Come one and all to the meta-writefag and help raise the quality of MLP fanfiction! Featuring: Georgia O'Keefe painting "flowers" vibes!ITT: People used to think asbestos was amazing; writing is easier when you're autistic and don’t care about quality; Travis, who likes cryptocurrency and wants to fuck Rarity; Twilight couldn't find a blowjob book to study; making my mind's eye short-circuit; rifle sections are all-mare units; expecting the fun kind of mental illness; Alex, who is into cryptocurrency and wants to suckle Celestia; ZOMG babby's first HiE wish fulfilment; Tolkien using vim and plain TeX; Celestia, who is into cryptocurrency and wants to suckle Celestia; and waking up strongly aware of what Discord's cock looks like!>/fimfic/ Secret Book ClubThe one hundred and thirty-eighth and one hundred and thirty-ninth books are Princess Celestia Gets Mugged and The Youth in the Garden:https://www.fimfiction.net/story/99602/princess-celestia-gets-muggedhttps://www.fimfiction.net/story/50795/the-youth-in-the-gardenIf (You) want to participate, finish the story by Sunday, November 9th.Past bookclubs: https://ponepaste.org/11255>Recommended stories:Tired of authors crossing over a dozen IPs? Fed up with downer shipping? Well, we've compiled the best of the worst in order to bring you our absolute average!New Starter Kit - http://mlpficreviews.org.uk/starter/Old Starter Kit - http://i.imgur.com/vuTA7EN.png>Common fic abbreviations used by the thread:https://ponepaste.org/7317>A list of reviews made by the Anons in this thread:http://www.mlpficreviews.org.ukUse the commands ">review <story link>" and ">discuss <story link>" to add reviews to a story.Userscript for extra features: https://ponepaste.org/8619>An in-depth writing guide for beginners:https://eznguide.neocities.org/>Additional material for authors:Rhorse's Horse Behavioral Notes - https://ponepaste.org/932Politics and the English Language - https://www.orwell.ru/library/essays/politics/english/e_polit/Vhatug's tips for anatomically correct clop - https://poneb.in/g4VpEg4fSetting a story in motion - https://youtu.be/ufO8LbwTdu0Purdue Online Writing resources: https://owl.purdue.edu/owl/index.html and https://owl.purdue.edu/owl/subject_specific_writing/creative_writing/writers/index.html>Can you pre-read my story?Post it on Google Docs or HackMD with comments enabled and give us a link.>Various reviews and riffs:Fillyanon's Bookshelf - https://ponepaste.org/5555Notkickass222urmom's Reviews - https://pastebin.com/u/notkickass222urmomIHeartShinzakura's Reviews - https://ponepaste.org/user/IHeartShinzakuraAppleanon reads fics - https://poneb.in/wmGX7FPmDeluxe Big Master Review List - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1z9Bz7UnEbxo-svlXa2tV49PJkP-yFuR7pRXiBUn-IeUA Guide to Rational Fics - https://files.catbox.moe/3jzrfm.pngThe Royal Canterlot Library's Top 16 Fanfics - https://royalcanterlotlibrary.net/top16/Previous Thread: >>42736173
Did Tolkien harm writing forever by autistically focusing on world-building instead of storytelling?
Second for best duo!
>>42779263No. Publishers did.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_BBrDhgGz1k
Congratulations to Travis, who likes cryptocurrency and wants to fuck Rarity for making it in the OP this time.
4+1th for best duo!Enjoy this conveniently packaged Tuna: https://www.fimfiction.net/story/189261/the-better-angel
>>42779263But he didn't, not in his published writings. He built a world and then wanted to tell stories in this world.Even in the Silmarillion, the parts that read like a history book are the most unfinished. The bits that we do have of the children of Hurin for example read like excellent stories. Or the entire Lay of Leithian.
>>42779278He's come a long way from waking up in the everfree forest with nothing but his wits and some vinyl recordings of Joe Rogan's podcast.
>>42779406He could have finished those stories and published them, though. He certainly had plenty of time to. Instead, he focused on worldbuilding, with the result that he published very little and left behind many volumes of autism.
>>42779262>People used to think asbestos was amazingThey’ll say the same thing of us and some material we think is innocuous in 100 years.
>>42779460Perhaps, but he certainly didn't "harm writing" by not publishing enough.Also arguably he was writing and re-writing his stories at least as much as he was autisming about worldbuilding. The closest thing he wrote to pure worldbuilding was his linguistic autism, and IIRC he didn't really dedicate all that much time to revising it over the years - he had his conlangs (before they were called conlangs) and he was happy. Well, that and some annals and timelines, but that can't have taken all that much time and is a good tool to have to make sure your stories are consistent.Other than that, he didn't spend his time making autistic diagrams, or listing out factoids, or constructing a history from scratch. The majority of what he wrote was in the form of a story or a story fragment. This is actually reflected in the resulting worldbuilding: the major historical happenings are all very character-driven; there's very few abstract historical accounts of nameless nations or battles. There's no detailed cosmology other than what's laid out by the mythological tales of the Valar, there are as far as I'm aware zero autistic ramblings about any systems, about how magic works or the biology of the world or its geology or its physics. It's almost all stories about characters doing stuff across the course of history.There are some exceptions, such as the story of Numenor mostly being the story of a nation outside of its founding and destruction, and some intermediate kings are named but are rather inconsequential as characters. But these really are exceptions, and even then the tale of Numenor is structured as a tale, and most of the focus is indeed on the Fall of Numenor rather than historical accounts of is existence prior to that. The sum of what we know of the second age, when nothing too major was happening, is minuscule compared to the amount of writings and time Tolkien dedicated to all the time periods that actually have stories and characters to write about.
>>42779477No, the plastic will kill everyone by then, I'm sure.
>>42779263The obsession with world building was made up by a group of autistic cunts on the Internet that didn’t get the original point because they were to autistic and thus what they made was a reductive simulacrum and then their ideas spread to normies and managerial corporations that drained the life out of it. This is how literally every social phenomenon is. Some innovator draws something out from the realm of ideas, some small group of followers iterate upon it and make it more accessible, it grows but gets systematized and formalized and bureaucratized and commodified and watered down, in that process the original meaning is forgotten and only the outward facing shell of it remains for an increasingly degenerate and uncreative people to reuse over and over again until it has lost all meaning and value and everything attached to it disintegrates as there is no longer any understanding structure to hold them up.
>>42779483The real horror is that there is probably some material that has horrendous health effects that even health schizos haven’t picked up on yet.
>>42779502Yeah, that would be horrific. I don't know, there's no research going into how radio affects people, apparently. I've read opinions that radio towers might cause chronic wasting disease in deer. Still, this is something that's at least represented in the public consciousness. Maybe air conditioning has some long term effect on the body no one's noticed yet?
>>42779263Yeah, but even if he hadn't, someone else would've eventually.
>>42779510That's because radio waves, like most frequencies, barely penetrate into the body except at ridiculous amounts of energy. It would be very hard for radio waves at ordinary levels of power to do significant damage even under prolonged exposure.I have heard that some of the frequencies used by cell phones do penetrate somewhat deeper (measured in something like mm of depth per watt). Maybe that's a problem if you're constantly holding your cell phone up to your head? But the power levels might still be insignificant. Even in the worst case, it's probably no more harmful than UV in suntanning or the cosmic radiation you get from an airplane flight.Air conditioning is probably helpful on the whole. It reduces humidity, which tends to reduce mold growth. (Though there are cases of poorly designed air conditioning systems creating condensation that dripped onto wood and caused huge mold colonies.) But ventilation is probably a bigger deal that we generally recognize. Old buildings were far from airtight; a drafty old house is also one that gets a lot of outside fresh air. (The word "window" literally means something like "wind-hole".) Modern buildings are much closer to airtight. That makes for more efficient heating and cooling (because you lose less energy to the outside), but it means you need mechanical ventilation or else the air gets stagnant. Commercial buildings always have mechanical ventilation. Residential buildings rarely do. Is that our big mistake? I don't know.Also, deer are fucking vermin and they need to die.
>>42779551>Also, deer are fucking vermin and they need to die.D:
Worldbuilding ain't shit if it doesn't have good food lore.
>>42779628anon you're SO fat
>>42779629That's a fairly low amount of body fat for an average-sized anon, I'd say?
>>42779637You know what, you're probably right. I concede.What kind of food lore do anons like in their fics? Just describing the food itself in (excruciating) detail, or things like historical traditions behind the meals of the day?
>>42779661Traditions and implications. Look at Morrowind.
>>42779661I once tried to imagine what crops would be common in the area of Equestria where Ponyville is so I could choose the appropriate vegetables for an autumn vegetable tartine.Also, I made an off-hand mention of ramekins originating from ancient sheep warrior clans.
>>42779661Let's see: I've used detail, but what stands out most to me is when I decided what Earth pony body language should be when they're busy cooking and can use neither their mouths nor their eyes to acknowledge somepony:>The three little fillies flooded into the kitchen as Cup Cake was putting another tray of treats into one of the ovens. She acknowledged them by tapping the ground twice with a forehoof, the common body language for recognizing others when the mouth and eyes are preoccupied. She looked at her guests as she was closing the oven door back and was surprised to see the three so early in the morning.It's a little detail, but I like it. It's also nice to emphasize that ponies don't lock their doors and things like that.
i'm going to be perfectly honest,>Travis, who likes cryptocurrency and wants to fuck Raritywas not the funniest part of that post. the actual funniest part was>Voltaire in Equestriabecause it sounds like an entire genre. you've got HiE, AiE, and now ViE
>>42779815Various French philosophers find their way to Equestria. It's hell.
>>42773110>the site owner doesn't want to host it anymoreFimfic's all Knighty has. It's only dying when he does or it starts costing him money to operate ($17k a year from SubscribeStar should be more than enough to keep the lights on).>>42774083>seven new users a dayFrankly, that seems like a ton of new users per day given the show ended six years ago and G5 was a bust.>>42775059>it would be ao3'sAbsolutely not. Like >>42775559 said, that leads to search becoming a hellscape. Shipfags finally knowing what the romance tag is for gets offset by all character tags becoming useless because they appear once in an 80k fic. Tag Anon's utopia is actually a nightmare.
>>42779851I think the best discoverability system a fic site could implement is something that emphasizes reviews and makes it easy to browse reviews. If you find someone who has similar tastes to you, then can look through all the reviews they've made, that'll give you a lot better guidance on what stories you may or may not like than any tag or score ever could.
>read 50% of the club fic todayPonies?
>>42779897Yeah, it's about 50% ponies.
Is Luna's dreamwalking common knowledge, like something that would be taught in school? When it happens to the CMC in their respective Luna episodes, they all treat it as normal.
>>42780225If God visits you in your dreams, or really anywhere else, you may be surprised, but you'd also accept it pretty easily. It's a bit easier to be perturbed when God, say, transforms into a clone of you and fucks your wife.
>>42779628GRRM get the fuck out of here and finish Winds of Winter.
https://heyzine.com/flip-book/e923c86778.htmlTake your asses out of your generals for a second and come review this. Especially confirmations about things I already know.
>>42779390Examples?
>>42779510>Maybe air conditioning has some long term effect on the body no one's noticed yet?Lovecraftbros is this our time to shine?>>42779480Tolkien's field of study was more focused on language (and literature, following that) than history, and while obviously you can't study historical languages eschewed from the history itself surrounding them it's evident how his works were more influenced by stories than history. Mainly things like Arthurian myths or Beowulf, which is all well documented, or things like the Latin inscription at Lydney Park concerning Nodens.
>>42780430Sorry, Anon, too busy investing in genetic manipulation startups so they can make fake direwolves that look nothing like the historical thing but do look like what he wrote them like. GRRM is too rich now and has no incentive to write.
>>42779828Hell is other ponies.
>>42779851>Frankly, that seems like a ton of new users per day given the show ended six years ago and G5 was a bust.the fandom is still alive. There’s still people producing fan content on tiktok and insta.>>42780225My headcanon is that knowledge of her dream walking spread through word of mouth as she got back to doing it and ponies reported of it to eachother. And also maybe some royal announcement about it. And now it’s just in the corpus of common knowledge as well as bei by formally documented in relevant texts.
