This is the alternative MLP fan site general thread. Discussion, development suggestions, and criticisms are all welcome here.SFW Filter Month Edition>why alternate boorus?The absolute state of Derpibooru has led to the development of various alternatives. Many altbooru staffmembers are present ITT, listening to comments and answering questions.Note that this is NOT the Derpibooru drama general. Please keep posts about Derpibooru in the mlpg.co thread.>why alternate text sites?Pastebin persistently purges pony pastes. FimFiction does not allow stories in greentext format. FimFetch censors foalcon and other material deemed to be "unacceptable" by the whims of its libelous hypocrite: https://ponepaste.org/9926>general purpose boorusponerpics.org by Lotus [!!VL3e2tgvNo5]ponybooru.org by Zizzy [!DizzyMC4pc]twibooru.org by Twifag and Floorb [!!mdpTjuXo6BG]>specialized boorusbooru.foalcon.com by Pathos (underage)lyrabooru.org (hot glue)>(green)text and other fanfictionponepaste.org by Aftercase [!!KXV0q+Lg38e], managed by Floorb>dedicated archivesa0346f102085fe9f.github.io/IAS2foalfetch.net by Floorbhorsewords.orgiwiftp.yerf.org by Romemulpwiki.batpony.party>video sharingpony.tube by Twifag and Floorb>file sharingpone.rsponut.space>microbloggingpone.social by Twifag and Floorb>link shorteningderpy.meOn past /fast/s:>Ponerpics duplicate queue has several hundred reports awaiting an update to Derpi metadata handling>Twibooru importer disrupted by Derpi API change; fix implemented and missed images retrieved (and again)>SunBooru resumes development>Twibooru begins importing from Manebooru>PonePaste UI improvements go live>Pony.Tube future expansion under consideration>Ponerpics disables anonymous tag editing to curb spam; results promising>derpy.me back online after purging spam links>IWIFTP relaunches Tor hidden service: 647jnod5oc7bzj3tpjq2qaaq6j73sa4h43whqeubkvkbvm52yecm72id.onion>Twibooru slows to a crawl due to a network routing issue; fix implemented overnight+IWIFTP launches i2p service: ow7qtlpe3u36qob4dgoo3opifaj335hbk6gxv43tfjjzhvky5zwa.b32.i2p+Quad9 DNS block of Twibooru successfully appealed+PonePaste domain expires; gets transferred to Floorb+PonyTube and Pone.Social receive updates courtesy of Floorb+Ponerpics prev/next image shortcuts fixed; move to Ponybooru fork of Philomena announcedPrevious thread: >>42611248
>>42762946first
>>42762949I've been using ponerpics for stockpiling images as someone told me twibooru and ponybooru both blocked Aryanne content.Is this true or have i been duped?
>>42762959You've been duped.
>>42762959Ponybooru has not blocked Aryanne content.Of the 126 images tagged with Aryanne that have been removed, 70% of them are duplicate images, 25% are from the same DNP image being uploaded 20 times (and another 4 times), and the remaining handful of images stem from various artists' DNPs.None of them have been removed just because Aryanne happened to be present.Twibooru will have had fewer images of her removed on account of them not doing DNPs.
>>42762959You've been massively duped. One of the main reasons ponybooru and twibooru got to exist in the first place was because of Aryanne.
>>42762959>twibooru and ponybooru both blocked Aryanne contentMassive fucking fake news of the highest order. Someone is either horribly misinformed or wanted to mess with you on purpose.
>>42763034>>42763058>>42763069>>42763114>Be me>Be retarded Guess guess i probably shouldn't listen to people on mlpol.Would there be any reason to use one booru over another?They all seem to function and look pretty much the same but i only bothered to make an account on ponerpics.
>>42763143Both Ponerpics and Twibooru have the same hardline no-takedown policy. Choosing one isn't a moral dilemma, it just comes down to which particular features you want (e.g. Poner's forums vs. Twi's text & MP4 uploads).
Bonk.
>>42763143Ponerpics and Ponybooru are communities, Twibooru is just an archive, not intended to engage with the people there (comments are normally turned off and only anonymous). Twibooru keeps everything up, Ponerpics keeps mostly everything up, Ponybooru is shady in that regard, there was some drama over a picture being deleted without the artist's request or something but I forgot what it was.
>>42762946Can't read ponepaste on mobile. Text overflows out of the screen and I can't scroll to the right.
>>42763800>>42763263So twibooru would be good for hunting pics and poner pics for chewing the fat.Regardless of where i go i just naturally asume there's gonna be some degree drama amongst users, thats a thing you'll get everywhere.
>>42763800>Ponybooru is shady in that regard, there was some drama over a picture being deleted without the artist's request or something but I forgot what it wastwi3027548, deleted because two Ponybooru staff at the time didn't want outed for being foalfags but given context were probably foalfags.>Twibooru is just an archiveThis is mostly because /mlp/ hasn't completely died and this thread exists. The forums are rigged to be operational pretty quickly after the last shitshow.>>42763143>guess i probably shouldn't listen to people on mlpolGiven they have a vested interest in shilling their option over others (for some reason, now) and the general rot of the imageboard in question, yeah. Probably get multiple sources for info next time, anon.
>>42763855>Outed for being foalfagsWho the fuck cares?>After the last shitshowWhat kind of shitshow could possibly come from archiving pics?Yeh pretty much nothing going on with mlpol, get less than 10 posts a day there most days and half of them are probably me.
>>42763934>Who the fuck cares?Them, apparently.>What kind of shitshow could possibly come from archiving pics?Not from archival, but from communication mediums of choice eating shit and dying like earlier this year.
>>42763934>What kind of shitshow could possibly come from archiving pics?It's <current year>. You can get a shitshow even from not doing something.
>>42763800>Twibooru keeps everything up, Ponerpics keeps mostly everything upNot to invoke the threadschizo, but Poner's policies are more lenient when it comes to non-pony OCs. I can't think of one pic that's been deleted off Poner but is still on Twi.>>42763934>>42763967YOUR PONY FAN WEB SITE THAT YOU DO FOR FREE HAS TO BE UP 24/7 OTHERWISE YOU SHOULD NOT RUN A SITE AT ALLYOU MUST DO IT FOR FREE 24/7 AND YOU ARE INCOMPETENT AND SHOULD KILL YOURSELF IF YOU HAVE EVEN 1 SECOND OF DOWNTIME PER DECADE
>>42764056Given that the differences between boorus is pretty small, I'm probably going to just stick with ponerpics as it's working fine for me and its got most of what I'm looking for anyway.>YOUR PONY FAN WEB SITE THAT YOU DO FOR FREE HAS TO BE UP 24/7 OTHERWISE YOU SHOULD NOT RUN A SITE AT ALLYOU MUST DO IT FOR FREE 24/7 AND YOU ARE INCOMPETENT AND SHOULD KILL YOURSELF IF YOU HAVE EVEN 1 SECOND OF DOWNTIME PER DECADEThe fuck was all that about?
>>42763143>Guess guess i probably shouldn't listen to people on mlpolYou should never listen to those people, Anon. They don't care about mares. They only care about furthering their political ideas using pone as a vehicle. They are literally the same as the danger hairs, but on the other direction.
>>42764056>Poner's policies are more lenient when it comes to non-pony OCs.I'm mostly talking about their stance on paywalled content. Twibooru's is a clear "we're going to keep it up anyway, cope and seethe" whereas Ponerpics doesn't have a clear policy and seems to mostly keep it up merely out of inactivity of the moderation, but that's not a guarantee.
>>42764708Mostly true, and they're just as insufferable to be around as the woke leftoids on Derpi. Shame that sensible people no longer exist.
>>42763143>>42763846Basically.Twibooru has a lot more stuff that has been deleted from derpi for dnp and alike. >>42752855However it has a tagging problem, there are not enough users to compete with derpi on that regard and it doesn't automatically sync the edits.
>>42765108Maybe Twibooru's importer is just faster than Ponerpics so it catches more.Also don't forget that Twibooru automatically adds the tag "deleted from derpibooru" to loli uploads. The posts may have never even existed on Derpibooru and Ponerpics, due to its more active community, removes the misleading tags on import from Twibooru.
>>42765144I checked by hand a couple pics that were uploaded on derpi about 12 years ago, the artist tag has been purged some time later for dnp, and I wan't able to find these images on poner. Haven't tried ponybooru, so I think they only exist now on twi, since the deviantart source is gone too.
>>42765144>Also don't forget that Twibooru automatically adds the tag "deleted from derpibooru" to loli uploads.Not anymore, these implications have been removed.
