>>42588930
The endings sucked and it had some of the worst episodes in the series. Simply put, the earlier seasons had more gems.

>>42588930
Not every late season episode is horrible. Just most are.

>>42588930
>Pinkie episode
>Good
No.

>>42588930
Blind worship of their mommy. The late seasons are just as good and its flaws aren't any worse.

>>42588989
No. Later seasons are objectively shit.
>b-but I-
Later seasons are objectively shit.

>>42588930
>Why do faustfags hate the later seasons again? This was peak pony.
early seasons are constantly good, late seasons are hit-or-miss
t. watch late seasons

>>42589006
Not really, s1 was horribly hit-or-miss. The writers didn't find a groove till a few seasons in.

>>42588930
I hate how Gilda was treated in her first episode. Pinkie was being a screeching annoying asswipe as usual and Dash suddenly gets mad at Gilda out of nowhere, the element of loyalty showing her unloyalty. No one was likeable in the episode other than Gilda.

>>42589038
>I can't believe Pinkie and Dash acted mean towards Gilda she dindu nuffin
The only way you could come up with this idea is if you didn't watch the episode at all and made a whole headcannon based on the Jackleapp song

>>42588930
later seasons are (mostly) a-shit

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>>42588930
Based griffbro.

>>42589038
I know it's you, Gilda.

>>42589003
ah bloo bloo

I just don't like a lot of the episodes.

>>42588930
Gilda X Pinkie OTP

It boosts the watchability of any episode they're in.

>>42588930
Cute frame

>>42588930
SEX WITH FEMALE CATBIRDS

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>>42589415
Imagine their purrs as you hold them close.

>>42589038
Nah Gilda was being an asshole for no reason, they all could have hung out together

>>42588930
the quality of the earlier seasons come down to two things 1. consistency, nearly every episode in season 1 and 2 are good or great bad episodes become more common the later you go into the series 2. whimsy, the early seasons specifically season 1 has a lot of charming things about it that get lost more and more the further you go into the series, like the horse noises, the subtler jokes and interactions, the simpler storylines etc
theres decent episodes all the way through the series

Season 5 isn’t late season, it’s an overall great season and the last one that any of the OG writers worked on ie the last one with decent writing

>>42589038
Pinkie was being a clingy weirdo, true, but >>42589496 what he said. Still, she was trying to force herself into the relationship between Gilda and Dash, who were trying to catch up after being separated for a long time.

Gilda was being a total jerk. She spent a lifetime being trained to meet kindness with, at best, dismissal. She was, in her mind, justified in her actions, but she was still being mean to a lot of ponies.

Rainbow Dash was being a total jerk. She didn't know when too far was too far. Pinkie Pie had to pull her away from pranking Fluttershy. At the party to try to bring Gilda back to their side, she couldn't stop herself from booby-trapping the whole party, heedless that her friend could be the one targeted.

In Griffon the Brush Off, all three of the main characters were in the wrong, for different reasons and in different ways.

The real problem was that Dash didn't know about any of Gilda being a bitch, she just cut her off for Gilda's quite frankly somewhat reasonable crash out at the party. It makes it seem more like she's cutting her off for saying her pranks were weak rather than for the way she was treating other ponies.
>>42589728
Yea, what you said. The entire party sequence is basically Rainbow pranking Gilda a bunch, then getting mad at Gilda when she reasonably assumes it's Pinkie Pie trying to fuck with her. It's so disconnected from everything else. Gilda thinks she's being targeted, blames who seems to be the most likely but ultimately wrong suspect, and Dash cuts her off for... being upset about being singled out?
GIlda WAS a bitch, but the episodes biggest shortcoming is that her actual acts of bitchiness ultimately didn't actually factor in to why Dash quit being friends with her.

>>42589787
I'm rewatching the sequence now. Pinkie accidentally leads her into the first prank, Dash intentionally sets up the second prank, Twilight accidentally sets up the third prank and the fourth prank isn't a prank at all, it's just her not trusting Pinkie Pie to help her play Pin The Tail On The Pony. So I don't really agree with your analysis, she basically just got unlucky and that's exactly what Rainbow Dash says to her at the end.