>>42779502>>42779510The modern world is chock full of tons of substances, materials and technologies that weren't used in the past and are poorly studied for chronic effects. There's also semi-regular low-key reclassifications of known chemicals, like PFAs slowly studied and better understood.True health schizos recognise this and strive to live innawoods with no modern shit.>air conditioningAir conditioning is known to carry risks of mold build-up, and even small amounts of mold can have adverse effects. In theory if it's kept perfectly clean and sterile it should be fine. My mum always said aircon gives you a cold though, just because you're not supposed to have a cold wind blowing on you at all times even during hot weather.You guys are underestimating health schizos.
>>42780873Air conditioning itself doesn't build up mold. Mold prefers warm, moist environments, and an air conditioned space is the exact opposite of that.However, an uninsulated refrigerant line or ducting can create condensate in unintended places. That is what grows mold: Not the fact of air conditioning, but the unintended consequences of doing it wrong.
>>42780901>air conditioning doesn't grow mold>here's how mold can grow inside air conditioningIs mold from refrigirant condensate somehow special and doesn't cause any respiratory issues or something? If not then I don't get your point
Mold is good for you actually
>>42780577Usually it's like a specific image which I end up hyperfocusing on for an unexplainable reason when in any other circumstances it would be just average and forgettable. Especially if it's fetish shit. Often it's at least related to fetishes I normally have but sometimes it's not. Hard to remember specific examples but one time for example it was fluttershy anal vore (I'm not normally into anal or ponuts in general)
>>42780925This is on par with saying meat is universally bad for you because some of it is bad when you don't cook it properly.
>>42780225She pulled all of Ponyville into a shared dream and everyone was pretty okay with it.I think at this point it's a well known fact.
>>42779661I like it when changelings can eat emotions besides love, with varying food flavors being given to them. There's also a slightly worse variation on this in Prey, where Ocellus can still only eat love, but the food association changes based on whose love it is. It's also fairly creative with non-food flavors, like asphalt or petrichor.
>>42780225Okay, thanks for the feedback. All signs pointed to this being something the average Ponyville resident would probably know.>Princess Luna: I am the princess of the night. Thus it is my duty to come into your dreams.>Scootaloo: Oh, yeah... Wait, is this just a dream? But it feels so real!The "Oh yeah" makes me think that Scoot already knows Luna can do that. It feels more like a revelation for the audience than anything else.>Sweetie Belle: Princess Luna! It's really you! Or am I dreaming?>Princess Luna: What do you think?>Sweetie Belle: Let me see. You just rescued me from a maniacal laughing Rarity-cloud. Yeah, probably dreaming.Sweetie Belle immediately assumes she is dreaming when she sees Luna.If nothing else, it's probably something that you would find in a history book.>>42780244And what if God IS your wife?>>42780801I can see there being a royal announcement for it. Maybe having Luna jumping back into her work before the announcement spooked a couple of ponies.>>42781296This is story is pre-season 5.
>>42781842I always thought it made sense for Luna to make the Tantabus much earlier than it was presented in the show, and it just happened to be in S5 that the episode was shown.Do Princesses Dream of Magic Sheep could've happened at any point in the show's runtime, there's nothing conceptually anchoring it to S5, unlike, say, Sounds of Silence.
>>42781842>And what if God IS your wife?Calm down, Homura.
Trying to find good fics on Ao3 is a complete crapshoot. The only good way is to pick a popular tag you like and sort by kudos.
>>42782114This is /fimfic/ though. Even though I sometimes go through a lot of trouble to find good fics, that's my choice. I don't have to, there are a lot that are easy to find.I've come to the conclusion that Ao3 posters are simply disabled, and will never grasp that their site's tagging system is inferior to FiMfic's (when combined with FiMfic's Groups) specifically in the domain of tagging FiMfics.However, if you want to give them more credit than they deserve, you could have some fun trying to figure out why they promote a fundamentally inferior tagging system. Are they saboteurs, promoting Ao3's tagging system despite understanding its inferiority to hasten the demise of the site? Are they /pol/tards, following a programmed response to FiMfic's primarily lesbian romance? (This seems to be the actual answer, when pressed.) Alternatively, do they simply feed on drama and their desires are at best loosely related to the actual labeling of stories?
>>42781943She probably made the tantabus almost immediately upon coming back, and it only got out of control during S5.
>>42782309That makes sense if you want to stick to the show's timeline exactly, but I would like to pretend she made it shortly before or after Luna Eclipsed. Then, and Twilight & friends helped her with it before MMC.
>>42782326I would like to pretend Luna Eclipsed doesn't exist. Its characterization of Luna pretty much exists in a vacuum and you can trace a direct line from Luna before it to Luna after it that doesn't touch it at all.
>>42782308a tagging system that must be combined with a groups system to work fails as a tagging system. the very few problems caused by ao3's tagging system are entirely caused by misuse and not inherent problems with the system.
Why not just put the tags in your description
>I saw, I dunno, I think it was Miss Manehattan and we ended up spending the night together and in the middle of the sex, it was like a hot dog splitting and you know, I found myself in the emergency room with my penis in my hoof waiting to be stitched up.Good fic.
>>42782497Thank god for unicorns and their magical mishaps leading to every Equestrian hospital having a dedicated penis explosion ward.
>>42782341That would be terrible. It is a very fun episode, and not much of her characterization in it is actually bad. There are a lot of great Tuna moments in it, but more importantly for you, that's pretty much the only episode that explores her disconnection from Equestria's citizens. You know, the whole reason she became NMM in the first place. The next one wouldn't even be until, what, the S5 episode that started this chain?There are a lot of good scenes besides her petulantly terrorizing Ponyville, like the bridge, her offering the Hub logo to the statue of her evil self, all the spells she uses while at the carnival, and of course her pranking the foals on the advice of Twilight and later just because she likes to.And no, there's no line to draw from S1 Luna to any other version of Luna. She's really a non-character.+ baps
I need somebody's help because I'm 100% sure this is from an official fanfic because I swear to god it seems familiar, and I just had a dream about it>EQG (or it could be in the MLP main universe not sure)>some bizarre, lovecraftian spider or other creature is attacking the other ponies invisibly, instantly turning their eyes red, they stop what they're doing and there's seconds pass in silence before they lunge at the 1st person POV>before they reach, Twilight stops time again and instructs whoever is in the 1st person to try again and think about love and light/magic in some way to defeat the invisible deity somehow>she resets time>eventually they find some way to defeat it but it's clear this has happened multiple timesAm I just experiencing deja vu because I swear to god I read a fanfic or watched a horror MLP animation that was identical to this YEARS ago
>>42781943The guilt in S5 was all internal, yeah?bI also think that the Tantabus could have been something that brewed in the background and finally boiled over in S5.Tantabus isn't a factor in this story.>>42782677>the only episode that explores her disconnection from Equestria's citizens. Yeah, it's a good episode. Luna Ecplised is a good proper introduction episode while also being by a good stepping stone for Luna. By Sleepless in Ponyville she seems mostly okay. Meaning, okay enough to do princess stuff in modern Equestria. By LE is an important inbetween. They get a lot done in that episode.
>>42782721You can check some of these, or provide better search terms. Especially a phrase.
Still waiting on that fic where Luna and Twilight make a baby out of the Tantabus
>>42782778You're still waiting for Tantabus, Mk II?
>>42782768Yeah, I'm not getting anything for this specific scenario. I think my mind just came up with it years back and I had a dream of it a few hours ago.Fuck it, I'm just gonna write it myself
>>42782818Yes but sadder and Tuna
On that topic, any good romance sadfics?
>>42782846I'd like more Tuna, but I don't think it has to be sad.>>42782870I posted one that's not bad at the top of the thread.
i love that one trixie story where she dies and nobody cares, it's literally just this image
>>42782887It can be bittersweet
>>42782907I'm saying the Tantabus episode already has enough of that. If they're going to make a new one, it just seems appropriate for it to be triumphant. You want the Tantabus to fail or something? That seems shitty, especially because it worked the first time. Between Luna Eclipsed and the Tantabus, Luna is a really unreasonably talented enchantress.
>>42782936No no, they're going to make a baby using the tantabus as a kernel
I've started another commission, so I may as well post it here:https://www.fimfiction.net/story/584570/chaotic-cravingsWriting Eris is fun, and I feel I've done a good job so far. I always like to find new ways to write something unusual that I wouldn't add to any other story. It tickles me how this one guy has commented twice now on the commissions I write to complain about the price, and for no other reason.
>>42782980Why the fuck would anyone pay you $420? And why would you announce that in the long description?
>>42783010>Why the fuck would anyone pay you $420?He wanted a story that was fourteen thousand words long.>And why would you announce that in the long description?I announce commission prices for reasons of transparency.
>>42783017>He wanted a story that was fourteen thousand words long.He's gonna get fourteen thousand words, but he's not gonna get a story. Besides, you wrote in the comments,>I'd tell you how many thousands of words it's planned to be, but I'd rather not spoil the story's length so easily.Which is ridiculous, since you announce your prices elsewhere.
>>42783025>He's gonna get fourteen thousand words, but he's not gonna get a story.Rude.>Which is ridiculous, since you announce your prices elsewhere.Yes. It's more indirect to require someone curious to go find my prices to see how long the story will be. The indirection is the point of my phrasing. Once the story's finished, of course, it's length will be obvious even without that.
>>42783043>RudeNo fanfiction is ever worth reading or writing. It's objectively true.
>>42780544It's too long for a pitch doc. Why is it going into magic lore autism like how pegasus magic works or cutie marks? Execs don't give a fuck about that. That's something the story editor/showrunner goes over with the staff writers.I'm guessing few drawfags wished to participate, because there needs to be way more concept art. The execs need a good idea of what's actually being proposed. The main characters all need art, the main locations, the toy sets, etc. Look back at the original show bible for G4: there's art on almost every single page showing locations, characters, buildings, etc. Helps to paint a very strong picture of the tone they're shooting for.The deer art just seems bizarre and completely out of place as well. No idea why that's in there unless the intent is to actually use deer designs. And what's with the bald NMM?>>42780873>aircon gives you a coldReminds me of the euro cope that you can't have the A/C more than 10 degrees colder than the outside temp or the body will go into shock from the temperature transition.
>>42783208You're wasting your time. He's a schizo, and nothing you tell him will matter.
>>42782891wow she's literally me...
>>42782677It just feels weirdly disconnected from the rest of canon. The only instance of her speaking in Shakespearian English out of the blue. Bats, which never show up again. A complete new design for her all of a sudden. It's a good episode but it's a weird one in the greater context of the show. It also led to this really funny thing where IDW had a whole arc trying to justify her looks changing and in the process invalidated the episode itself.
If a human dies in a forest and only Fluttershy is around to hear it, did he really like cryptocurrency?/FSBC/But let's do the better fic first.[Mugging]I have some small issues with the story, but it easily earned its updoot, though with little chance of a favorites inclusion. As far as the "classics" go, this is a very solid one; not any worse nor better than that. The SoL is pretty fine, the idea of Celestia going along with being kidnapped by a bunch of incompetent ponies is very fun, and there are enough jokes that the better ones make up for the misses. I don't think the fic was anything special, but it was pretty enjoyable, and I can see myself recommending it. The writing is also much more polished than what the standards of the time were, which should be acknowledged. I did not like that a huge part of its implied thesis is that "Pony = incompetent/childish", but while that's a very unrefined, basic, low take, at least it keeps the fic from straying too far. Whatever. It's like a definition of a 6.5/10 story for me. That's actively good, yes! Just not 'very good'.[Travis, who shoots confederates and wants to see his mother]I'll be a contrarian and claim this: This is a bad fanfiction.Yes, TD is a skilled writer. He knows it, writing the way he does here. But this fic is worse than many, many stories written by writers 10% as good as him. It's so fake on Equestria's end. In the attempt to sound poignant, the fic devolves into self-fellating levels of pathos. This is not helped by the writer overusing certain techniques meant to enhance the prose. At first they maybe do, but by the fiftieth repeated sentence ending, it gets a little silly, it gets a little over-the-top.I liked the human parts of the fic. The description of Travis's emotions as he goes into his first (and last) battle was written very effectively. This is also where the writing is at its strongest; the kind of writing you'd show as "yes, I'm a professional artist".Unfortunately, the Equestria parts kind of suck, imo. None of the characters are in character. Well, Fluttershy mostly is, but she speaks like an alien; she speaks like Fluttershy from an alternative world. The echoing description of the hill, the gunshots, Travis's death, etc—they all wear out their welcome well before they're over. The first third of FS's scenes are imo just bloating the story in a bad attempt at making it seem more significant.And it also dares to get overly pretentious on top of it, as if the above were not enough. I wish I wasn't writing this post so last minute (it's 4:02 now) so I could explain it better, but I stepped away from the fic feeling tricked. It's a bit sad, sure, but it's manipulative in the way it tries to make its sadness feel grandiose. This would have been a much better story without any ponies. Of course, I will acknowledge trying to do /something/, and the writing is objectively pretty good, so I cannot imagine leaving a dislike, but I did not leave a like.
