What was it about FiM that brought in so many creative people? ESPECIALLY on the music side. I can't think of really any fandom as devoted to their interest as we are. Not to say they don't get fan songs and the like, but they lack the passion. You can just flat out tell that so many (especially modern) fandom musicians are grifters. They don't use their interest as a canvas like our musicians do. Of course, this isn't the case for every pony musician, but still.I've been listening to Time Baby a lot these past couple of days. I think they were quite underrated as far as pony musicians go. Really sad they nuked their channel. I love the melancholy the songs give me. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPNHW5PMeq8
>>42618335i like the horsies, they make me smil
>>42618428Same, anon.
>>42618335You miss something.It didn't just draw in creative people, it drew in people, gave them passion, and made them creative.
>>42618335>ESPECIALLY on the music side>dubstepslop
>>42618700>It didn't just draw in creative people, it drew in people, gave them passion, and made them creative.yeah nah, you're either born creative or not
>>42618805>he's still doomposting
>earnest show with a semi-utopian setting coming into popularity in the wake of the financial crash>lots of questions left unanswered especially in the early seasons, leading to room for lots of speculation and filling in by fans>4chan was at its peak of promoting original content>the standards for fan art in general skyrocketed in the early 2010sLots of things lined up to have the fandom be the way it is.
>>42618335It's because creative people tend to be emotional weirdos, and emotional weirdos tend to be gay and trans, and gay and trans like gay shit like unicorns and rainbows.
>>42618807You can't dispute him. He's right.
>>42618805Then it unlocked their unused creativity you assclown.
>>42618703>this isn't the case for every pony musiciandumbass nigger.
>>42618872He's whatever you believe he is. You believe him, and it stops you from creating. I do not believe him, and create anyway.
>>42618703Old pony electronic music is soulful and nothing anyone can say will convince me otherwise
>>42618997It was a product of a different time. Whatever mindset people had for creating for a nascent fandom is something that can't really come back. While things were always created for clout, it's even more so now, and you can see it when sloppa is pumped out for views and likes. The old internet was better.
>>42618993Doing anything creative without talent is a waste of time and effort if your aim is to actually be good at something.
>>42619074Talent only shows up when you stop believing it's something you have to be born with.Usually, that belief is something you're taught. An eight year old that never picked up that belief will be a better artist at 14 than the 30 year olds on this board that believe you have to be born with skill or not.
pinkie says "when i was a little filly and the sun was going doooooooowwwwnnn" and then people want to make pony musicthat's just how it is
>>42619122>just believe in yourself bro (read: be delusional)Luck is the only thing that matters and talent is just luck at the end of the day.If you want to make something good, you need talent. No amount of wishful thinking and stubborness can overcome a fundamental lack of talent.
>>42619661Maybe if you spent more time in a DAW instead of doomposting here, you'd have talent. You only get good at the things you do, that's why you're such a great fucking doomposter, anon.
>>42619809Why are some artists obviously better than others? The bad ones are just lazy?
>>42619809You're only good at the things you were born to be good at.There's no overcoming a lack of talent. If you could, I wouldn't be here posting about it.
>>42620171How long did you spend learning art, and how good did you expect to be?
>>42620316>How long did you spend learning artFar longer than I should have. I was deluded into believing I could be something more.I spent too much time effort and money on a lie.>how good did you expect to be?I didn't have any expectations, just delusions based on lies and stubbornness on my part.
>>42620328Sounds like you went to art school. Post some of your art, I'm sure you learned something with that amount of effort.
>>42620388>art schoolI was delusional, not stupid.
>>42618335I fucking love Time Baby, thanks for reminding me of them. What you posted is probably my favorite of theirs, but honestly theyre all so good.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jR8l2ge5RtgI know for myself when I first found the show, I was overwhelmed with the desire and enormous urge to create and to give back. The show almost forces you to make something to celebrate it.Some circumstances changed when I was making some things, and I havent been able to go back to things yet, but Im determined to develop the skills necessary to make what I'd love to.
>>42619973>>42620328Mindset matters more than anything. Most artists are not introspective enough to take a look at themselves and ask why they really do anything. Many have inflated egos, create too much of what they think others want to see, or they have too much pride, and refuse to cover songs because they want to put their own ideas first before admitting they need to learn from others, they think music is about creating from imagination. The language you speak didn't work that way and no artform does either. Everyone had to learn from someone else.NOBODY is born with talent. Everything you know how to do came from someone before you. All that matters is whether or not you're willing to learn from them. Your favorite musicians had their own influences, those people had their own influences, those people had their own influences, and so on. It is a cycle as old as the human race. We've only gotten as far as we have because of the trillions of man hours spent learning from experience, and passing that knowledge on to successive generations. And if you learn enough from your favorite influences, one day, (You) could be someone's influence too. (You) get to be part of the cycle, the same way random pony musicians have now influenced me. But most importantly, you have to know that it is a process that rewards being able to make connections with others instead of thinking you're some great Chad because you had all the talent inside you, you never needed anyone else. This will never be true, because humans just don't work like that. It is impossible for you to go a day in your life without having yours shaped by something another person did. Whether that's your house, your car, the internet, pony, or even this site. People shape the lives of other people.You gotta learn from the songs that exist before you can write your own. Nobody's born knowing anything. The environment you're in, the people in your life, and your own experiences shape your mindset. Some people, namely kids, are happy to copy from others, which is a form of humility. Others are too arrogant or prideful to even think about referencing or copy others, willing to arrive at the conclusion that they have no talent before ever admitting that they need to start by copying and learning from what's there. Creativity is about reshaping what exists.But I don't even know why I'm telling you this. You know what they say about leading a mare to water. Clearly you're stuck in your ways. Hopefully some lurker gets something out of this if you don't want to.