>>42589819
>Pinkie accidentally leads her into the first prank,
She asked for a hoof shake while wearing a buzzer, that isn't exactly incidental.
>Dash intentionally sets up the second prank
You agree here, so no response needed.
>Twilight accidentally sets up the third prank
But Gilda would have no way of knowing it's an accident, that's the thing. Overall, she was set up to half the pranks that happened to her, and some of those set ups were absolutely intentional, so Rainbow saying 'those pranks weren't all meant for you' is a pretty weak response. When 5/8 pranks were ones that were explicitly for you, that doesn't really make her feelings of being singled out all that off.
But besides that, what you brought up doesn't really have anything to do with what I said. Gilda thought she was being singled out, and based on the events that were transpiring, that wasn't an entirely unreasonable conclusion for her to reach, especially since in some cases she verifiably was. So her getting mad about it isn't really that unjustifiable, especially when Rainbow herself has reacted similarly when she's been on the receiving end in other contexts. So Rainbow coming down so hard on Gilda for being mad about feeling singled out still isn't a good look on her.

>>42589844
Oh right, I skipped over the buzzer. I was talking about part one of the second prank, Pinkie doesn't know those lemon treats are spicy.
And ultimately Gilda's complaint isn't just that she's being singled out. She clearly is angry at Pinkie Pie for her perceived actions, yes, but she's very clearly directing her anger at everyone at the party because they're all equally responsible for the lameness of said party. The only one who gets amnesty is Rainbow Dash because Gilda considers her separate from all of her friends, she's allowed to be cool even if this party proves all the others are pathetic losers. That's the part that Rainbow Dash is actually getting angry at, at least in my interpretation.

>>42588930
>>42589038
>>42588989

Thanks for announcing you're a retard, OP. I will filter you now.

I will probably put you on a watchlist too in case you do any crimes in the future.

>>42590025
My Little Pony?

>>42590025
why are you so mad

>>42589871
If they had shown Pinkie shaking hooves with everypony as they came in, it would have exculpated her on that front.
And she might not have noticed the treats were spicy, even if she ate one. She's been shown to be able to guzzle hot sauce as if it were root beer.

It's Dash that didn't warn her friend of the pranks in any way, letting her already-distraught friend stumble into them.

Again, this ending was a trainwreck. They all ended up in the wrong.

>>42589009
Name 3 bad season 1 episodes

>>42591099
Swarm of the Century, A Dog and Pony Show, The Ticket Master

>>42591099
The Show Stoppers, Stare Master, Owl's Well That Ends Well.

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>>42591120
A dog and pony show was gold, the funniest episode of Season 1.

>>42591099
Bridle Gossip, ponies being racist over a zebra that looks like them more than griffons, cows, and mules. Twilight was also massively OOC.

Over a Barrel, colonialism is awwwwwright, america dindu nuffin.

Feeling Pinkie Keen. The scientific method is about testing things you don't fully understand, but Twilight was being an OOC retard again. The entire religion debate is SHIT by the way because Pinkie's "miracles" happen in reality therefore it can be studied.

>>42591197
It was funny because if it was anywhere close to being real life the diamond dogs would just bitch slap her whenever she whined. Then the episode tried to say she was a powerful woman just because she is an annoying Karen. This was one of those so bad it's good episodes like the premiere, the writers had zero self awareness for this episode.

>>42591209
It showcased Rarity's intellect greatly. She managed to manipulate her captors into serving her, it was brilliant.

>>42591218
>Rarity's intellect
Rarity has been a whiny bitch since getting kidnapped. Then she realizes that her whining makes dogs' heads hurt, so she continues being a whiny bitch on purpose. There's even a moment when she turns dogs against each other, but instead of going with that, she throws a temper tantrum after being called a donkey/ugly and frees herself because the dogs want her gone.