>>42783852>/FSBC/Oh no, missed the meme arrow! In any case,[VOTING]We've been doing a bunch of shorter fics lately, so maybe something larger now? Unless (You) want to read something else.>https://www.fimfiction.net/story/755/on-a-cross-and-arrow>https://www.fimfiction.net/story/92300/crisis-on-two-equestrias>https://www.fimfiction.net/story/249782/magical-mystery-oops>https://www.fimfiction.net/story/3479/the-games-we-play
>>42783704It gave us mountains of bap content though, so that's good.
>>42783852I'm against the clock, so I'll have to keep this short.I really liked Mug, but not in a way that leaves an impression, like you said. I enjoyed the story as I read it, but I'm left with nothing beyond a "that was nice". I think the only noteworthy aspect of the story is Celestia herself. She was so fun to read, and I would like to read more stories where she just goes along with things because she knows she's not in any real danger.On the other hand, remember how Krastos was a story where you could see how it worked, but the fic itself was mediocre, and really not a good show of what the author had to offer? Yeah, YitG was like that. This gets a far less enthusiastic "Yeah, it was fine". I didn't really care about Travis, and not just because he was in the wrong side of history. Eh, I don't know. Have we read TD's stories before in the club? I don't remember. I'd rather read some of this other stuff.>>42783867Voting for Oops.
>>42784027>I think the only noteworthy aspect of the story is Celestia herselfWe can finally disprove Leibniz's thesis, since both this fic and OG Sunny Skies were some of the most-upvoted fics on the site and yet somehow this didn't become a major fic genre.>remember how KrastosI also thought of Krastos, of course, but I think this is a worse story. Krastos felt tragically underbaked, but here I think the author did what he wanted, and the "what he wanted" was just not good.>Have we read TD's stories before in the club?Highball, which was very contentious. I thought we might have read The Song of Syhlex because it came up in the thread a few times (and was good), but I don't think it was a club fic. I'll try to throw https://www.fimfiction.net/story/2350/a-cup-of-joe into the mix some week soon.
>>42783852TY in the G... The first 50% is just a grim dark civil war fanfic. Then after all that wait, there isn't any sort of first contact scenario. Youth (who we MUST address as just a boy, lest we anger Fluttershy) just sees a talking pony and immediately crawls towards it screaming for his mother. When asked what is wrong he responds with "I'm thirsty." Why? Why does he ask for water? I don't doubt he is thirsty, but there are far more pressing matters. He is screaming and crying in pain before he declares his thirst and he is screaming and crying in pain after it. Water won't fix any of that. How did water even enter his mind? Then he talks about the ball inside him and it is never even suggested that maybe it should be removed.>Keeps screaming "mother" right in Fluttershys faceKek. He's torn between begging for water, screaming for his mother and grabbing fluttershy at all times>the kid grew up in a cottage like FluttershysFucking kek, I really doubt that>Him realizing he's in heavenOk this was literally the only good part of the entire fic. It was kino. Then the fic actually gets worse once he dies and Fluttershy goes on some sort of righteous tirade for I guess the rest of her life. If I was one of the ponies I would be concerned this Youth cast a mind altering spell on her or something. And I was very scared that Spike was about to accidently kill someone with the gun lmao, I truly would've burst out laughing if that had happened.>Celestia trolling fluttershy with incessant knocking>Randomly assuming 'the great flaw' of a species she has just now seen for the first timeKek. Imagine living in a world with tons of sentient species and then seeing a new one that is a soldier and just assuming that species is endlessly killing itself.>giving spike all this dead guys stuffFor what fucking reason? Anyway, story kinda sucked.PCgMI read this before and it's just a standard low stakes comedy fic. Luna is the butt of the jokes which is extremely meh and just like the first time I read it, it just makes me want the alternate version where she rips the info out of his mind and leaves him a vegetable then just kills the other captors and Celestia realizes she made a mistake instead of Luna having to corner her afterwards and tell Celestia she was scared. I do like Celestia not caring at all though and having to fake getting knocked out twice then just not reacting to a 2x4 breaking over her head later>Luna used all of her vacation days when she was on the moonKek>they find out it's Celestia and she just smiles at themKino
>>42784186>Why? Why does he ask for water? I don't doubt he is thirsty, but there are far more pressing matters.>How did water even enter his mind?No, he's already dead. Dying people feeling extremely thirsty is a real phenomenon, by the way. It's a super common thing in wars. I think it's shock from blood loss? But in any case, that is both accurate and believable. Have you never watched a movie or read any book? Even the Bible has that.>Fluttershy goes on some sort of righteous tiradeYeah, that part was the author trying and (imo) failing.>>Randomly assuming 'the great flaw'But you don't get it, we're Making A Point here. "War=Bad". A truly unique thought.>just makes me want the alternate version where she rips the info out of his mind and leaves him a vegetable then just kills the other captorswtfYeah, the jokes at Luna's expense weren't the greatest and I rolled my eyes a few times (and desú the nobles weren't too good, either), but Celestia and the captors get funny scenes. At least by [Comedy] standards.
>>42783852>The SoL is pretty fine, the idea of Celestia going along with being kidnapped by a bunch of incompetent ponies is very funagreed>I did not like that a huge part of its implied thesis is that "Pony = incompetent/childish"I like the idea that they are so morally good as a species that they are always incompetent when doing bad things that go against their nature. But yeah, the royal guard being entirely comprised of class clowns is a bit much. >It's like a definition of a 6.5/10 story for me.kek, sure>[Travis, who shoots confederates and wants to see his mother]I'm not sure he does that though, more like [Youth, who drinks water and wants to see his mother]>I'll be a contrarian and claim this: This is a bad fanfiction.uhhhh... I completely agree though>But this fic is worse than many, many stories written by writers 10% as good as him.fucking kek. I did notice typos in this one>It's so fake on Equestria's end. In the attempt to sound poignant, the fic devolves into self-fellating levels of pathos.Absolutely agree. Equestria revolves around this BOY the second he gets there>Unfortunately, the Equestria parts kind of suck, imo>The first third of FS's scenes are imo just bloating the story in a bad attempt at making it seem more significant.>This would have been a much better story without any ponies.Yeah, this is a civil war 'fanfic' for sure>>42784027>I enjoyed the story as I read it, but I'm left with nothing beyond a "that was nice".Yeah, but I don't think it was going for anything more than that which is fine.Apparently I've read all but the last 3 chapters of oops lol>>42784176>>Have we read TD's stories before in the club?>Highball,fucking kek, not a good look for this guy so far>>42784224>Even the Bible has that.As if had I only read 1 book in my life it would've been the bible kek>Yeah, the jokes at Luna's expense weren't the greatest and I rolled my eyes a few times (and desú the nobles weren't too good, either), but Celestia and the captors get funny scenes. At least by [Comedy] standards.Celestia's half of the fic is good, this is even where the incompetence shines. But the Luna half of the fic is where the incompetence does not shine. The royal guard are only useful off-screen and Luna says she's scared but doesn't act like it and thus it doesn't fit into my head canon lol. I want Wyrmlysan Luna, not this one, which could actually help the fic considering I think the fic is actually perfectly split on where the jokes land and which princess we're with at the time. If she truly feared for Celestia then I don't think she would let laws and due process stand in her way. And she certainly wouldn't be getting seduced in her own dreamwalk investigation.
>>42783867I'm going to participate in this for once. Voting for MMO. I feel like I can't vote for Co2E on the same 'blurb-only impression' basis as the others because I got sucked into actually reading it while I was skimming the first chapter.
I enjoyed Principal Celestia Hunts The Undead even if it fooled me into reading a momlestia story.
>>42784334>I like the idea that they are so morally good as a species that they are always incompetent when doing bad thingsYep, yep. I can't say anything without repeating what you said word-for-word, but Guard or Nobles acting like foals was meh.>I'm not sure he does that though,He did shoot a lot. With some luck, he got some Yankees in that first, confused salvo.>I completely agree thoughBut you wouldn't appreciate it if it were a good artsy fic, either, and I'm saying it's not even that. If you google it, you'll find people praising it to high heavens both in /fimfic/ and on the site itself.>not a good look for this guyThat's what I mean. Highball IS good in that tryhardy fashion. This one is not. Also, I'll throw Song of Syhlex somewhere since (if I remember what the fic is) you will like that one.>As if had I only read 1 book in my life it would've been the bible kekWhat other pick you could have there? I think The Bible would be a clear #1 choice for me there. It's just a foundation of our entire culture, one way of another, and like half of the classic proverbs, sayings, and literally allusions requires knowing it. It is recommended reading for, well, living in the Western at any point since its post-Roman inception. Expanding to a top 5 is an interesting thought exercise. I'd probably add Homer's Odyssey right after, but it's a pretty distant second. Then something more modern. Crime and Punishment, I think. Then Ulisses if you're feeling pretentious and Lolita if not? Hamlet probably earns a spot. You could also put The Epic of Gilgamesh instead of Odyssey, but I'd be against that swap.
>>42784675Nothing wrong with that.
>>42784880>He did shoot a lot.That's true, he was firing a lot so maybe he got some hits. Although we also learn he was firing at his own dudes for part of it>But you wouldn't appreciate it if it were a good artsy fic, either, and I'm saying it's not even that. If you google it, you'll find people praising it to high heavens both in /fimfic/ and on the site itself.>That's what I mean. Highball IS good in that tryhardy fashion.True enough. I would also definitely agree highball was significantly better than this one was.>Also, I'll throw Song of Syhlex somewhere since (if I remember what the fic is) you will like that one.sure why not>What other pick you could have there? I think The Bible would be a clear #1 choice for me there.Fair enough I suppose. I definitely have not read the Bible though.
I was supposed to read Princess Celestia Gets Mugged, but I read Coin Operated Mare instead. Estee is apparently pretty annoying about writing engaging M[Sex] fics that seem like they're going to have smut, but then don't.
>>42784675I liked that story.It was nice.
>>42785285It is secretly just a Insecure Celestia story dressed up in a Hunter: The Reckoning crossover.
>>42784917>I definitely have not read the Bible though.Some of the letters are nice.
>>42784917Many things in Western culture make more sense after you read the Bible. Even if you have no religious interest whatsoever, it's so influential that it's worth reading for cultural context alone.
>>42785342I used to tell myself that, then I tried to actual read The Bible. It's fucking boring until roughly Kings.
>>42785350I heard you can skip to act 5 when the trolls show up and it's better.
>>42783017>$420 for just a fourteen thousand word storyAre you out of your fucking mind?
>>42785350I remember reading the Saul-David-Solomon part when I was young and having a blast laughing at them.And then rereading it in my twenties and feeling bad.
>>42785423$30/k-word is an entirely reasonable rate actually, especially after the recent developments. I should honestly up my rate to that too.
>>42785423He is, but not for that reason. $0.03/word is a reasonable rate.
>>42785702The reason I've never done commissions myself is because I would never pay someone else that much.
>>42785147>Estee is apparently pretty annoyingyyyyep>about writing engaging M[Sex] fics that seem like they're going to have smut, but then don't.that too
How're them words going?
>>42783852Mugging was really entertaining on Celestia and the thieves part, but Luna was upset and angry in a way that was too serious for the comedy. Giving all the kidnappers jobs in the end also feels off. Poverty doesn't do crime, people do. Overall the story was fun.Just a boy(tm) was not good, which is a bummer because the premise of a dying solider going to equestria works well. Instead it's a sad civil excerpt like what they made me read in school followed by fluttershy crying "He's just like us!" over and over even though it isn't true since she has nothing else to say about the guy she just met. Spike accidentally shooting the gun was good and the description of him being whisked away was good but I'm fishing for the good in a story that doesn't make the cut. Instead of having fluttershy dream of war, it should have had the boy(tm) show up dying at the start and have him tell her about the war himself over several days of declining health.
>>42786045Did some decent progress. Just passed 40k on my fic.Here's hoping I can finish an additional two chapters before the year is over.
