AI Art Thread #69: Nice Edition▶WARNING>By posting in these threads, you recognize that AI generation is a valid artistic process.Backends:>https://github.com/LykosAI/StabilityMatrixThis is more of a one-click manager that you can install / run the other backends though. Easiest by far. Recommended to download Forge through it and use its built-in Civitai browser to download models with.For models not through the in-built downloader just download and drop them in Stability_Matrix\Data\Models\* (lora folder if a lora, TextualInversion if embedding, stablediffusion if checkpoint...)>reForgehttps://github.com/Panchovix/stable-diffusion-webui-reForgeI would recommend installing this through Stability Matrix.>ComfyUIhttps://github.com/comfyanonymous/ComfyUI?tab=readme-ov-file#installingHas a learning curve but is extremely customizable and usually has the latest methods / papers implemented first.>"But I don't have a decent GPU"NovelAI also does great pony: https://novelai.netYou could also use a service like civitai.Models:>Pony Diffusion V6 XLhttps://civitai.com/models/257749/pony-diffusion-v6-xl?modelVersionId=290740>NoobAI-XL Great new alternative. Is closer than novelai than anything else. Really diverse yet coherent positioning / styles, knows artist tags.https://civitai.com/models/833294/noobai-xl-nai-xl>ZoinksNoob, a popular new model built off ChromaXL Mix, which itself was built off of NoobAI. Very, very close to NovelAI and arguably better at many things, it does ponies very well and has much less of a "burnt-in" default style than something like Pony Diffusion V6 does.https://huggingface.co/zatochu/ZoinksNoob>Useful artist style LoRA:https://civitai.com/models/317578/pdv6xl-artist-tags?modelVersionId=356175>LoRAs by /mlp/:https://rentry.org/ponyxl_loras>LoRAs by /h and other useful info:https://rentry.org/ponyxl_loras_n_stuff>How to make your own LoRA:https://rentry.org/59xed3https://civitai.com/articles/91/how-to-correctly-obtain-images-for-a-datasethttps://civitai.com/articles/3522/vaIstrixs-crash-course-guide-to-lora-and-lycoris-traininghttps://civitai.com/articles/4100/how-to-create-a-style-lycoris-for-ponyxl-on-low-vram-locally>Prompt tips for new users:Grab an image you like the style of from the desired model's civitai's site and drop it onto the PNG info tab in SD, you can then click send to text to image to reuse its generation info for your own images. Change the seed so you do not get just the same image. Use tags from e621 and natural language.>No, AI art is NOT stealing.Here, all the usual misinfo already addressed in one easy place for your viewing displeasure:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SVcsDDABEkMhttps://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1564878372185989120.htmlFor the love of Celestia, DO NOT FEED THE TROLLS, hide their posts instead.>Previous Thread>>42566653>Past Threadshttps://desuarchive.org/mlp/search/text/%22ai%20art%20thread%22/type/op/
>>42639894Wouldn't you drink her moon juices?
>>42639907What do they taste like?
>>42639907Yes.>>42640039Blueberry milk. It has a secret ingredient.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Adcl7nXWuU>put image in, get vidya outOh boy, while the stuff shown here is janky as fuck, it still appears better than that Doom/Minecraft ai demo from last year. Now just imagine when they optimize the shit out of it so it could be usable on basic 8 VRAM GPUs.
It's spooky month.
>>42640204>that neckShe's built like a watchtower.
>>42639894>AI is a valid artistic processLol. You are not an artist having a computer generate an image from text. You cannot even copyright AI artwork as it has no authenticity and is not an original creation. Get over yourselves AI sloppers
The bone mare is here for your bones!
Could I request a pic of poni(es) standing in middle of pumpkin field at midnight, with the spooky forest in the background?
How many tries does it take to generate a video with Wan using img2vid? I want to try it, but I kind of don't want to spend thousands of buzz on videos that end up completely wrong. Making anthro porn btw, so pony anatomy shouldn't be an issue.
>>42639894Any chance one of you fine proompters might be willing to gen an image like OP pic, just with Luna happily selling her bottles of liquid shadow/darkness and moon juice?>>42640381>"Now, you wouldn't mind parting with some of your blood would ya', sugarcube. 'Ah reckon you won't miss it much.">NMM bone armorI love it!
>>42640838Whatever you say, meatie.
Has anyone tried Pony V7 yet?
>>42640867>How many tries does it take to generate a video with Wan using img2vid?I'd say 2-3, but I'm not sure it'll let you include nudity.
>>42640381Throw her an apple. That should distract her.
>>42641236We need more photorealistic ponies & humanized/EQG ponies. The one thing that truly can't be done without AI help.
>>42641571Not yet, have you? I was waiting to see if it would be released publicly.
>>42641727>more photorealistic poniesYeah.>& humanized/EQGNo.
>>42641571*crickets*
>>42640039Salmiakki Koskenkorva
>>42642172Context?
>>42641236What prompt do you use to make this?
>>42641615According to the Civitai doc, the 2.1 version runs in-house and shouldn't be filtered.
>>42640838>posted in the threadThank you for recognizing that AI generation is a valid artistic process.>>42641236Is the creepiness intentional? I would not want to have sex with this Applejack.
>>42642483It's a little uncanny valley, probably even more when it's moving (see last thread's Loira). Would still bang though.
What e621 tag do I need to use to gen this kind of face?https://twibooru.org/3184160
>>42642570"naughty face"?https://e621.net/wiki_pages/7855
>>42642570ahegao
>>42642585Oh that one might work, I knew the boorus had that tag but I didn't know e621 had it too. Thanks for the tip!>>42642591No, ahegao is different, usually has eyes rolling up and a smile rather than a grin/smirk.
>>42642633To get the specific expression in your example, you could try either "naughty face" or "bedroom eyes", together with "blush, raised eyebrow, open mouth". Maybe even "looking pleasured", since that has 264k hits.
>>42642675Yeah, I just tried with "blush", "tongue out" and "naughty face" and got pretty close. Gonna try adding "saliva string" and maybe some tags like "lustful gaze" or "one eye half-closed", see what that does.
I know this is caused by prompt bleed, but how do I mitigate, for example, petals appearing in the image when I prompt for Pipp Petals (using YiffyMix in this case) without inpainting? Do I just put "petals" in the negative prompt or does that reduce the model's accuracy to reproduce the character?
>>42642472Oh, I see. I was thinking of WAN 2.0 over on the WAN website. I haven't used the original, so I have no idea how many tries it would take.
Another one rises!I haven't forgot about this. I haven't had that much time and it's very tough getting everything even in the right ballpark since there's so many details that have to be right in the background. Posting this one since I thought it interesting.
>>42642172>>42642401PDXLv7 is released on Civitai (but only for online generation, not download): https://civitai.com/models/1901521The comments and the usage ratio on Civitai ("Dormant", which is what the image refers to) should tell you enough.
>>42643294Actually, update: it's currently "Buzzing" (extremely high generation usage) so I guess people are at least trying it out.
>>42643294Download should be available next week. Hopefully that will allow people to use it in checkpoint merges with other models like Illustrious and NoobAI.
>>42641727This one would take the very best artists months to draw.>>42642468This one can get a pretty decent show accurate look: https://pastebin.com/avmJkKD5 (Prompt for pic rel.)Only possible using Invoke AI though due to incompatible Loras.>>42642483For that one, yes. I'm always trying to find ways to decrease the creep factor in these.
>>42643442Thanks! Gonna play around with that a bit later.>150 stepsIsn't that a bit excessive? Civitai's online generator doesn't even go past 50.
>>42643464With an SDE type scheduler it gets more detailed the more steps you have, while other types of schedulers cap out at a certain number of steps. This is crucial for photorealism because things in real life have infinite detail. I'd recommend 100 minimum for this kind of stuff.
>>42643294>PDXLv7>Ponies look like shitLMAO I guess this is what happens when you change your focus to anime/ 3D/ anthro content.
>>42643302Early feedback seems mostly negative:>From what I've seen so far, and from the tests I've done, it always seems to be performing worse than or at best equal to the Illustrious XL base, which isn't exactly a good sign.>I've never been more disappointed with the release of a model in my entire life. So much wasted hype, just for subpar generations on an even worse on-site generation suite>sigh I guess the issue here was Aura. Chroma is better and worth working with instead. >Not even better than old SD1 models>The model is a disaster, and if anyone gets the idea to show it in a native image comparison here, it will be deleted without comment!>Unfortunately, this model loses out to the V6 and even more so to models based on the Illustrious.>Getting a decent image is a struggle. Lots of bad outputs. It is unclear what style cluster to use for desired style. As I understand score_ tags do not work as expected in this version so it is unclear what quality tags to use. Maybe 7.1 will be better.>Born as dead base model nobody asked for. Results are worse than from early sdxl anime models>This sux, lmao.>this would go hard if it was 2023A few users aren't so negative:>I see a lot of people clowning on the model, and of course some of it is warranted, but looking at the example images below, I have to admit I'm impressed.>The hate on ts unfinished model is crazy.>Guys please give this some time. i remember when the original sdxl was released it felt like garbage to me because i did not know what to do until loras and finetunes came out . ive never used the base models but from there things go on !This seems useful if anyone wants to experiment with it themselves:>The main problem is that Pony7 works with tags really worse, than Pony6. Pony7 somehow can work with long captions, but when typing everything short you almost always get bad results. It needs longer prompts unlike Illustrious.I don't know how much stock to place in these evaluations. People seemed to have genned a lot of anime girls, and there are some futa anthros, but not a lot of actual ponies. The pony gens look pretty good, see picrel.
