Opinions on G1 and G2?
>>42768778G1 brings the 80s cartoon vibe, it was able to hold me better than G5. What I didn't like when the witches were in it, because they stole 90% of the run time. It is not a problem in itself, but my biggest problem with it was that this show was called My little Ponies, but I felt that in every episode ponies were side character in their own show. G2 I guess you think about the MLP tales. I admit that was so more entataining as ponies were so cringe it was ridicolous. It had some twisted moral at the end of episodes. Not as if G4 didn't have questionable ones. But that was clearly toxic when Sweetheart regularly protect Teddy when he was clearly turbo nigger and the other tell him stop being so fagget and at the end they had to say sorry to him for telling him not to be tranny. Okay, at the end he spit it out before their leg, "kay, it was a bit mine fault, too, but only a bit."So they were good as how much they didn't take themselves serious.
>>42768778If G1 (mlp tales involved) had FIM art style it would be almost as good as FIM (1-3 seasons) or as good as FIM (4-9 seasons)
>>42768778Never watched them. If there's any big fans of them looking at this thread, here's your chance to sell me on them.
>>42768778This is what I got started on as a kid (I'm ancient lol). Midnight Castle. Tirac. The OG villain. It was pretty hard core some times, then soft as a daisy at other times. In the context of 1986-88, this was on par with G4, if you look at the other cartoons done around the time of G4 and compare their complexities. The Anon that said if G1 was animated like G4, it'd be "about as good," is on the mark. Slightly updated/cleaned audio would also help.G2 was "Ponies, but teens/preteens" with school as the main social focus. It hit the mark, but Hasbro shitcanned it. It was good in the sense that it had story, progression, conclusion, and entertaining characters. Both gens FAILED to have individual ponies that really stood out like the Mane 6, or the G5 Team. I can recount Gusty, Surprise, Applejack, and Firefly from G1. G2 did better, and they even named the main girls in the opener, but the episodes were so short, character depth suffered. I recommend everyone watch Midnight Castle, at the very least, and then pick through G2 (MLP Tales) and find the good episodes that you like. Then watch any of the other G1 "specials" (multi-parters).
>>42768972>>42768835You guys are talking about G1.5, G2 only got a computer game and toys, its a real shame too, they're really pretty.
>>42768972While I agree with G1 being as good as G4 except in art style, I don't think that G1 failed to have individual ponies as much as it didn't tried to, since the show is My Little Ponies and not the mane 6 show so G1 cartoon just tells stories about different ponies that girls can expand or give their own personalities (just like Lauren Faust did with her ponies)I think it steps from general way the cartoons for girls were made in the 80's and 10 min episodes instead of 20 minutes.fun fact: FIM originally was supposed to have 10 min episodes but suddenly hasbro decided to give it full 20 minutes per episode so that's why some season 1 episodes may feel dull or stretched because they were plots created for 10 min episodes and suddenly they had to fit double this time yet FIM still managed to be good.
No, I'm not watching a show for little girls
>>42769161>dullYou mean kino?
Midnight Castle has everything. Anime inspirations so good and dramatic animation. Human in Ponyland. Pointless song meant to sell merch and introduce a deus ex machina. Spike being a useless fucking knob. The Rainbow of Fucking Darkness. An ending that implies so much that is dropped and never mentioned again even once.
>>42769456so what do you do?
>>42768778Watch the first movie and ignore the rest.
>>42768778dumb bimbonis make peepee BIG......
>>42769778watch something more mature, like G4
>>42768910G1 is a much more adventure-oriented show, with each story arc introducing new creatures and exploring just a little hint of the world's history and societies. It has a very mythological feeling to it, and it really makes you feel like they're just little ponies in a big, untamed world.Also there's at least one mare who is canonically attracted to human men.
>>42768778>current year+10>niggers still think Tales was part of G2And yeah, both are kino, too bad the actual G2 was so awfully advertised it didn't even get it's own glorified ad aka a show.
>>42770144>spoilerMares get needy in a world where stallions are absent and only return once a year.
>>42768778kino
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>>42768778>g1I liked midnight castle and the movie but the series was a bit meh, the toys had some variety but overall I only liked some of the niche stuff like so soft ponies and sweetheart sisters>g2tried to play the game but my win 98 emulator was a bit rocky, the toys are great though, I love the style and if they brought it back it would save g6 no matter how bad the companion media for it would inevitably be
>>42768901>FIM (1-3 seasons)>FIM (4-9 seasons)So... as good as FIM.