>>42764911Back in the good old days of 2020 when Ponerpics first popped up, there was some consideration of DNPs:https://desuarchive.org/mlp/thread/35572418/#35582604Thankfully, this never materialized into anything. The DNP request system on Ponerpics is essentially a practical joke aimed at anyone who'd be petty enough to waste time demanding his horsey scribbles be erased from history.That's not to say the Site Rules page shouldn't be updated. The removal of "More rules, particularly concerning the rights of artists, may be added in the future" was a good start, but "This is a My Little Pony Archive Site" isn't as concrete of a statement as I'd like it to be, considering the innumerable self-described "archives" that purge their collections at the drop of a hat.>>42765144>Twibooru automatically adds the tag "deleted from derpibooru" to loli uploads.It never has. The [lolicon] and [shotacon] tags used to imply [banned from derpibooru], but that implication was removed over two months ago following an internal discussion over the precise nature of Derpi's lolisho policy. Spoiler alert: it's as inconsistently applied as the rest of them.
>>42765199>>42765257I see, I stand corrected then.
>>42764921You can find some of them here. But using the own common sense still applies.
What's your go-to for finding cute art you haven't seen before on the boorus?
>>42766028Every day, perhaps twice a day, usually while I eat, I scroll through the images that were posted since the last time I did that. Takes 15 minutes at most.
>>42766131>browsing while you eatI hope your filters are up to snuff, pun not intended.
>>42766269I used to browse rekt/dark webm threads while eating on b and gif no problem, years ago when they were fun.
>>42766028Random chance on Poner or Twi, really. I don't frequent pages like DA and such anymore.
>>42766355should boorus do more to prevent underageb& from accessing inappropriate content?
>>42767426If the government forces them to and they can't flip a bird, they have no other option.
>>42766355>while eating on b and gif no problemYou have received permanent mental damage.
>>42767463Why not join 4chan in a class action suit against Ofcom?>>42768426It's called not being a fucking pussy.
>>42768435>It's called not being a fucking pussy.I did not say you are a pussy if you can't stand gore. But I stand by the mental damage statement.
>>42763058>Ponybooru has not blocked Aryanne content.They totally would if Ass Stalker complained enough. They already proved that just like Derpi OC owners matter more than artists to them.
>>42768426True, I did. I regret nothing.>>42768435If you have infinite money sure I guess.
How many mares?
>>42769338>Ass StalkerLiterally who?
>>42770063Newfag.
>>42770077Call me what you will, I'd like to know who that is so that I can ignore any complaints regarding Aryanne he may send Ponybooru's way.
>>42770126What makes you think you shouldn't ignore any complaints you get about Aryanne no matter from whom they come? If it's not the government of course.
>>42770147What makes you think I won't ignore such complaints anyway?
>>42770174Use case for asking about Ass Stalker if you plan to ignore him anyway?
>>42770040Yes.
Guys I know you’re all very excited about the cutting edge upload capabilities of IWIFTP but please don’t Sib Mouse my upload folder or at least get better taste thanks
>>42770776lol kek
>>42770776I have no idea what you're talking about.
>>42770776You don't like when people upload unrelated crap to your archive? Are you telling me it's some kind of curated collection or something then?
>>42771816That's a lot of assuming coming from so little brain power
>>42771824You sound angry.
>>42771832Feel free to contribute
>>42771838Why does he create so much salt?
How much do booru mods get paid?
>>42772805They get paid in exposition.
>>42772805I pay them with blowjobs :)
>>42773094Where do I cash that in I want a mare, please
>>42773094Based. Men give the best head because they know exactly what a guy likes.You'd be such a good little slut wouldn't you?
>>42774111He wouldn't, because exchanging sexual favors for labor is whoredom, not sluttery.
>>42772805You jest but they hold a lot of social power over the fandom.
>>42774141Oh yeah, like /mlp/ jannies right? Beloved by all
>>42774143Better to be feared than loved, if you cannot be both.
>>42774165>t. nmmfag
Why does twiburro hate deers sm
why is there no booru that bans pedoshit but keeps aryanne?
>>42775383Your fiction is bad my fiction good head ass.
Thoughts on >>42774737?
>>42775435I believe there was a period awhile ago where e621 did a purge of a bunch of content, it might have been anthro foalcon or loli or something like that. At that time I downloaded all of the MLP content from e621, and I've had it sitting around as a project to import into Twibooru at some point.
>>42775521>purgeNot quite: circa 2020, they set the default blacklist to hide every nonsafe image tagged with "young", forcing you to make an account if you want to access that material. Still good to have an archive; did you scrape all the metadata? e621 sourcelinks can be invaluable in tracking down unuploaded pone.
>>42775599There was some kind of purge a lot more recent than that - I'm thinking either this year or last. I know something specific triggered me to do it. Yes, it includes all the metadata the API returned, if I recall.
>>42775435Oh the inhumanity! All of the porn in one place properly tagged!? What monsters would do such a thing?
>>42775691>properly taggedAnon, I...
>>42775691That's why I prefer paheal to xxx honestlyLess tagging means less opportunities for incorrect, inconsistent or incompetent tagging
>>42775604Guess that kind of stuff is going to happen much more often as time goes on. The internet is under siege these days.
>>42777011All the more reason to have as many databases archiving all that is worth saving, right?
>>42762946Since most of these sites are built on derpis stuff maybe you horsefuckers could help me out where the mods of derpi can't. I have made a bot that auto downloads a user's favrioted posts from various sites including derpi. We use pagination to get the users favriotes since I didn't see a way to sort by date favrioted through the api call at first. I do see one now. But unsure if this will help or do anything. We send the users api key and monitor the responses. Apply now hard coded cool offs between each download of 6 seconds and when getting the bot check from their middleware we even employ a 60 seconds back off, 10 times longer than they say is needed. This works and then randomly we get that ip blocked. I know it's their middleware and seemingly some ddos protection. But is there something I need to add? It seems to happen a bit at random. But the bots inefficient and I wonder if the search methodology is hitting a daily api use limit thats not listed. The bot checks every 2 hours, but because a user can favriote a post from any time period, and favriotes aren't in chronological order I have to use the pagination to get each page. So if it's a 10k limit with 2k pages for a user than that would jive with what I'm seeing. If it is a hidden cap then I suppose using the sf and sd will solve it then alongside comparing id's. If two are found in the database on that page to have already been downloaded then do not go to the next page, end derpi loop. I just don't know if that will solve it or simply mask the issue though. And if i add more actions then we would still hit that cap. Like I said its middleware so I know it's not written into the sites framework that the alt boorus are based on. But I'm not a network and security nerd so help is appreciated. Seems dumb to have a bot check on an api, where the mods say "your bot has no way of passing". But it's apparently ddos protection
>>42777443have you tried asking it on derpi forums why are you asking about derpi shit here of all places faggot
>>42777505>where the derpi mods couldn't >since most of these sites are built on derpiFelt i pretty much explained why? I also assume I'll probably get requests for alts too, and I would be happy to support them. So if they have similar things it can be headed off. And generally this is viewed by admins of the various boorus so it seems a good way to get more knowledgeable help, from pony first people.
>>42777443>Due to recent attacks, we have changed API search rate limits.>Before: 20 requests per 10 seconds>After: 10 requests per 10 secondsIf you're using pagination then each new page counts as a new request. You're definitely going to want to sort by date favorited after a first (slow) query for the updates.
>>42777443>>42777520Does your third world shithole not have paragraph breaks?
>>42777309Sure. It's always good to have redundancies. You never know when you might need them,
>>42777604Turns out I can't. I thought that was an option with modification date. But that refers to modification of the file date, which makes sense. So i don't believe there is a date added to favriotes sorting. We already added a hard coded pause for downloads but good point, if there are no new favriotes on that page durring a check it will adhere to the 20 requests per 10 seconds posted on the api docs. Maybe that's it? Though we should have seen the back off requests follow those calls. I'll try decreasing the pagination rate. >>42777605Sorry saar. Thank you come again
>>42763058>honoring dnpsjej>>42763143Sounds like you fit right in with them.>>42771816>cockless shitting his diapers unprompted while not realizing the irony of his statement
Should I focus on uploading all my stuff to Ponerpics, Twibooru or Ponybooru?
>>42778619Just upload it to derpi manThey'll re-upload it from there anyway
>>42778273Why are you accusing me, the person who has been ragging on that tranny the most here, of being Cockless?