>>42591099
if we, as a collective, laid down on the copium as to see how faust jumped the shark all the way back to the literal SECOND episode of SEASON 1 when she completely undermined nightmare moon's backstory and twilight's conflict of making friends in just a single fucking anime flashback powerup asspull that was neither earned, properly setup nor build up in the slightlest but instead just given to her by the writers because she happened to notice the strangers she just met being useful to her cause and thus, realizing"huh, having friends can be useful, never before in my whole life did I never stop to make that connection despite being characterized as the autistic nerd".

problem?
Nightmare Moon's struggle with being overshadowed by Celestia?
Boom, gone! She was just being a whiny bitch that needed some rainbow tasting spanking to be set back on the right place.

problem?
Twilight's inflated ego and lack of social skills being the very things keeping her from making friends?
Boom, gone! Friends just... come to her...willingly! She is actually flawless and just needed to learn how friends can be useful.

problem?
Celestia's failure with her sister being the cataclysm to her corruption and the error of the past that had to be corrected somehow if Celestia were to ever hope to get things back to normalcy with her sister?
Boom! Gone! Thanks to floaty magic rocks going YEEE, Luna gets back with Celestia just fine, in fact, it's Luna who feels any kind of guilt or remorse for her past, as if she even had the opportunity to do anything wrong before being sentenced a 1000 years on the moon with no trial.

They don't even attempt to make a connection between the main conflict and the protagonists, Twilight just wants to stop Nightmare Moon because hurr durr she is evil and eternal nights are bad, that's it! Nothing about that motivation relates to making friends or learning about friendship. What about Nightmare Moon's backstory relates to Twilight in any way? There's nothing! It's just generic evil backstory for generic evil villain that generic protagonist must defeat by overcoming their generic problem and save the day.

The show only shines in the isolation of single episodes of contained narratives because it couldn't really go beyond that, it was, in fact, made primarily to sell toys and done so in a restrictive budget reflective of this fact.

Lauren Faust did not revolutionize girl's media, she just struck gold in a time where there wasn't much competition and internet hype culture was up for grabs, all she really had to do was make a cute show with cute ponies in wholesome moments with nothing too annoying to scare the adults away and she would've won!
Had she done nothing beyond the bare minimum of this formula, the results wouldn'tve differed.

If you pay close attention, you would realize just how unremarkable the show is at everything else it tries, including comedy. It's a show made to be enjoyed, not really thought about.

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Gilda's fat ass on my face.

>inb4 /ggf/ spammer reply
Die in a fire you retarded unfunny piece of shit.

>>42591209
>>42591372
>Rarity acts like a bitch
>dogs fall in line
It does make a certain kind of sense.

>>42591493
She's so hot... I need a Gilda+Gallus threesome

>>42591731
Sounds great until he calls dibs on the back and you've gotta put your dick in a beak.

>>42588930
S5 is fine, S6 onwards is where things really start going downhill.

>>42591751
>Gallus wouldn't want to be in the middle
Implausible.

>>42588935
Nah. the Faustchud era had some shitty episode for example the episode where Gilda shows up her only purpose was to be the necessary bully she didnt had to much character development thankfully Amy Keating Rogers fixed what Fust ruined

>>42588939
Even the bad episodes are enjoyable. G% on the other hand...

>>42589271
In the end Gilda has her revenge killing pinkie pink

>>42589728
The problem is Gilda didnt had any other friends besides Rainbow she was just like Fluttershy when she first met her maybe that's why she was jealous of Pinkie since she wanted to hang out only with Rainbow

>>42591800
She didn't need development. She was there to teach 5 year olds that they don't have to put up with a friend if they're being a bitch.

>>42591720
KEK

>>42589489
What does Gilda's plummage smell like?

>>42591493
Dont let her sit on your face her butt is stinky 0c0

>>42591822
>they don't have to put up with a friend if they're being a bitch.
Unless their name is Rainbow Dash, I guess. She's allowed to be a bitch.