Kinda incredible that Astralite Heart was so autistic about the V7 tagging that they made v7 autistic itself. You need to describe exactly what you want in excruciating detail in a very rigged format to get it to produce something better than dogshit. What the hell is the point of sinking so much time and money into producing a model that isn't even an improvement over v6 at making MLP style images of ponies? That goal is suppose to be the guiding star. Congrats, your model is probably better at backgrounds (when fed a prompt with 10x more details about the environment), now try to generate a style-accurate frame of MLP. Oh what's this, your current rube-worthy "style-cluster" system means I gotta manually plow through thousands of artist-agnostic approximations of traits that an OCR tool deemed to be the "same style" so that I may have a quivering CHANCE of finding a "cluster" superficially resembling the THING THE MODEL WAS NAMED AFTER? Sounds like you've wasted the time of everybody involved. It's really telling that there isn't a SINGLE show-accurate image on the civitai page for the model.>pic unrelated, generated by Google Gemini just now by directly asking for MLP's style in the prompt
>>42644143>That goal is suppose to be the guiding starI thought he sold out. Isn't that what Fictional is? There's a fuckton of money around anything AI these days, and tbdesu I bet I'd sell out too.
>>42643836All the gens are so blurry. I also haven't seen a single really good pony image yet.
>>42644258I figured, what's the harm in trying? So I tried to write a prompt that would produce something like the image in >>42644143. My first try was:>Show accurate angry My Little Pony Rainbow Dash standing on a cloud at dusk. In the background is a rainbow and hazy clouds. Her wings are spread and she has one hoof raised. She wears a blue baseball cap with a logo of a lightning bolt in a cloud.As a negative prompt,>Photorealistic, SFM, 3d, anthro, humanEverything was left at the defaults: CFG 3.5, Euler, clip skip 2, 25 steps, 1536x1536. Seed was 1982053091. I have no idea if these are anything close to reasonable for this model. Literally this is my first attempt with Pony V7.The result is shit, honestly. Forget about being show accurate. She has fucked up ears, twisted wings, a barrel that's too short and legs that are too long. It's a mess. Did I get unlucky? Did I prompt it wrong? Or does it even matter?
>>42644323I used to recognize AI generation as a valid artistic process, but now I'm not sure.
>>42643689This looks like a reverse version of Godzilla.
>>42643106Ooh, it's looking neat. Good stuff, Anon.
>>42643836Did you use AI to summarize this?>Guys please give this some time. i remember when the original sdxl was released it felt like garbage to me because i did not know what to do until loras and finetunes came out . ive never used the base models but from there things go on !"just wait for other people to fix this mess" LOL
>>42644974AI is great at some things, but I can still cut and paste better than it can.
>>42644143the fact you can wrangle it to have anything similar to friendship is magic style at all, is better than base illustrious. if it can do poses or if loras are significant enough it might be good. pretty useless right now without a local download though, trying to 'figure it out' through online gens sounds awful.all that said, ponyv6 wasn't good either, but made a great base for loras. i assume there is some legalese reason v7 is the way it is so hopefully there is a 'friendship is magic' addon lora
>>42645530It should be strictly better than v6 out of the box. Is it?
Grok video is pretty funhttp://haystack.yerf.org/GCOB5S.mp4http://haystack.yerf.org/3w4Fnm.mp4http://haystack.yerf.org/dthfIy.mp4http://haystack.yerf.org/DQp45h.mp4http://haystack.yerf.org/3iREax.mp4http://haystack.yerf.org/BCQeGP.mp4
>>42645548At ponies? Doesn't seem like it.
>>42643302Update: after the initial high usage yesterday because of the release, it is once again "Dormant" (not currently being used for generation).
The fuck is a "style cluster"?
>>42646454I think it's a group of artist styles that Astralite thinks look close enough to count as the same thing. However, with a system like this, it means a model will never fully accurately reproduce a certain artist's style (likely on purpose).Honestly, I don't even need the artist tags (I use LoRAs for this, tags are unreliable when using low CFG scale) but the decision to remove them just to please traditional artist (who are going to hate you regardless) is truly braindead.
>>42646229>Wasted 100k+ dollars on thisHow? Did he donate to them or something?
>>42646528Also, isn't using numbers for these "style clusters" incredibly susceptible to prompt bleed?
>>42643294Discord trannies are working overtime to boost this pooprompt model.
>>42647200
>>42647432Even disregarding the subject of the images, the right image just looks bad. I mean, look at that hand.
>>42644143>You need to describe exactly what you want in excruciating detail in a very rigged format to get it to produce something better than dogshit. >when fed a prompt with 10x more details >>42644323It's because he trained the trashmodel on gpt describing the image, kek.
>>42647625I may be in the minority in saying this, but I much preferred the tag format of the previous model (and all other models I have used). It just seems way more intuitive - I just list everything I want to see in the image (and what I don't in the negative prompt) and usually get something good with a couple of tries. It may just be the autist in me, but using this kind of flowery language to describe what should appear in the image just seems like a ton more work.
>>42646528>that Astralite thinks look close enoughI thought he used some kind of clustering algorithm for this. It was always a stupid idea, because you can't make useful clusters without knowing what you're clustering, and you can't do that automatically without a model, and the whole point of making clusters was to help train the model. It's a chicken-and-egg situation.>>42646820It depends on how it's done. If you give each cluster name its own token, then you'll be fine, because the token is functionally a one-hot encoding of which cluster you're in. But I suspect he didn't do that, and in all likelihood, he did cause prompt bleed.>>42647798I want both tags and natural language. There are things you can't express with tags, like, "She wears a blue baseball cap with a logo of a lightning bolt in a cloud." using tags. But if I want a picture of Rainbow Dash, then I want to just write "Rainbow Dash" and have it know what I mean. When Chroma first came out, I tried prompting some MLP characters, and in order to get them right, I had to say things like, "Rainbow Dash, a blue pegasus pony with magenta eyes and a rainbow mane and tail" and even then it sometimes generated a pony that didn't quite look right.
>>42646528That does sound awfully lot like a regression.
>>42648319Artist recognition isn't the only thing that's regressed. For my second ever generation with Pony V7, I tried:>Pony Twilight Sparkle sits in a plush easy chair in a well-lit library. She is reading a book. Her horn is glowing, and she is concentrating on the book. The back wall of the library is several adjacent tall bookshelves all packed with colorful books. The scene is in a show accurate My Little Pony style.Same negative prompt and parameters as before.In a way, it's better: Most of the picture is background, and nothing in the background jumps out as wrong until you look closely. Except maybe the chair because it looks like it's been upholstered with horse hair. But Twilight looks absolutely terrible. Her horn is like a crushed paper towel tube, and the glow is weirdly irregular. Her head changes height at the horn. Her eyes are slightly derped, her nose is a misshapen blob, and she doesn't really have a mouth. Her limbs don't have hooves. And the style is nothing like show accurate.
>>42650603For comparison, I asked ChatGPT to generate an image using basically the same prompt:>Generate an image of pony Twilight Sparkle sits in a plush easy chair in a well-lit library. She is reading a book. Her horn is glowing, and she is concentrating on the book. The back wall of the library is several adjacent tall bookshelves all packed with colorful books. The scene is in a show accurate My Little Pony style.I wouldn't call it perfect, since her right ear and hoof are missing, but it's a lot better.
>>42647200>>42647560What a hot mare.
>>42650603What a fucking disgusting chair
>>42639894https://vocaroo.com/1klQ5mM7hTtH
>>42646528Removing the artist tags absolutely crippled the pony model. AI art looking the same is the biggest complaint, and modern Pony literally enforces it.And dumbest of all, like you said, the haters are going to hate the AI anyway. Removing the artist tags destroyed the model for literally no reason.
>>42650978Everypony stand up to /mlp/'s national anthem
>>42650603That Twilight looks like the very first models that vaguely knew what a pony looks like.
>>42650992Another dumb decision was the "opt-out system" he employed. No doubt tons of pony artists filled out that form to have their work excluded from training. And there is literally no need. Unless an artist can prove you trained the model on their images (they can't) they have no legal basis to complain anyway. In fact, the legal basis they're using is on very shaky ground to begin with: an AI getting trained on images is the same way a regular human is "trained" to copy a style (which by itself cannot be copyrighted anyway), namely by "observing" and "learning" (the result of that process being the weights of the models). There is literally ZERO data of the original artists' work in the model. Like the AI misinfo link in the OP says: "It doesn't have the textbook, it studied for the exam!" But most importantly of all, these people you are trying to appease hate your guts anyway, and they are probably overjoyed to see him ship a model that's worse than the previous one (meaning they actually got what they really wanted - which is simply to see AI fail).
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>>42652928I see /jdb/ has been cooking.
>>42653449>source: my ass
Fictional is a fucking slap in the face to his OG fans. The pics of ponies fucking suck hard, like intentionally bad. Please don’t look and give that prick a download. Just take my word.
>>42650603I wonder if Astralite removed all screenshots from the show from his dataset.
>Rarity desperate to stay relevant by uploading a clip of her AI generated likeness.>Not realizing she uploaded the wrong segment>Trying to convince herself no-one will notice the change.https://files.catbox.moe/p7nokp.mp4
>>42656587wow, so now we can redo all post s3 shit without twilicorn
>>42656587Very nice. Looks quite authentic.
>>42645991>https://haystack.yerf.org/3iREax.mp4WTF!?Are you saying me you just prompt something like "Cute children Applejack inviting me to llok at the stars" and it gives you a video with background music and a voice close to her!?