How do I search for a specific youtube video ID on the ponyarchive?I'm looking for https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GKqlCRMRS1YOriginal title is "Coco [PMW]"
>>42778821 (me)Found the author and the thumbnail, but can't find the channel (id):https://www.equestriadaily.com/2024/08/pmvparody-coco.html
>>42778273>>42778634>threadschizos now pointing fingers at each other instead of random Anonsthat's fucking hilarious
>>42778956Do girls do NNN too?
>>42778972I dunno, they got nut to not november?
>>42778979You might.
>>42778821 (me)>>42778831 (me)Ok so I found a backup of it on bilibili. Thanks for the Chinese copying everything. https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV165mSYYEGJ/Quality is not the best, but better than nothing.Also the BlueBolt channel despite running for many many years was not archived by ThePonyArchive sadly. Channeld Id is (was) UCRaOngDEWWIoQ_iOLwIXU7Q
>>42763855>Given they have a vested interest in shilling their option over others (for some reason, now) and the general rot of the imageboard in question, yeah. Probably get multiple sources for info next time, anon.A search of mlpol for "Ponybooru" gives no instances of posts stating that Ponybooru blocks Aryanne, nor am I aware of anyone saying anything like that on related servers.>>42763143>Why use one booru over the otherWe are the only booru to use Derpy's color scheme as the default theming, and therefore are the best.>>42778657It is not "often" banned, and certainly not intentionally. A couple years ago PonerPics was being overloaded by bot spam, and I blocked a number of nations to try to stop it. It was found that one of those nations was the one that Twibooru's importer came from. This was for a period of at most a week, and was rectified as soon as I became aware.A couple months ago, there was another serious issue with bot spam, and I saw a rule in cloudflare with a name implying it blocked a specific country that was a problem. It actually blocked [country redacted], which is Twibooru's Importer country ID. That too, was undone as soon as I found out, after only a few days. It's a total of maybe 10 or at most 14 days of blockage in over five years of both websites existing.>>42765257Yeah, that really does need to be updated>>42765167This is definitely I project I would like to look into in the future
>>42779417>It is not "often" banned, and certainly not intentionally.For anyone else questioning - this and the rest of that part of the reply are completely true.Recently (and by this I mean probably 6-8 months ago,) something changed, and the Philomena websocket endpoint on PonerPics stopped working, so the importer relying on it stopped working as well. This happened on Derpibooru as well, but for a different reason, several months later. I've worked on an importer that doesn't rely on that endpoint, which I use for Derpibooru right now, but I just haven't set it up for PonerPics yet. I guess I can investigate that right about now.
>>42779655>I guess I can investigate that right about now.And it's now been done. I don't know why I didn't do that sooner.
>>42778956>criticism of a website's moderation is "schizo"You should've stayed on Derpi.
>>42779664Was that bug the reason for this report >>42749646? Well, good to know it's fixed now anyway.>>42779417>It is not "often" banned, and certainly not intentionally.Sorry, I don't generally assume malice, because I think all the altboorus probably have mostly the same objective. It's just, like I said, you never know these days because everyone seems to have an agenda.
>>42779655I also had an issue with my own PonerPics scraper. It would work for a few thousand images, and then it would get stuck with some error from the site. No matter what I did I could not get my scraper to automatically recover from the error. It was like the error was cached even though nothing on my end should have been caching anything. Not even a half hour delay before retrying the image would work. But if I manually restarted my scraper, the site would immediately work again. It was strange. I think it took me over two months to scraper Poner because of this.
>>42779680Yes, that was the reason for that report.>>42779767Sounds like a bug in your code, but I'd need to see it to be sure.Speaking of which, I've published the code for the new Twibooru scraper/booru monitor - one can find it here if they are so interested: https://github.com/Twibooru/nuboorumonWhy is it in C#? I don't know, I was probably drunk when I wrote it and opened my C# IDE instead of my Python editor.
Why not?
>>42780264>Sounds like a bug in your code, but I'd need to see it to be sure.https://pastebin.com/rQvg4BBe
>>42780336I'll have a look in the morning, thanks anon!>>42780330Because comments on Twibooru are for discussion about the image itself, not unrelated BS. There's a reason we don't have forums.
>>42780330There's a reason why everyone is anonymous and there's barely any comments thereyou could always go to ponerpics though
>>42780357>I'll have a look in the morning Neat. Do note that the standard scraping rate is quite quick as I was trying to get through as many images as I could while I was actively sitting at my computer and keeping an eye on it. The delay was initially longer, but I lowered it when I realized the rate didn't seem to have any impact on the error.
>>42780357>Because comments on Twibooru are for discussion about the image itself, not unrelated BS.Lolhttps://twibooru.org/3591399Kekhttps://twibooru.org/3513000Lmaohttps://twibooru.org/3638820https://twibooru.org/3637396https://twibooru.org/3636404https://twibooru.org/3633221https://twibooru.org/3632004https://twibooru.org/3630949https://twibooru.org/3628373https://twibooru.org/3628168https://twibooru.org/3622645
>>42780416Ideologically charged art begets ideologically charged comments.
>>42780416>>42780424No you see that's different, when it's about people I don't like then it's fine if the comments are unrelated BS and not discussion about the image itself.
>>42780954And that's a problem because...?
>>42780961There's only a comment rule for not spamming, nothing about "unrelated to the image". It should be in the rules if it's going to be enforced and have a hidden bias.
>>42778821>>42778831Do somebody have a better quality rip than the one on bilibili?
>>42781029Those comments are not spam. Any discussion you don't like != spam.
>>42780357When are you going to import the missing poner images
>>42782651Does that really need to be done by hand?
It's time to change the Twibooru featured image once more.
>>42782812I don't think there's any person knowledgeable on bots left
>>42783003What are you talking about? Floorb posts here all the time and he wrote the damn thing.
>>42783021He doesn't know how to code anymore, he gooned away all the knowledge he had.
>>42783041Must be, else he wouldn't be coding in C#.
>>42762946I live underneath a rock. Is rainbooru.org kill? QRD?
>>42781905Critical reading comprehension fail there, anon. Floorb is banning commenting on certain topics citing a rule that doesn't exist that would also apply to the comments linked, nobody said any of them are spam.
>>42783056Died offscreen
>>42783124Technically he didn't ban anything, he just asked nicely to move the discussion somewhere else.
>>42783131>he just asked nicelyHow's that boot taste?
>>42783137Stop projecting your fetishes onto others.
>>42783124Nothing has been banned. Off-topic threads have always been heavily discouraged. It's why we don't have forums. I don't want the comments section to turn into the cesspit that is other sites' forums. I don't read every comment. This particular thread kept popping up in recent comments so I actually looked at it and asked people to move it elsewhere, which I've been occasionally doing since at least 4 years ago.
>>42783041>>42783049>Must be, else he wouldn't be coding in C#.100% true, Floorb-approved facts.>>42782651When I have the time to do it. >>42780376I couldn't find anything obviously wrong with your code in the quick look I had today. When you said it works after you restart it, did you mean immediately or after waiting awhile?
>>42783190>I don't want the comments section to turn into the cesspit that is other sites' forums.It's already like 50% /pol/-tier tranny shitposting.
>>42783197I sometimes make a comment related to an image but the only one who ever replies is the 2500-posts guy (I can tell because it's always the same writing style).
>>42783195>I couldn't find anything obviously wrong with your code in the quick look I had today. When you said it works after you restart it, did you mean immediately or after waiting awhile?I mean I can kill the script the instant after it gets the error, immediately restart it and the error would go away. However, no amount of automated retrying would fix it.
>>42783195>>42783221Just did some testing to see what the error was and if it still happens. The error still happens and it is error 520, which sounds like it's something on PonerPic's side?
>>42783195>When I have the time to do it.
>>42783197By the stats that were posting I'm guessing the /pol/troon shit is being posted by the top 10 or 20 commenters almost exclusively.Why even bother having the comments on? I only even remember they are there when I get a notification for a comment posted on an image I uploaded despite having comments disabled.
>>42782962Suggestions? I tried to find a good one the other day but ended up just mentally gooning to Twilight
>>42785001Any picture of Twilight stuffing her fat face for Thanksgiving should do.
>>42784529There's a useful comment occasionally. Most people seem to just use it to complain about images they don't like though. The price to pay for freedom of speech.
>>42785826Is the occasional constructive criticism worth the constant, guaranteed whining and drama?
>>42786289Are we talking about twibooru or /mlp/ here?
Is there a booru for only ai generated content?
>>42786571tantabus.ai
>>42786571Tantabus if you only want a booru for it and don't mind the Same Usual Crowd with a hateboner for it running the joint.
>>42786289Yes.
