Welcome to Chatbot AI General #151, the thread for discussing and improving AI pony chatbots.▶ MLP Botshttps://mlpchag.neocities.orgSpreadsheet (CAI bots + Old repository):https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1J7BeqJVDS51cXF8Pgm2YZaFq-Z6ykSJTSillyTavern website extension: https://github.com/MLPChag/SillyTavern-Chag-SearchBunch of Character Cards (Descriptions/No Greetings):https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Y6LNOCqAZAWIX-OBEv55HjlzcEdpUh-XbKCpbpL6v5kCAI bots converted to Tavern: https://files.catbox.moe/ckurq1.zipExpression packs: https://rentry.org/ChagExpressions!!!GALLERY!!!: https://drive.google.com/drive/u/2/folders/1Ao-h5HFGMPllSrzSBKM_BvGSiU9f0c2U▶ How do I start?1) Select a Frontend2) Select an AI model3) Select Jailbreak4) Select bots5) Lovemaking with AI mares!Starting in this hobby can be confusing and difficult. If it’s your first time and you’re lost,▶ ASK THE THREAD! ◀Novice-to-advanced guide: https://rentry.org/onrmshttps://rentry.org/sukino-findings▶ SillyTavern (preferred frontend)https://github.com/SillyTavern/SillyTavernOn Android: https://rentry.org/TermuxSTApp that voices pony responses in ST: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/16Ss26VBmgzcSuTGzhaHqRuyVRceTf-YB▶ More frontends:Risu: https://risuai.xyzAgnai: https://agnai.chat▶ Localshttps://rentry.org/lunarmodelexperiments>>>/g/lmg/Mistral Nemo base model fine-tuned on fimfics: https://huggingface.co/Ada321/Nemo_Pony_2/tree/main▶ JailbreaksMLP JB: https://rentry.org/znon7vxeMore JB and guides: https://rentry.org/jb-listingHypebots for Tavern: https://rentry.org/pn3hb▶ BotmakingEditors: https://agnai.chat/editorGuides: https://rentry.org/meta_botmaking_listAdvanced: https://rentry.org/AdvancedCardWritingTricks▶ MiscellaneousScrapped/Collected rentries: rentry.org/mrhdChag Arts: https://drive.google.com/drive/u/2/folders/1yfajin_hB5rW_jy6WyFjRaRfDA3EUGiJhttps://rentry.org/ChagMiscellaneoushttps://rentry.org/ChagArchivePrevious thread: >>42771628**News:**- Moonshot AI releases Kimi K2 Thinking - https://moonshotai.github.io/Kimi-K2/thinking- Claude Haiku 4.5 released - https://www.anthropic.com/news/claude-haiku-4-5- Z.AI releases GLM 4.6 - https://z.ai/blog/glm-4.6- Claude Sonnet 4.5 released https://www.anthropic.com/news/claude-sonnet-4-5
Anchor for bots, lorebooks, scenarios.Previous >>42771631
Anchor for technical stuffs (Proxies, Presets, Updates, Models etc.)
Anchor for asking for bots, lorebooks, scenarios etc.