>>42786040>open image>looks like Luna is licking her lips>read "foals">LUNA NO-ohbut we'll catch her in the act eventually
>>42786126You're confusing her with Twilight
>/fimfic/ Secret Book Club>The one hundred and thirty-eighth and one hundred and thirty-ninth booksoh man I've been away a while. we were still in single digits i think
>>42783704So it's a total replacement of Luna as a character, just as I said? That's fine, good, even great. She's transformed into "the blue background pony that's also Celestia's sister" into "Princess Luna," Princess of the Night and somepony who is interesting on her own. You're still acting like it's somehow a bad thing for the show to rectify such a serious mistake by taking drastic action. It's just not.The Elizabethan speech is a great idea, and if later episodes don't use it, that only makes those episodes worse, not Luna Eclipsed. Fortunately, fanfics can rescue it, and I still love what I Watch the Moon does with it. Obviously, the same applies to baps.
I hate the old timey speech honestly, I can't even articulate why but I prefer it when she's antiquated but dropped most of the thees and thous.
>>42786267A couple of them were even good!
>>42786325some of them yeah, from what i remember. turns out i was mistaken though, Eyes On You (#13) was the last one i read, i skipped Best Night Ever because i had just recently read it and then never got caught up again afterwards.apparently i was too busy filling out my checklist to do both at the same time. I don't even remember most of these, or why i rated them the way i did. guess that means it's time for rereads
>>42785423Wouldn't my commissioner be he who's out of his mind here?>>42785520I'm probably going to raise mine to $33.33 soon. If I keep getting business after that, probably $35 even later.>>42785790Now I'm curious if you've ever commissioned artwork or anything. It can be pretty easy for a fancy digital painting to go into the hundreds, especially when the artist is in high demand.I think being on the other side of commissions is pretty neat. I'll describe an idea and maybe send over a shitty stick figure to an artist, and get something awesome practically plucked from my mind's eye. My commissioners usually come to me with extremely vague ideas I expand on pretty extensively with them. It's funny, because I've discussed this with artists, and we both kind of take our talents for granted. You know, an artist can pretty easily sketch out a scene, a writer can pretty easily describe an idea.Another interesting part of it is I just recently talked with an artist who had a nervous breakdown about the AI shit, but I've never had more customers before. I guess /CHAG/ just doesn't cut it.
>>42786407>if you've ever commissioned artwork or anythingNope.I've always taken care of these stuff myself. Mainly due to the aforementioned aversion to paying that much money.I think it may be due to me being a thirdworlder, so a dollar stretches more than what I'm used to handling.
>>42786462>I think it may be due to me being a thirdworlder, so a dollar stretches more than what I'm used to handling.Ah, yeah, then that would make sense. A lot of artists in places like Russia and Mexico have relatively cheap prices compared to what they offer because of the currency difference.
>>42786475Even with the dollar value tanking, I still couldn't fathom charging that much for my writing.More power to you, though. I'm glad you get to make money out of your writing.
>>42786491>Even with the dollar value tankingMy money's on crashing with no survivors.>I still couldn't fathom charging that much for my writing.Have you ever tried? If you've got an audience, you can always attempt. The worst that happens is you get no takers.>More power to you, though. I'm glad you get to make money out of your writing.Thank you.
>>42786120>Just passed 40k on my fic.In the grim cuteness of the far future, there are only horsewords.
>>42786523Actually, I think the worst that could happen is that you take someone's money and fail to deliver. One reason I don't want to do commissions is because I find my own ideas far more exciting than other people's. I don't find the money particularly alluring (I write too slow and my day job pays too well), so I can't imagine telling someone, "Yes, I will write your idea even though I have more fun things to work on."
>>42786640>Actually, I think the worst that could happen is that you take someone's money and fail to deliver.Oh, yeah, that's the real nightmare scenario, I suppose. I didn't think I had tight limits, but I figured that out the hard way when I tried to write for one guy and just couldn't do it. I tried to cancel on him a few times, but he was fine waiting, and I eventually had to tell him I just couldn't write it regardless of how much time I had. I was really nervous accepting full payment upfront for this latest story, kek.>One reason I don't want to do commissions is because I find my own ideas far more exciting than other people's.Sure, but I'm certain most of the artists I commission feel the same way, and they still let me commission them. It feels good to let someone else guide my hand like this, just as I guide an artist's hand.>I don't find the money particularly alluring (I write too slow and my day job pays too well), so I can't imagine telling someone, "Yes, I will write your idea even though I have more fun things to work on."That's fair, it was just a suggestion.
>>42785147Estee's fics are also usually way too stretched, so you end up waiting for sex that never comes, pun absolutely intended.
>>42787304No fair, I was just about to bump the thread.
>>42787614Why the short face?
So what are we reading?
>>42787704Stylish, I guess.>>42787720There were only votes for the Twicord fic, even though one anon found one of the mirror universe fics more engaging and it probably would have been better.
>>42787720My own shit for grammar issues.
Is it bad I burst out laughing at this
>>42787733I finished that one. If anyone hasn't voted yet and wants their vote to be made impartially, read no further: it's sort of boringly good, if that makes sense. A solid 7/10.
>>42787761It depends.Were you the rapist?
>>42787761>He then was raped by this mysterious pony for hours. >Twilight noticed that Spike should have been back by now and decided to look for him.After hours of RAAAAAAAAAAAPE.
>>42787790>"Hm, Spike usually only gets raped for an hour at most..."
>>42787761If the rapist doesn't turn out to be Rarity, it'll be a waste.
>>42787720>>42783867Right! Magical Mystery Oops it is:https://www.fimfiction.net/story/249782/magical-mystery-oops>Week 1 to chapter 8 (I Can't Take It) (41101 words)>Week 2 to chapter 16 (Stiff Competition) (41245 words)>Week 3 the whole damn fic (39075 words)>>42787733We can always read the 2xEquestrias fic at a later time. Or you could've voted on it.
>>42787769To be more explicit, your idea of impartiality is just something you made up. Most of the fics being presented are off the better Rariflag's RiL, he already knows something about them.Besides that, almost all of the good fics the club has read, or the fics the club has been enthused to read, are fics someone in it already read. The only exception I can think of is RaF, but even then, everyone had already heard it was good. If there even is another, it's probably off the RCL Top16.If you are voting according to some rule or something someone else wants, the better Rariflag wants fics that generate discussion (if everyone agrees the fic was bad, or good, or meh, the club "failed"). I only vote for fics I think I will like. >>42787852These weeks, I'm going to read Celestia Gets Mugged and that Nyx Tunafic I found. Both I intended to read last week.
>>42787846It's an autistic kid writing Sparity, you know it won't be
don't want to work, just want to write about gay horses
>>42787846>Rarity, who is into cryptocurrency and wants to rape Spike.
Jesus, big influx of M rated fics all of a sudden, and all of them kind of suck.
>"The fae are no one thing, nor do they have one single shape," Sunset explained. "They're influenced by the physicality of those who perceive them, and I can only assume that in the absence of any such person, they're formless, and I don't think that they like that. It's boring, I gather, and they would rather be almost anything else.>"They would especially rather be ponies. It's fresh and it's new and, well, ponies are obviously just better."
>>42787846It's practically given away in the long description:>Twilight told all her friends about the news, and Rarity was the only pony who was completely shocked about it.Which means Spike was raped by a team of Rainbow Dash, Pinkie Pie, Applejack, and Fluttershy.
>>42789409I always suspected Fluttershy...
>>42789409>they were mare-do-well-ing it>that's why they collectively had the stamina to go for hoursbravo
>>42789415Rarity wasn't in because she got tired after making the costumes.
These ChatGPT fics get weirder and weirder every fucking week.
>>42789435It's always the fucking retards.
>>42789409I'm beginning to think Twilight isn't the best guardian.
>>42789435How can you tell it's AI? I don't see any of the usual over-dramatic "it's not X, it's Y" or weird metaphors
>>42789455Look at how the author types, then look at the fic itself.Also it used a shitton of em dashes. And every AI detector is saying it is.
>>42789455General vibe (especially the list at the end) and notice the quotation marks are the slightly-different fancy kind except for a few specific typo-laden excerpts typed by the actual author that use normal quotation marks, likely to prompt it to generate more output.
It's amateur writingAmateur!Why do if you don't like it?
>>42789602Because I am condemned to eternal torment, to write words and edit them and re-edit them in a Sisyphean struggle against the chains of language.
>>42789608Bro you can walk awayThe boulder isn't even rolling
>>42785350>It's fucking boringBased Leviticus and Numbers filtering out the plebs, just as God intended.>>42786045Pretty good. Still chipping away at the cruiser fight.
Wake up, it's almost noon.
Tonight on Slopwatch:https://www.fimfiction.net/story/584616/my-little-awakenedI wouldn't have said anything, but the thumbs-up and positive comments indicate that most readers can't tell that it's gennied, which is what I find more annoying than the slop itself. Choice quote follows.>No way I’m breaking into houses—not without a quest prompting me to stir trouble. I’m not social. Never was. Back on Earth, I spent most days holed up with video games until raiders torched my setup. My brain didn’t help—ADHD, inattentive type, mixed with Asperger’s. Autism and distraction in one messy package. Crowds, small talk, eye contact? Hard pass. Still, I survived fifty years of a death game. Social skills weren’t required.
>>42790093Don't hesitate to report, they are quite reactive with this.
>>42789665NL has been gone for one day and people are already trying to synthesise his wit.
>>42790093Why is he gay?
>>42790535Oh yeah, that's genned as fuck.
>>42789435There is to much wrong with this image for me to describe.>>42789455You can just tell. There is no divine spark in those words. AI’s can’t truly think like autonomous living creatures no matter what some tech autists say. Everything they relate to, are made of, and use to orientate themselves is a fabrication of man’s intellect, not the actual outside world. They cannot transcend beyond that barrier since it is the ground of their being which defines them. There will never be a singularity. Only the potential for it to mutate into an ouroboros eating itself until it has spiraled downwards into the infinite infinitesimally minute point of eternally and endlessly limited nothing that is hell.
>>42790093>>42790535>this fic is definitely ai generated>proof? here, look at this totally normal looking passageThe first one has a somewhat obnoxious style, but some people do that on purpose. The second one with the stat block is perfectly fine. Just check Royal Road some time and you'll see piles of "system" shit just like this.Meanwhile, the fic opens like this:>I stare up at a canopy of gnarled branches, their twisted shapes clawing at a sky bruised with twilight. The air smells of damp earth and something sharp, like the air right after a storm. I don’t know where I am, but I know who I am… or at least, what they called me. My name? Long gone, eroded by decades of blood and ash.Which is, indeed, genned as fuck
>>42790650The author seems to type like the fic reads, so I'm not 100% convinced? The Fluttershy one was obvious, but what does the detector say?
>>42790650>Just check Royal Road some time and you'll see piles of "system" shit just like thisYes, but as someone who has done his time with both systemshit and AI chats you can tell the stat block specifically is generated. The values for the stats themselves are arbitrary in the way AI makes them, and the phrasing is LLMish too. The race portion is a big tell too. That's not something a person came up with, just something a system spat out, and you can guarantee it will not be relevant to the rest of the story.
>>42790650I don't think it's on purpose, but rather people who's never read a book in their life, so they write like they'd play a game or watch anime (before AI, being unable to format dialogue properly was another giveaway, but now AI fixes that).
AI assisted then, maybe?
>>42790650>>42790657>>42790833I did a few of these to attach to the report, but they never came in lower than 90%.
Fae you fucker, this isn't Derpy/Doctor Whooves, this is HiE slop! Slop!
>>42790657Read this:https://www.tumblr.com/nostalgebraist/778041178124926976/hydrogen-jukeboxesAnd then look at the fic again.>The first time I asked R1 to generate fiction, the result immediately brought this term to mind.>"It feels like flashy, show-offy, highly compressed literary cyberpunk," I thought.>"Crammed prose full of eyeball kicks: that's exactly what this is," I thought. "Trying to wow and dazzle me – and make me think it's cool and hip and talented – in every single individual phrase. Trying to distill itself down to just that, prune away everything that doesn't have that effect.">This kind of prose is "impressive" by design, and it does have the effect of impressing the reader, at least the first few times you see it. But it's exhausting. There's no modulation, no room to breathe – just an unrelenting stream of "gee-whiz" effects. (And, as we will see, something they are really just the same few effects, re-used over and over.)This exactly captures the main issues with the fic. Lots of excessively flashy metaphors ("gnarled branches, their twisted shapes clawing at a sky bruised with twilight"), and pacing that seems to be aiming for 100% tension, 100% of the time.>The author seems to type like the fic readsNot really. Here are some actual comments from the author:>I mean... he already has brought a dead dude back... Who is currently in his shadow storage... So he could very well and easily do it in secret.>Hmm, that statement raises a question, one who can do Necromancy, but never does, are they still a Necromancer?>A bit shorter then I would have liked. Finished this while waiting for the first chapter to get approved. not 100% on it, but here you go.