>>42786547I mean, that's kind of the point of /mlp/, I come here for dramaI go toTwibooru for cute pony pics, not drama
>>42787302>I mean, that's kind of the point of /mlp/, I come here for dramaKill yourself.
>>42787302Then turn the comments off. Problem solved.
Is it possible to search desuarchive beyond 5k results?
>>42787616Not as far as I know. You'd have to alter your search parameters.
>>42787775I need the results. It's for archiving purposes.To be more specific, I need all the derpy.me links. I have a dump which was posted here earlier, but I need the ones which were actually posted here.
>>42785637Even if it's ai generated?
>>42787853I have no idea what else might help, sorry.Maybe someone else knows.
Is mulpwiki.batpony.party fukken dead?I've been getting 504s (gateway time-out) all day.
>>42788460The what?
>>42788460>add site to the OP>it immediately goes downMust be my bad Jew-ju.
Ponerporter!
>>42789707Been a while.
Does nextchan admin lurk here? Or did he die off-screen?
>>42789346Any update on that?
>>42791774Seems like it's back up now.
>>42791781thank god.
>>42792402There's no need to use profanity.
Ponepaste down?
>>42792964Yeah, looks like it.
>>42792964Fixed for now. I'll keep an eye on it. It looks like PHP ran out of memory and crashed, which should not happen.
>>42788460It does that sometimes, I don't know why. Maybe I should loosen the RAM restrictions a bit. Anyway it's back now.
>>42793186Thanks!
>twibooru trending section is 3/4 AI>ponerpics trending section is 1/2 EqGWhich is worse?
>>42795876>trending sectionUse case?
>>42770776what are you talking about and what's wrong with jailbait scootaloo ai?
>>42795956Absolutely nothing.
>>42795956>he doesn't know
>>42795876Ponybooru is the only way.
>>42795876Derpibooru. The answer is always Derpibooru.
In lieu of another empty bump, allow me to pose a question: What internet service most desperately needs a pony alternative?
>>42800860Pony search engine? Pony themed weather service? Pony datacenter?
>>42800860Image board. None of the alternatives are good. NHNB is a purity spiral, /mlpol/ is politurd crap. Need a place that allows everything /mlp/ does (yes, including EqG - just put it on a separate board) just without faggot moderation.
>>42802143Please, define a "good imageboard".>without faggot moderationNot possible by design. Imageboard is a site which you can just open and start talking with people. No reputation checks to filter out shitposters. Else you'll get a forum, a curated chat. Or a "rulecucked" "purity spiral". After some time fighting with indesirable users any moderation will become "faggot". It's been like this for more than a decade, another "good" imageboard gets created by people who got fed up with a previous one. Without faggot mods, gay rules, and with blackjack and hookers. But after a short while it becomes the same place everybody left, everyone keeps stepping on the same rake, over and over again. Bleeding users all the time. Imageboards are an evolutionary dead end of the places to have a discussion with other people on the internet.I'm not an oldfag, yet I've witnessed this happen with a couple imageboards I'm not going to name. I've talked with actual oldfags and they generally agree. Everything you don't like about 4chan will arise again an again on any imageboard with time, like mushrooms after the rain until it dies. Poltards, shitposters, spammers, baiters, retards, everything that cannot be filtered in a "good" way on an imageboard. By design.Nobody even needs it, people here are talking all the time how they only keep coming to this site because it's not dead yet, and if it were to die they'd rather go to twitter/discord/other small groups and chats. There you can filter out cancer. On imageboards you can't. You can only make another one when the previous becomes too stitted up to use. But that always leads to userbase fragmentation, thus imageboards are a dead end.Don't try make a "good" imageboard. It's not possible. Try to make a place to have a good time and fun for a little while, and you may succeed. Just keep in mind that it'll inevitably become "bad", attract cancer and people will start complaining about everything you've done. Kill it with grace and let someone else continue the ride.
>>42802269How does Zuckerberg's cock taste?
>>42802349Huh? Who?
>>42802269NTA but>If it were to die they'd rather go to twitter/discord/other small groups and chats. There you can filter out cancer. these aren't equivalent to imageboards, its just a friend group circlejerk, its pretty depressing actuallypiss off one individual with power, and they'll b& you over something mundane (like liking fillies), they're more cancerous then anything.
>>42802593>these aren't equivalent to imageboardsTrue.>they're more cancerous then anythingThat's the point. Cancer lives by design as long as lives the host. It's inevitable. You can either keep switching hosts when they die from cancer, or become one with it.
Cbattard hit PB again- at least this time he threw in something spicier this time, with a little bit of gore spam.>>42800860MARE communications protocol when?
>>42802859Can't wait for him to resort to CP posting.
>>42802269I can't think of an alternative that would encourage mass surveillance and personalized brainwashing less than a dynamic environment of short-lasting imageboards. Why do you think of it as a dead end? If there is any future, that's its starting point.
What drama is happening this time?
>>42800860I guess a backup option for Ponepaste would be good. The site is stable at the moment, but you'll never know what may happen in the future.
>>42800860A desuarchive alternative for only /mlp/
>>42805201
>>42806250There's nothing worth archiving on this board anymore. Greens are super rare nowadays and anything worthwhile is normally already submitted to Ponepaste. Images are nothing but reposts of reposts or AI slop. And even if Desuarchive disappears there's still abc (even if it doesn't archive full images). Hosting a 4chan archive is a huge amount of work because of the amount of abuse made possible thanks to a certain site with little added benefit for the community.If anything, it's likely more useful to host an archiver for the altchans that have MLP-oriented boards.
>>42806866What are you doing here then? GTFO.
>>42800860>matrix chat instance that isn't permadedRIP forever, mlp dot chat.
>>42806866>altchans that have MLP-oriented boardsIs that even a thing?
>>42806997Because the ephemeral discussion here (and the shitposting) is still okay(ish). But none of that is worth archiving.
>>42806866I would love to see an archive for the other pony boards.
>>42806866You never know, a resurgence could still happen.
>>42807273At least I reclaimed the domain
Can't access any of the alt-boorus due to all of them routing UNENCRYPTED traffic through world-wide monopoly, which is down right now.
>>42809194Except ponybooru
>>42809194It prevented me from posting here as well though. How did you do it?
>>42809365I dunno, for some reason 4chan was fine for me.
>>42808620You are not worth the oxygen you consume.
>>42809660Seethe more.
>>42809194I'm glad this happened. At least it has highlighted to the normies that relying on a single huge infrastructure makes the entire internet incredibly fragile. Not that anything is going to change, of course.
>>42809194Suggest a better option that can protect against large volumetric attacks as well as application-layer attacks for free.
>>42810260Like a bigger half of the sites didn't go down. It's not like they're all made by mega-corporations. So it's not a "gotcha" you think it is.
>>42811010I only speak English.
>>42811013I don't think you do.
Any news recently?
>>42811864Is he? I hadn't noticed.
pumping
>>42800860Pony themed reverse proxy.
>>42801015>Pony datacenter?Networked horses!
>>42813832I mean, I always said that if I made Mareflare as a Cloudflare alternative for Twibooru, I'd let other people proxy their sites through it too.
>>42814497>Mareflare as a Cloudflare alternative for TwibooruWhat a dick move.
>>42812942doing my part
>>42812942That's what I'm sayin'.
Is ponepaste broke again?
>>42816667Yeah, disk filled up - I freed up some space.
>>42816791>disk filled upBecause of a bunch of text files?
>>42817869Nah, during a MySQL upgrade I forgot one of the steps, and the syslog was being filled up with dozens of error messages per second. Over the course of a year it adds up.
>>42818253That must've been an absolutely gargantuan log file.
>>42818696We're all about gargantuan logs here.
pone.rs fag if you're here the sharex custom upload file doesn't work.I already verified my files in steam"object reference not set to an instance of a object"
>>42819048>>42819058See >>42815708
>>42819064Updated the config, it should work now.https://u.pone.rs/pone.rs.sxcu
>>42819066Not true, I haven't cleared my cookies literally in over a year. It's just 4chan being retarded thinking they can fight the proxy site by banning genuine, legitimate large-scale ISPs like my own, literally one of the biggest providers of my country.Only very few genuine posters (and a slew of people who want to shit up the site) are willing to post using the proxy site when their ISP is banned, either because they don't know about it, consider it a hassle or because they don't trust it considering the authors are legit pedos. 4chan is basically killing their entire user base by doing this, but then again I don't expect this site to be alive for many more years anyway. It doesn't work as a honeypot for "extreme right" political views anymore now that the proxy site exists. Country flags on /pol/ have become meaningless, for example.