>>42770768Yeah
>>42770762>if they brought it back it would save g6 no matter how bad the companion media for it would inevitably beThis although I have hopes for G6 show.It would be kind of like watching late FIM seasons just for cute ponies and ignoring all the bad stuff.
>>42768778They definitely have snowpity if you can look past the 80s toy cartoon animation quality.
>>42768778Superior to G4
>>42768972Watched G1 few years ago. Mares in series had potential but weren't properly developed in the series. As somewhat of an exception I can name Mish Mash Melee episode (which, sadly isn't even a two-parter) centered on four ponies who ||change personalities with each other||, Crunch the Rockdog two-parter somewhat exploring character of Wind Whistler. Movie was fine, it established a few ponies with some sort of a character who appeared later in the series, Smooze was cool. Most single episodes are shit, sadly. Also Megan and her siblings look unnecessary in almost every episode. It could be more ponies, not some weird humans in shot. Same goes for elves and other bullshit humanoids in my poni-poni-poni.The sad story here is wasted potential. You look at story and think how much cooler it could have been. But there isn't even a decent amount of fanfiction about those beautiful mares.G1.5 (Tales) is fine mostly. I don't like american suburban setting for ponies, but having established and constantly reappearing charactes was a huge step forward. Stories ranged from fine to cool, and from chill to Patch steals an air baloon with Bon Bon, flies to the sea and meets fucking alicorns. P.S.: Sorry for ESL
>>42771142>Mares in series had potential but weren't properly developed in the seriesThink of G1 ponies like of FIM secondary characters or background mares where you have to fill out the blanks and treat ponies as a group and not individual characters because if you except clearly defined archetypical characters like the mane 6 you will be disappointed.Can you elaborate on most episodes being shit (bad plot, stupid characters etc.) because to me regular episodes are fine and I could see them being remade as FIM episodes.
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>>42768901Coomer detected.
>>42771933>schizo
I love 80s mares
3DPD present?
>>42768778>G2Doesn't exist in animated form.
>>42768778I love G1.5/Tales, the art style, character designs, modern setting, late 80s/early 90s aesthetics and slice of life episodes really appeal to me
>>42771242I dunno, maybe "shit" was too strong of a word. It's just that episodes like "Little Piece of Magic", "Pony Puppy" and "Sweet Stuff and the Treasure Hunt" were quite meh and didn't inspire cool idea of reinventing them in g4 style. They were more of a slice of life than adventure stories, but without somewhat defined characters slice of life episodes just ain't interesting to me. Two-parters on the other hand are fine. Most of them are at the very least okayish adventures. Some are very funny in retrospective (Woe is Me, Through the Door), some are good on their own (Crunch the Rockdog).Talking about bad characters: Megan is redundant. She could be easily replaced as some pony of authority or initiative. Same goes for Danny and Molly. Mountain Elves, Gnomes and similar creatures are too much of generic fantasy. They degenerate world that could be more unique with it's inhabitants.Btw, second season was strange. The Quest of the Princess Ponies was very interesting as lore expansion, but everything after felt very rushed. I love ideas of "The Golden Horseshoes" and "Somnambula" but they should've been a four-parters. And "Ice Cream Wars" I wish to forget of.
>>42768778Love them. Untainted by pop references and modern USA reflections. No the design isn't as cute as g4 but is still pretty dang cute. And I personally feel the specials are even better than g4. They actually look like horses in it. Not hippos.
>>42769729Midnight Castle was an amazing way to introduce little Ponies. They did a fantastic job animating. Too had Hasbro had to go and be cheap the rest of the run. >>42769825You mean the special. There was a movie. If wasn't that good.
>>42773915The shows are 2D so no.
>>42774067Yeah I understand what you mean, it was first try at MLP so they didn't exactly knew what they wanted to go for and were clearly split on many ponies/group/species as a character and individual ponies being distinguishable and being characters on their own (sort of like smurfs) and they also didn't plan out world and lore so much and therefore at times it was a DnD/magical medieval world with ponies instead of pony centric/ponies with DnD/pony world. But overall I find it good and very important mile stone that helped developing FIM so in a sense you could treat G4 as an improvement, expansion or continuation of G1 yet with it's own spin on things that was better but sometimes there were things that worked more in G1.