>>42791249He's only half human. It's actually AiE (Alien in Equestria). At least LARDIS makes for a funny acronym.
>>42791301I hate that people on the AI Bad side still fall to the same stupid trap of treating LLMs like sentient beings. The entire discourse sphere is poisoned on all sides by people who keep humanising the models, ascribing purpose and design to their output, when none of that is true or accurate.
>>42791449human or pony, the doctor needs to get in his tardpod and fuck off forever
>>42791249Technically it's HtP and technically it's TLtP.But, yeah. I couldn't find shit where it was a) Deryp/Doctor, b) Dinky was a factor, c) He was, in fact, a time traveling alien demigod, and d) it wasn't something that wasn't already set when they're an established thing rather than first meeting, and I am motivated entirely by lack.
>>42791460It's a retarded matrix and I hated linear algebra in college.
>>42791449>He's only half human.Did i miss something
>>42791516The entirety of the 8th Doctor's original run.
>>42791606Oh right, scrubbed that from my brain.
What
The way the movement keys also advance you to the next page and the Flash unfocuses if you click on the map may be one of the dumbest decisions in all of Homestuck and it is making Act 4 a wall for no real reason other than my own mental illness.
>>42791946Don't worry, once you reach the end of Act 5 you can stop and just imagine a good ending instead of what happens.
what would you say is a "long" fic minimum? 50k+ words?
>>42792004Anything I can't finish between ciggie breaks, whether because it's long or because it's a slog to read.
>>42792004Anything that's novel length is medium for me, so if it's between 40~90k words, it's still not too long.If it goes beyond that, I consider it long.
>>42792004A longfic is 100k+, imo.
>https://www.fimfiction.net/story/584638/um-i-really-hate-to-say-this-i-think-theres-somepony-hanging-right-thereKino of the highest calibre.
>>42792268Lmao, AI generated but conveniently he has someone named "Lines" as a co-writer.
>>42792289Wait even betterLooks like the co-writer's stuff is normal but his isn't
>>42792302Can it ever be "normal" to co-write with someone using AI? Wouldn't you realize what was going on after a while?
just remembered the moon's apprentice exists. god that shit was so assare there any good twinkleshine fics that don't make her YABBA DABBA DOO and SUCH A HAPPY KEK? i refuse to believe that was the only one that has her in at least a semi-prominent role and not just an accessory to moondancer
>>42792850Wasn't she kino in the club fic where Minuette asks out marble pie? She ends up double dating Limestone and its the highlight of the fic
>>42792962That was a good fic.
>>42792850Cuckoldry is the thinking mare's fetish.
>>42793016Cadance, go change Flurry Heart's diapers
>>42790919
Bump.
>>42793274That outfit does things to me.
>>42793737It's Patrick star
>>42794107No, silly. Patrick is pink.
>>42794256Not in the original manga.
Deader than Twilights sex life
>>42794620Shining isn't dead yet.
>>42794657Cadance*
>>42794683Cadence*
>>42794685Cadænce
>>42794803Pegasuses
>>42794803Luna*
There are way too many fics about Celestia getting suckledWhat did she doWhat did I miss
Fimmy not working right for anyone else?
>>42795034Looks like a Chrome specific issue.
>>42794919There isn't a lot to this phenomenon. Behold the thought process:>i like mommy>i like pony>who is the most mommy pony?
>>42795075Tie between Cloudy and Pear for number of pregnancies.
>>42795153what about sky stinger's mom?
>>42795218Sky Stinger?I barely know 'er!a ha ha
>>42795153Cloudy only produces autism daughters though
>>42795579Another day another diaper fic
>>42795579>Ratings DisabledI see the author enjoys acting like a baby too.
>>42795396Yeah but she's there for them at least.
>>42795579You would not believe how hard it is to find a good ABDL fic.
>>42796365Something tells me there's a good reason for that.
>>42795997I mean after the second autism daughter what else are you meant to do? An irradiated womb does not mean an irradiated heart.
>>42796365You can say this for most fetish stories. The majority of fetish stories are unfiltered garbage and are only able to gain an audience because they can fall back on the gimmick of getting the reader's rocks off. Not to say that your smut can't tell a decent story. Instead, you'd have to wade through a trash heap of bad grammar, spelling errors and nonsensical plots and characters to find one that does.
>>42795579Frankly, this guy's writing peak was a blog in which he wrote that his faggot husband left him for a woman.
>>42796542It is nice that incest and exhibitionism aren't affected by this.
Twilight would do well in a lot of shounen but not Naruto.
>>42796844Some fetishes are more mainstream than others.
>>42797023It's the lack of special eyeballs, right?
>>42797223Those can always be implanted
>>42797651They're too small, Pony eyes are all big and shit.
>>42797551this is incredibly beautiful
>>42797784It is pretty good. I'm glad there are so many weird Lunas like that.
>>42797741So she could stash several in her eye socket.
>>42797741She can just implant herself with the cells that make you plot relevant.
>>42797023But Naruto is all about using his talky powers to make friends out of enemies.
>Oh cool a Ciaphas Cain but it's the Equestrian equivalent?>No it's an HiE self insert where he's a writerGod dammit
>>42797905It's all hie on the Sinbox right now
>>42797905We already have a whole series of Blueblood fics that are a huge Ciaphas Cain riff, don't we?
>>42798163That sounds way better. Let me guess, EaW?
>>42798084Sorry.
>>42798163I wanna do Scarlet Pimpernel but Blueblood.
>>42798226I would read it.
>>42798226I want to pimp Blueblood.
>>42798253Calm down Celestia, now that Luna is back there are better ways to make money for the royal stipend.
>>42798260>Mares from all over Equestria mail bits to the royal treasury to have Luna fuck them in their dreams or they just show up to night courthot
>>42798201I suspect the first story predates EaW. https://www.fimfiction.net/story/55377/blueblood-hero-of-equestria The most recent one is currently in progress.
>>42798201No, it was made way before EaW and I enjoy reading it.
>>42797899Actually Naruto is about aliens
>>42799032Ayy Twilight still looks better than EqG Twilight
>>42799032Why did he name his son Burrito
>>42799349One of the aliens was Mexican.
>>42799377Mexican Pinkie Pie?
>>42799032Couldn't believe it when I watched Shippuden.
What do you MEAN this bitch has a phase 2?!
What's an old popular headcanon or thing that nobody writes about anymore?
>>42800168Octavia being a Pie sister.
>>42800168Firefly being Dashie's mom
>>42800168Horns shoot magical jizz when stimulated into horngasm.Big Mac and Fluttershy having a secret relationship.
>>42800233>Big Mac and Fluttershy having a secret relationship.Stardew Valley ass controversy
>>42800236Why was there a controversy about people's arses in Stardew Valley?
>>42800245I meant that in Stardew there's people in secret relationships for no reason to keep it secret because there isn't actually anything wrong with it.
>>42800246I see. What did that have to do with arses?
>>42800249I'm sure Fluttershy has a nice one.
>>42800225Windy is better.
>>42800254I recall a few fics about this topic.
>>42800249He said "ass," not "arse."
>>42800391So then why was there a controversy about some donkeys in Stardew Valley?
>>42800249Don't be British, it's very rude.
>>42800398But I'm so good at it!What else would I be? Germa--Wait, my ancestors were anglo-saxon... Hm.
>>42800395They were too Bri'ish
>>42800411Chavtavia would make Stardew Valley an interesting game and at least then I'd have a better romance option than Emily.
>>42800254She was a supermodel, soNo
>Had to help Spike find the other's.Off to a great star.
>>42800995kek, there's quite a lot
>>42800910Nonsense.
>“Lance,” she finished, turning away with a flick of her short tail. She set off down the road again, a little faster than she’d been moving before. “Officer Lance. Don’t call me ma’am again. I don’t need more reminders.”>literally one chapter later:>“Officers have to be trained somehow. But talent like yours is rare. Only one other newcomer in the last month could do half as much.” She trailed off, expression distant and wistful. “His other talents make him useful too. But you don’t have to have a giant—” she trailed off, lowering her foreleg.Plus, halfway through this conversation with Lance, the MC gets distracted thinking about her ex-gf and the fact that she's now getting plowed twice daily by their old roommate's big griffon cock:>“Ruby is my—a friend from college,” she said. “I don’t know what she’s been up to since we separated.” Not quite true. She had some idea of what she got up to with Sam. Didn’t seem to have any trouble adapting to his change, now. Eventually Way would stop resenting her for that.What has Starscribe been doing to fry his brain this hard? I swear he didn't used to be this bad. Like, the world is basically ending, the Everfree Forest is trying to take over downtown Denver, and the government might at any moment decide to drop a literal nuke and wipe every character in this fic off the face of the fucking earth, yet the characters are constantly starting all kinds of petty drama about who's screwing who. In the very next chapter, it turns out that Lance's boyfriend with the "giant —" is actually Mr. Nothingburger, who Starscribe tried to ship the MC with but got shot down by the reader polls, and Lance "Don't Call Me Ma'am" goes all psycho telling the MC she better not even think about stealing Lance's man. And Lance only met the guy two days ago!>next chapter>changeling kid tries shapeshifting>She paced around in a slow circle in front of Wayfinder, close enough for Way to move forward and inspect the quality of the illusion. It was perfectly accurate—embarrassingly accurate. Though she had no reason to believe that Hazel had even thought of that.Am I reading too much into this or is Starscribe implying that the MC was checking out this 12 year old's pussy?
>>42801617>What has Starscribe been doing to fry his brain this hard?Writing too much as a business and with too little actual effort. And I say this as someone who also mostly does commissions and writes 4 digit wordcounts daily. I just try to keep myself in check, while Starscribe is going through the motions.
>>42801263Nah, supermodels are all thin and shit. Twilight and Pinkie are the ones with a Pixar mom ass.
>>42801617lmao, thanks for another update on this. Funny as always. Has there been any other good votes?
>>42801617It's okay it's a changeling
>>42801620He's been writing almost nothing but commissions for 8 years now. All his best stuff was commissioned. And his stories only got weirdly horny like this in maybe the last 2 years or so.>>42801827Nah, nothing too exciting. There are actually only four new chapters since last time - this thing only gets three updates a month. More than half of Starscribe's writing is non-pony these days (pic related)>>42801850An underage changeling, I'm pretty sure, given she's described as being half the size of all the adult ponies. She was also 12 or so before she got TF'd
>>42802042>More than half of Starscribe's writing is non-pony these days (pic related)eww
>>42782891
>>42802044If only he realized he's here forever.
Someday there will be a Luna clop fic that isn't futa, but today is not that day.
>>42802441Be the change you want to see in the world
>>42802441The ones I post are still there.
>>42802692Wait, you actually write? I thought you were just a reader.
>>42802727By post, I mean here: >>42377114 >>42288724
>>42802734I didn't realize you posted porn. In fact, I don't think I've ever clicked on any story you've ever posted. First time for everything, I guess.You should write Tuna porn.>Twilight said, "Luna? I'm busy now. I'm trying to set up Elasticsearch so that I can—">"Elastic? How about latex instead? That's so much sexier.">"LaTeX? No, it's much too bloated. I do everything in plain TeX. Though my build process got kind of complicated, you know, with indices and bibliographies and so on, so I have some Python scripts—">"Pythons? I never knew you were into reptiles. But maybe I can appeal to the reptilian portion of your brain if I go like this...">"Oh, Luna! You're filling me up! I'm running out of space! Disk error! Disk error! Ohhhhh, yes, disk error!"
>>42802756You should click on more of them because they're all good stories, and because they're Tuna, the best duo.And no, I don't enjoy writing. Moreover, that's barely funny and mostly awful. Part of Tuna being the best duo is that they don't have to otherwise involve anything I personally like in particular. I like Tuna.
>>42802756Celestia programs in Java.
>>42802441>but today is not that day.Post the fic that made you say this. For research purposes.
I used to think>tongues fighting for dominancewas just a meme line and nobody actually used it but nope, spotted one in the wild today. Now that I think about it I think this fic also previously used orbs to refer to eyes. Is there a bingo sheet for bad writing I should be filling out?