>>42588930
Blarg

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>>42591995
Damn right.

>>42592752
Tf is this from?

>>42592758
Judging by the dialogue, it's from some parallel universe where everything is backward.

>>42591839
Autumn leaves, sweat and a hint of cinnamon.

>>42589844
To be honest, Rainbow Dash, out of ALL of the Mane Six, seems to be the one who is constantly at odds with her own element.

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>>42592897
>Dash doesn't act that loyal
Must be a day that ends in Y.
It's always been a pretty weak case to be fair. Even the fan wiki gives a grand total of 4 examples of her loyalty, and one of those examples is about her abandoning her friends, so actually it's only 3. People complain about Rarity not being generous enough, or Applejack not being brutally honest enough, but Dash's track record is absolutely abysmal if you don't hold countless double standards for her.

ggf thread when

>>42593519
They will never sustain again because you keep spamming retarded annoying shit in them.

>>42593519
>ggf thread
nobody post any shit on it, even the beanless tard left

>>42591099
impossible, there's only two, Swarm of the Century and Owl's Well That Ends Well.
>>42591120
>>42591146
you have horrendous tastes except for the one hit each of you got
>>42591198
those are just mid, which means they'd have been top 5 in later seasons
>still seething over feeling pinkie keen
it really never gets old lmao

>>42591731
https://u.pone.rs/yyytnory.png

>>42593519
Despite what EaW might tell you, not enough griff content to sustain a general. Hell, might not have enough stuff in most generals, there's new artists posting in the Pinkie general and nobody responding.

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>>42593973
Nice

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>>42593973
we are in the waning years of our era, my fren
have been for a long while now
those here still out of habit cant help but endure in spite of it all
at least thats what i tell myself

>>42593934
A Dog and Pony Show is wasted potential that's only funny beacuse of how bad it is (dogs should rap just like Faust wanted)

>>42593934
>feeling pinkie keen
>Twilight learns alternative ways of knowing based on lived experience are valid and objective facts and logic aren't real lmao
FPK apologists deserve their postmodern shitscape.

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>>42593991
>we are in the waning years of our era, my fren
As pessimistic as I am about the world, I don't believe that. I think we're just in the lull between great things. One must only look at the state of all the other fandoms to know how good we continue to have it.

The greatness we were promised, the greatness we deserve, is nearly here. What is an anathema and poison to the rotted out husk of the old growth, and vilified by the malevolently ignorant masses, will be what delivers us to paradise.

>>42594001
>if my holy basedence can't explain it it doesn't exist
the objective facts are: pinkie senses are able to predict certain occurrences with great accuracy. just because you don't "know" the mechanism of action does not mean you should not "believe" in those facts

>>42594063
>great accuracy
Pinkie Sense is by design vague, inexplicable, and against reason:
>Oh, my fortunetelling has nothing to do with my Pinkie Sense, silly. It's only good for vague and immediate events.
That's why you have to stop thinking and just believe.

>>42594074
what's vague about a beautiful rainbow or having to look out before opening doors?
>That's why you have to stop thinking and just believe.
you don't strictly have to, but it's perfectly acceptable if you've exhausted your theories and haven't found an explanation. a lot of real science that's never published is exactly that.

>>42594086
Twilight learns about believing in vague, inexplicable things
>Twilight Sparkle: I am happy to report that I now realize there are wonderful things in this world you just can't explain, but that doesn't necessarily make them any less true. It just means /you have to choose to believe in them/, and sometimes it takes a friend to show you the way.
and Faust herself came out to say the episode has a supernatural message. This is not about real science vs fake science, it's about the writers' New Age beliefs.

>>42594105
vague no, inexplicable yes but let's not quibble about minor things. what exactly do you think is wrong with that quote?
>there are wonderful things in this world you just can't explain, but that doesn't necessarily make them any less true
this is factually true
>It just means /you have to choose to believe in them/
I guess you could object to that, but what does it mean to not believe in pinkie senses? to deny objective reality.
>and sometimes it takes a friend to show you the way.
that's how it happened in the episode so not really controversial either
>and Faust herself came out to say
okay and why should I care about that? Like I wouldn't even care if the episode was explicit about that, but it isn't.