>>42650609Why doesn't it works for me?
>>42658060I just put in "applejack invites you to watch the night with her"Found it more interesting that i managed to replicate Applejacks voice
>>42658140Damn, technology really goes fast...We had pic rel a bit more than a year ago...I was wondering, can you feed the last image of your video to it and generated the follow up?I know it won't be perfect, but I'm curious...
>>42658174Sure, but it's a lot of redoing since control is limitedhttps://haystack.yerf.org/XIM9DD.mp4Aside from that it's pretty good and rather uncensoredhttps://haystack.yerf.org/OE7uaA.mp4https://haystack.yerf.org/QH9Cxf.mp4https://haystack.yerf.org/VfA1Ty.mp4https://haystack.yerf.org/a8Tz2L.mp4https://haystack.yerf.org/2xaIBV.mp4https://haystack.yerf.org/BlC8NI.mp4https://haystack.yerf.org/uhZjmS.mp4
>>42658271Not flawless but it works, nice.Also, I'm not into child or questionable age.But you Cadance one was really interesting.Do you have a free acount?I don't even know how grook works, I don't have an X account.I will try to run Wan in local when I have some time tho.
>>42658373I still have Twitter Blue but it should work with the free accounts too I thinkfaggothttps://haystack.yerf.org/EDCSxF.mp4
>>42656363Very likely. Not to mention probably 90% of the original pony booru dataset because of his "opt-out program". GG Astra, really.
>>42658441Well, thanks for the pointers, I will ponder about it.But I think I will try the local route before, it's more customizeable.Thank you.
>>42658077I have no idea why, but some people/countries(?) get filtered harder than others. I tried to ask ChatGPT to write me some greentext like found on 4chan a few times and even when I told it to leave out slurs or rule-breaking content it often got filtered. Meanwhile, some other dude did and uploaded AI-generated greentext that literally contained "-fag" and didn't.It's just one more reason AI should never be left into the hands of corporations. They can't even be unbiased with their filtering.
>>42658568>I'm not a pedo. Btw, I'll gen locally because, uhh, because it's more customizable, yeah!
>>42658271>https://haystack.yerf.org/BlC8NI.mp4What the fuck? The fact the Sunset video came through already surprised me, but this beats all.Hope you're using a VPN. Based, though, even if I'm not really into loli that much.
>>42658930Usually the less human something looks the higher the chancehttps://haystack.yerf.org/gSoKVQ.mp4
>>42658077I think it's because I went through ChatGPT. It might be calling Dall-E on the back end, but ChatGPT doesn't seem to care that I'm asking to reproduce a copyrighted style.As an experiment, I tried generating another image through ChatGPT and comparing it to Pony V7. For Pony V7 I used the prompt:>A show-accurate My Little Pony Pinkie Pie stands in front of a kitchen counter. She wears an apron and a chef's hat. She holds a whisk and is quickly stirring a mixing bowl full of batter. Globs of batter are flying out of the bowl and landing on her face and body and on the counter. Next to the bowl is a cake pan. In the background is a kitchen with a stove, oven, range hood, and cabinets. A saucepan with frosting is on top of the stove. The oven is preheated to 350 degrees. The cabinets are open and their shelves are stocked with spices.For ChatGPT, I used the same prompt except I started it:>Generate an image of a show-accurate My Little Pony Pinkie PieChatGPT didn't complain at all. It generated picrel. There are a bunch of errors that make it not that impressive. The whisk is two-headed. The geometry of the kitchen makes no sense. The color of the stove isn't consistent, and if you zoom in on the stove, you see that the shape of the burner is messed up by the whisk. I could also argue about some of the artistic choices made here: The globs are more "suspended in midair" than "flying", and Pinkie looks like she's paused in the middle of mixing.
>>42659328Here's Pony V7's attempt. Pinkie is balanced on one hoof on the counter. The stove burners are a mess. The saucepan isn't shaped like a saucepan and the frosting isn't on the stovetop. In the back left corner around the range hood, the cabinet is all messed up. The chef's hat doesn't fit on her head. The cake pan isn't shaped like a cake pan, and the batter is in a cauldron in a mixing bowl. The area behind and around the cauldron is messed up. I do like how the batter really looks like it's flying out of the mixing bowl, except for the giant glob of semen spurting from Pinkie's head. And, as always, the model has no idea what "show accurate" means.
>>42659365It's actually surprisingly good for PonyV7. The examples I've seen on Civitai are pretty much all terrible, even with VERY simple prompts. That doesn't make it good though, especially if this wordy flowery nonsense is the only way to get semi-decent results from the model.
>>42659401Actually scratch flowery, your prompt isn't flowery, it's mostly descriptive.
>>42656876Right now due to all the restrictions in place (and failed results due to the filter flagging it as third party), it's kind of a proof of concept. It can be achieved, but by how and whom remains an issue. As it stands, I see it as a milestone of comparison for open models to try and match as the tech gets better and smaller. Even if an upcoming open version is worse, if it's small enough to fine-tune on consumer hardware then we have the pony data to refine it further towards perfection; mares.>>42657687Very, and getting Rarity was by random chance. The prompt only nudged towards the show without flat out requesting it plainly. Got Fluttershy, Pinkie and Rainbow in another, but not nearly as authentic.
>>42639894>Yup, that's me. You're probably wondering how I ended up in this situation.
>>42660261Realism with just enough SFM in the mix to feel off. The spear is remarkably coherent, though. Good job on that!
>>42660261If one holds her spear by the chin, it frees up the hooves for pugilism.
>>42639894
>>42660261>cheesy-legs shadowsussy
Bump with an old one.
>>42658582>It's just one more reason AI should never be left into the hands of corporations.Nothing should be left in the hands of corporations. Corporations used to be alright when they had an end goal, at which point they disbanded. Now they grow like cancerous tumors and drag society down with them. No higher purpose, no soul.
>>42664072You may not like it, but AI would never achieve the level we have now without the crazy corporate capital investment.Fortunately the technology will still be there when the bubble bursts.
>>42664355Yes it would. There was no need for Big Tech to get involved. All the important AI development came from startups, and PDXLv6 is the prime evidence that a huge corporation is not needed for development, just a group of dedicated autists.
There we go, finally done with this. Once again couldn't get as deep and bright colors as I would've liked but oh well. Difficulties of doing something other than "1girl, simple background"
>>42658077you have to tell it to "use workarounds" for words and to avoid copyrighted names
>>42664733No, it wouldn't exist without Big Tech. Without Big Tech's GPU purchases, the hardware would never have reached the sophistication it has how. They manage the data centers where those GPUs are housed, and those data centers operate at a scale that individuals can't match. All the software stacks on which the models run (Torch, Tensorflow, Keras, etc.) are funded and often directly developed by Big Tech. What we do in this thread wouldn't exist without them. So when the bubble bursts, AI development is essentially going to halt.
>>42664733>PDXLv6 is the prime evidence that a huge corporation is not needed for developmentThat's like saying an indie game on Unreal Engine is proof we don't need big corporations making games lol.
Well, Civitai is dead. Any alternatives that don't require payment?
>>42665152Yeah toss the craptop and run it local.
>>42665152The best part of the announcement is how they say with a straight face, "Civitai.com stays freedom-first."
>>42665308"We remain freedom-first, some people just have to pay for that freedom, that's all."
>>42658174If you think this is good let me tell you about Sora 2. I am surprised no one is talking about Sora 2 with the animation and Rainbow Dash’s voice fitting perfectly but 4 Chan does not allow audio. This was before the content violations though. And he being in a church this is kinda fitting for Rainbow Dash I don’t know why.
>>42658599Online is fast, but restricted, limited in generation and or length, and can shut down/be unuseable any day.I prefer local because I want to queue up some prompt for the night and wake up in the morning enjoying the generations before wageslaving.Not everything is sexual or deviant, you coombrain.
>>42665152I was a bit miffed that I burned through over 10,000 buzz last month on gens, but now I'm happy I did. Still have more than 12k blue buzz left that is pretty much worthless now though.
>>42659365Complete fucking slop. Even the batter flying out is wrong and just looks like it's being ejected out of the center whisk instead of the force of the whisk being used. Pinkie is also levitating half-on and half off the counter with broken anatomy while her hooves are sized for a midget. All flash no substance 2/10 gen
>>42665100We really don't though. Have you played any AAA games recently?
>>42665515Sorry, I was just joshin' ya. I don't care at all what anyone gens, it's just a fucking picture.
>>42665515What the hell do you prompt that takes all night to gen?
>>42665016AI development has already come to a standstill though.
>>42664748Looking pretty good though. Thanks, Anon.
>>42647432>train on fucking auraflow of all things>turns out a bad foundation means you make a bad finetuneShocking, I know.
I genned an /SS/ oc with the name I got, but I kinda feel bad for the people doodling in the threads so I never posted it. They're having fun drawing and I don't want to ruin it with something much higher quality at a fraction of the effort that would likely also start a spergout.
>>42662481The lost Picasso...
>>42668658Self censorship is still censorship
>>42669374News flash bucky; if you didn't order it, you're not entitled to it. Creators have the right not to release what they make.
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>>42670560>if you didn't order it, you're not entitled to itAnon likely meant something along the lines of, "You are your own obstacle" or "Don't worry about it."
>>42665100>PDXLv6 is the prime evidence that a huge corporation is not needed for development>That's like saying an indie game on Unreal Engine is proof we don't need big corporations making games lol.Blender is a community-driven project under the GNU General Public License (GPL). Blender Foundation is a nonprofit which is funded primarily by donations. People use the free program everyday to make pictures and animations. Your argument falls flat.