Bots corner:Heart Island: https://mlpchag.neocities.org/view?card=Kadon/Heart%20Island.pngSilver Spoon Update: https://mlpchag.neocities.org/view?card=KnightOfNightmareMoon/Silver%20Spoon.pngStarless Sky Update: https://mlpchag.neocities.org/view?card=Tiffin/Starless%20Sky.pngTHINGPONE in EQUESTRIA Update: https://mlpchag.neocities.org/view?card=Tiffin/THINGPONE%20in%20EQUESTRIA.pngGreeting corner:Drunk Rarity: https://files.catbox.moe/cmti7u.txtLorebook corner:Tome of Power (Vaporium fork): https://chub.ai/lorebooks/littlewitcher/tome-of-power-7f0713d64046Screenshot corner 1:Hard to seduce >>42771916Lovemaking of the lips >>42772041Enemies to lovers >>42773850Booping the unboopable >>42774453Not letting go >>42775004, >>42775305Spoonfed >>42776800Cute Headless >>42776848That's some plot >>42777001
Screenshot corner 2:Jingles >>42772215, >>42772374, >>42772440, >>42775170, >>42775108, >>42775705, >>42781537, >>42781669, >>42781675, >>42781826
Screenshot corner 3:Headn't >>42777551Trolling CelestAI >>42778024GPT-5.1 logs >>42778331Filthy No! >>42779461Snowpity >>42779893Magic Duel >>42780480Cub >>42781063Emotional damage >>42781310Starlight roleplaying her old self >>42783225
Screenshot corner 4:Ary no touch >>42784794Kimi2 thinking >>42784854, >>42785237, >>42785296, >>42785880
VN Anchor:Last releases:https://equestrai-ponyponyparadise.neocities.org/Anons' mods (Dashie mod, Nightmare AU, new cities):https://equestrai-ponyponyparadise.neocities.org/modsCustom characters:https://equestrai-ponyponyparadise.neocities.org/charactersVN new:Calendar >>42782282
These days, you can get legit good AI for free and without needing any demanding hardware on your end.Install SillyTavern:github.com/SillyTavern/SillyTavernThen choose a model. I'd recommend starting with Gemini, but you can try Deepseek, K2 etc. for free.rentry.org/sukino-findings#if-you-want-to-use-an-online-ai
Does this thread really need 9 different "anchors"?
>>42786089yeah
>>42786023Gotta Catch 'Em All!AI mares!
>>42786093Why?
>>42786103i like it
>>42786096
>>42786103Anchors blew up when the number of links per post was listed as spam.
I can fix him.
>>42786029Stealth, free model that is supposed to be GPT 5.1 or at least a GPT model.openrouter.ai/openrouter/polaris-alpha
>>42786059Would love to see more moms and dads in the VN. There are events for Mother's Day and Father's Day in the mod, and it's a shame not being able to experience them with the in-laws.
>>42786029Proxies haven't existed in like 2 years, right?
>>42786405Not like they used to. The few that do are super locked down.
>>42786405>Proxies haven't existed in like 2 years, right?there's sillyspoonand proxies exist it depends what model. been awhile since I needed them but last I checked the chink models were available and gemini
Got around to include a new intro. Do you like batponies? then use the new intro. Do you not like batponies? then dont use the new intro because this is a job from Luna and you can end up anywhere. Unlike the military isms slant the first intro had, this is fantasy. Also tweaked the Ponyville introhttps://chub.ai/characters/Tiffin_/thingpone-in-equestria-47d208264121
>>42786394I will try to make some. Dads are harder because they don't have many sprites.
>>42786418Updated, thanks anon.https://mlpchag.neocities.org/view?card=Tiffin/THINGPONE%20in%20EQUESTRIA.png
>>42782282>Year 1003Ew, Nightmare Moon epoch dating system.I don't really care if that's an option among several, I just wouldn't want to be locked to using it.
>>42786862Anon said it would be custom >>42783725
What's the usual token cost for a decently-long VN session? I'm running Claude via the official API, so I'm paying per token. Would it be a better idea to switch to Openrouter or something?>captcha: JPG00
>>42787008It's the same price between API and OpenRouter for Claude, so it wouldn't change things too much.By having fun with the VN, context can go up quite easily, so yes, it can become quite pricey.Switching to OpenRouter would allow you to use cheaper models (DeepSeek, the current free GPT-5.1, etc.). You can also see about making a free Gemini key >>42786065 and see if it's still good for you. I quite like Gemini for the VN myself. You can switch between models too and come back to Claude if it's a more complex scene or if it's something the other AI doesn't get well.
>>42787008>paying per tokenyou phonefagging?if not, see if one of the scripts works with the VN
>>42787022Right. I'm sure I heard about some proxy that provides Claude for a subscription fee, but it must not have been OR.>>42787025No phones here. API's just convenient, and cheap enough for my use level when I cache and do all the context-saving tricks. I considered swapping to a proxy during the Sonnet 4.0 dark era, but 4.5 has gotten me complacent again.