>>42819334Have you read rapeape's twitter? The rat is already trying to flee the sinking ship by begging tech companies to hire him like a pathetic jeet. They know, they don't care. They never cared about the site in the first place.
Someone graciously donated 86 dollaridoos over Monero. Now only missing 95.7% for a new server with more than 200TB of storage.
>>42819334>because they don't trust it considering the authors are legit pedosI mean you don't really have to. You can use it from tor even with cookies disabled making it practically impossible to stalk you. As long as you don't post anything that can be traced to your accounts anywhere or you irl. So basically small chatting-like discussions and shitposting. But if you're already this paranoid you probably wouldn't be using glowchan in the first place.
>>42819388I'm not one of the paranoid people, I just use it without going through Tor first since I'm not posting anything publicly identifiable anyway nor anything illegal or even rule-breaking. I'm just using it because 4chan mods are ultra-faggots. Just saying that a lot of people will not use it for the reason I stated.
>>42819563>use it without going through Tor firstI'd counsel caution against deanonymizing yourself, but the sad truth is that 4chinz was never anonymous to begin with. In doing as you do, you're essentially shifting your trust from R(ape^2) to the guys painting a target on his back.
>>42820290It's a choice between using glowie site A or using glowie site B to post on glowie site A.
>>42819334>>42819363That doesn't bode well at all.
Someone's saltylollmaoI dont even care
Any good news lately?
>>42821679An EqG-loving tag vandal has been dealt swift justice after preying on pony pictures.
>>42819156it works now thanks anon!
>>42822469>every horse video taken from this angle reminds me of _that_ videoMan..
>>42821820How so?
>>42824292A single [explicit] to [questionable] change uncovered seven months of bogus tag edits to be reversed, followed by a millenial ban. Might lack the flare of a crucifixion, but that's as good as it gets around here.
>>42824381>followed by a millenial banWhy so harsh. Will you send me to the moon too if it so happens that I've been doing bad tag edits too without realizing it.
>>42824391If all you've done since signing up is cause trouble, your outcome will be far less favorable than someone with even the tiniest bit of constructive behavior on record.
>>42824381I've also noticed there's multiple uploads by some people of pictures filled with tons of nonsense tags. One showed up in the recent comments list yesterday I think. Annoying because you can't just revert the tag changes since there's no history since all tags come from the uploader. You should just ban these kind of "contributors" though, especially since the images are just clips or screenshots or other garbage that is already available.
Why did Boxless delete a picture of Diamond Tiara (that just so happened to be lolicon again)?
>>42824575Why are you trying to pass off this butterfly brunette as a filly, Mr. Threadschizo Sir?
>>42824589How am I supposed to know that's what's in the image (if it even was)? It's not like I could check what it was on Derpibooru. Don't fault me for not trusting a person that deleted content they didn't personally like before.
Didn't Talk to Twifag Award
>>42824589Alright, he gets a pass. THIS TIME. But I'm still watching.
>>42824559Are they the same kind of nonsense tags like what show up on images like this? https://ponybooru.org/images/3864023
>>42825619That link (or rather the site) is giving me error 503 messages.
>>42826254Works for me. Do you see the ddos protection thing?
>>42826264Yeah and it will ALWAYS give a 503 error when automatically refreshing. I reported this weeks ago. Fix your goddamn site already.
>>42826275What browser are you using?
>>42826280Doesn't matter. Happens on Firefox and on my father's Chromebook too. Manually refreshing afterwards fixes it, so maybe you just need to implement a short delay between the check and the automatic refresh?
>>42826292>making your dad use zizzybooruI'm pretty sure that qualifies as elder abuse.
>>42826280Same as the other Anon, happens on Firefox.
>>42826292>>42826697Dunno, works for me on Tor Browser both on desktop and mobile.
>>42824423Why do a thousand year ban when you can educate them and they'll probably stop? This is derpi mod behavior
>>42826280Same thing happens to me, chrome on Android
>>42826734Are you for real defending a barbiefag here?
>>42826747>ignore the content of the criticism Another derpi mod tactic
>>42826788Meds.
>>42826280Seems to be popping up every time when the DDOS thing is triggered for some reason. Maybe it has something to do with me never saving any cookies.
>>42826734Because retards like that never learn and just get extremely butthurt and double down when you tell them off.Also barbiefags aren't human and deserve to be ostracized.
>>42826734>when you can educate them and they'll probably stopDid it work on you?
>>42826734>he actually thinks that kind of person is capable of learning a lesson
>>42824589Cockless has a track record of deleting things the rules explicitly allow while allowing things that have no relation to pony. No amount of calling everyone who speaks about it a pedo or a schizo will change that objective fact. Even if in this specific scenario, he actually deleted something that doesn't belong on twibooru, that doesn't mean his every action remains under scrutiny. Why are you simping so hard in defense?
>>42827345derpi mod mindset At least give people a single chance to learn, that's all I'm saying
>>42826734>This is derpi mod behaviorIt's not. Derpi mods gaslight and flipflop until they finally ban you for having the 'wrong' opinion.
>>42827646>just the fact he murdered someone doesn't make him immoral>give him a chance to learn, it's just one human life
>>42829441Some people still believe in good things, Anon.
>>42829452And some people thought putting the insane and retarded in asylums was a bad thing, allowing them to roam free and fuck things up for everyone else. Foolishness.Are you the spammer who got banned? I can't see any other reason for you to go to bat in his defense this hard.
>>42829569But anon, deliberately fucking with hundreds of tags is just his way to call out for help. He's just a poor tortured soul, he needs to be educated, not punished.
>>42829569Nope. Yet you can say I'm one of the>insane and retardedwho would've been better left alone to rot in a some faraway place.>>42829591You can't fix a weed. You remove them, preferably using napalm. Defective and wrenched souls go to hell, like god intended. What makes you think demons wearing human skin can be educated and taught to be nice?
This conversation is hilarious with context, but I'm not going to give it and people will just have to guess.In thread-related news I can confirm Ponerpics has at least one active mod somewhere, though, so that's nice.
>>42829614I don't need no context to have an argument on 4chan. That's the whole point.
>try to upload picture to twibooru>OOPS YOU FORGOT A RATING TAG>add the rating tag and resubmit>the image is visibly still part of the form>OOPS YOU DIDN'T ATTACH AN IMAGE???
>>42829951Another annoying thing is solving the Craptcha in advance and then when you finish adding all the tags it tells you you didn't complete it or something to that effect. I understand this is probably by design because it can probably be abused in some way though, but it's still annoying when you don't know about it.
>>42829951Skill issue.>>42829984Make an account.
>>42830271Yeah, skill issue on behalf of the devs.
>>42830279Our head homo is in her filly arc, please understandu.
>>42830271>Make an account.Right after I verify my email address to 4chan.
>>42831097>Please note that no verification of e-mail addresses is performed, so if you expect password resets to work, you will need to make extra sure you use a valid e-mail address here!You don't need a real email address there.
>>42829614>I can confirm Ponerpics has at least one active mod somewhereWhat happened?
>>42831258A report actually had something happen.
>>42831108I guess you're talking about Twibooru? I don't want to make an account anywhere if I can help it. The Craptcha isn't really a problem for me in general, it's just annoying when you don't yet know it'll time out if you don't do it last. 4chan Craptcha also times out but at least it updates itself accordingly. tl;dr: Fix your site.
>>42831369patches welcome
>>42831482>>42831369https://git.twibooru.org
>>42831482Why would I? You're planning to close it off anyway.>I have not released this code because I want to, only because I respect two particular individuals who have asked me to. Once I complete a rewrite of this code to the point where it is entirely my property, it will no longer be available in this form or under this license!Unless you want to release it under an even more permissive license, I guess.
>>42831495>only meaningful semi-recent commits are features added to reduce abuse
>>42831497>Unless you want to release it under an even more permissive license, I guess.that's the plan
>>42831537Two more weeks.
>>42831541two more decades
>>42831544By the way what's the use case for keeping login ip history forever?
>>42831546abuse prevention, mainly - I have either considered, or actually done, manually deleting stuff older than a year in the past, because the data's usability definitely degrades with time.
>>42831537>putting in years of work so you can release the code under a cuck license
>>42831585>>42829452
>>42831537Okay, that's... well, it's not my choice because >>42831585 but it's better than making it closed at least.
>>42831495What the fuck kind of ghastly programming language is that???
robots.txt:>Disallow: /harming/humans>Disallow: /ignoring/human/orders>Disallow: /harm/to/selfSome sort of joke?