Who's your favorite AI artist? I'm leaning either Goblintide or Celuniamoon. I thought Goblin had it for sure until Celunia dropped this fucking coco ass that had me beyond diamonds. https://www.deviantart.com/celuniamoon/art/OPEN-Coco-pommel-Goth-FERAL-1246021707I wish she'd do that style more. It seems like she prefers some chibi one.
>>42673067Are you for real? Celunia makes the simplest, most generic babby's first PD6 anime style lora slop.
>>42672345The point was that PD is just a finetune of an existing commercial model, which required orders of magnitude less effort than creating a model from scratch.>Blender Foundation is a nonprofit which is funded primarily by donations.From corporations mostly.Also Blender is not development of a new technology, it's just reimplementation of old shit.
>>42673211So are new AI models. Again, we never needed Big Tech. The most important AI model, SDXL, was developed by a startup. Sure, they springboarded current AI development, but anything that came since then from Big Tech is nothing but cucked shit we don't need like Gemini or Bing, which won't even allow you to gen a copyrighted character. Again, we DO NOT NEED Google or Microsoft. Stop buying their lies.
>>42673067>Who's your favorite AI artist?Me. Nobody else makes exactly the fetish shit that I like (it's hardly even a fetish, but nowadays it's sadly considered one). Or at least that I could make before Civitai decided to shit itself.
>>42673959You are autistically ignorant of the actual work and resources required. SD was not developed on a bunch of RTX cards in someone's garage.
>>42673998Are you denying that Stability AI is a startup?
>>42674002No. They are a startup created after Big Tech already invested in AI computing infrastructure, without which they would not exist.
>>42674020>after Big Tech already investedSure, if you wanna go that route, they'll always be invaluable in your mind. Here's a hint: it's not just Big Tech that invested in this technology.
>>42674038the guy probably believes nobody was using computers before microsoft windows came along. not even realizing its actually these monopolist companies that kept technology back for decades>you NEED us goy!!
>not into mlp>never used AI before>try pony realism>because it's called pony realism, I prompt "a pony opening her mouth with her tongue out">horrific uncanny gen of a photorealistic pony showing me her throat appears>didn't even ask but she's drooling too>proceed to goon for 5 hours to chernobyl ponies covered in liters of cumwhat a nightthat's all bye
>>42674054Typical annitranny
>>42674049>macroshaft winblows suxxxxxx!lol it's not 2004 anymore, grandpa
>>42673972>Nobody else makes exactly the fetish shit that I likeDo you like hairy mares?
>>42673067Anyone who does more than just generic shiny anime style clop.But I guess that's where the updoots and coombux are so that's what gets made.
>>42674136Yeah, exactly that. It's ridiculous that this is considered a "fetish" nowadays while pseudo-cunny is considered "decent and respectable clean porn for well-adjusted individuals such as myself" but that's the way it is.
>>42674253Me too, AI is a game changer.I was thinking about putting up my mostly anthro gens somewhere, but I'm ashamed of not cleaning up the signatures and artifacts.
>>42673067>Who's your favorite AI artist? Myself, of course.
>>42673175Celunia makes stuff that doesn't look like ai at all. You are nuts. 90% of the shit I see on tantabus is AI garbage style. Celunia comes along and drops these adorable mares that remind me of old ncmares style. Its clearly completely different. She even made fun of it in her recent poll since she posted generic ai slop style loona that everyone favd to death.
>>42650978lmao this slaps
>>42676075>She
>>42666972I'm okay m8, no hard feelings.>>42666998Oh I don't know, I'm still trying to install wan2GP...But knowing that I have a potato PC and a carboard GPU, it will probably take the night to generate a 3s video...
>>42675034That's one thing Celunia fails at is details. I love the styles she does, but people like you clearly have some kind of better way of generating smaller detail. But fuck if I don't gel perfectly well with her specific brand of pantied pony fetish.
>>42640381Whoa what style prompts or lora for this hatching?
>>42669774>DaybreakerSmug.>Nightmare MoonGrumpy.That's fitting on every level.
bump
>>42680339
Okay, so I'm a cheap fag, and I left the image generation AI for too long to be relevant (like 1 year).So, what' the best system I can set up to generate ponies?The best would be something I can run in a container, maybe even separate the interface from the inference in two containers.Is Comfy UI still relevent?And the Pony model (V6now!?) ?LoRas, are still by model, not universal, correct?
>>42682358>the best systemA system running a couple H100 GPUs. But that's incompatible with being a cheapfag so I have no idea what you're asking for. Do you want the cheapest but best for the price solution or the best solution period? The latter is obviously going to cost you more than you'd like.
>>42682404>H100Scratch that, seems the B200 is the current king.
>>42682358Little has changed, honestly. PDXL v7 should be out soon, but as far as I can tell it's complete trash. Maybe it'll be good for generating base images for img2img but idk, we'll see.Use comfyUI and yoink someone else's workflow from an image's metadata. DL the model(s) used, you should know how that works.If you want to run it local, then it won't be cheap. GPU prices are shooting the moon due to the AI boom and probably aren't coming down any time soon. But, if you can get an nvidia 4070 or something of similar level used, that's probably your best bet.
>>42682358+1 to that Anon's question, is AMD a good alternative to not dealing with the nvidia gpu scalpers on windows? Or are they still damned to forever tinkering with Linux drivers?
>>42682452AMD has good price/performance, but you'll probably need to use Linux. This shouldn't be a problem if you have even just slight technical knowhow or at least willingness to learn. Linux isn't some black magic like some people may make you believe.
The Kirin found a teacher!Said teacher is getting tired of the Kirin's yapping even when she's focusing on magic, but she's not complaining!
>>42682802Zecora's ass mark and the Kirin's hoofsies were a nightmare to get right and I just settled for good enough after over an hour of fiddling. Maybe it'd be possible with more manual editing but whatever. Good enough.
>>42682424>But, if you can get an nvidia 4070 or something of similar level used, that's probably your best bet.Don't buy 4070, not enough VRAM, better to buy an older 90 series.
>>42673067Fuck off retard.
>>42682404>H100 GPUThe cost of an NVIDIA H100 GPU varies significantly based on the purchasing method and configuration. Direct purchase prices start at approximately $25,000 per unit,Fucking kill yourself.
>>42684778This is what you get for not being precise in your questions, retard.Also they will be dirt cheap once the bubble bursts (two more weeks).
>>42682802>Getting Zecora tired of someone talkingThat's a feat to be sure.
>>42682802Cute. The soft lighting and water reflections are quite nice.
AI generated YTP mare clips incoming:>Everything's finehttps://files.catbox.moe/tqmgqb.mp4>"My spa day I'm kaysteerk"https://files.catbox.moe/j0g4q0.mp4>Set them free ... Loop6 times 6https://files.catbox.moe/wgx8rt.mp4
>>42685091>not a single "sos" in thereAI is fucking useless
>>42685162Not to worry, you still have it beat on that front.
>>42685091Kino.
I think i finally got sageattention and trition to work on my machine.
>>42639894I want to make some absolute coomershit with 15 sound generation. How do I make it sound aroused and generate onomatopeia sounds? For example I've been struggling with generating a sound corresponding to "Y-yes".
Made locally in 284 seconds. So yes I did get sageattention to work. And yes it makes a big difference on my machine.
was my 3rd attempt, expect more in a couple hours
>>42689099Neat.
>>42689099>"Bleh! Bleh! Bleh! Apples!"
>>42682404Hi Mr Pedantic...I mean the best one can afford for local generation, not the absolute best in every way (how could you even define that? Also, >>42684778 is not me)>>42682424Thanks for the infos kind Anon.I was using Automatic1111 (it was the way at the time), but comfy should'nt be hard.As for GPU, I have a 2060, so little short on VRAM.I will try to grab a 10/12Gb model if I can (24Gb are coming tho, but will be absurdly expensive)>>42682452Yeah, there are some infos in OP, but nothing to start up.
>>42632461Anthro IS furry, you closet furfag. Why do you think it's reviled and banned? Yiff in hell.>>42654130>threadreaderapp>"capitalism is bad; i think the idea of companies using ai art to put actual artists out of business is disgusting">implying malicious intent, not just "the game">implying artists aren't capitalists themselvesMao was right. Fuck Patreon/Fanbox/etc. and every artist Jew that paywalls.
>>42690562*Obviously meant for OP, cannot be bothered to wait to delete/repost. >>42639894
>>42640381>Bleaaagh! My thing is carpentry and not apples
>>42665414Why not post it on catbox? You can use the litterbox if you don't want it there forever.
>>42690766Spooky.
>>42639894Does anyone here know if most checkpoints are trained with the artist tags included or not?
>>42690766Why was this deleted?
>>42690780>(You)
>>42690920Because I am a perfectionist autist that wanted to post a higher resolution one and not eat up a bunch of image slots for it, FYI if an image is deleted in the first 5mins and its not lewd then the original poster did it 99% of the time
https://files.ponut.space/UGfpcxDL.webmAnyone got something they want animated?
>>42675034Related, it really irritates me when people say AI prompting isn't an art, when actually you can use quite a lot of skill in crafting the prompt and the generation architecture, meaning that AI generation is application of skill to human expression meaning that it qualifies under practically every definition of art.
>>42644143>>42644323>>42646454>>42646528Wait, which models have and which don't have artist tags baked in?
I don't see the voice thread. What's the easiest way to get ponies to sing something? I want this song covered by anypony. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D6cGhaadiuMThank you in advance.
