Nobody ever tries to ask why shes evil. Or where her family is and if that contributes to her demeanor. In a show that people praise as being well written and introspective, nobody ever asks her or any other deranged monster like Starlight or Discord what made their brains degrade and decide to consciously hurt others. That makes no sense.
OP is an Empath.
>>42808290>Nobody ever asks OP why he's a faggot
>>42808290I genuinely don't care about her past. I just want to fiddle with her no-no parts.
>>42808290>Or where her family isNice try, OP.
They spell out Starlight's motivation, right?As for Discord, he's more of a force of nature, if he stops making chaos, he disappears, I thinkCozy Glow is a bratty filly that needs correction
>>42808290It makes sense when you remember that Seasons 8 and 9 were written and produced by horrifically shitty, evil people that all think that they’re “good” and therefore not subject to the standards they set forth for the treatment of “bad” people. (They’re wrong.)
>>42808290Blame the writers, not us.
>>42808321This. It's fucking vile.
She deserved better. So did Chrysalis and Tirek and Sombra too
>>42808290Ponies are kinda sociopathic and mentally stunted when you start trying to make sense of their conflicts and daily routines. Celestia only frees a chaos monster because it “might be useful” down the line. Not out of kindness or pity but for its power. Twilight only invests in friendship and magic to advance her own status, if killing everypony in Ponyville would help her, she would do it. Starlight is insane and was gleeful of her villagers being miserable, eating muffins so horrid and tasteless they lacked any nutrition. Maybe its just their small brains or something but I wasnt surprised at CG being evil nor nobody caring why shes like that.
>>42808290It really doesn't. The fact that they gave every major reformed villain actual second chances while not giving her anything is plain ridiculous. A child never belonged in Tartarus let alone petrified. I can't fathom how anyone can defend that garbage.>>42808318Starlight's motivation makes no fucking sense. Discord does not need to hurt others, which he does regularly in order to survive, and if he does, why even let him remain free?
My theory is that the Golly Defense Force is half fillyfiddlers and half people who use her case to express a more general hatred of how the show ended. I'm not convinced that anyone actually cares about her as a character. What even is there to salvage, here? A neat visual design? She's practically Sombra-tier.
>>42809438I care about her as a character and Sombra tooI'm so redemption-pilled it's unreal
>>42808290FiM has no sense since Season 7.
>>42808290>In a show that people praise as being well writtenSince when though.
>>42809763Yeah most people here know its a soulless toy commercial show that went on far too long.
>>42808313Me too
>>42808290Writers got tired of fans psycho spotting every other character so they wrote an actual psychopath.Psychopaths aren't evil though. They are the definition of neutrality but our society doesn't, and never will, exist in a state of neutrality.
>>42808318Correction with cock
>>42809438She's not even that cute, so I still don't know why people are so horny for her.
>>42808290Who is your daddy and what does he do
>>42811541My cock
Discord:>Fucks up Equestria 1000 years ago.>Tries to do the same later.>Reformed for the sake of using his powers to help.>Never actually uses his powers to help.>Does a bunch of horrible shit.>Practically sends 3 villains to Equestria.>Forgiven relatively quickly.Starlight:>Enslaves an entire town for probably a while.>Lies about her own cult.>Runs away when revealed to be a liar instead of changing for the better.>Comes back for revenge after spying on Twilight.>Almost fucks over the time line multiple times.>Needs more convincing to stop after specifically showed how she would destroy the world.>Still forgiven after all that. Given a privileged spot as a princess's personal student living in her castle.Tempest:>Helps a conquering warlord conquer and pillage for who knows how long.>Leads an attack to Equestria, causing property damage, enslaving ponies and petrifying the princesses.>Only switches sides after Storm King betrays her.>Still forgiven and given basically no punishment.Cozy Glow:>Inconvenienced Equestria for almost 3 days.>Ultimately no one got hurt as a result of her actions.>One can argue that she was somewhat influenced by other villains.>Is a child.>Not even an attempt at rehabilitating her. Just immediately sent to the worst prison.How does anyone defend this shit? It makes no sense.
>>42811651>Inconvenienced Equestria for almost 3 days. >Ultimately no one got hurt as a result of her actions. Playing down her crime like that only hurts your argument. What she did was completely fucked up, but the point stands that it sure wasn't any more fucked up than Discord or Glimmer. It's still massive hypocricy on the princesses part.
>>42811663Not that it wasn't, but regarding the ultimate results of her actions. Starlight still enslaved a village for probably way longer then 3 days, and if anyone assumes multiple timelines, then she might have created a lot of bad ones. Discord consistently does bad things after he was given a second chance while we don't even know how long his original reign may have lasted and Tempest was working for Storm King probably for a while if she was made commander before the movie, meaning that she was a key part in a regime, which based off what they were doing with the ponies, was pretty shitty.In comparison, the actual results of Cozy's actions were less severe then those three, because unlike Starlight, she, as far as we know, never did anything evil like enslaving a village before season 8, never got a chance to conduct her villainy in the long term because she was defeated relatively quickly and never betrayed any good guy because she was never given a second chance. Because of this, while we can speculate on the outcome of her victory, the actual damage she caused, as far as the show is concerned, is minimal because she did not spend what may have been years doing bad shit. She did not have that much of a lasting impact in comparison.
>>42811651Honestly all of them should have suffered a harsh punishment either death (which is either stoning) or banishment or magical depowering. If it were a movie by any other studio Tempest for example, would be the main villain but also would have fallen to her death or blown up and everyone would have celebrated. Starlight should have been ostracized for being a psychopath.