>>42832168Ruby on rails or something.>>42832175There're a lot of silly things/ jokes in the code. Can you find them all? ^;)
>abortion milk debateThank you twibooru, very cool.https://twibooru.org/2740213
>>42834563I'm not even going to bother reading any of that discussion. Someone trying to push abortion propaganda with ponies deserves nothing more than complete dismissal. It is the lowest of low behavior.
>>42835085Sounds like grade a bait material.
desuarchive is kil
>>42837238WOMM
>>42837238Works on my machine (TM).
>>42837243>>42838139I got a host is not reachable cloudflare page. Now it works.
>>42838147>Now it works.And I get host errors now.
Where do mares post?
>>42839734In the post office.
>>42832208>Can you find them all? ^;)I would look, but I'm a codelet and only have rudimentary understanding of a handful of languages. What kind of language is Ruby on rails anyway? Why even code in that, just to be different? What's the usecase?
>>42840290>Ruby on Rails' emergence in 2005 greatly influenced web app development, through innovative features such as seamless database table creations, migrations, and scaffolding of views to enable rapid application development. Ruby on Rails' influence on other web frameworks remains apparent today, with many frameworks in other languages borrowing its ideas, including Django in Python; Catalyst in Perl; Laravel, CakePHP and Yii in PHP; Grails in Groovy; Phoenix in Elixir; Play in Scala; and Sails.js in Node.js.>Well-known sites that use Ruby on Rails include Airbnb, Archive of Our Own, Crunchbase, Dribbble, GitHub, Twitch and Shopify. it was just the gold standard at the time, it only gets better with time toowhat would you use?
>>42840312WebAssembly, of course ^:)
>>42837238They have networking issues. Their site pops in and out at the moment.
>>42837238>>42841843Only archive that has /mlp/ with search, everybody.
>>42844982Only alternative would be to make another yourself.
>wetmares.org is downreeeeeee>>42808856G6 will bring new life to the fandomTRUST THE PLAN
>>42845313>>wetmares.org is downFUCK domain doesn't even have A recordsanon who hosted the site should drop the domain if he's no longer interested in hosting pic rel desu
>>42845313>G6 will bring new life to the fandomTo quote a certain Unicorn, when pigs fly.
>>42845090Except we can't. Desu does not provide any archive which we could start from.
>>42845543>To quote a certain Unicorn, when pigs fly.pic rel
>>42846076Which is reasonable, they'd be shut down immediately for "spreading CSAM", especially since they're a high profile target for miscreants for archiving data from "right-wing extremist sites like 4chan".
>>42846380How would providing a database download be any more illegal than letting people look up whatever they please on the website? They already nuke anything even remotely illegal, DMCA included.
>>42846490Because making it available in the database means it will be downloaded by people not actually looking for it, while people searching for it would specifically be looking it up, which is illegal in most countries. If you don't like it, start volunteering to scrub the database of that filth, society is not going to budge on this matter.
>>42846076it's on the web. you can scrape it.
>>42846695It probably has insane access limits, making scraping the entire database pretty much impossible.
>>42846708here's all the text up to a few weeks ago. https://archive.org/details/desuarchive_mlp_1_42799493_20251114215436it would be easy enough to do the same but for images.
>>42846712>by firlin123Isn't that the guy some schizo on the Desu ghost archive keeps spamming about?
>>42846719Yeah. It's a mystery why he's doing that though.
>>42846766Well, what confabulation drives cbat spammer? Same thing.
>>42846766He thinks he got banned by him on furpibooru.
>>42846773It's terminal retardation.
>>42847399I can't even comprehend the level of autism of these guys. I mean, I am incredibly autistic (actually score high on all aspects of the spectrum) and even I have enough sense to not act like a complete idiot like that.>terminalIf only, anon. If only.
>>42848044Many terminal conditions have depressingly long time-to-kill; why do you think MAID exists? Besides fueling the organ trade.
>>42848329>why do you think MAID exists?Because Canadians exist.
>>42846162Certified Discord moment.
>nobody's made a discord alternativeinb4 terminally online friendless autists seethe that anons who like a show about friendship are capable of social behavior
>>42850245matrixguildedfosscordwhatever teamspeak version we're on (TS5?)
>>42850245IRC. Let me guess, you need more?
>>42845321>file is corruptI know what its of but check your webm, unless the upload got borked
>>42850341WOMM
>>42850341>>42850343Works on my desktop firefox but doesn't on my phone. Weird.
>>42850360Let me guess, iPhone?
>>42850361Nope. Poordroid.
>>42850245There's multiple but nobody uses them. For some reason Matrix is the only one with any traction and it's also the one with the most broken and incompatible features that make it unusable as a direct Discord replacement for mildly privacy conscious normies.
>>42850365How odd. The file plays fine using both Chromium and Mozilla on my 'droid. Are you using some weird, out-of-date browser?
>>42850378Can't play it on up-to-date tor browser, but for some reason it works on vlc player that I haven't updated in many years.
>>42850245>wanting an alternative for cancerIRC was good enough 20 years ago, it's good enough today.
>>42850302>>42850889Yes, gramps, people want voice chat and file sharing, and screensharing. Nobody cares about outmoded garbage that has fewer features than fucking 4chan of all places.
>>42850896>file sharingI could easily do that with DCC on IRC 20 years ago, I'm pretty sure IRC nowadays is also capable of the rest (I haven't used it since that time so I wouldn't know what it's capable of today).Also, kill yourself, zoom zoom.
>>42850896>voice chathop on teamspeak, get off when youre done.>file sharingtheres literally thousands of sites you can upload a file to. IRC also had DCC.>screensharingdozens of programs for this. rustdesk is my favorite.
>>42850900Zoomer anon won't be happy until it's all molded into one neat little package for him. He probably also owns a Crapple because "it just werks".
>>42850904>>42850900>just use 30 different programs broWe had all that shit integrated with Skype. People could voice chat and shit on MSN messenger. Nboody wants to downgrade to running 30 different programs that badly do what you can get out of a single program now, with embeds and everything.
>>42850970Code bloat. There's no need for a single tool that encompasses every use case. I have no need of voice/video chat with internet strangers so I don't want my chat application to integrate those things by default.This kind of garbage leads to me having several applications that do many things (poorly at that) that I don't use besides the thing that I actually downloaded the program for. For example, Thunderbird having a chat client that I don't use (and I never heard of anyone else using it either) or Opera (I don't use it but I remember the debacle at the time) integrating an incredibly barebones torrent client.
>>42850985That's cool and all, but why are you even posting here? Nobody gives a shit if YOU don't want things when the topic of discussion is someone else wanting those things. I and many others want a discord alternative without dogshit global TOS and aislop moderation, and that includes the features people enjoy using. Nowhere in this is there a use case for "well I'm an autistic faggot and don't want to screenshare or own a webcam so nobody in the world should ever want that".
>>42850994>I and many others want a discord alternativeOkay. Go ahead and make one then.
>>42850985The Unix philosophy, while certainly admirable, isn't in line with how most people use the internet nowadays. A jack-of-all-trades will always be more popular than a master of one.>Thunderbird having too many featuresIronic, considering how Pozilla stripped out Firefox's integrated RSS reader.
>>42850994you're right, my toaster should also be a blender and a coffee maker and a water dispenser and a car jumpstarter that also sends everything i do in all of those categories directly to xi jinping, just because it's easier for some autists who aren't capable of managing more than one kitchen appliance. makes perfect sense.
>>42850999Not my responsibility. >>42851175>food analogyFunny how there exist applications right now that combine text chat, file sharing, file EMBEDDING, screensharing, video chat, and voice chat, and do it perfectly fine with the only remaining issue being hosted centrally with a shitty TOS, and you're here pretending it's an impossible zoomer feat and that everyone should just independently install and set up 30 separate one-trick ponies instead. I'll bet you run linux and don't have a job or hobbies either.
>>42851186>Not my responsibility.Then who is responsible?
>>42851132>Ironic, considering how Pozilla stripped out Firefox's integrated RSS reader.And FTP client.
>>42851404Anyone but the zoomer, evidently. They can't even handle the responsibility of wiping their own arse after all.
What places in Equestria would be best to host a server?
>>42851931Frozen North. Makes it easier to cool the hardware.
>>42852046>snowponies trot around North Pone>one day, they discover a place where snow on the ground melts for some reason>great debate>later, this is escalated to a Friendship Problem>upon further inspection by M6 and the best princesses, they discover an anon in a cave>[put a funny reason to send anon away years ago here]
>>42852394>>[put a funny reason to send anon away years ago here]Tax evasion
>>42852401>there is a HTTP request tax>by royal decree, each of them should have a header with hoofbump>anon secretly really despises hoovesMaybe it was for the best.