>>42690804I don't know about "most," but Zoinksnoob has them.
>>42690562>>>/leftypol/
>>42639894Not mine.
>>42691995
>>42691375ye
>>42692166That is so pretty. I would love to see Zipp move like that.
When they opened a brand-new cake store in your town.
>>42692222Delivering and checking them digits too
>>42692374Oh wow, good gen for quads? Nice. That mane sure flows.
>>42692210https://files.ponut.space/aTiWMOoV.mp4sorry a bit of projection on my part
>>42639894Made a new vid. I made this one for myself though so maybe not everyone like it.I have a funny planned for my next one.Wild that infinite talk can even do this, when it's not even trained on pony. Yall sleepin on tech fr fr.https://tantabus.ai/images/61519
>>42692277>YWN loan fiat currency to Equestria>>42692527Kek
>>42693041>Yall sleepin on tech fr frWdym I have been posting videos all day. It’s just I broke it trying to install qwen
>>42691696Not really sure; I would maybe investigate the archive for the Pony Preservation Project threads and see what you can dig up. There should be a Google Doc with a lot of info on that kind of stuff.
>>42690621Oh right I forgot that website existed it has been a while since I used catbox or 4 Chan Christian TikTok cooked with this one.https://files.catbox.moe/jf4x7j.mov
https://files.ponut.space/lrMBYdGA.mp4
Anon piggy-backing Lyra clips incoming:>Precious cargo - https://files.catbox.moe/tdlpwe.mp4>Made for humans after all - https://files.catbox.moe/wn39uk.mp4>Better than any cab ride - https://files.catbox.moe/893rin.mp4>Always do - https://files.catbox.moe/c8umg6.mp4>Noble steed - https://files.catbox.moe/zvqfim.mp4>You walk like a dependable mule - https://files.catbox.moe/jw03e2.mp4Interestingly, some of these do recognize and voice her name as Lyra, despite the prompt only being [Footage of a teal unicorn pony being piggy-back carried by a green morphsuit man wearing a black suit and red tie called "Anon"] and yet... despite being specified, Anon's name was never called out in any of them. Curious.Bonus clip: Not Lyra, but still cute and unique mare in an earlier unicorn piggy-back attempt.>https://files.catbox.moe/1zh385.mp4
>>42693895>.movWhy are you using such an outdated video format? Are you on a Mac or something?
>>42691524I don't really consider it art but I don't consider simple doodles you find on /bale/ "art" either. It's just a drawing, and gens are just that. Fan"art" is a bit of a misnomer in itself. Save for a handful of paintings, no fan drawings really count as "art", either because they show very little application of skill or because it's just eye candy without any message or meaning to it, or (usually) both.
>>42690562Imagine seething so hard you feel the need to respond to a post made in the previous thread, almost 2 weeks ago, kek.
>>42688205>coomer soundsJust use OpenNSFW.
>>42690804Checkpoints that are trained on e621 datasets usually do. It's just Astralite that decided to be a moron.
>>42691537PDXLv6 has them but "obfuscated" (using shorthand codes of several characters, there are some spreadsheets listing them but I don't have the link right now). PDXLv7 probably doesn't have them. Read the docs on Civitai for a checkpoint, it usually says whether they have support for artist tags or not.
(㇏(•̀ᵥᵥ•́)ノ) <--pone hooves not wings
>>42694382sfm slop, 3d has been forever pozzed.
>>42694848In fairness, it's not the AI's fault there's such an abundance of sloppy SFM garbage data in the fandom. High data density means strong bias.Something else to note too. Sora 2 seems to be "modern-locked", as trying to get a ponification of Planet Of The Apes (1968) kept returning Rise Of The Planet Of The Apes (2011) even when explicitly asked. This comes with the negative consequence of introducing G5 bias sometimes too. Which might also explain why Twilight keeps being shown with wings too... Hmm...
>>42694949Nothing wrong with G5, but pozzed nu-media full of DIVERSITY is a problem. At least it would be if I ever wanted to gen anything other than ponies (why would you?)
>>42694964>Nothing wrong with G5Gross. Hard disagree, but at least it's not barbies. Still adds to the problem though.>if I ever wanted to gen anything other than ponies (why would you?)True. Using this tech for non-mare purposes would be a terrible waste of resources. 99% of the requests I've asked is at the bare minimum related to horses: Brony pixel art, soldier ordering to fire the friendship canon laser (giant pony mech form), Steve Irwin finding Trixie, Einstein proving mathematically who is best pony, Oprah singer repeatedly singing 'pony' in front of horses, ponifications of at least 8 movie/shows, showcased pony mods for games and pony spinoffs, V-tuber ponies, viewing pony episodes and sites via retro tech/screens, eohippus documentary, pony YTPs, etc. - Intending to compile most of these later on.---Oh, and for another anons using Sora 2. Be aware you're losing up to 75s of mare per day if using 15s gens rather than 10s. The longer one uses twice the daily tokens for only a 50% clip length increase. Maximize your mare output; gen small mare clips.
Now that Civit is dead, a friendly reminder you can use NAI for NSFW generation, however the lack of LoRA is painful. A new account gets 30 free gens.
>>42694382These are great.
Any general tips for local video gen? I've tried wan2.2 ti2v 5B and it did generate... something, but after the first few frames it turns to a jumpy mess. Is the "lightweight" model just shit, or is it an issue with my prompt/settings? I grabbed a workflow from built-in templates and didn't touch most settings.Also, I quickly run out of system memory unless I launch Comfy with --cache-none.
>>42691055Hot.
>>42696619Seconding this. I tried Wan today. The regular model almost always turns into a wild mess. I found some furry porn finetune, but this one tries turning every video into a cock bouncing loop.
>>42696619>>42696845If you are <12GB of VRAM you need sageattention and triton, I made >>42694565 in 429 secs. on a laptop 4070 with 8GB of VRAM. So I finally broke down and subbed to someone for 5 bucks. What you are also buying with a sub is technical help too. I managed to edit the .bat to make it work on my machine but people ask and get questions answered in the comments all the time. And no I am not gonna link the person's paetron since it would be advertising. Almost every AI youtuber has one and I imagine they all work anyways. If you value your time it might be worth it in the long run. And I tell you this with no shame in the fact that I am a paypig for a month. At least I got something tangible out of it.
>>42696910Ok then how about you share *your* workflow? Like which models/loras to use and how to effectively prompt?
>>42697422I am not qualified enough to give advice, I have no idea what I am doing outside of predefined boundaries. But I use sageattention and the Lighting 4step Loras. Also the loras are Wan2.2-I2V-A14B-LowNoise-Q3_K_S and High. And Wan2.2-TI2V-5B-Q3_K_S. If you arent a VRAMlette like me on 8GB you can use a fatter QUANT. And the lighting ones are wan2.2_i2v_lightx2v_4steps_lora_v1_low_noise and the high one. I hope this helps
took me forever to edit out something but learned somethings in the process
>>42697422>how to effectively promptI use chat gpt to make a wan 2.2 i2v prompts for me. I literally have no idea what I an doing, outside of an idea for an image/scene. I just let it flesh it out for me, while giving it key points and ideas to embellish.
also if you ask google to do it for you sometimes it will give you levels of embellishment. Something chatgpt needs to prompted for usually.
>>42691375I'm curious, what would the AI do with plushies?
Did a lewd for lulzhttps://files.ponut.space/TxjydFnG.mp4
A soft, stuffed plush pony toy lies on its belly on a cozy tablecloth. Its hooves are gently holding a small, toy-sized plush hamburger in front of its muzzle. The scene is warm and softly lit, with a cute bedroom background full of pillows and plushies. The pony leans forward slightly and adorably nibbles the plush burger with tiny movements, as if pretending to eat it. The animation shows slow, playful motion — the pony’s head bobbing a little, the burger squishing softly between its hooves. Lighting stays warm and cozy, with a shallow depth of field and smooth camera focus transitions.Done in 519s on 8GB of vram, locally. If I wanted to post the 16fps one I could in half the time but we are only talking about two and a half minutes difference. And a noticeable difference in quality. I am stickler for FPS.
>>42697968Looks like shit.
>>42698561Considering the source and my editing skills, sure its pretty rough. I am limit testing my capabilities. Check the Cute dictators thread for the original. (all i did was try to edit out the double pupil.)
>>42694500Here's the spreadsheet: https://lite.framacalc.org/4ttgzvd0rx-a6jf
an adorable bat pony gamer girl sitting in her comfy gaming chair, surrounded by softly glowing RGB lights and cozy nighttime ambience. her big bat wings flutter lightly as she gets excited, ears perking up and twitching in sync with the game sounds. she leans forward with sparkling eyes fixed on the screen, muzzle curling into a playful grin as her tiny fangs catch the monitor light. her fluffy mane bounces a little as she giggles and claps her hooves together, tail swishing with cheerful energy. camera makes a gentle orbit around her desk setup, showing glowing keys, controller lights, and the cozy gamer den behind her. soft reflections, warm neon tones, expressive idle animation full of charm and personality
>>42695629Another option is Yodayo. Apparently, as far as I gathered they banned all NSFW at some point but because of backlash from the community they reverted their decision at least in part - if you fill in your DOB and tick the "I'm 18+" checkbox you can still gen NSFW material. The website only allows up to R to be posted but the generator doesn't block explicit content, unlike Tensor.art which literally blocks the prompt when it encounters lewd words (I've seen Tensor.art get mentioned so many times with people saying "Yeah it still allows it dude, no problem just don't post it" but it's complete bollocks). There's even some explicit LoRAs up on there just hidden behind a "safe" preview image. You get 50 free credits every day, but they don't stack, sadly, and an image requires a minimum of 4 credits so you'll burn through it pretty quickly.