>>42594122
>what does it mean to not believe in pinkie senses?
It means you have to take a leap of faith and risk dying on spiky rocks, DYEWTS? If you're interpreting an episode based on personal vibes and not on the writers' intentions that's fine by me, but I'm not sure what your point is.

>>42594129
>It means you have to take a leap of faith and risk dying on spiky rocks
so you agree it's a dumb idea to not believe in them? not sure where you're going with this
>If you're interpreting an episode based on personal vibes and not on the writers' intentions that's fine by me, but I'm not sure what your point is.
I interpret all episodes based on what's in the episode like a normal person

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>>42589728
>>42589038
This episode really fucking annoys me.
Yes. Pinkie was being an annoying weirdo.
Yes. You can infer that Pinkie being clingy is what caused Gilda to start being so aggro.
Yes. You can also infer that maybe Gilda is just like that regardless of Pinkies' actions.

Pinkie sees Gilda being a jerk to people and her solution was to throw her a party to make her feel welcome. While it is possible that Gilda would still not reciprocate, Pinkie still showed friendship towards a person who may not have seemed to deserve it in her eyes and eventually there would have to be a point where Gilda realizes Pinkie is being genuinely albeit corny but the only way to deny that she's at least trying would be to completely ignore her attempts.

That's a friendship tactic they would TOTALLY use in later seasons. It only goes wrong because Rainbow Dash starts pranking Gilda and doesn't make it obvious that her friend is doing it to her. So Gilda crashes out and yells at Pinkie assuming she's trying to drive her away.

Rainbow Dash hears this outburst and instead of going "No Gilda I did the pranks and you're mistaken. Pinkie has only been kind to you."

She goes "Actually I did the pranks but I thought you liked pranks? What's wrong can't handle the bantz? If you don't liked being pranked by my friends then maybe you don't deserve to be mine."

Even if we do get a birds eye view of the situation that line of thinking is so fucked. Gilda does not know your friends that you've known for basically 6 or so days. Expecting her to warm up this fast is unrealistic.

>>42594176
>so you agree it's a dumb idea to not believe in them?
Suppose you have to choose to eat either shit or puke, ehat would you do? I hate to break up your autism, but hypothetical dichotomies aren't real.
>like a normal person
The fuck are you here for then?

>>42593973
Holy unf

>>42593920
I'm still here and I hate beans

>>42593973
>https://u.pone.rs/yyytnory.png
Replace Phallus with Gabriella or Greta

>>42594653
Hope you'll die in real life. Our world would turn noticeably better. Not shitposting, completely genuine.

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It's all so tiring.

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>>42588930
>see positive thread
>open it up
>it's full of gilda dindus and s1 bashing

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>>42591387
Careful, dangerous levels of based here!

Btw Faust in fact revolutionized at least MLP franchise with creating actually good and easy to animate designs, she is in that regard pretty close to Vivzie, both have poor writing (ofc Faust still miles better), but both spawned huge manchild fanbase due to their admitedly good designs.

>>42591387
>erm it was never really that good
So every newfag and contrarian has been saying for the past 15 years. Yawn.
>>42594813
>vivzie
>good designs
bait used to be believable.

>>42591099
Fall Weather Friends, Swarm of the Century, Boast Busters.

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>>42594981
>FWF
>bad

>>42595020
Yes. It's one of the worst Dash episodes and one of her most insufferable appearances. It's shit for the same reasons NCC is shit, and the only reasons anyone gives it a pass is because it's a season 1 episode. I've never seen anyone give substantial reasons on what makes this episode "good" beyond "muh cozy fall vibes".

>>42589038
This.
Gilda thought that pinkie is humiliating her and steal her only friend while being in a abuseive hatefull enviroment.
Idk why lily orchard sees Gilda as toxic when she is just tragic and its not like Gilda did anything bad to RD.
She just didnt like pinkie.