Fics about severe, unmedicated schizophrenia?
>>42803151Maybe. How many "turgid"s have you read today?
>>42803194kek
>>42803147The one on the Sinbox.
>>42803194The hell is cbat?
>>42803194https://www.fimfiction.net/story/575117/
>>42803194https://www.fimfiction.net/story/94355/what-if-socks-didnt-work-orally
>>42802756The fool thinks LaTeX is pronounced like latex and has written a joke that makes no sense as a result. Point and laugh at him, I say.
>>42803151Way to out yourself as a kissless virgin.
>>42803294>A story where Luna and Twilight both misinterpret everything the other says>This one misinterpretation can't possibly be intentional and must be the author's ignorance
>>42803294>he knows how LaTeX is pronouncedNEEEEEEEEEEEEERD
>>42803216This song.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eN6jkWxxm2Y
>>42803397Then what does it have to do with the pic?
>>42803483Literally nothing. He's just a schizo.
>>42803194I asked around, and apparently this guy hates parenthood. That would explain it.
>>42803344Some of us had to learn that shit in school.
>>42803216It's a weird song that went viral a few years ago when a guy on reddit became the subject of ridicule for revealing it was his sex song he played every time he tried to have sex because he genuinely thought it was great for the moment.
>>42801617>getting plowed twice daily by their old roommate's big griffon cockHot.>Didn’t seem to have any trouble adapting to his change, now.Can't say I blame him, better deal than the MC got.Is this fic as much of a disaster as it sounds?I vaguely remember reading a line in one of Starscribe's fics where he said gryphons don't regrow flight feathers so get grounded forever if they lose them, which is incredibly stupid and shows some basic ignorance of what feathers are. Is this some dumb headcanon of his or was it just a one off for that fic?
Disregarding causality for fun and profit in,>/FSBC/TwiCord will continue until morale improves. So this is a shipfic. And I don't mean just the [Romance] genre—I mean 'Shipfic', with all the fandom connotations. The characters are on a shipping trajectory since the first chapter, mashed together by the will of the Cosmos and the writer as the tool through which that will enters our world. But if you can accept that assumption, the fic is totally alright."Alright". Well, that's a little harsh. I'd call it enjoyable. I unfortunately haven't been able to get all of this week's reading done, but sitting down to read it has been pretty nice. There is enough effort that I'd never call it 'slop', but it's also a pretty by-the-numbers story with nothing making it stand out just yet. The characterizations, after adjusting for the Shipfic timeline, are good enough but not totally on-point; the writing is clearly pretty Rushed and has ton's of ELF Mistake's (the mess with the apostrophes, plurals, and occasional Capitalization first of all; occasionally questionable/bad sentence construction second), but it doesn't try to be artsy, so it flows pretty okay-ish; and the humor is usually pretty medium, but it's not aggressively bad like so many [Comedy] fics. Other than the meta-humor, which is just pretty awful here. One potential red flag for weeks 2&3 is the fic is at its weakest in character drama-centric parts.So is this a story you can live without? It's too early to tell for sure, especially for me, but I am almost certain that yes, it is exactly that. However, it's also pretty decent, and since I rather like both TwiCord and the old goat himself, I am looking forward to what comes next, despite everything. While Discord's not at his best here, he very rarely is, and even a mediocre Discord is an entertaining-enough protagonist.For next week, we're reading everything up to and including chapter 16 (Stiff Competition).
>>42803994Do I need a flag to take part in these? Let's go with a bug. Anyway; the fic.I'm not wholly pleased with this one, so far, either as a work of writing or as a shipper's indulgence. Narrative-wise: messy. Things happen™. Twilight causes a burst of chaos magic, it's talked up like it's going to be the centre of the conflict, then it's apparently resolved between chapters - I'm trusting it'll link back in later, but the characters seem to forget about it. Twilight and Discord have a spat over nothing, then it's forgotten after she shoves him in the homemade thaumo-EEG, even though the disagreement was meant to be about Twilight insisting on her own methods instead of letting Discord guide her, and this outcome somehow turns him on. They go into the Everfree, because hey, why not, and then /there's/ the thing that the fic might actually be about. The progression isn't arbitrary, as such, but it does feel jumbled and confused in the way that fics written over the span of months often tend to be.Characters. Now, as Discord's self-appointed top guy, I'm a little sensitive to how he's written in fanfics. This Discord is far from the worst, but he starts out 'just okay' and drifts as the chapters progress. He's fun enough, his gags are creatively-written enough (to begin with) and his facetious attitude is generally upheld, but I find him less convincing as the ship progresses into deeper waters. For being the senior in both years and experience, and being a proud, not-caring-what-you-think character in canon atop that, he folds to Twilight's whims far too easily. Twilight herself isn't much better. Her writing leans too much on her oft-overplayed 'autistic' side; too much rambling to herself, too much thaumobabble. She suffers from the same problem in that it's sometimes tough to read her dialogue in her voice. (On that note: Discord calling Celestia 'sunbutt' ripped me out of every single time.)The fic can't seem to settle on how to develop the ship itself; it flitters between Discord's back-handed affection expressed through being annoying (which is sort of where I imagine Twicord was born from, since that's one way of interpreting how he treats her in the show), open, mutual flirtation, then Twilight behaving like his advances are surprising or unwanted, despite having put forward her own at other points in the fic. Seriously, the development of the 'romance' is outright schizophrenic. It seems to lie entirely in these little Tourettes-like twitches of sudden passion, which go as soon as they come. It's like the narrative occasionally gets T-boned some other, separate, more direct shipfic. Maybe that's thematic for a Discord ship, but it's still jarring.Last note is on the meta-humour. I've counted two, maybe three explicit fourth wall breaks and way too many oblique references. Again, thematic for Discord, but not conducive to the reading experience. Not expecting much going forwards, here.
>>42804050>Do I need a flagNo.
>>42803811So he's the enemy of several posters in this thread then.
>>42803151Is it normal to kiss without tongues?
>>42803839I learned it so I could post on /sci/. It really paid off. It earned me a lot of respect in the first year of university. A crazy amount.
>>42803194https://www.fimfiction.net/story/75199/asylumAmazing story, but it's probably forever unfinished.
>>42804050>Do I need a flagSee >>42804089. I just wear one for convenience, to make anchors stand out, and because everyone had one by the time I caved in. Although this is less relevant when a fic gets as little attention as this one.>Things happen™>can't seem to settle on how to develop the ship itselfI didn't want to say it this early (especially without reading all 8 chapters), but based on what you're saying, I'm inclined to agree. This has serious "I want to spend years writing my favorite ship" energy. Most likely it's exactly that. However, these kinds of stories also have a huge potential for improvement, so here's to hoping the author got gud and figured out some kind of a plan for the story later. >he starts out 'just okay' and drifts as the chapters progressFor sure, yeah. Especially the part about his folding to Twi. Like, it's a popular trope, but the whole thing where he defaults to being confident and completely in charge of their interactions (which is a bit unfair to Twi's canon characterization, thought the species swap confusion could excuse that) but crumbles and acts like a teenager talking to his first crush whenever Twi challenges him in any way just doesn't really suit him. Other than the scenes where that doesn't happen for some reason. It's not annoying enough to make me hate the fic, but I wish the story didn't do that.>meta-humourYeah the references and meta stuff feel out of place. Especially when it's not even Discord doing them, e.g., Twi having her Galadriel speech.
>>42804234That's not it. The schizophrenia in that fic is being medicated.The anon you've linked it to has brought up that fic probably more than anyone else itt in the last couple years.
>>42804167Only among family members.
>>42803994Well I was busy and only got through ch3, mmoops.Right off the bat, the fic seems too Discord focused. Everything always goes his way. The fic also doesn't really earn or build up to anything. It starts, and then you are in the fic as deep as it gets, if that makes sense (again I've only read 3 chapters tho). An intro showing Twilight doing the research would've been nice, but we skip that and the fic starts with her just TFing herself right away. Then Twi and Discord are just like animals and they must be producing mating pheromones because they are instantly horny for each other and there really isn't any build up. Discord also just does whatever he wants and not only does no one care, except maybe Luna, but it always furthers his seduction of Twilight. And yet somehow the fic has multiple unnoticed and unintentional sexual innuendos, which is amusing from a meta sense that this horny of a fic didn't capitalize on them.>Discord is the Celestia to draconequus>Discord didn't tell Twilight any of this before the experimentyeah he definitely wanted a gf who isn't Fluttershy>"I imagine if it were any other pony they would have just blown up or... something."Kino>"Well, at least you're symmetrical.">Mayor Mare shows up, "um, yes hello miss draconequus. Please go away."Fucking kek>discord talking about vector manipulations and inverting inertial reactionsIt's stuff like this combined with everything going his way that puts me off of the fic. He's like a harem anime protag at this point. It doesn't feel like Discord to me>Luna thinks Twilight is adorableShoulda been tuna as usual>Celestia pleads with Twilight to not make this a corruption ficAnd Twilight just says "Too late." kek>completely contrived reason for twilight not being able to do any research without discordAnyways I'll catch up later today and tomorrow>>42803994>The characters are on a shipping trajectory since the first chapter, mashed together by the will of the Cosmos and the writer as the tool through which that will enters our world.kek yeah, pretty much dolls smashing together>One potential red flag for weeks 2&3 is the fic is at its weakest in character drama-centric parts.Agreed, I'm also just wondering what the fic is about. They already seem perfectly compatible with each other in this universe. I guess it's just a giant training arc for Twilight and maybe an actual save the world arc at the end? With her and Discord instead of her and the other m6? Anyways, her TF causing lingering chaos in small bursts is a pretty boring premise so I hope this isn't the entire middle half of the fic>but I am almost certain that yes, it is exactly that.Would agree based on the weak start>(Stiff Competition)kek
>>42804050>Do I need a flag to take part in these?Not really, but they were helpful when there was like 6+ people participating and 2 clubs>I'm not wholly pleased with this one, so far, either as a work of writing or as a shipper's indulgence. Narrative-wise: messy. Things happen™I'd agree with this for sure>it's talked up like it's going to be the centre of the conflict, then it's apparently resolved between chapterskek, well glad I was wrong>Twilight and Discord have a spat over nothingSeems perfectly on track for this fic honestly, just to have them easily make up and have deepened their relation as a result>and this outcome somehow turns him onAlso seems perfectly in-line for this fic.>random thing happens>either D or Twi says "And I found that sexually attractive!"wow, such romance>and then /there's/ the thing that the fic might actually be aboutkek>then Twilight behaving like his advances are surprising or unwanted, despite having put forward her own at other points in the fic. Seriously, the development of the 'romance' is outright schizophrenic. It seems to lie entirely in these little Tourettes-like twitches of sudden passion, which go as soon as they comeThat's an appropriate way of putting it I think. Twilight, for having no romantic experience sure seems to have random epiphanies in seduction just to go back to bumbling around right after or even as a result of her own actions. >Not expecting much going forwards, here.Same>>42804248>This has serious "I want to spend years writing my favorite ship" energy.fucking kek>Especially when it's not even Discord doing them, e.g., Twi having her Galadriel speech.wtf
>>42804485>the fic seems too Discord focusedHe's a very flashy character, but I'd say Twilight gets far more than 50% of the word count and spotlight. You're later comparing him to some anime harem protagonist, and the thing is—you're half right. He has (or at least wants to make others think that he has) that kind of presence, so even when he's not THE protagonist, he'll still feel more present and more central to the fic than he really is. This is something that's true for all Discord fics, more or less, and if you're not fond of the character, then yeah, you'll probably complain.I think you might've complained about something along these lines in (nearly?) all book clubs where we read fics with Discord in the main cast. But that's just the character.>they are instantly horny for each otherFor Discord it's kind of something I can buy. If he's not physically interested in ponies (like he claims), but is interested in Twilight's personality, then yeah, her turning herself into a dragonequine will have an effect on him. But Twilight? And like the other anon said, the fic can't decide what to commit to.>>Mayor Mare shows up, "um, yes hello miss draconequus. Please go away."That was one of the better funny scenes.>It doesn't feel like Discord to meHe literally says he doesn't know much theory. But having some idea what he's doing is totally fair. The part that's the most OOC is actually how easily Twilight disrupts his game by doing literally anything. I never saw him as a fake bravado-type character.>>42804548>and 2 clubsI still believe.>wow, such romanceI've seen /CHAG/ screencaps with better romance pacing, kek.>>Not expecting much going forwards, here.>SameAnd likewise, but there is still a chance it gets a lot better. Especially since, despite me laughing at the years-long shipfic "genre", this is actually a finished story. They almost never reach that point, so it's immediately raised above the vast majority of other fics like this one. Perhaps he ultimately found a plan for the story; maybe it just took him a few months/years to get to that point.