>>42774067Don't diss "Pony Puppy", I cried when watching that episode recently.
Faust ripped off Alicorns as well
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>>42775673>Going to sleep after bumping the thread for the night.
>>42768778Reminds me of Transformers where each pony had a gimmick, like how some bots had gimmicks based on their names. I practically watched random episodes after finding out Lord Tirek was based on Lord Tirac. The 80s-cartoon-style songs aren't really my thing, but I don't really see it as anything awful. It's just not something I'd eagerly put on in comparison to something like a G4 episode.>>42775673She looks snug
>>42774461I'll try rewatching it in my free time. Maybe I'll change my opinion.
>>42774834Faust ripped off entire "Ticket Master" from G1.5. And sometimes I even think that original was better.
>>42776592But but mommy faust invented it all come on previous generations are a lie
>>42777119Anon, Gen1 pilot is literally ponies going in dark forest and spooky castle to defeat villain who seeks to establish eternal night. They do it using magical rainbow-shooting artifact that doesn't seem to work at first. At the end some evil guys turns out to be enchanted and corrupted good guys.However, G4S1E01-02 are much better in everything. It just that Lauren sometimes reused plots from previous gens to remade them with better characters and better universe.iirc, there was even g1 episode about Spike trying to find what it is to be a dragon, joining some other dragons who pillaged villages and cities. Spike later rejoins with his pony-friends and bad dragons are punished in some way. Does that plot sound familiar? But its execution in g1 was kinda poor, so why not remade it with better quality?Actually I would've liked even more reimagined g1 episodes.
SPELL MY PONY'S NAME FOR ME
night glider wearing shoes
>>42768778>g1It was rough around the edges but was fun. But the singing was so bad I had to skip every song. A combination of cringe and ear rape.>g2???
>>42777160But sometimes G1 did things better than FIM like >>42776592
>>42777224WTF do you mean you don't like the music of G1?>SHOO BEE DOO, SHOO SHOO BEE DOO!
>>42768778I heard the epic G2 lore and stories are only on magazines. Is that le true?
>>42777217B
>>42777231Those damn fuckin sea horses! They are a monstrous chimera of nature. They are kind of cute, but still something is fucked up about them.
>>42768778The shoulders that G4 stood and shit on
>>42777160Faust is a hack>I would have liked even more unoriginal contentThe absolute state of faustards
>>42778671Faust made lightning in a bottle , lalalalalalallalalalaalallalala
>>42778671>no bump on this post creationoh no no no little bro got mad KEEEEEEEEEK
>>42778699Go to bed Lauren
>>42770144Why is that guy wearing eyeshadow?
>>42779212Because it's hot, apparently.
>>42779212Why aren't you?>>42775673lovely
>>42779212Those are bruises from his mare wives when they get jealous of each other
>>42777160Applejack didn't fall from that planks-and-rope bridge over a ravine, your argument is invalid.
>>42781637
gen1 was ruined by this fat bitch.
>>42781806She was featured only in the movie and in a single 10-parter episode.
>>42781811>10 parterI always find that amazing. Even something like Transformers had a 5 parter, but when I occasionally checked G1 MLP I would see something like "part 3" and be surprised that a simple show of ponies would have so many multi-part stories.
>>42781938It surprised me as well, and they were apparently weekly episodes. They're only 10 minutes long, whereas transformers episodes were about 20 minutes long usually, so they had far more time to work with while using less episodes than mlp. You can also notice that mlp had multiple educational advisors through the credits, whereas transformers had none. It's a pretty odd comparison, though i guess MLP being aimed at a potentially younger audience was subject to more of an expectation than something like transformers.
>>42781806I dunno I think she was ok. Check out this episode to confirm.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WiEJX3zcRZI
>>42782023I just had Hasbro properties on the mind
Niblick is quite literally me.
>>42783028Sorry anon, i meant odd comparison in terms of just comparing the two shows to one another, not that its strange to compare them. I could've phrased it better i think
>>42768778I love them
>>42780706This was immediately after she tried to kill herself out of shame for how fat she is, and everyone was patronizing her so she wouldn't try to jump again.
>>42783878Ahnon no!!