>>42698509Damn, that's impressive.Also, why does the light turns yellow? I saw a youtube thumbnail yapping about AI "yellowing" but didn't bother, and now I wonder...Also also, thank you for sharing your prompt and config too!Did you use wan2gp?
>>42699680it switches to "warm" lighting, which is the temp. of the light. Warm corresponds to what candle light throws. I asked it do to that in the prompt, basically.
>>42699680oh and i use comfyui and wan 2.2 models
>>42684778Hahaha, are you a janny so butthurt you had to delete my comment >>42685698 and warn me for "trolling"? That's what you're going to get when you act like a stupid motherfucker and then act high and mighty when you get a dumb answer in return.>>42690554Well, assuming you really are not the seething retard, your question is still ambiguous since you're not telling us what your budget is. "Best one can afford" is obviously very subjective. But since you're mentioning a 12 GB model at max, I'm assuming your budget is around $500 dollars for the card only. In that case, you should go for a 16 GB model like the 4060 Ti. 12 GB is way too small for a card bought for AI these days, you'll just regret your purchase down the line. However, if you're willing to splurge just a bit more, get a used 3090 so you get access to 24 GB VRAM. eBay lists them for about $800 average, though obviously you should never buy a second-hand GPU from a seller you're not meeting in person.>24Gb are coming thoThe 5090 is already 32 GB. (Also the announced Radeon R9700 but AMD has specifically stated they have no intention of selling it to consumers, only to OEMs.)
>>42699824The 4060ti has less than 300gb/s ram bandwidth its an awful card for AI. A 3060 12gb would do him better. Used 3090 is good. 5060ti 16gb has gone for $380 recently. 450gb/s bandwidth so not the best but better than the 4060ti.
>>42694436Yes sadly I am an old soul so I am on Mac and will use mov as a video format. So do you want to see some more ai Sora 2 pony videos from Christian tik tok found one with Rainbow Dash reading the Bible.
old AI render
>>42700690And they said AI will never get hands with 5 fingers or ponies with 4 legs. LOL
>>42700576A 4060 Ti provides 22 TFLOPS on FP16/32 workloads. A 3060 provides only 12.7 TFLOPS on the same, so no, it's definitely a worse choice for AI in terms of raw performance. Price/performance wise it might be a better choice though because it's really cheap, but 12 GB VRAM is going to severely limit your choices for future models. I didn't consider the 5060 Ti but considering the price that's probably an even better choice than the 4060 Ti.
>>42700690Ah, yes. Man made horrors beyond comprehension. Good times.
Bump.
>10
https://files.ponut.space/pkQiwvbf.jpg
It's pretty fun.
>>42704158aweeg.https://files.ponut.space/pCPQrrpR.webm
>>42704158Donkeh!
Why does pony ai feel so dead? It's like the only account that is growing is Celunia moon and she is like 70% furry. https://www.deviantart.com/itsrealtorumiThis guy having only 100 followers is a crime.
>>42704276Well if you did any research you would have seen this guy is popular in the ruskie internetsphere
>>42704481no one gives a shit about the ruskie internetsphere
>>42704570Only useful idiots who believe any lie pushed by the WEF and related overlords don't. For the rest of us, it's just a normal country slowly becoming even more free than the West.
>>42704622>dictatorship>ultra conservative>state owned and censored media >way more free than the west guys!And this is why Russian propaganda is winning.
>>42704739>when Shining comes home with the pizza after a long night of buggery
based google ai helper, the common errors was the one I had. using wan 2.1 and 2.2 gguf
python 3.14 installed in a weird spot, heads up if you want a clean root drive
>>42700690The AI, you opened... we came.
>>42704276Nobody uses Deviantart, grandpa.
>>42703918I kinda expected teeth.
https://files.ponut.space/RQFVjXON.pngCelestia do I love Slutty Bats, unf.https://files.ponut.space/YxdTSdgN.pnghttps://files.ponut.space/lixDgDqO.pnghttps://files.ponut.space/uCMphgiR.png
>dat bat pony poster
>>42708950what models/prompt for this? That's really clean horse pussy right there.
>>42709354The one in the OP. The run of the mill version of ZoinksNoob. Also know that those were hoof picked for their quality out of 190 or so. I plan on uploading them all some day to catbox. A lot of good ones didn't get chosen. Also no Loras, embeddings, or inpainting. Just raw output. I know you didn't ask but i did 8 batches of 8 three times and 1 batch of 8. The 8x8 take exactly 16mins. And I got a bunch more mids. I might even post a bunch in thread. These were lewd so couldnt but expect more content soon. Reminds me of gacha rolling with a mixture of crypto NFT luck.
>>42709649oh and the prompts are in the meta data of the catbox images usually
https://catbox.moe/c/7cwojqI upload the first 30 I think. Ill finish tomorrow.
>>42708950H-hot.
>>42691828>Oy vey, make art FOR FREE?Post nose, kike.>>42694466 No argument, huh? Feels good to be right.
>>42710919
Since when does derpi allow ai images again?
>>42709999Updated with 100+ files
>>42711566I think they always allowed them. They just need to be edited heavily or just really good enough to look like it was edited.
>>42711596Not really, people openly tag them as ai.https://derpibooru.org/images/3697629>edited heavilyThat's even worse imo, it would damage future models aside from just being dishonest.
>>42711596Interesting- derpi janny removed my comment where I told him quite politely to post it on tantabus because apparently i could only report the post. now I'm banned for a day but the post is still there. Now I see why there are so many altboorus
>>42711643>>42711631derpi has no rules really just whatever the mods want and yes that's why there are so many altboorus.
>>42711643Derpimods are fags. They have no moral or moderation standards.
>>42709999Teat armor lmao
>>42712185Golden too! Baps know what and how to protect!
>>42709999Nice numbers for a nice collection.
>>42712287thanks for checkin' em
I know no one asked but I'm proud of myself for developing a .bat file that creates a .json file that then is read by a .ps1 file in order to automate uploading hundreds of files to a catbox user account. Most of the heavy lifting is done with a cargo package in Rust "pip" called catbox that is a cli program for it.
>>42712295Someone had to do it.
>>42712185That's the best part about it.
>>42699782Yooo that looks great. I love how if you do over the top realism it makes the detail decent when you downscale it to video and tones down the uncanny a lot. Could be a strat with that.
>>42710919Seethe on, retard.
>>42712348Huh? Why not just do all the work in the PS script?
>>42713358Those teeth are a touch too long.
>>42713408I like the modularity of it and I wont upload something on accident. I could've made the ps1 file something I can drag and drop a folder on but I have a faulty mouse that double clicks I could accidently upload my sensitive files that way. This way I can visually see what it plans on uploading.
>>42713358ya it does pony realism really well
https://files.ponut.space/EQNYLTtZ.mp4added some effects
>>42716223Apparently, this is a batpony of the fire breathing variety. Observe how she is building up heat and getting ready to spew flames all over the place
sunhonse in tha dark
>>42716780>the hoofboots stay on
>>42716765Oh shit get down!
>>42716780Metal shod hooves glow so bright.
>>42716031-1
>>42717393This is why you don't give curry to bats.
NIGGERS NIGGERS NIGGERSAI IS FOR LAZY NIGGERSPICK UP A PENCIL FATASS
>>42717393Hot bat. I enjoy the snow bats myself.>https://files.ponut.space/WXFmsQmM.mp4Also, looks like catbox is down again.
>>42717393>"That's 'a sspicey-y meat-a' ball!"
>>42720205So basically I have access to 90's cinema special effects on my laptop, lol.
>>42720271That plus ponies.
up
>>42721402>>42721407What happened to her teeth?
>>42722575>Too much exposure to Tara data>Timmy Turner tooth mutation added
>>42722911Ouch.
>>42723390Now make a cum bath version.
Bamp
>>42723390That rubber ducky is in heaven in that pic.
>>42718465Well I mean when talent comes into this fandom like the cupcakes animation you all wined beca It was violent and I know the guy who did it is now playing video games because you all hate talent. So now mope with ai trixie fag. I would like to see what you can make.
>>42717139Kinky.
>>42712215Pretty sure that's a fetish of some kind.
Greetings from /v/! Some anon (or bot) posted this image earlier in a now destroyed thread. After doing some digging I was able to source it here(ish). I was inquiring if the anon who genned it is around and is able to tell me the artist (or mix of artist) to get this sort of style. I'm a sucker for the eyes and nice flat colors of this piece. As I'm unaware of your customs I shall end this post with the knowledge that I'd fuck the hell out of Scootaloo but Derpy is my favorite and I find her every endearing (non-sexually).
>>42726341https://tantabus.ai/38257No metadata found.
>>42726417I was able to come across that site as well. Although it was called Lunabooru or something in the url instead. I was hoping the anon might be lurking around these threads as it would be quite inconvenient to drum up an account to ask about a 9 month old gen. Either way thank you for looking anon.
>>42726441You could ask Teaspoon what he used for that. The drawing reminds me of a particular artist but I can't come up with his name.>I was able to come across that site as well. Although it was called Lunabooru or something in the url instead. Lunabooru is to Tantabus what Trixiebooru is to Derpibooru, an alternate domain serving the same website.
>>42726441>>42726469Nevermind, he seems to have uploaded the LoRA for this particular style, base Illustrious.https://civitai.com/models/1302537/flat-impact-noobai
>>42726488Oh badass. Nice investigation work anon! I'll get around to toying with it later on.