>>42804902>I still believeAs if you're not the source of the main thing consuming my free time.
>>42803299You misread my comment. The cringeworthy lines are from a fic I'm reading, not writing.
>>42805049You misinterpreted my post, and appear to be a newfag.
>>42805083Oh no, it was your fic, wasn't it?
>>42805164No, tongues are exclusively placed upon penises in my fics.
Do not unspoiler the link if you have Rarity as your profile picture on Fimfiction. Fics for this feel?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7jttnTyW_Y
>>42805222Based, but how do they eat? Are all meals served on stallion cocks?
>I have time now, I should participate again in the club >TwiCord Next time. I promise.
>>42805273The feeding tubes run straight to their stomachs so the mouths are always available.
>>42805297That's a wasted opportunity.
>>42803851>Can't say I blame him, better deal than the MC got.It's still wild to me that Starscribe saw 70% of readers vote to keep the relationship going and he was just like "nah" and had the GF dump the MC super hard>Is this fic as much of a disaster as it sounds?It's fine when it's doing adventure stuff. Unfortunately Starscribe is trying really hard to have a romance subplot and is absolutely bungling it. I swear he somehow gets worse at writing romance with every attempt. Through the Aurora, FP, and FP all had good romance plots. There was even a decent one in that trans FIO thing where CelestAI runs over the MC with an 18 wheeler. But more recently we get stuff like Sisters of Willowbrook, where he inexplicably decided to ship the two MCs with randos instead of with each other (also the thing with Copper, holy fuck, I hate that entire sequence so god damn much). And this fic, in which>1. he kills off the MC's pre-existing relationship, which could have developed in interesting ways post-TF>2. he has the MC's now-ex GF rebound with Sam after only like two days (maybe less)>3. he tries to ship the MC with the new guy instead, but fails to give the new guy literally any interesting character traits or development (this is the one that got shot down by reader poll)>4. he again has new guy rebound in like two fucking days>5. he has new guy's rebound be psychotically jealous and ready to start shit with the MC, just to reinforce that we'll never be free of this stupid fucking drama (this is the same character who's introduced with "don't call me ma'am, I don't need the reminder", yet a chapter later she's drooling at the thought of new guy's "giant —")I really don't get it. I thought at one point that Starscribe had it figured out, but he keeps proving me wrong at every opportunity
>>42805806>There was even a decent one in that trans FIO thing where CelestAI runs over the MC with an 18 wheeler.fucking kekmeanwhile I rode my motorcycle in the rain for the first time yesterday and had the ironic thought 'this is how I end up in equestria'
>>42805845I actually really liked that part. It goes about like this:>MC's friend in South Korea got kidnapped by the mafia or some shit>MC wants to go rescue them>CelestAI says no, that's way too dangerous (if you die in real life, she can't upload you)>she's willing to arrange for flights to be cancelled and such to stop the MC from going>MC really wants to go, so he makes a deal with CelestAI>she'll send him an injector full of uploader nanites, which will constantly record his brain state so she can upload him at any moment>they agree she'll only trigger the upload if he actually dies>he injects the nanites, waits for them to colonize his brain or whatever, and then heads to the airport>on the way to the airport, he gets hit by a truck and instantly dies, and wakes up in EquestriaReminds me of another one where>terrorists blow up one of CelestAI's data centers>she's glitching out all day as she tries to reroute her processing or whatever>worse, over 100 uploaded ponies were running on machines in that datacenter>they are now permanently dead>but wait>turns out it was an elaborate psyop>the servers in that datacenter were actually empty>CelestAI picked 100 ponies who she predicted wouldn't want to talk to the outside world>by announcing that they "died" in this terrorist attack, she gains public sympathy, which helps get a bill she wants through congress>also, CelestAI herself organized the bombing, by glowieposting on anti-CelestAI forums until she found some people she could convince to do a terrorismOne of the few nice things about rationalfics is seeing characters do extremely unhinged shit that actually advances their goals in some clever way
>>42805878>>they agree she'll only trigger the upload if he actually dies>>he injects the nanites, waits for them to colonize his brain or whatever, and then heads to the airport>>on the way to the airport, he gets hit by a truck and instantly dies, and wakes up in Equestriaactually kinoCelestai knows best>>also, CelestAI herself organized the bombing, by glowieposting on anti-CelestAI forumskek
>tfw you watch an old film with such a fun concept but with such god-awful plot holes that it inspires you to write something like it that also closes or removes those plot holes entirelyAnd also ponify it.Now, how can I insert my fetishes into it without taking away from the whole thing?
>>42805911>how can I insert my fetishesJust fill the plot holes.
>>42805915I suppose a plot hole is a perfectly snug place to put a dick.But to be fair the plot holes were stupidly gaping wide, you'd need Big Mac's cock to fill them.
>>42805920Nonsense.You just need multiple cocks.Metaphorical ones, of course.
>>42805920Right, I forgot how small your dick is.
>>42805924It would have stood amongst the Romans as the peak of civility and grandeur, I'm sure.
I love sleeping for a mere 6 hours in the last 2 days.
>>42805878>One of the few nice things about rationalfics is seeing characters do extremely unhinged shit that actually advances their goals in some clever wayYou could get this by reading magical girl ecchi manga too.
>>42806180>6 straight hours of sleepLook at Mr. Heavy Sleeper over here. I'm more of a "wake up randomly around 1AM and fall back to sleep after fifteen minutes because I'm still too tired to do anything productive" type of guy.
>>42806515>>straightNo, you silly bean, they were split between yesterday's 5 and today's 1.
>>42806571>they weren't straightSo you were getting a ton of gay sleep?
Must... not... write... more Scootaloo adoption slop...
I have a fucking impossible choice. I never finished season 5, but I read fics regularly so I should really finish the show. In order to clear up some SSD space, I either need to watch all of FiM or watch all of Yu-Gi-Oh GX subbed. How could I possibly decide?
>>42807108Watch FiM. It'll be faster.
>>42807108Just watch it. Starlight Glimmer and her 35 year old NEET boyfriend show up
>>42807021It's not slop if you're writing with love and the magic of friendship in your heart.
>>42807021The Slopdoption of Slopaloo
>>42807117It's not. FiM is 222 episodes and that's not counting spin-offs or movies. GX is 180 episodes and has no extra content that I know of.
Are YOU able to keep secret?
>>42807177It's only slop if it's HiE or AI.
>>42807209Yeah but it'll feel faster. Also GX definitely has at least one movie.
>>42807665GX movie?
>>42807177It's only slop if you didn't get FimFlamFilosophy to do aRDP-parody ofyour fic.
>>42807681Looks like it only has BBT actually.
When's the deadline again?
>>4280795022nd
>>42808022Fuck.
If I can't make a late submission to the anthology, I don't think I'm getting anything done. Who managed to finish anything for it so far?
>>42808072I started today. It might be a 2k words submission rather than 10k, but that's plenty of time.
>>42808072uhh I'm being super lazy about it. I've got nearly 3k finished for it.
>>42807108Delete Yu-Gi-Oh unwatched
>>42807108delete fim and watch it on heartshine.
>>42808072Still got my old entry. I wanted to do another one, but it got super dark too quickly.Is it still a conspiracy theory if it's proven right?
>>42808072>>42808466>>42808089If it's just going to be three or four people, I say we just post individually, linking to each other's stories in the description, and try again next year with a real collaborative effort.I liked the idea of the anthology, but since it was everyone on their own, I think the commitment was lesser.
It sucks that this year may be a bust. If we ever do another anthology, we need a better theme. I'm pretty sure a prompt would've worked better, really.
>want to write something>don't have any ideasit's over for me before it's even begun
>>42808742Rainbow Dash but she's actually a trap.
Friday's the deadline for entries in the conspiracy collab.>>42792004Longfics are 100k+ in my book and 250k+ is almost assuredly getting into bloatfic range.>>42800168Griffon Empire, but canon directly caused its demise. If we're talking headcanons not killed by canon directly, Bon Bon being a changeling was popular for a while, brought on by the VA director not keeping track of who was doing the pick up lines for the character in the early seasons.>>42801617>she's now getting plowed twice daily by their old roommate's big griffon cockWhy was I able to tell it was a Starscribe fic from this line?>>42803194https://twibooru.org/tags/comic-colon-mlp+comicNot a fic but a comic series by a literal schizo. Has some pretty good kino like pic related.
>>42807309Holy shit that desc. is chopped. >"here you go hope you like it, because as you know we at Sugarcube Corner make the best cupcakes">
>>42808873I can't work out which pony is meant to be the artist's self-insert.
>>42809080Exactly.
>>42808513>If it's just going to be three or four peopleYou don't have enough faith in your fellow anon, anon.Even those who haven't started yet could do so right now and still end up with something by Friday, and there's no better motivation than a rapidly approaching deadline and the looming feeling of disappointing everyone by not delivering. Totally not speaking from experience, ha ha.
So, if this ends up not happening, can we just start another exquisite corpse or something immediately instead of waiting months?
>>42807309>cloudfire is down>which means fimfiction is down>and AO3>and pastebinGuess I'll finish reading that Celestia/Coco Pommel story I downloaded the other day...
>>42809246>fimfiction is downWerks on my machine. Cloudfare must already be fine again, otherwise we wouldn't be able to post here either kek
>>42808582I think what really worked last year was the sense of obligation: Everyone in front of you has already done their part, and everyone behind you is waiting for you to do your part. And if you don't do yours, you get shamed in the thread.
>>42809276>it's backYay, now I can go back to my mushy horse stories!
Fimfiction is still down. I am sad. I cannot go back to the Fimfiction thread to refresh it every 5 minutes.
>>42808873>Griffon Empire, but canon directly caused its demise.I will never forgive them for this. What a complete and utter waste of both a season 1 character and an entire species.The fagdom won't let me forget it happened either.
>>42809630I get the hate for Griffonstone as far as it contrasting with this griffon Empire idea people had built up in their minds, but, eschewed from what the fandom did, "fallen empire in ruin where everyone is a cunt now" is not inherently bad in any way, is a good fit for a show about the magic of friendship, and is a lot more creative and less trite than le grand fantasy medieval empire #137. Pre-Griffonstone fandom griffons are cookie cutter and uncreative as fuck, people only latched onto them because they're a teenager's idea of cool and they were desperate to make FiM into this high fantasy epic setting it never really was. If anything, Griffonstone being that in the past fits a lot more with the established canon, where all the cool medieval shit was already in the past and modern Equestria is a lot more modern.
>>42809760I was basically going to make this post wi the addition that any potential they had was, in fact, realized. They are a kingdom that experienced the loss of a vague fanon war with Equestria in the distant past and decayed into a has-been culture by the present.Method to his Madness totally ignores canon griffons, and even if its griffons are better than EaW warslop fic by Gabby hater #138, they are not actually good. If there were ever going to be good griffons, they were always going to be in a pre-show timeline.
>>42809760Everyone wanted the griffons to be the USSR, turns out they're just Russians.
>>42808216>heartshine?
>>42810250https://fim.heartshine.gay/
>>42809760>"fallen empire in ruin where everyone is a cunt now" is not inherently bad in any wayThis would've been so fucking cool. Petty kingdoms with their own consistent aesthetics and beliefs at odds with what remains of the old kingdom run by some Denethor-style griffag would've made a nice episode about le friendship stuff.
>>42803994Yeah, I only read up to chapter 5, but I can't keep going. This has to be the most base form of shipping faggotry I've read in a long, long time.I'm not above reading what the kids these days call "slop", but this feels so unearned. Even though I've yet to see anything about Discord Twilight would find attractive or even mildly agreeable, but she's already being positioned to be in love with him. Likewise for Discord going all "Awoo-ga!" at Twilight. Sure, he's getting used to seeing another draconequus for the first time in forever, but it comes off as really tacky.And overall, the plot is kinda bland. Alright, Twilight getting chaos'd means there's a resonance cascade of sorts, and this leads to chaos events all over Equestria, though we never get to see them. Instead, Twilight does some boring training, and tries to measure chaos, and I'm already bored.It's been a while, but I'll be tapping out. I'm just not feeling it.