>>42780706>supposed to be a cowbell>>42783878they did an eating disorder episode? Wasn't one of the ponies supposed to be bulimic? If it was Pip she probably wouldn't take the hints or criticisms so the only way to shake her confidence for affecting constructive change would be for somepony to deliberately give her weak furniture to use for sitting.
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>>42768778Taken as a whole, these series are better than G4. They never peaked like early G4. But they also never licked toilet seats like late G4.
>>42770144Me on the right.
>>42777221She gonna eat all that?
>>42781451Kek the title
>>42784707G1 mares were kinda hot in their own way
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>>42785925>went to slay the dragon>went to lay with ponies
>>42777160Faust never claims to watch the G1 cartoon baka
>>42785925I want g1 mare snugs
>>42786314She's a damned liar. So many things were ripped off from g1
>>42786472She absolutely watched Rescue at Midnight Castle, that's her main point of inspiration as is pretty clear from how G4 turned out, but I dunno if she watched more than that.
>>42786474She obviously watched more since ticket master is also taken straight from G1.
>>42783040That episode was cool! Moral looks like they are gonna start gen4 next, antagonist is very relatable, action-adventure of ponies is captivating. I could only wish Gen1 had more of such stories.
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>>42786898Anon it's a basic cartoon plot.
>>42787222No not my fausterino
>>42787222>>42777160
>>42777160>iirc, there was even g1 episode about Spike trying to find what it is to be a dragon, joining some other dragons who pillaged villages and cities. Spike later rejoins with his pony-friends and bad dragons are punished in some way. Does that plot sound familiar? But its execution in g1 was kinda poor, so why not remade it with better quality?I hated how they turned Dragons into bully teenagers with ugly designs, they barley looked like dragons.If the episodes was about spike meeting the dragon from dragonshy or the one that appeared in spike owl episode it would be much better.
>>42787725>Me finally coming to Equestria
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>>42785925This provides for a really interesting comparison."Why didn't G1 in the 1980s lead to the outbreak of Xenophilia in American popular culture that G4 did in the 2010s0?"Being one so affected I'd say it was because of how much prettier the G4 designs were and how much the NSFW adapted popular human standards for female in eroticism for the presentation of the pones. An astronaut from Earth might not have as much trouble in this situation as he would if these two were G4 poners with his internal 'targeting system' trying to re-allocate on the quadrupeds.
>>42789870>it was because of how much prettier the G4 designs wereTrue, If only G1 looked like FIM it would been a hit or the other way around if G4 was completely the same but looked like G1 there would be no fandom.
>>42789870I think it's the yearning. G1 has obvious situations where humans go to Ponyland through magic, which eliminates a lot of the "what if?" questions that are vital to a fandom's continued existence. G4 has no humans whatsoever so there's more room to speculate on how the ponies would react instead of already having an answer. Viewers are invited to ask more questions about which ponies would like humans and which wouldn't, how they would react to human ways, etc.G1 is also a lot more infantile. The ponies are clearly supposed to be very young, naive, helpless, etc. The G4 mares are more grown up and can be read as competent grown mares. AJ and Rarity have jobs and worry about money for example, even though they're canonically like... teens or whatever because of EQG you can just ignore that and read them as adult mares. There's more of a distinction between the personalities of literal fillies and grown mares whereas in G1 everypony was pretty much retarded and babyish.>>42790328I actually have some preference for the nostalgic style of G1 and the shape of the mares being more horse-like. As well Midnight Castle is actually sort of beautiful and I love its anime influences. I think a G4 that had the level of detail and hand-painted backgrounds and such could have taken off, but part of G4's success definitely is that they look less like horses than ever. The faces used to really put me off because they're so un-horselike when G4 first came out, but I've come to love it, and it's obviously what people loved from the start.
>>42790414Yeah I agree that besides art style, FIM's success can be also attributed to characters/mane 6 since G4 treats them as individual ponies and aims for a little older demographic than G1 and mane 6 being archetypes let's the fandom to imagine and expand their personalities in so many ways giving birth to fan fictions.And G1 treats ponies more like a species and a group witch makes it harder to distinguish each pony by their personality.I rarely thought of that but you may be right that lack of humans in G4 was a part of what made FIM successful since it let anons imagine themselves travel to Equestria and they weren't bound by any canon humans with their fantasies.>but part of G4's success definitely is that they look less like horses than ever.Sadly true.