>>42724714
>>42728839Sleepy pone for a sleepy thread.
PonyV7 went total faggot troon retards, 0 reason to even touch it.
>>42729710Absolutely dead in the water.
>>42729710>troonStop just tossing buzzwords around, it doesn't make you sound cool.>>42729714This is a requirement to be hosted on huggingface and civitai, and almost certainly for having their app on the apple store.v7 is a shit model for a lot of reasons, the training set not having sundown's loli art of 9yo Appleboom getting her ass blasted open isn't one of them.
>>42730040Unironically hang yourself by your nuts, YWNBAW
>>42729714>no filliesFuck this shit>>42730040Go back faggot
>>42726488Is it the same style as this one ? Cause I've been looking for the prompter who dropped in a thread long ago.
>>42730048>YWNBAWI would hope not.>no filliesYou have to be mentally incapacitated to think you can't get foalcon and AI CP out of v7, which tells me you're both too poor to be able to test it out and too clueless to know how these models work. So why are you here?
>>42730040>sundown's loli art of 9yo Appleboom getting her ass blasted openIs legal. So there's no reason to exclude it. The only "inappropriate" content I accept to get filtered is actual honest to God CP.
>>42730235You must be the only person besides Astralite that I've seen defend this garbage model.
>>42726469>TeaspoonWasn't that an alt of Patachu?
>>42730259What's legal and what a service's TOS will allow are two very different things.>>42730266>You must be the only person besides Astralite that I've seen defend this garbage model.>>42730040>v7 is a shit model for a lot of reasonsImpressive reading comprehension even for this board. v7 should have been aborted back in November when astralite first announced it would be on auroraflow and his initial tests just churned out hot garbage charitably comparable to early craiyon gens. Why he kept burning money and community hope (and goodwill) for a full year after that I can only assume came down to pride or greed.I have no hopes for v7.1, this shit is broken beyond repair. v8 might be worth something if he moves on to qwen and actually learned something, but I don't know if he'll have the money left to do the training, or if anyone will still care so long as Chroma keeps improving.
>>42730269The Smiling PonyOwner of Derpi & Tantai.
>>42730358>v8 might be worth somethingNo you fucking retard. Many artists forbid training models on their art, and Astralite, like an obedient dog, accepts their refusal.
>>42730545>seething like thisget help bro
>>42730269Literally the opposite, kek.
>>42730269
Respectfully request a gen of Daybreaker and Nightmare Moon riding a canoe (or maybe a warship) down the river Styx (or a lava river) while happily singing Row, Row, Row You Boat.
All this about v7, v6 barely seems to work for me, the forks or whatever the fuck muddy the style, all I want is show accurate pictures of ponies :(
>>42730810Seconding this. This is good.
>>42730545This. Models that exclude legit pony content for "reasons" are worthless. We're here for the best possible MLP art, I don't give a single shit if a model is better at genning 3DPDs or abstract backgrounds. I literally don't give a single fuck. He betrayed the people that made him big in the first place, and seeing his model go down in flames is sweet karma.
>>42730126That seems like Hattsy's style.Checking it closely, it even has his signature on the bottom right. It also has an Applejack vector hidden for some reason?It's obviously not AI generated, but probably paywalled or not public yet.
>>42731285>He betrayed the people that made him big in the first place, and seeing his model go down in flames is sweet karma.This
>>42731504Why should I care, fuck Hattsy, artists now shamelessly trace to appropriate AI art and don't even credit then slap hard AI artists.
>>42730545Astralite had no choice to block style LoRAs. Don't hate on her whho did what she could but artists sending legal threats against the hosting. And testing the generator to check if it does.She's got a LONG list of DMCA and claims, from artists who made money from a copyrighted brand.Neither Fictional nor astra or anyone here can afford lawyers or to be in court, they're operating at loss.Kill these people
>>42730810I tried.
>>42731565Looks fine in my eyes. I do wonder how the paddles work with a magic aura though.
Random Daybreaker I got too.
>>42731285Yep, fuck every single "artist" that got big off MLP art and now cries about it being "trained" on. The only reason anyone gave a shit was because you did MLP. Go do your own completely original OC material and no one will give two shits to train on that.
>>42730657Met him at the hall at MareFair, brought my portfolioHe's the only person I ever met to not make fun of it and he seemed sincere.discussed tech, free speech and politics.>"I'm with other artists at the bar, you should join us">Offers me an anti-furry stickerCool guy but I stayed away from that clique.
>>42731905That's hilarious because he is an unironic furry. He made art for e621.
>>42731968And if you paid a bit of attention to the drama over this, he sent them a DMCA claiming e621 is making profit because it's owned by BadDragon and he never gave them any rights. e621 told him to fuck off but he paid a lawyer to open a case, they had to delete the raptor pretending it was his copyright or pay him royalties for using it. For over a decade ! He even brought proof he's the author with an original drawing and watermark. Patachu is a greedy faggot, even furries aren't such kikes.
>>42731968>kike is a hypocriteTo the surprise of no one
Up.
>>42732759
Has anyone messed around with Sora 2 or other video generators? Just saw this and wondering if there was more https://youtu.be/egtGH4zvcTY?t=159
>>42733459>>42718822>>42717393
>>42733138
>>42732130>fighting for your rights is kikery
>>42734955PD v7 looking good
>>42734959>unironically supporting copyright and dmcakys frfr
>>42735771>art is free, you should let corporations take what they want from youyou are a dumb fuck
>>42734959You don't have rights on art you publish. Even for free or paid. Capitalism is incompatible with art or report every mlp art every fanart and all your slutty OCs to Hasbro corp.>>42735891Corporations challenging corporations like Google, Microsoft and OpenAI and more against greedy media corporations is a better fight than small people VS corporations, only tech giants can finally push against ©laws.Intellectual property is a kike bullshit that destroyed art. I can't stand an artist who will place himself as an IP hodler. Original Character Do Not Steal !Furry or brony or anime all have the same issue, if you are in a community, you share art with it, you're not an unique creator living on your island.
>>42731905>Hey kid nice AI art would you like to meet actual artists and show them your hard works>Hey you're a cool goy bro dude have a sticker cause we're edgy at MareFare this one is free now we're going to lecture you about art!
>>42736070You are a delusional retard. Removing IP laws would only benefit huge corporations.>hurrr so why won't they conspire to abolish themBecause that would upset the status quo and some corporations would lose.
>>42736091>Why yes, IP law that only massive corporations can sue over constantly is anti-corporate>No, they won't abolish IP law because greedy corporations care about other corporations' well-beingLeast retarded furry take.
>>42736485Thanks, glad you're surprised a furry can also have a >based takeCapitalism always been a childish battle, but if a giant tech corp can slap Hasbro or Nintendo and tell em basically fuck you we let people create from your IP trained on your stuff, yes I'm all for it. and the buggest one is usually the scary one, not always.Oh the poor artists fighting mega data corp, now everyone can create, including artist.That's the future I want, even if these times Ai is badly regarded it will rise again.
>>42736485>>42736558Which part of allowing corporations to steal any person's creation and profit from it is good in your 200 IQ opinion?>b-b-but they already do it!No they don't most of the time.>b-b-but the people will be able to do the same to corporate assets!The people don't have resources to do shit with them.
>>42736091Greedy AIjews ARE conspiring to rewrite copyrights to feed the algorithm since they've been caught with their pants down that everything was illegal, they're just kicking the can down the road until the goyim stops being so uppity
>>42736608We Need. A reform. On Copyright and IP.Allow all classical music to modern cartoons to be equally treated the same equally, to protect AI training and machine learning and enrich the whole mankind.p's creative ability.Artists should be the ones supporting this. Artists should scream free the art. Most already do anonymously but not socially.That would mean consider AI like a person able to read and understand, and learn not copy. This is what neural networks are, I studied how it works for years, once AI gets rights, as a co-author, it will be finally a liberation for all AI artists, musicians, composers or filmmakers. People will create even more that's what I want.AI is fragile, it's not the monster they claimed, we had a little golden age 2023-2024, but why are fans giving up AI so early ? we have zoinksnoob and PDV7 and more, it's not over, it's at stall because the lack of a clear legal framework. AI art isn't seen as an original creation, we got to fight for this, maybe some tech giants will give AI creators a voice, not a fucking clown like musk who knows grok is a fucking joke.
>>42736755>greedy AijewsBuddy, calm down, we just try instead to abolish that crap and make art available almost for free to everyone
>>42736807>People will create even more that's what I want.Nothing is stopping creative people from creating right now.You cling to the retarded idea that somehow Disney having rights to Mickey Mouse is harming your creative ability.Also you fail to see that any "freeing" WILL be exploited by corporations, harming you more in the end.Just look at what happened to free/open source software. It was supposed to destroy commercial software and give power to the people.Instead, most of free software is now controlled by corporations because they figured out how to profit from it and had resources to take it over.
>>42736812>WeKarma is going to fuck you niggers with the corporates you suck off while life is made worse for everyone else.
>>42736921Two more weeks.
>>42736928I like how you didn't deny being a corporate stooge, total death can't come to ai niggers and the circlejerk bubble soon enough
>>42736941Cry me a river.
>>42736966>We're da good guys>Actually... fuck you!!That didn't last long, consider suicide with your spectacular failure as a shill.
>>42736998Yawn.
>>42737007Go back.
>>42737009No thanks.
>>42737024Everyone knows that trannies who larp as ai saviors of the fandom are from astroonlight's discord.Go back.