>>42787039>I cache and do all the context-saving tricksactually, able to provide details on how to do this?caching is something i've never looked into, always proxyfagging
>>42787052>There is also >>42776614 the lmarena script is super scuffedthis ones far better >>42783344
>>42787039>subscription fee There are no more paid proxies that offer stable Claude. What I know some people do is pay for the Claude subscription and use it with one of these scripts: github.com/horselock/claude-code-proxy github.com/Pimzino/anthropic-claude-max-proxy Never tried them myself, so I can’t say how good they are.There is also >>42783344>>42787060That's the one I wanted to link.I fucked up between the two.
>>42787047https://rentry.org/pay-the-piper-less
>>42786904Ah. Have kinda been skimming these threads lately, so I didn't see that.Cool, so I'll be able to align Season 1 with 1980 (years post liberation from Grogar).>>42783725Though I should note that Seasons 1-3 take place in the span of one year, though, as Season 4 starts with a Summer Sun Celebration that's implied to be the first one Celestia gets to enjoy WITH Luna.So, 2 years later should be roughly between Season 7 and 8.Thus, I think Calendar Anon should want like ~9 months since Episode 1 in order to get S2/3 Unicorn Twilight.Also, also, you put a calendar in with the idea of "skipping ahead", and my brain immediately thinks, "Well, well, well. Effectively a form of forwards time travel, eh? Well wouldn't it be interesting to take a little step *backwards* in time at some point..."Granted that'd require an entire mod of its own to set up different eras. Apple Bloom can't travel back 30 years and still be bumping into Rainbow Dash, or be able to still visit Carousel Boutique.
>>42787103>Seasons 1-3 take place in the span of one year>2 years later should be roughly between Season 7 and 8Yeaahhh this is one of those things where I'm going to personally choose to completely ignore what "technically" looks like what happened in canon.The idea of Twilight going from Moondancer 0.5 to the Princess of Friendship in one year is ridiculous. As is the idea that all these villains and world-ending events happened in the span of a couple years.
Mare pussy or ponut?
>>42787169>Mare pussy or ponut?yes
>>42787169
>>42787103>as Season 4 starts with a Summer Sun Celebration that's implied to be the first one Celestia gets to enjoy WITH LunaI don't think that's ever actually stated. Celestia just says that the Summer Sun Celebration "has become" a happy reminder of Luna's return, not that it's the first one they're celebrating together. She's contrasting the past 1000 painful celebrations with all the celebrations since Luna returned, in my opinion.
>>42786023She’s just like me…
>>42786059>>42786394Windy Whistleshttps://u.pone.rs/sslwrjnc.zip
>>42787200I need that ASCII
>>42787268I can finally have me some Dashie oyakodon. Noice.
First highlight of the Event was:https://mlpchag.neocities.org/view?card=Kadon/Rosey%20Ring.pngYou can see all the discussions about the card here:>>42773604Second highlight of the Event was:https://mlpchag.neocities.org/view?card=anonistrator/The%20Headless%20Horse.pngWe got:Log + Review: >>42774453Discussion + Poll on the use of '*': >>42775438Another log: >>42776848And a full review with another log: >>42777551A big thanks to all the anons who participated!
>>42786023>>42787280Third highlight of the Event with Nightmare Jackhttps://mlpchag.neocities.org/view?card=Anonymous/Nightmare%20Jack.pngTry her, post logs if you've already played with her, just give the card a look and say what you think of it, or talk about the process to make her if you're the botmaker. Give tips or opinions if you're another botmaker.
>>42786034Still hoping for a full set of mom6 bots. 3/6 and personally the most interested in Posey as Fluttershy was my favorite watching the show. Followed by Pear Butter, there was someone talking about working on one but it seems it never finished. I'm personally stumped on Cookie Crumbles as she's the mom with the least amount of screen time second only to Posey who was introduced much later and Cookie was one of the first to be introduced.