>>42620881>NOBODY is born with talentand other hilarious jokes to tell yourself.If you don't have talent, you either live a life of delusion or you realize the truth and quit while you're ahead to save yourself the headache.If you don't have the talent, you can't make the competent art or music or whatever the fuck it is you want to make.These lies that "you can be whatever you set your mind to" is just bullshit that people peddle to feel better about themselves.
>>42620968>he's still doing itLook at me writing walls of text on an anonymous pony imageboard. Maybe I care a little too much. At some point even I have to admit you just can't get through to everyone.Or hey, maybe you're just shitposting and were able to get me to take the bait, so at least you have a talent for that.
>>42621004>maybe you're just shitposting and were able to get me to take the baitOf course I was you fucking slow nigger.
>>42621004>someone is disagreeing with me online? It HAS to be bait.Nuh uh. Talent is a real thing. If it wasn't, I wouldn't be here. I'd be out there making the things I want to make.>42621028>so bored he has to pretend to be other people onlineGo come up with some actual bait yourself if you want attention
>>42620968I'm genuinely sorry you believe this. It's the sign of someone who's given up after failing one too many times.I hope I never become like you.
>>42621053You will. Just a matter of time. Nobody with talent posts here, that's why you're here.
>>42621053>I'm genuinely sorryDon't be. I'd rather live miserably facing a horrible truth than burn myself out chasing a beautiful, but ultimately hollow lie.I wish I could get back all the time I wasted trying to be something I wasn't, and I wish I was smart enough to realize I was being peddled a lie in the form of a dream.>I hope I never become like you.I hope you do.
>>42621128>>42621130kek>you willnah>I hope you doThen you're a cruel person, plain and simple. Hope and happiness are actions you wield in defense against despair, not things that you acquire and possess from that point forward. They take active effort and constant maintenance. Just because you've given up and become too lazy to put forth that effort doesn't mean I am or ever necessarily will be.I pity you both.
>>42621140You're unbearably naive.
>>42621161ah yes, quote a character who's supposed to be the "cynical realist" of the story, that will definitely make you seem like you're intelligent.
>>42618805 >born creative or notIts a skill you learn faggot.
>>42621168can confirm, used to suck at art, practiced, now I don't suck. It's not magic, people.
>>42621166>ah yescan't take you seriously with that.also I had to look up what you said I quoted. can't believe that's in there. admitting to watching capeshit isn't doing your argument any favors.
>>42621176Lmao it wasn't supposed to be serious, genius. I stopped taking you seriously a long time ago.
>>42618335>OP makes a thread celebrating the creative wonders of the fandom>Thread devolves into a couple of pathetic losers trying to convince everyone else that they're also pathetic losers. Would y'all just go away? Nobody cares about you.
>>42621140Why shouldn't I be cruel?
>>42621180>y'allTwitter is down the hall and to the left
>>42621182The mind that asks this question is already lost. Unironically neck yourself, you'll genuinely be doing the world a favor. We have enough psychopaths already.
>>42621186Oh woe is me! I have made an unrecoverable error! My entire point is moot now because I happen to live in the south!Fuck yourself in the face with a steak knife moron.
Welp this thread is a fucking dumpster fire. Bye.
>>42621187>Unironically neck yourself, you'll genuinely be doing the world a favorSaying "no u" is objectively correct in this case, dumb faggot
have some pony before I leave you fucking worthless sacks of shit to your misery
>>42621187Still waiting for an answer.>>42621190Simmer down cowboy. Your face is starting to match your neck.
shift + click
>>42621197Don't let the door hit you on the way out
>>42621180It's posing a question more than celebrating anything. Since the answer is tranny autism (I'm not using buzzwords, Time Baby and most artists are trans), it would of course be opposed by equally autistic crabs in a bucket. The fandom is autistic.
>>42621475>Time Baby and most artists are transwhy is this always the case
>>42618335clop
I'll always appreciate the Blossomforth song they didhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Icim8idij6Y
>>42618335Maybe the fact that the show had a decent composer to begin with. Beyond that I wonder if the same factor that brought so many talented video artists into the community played any role. The fact that YouTube had a very active creative community at the time was crucial in supporting a social environment in which video artists collaborated and exchanged ideas. I'm wondering if the same environment encouraged and nurtured the musical artists as YouTube was again one of the main venues in which their music was published and accessed.
>>42618335pony booty
>>42623014More shoegaze https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tV2_frQh1QA
>>42618335It was a relatively intelligent cartoon.
>>42618700Maybe not necessarily "made them creative", but there was definitely a focus on creating things. It's the drive to create that was very infectious for some.
>>42618700Yeah I mean you're right, my wording wasn't the best but I kind of felt like I implied that in my post. Ponies are great at drawing out creativity in people.>>42620565Hell yeah!!! I think Reflections of a Sunset and Blossom are probably their best songs, but I also love all of their stuff.>>42624921Ohh fuck yes this one rocks, I was reminded of it when it played on horse radio and that's what sent me back to listen to some Time Baby.
>>42620881>>42621168It is, but some people have an advantage of learning faster than others. It takes few lessons for some to make decent progress, and some have to practice years to achieve same results. Natural talent is still a thing.