>>42790454replace netflix with hasbro because fuck hasbro
>>42790461Was Netflix involved in any capacity in creation of G5 or Movie and show were just hosted there?
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>>42768778the bronoid is repulsed by their latent femininity
>>42781799She's a big girl.
>>42770768>>42768901>>42768972>If G1 (mlp tales involved) had FIM art style it would be almost as good as FIM (1-3 seasons) or as good as FIM (4-9 seasons)>The Anon that said if G1 was animated like G4, it'd be "about as good," is on the mark.Why must you always awaken me from my slumber so I can non-sexually correct you?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7dMDDD3lhv4G4 S2-S9 is an abortion an an open insult to Faust, a very incompetent one too.G5 is a mediocrity that still manages to be infinitely better than G1-G3, G3.5, Newborn Cuties(barely 2 episodes animated in Flash)G1's writing ... I'd say it's somewhere below G5 and Filly Funtasia EVEN IF you cleaned up the Chad faces and redubbed it. It simply has a story structure and pacing and some questionably terrible things about it ... I will however say that G1 is better than S2-S9 and better than G1.5 However in the case of G1.5 ? HAHAHHAA G1.5 met its match with S2-S9, they can hold hands together and give the shittiest lessons possible with the dumbest background characters possible and be an open insult to everyone's IQ, morality, standards and human decency and PETA too.Fuck G1.5 with a sawblade, I hope it gets raped Fritzl style. I hope everyone involved in G1.5 gets raped Fritzl style just like the hasdrones behind S2-S9. You fucking heard me you masochistic whore, keep your whore morals to yourself, whore. You WHORSE. G1.5 Tales is made for standardless whores who love being abused.The toy card stories were better written for G1, with infinitely more admirable characters who just_get_shit_done with no_shits_given. They should have hired the writer for the toy cards to do G1.The animators behind the DnD cartoon also did MLP, but the writers are completely different in the DnD cartoon which is superior to G1 MLP.
I shall hear no more of this hebrew Hasdrone nonsense.Watch a decent 86s Hasbro cartoon like Dungeons & Dragons, Transformers, GI Joe if you want to be an intelligent female else you can go watch G1.5 and get abused by all the colts like the masochistic whore you are.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uiq0LfcXNhsIf you want an entire series like the Midnight Castle episode with Tirek then you shall watch The DnD cartoon by Hasbro. 24/7 adventure and the characters there have individual personalities.
Also, I'm gay.
>>42793494I know where you live.
>>42768778I liked them
>>42793416Most of season 2 episodes were written during or before Season 1 aired so it is still Faust vision.Season 1 is already around 80% of what Faust had intended and season 2 is around 60%, even season 3 was made in Faust's spirit so I would give it at worst 50% of Faust vision.
>>42793416>The toy card stories were betterFinest bait I've seen
>>42795191Look how smug she is .
>>42790975IWTCIBB
>>42789127I love the proportions of the specials. The aren't quite as hippo as the rest of the series. They look so good.
>>42787725That belly NEEDS to be raspberried.
>>42795895You got it
>>42796625Ancient birb
>>42780706>>42795191Anon, it is time to stop.
Somebody post the bookcard toy stories and other stories, the ones involving Majesty and Moondancer were great.
Mares
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>>42796300Unf
>>42794651>(bhc)
>>42774073>untainted by pop referencesHow do we tell him?
>>42799531Not reliant on them then.
>>42799549FIM didn't rely on pop culture references.
>>42799871One of Rarity's main goals was to make it big in manehattan.
>>42799889Rescue at Midnight Castle is a D&D quest.
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>>42799889Rarity held up a radio ffs. Yes. It fucking did.
>>42799949Rely does not mean the same as have.
Not really my thing
>>42800189Yeah we know
It has an interesting vibe, much more classical fantasy than modern mlp, and I enjoy some of the old vinyl record stories they made for it. Not something I sit down and watch regularly but maybe one a year or something.>>42774834How do you "rip off" something from the same franchise? Did Lord of the Rings rip off the Hobbit for featuring a Baggins as the main character?
>>42800189we can tell, zoomer.
>10
>>42800736Tolkien didnt rip off his own work that is silly. Faust may have ripped of Tolkien though.