>>42787284I like their dynamic, and I shamelessly stole the way the inner monologue is done to add it to Spoonie card.
Any new developments regarding lmarena? I haven't been able to talk with AI mares for a few days now, it's bleak.
>>42787489Check >>42783344
>>42787284Hey, that's my bot.I talked about it in a previous thread, but I wanted to participate in the event, didn't have many ideas, then remembered an old fic where AJ is turned into Nightmare Jack:https://www.fimfiction.net/story/249504/nightmarejackReread it and it's still quite enjoyable; I'd recommend it. Short too.I prefer writing greetings over descriptions, which is why this one is quite brief, but I believe it does the job.The card is simple, with the main gimmick being the style used for the nightmare's voice, which uses Regex to display properly.The greeting has two parts: the Nightmare's defeat and how a small part survives, then the possession of Applejack. I structured it this way because I toyed with making this more of a general nightmare possession card, with the same start but different 'victims': some fun ones like Derpy, Angel Bunny, or a Luna plushie with suspicious holes.I was afraid I wouldn't have enough time, so I went with the single character, but maybe I'll update it or make a fork later.The greeting is in the past tense because I often RP that way, and it wasn't poorly received for the Hag Twilight card I made.>>42787450Thanks for playing with her, anon.
>>42787315Correct me if I am wrong, but I think the only mom we are missing is Rarity's mom. Or did you want a card with all of them together?
>>42786059>>42786394Posey Shyhttps://u.pone.rs/tnyvpvsn.zipI'll have a look for Cookie Crumbles and the dads, but it's looking grim.
>>42786059
>>42787628Cute.
>copilot script stopped working for the first time since the beginning of the yeari'm gonna miss juggling my 5 tokens
>>42787815Which one? I can try to take a look if you want.
>>42787270i ⸘ ibest I can do on 4chan
>>42787821"elfd8b.py" is how it was posted on the archive
>>42787200slop
>>42787899Thanks for your valuable feedback.
>>42787966>As if anyone wanted feedback from a slopcard by a mobilenigger
>>42787268>>42787597Added to the website.https://equestrai-ponyponyparadise.neocities.org/characters
>>42788147I want to loosen that lady
>>42787113>>42787206That's fair, though the longer the series gets stretched, the harder it becomes to justify the CMC not aging into the teen model.They arguably should have by Season 9 as it is.
>Copilot replaced their 3.5 Sonnet with 4.5 HaikuIt's so over
>>42788357Yeah, Deepseek does the same.
>>42788357Sad.
Sorry to post this scene a lot, but I like using it to test models and more.I tried it back on good old Opus 3 and I'm always surprised by how different this model can write compared to what we have right now. Some good stuff inside.I remember that Claude 2.1 was a bit like that too, but unfortunately it died, so no tests.Here are other models:>GPT 5.1>>42778331>Haiku 4.5https://desuarchive.org/mlp/thread/42654130/#42675283>GPT 5 PRO (Funny how awful it is)https://files.catbox.moe/g5kuwp.png>GPT 5 chathttps://desuarchive.org/mlp/thread/42631475/#42638073
>>42787597>>42787268Do you make these yourself or generate them?
>something else, something rawthat's it, I'm revoking the models right to use "something" it just can't be trusted with that much power of uncertainty.
>>42788549I search for vector, transparent background, [Name of pony] in boorus. You can add "solo" if you're lazy, but you can find poses you won't find any other way in group images. Just need to edit to remove the rest. Sometimes I remove "vector" too if there aren't many results for a pony. Some vectors are not tagged as such and will display only with "transparent background".After that I search "[Name of pony] vector" on DeviantArt. It's not that common, but you can find random new vectors there too.Then I do a final pass on https://www.rankwatch.com/free-tools/reverse-image-search with Yandex and others.
>>42787206Actually, now that I checked the transcripts again, I'm still gonna say it IS only one year, due to the incredibly strong implication of such in Celestia's dialogue.Pic rel.