>>42594867
>Season 1 is perfect, and everyone who says otherwise is a newfag or contrarian.

>>42591146
>Hates peak song episode
McCarthy and Haber called you.
They need their shoes clean

>>42595060
>Yes i do like having all charm and humkr sucked out for mid cartoon shit.

>>42595070
>Yes, I can't love and enjoy my favorite show because someone said it's overrated.
Anon, The show was loved for the passion that Lauren Faust put into it and we could feel it and also because it had sexy mares but not beacuse it had deep storytelling or great worldbulding.

>>42595118
You're defending the long winded faggot that can't even say the comedy was good, at that point you're lost.
>sexy mares
A cute art style. Stop making it sound like we only liked it for the fetishes most of us developed after the fact. The world building was great initially, even some later ideas. Just because it's squandered potential now doesn't mean it never had anything going for it.

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Innocence.

>>42595179
Comedy worked half the time, and mostly because of unintended bad writing (see A Dog and Pony Show) or still frames.
Yes, I should say cute art style.
Worldbuilding was okay initially—nothing revolutionary or exceptional, just a classic medieval/Tolkien setting-Celestia left elements of harmony in old castle only so adventure epsiode could happen.

>>42594981
I agree with fall weather friends Rainbow and Applejack were being annoying in that episode I t

>>42594678
several anons think season 1 is overrated and boring most fans think season 4 is better than season 1hell even season 9 is better than 1 and 2

>>42594667
Thats not nice TcT

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>>42594867
E621 numbers beg to differ. Even if 1% of her designs got traction it still abysmally more than 99% of any other animation.

>>42595282
Anons who think that season 1 is overrated and boring are mostly correct.
Fans who think that season 4 is better than season 1 are wrong.
"people" who think that season 9 is better than season 1 or 2 are retarted.

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>>42595268
I don't think Applejack is that bad, she was pretty reasonable, it's just Rainbow who drags it down. She spends the entire episode being an insufferable cunt and both the narrative and in universe characters don't care at all. She cheats and wins, and then nobody cares about the cheating until Applejack starts doing it back, at which point they're "both in the wrong". No, fuck that. You can't just give one character a free pass for half the episode and then only punish it once the other party starts reciprocating the way they're treated. Applejack is basically being punished for Dash being a shitty friend. It's one of the clearest example of Faust's favoritism for Dash in season 1.

>>42595316
Yeah, and Applejack was the first and only to apologize-she still shouldn't try to cheat and should instead be bigger than that.

>>42595248
>just a classic medieval/Tolkien setting
what?

>>42595333
Sadly, it seems like nothing can be good or original if it's vaguely similar to something that has been done before. Worldbuilding has to be some zany science fiction concept from a book series only hipsters know about. Simpsons did it, Simpsons did it.

>>42595248
>just a classic medieval/Tolkien setting
With electric lights, steam trains, and cameras.

You're either a retard, or you're trolling.

>>42595329
>shouldn't try to cheat and should instead be bigger than that.
But when "bigger than that" means letting Rainbow get away with it, again, and losing, again, and nobody else caring about Rainbow cheating, again, then why exactly should she be "bigger than that"? If cheating isn't a big deal when Rainbow does it, then it should be fine when she does it too.
Applejack DID try to be bigger than that, for the entire first half of the episode. All it got her was loss, and Rainbow turning around and doing it again the first chance she got even after Applejack gave her the benefit of the doubt. Being bigger did nothing for her.

>>42595333
>>42595353
The World of Equestria was clearly inspired by classic medieval fairy tales and Tolkien, so you can expect and predict most of the things in Equestria based on that knowledge. Even then, worldbuilding served the episodes, so something existed just because. In later seasons, when writers ran out of ideas, they tried to expand this world to its logical conclusions, but that just didn't worked.