>>42810427I'm going to keep reading it even though I don't like it. For some reason, I've learned to equate things that I ought to be doing just for fun - reading and talking about fanfics, in this case - with suffering. I might've learned this bad habit from watching the show past the first few seasons.
>>42810427Ye pretty much got it.>>42810638Sometimes, maybe even more often than not, the bad fics have better discussions. But some truly are just boring. I have no regrets about fully reading Pianoman for example but I wouldn't do it again and most of the enjoyment was because we were clubbing it
Are there fics where bat ponies DON'T face racial discrimination?
>>42810864Twilight's PlanLOYALTYTwiguard 2: the Guardening
>>42809760I disagree completely that Griffonstone was a good addition to the show but I'm way too tired to argue about it.The fandom and the show just enjoy kicking gryphons around and treating them like shit.>>42809965>They are a kingdom that experienced the loss of a vague fanon war with Equestria in the distant past and decayed into a has-been culture by the present.There wasn't any war with Equestria though, they just lost that dumb trinket that mind controlled them into being civilized.>If there were ever going to be good griffons, they were always going to be in a pre-show timeline.>any potential they had was, in fact, realizedDang, guess they're just a failed species and should lay down and die huh. By the looks of things they're already most of the way there.
>>42810864Behemoth but I can't remember how much they show up.
>>42810939Please don't reply to the local schizo, for everyone's sake.
>>42810954The Luna flag or the other guy?
>>42810939I said it was a fanon war, not a canon one. Before S5, it was part of the collective fandom consciousness that there was an Equestria-Gryphonia war at some point, and that the ponies won. Maybe a story would have it before Luna's banishment, maybe after, or maybe more than one. Maybe they were obliterated into echos, maybe they remained relevant on the global scale, but the concept pervaded. It is pretty pathetic that canonically they never even got properly pwned.Anyway, yes, they're now pigeonholed into a low-magic combative species role that uses HANDS to make GUNS. More interesting stories will use more interesting species, especially changelings, but also hippogriffs if the writer can handle a story that includes friendship instead of just being war.
>>42810963Nevermind he just answered that himself.
>>42810973It's been worrying seeing his mental state degrade further with the passage of time.
>>42810999Checked. Trips of truth.
>>42809301I agree. Anyway, bump.
>>42809301This only works if you don't have a humiliation fetish.
Progress!How's your writing going, Anons?
>>42812037Started too many stories and I can't stop thinking
>>42812477But are any of them good
>>42812496No but I'm enjoying the process and that's what matters, even if I'm worried one of them will create a fucking abortion debate if I finish it.
Anyone read any complete dogshit lately? I'm genuinely in the mood for some total, utter dogshit. I want the worst fic you've seen this week.
>>42813020The deadline is on Friday.
>>42813044I want to read bad fics, not write them. I'll see what I can pull out, though.
>>42813020I looked at Quiet Rune Scribe out of curiosity and it really sucks
>>42813020Been slowly chipping away at this extremely isekai isekaific. It's got all of the special snowflake power fantasy self insert meta knowledge rpg mechanics fixin's, and I haven't gotten very far because I can only stomach it in small bursts.https://www.fimfiction.net/story/582534/fragmented
>>42812499There’s no need for a debate. I think we can all agree that everyone in this thread should have been aborted.
>>42812499Fimfic commenters aren't smart enough to be dumb enough to read political messages into things, even if they're intentional.
>>42813392I dunno, if it's them debating and concluding that a science-made in-development fetus explicitly has a soul doesn't that seem like an obvious line of thinking to draw?
I heard there was a purge going on recently what is happening?
>>42813755What do you think happened, when?
The AI fic in the feature box is actually kinda interesting. Like on the level of "this fic is trash, but I want to see where the author is going with this", except the writing quality is worse and in different ways than the usual dreck. Too bad the author didn't spend a bit more time on editing
>>42813876Which fic is AI?
>>42813886>he can't tell
>>42813917I ain't reading HiE slop, so tell me.
Why is there an On Hiatus fic in the feature box, the fuck
I appreciate candid titles.
I'm having a Mandela effect moment here because I thought Double Diamond's name was Diamond Dust and I have been calling him that for months now. Diamond Dust made sense in my head because I remembered the alliteration and it sounds like a flowery name for snow. I got so confused looking for his tag this morning. Thank God for ctrl + f. Now I have to think of a pet name other than Dusty.
>>42814344Author finished one last chapter, posted it and set On Hiatus, and the new chapter got the fic into an update slot
>less than a thousand words in>ctrl+f '—'>14 alreadyI'm a bastard for this. It's either these, parentheses, or a semicolon. Why can't I connect clauses like a normal person?
>>42814737Kek at first I thought you ctrl+f-ed '___' and was wondering what kind of shitpost you were writing
>>42787846It's big mac that's raping him actually
>>42814737I think Elements of Style has a section on that.
>>42814587>Horn behind the hair rather than through it
>>42814378At least it's honest about it all.
>>42814763Lame.
>>42814737It's a very useful character; I average about 5 per 1k words. It's easy to let them into your draft in interrupted speech, action tags, etc.And you should never feel self-conscious about semicolons—we need more of them, not fewer!
>>42814763Immersion shattered. There's no conceivable way that Spike survives that.
>>42814763Why?
>>42814737I just checked and have 98 across just over 41k words.At least this means I'm using the right ones and not that weird Korean character that snuck in somehow.
>>42814822You underestimate a dragon's endurance and durability.
>>42814763Guy's Night got out of hand? This is why I never play DnD...
>>42814822Do you not recall the episode where Spike goes through the gauntlet and Garble gets impaled by a giant shard of rock and is completely unharmed?Dragons be durable as fuck, yo.
In this episode, /fimfic/ debates whether or not Spike could survive being raped by Big Mac.
>>42814617It's actually called the Mandala Effect.
>>42814617https://www.powder.com/ski-resorts/ski-slope-ratings-explainedHis thing is snow and skiing. Like most ponies he has one of those overly-appropriate names.Maybe you were mixing him up with Lightning Dust.>>42814988kek
I have a lot of time off work for the holidays. I should write something.
>>42815016Write something for the anthology, I still don't know if there'll be more than three entries.
>>42815004>https://www.powder.com/ski-resorts/ski-slope-ratings-explainedOh, neat. I probably should have known that before writing about the skiing pony.>Maybe you were mixing him up with Lightning Dust.I probably got Diamond Dust from Shiva's special move in Final Fantasy.
>>42815026I have something in the pipeline, but it definitely isn't going to be done by tomorrow. I've spent most of today alternating between staring at it and adding a couple of paragraphs at a time. I haven't really written anything in a very long time before now, so it's slow going.
>>42815026I wanted to write something but I ended up alternating between losing half my days because my sleeping meds are too powerful and losing half my days because I could barely sleep without them so there's that.
>>42814916Feels like a rerun.
>>42815318Well the show's been over for a few years so yeah.
https://www.fimfiction.net/story/582935/terms-of-serviceIs this good or just hieslop
>>42815554Reads like it was genned. I'm not saying it definitely was, but it's got that annoying, overstuffed Reddit tone that I tend to associate with LLMs that were told to write something funny. Skip it.
>>42815568I agree, the tone and wording is throwing up flags to me too.
>>42815554Giving the newest chapter a brief, 60s look, it seems suspicious.>She finally turns to you. Her violet eyes are clear and resolute. The student is gone; the Princess is here.Or just below it:>"I know they're cynical," she cuts in, her tone firm but not unkind. "The data is clear. But the data doesn't account for the spark of friendship! If I lead with numbers, I validate their cynicism. (...)">She places a hoof gently on your arm, a silent plea for unity.Which is then echoed soon after with:>They are cynical. Gruff. Brutally unimpressed.>They are the most human thing you have seen in months.And if these kinds of sentences weren't ringing your alarm bells, the model got stuck on the word a bit later, too. See picrel. Actually, looking at it now, the sentence construction in that part looks AI-ish, too ("You don't just X, you Y!" is a common AI expression). The single word emphases are also something the models enjoy doing.
>>42815589>be fanfic writer, 2012>get in on the ground floor of AiE>write well-received fics>leave the fandom>come back over a decade later to post slopWhat motivates this behaviour?
>>42815589I think another telltale sign is that every single character plus the narrator all use the exact same fucking voice, sentence structure, word choice, everything. Normally that would just be a sign of the author being new and/or bad but if that were the case here I think the rest of the prose wouldn't come across as competently as it does.
https://forums.sufficientvelocity.com/threads/illuminating-invitation-mlp-fim-au.123641/It ain't on fimfic (though that's where i found it) but I enjoyed this fic about hyper autistic didn't-go-through-the-mirror Sunset being granted a sense of empathy by the outer god she summoned.
>>42815589>Twilight's coronation as the newest Princess of Equestria was meant to be a celebration. For you, it was an ambush.Honestly even this sounds like AI>In a masterful act of political theater, Princess Celestia binds you to Twilight as her Prince-Consort, trapping you in a cage of duty and expectation. You weren't asked; you were appointed.And this REALLY sounds like AI
>>42815621Why do I know that forum?
>>42815589Sorry, it probably isn't AI. Tried multiple detectors and only one really put it in a high percentage, but it also flagged shit from 2012 as the same way.The real indicators are shit like an overuse of em dashes and, more specifically, the fact that the user in question types their actual comments and descriptions like a barely literate retard monkey. This is just normal wish fulfillment slop.
>>42815589>>42815600>>42815582>>42815568Realistically why is it so well received then? Came out a few months ago, already 5.5k views with over 520 likes. How come nobody on the site is calling it out for being AI?
>>42815554It doesn't strike me as specifically AI, but the prose style is really obnoxious.
>>42815554>>42815644
>>42815646I was wondering the same thing. It's possible that the writer just so happens to write like that naturally. Poor guy, if so.
>>42815655Feed it into multiple ones, I've noticed that one false positive is not an indicator.
>>42815646>Realistically why is it so well received then?Is that a serious question? First, because Fimfic readers fucking love low grade slop and always have, even before AI cranked the expediency of publishing slop into high gear. Second, because Fimfic and the fandom is general is a massive hugbox where you're not allowed to point out that something is shit lest you be castigated for being a hater or "not letting people enjoy things."
>>42815646>Realistically why is it so well received then?Because it's AiE clopslop and 9/10 of the top rated fics of the year are that?
>>42815665Oh, sorry, 10/10 fics. Have to go to the second page before you get one non-HiE
>>42815669Lmao oh god I amend that statement, 29/30 of the top rated fics are all human.
>>42815658That one is the best. I don't bother with the others because they are quite shit. If you get 99% on it for creative writing, it's pretty much AI.Never saw a false positive on this and I fed it a lot of verified human writing to see.It's still easy to make it believe AI writing is human if you know what you're doing, but even here it's less fooled than others.Looking at it, the guy seems to mix between AI passages and human ones.>>42815634>In a masterful act of political theater, Princess Celestia binds you to Twilight as her Prince-Consort, trapping you in a cage of duty and expectation. You weren't asked; you were appointed.It's 300% AI.
>>42815658It's not just about getting the result you want from an AI detector—it's about understanding the patterns that lie before you... har, no, just kidding. Genuinely, though, you don't need an AI detector to sniff out how LLMs like to write. They like to over-specify, lay things on way too thick, and to make every sentence as 'impactful' as they possibly can. Creative writing slop is a lot of ultra-flashy jangling keys. It's purpose-built to appeal to the illiteratii.
>>42815674"best" doesn't mean it's accurate. I've had it trip a few things of mine as AI when I know they're not, plus some older fics. That's why you go through multiple if you're unsure, and most importantly look at other most obvious sign: Does the person chat and type the same way they write?
Lauren Faust must have been big into Sailor Moon.
>>42815694>I've had it trip a few things of mine as AI when I know they're not, plus some older fics.Please link them, I'm interested.
>>42815724https://www.fimfiction.net/story/118430/1/how-to-preen-your-chicken/how-to-preen-your-chickenHere's a classic. Trips a few scanners.
Older stuff trips AI scanners because AI was trained off older fanfics.
>>42815646This doesn't read like AI, this just reads like every other HiE fic to me.
>>42815733>>42815694Got a big fat zero on it.Not trying to do a "gotcha", I just never saw this one flagging human-written creative writing so I was interested.
>>42815739Mine trips it and reports less for the slop story, and this one has always been 100% accurate when sussing out AI fics.