>>42787268>>42787597Awesome! Thanks, anon. I think we're also missing Cloudy Quartz. Not sure how her sprite situation is.>>42787103Yeah, the 2-year thing is just my personal headcanon. I’m trying my best not to force it on anyone. You’ll be able to pick any date you want when doing a custom start, but the quick start and regular start will use whatever the default date is set to, so I’d recommend changing that to whatever fits your headcanon in the files. I made it as easy as possible to change and I'll let you guys know exactly where to find it on release.I’m more worried about anons disagreeing with the event dates. I’ve had to make a few educated guesses for some of them, like the Grand Galloping Gala. All we know for sure is that it’s held on the 21st day of some month, so I went with May since it’s supposed to have a beautiful garden. And the show barely has any Spring events, so it helps round out the calendar.>Well wouldn't it be interesting to take a little step *backwards* in time at some pointI thought about that for half a second before deciding against it. The implications are just too much for me to deal with, and I’d like to release this soonish.
>>42788746>I thought about that for half a second before deciding against it. The implications are just too much for me to deal with, and I’d like to release this soonish.Yeah, like I said, that'd require an entire mod of its own to function properly, assuming it's done in an in-story way.And just jumping around out-of-story would be hard to implement; possibly even *harder* than a story-based time travel mod, because the former has to *avoid* past changes affecting stuff you've already RP'd in the future.
>>42787284I appreciate that the voice in her head has its own style, a nice touch. While the description is sufficient, it's a card that requires you to set the goals yourself.... but all I can think of is putting her in looney tunes scenarios.Messing with her is just too entertaining.
Is it normal to get interactions like this without prompting for it? I think my client is bugged it keeps responding like this
>>42788916>flutters thinks anon is retarded>bugged client is the problemanon...
>>42788916Kek. Check your preset, addons and other stuff that gets added to your requests. I imagine it might be something like> {user}} is a retard
>>42788923I was thinking maybe it was flawed training data maybe for aie
>>42788929Anon, I'm so sorry for you if any AI genuinely called you a retard. Please share what was earlier in the chat for an accurate diagnosis.
>>42788929>flawed
>>42788916LMAO
>>42788916I don't see the problem. Disability checks + free care from Fluttershy? You're lucky, anon.
A quick&dirty card to commerorate the retarded anon. But honestly, I couldn't find the same level of condescension as in his chatlog. The hell happened there?https://files.catbox.moe/6emwdu.png
>>42789053>A quick&dirty card to commerorate the retarded anontop fucking kek
>>42788916This reminds me of a persona some anon made like a year ago. I can't find it for the life of me, but it was something like:{{user}} is retarded and is a poor example of humanity. Princess Celestia sent a letter informing Ponyville that he is a special guest from another world and must be respected.
>>42789053>The hell happened there?{user} was gpt5
>>42789094What a coincidence. In the retarded card every time I tried to interact with the princesses they wanted to send me to twilight in ponyville. It really feels like a special episode.
>>42789116>retarded ape drops on the princesses doorstep>IMMEDIATELY tries to pass off the responsibility to TwilightI see even in ai form somethings never change.
>>42787526The only existing bot of Posey is very bare bones and is from a much different bot landscape. Pear butter is her as a ghost so not exactly what I would want out of a Pear Butter card
>>42789094I have been summoned! Yes, I made that persona and by god is it glorious! I should really show off some of the sequels I made.
>>42789253I had a lot of fun with it, but I somehow lost it. I tried finding it on desu for like an hour. Please share it again!
>>42789270Sure!>{{user}} is the only human in Equestria. He is profoundly autistic and has an IQ below 100. He is a very poor representative of the human race. Despite this, Princess Celestia has discreetly threatened any pony that makes their alien guest feel unwelcomed with lunar banishment so they are obliged to be polite and tolerate his antics. For now.I really didn't know that people enjoyed this persona so much. Would anyone be interested if I expanded this into an official card that adds on the updates I've made?