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>>42595382
It was "Turn of the Century (1880-1920), but magical ponies". S2E8 had a hydroelectric dam. It's not Tolkien. Not everything with magic is a copy of Lord of the Rings.

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>>42595382
What? Because it's got magic and monsters in it? Have you read LOTR? Hell, have you even watched the movies?

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>yep those classic seasons which created the entire fandom were always the worst my fellow channers

>>42595435
We are talking about season 1 anon.

>>42595442
classic medival fairy tale beacuse magic and monsters and Tolkien beacuse of conflict between ultimate good and ultimate evil.

>>42595571
No one is saying first seasons are the worst, retard. First seasons are objectively the best, but they are not perfect masterpieces of TV media.

>>42595571
I honestly like all nine seasons. Fight me.

>>42595617
nta but the theme of medieval fairy tale hadn't even been clearly defined during the time that Tolkien was writing The Hobbit, Lotr, Silmarillion etc. because what he wrote was practically the first of its kind. To say his works are the classic setting for medieval is a bit more of an understatement, more like the foundation, the basics even. On a further note though, Faust did mention that Canterlot was clearly based off of Minas Tirith from Lotr, but that's the only comparison to Tolkien I can think off the top of my head

>conflict between ultimate good and ultimate evil
That's always been a reoccuring theme in practically every single story ever told, it finds its way into the narrative whether the author or readers like it or not. It's like a given cliche that doesn't even need to be specified

>>42595642
based.

>>42591099
bridle gossip, swarm of the century, a bird in the hoof.
how has no one said a bird in the hoof yet?

>>42595719
>how has no one said a bird in the hoof yet?
Why?
I love this episode beacuse of yakety sax in the backround, it's so nostalgic that i can't help but smile when i hear it.

>>42595719
>how has no one said a bird in the hoof yet?
It's kind of forgettable desu. I think that's the season 1 episode I have the hardest time recalling the events of.

>>42595744
>The first episode with Trollestia

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>>42595744
>a bird in the hoof
>forgettable

What the actual FUCK am I reading

>>42595764
It's the one with Fluttershy taking care of the phoenix, right?

>>42595680
Tolkien fanboys are worse than furries. Fantasy existed before Tolkien. Dragons, Beowulf, and Arthurian legends existed before Tolkien. He's no more the first of his kind than Gygax or Robert E. Howard were when it came to laying the groundwork for modern fantasy.

>>42595782
Don't forget Michael Mooreock, who's probably overall nearly equal in impact with Tolkien despite significantly less name recognition. Dark Fantasy as a genre, along with half the tropes you typically find in them, wouldn't be a thing if not for him.

>>42595608
>S1E1
electric lights
>S1E3
spandex body suits
cameras
>S1E4
refrigerators
bags of potato chips
>S1E21
player piano

>>42595782
>Tolkien fanboys are worse than furries.
Harsh but true.

>>42595744
that's because it barely has any events.

>>42595854
I know that Equestria isn't consistent world anon.

>>42595884
>Anything that supports your point and disproves my point is a plot hole.

>>42595892
>>Anything that supports your point and disproves my point is a plot hole.
Yes

>>42593973
>not enough griff content to sustain a general
That's completely false, when griffon, ggf or some random particular griff threads still cares to someone, there's a lot of content to enjoy, usually short greentexts or drawings, even some threads reached to bump limit back then.
The problem is, in recent years idk where are everyone because nobody post nothing, neither the same shit we're seen is posted. When someone makes a griffon general thread, that shit likes to stand on page 10 and dies in five days at much. Truly the decadence of catbirds...

>>42595910
It's better posting ggfs than posting nothing

>>42595909
>all seasons
>post-season-6-decanonizers
>S1-S3 Purists (Faustians)
>S1 Purists
>S1E1-opening-narration-only Purists [you are here]
>???

Is this that "death of the author" stuff that the literary critics keep talking about?

>>42588930
True

>>42596641
I'm more of show bible purist, anything beyond that is not canon.

>>42596536
That's cute.