>>42852507>>there is a HTTP request taxgood thing Anon uses HTTPS>>anon secretly really despises hoovesdash rel
>>42851459You've got another decade before you can start whining about 34 year old zoomers, dipshit. I don't know what mental illness drives your type to think the customer of a desired product has to be the developer, designer, tester, architect, and salesman of said desired product. >derpi shits itself>4 boorus get spun up>youtube shits itself>ponytube gets spun up>twitter shits itself>pone.social gets spun up>discord shits itself>DUHHH ZOOMIE???? ZOOOM ZOOM ZOOMIE!!!! ZOOMER! zOOmER *makes a tamers reference in his pants* just use irc bro socialization is for zzO0000000000000mies
>>42852729pone.social uses Mastodon. From the same person there was a Matrix server, but some retards posted cp so the domain got taken down
>>42852729>ponytube gets spun upnobody uses it except for archiving some board-related videos>pone.social gets spun upnobody uses it except a few autistic retards talking into the void>discord shits itselfby the same metric there are multiple matrix channels generally unused except for a handful of autists talking into the voidyou can go use them if you like that kind of stuff
>>42852755>nobody uses themBecause you're stupid and keep using the garbage you hate.
>>42852729Not any anon in this discussion, but I feel like "Discord replacement" that is as featureful, can be depended on and is globally interconnected so that everyone can talk to everyone else, is more difficult to achieve. Not to ignore the effort required, but boorus? Web photo gallery. PonyTube? Web video gallery. pone.social? Microblog with federation that's more or less expected to work well (I don't know if users there talk only to other pone.social users or if they do branch out).There are "Discord clones" like Spacebar, Revolt and probably a few more, but majority of them seem to miss the point of "global reach". Like sure, I could host a Nextcloud Talk or Zulip instance, but I think nobody would want to create an account on specific instance to talk to people there. I'd need to have a good reason to convince those people to go through this effort - two cases I've seen this work are: company chat servers where each employee gets an account, and private trackers where people will figure out how to use an IRC client to chat with others, incentivized by possible rank-up so they can see recruitment threads to other trackers. 'sup GGn.But I digress. I believe people expect chat tools/platforms to be just as good as Discord at everything, and at this point either you pull funding out of somewhere and create yet another global platform (and never get burned by VC funding causing you to do enshittification on your platform), or you attempt to separate your funds from the success of your platform as a whole. I think sensible federation is the only way to achieve the latter, to offload hosting costs to passionate fans of your protocol.It's a difficult problem to solve, especially since the communication is supposed to be as instant as on centralized platforms. Matrix takes an arguably heavy approach to this, but it's permanently in a "two more weeks" state IMO. XMPP to my knowledge doesn't offer truly decentralized group chats, which might be important or not. And all of those cool "selfhosted Discords" without federation I saw, expect you to convince everyone you'd like to talk with to create an account on (You)r server.I forgot what I wanted to say with this post. Maybe that we've got three options:>doing this "better" as global service, operated by one entity will require too much money to avoid the service becoming worse when you run out of money>doing this small scale, centralized around specific communities will introduce enough friction that most people won't bother to use it>doing this as a bunch of bigger or smaller interconnected instances that allow everyone to talk to everypony, will require a lot more time to do properly, but might be eventually a viable solution that will be "better" than Discord, and will not have a necessary downfallI calmly hope Matrix gets better, and that's where I'd direct your attention and time if you can contribute it. I don't feel other projects aim at the right problem.
>>42852766Oh, and please excuse me repeating myself in that post. I hope some of the insight is helpful. Surely it's not any anon's responsibility to fix global problems, but we can find other people who already work on solutions, and contribute if we have free time, putting a bit of pony soul in those projects.I'd also suggest avoiding ragebait, since for some reason it's too easy to fall into those when talking about chat tools. The inherent network effect of those, combined with human laziness, can make a person treat their set of chat platforms as part of their identity. Maybe that's why there's so many blog posts bashing Matrix about being "bloat", and praising the lightweight XMPP as if Matrix was attempting to solve the exact same problem as XMPP, and thus being a bunch of retards reinventing the wheel. It's more nuanced than that, hopefully you can find someone on the internet with a better explanation than whatever I can recall right now. The multi user chat rooms were the difference most important to me, and I believe that most people would also expect this graceful degradation rather than chatroom being entirely unavailable if a janny pony tripped over the power cable.So the protocol that does message passing can be relatively easy to federate between servers controlled by many separate entities, but a distributed, eventually consistent database of messages has a lot of complexity involved if you don't control all the servers. And a database of messages governed by one entity obviously is easier to implement with high reliability and large featureset that people expect.
>>42852755>nobody uses itI believe some education is needed to get average person to not be afraid of less obvious services. As you've seen so far I approached the problem with chat from technical view: it's less stable/more barebones than the "big" alternatives, and here's why. But obviously there's that human aspect of laziness, which I can understand.Imagine if the YouTube, Twitter suddenly included content from PonyTube and pone.social. Would you still say nobody uses those pony platforms? Comparing numbers - I would. But would that be important, as long as people on other service could see videos uploaded, and drawfags drawings? I wouldn't say that PonyTube/pone.social were unused and useless in this scenario.But perhaps we're talking about different problems to solve (is that more or less intentional "moving of goalposts?"). The tools are there, I believe Mastodon is mostly capable of being a decent platform (truth be told I don't use microblogs), PeerTube is more than sufficient as video hosting site, although discoverability of content might suck more than on YT. If you want to validate the existence of those pony services, do you simply need more people to be in touch with them? Or instead of me assuming, what is the exact problem with those services that you'd like to solve?>>42852760I wouldn't blame anon to that extent. YT, Twitter, Discord all have the power of network effect behind them - you'd need everyone you interact with to move to the other platforms, if you wanted to effortlessly stop using the platforms you consider bad. It's a slow process, and requires minimal friction to switch. I believe this means you'd need to find a way to integrate with the lesser platforms, e.g. in case of Matrix to set up bridges between pony guilds on Discord side and equivalent spaces on Matrix. So that people can have the option to slowly move, and not lose contact with other users or the content over there.I believe this can be done in a longer time frame, as all huge services inevitably march towards squeezing their users for shareholder/corporate profit, but you can't let yourself fall into the hole of cynicism in the progress.
>>42850245>discord alternativeOh hello there gen alpha newfag. You were probably born after discord was released. Oh sweet summer child.
pone.rs admin... catbox's litterbox AND ponut.space is down. I want a way to transfer a file easily that has a time out function. Can you implement something like that on your service?
>>42853477>litterboxDon't tell me the sharty hit it again. As if attacking the site for having anime girl mascots wasn't bad enough.
>>42853540>shartyLiterally skiddies. I doubt they have the capacity to take any site down (remember the 4chan hack did NOT come from them).
>>42853546Anon, it's not a matter of ddos. They run campaigns spamming illegal content on sites and reporting them to their registrars, to cloudflare, and to anything involved in funding and payment processing.
>>42853550And they use Tor exit nodes for this, I assume? Otherwise just log the IP, report it to the relevant three-letter agency for distributing CP.
>>42853550>>42853599what blows is that it's not even the shartards, they're getting hit by the same gay kiddie-fucker as us.His only goal is to kill PPH.
>>42853627>His only goal is to kill PPH.Source?
>>42853737Shartards, Jannies (trust me bro), and the slobbermutt.Also the pedophile's own facehole, albeit in text form, apparently.
>>42853752Lol and I thought it's glowniggers and jews who are spamming cp to kill small websites and imageboards.>source/pol/ said so thoughever
>>42853761I would believe it, but I'm just as ready to believe a single utter autist would be dedicated enough to do something like this. Kimmo, cbat spammer and many others over the years have proven to me a single dedicated parasite can be more tenacious than all government agencies combined.
>>42852394>>>/fur/
>>42853799To be fair, the glowies are complicit at this point with the report volume against him.
>>42853819IIRC he got a letter from them in june for allowing posting "sfw" child models on his site, he just banned it and they never bothered him again. Really makes you think.
> https://twibooru.org/3655824> This post has been deleted> Reason: Rule #2: Image not MLP related (pony related exists elsewhere)> https://twibooru.org/3579043> is upWhat's the difference? Seems like it's the same image, the characters are just shuffled around. Like half of them are furries, but still there are mlp villians too so, why?