>>42736921How is life made worse?Sane person: More data will help the corporations more tailored on the users' needs.>Patachu: Hear me out folks! Big gov'ment is coming to spy on your loli and foalcon porn and arrest you for shouting the N word, y'all worried bout foalcon, right? Install Linux!
>>42737699>pinkie reviving the thread
>>42738545Me on the right
>>42730269>>42731504No Teaspoon is not Patachu at all, that's crazy to read. But their LoRA discussed here are more a smart mix, a blend of styles than a single malt. So yes it's got Patachu and Hatsy and some more, its. The other, rather popular one is a mix of Doxy and Atryl.>>42731654Artists should be more regarding and understand the concept of community/fandom. When we are part of a school or community or any team we don't really claim to be better than others. We create content to be shared and shown to all the community we join. The community that welcomes us. Every community even 4chan's Anons works that way.Lots of artists do and create there own original art but no one knows them, even there they still are in art communities, schools, or streets.We need communities and communities needs us, let's not forget that. AI art opens and reinforce that community aspect it is the synthesis of it.
>>42733459That's fantastic why is no one talking much about it?This is why I can't understand what's going on. It's animation! We will soon be able to gen entire episodes given heavy editing and scene rewriting.>>42734945>>42734955Those were from 2021-22, look how things have changed in so little time, 3-4 years have been an exponential increase in details and quality surpassing all artists. why is nobody talking about this ? I am friend with artists on deviantart who are also worried about the future of AI.What should boost the interest of AI art? What needs to be innovated? How to capture that something that can and may give emotion? It'd be good to listen to people about this and try not to get mad when they say >it's AI in a bad sense.I fear like the amount of political memes spurting from Grok and trumptards are killing AI as art. You think these are the same-Think again and look. Look please.
>>42739191>it's got Patachu and HatsyPatachu's bug-eyed abortion of a style looks nothing like that lora. He really did ptsd this thread hard.
>>42739326Nobody is talking about Patachu but you.>But right hereYeah, that's you.
>>42739306>That's fantastic why is no one talking much about it?Because it is a proprietary cucked model that can only generate 10 sec clips and will probably go offline in a few months.
>>42739564Fuck I hate Musk, I would pay for such a generator rendering longer animation.>>42739306AI peak is behindus sadly and I hate how it's becoming a niche, it's evolving but I really see little difference between PdV6 and v7, SD is stagnating and Zoinks is kind of repetitive. We need something innovating, something that really cut straight artists mockeries. Now what could be the next step in AI art? I think it's important because myself, I don't feel like generating anymore, I used to spent entire nights yelling at my computer to gen faster, and cry at the beauty of my gens or fap furiously, I feel like something is gone. Something needs to revive the flame.
Bump
What is that thing about this time?
AIchads, this >>42741139 anon needs your help.
>>42741343
>>42741343Lemme roll the gacha a few more times to see if I get something better.
>>42741343Okay good enough. Take your pick.
>>42741440>>42741533>>42741648Unfortunately, I'm not choosing anything, I just wanted to help Anon, but he seems to be against AI, sorry for wasting your time.
>>42741680>thanks but im choosing none>im choosing noone. im conceding my choiceI'm sure it will be fine, Anon.
>>42741680You can just post a pic yourself my man. I don't give a fuck about the shitflinging and bandwagon contest that the miss contest has become so I won't do it for you.
Nature spirit pone
>>42731565Kek. They look so happy to be rowing around in a lake of lava. We'll done, Anon.
>>42739191>>42731905I think Wavecipher is a bigger threat than Patachu/Darkdoomer is to AI as counter propaganda he's doing.Pg10 save
>>42743624soulless and uncanny.
>>42744649But he has no red hair.
>>42743624That's one of them pokemons.
>>42745140Doesn't have enough IP claim take downs for that.
>>42639894Does this general count as a request thread?
>>42745581Feel free to drop requests if there's something you want to see.
>>42745596I don't want to make anybody jealous but can you copy the show accurate style?
>>42745599To an extent, yes.
>>42745601Okay so I know people who hate pony and really hate AI and it's really funny to post pony AI art.
>>42745663And?
>>42742403>>42741384Hey hotpockets, maybe instead of deleting posts calling out your shitty work attitude, start cleaning up this thread. They're not paying you for nothing OH WAIT
Did I miss some drama?
>>42746028blud still thinks he's on reddit luhmao
>>42746443Just 4chan administration being incompetent as usual. Everybody should know that anti-AI discussion IN THE AI THREAD is obviously trolling or at the very least off-topic (nobody cares about the politics surrounding AI here, go to /pol/ for that and then proceed to kill yourself)>>42746616>Zombie speakWhat a surprise!
Boing.
>>42747002boing boing
>>42746443Yes as usual.>>42739816>Something needs to revive the flameThat's a dumpster fire.And you throw tires or some dead rats in it.>>42746028
>>42747231Ding dong.
>>42749549*I press my cock against the window to scare her away*
>>42749549Hot.
https://files.catbox.moe/i1q1wp.mp4https://files.catbox.moe/as6mtf.mp4
>>42749794That escalated quickly.
>>42749794DAMN, is that from offline models? Whats the process of it, just a text prompt or is it image2video one?
>>42750192image to video, and yes, wan2.2
>>42750332Was it on derpi or on ponerpics?
>>42750454Derpi. If I posted that on Ponerpics it would be the same, as anon avoiding a direct confrontation against the artist. Same with Twibooru.
>>42750380is this pure wan with no porn loras?
>>42750503https://civitai.com/models/1906148/wan-22-i2v-pov-double-blowjobthis works surprising well, working on a big pony tune atm but also kind of waiting to see if a new model drops in the next month or two
>>42750473>DerpiLol why are you surprised? Deserved for being this retarded.>If I posted that on Ponerpics it would be the same. Same with Twibooru.I haven't heard about bans like that neither on poner or twi. I've been using twi for years so I'd expect it's mods to NOT give you a ban for bringing 4chan drama in the comments, it happens there all the time. Same for poner, I don't see anything in the rules that forbids it.
>>42750332>Discuss Patachu redrawing AIYou're talking about the guy who made this abomination, right? He didn't use AI, I can assure you.https://derpibooru.org/images/408623
Office pone
>>42750682She can do my taxes any time.
>>42750597No I think he was talking about that shitstorm initiatorhttps://derpibooru.org/images/3599508
Uppy.
>>42745972I think it's fun to make people angry with things I enjoy looking at.
>>42739306>What should boost the interest of AI art? What needs to be innovated?As long as AI is labeled as such, I'm fine with it as it is. The older AI is better because of how bad-trippy it looks. Probably a clueless fag with this next train of thought; will build a new one were it to derail and plummet off the side of a cliff, exploding for everyone to see...AI itself should be innovated to build houses and grow food for people, and regulated to keep the prices of said services minimal. Let them self-repair and utilize solar energy as well as draw from the grid as hybrids. So that way humans can focus more of their time/energy on making art by hand, using primitive AI images for inspiration. Maybe it can even build me a new thought train, who knows.
>>42665414i'm confused Sora knows Rainbow Dash's voice? or do you need to do something to get it to sound like her?
>>42752498its over, sora 2 was censored pretty quick. hopefully china releases a cheap alternative eventuallyhttps://files.catbox.moe/804kb3.mp4https://files.catbox.moe/c6acsk.mp4https://files.catbox.moe/evii9f.webmhttps://files.catbox.moe/a968oz.webmhttps://files.catbox.moe/94o1ol.webmhttps://files.catbox.moe/puwbbw.webmhttps://files.catbox.moe/g6nrpy.webm
>>42752532>people having fun with new tech>noooooooo shut it down!!!!I hate this fucking timeline
>>42752532i love these, moar?also what is it like now if you try to do something with Dash?
>>42752532chink videogen is trash, you are coping
>>42752532Doesn't matter to me, it couldn't do any NSFW from the start so nothing of value was lost to me
>>42751938>le AI and le government should give me a free house and food so I can draw all dayNot happening. TPTB wouldn't let it happen anyway, but also you're asking for AI to be used for things it's currently bad at so that you can do things it's already good at.There are ways for you commie leftards to get what you want, but you have to win capitalism instead of dropping hints and hoping the government solves all your problems for you.
>>42730048Keep crying bitch boy
>>42751825
Hey frens, long time no see again.Dropping by to see how everyone's doing! As well as to see how everyone's workstations are holding up.As for me-a filthy AMD user-my setup suddenly stopped producing decent results, instead creating these horrid red and luminous blobs. Currently using SD forge webui and its worked just fine for 1-2 years. Anyone else running into a similar issue?
>>42753250>but you have to win capitalism instead of dropping hintsThe idea is for someone to start a business that utilizes AI as such. Obvs people would need to design and plan the house layout, but then allocate the heavy lifting to machines. As for food, humans would lay the groundwork but let machines water and scan crops for infection, dehydration, or lack of nutrients.>you're asking for AI to be used for things it's currently bad atIt would take some years of programming ofc. But the momentum of AI learning tends to snowball. The idea is for it to be done voluntarily as a startup under capitalism.
>>42750682Cute, but the dress looks very strange on ponies.
>>42753967>the idea is for someone else to start a business and then operate it with extremely thin profit margins so I can get a free rideThis is still just a wish fulfillment fantasy.
>>42753727Did you update your drivers or something?
I'll take ponies or humans in red suits if you have them.
>>427554124U
Lullay moon princess, goodnight sister mine
>>42756020professional rarity
>>42640381i'd let her suck my blood dry
>>42659328What's pinkie making?
New Bread:>>42757362>>42757362>>42757362>>42757362