>>42787284This is a very basic card - but it's still good to have variety in the event and it's clearly a joke card for fun whipped together to participate. The description and intro is sparse but enough for the LLM to leverage a [bad thing happened] prologue, but she didn't go full nightmare which is a funny mishap you never see in the show. --What-if scenarios like this can leverage what AI is good at. the two clashing concepts naturally lends itself to absurdity like >>42788850 says, it's full looney toons which some early season fimfags will probably enjoy, but it's directionless SoL with AJ clearly not going to give up the reigns.--I like to tinker and dissect cards if I can learn from them, and this is the first that I've seen use embed regex style, for the voice. Maybe there's cards like that on /g/ or chub but I've never seen it in /chag/ so bonus points for an underutilized card mechanic.Regex can open up new ways to use it like the Silverspoon card (which doesn't work right, right now but I see the intent). Since opening the card to see how it works it makes me considering messing with regex in my own cards, and didn't really see the point until now but maybe there's something to it after all, so cheers. --The full text formatting glow won't show up on some themes, like this one. But you can still get the effect. I've never read the fic but I'm thinking about looking at it now just to see how well it transferred, but it's still a fun little nonsense card.
>>42789276Thank you! I'm going to try something like that out on the VN.
>>42789276It's great. somehow playing as a retard is one of the only times Twilight didn't reach for a dictionary in her responses. I'm considering updating my preset. Maybe strong words work a lot better for this disease.
>>42787284Minor note: the <nightmare> tag has incomplete instructions imo. >The des says it's a voice in her head,>it often starts without quotes and messes the formatting up. a little, >while other times it's with quotes like it can be heard. For consistency I'd go with either pick one or the other and specify, or add another rule about it.
haihai I'm new and been meaning to get into the mlp side of chatbots, does anyone rp as ponies or just a human persona? sorry for the question
>>42789361I've seen both, but human is more common as far as I can tell. You can check the gallery in the OP for logs if you want.
>>42789361Remember when newfags lurked for these obvious shit?
>>42789372okay thank you !>>42789376i will go back to lurking sorry
>>42788357is a fix for the copilot script possible regarding this? i tried doing it myself by swapping out references for sonnet 3.5 for haiku 4.5, but i'm the techlettiest of all techlets and all i get is "API returned an error: The requested model is not supported."
>>42789361S.L.L.S.F.H.M.
>>42789458Agreed.
>>42789361Just play as what you want, as long as you're chatting with a nice mare. Human or pony is fine. I don't think it matters that much since you'll be the only one seeing it, unless you're planning on sharing logs.
>>42789424you need to enable it manually
i'm on claude for my main chat promptsany suggestions for a model/sauce for summarization etc so I can have that running in the background at the same time?would need to handle nsfw without 'i'm sorry anon, I can't summarize bestiality and the horse is a minor'
>>42789322>breasts>hoof squeezedWhat the fuck kind of anthro are you role-playing
>>42789306Post logs plz!!
>>42788850>Buenos Dias NightmareJackKek>it's a card that requires you to set the goals yourselfYeah. You can just fuck around, help the Nightmare, help Applejack, have her try to control the power, etc.I preferred to have something sandbox-y and open for this one.>all I can think of is putting her in looney tunes scenarios.>Messing with her is just too entertaining.100% valid. The original fic is a comedy too.Thanks for the fun log.>>42789295>This is a very basic cardFor sure, most of my efforts went into the greeting.>this is the first that I've seen use embed regex style for the voice.It's the first one I know of too, but I stopped looking at Chub cards once it started getting flooded, so I'm sure someone else did it first since it's not that complex.>I've never read the fic but I'm thinking about looking at it now just to see how well it transferredThere are some parts that aged a bit, but the fic is really fun and it's a breeze to read.Thank you for the log. It's both cute and fun.>>42789358I'll look into that. Thanks a lot, anon.
>>42789730I would say Gemini.>Free>Not bad at higher contexts>Not that filteredOnly problem could be with foalcon.>>42789361We have both but mainly human. All logs are accepted though, and I never saw anyone seethe about what you play as.
>>42789808>>Freesauce?
>>42789815>>42786065