>>42854730>pony related exists elsewherecongrats you found elsewhere
>>42854754I opened the deleted image on derpi and literally can't see any meaningful difference between them??
>>42853477>ponut.spacenever heard about itI guess people don't like their ponies to disappear
>>42854758I suspect the rationale is exactly that: the only difference between the two images is the character drawings being rearranged according to a different autistic organization scheme. Though if this is considered a duplicate, merging would have been a more fitting solution.
>>42830291indeed, this is true and honest news, i am tired of pretending:i, floorb, now identify as anon filly. i was always filly but i refused to publicly admit it until now. after much introspection i am now in the process of fillymaxxing my life back on track. i will only respond positively to filly based pronouns and names such as anon, filly, filler, anonfilly, filly anon, and other such names. i am not a fucking tranny nor a furfag, i never was and i never will be. i am literally a green filly. preemptively, i wnbaw because i am already a green horse and nothing else. end of story.i do not anticipate my fillyness to affect my fan site management duties, truthfully i only expect it to enhance them, as it takes an autist to know one. i have been fillymaxxing for weeks now and nopony knew until now.i am working on a filly based fan site for anons to learn about fillymaxxing and meet other fillys, and i am open to suggestions on what to include. i already have a fillymaxxing tutorial, diy guides for things like filly ears and tails, a filly guest book, etc.
>>42856640Have you changed your diet to oats and hay yet?
>>42856668i'm on the fallout mare diet, i only eat things that are analogues of things you could find in fallout: equestria. that includes a surprising amount of oats.
>>42856640>bla bla bla blaSHUT UP AND CODE THE FUCKING FEATURE YOU CIGARETTE
>>42856704its hard to code with hooves. but i try.
>>42856640Cringe.
>>42856640better than being a stallionfag, at least
>>42857052What's wrong with stallions?
>>42857370They're not mares.
Never had a chance to ask, but which booru has the most all encompassing content? Would it be correct to say that there's at least some unique images/videos in every booru?
>>42857449Twibooru should have almost all of it, and the combination of twibooru and ponerpics likely has almost certainly everything.There are indeed some differences but they should be very minor. If something is on one altbooru but not another, it's probably because an importer might have been briefly broken and then didn't backfill reliably, or sometimes there are minor differences in moderation deleting some basically non-pony-related furshit pics that got imported from derpibooru.Ponybooru is the exception because it has some limited artist takedown capabilities so technically it may intentionally have fewer images than the other two.
>>42857679That's good to know. Thanks for the explanation!
>>42857679Keep in mind that Poner doesn't support mp4s, so nothing in that format would be imported.
>>42856617So it's>this specific arrangement triggered boxless (then he went back to gooning to obese anthro scolipedes)
Rainbooru is coming in two weeks, right?
>>42858420I think the def has gone AWOL for good.
>>42858189To be more precise, MP4s are imported as WebMs:https://twibooru.org/3433884https://ponerpics.org/images/7154324
>report a cross-site spammer on Ponybooru>site goes down the very next minuteMy bad juju knows no bounds.
>>42859164Its not limited to one site.Use your new power with restraint, please.
>>42859176Is it time to panic yet?
I'm not sure if anyone's aware already, but I think quad9 is blocking pone.rs
>>42859393Yep these fags did it again.https://quad9.net/result/?url=pone.rs
>>42766028non-english sites, i can read chinese, so it's bilibili or rednote.
>>42859393Used to be they'd respond to posts here sometimesIf not though we can just report on the website
>>42858189>>42858573why would you be afraid of H.264 licensing pricing lol?
>>42859744We're not. Unfortunately, the people behind our code are still subject to the technological tyranny of patents.
>>42859164Nah, that page just shows up every once in a while, as opposed to the regular 503 page. Not sure what causes it. I'll have to get Ziz to look into it.As for the retard you reported, I've already banned him multiple times. His first appearance was under another account three years ago. Most of the recent mass-queue deletions are actually from this guy, too.
>>42859414>DOMAINTOOLS HotlistI sure do love automated systems.
>>42860682looks like foalfetch is banned again too. i might contact domaintools directly. also i am aware the ssl cert is expired.
>>42860887>foalfetch is banned again tooOh joy.
>>42860986Why do they persecute us so?
>>42856640Can we please draw more attention to this, because what, and I cannot stress this enough, the fuck
>>42861236Because it's 2025 and we're in a subculture that to this day keeps delivering every member of the community a fresh bottle of tears every day.
>>42861281What's so strange about transitioning to a filly?
>>42861334this nonny gets it <3
>>42861281You thought we've been calling him a huge faggot as a joke?
>>42861408im not a faggot nigger i'm a fucking FILLY
>>42861412Where is your snowpity?
>>42861416it is within me, as a fily, it is small right now but it is growing, because i am a small filler
Did I jinx it? He actually trooned out. For shame.
>>42861426When will you grow up?
>>42861486That would naturally follow Fillb reaching Equestria. Just like the show remains the same though years may pass, our fillymaxxer's snowpity appears frozen in time from our perspective.
>>42861480>taking every statement seriously>even the most obvious of jokes
>>42861281>anon's first time meeting fillyschizos
>>42762946On ponepaste you can no longer easily read stories on mobile. The text dissappears to the side too much.
>>42862168just turn your phone and disable the line numbers
>>42861888Or drama stirrer. I guess the latter.
>>42862168How? Did the site receive an update?
>>42856640tl;dr
>>42857679Twibooru have holes. A lot of them. It's like swiss cheese. So your "almost" is doing A LOT of work here, considering the sheer number of missed images.
>>4286446799% of images are there. But that missing 1% is still a lot.
>>42864467Missed images, or "meets all criteria for being on the site except boxless's personal opinion"?
>>42865319You're late.
>>42865319Missed images, i.e. "Images that weren't uploaded".
>>42864467Darn, I hadn't realisedAre the porting scripts buggy? Is it mostly derpibooru uploads missing or ones from other boorus?
>>42865645Floorb claims that scripts are fixed now, but that doesn't really do anything for images that eere already skipped.
Late night bump.
Is esl stuff allowed in PonePaste?like, pastes in other languages
>>42866190i would personally say yes, as long as there's a disclaimer or something at the top in english indicating why it's pony related.
>>42866379BRB, translating The Anarchist Cookbook to Hebrew.
>>42866379I don't think there's much potential for abuse. Google Translate can turn any language into something that gives a faint clue what the text is about nowadays.
>>42867941This doesn't mean I disagree with your requirement for a disclaimer by the way. Just musing.
>>42866379>>42867944IMO a disclaimer is not going to be very useful since if you don't check it yourself, it's going to be trivial to put some bogus disclaimer that's completely unrelated to the actual textI bet you can use a local LLM for relatively effective language translation nowadays
>>42868258the point of the disclaimer is basically to flag to admins "hey, i'm not retarded or a spambot, be careful before you delete this"
>>42866549What?
>>42868258>I bet you can use a local LLM for relatively effective language translation nowadaysThat's apparently what Firefox does for offline translations. It's good enough for cheeki breeki, in my experience.
>>42862168This
>>42869947>>42862168how about stop being filthy phoneniggers?
>>42868358Might also want to automatically flag any non-English posts containing links for review by an admin, and include the requirement to add a tag like "non-english" to a paste in a foreign language.Captcha: P0RN0 (yes, really)
>>42867941>Inb4 you get vanned for translating something nasty without knowing what the fuck the text was beforehand
So is the PonyTube upgrade complete? Is everything good now?Also, has anyone heard from Lotus lately? And what is the current state of PonerPics?
>>42872738>And what is the current state of PonerPics?I guess since it's currently working without being down every five minutes and there is someone who investigates your reports, it's in a perfectly fine one.
>>42872747I had thought I heard rumor that they were planning on performing some of their own site upgrades around this time. Also Lotus hasn't responded to my messages in about a month so I wanted to make sure everything was okay over there.
>>42872738as the honest and horseful assistant sysadmin of pony.tube i can say the upgrade is complete for now. if there are any issues, please let me or twifag know.as for pone.social (i know you didnt mention it but im mentioning it), i intend to bring that up to date with latest mastodon as soon as i have the time.
>>42872765That's good to hear. Is the new system any cheaper to run than before? And how is Twifag doing?
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>>42872818i may have misspoken - the software upgrade is complete; the hardware upgrade is not, we still need to look at options for that, but it's not currently dire (at least last time i checked)twifag is good but busy, like me
>>42873828>busy, like meYour case has an extra S.
>>42873828>>42873873have you tried being slightly less gay
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>>42869056>Firefox does for offline translations.I had no idea it did that at all.
