Why does everyone assume Cozy Glow was stoned forever? You can de-stone her and apply correction later and there's nothing in the show to say they didn't except shitcord's throwaway "together forever" line when it's not his decision to make.
>>42725017Hmm, I wonder what prompted you to make this thread.It's not just that he said it, its that everyone cheered for it and said nothing to rebute it. Not to mention that there was no sign of her in the next ep.
>>42725023Why wouldn't they cheer for saving the world and putting an end to their evil plans for generations? What a strange question to ask.
Citation neededCaptcha has jujitsu kaisen as the last 3 letters btw lol
>>42727256Citation of what?
>>42728481deez nuts
Reminder that nobody, not a single soul in existence, absolutely no one at all, gave a shit when Tirek was sent back to Tartarus for all eternity in S4.As usual, it's only a problem when it's done to someone people want to fuck.
>>42725017>Why does everyone assume Cozy Glow was stoned forever?Because they're disingenuous. This and many other points have been raised before to show why stoning her and the others is not only justified, but a lot better than they deserve considering they're terrorists whose intentional actions probably killed dozens if not hundreds, and that's after being given a second chance at freedom.>"b-b-b-but Discord!"Not an argument. They refused to follow his plan and went full psycho on their own. So if they don't listen to legitimate authority, they don't listen to villains who are wiser than them, and they've shown they will turn the world into an apocalyptic hellscape if given the slightest inch of freedom... literally what else are you meant to do with them?>"b-b-but she could be redeemed like other villains!"Pure delusional headcanon. Discord never so much as made a friend before and we don't even know that he ever killed anyone, Starlight didn't know the consequences of her actions, Cozy on the other hand was given a front seat to friendship lessons and still went bad, then she was given the chance to just be mildly evil under Grogar and she fucked that up as well. She at least attempted to kill many ponies and was well aware of her actions.
>>42725915>for generationsPlayed yourself.Now what, ya gonna say "for generations" is technically different from "forever"?Nerd ass nerd
>>427301191000 years is the limit for all these kinds of spells, but they can all be released earlier whenever.
>>42730170Made up shit.Good good, seems I won't have to bother with a counter argument.
>>42730227You'd need to watch the show first before making a counter argument.
>>42725017Incinerate Cozy Glow and everyone who likes her (this is morally justifiable)
>>42730447no its not
>>42729120>Because they're disingenuousNo more then Discord.>they're terrorists whose intentional actions probably killed dozens if not hundredsTheir actions were no worse then those of the major reformed villains and they were never proven to kill anyone. Even at times when they very well could have against defenseless opponents.>and that's after being given a second chance at freedom.They were never given a second chance except Chrysalis.>They refused to follow his plan and went full psycho on their ownWhich was only possible because he gave them the tools to do so. And really, what they did is mostly what Discord wanted anyway. He brought them together, forced them to work together, gave them the tools to potentially succeed all with the purpose of sending them to ruin Twilight's coronation.>they've shown they will turn the world into an apocalyptic hellscape if given the slightest inch of freedomIncorrect. They were surprised by the windigos and wanted them gone and they all needed ponies to be alive and healthy enough to achieve their individual goals.>literally what else are you meant to do with them?Reform them.>Discord never so much as made a friend before and we don't even know that he ever killed anyone, Discord made friends with Fluttershy. He betrayed her multiple times.>Starlight didn't know the consequences of her actionsShe knew what she was doing in Our Town and she still needed convincing after seeing the consequences of her actions in the time travel episodes.>front seat to friendship lessons She misunderstood her lessons and there was no attempt to ever correct that.>then she was given the chance to just be mildly evil under Grogar Discord was literally encouraging her to be evil while using both mental and physical intimidation. Also she was made to work with 2 other, much older villains. By that logic, Discord had a chance to stop being evil in Return of Harmony after escaping, but he just went back to doing what got him stoned in the first place.>She at least attempted to kill many ponies and was well aware of her actions.Like how Starlight attempted to kill some of her villagers for stopping her from stealing the M6's cutie marks?
>>42730730>then
>>42725017>not his decision to makeYet if it wasn't for him Celestia and Luna may have sent them to Tartarus instead. It was discord whispering their ears with poison to stone them. And with his largest threats taken care of and back into the good graces of ponykind, he's at the height of his power. So while it is possible for them to be unstoned it is very unlikely.
>>42731187How is tartarsauce not just as bad or even WORSE than being stoned? As far as it seems, at least you're not conscious for the stoning, and probably not aging, as opposed to sitting in a cell - seemingly unattended - until you die.And again, there's no reason at all to think they wouldn't be unstoned. Almost every villain has been reformed in some manner, Sombra being a notable exception. It's entirely reasonable to think that if there had been another season they potentially could have pulled them out again to help against some even bigger bad; the precedent is entirely there The villains were even already learning about the magic of friendship by themselves, much as bughorse was resisting it. And it's not like it's hard to unstone them, it was trivial for Discord.It's functionally less bad than imprisonment.
>>42731240>even WORSECozy and Tirek both survived there and escaped. They could escape again. And with Chrysalis there the chances would only go up. Stoning them is body horror torture which isn't something ponies would normally do to someone.>it was trivial for DiscordThe most magically gifted person in the universe? And it's in his best interest to keep them stoned and he will probably try to stop anyone who tries.
>>42731295>escapedThey were pulled out by Discord's bullshit powers. They never escaped on their own.>The most magically gifted person in the universe?They've already done it without him.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-RIY_2CgDtsDo you even watch the show?And why would Discord try to stop them? Are you suggesting one throwaway line is now his permanent raison d'être forever, as if that really denotes his entire philosophy, or even if it does, that he's never had his mind changed before? All it would take would be Fluttershy saying she thinks he should give them a chance like she did for him and bam, he's on board. Or some other way, there are plenty of options. And again, that's assuming he cares at all. He already got his revenge for them taking his magic.
>>42725017I know for a fact she wasn't stoned forever anon :)
>>42731240Cozy didn't deserve Tartarus either.
>>42725017Turning into sand is the most chad move ever.
>>42730730Starlight didn't attempt to kill anyone, but a better example is Luna trying to brutally murder the m6 with a pony-eating manticore. Luna also tried to spear Twilight with her horn, imagine Twilight's lifeless body dangling off of her head. Luna was pretty insane, the trio deserved better.
>>42732362Neither did Cozy. But I do agree with the rest.
>>42725017>apply correction laterI'd rather apply correction now
>>42732427What sort of correction?
Until we get DLC PROVING OTHERWISE
>>42732443>What sort of correction?
>>42731429cute fillyplush
>>42734254I take pride in my big Cozy :)
>>42734676Have you brought it anywhere else?
I'm not gonna claim the finale was perfect, but the fact that Discord was stoned and later reformed at least means there is canonical precedent in the show itself for saying that the ending leaves plenty of room for hope.
>>42728481That she can be freed or perma stonedI was just going through threads trying to lure a certain thread closer to the bottom lol