>>42811651>inconvenienced equestria for three daysAnon, if Cozy's plan had succeeded, the world would've ended with its magic being vacuumed out.
>>42812372Not really. Ponies can survive without magic. Even if they couldn't, its not like Cozy's plan was to commit mass murder since she wanted to be "empress of friendship". Hard to do that if everyone is dead.
>>42812534>ponies can survive without magicWasn't the absence of magic one of the things that caused enough disunity in the last season to basically trigger the apocalypse?
>>42812596No, it was already on its way to collapse. It's one of the reasons Twilight took away all the magic. It's more an effect then cause. Or just Twilight's stupid decision.
>>42808308But what if this OP meets another OP who's trains?
>>42809438I like her because of her ingenuity and cunning
Obligatory https://www.fimfiction.net/story/465888/cozy-glow-fiendship-is-magic posting
>>42811651Luna was 10x more evil than any of them and she got instantly redeemed. The show never made sense.
>>42808313>>42811165>muh diiiiiiiikaverage gollypedo IQ
>>42809438I'm somewhere between caring about her and hating how the show ended. If Friendship is really Magic, it should have ended with the main cast befriending her, or at least someone. I feel the same about Tirek and Chrysalis. The first two episodes were about redeeming someone who even Celestia thought was too far gone. That should mean nobody is really too far gone.
>>42813607The retroactive reading of Nightmare Moon is that she was saved purely because she was important to Celestia, otherwise she would've been just turned to stone or otherwise dealt with.
>>42813610That's a dumb retroactive reading, dude. Even Discord was thrown a bone and he wasn't important to anybody.
>>42813617Celestia outright says the reason she did it was because he could be useful.
>>42813621Nigger he wasn't saved by the power of usefulness, he was saved by the power of friendship. Regardless the reason, the result of any major conflict in the show is supposed to be friendship. It's in the name.
>>42813631The point is that, if you apply the understanding of the cynical nature of Equestria's leadership as seen in the finale, it's very clear that friendship was used as a tool rather than as a sincere expression of care. Now, I deeply dislike the fact that it can be read that way but it is consistent.
>>42813635>as seen in the finaleI guess we're at an impasse. I think the characters were flanderized because the core message of the show was betrayed. You think the meaning of the show changed with whoever had the reigns on the writing team at the time and that translates to every episode before them. There's nothing else we can argue.
>>42813621Putting this into perspective Celestia would kill or imprison most humans due to our natural inclination to evil, selfishness and self-destruction while also NOT being good at anything.
>>42812046>>42811663Luna should've had a public execution of her hanging. The most deranged and psychopathic villain doesn't even get a slap on the wrist and is given her princess position back instantly just because she happens to be Celestia's sister.
>>42813649uh based?
Cozy has a smelly ponut
>>42808321The school of friendship was a mistake. School before that (i.e. Celestia or Cheerilee) was about math and stuff like that, maybe more. But friendship was about putting down the books and touching grass with others.Not all the episodes were bad. Frenemies was fun with rewatch value (on its own). Molt Down had some good character interactions. Road to Friendship was mostly good (why couldn't Starlight magic some earplugs to sleep better?? Or not sell her friend's stuff and make her cry, WTF). Angel swapping bodies with Fluttershy, fanart goldmine. I think my favorite was the winter special, made me warm and fuzzy inside.
>>42808569>Celestia only frees a chaos monster because it “might be useful” down the line. Not out of kindness or pity but for its power.She's not always clear about her true thoughts or intentions, makes her character more mysterious and interesting.
Cozy has a very strong utilitarian friendship but she has no clue how friendship of pleasure or how friendship of virtue works. Through a utilitarian friendship she can however learn how friendship of pleasure and a friendship of virtue works. Evil people doing evil stuff together for a friendship of pleasure for instance or manipulating another pony to get what she wants for a friendship of virtue while making sure she doesn't harm the pony in the process which a lesson in morals can teach her.
>>42813652It was pretty clearly implied (and I think Faust even said so?) that the Nightmare was a thing separate from Luna, which the elements got rid of.She was already stuck on the moon for 1000 years with whatever was possessing her, how much more punishment does she need?
>>42814442>character learns about friendship as a genuine bond by starting out using it as a means to an endI don't want to alarm you, but they already did this one.
>>42814462Discord has a strong friendship of pleasure which is why he tries to teach the evil three about friendship through pleasurable means of having them work together. His plan might have worked if he didn't only think that: Well if it worked for me it's going to work for them.You might say that Chryssy is pleasurable but she is actually utilitarian without her swarm.Tirek goes from virtues to utilitarian without the means to absorb magic.Cozy is just Cozy.Discord applies the wrong friendship lesson.
>>42813621Funny thing about that is, Discord never really used his powers to help Equestria beyond fixing his own messes. Like, where was he during the Storm King invasion? Or why didn't he help with Stygian? Or Cozy the first time?
>>42814482>he tries to teach the evil three There was never any implication to this. As far as the show was concerned, he literally just brought them together to ruin Twilight's coronation to "teach her a lesson". There was simply never any sign that he was secretly trying to help them as well.
Imagine trying to farm for a you from a gollychad like me
>>42814455>headcanonShe chimped out because ponies felt sleepy at night
>>42813607the damage may done but the writers are now irrelevant and thats enough for mehaber is a freelancer still since nobody will hire him
>>42814790>headcanonThen why would she change her ways after the rainbow laser?
>>42814813She was beaten down to her lowest point and had nowhere to go but up, so lazy writing basically.
