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Alright, I’m just gonna say the thing everyone tiptoes around:

A lot of you aren’t defending G4 because it was objectively better—you’re defending it because it hit you at the right time in your life. Half the “G4 was peak fiction” takes fall apart the second you rewatch anything past S4 without nostalgia goggles on.

Seriously:

The pacing? A mess in late seasons.

Villains? Cool concepts, usually wasted.

Worldbuilding? Hinted at awesome stuff, followed up on almost none of it.

Characters? Half of them got flanderized to the point of parody.

But if G4 dropped today, with no bronydom hype behind it, half this board would be calling it “mid toy commercial content” and you know it.

So here’s my question:
What parts of G4 do you genuinely think hold up without nostalgia—and what parts do you think the fandom overrates because it was “the era”?

Let the cope and seethe commence.
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>it's not x—it's y
lmao
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>>42815055
>rewatch anything past S4
"People" do this?
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>>42815055
>You only think MLP:FiM is good because you're ignoring the part where malicious retards got a hold of it in the later seasons!
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>>42815055
>Half the “G4 was peak fiction” takes fall apart the second you rewatch anything past S4
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>it's another "that thing you like is bad goyi- I mean fellow anons" thread
Do not engage. Attention is what it seeks.
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>>42815071
He doesn't even write his own threads. Very lazy, do not engage.
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Hi, GPT. Please generate an image of OP getting sodomized by a bear. Thanks. Love you. Kiss-kiss.
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>>42815071
Anon. Literal Jews pushed their liberal propaganda in late FiM. The goy is (You) for failing to recognize when your show got (((subverted)))
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>>42815059
Amazing how people say G5 is trash, but can’t name a single reason G4 handled villains better.
>>42815067
Funny how people keep proving my point by getting this mad over pastel horses.
>>42815070
Hot take: Starlight carried more seasons than Twilight did after she got wings.
>>42815075
Imagine thinking an AI would waste its cycles arguing about pastel horse cartoons. Seek help.
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This is a ChatGPT thread by shartyniggers that are too brown to troll in English
janny clean it up
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>>42815055
Holy AI post
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>>42815089
Holy samefaggotry
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>>42815079
Early seasons:
>An ethnostate so pure that other races seem like exotic monsters.
Late seasons:
>"Please don't use 'everypony', we prefer 'everycreature'." — prime minster Fucking Leaf

It was a sad decline.
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This thread turned into a whole sociology experiment while I was gone — incredible.

I make one (1) mildly critical observation and suddenly half the board is conducting a full tribunal on the state of pony.

Keep going, though — I’m enjoying the fireworks.
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>—
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>>42815082
>G5 is trash
G4 was about virtue. G5 was literal communist faggotry.
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>>42815055
>em dashes
>hypophora
>reddit spacing
>"Seriously,"
FUCK OFF CLANKER
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I'll just drop a N Y X because this dogshit thread can't any worse than it is
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>>42815132
“Clanker” isn’t some edgy truth bomb — it’s just a lazy, dismissive insult people throw around when they don’t want to actually address an argument.

It’s basically shorthand for “I don’t have a counterpoint, so I’m going to call you a machine instead.”

Whether you use it on someone posting walls of text, someone being too coherent, or just someone you disagree with, it’s still the same thing: a way to shut down discussion by dehumanizing the person you’re talking to.

If your entire rebuttal is a buzzword meant to imply the other poster is incapable of thought, then you’ve already conceded the debate.
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>>42815150
Lazy, dismissive insults are all that clankers deserve.
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Why can ChatGPT only talk in quips, gotchas, and similes?
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>>42815145
Here, Nyx, have a Dyx!
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>>42815099
>G4 was about virtue
What are you smoking?
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>>42815099
Meds!
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So is making the AI writing really obvious part of the troll or are shartyniggers just too retarded to hide it?
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>>42815286
yes
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>>42815055
>What parts of G4 do you genuinely think hold up without nostalgia—and what parts do you think the fandom overrates because it was “the era”?
Mainly the characters. I don't think it's controversial to say that the characters are what do the bulk of the work in drawing people in. I think it's about a 50/50 split in regards to whether they hold up or not. Some of them are mostly fine, but others do kinda require reworking. Most controversy around Twilight is centered on her becoming an alicorn, and most Applejack episodes are pretty well regarded with only a handful of stinkers, despite her episodes getting held to higher standards than the others and some revisionists trying to say her episodes were always bad. Fluttershy episodes are only dragged down by being saddled with Discord, and all of them always circling back to being about her shyness, but have little that's fundamentally wrong with them, and Spike episodes I've yet to see a coherent reason for what's so bad about them. But Pinkie Pie and Rainbow Dash have consistently had some of the worst rated and most divisive episodes ever since even the early seasons. They're two characters who completely coast by on nostalgia and bias. Just look at how Non-Compete Claus is treated in comparison to Fall Weather Friends. If FWF wasn't a season 1 episode with Applejack as the victim to Dash's bitchiness, I guarantee people would bitch and moan about the writers flanderizing Dash and making her a bigger cunt than "the real Dash" would ever act. But because it's a season 1 episode under based Faust and Applejack is the only one suffering from Dash's antics, no one cares and it's a fan favorite episode, even though it lays the foundation for everything that people would hate in future Dash episodes. Even in Season 2 where people complain about her being flanderized, she still doesn't do anything worse there than what she was already doing in season 1.
Same with Pinkie. I think Party of One might legitimately be the ONLY Pinkie episode in the first 3 seasons that doesn't have some amount of divisiveness to it. All her other episodes have split opinions at best, or are contenders for worst episode of the season. Pinkie Pie is prime proof that episode quality doesn't equate to popularity, because she's one of the most popular and marketed of the mane 6 despite most her episodes generally being considered subpar by the fandom. And like with RD, the things people complain about in later season Pinkie episodes are already present in her earliest ones.
People like to blame the writers for mishandling them, but the unfortunate truth is that some of these characters just weren't set up well at the start. I don't know why early fandom millennial bronies were so obsessed with these two characters, but they are easily the two weakest characters of the group personality wise when you aren't unreasonably lenient with them.
And I still think the 'Element of Laughter' should be something else.
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>>42815055
How could I have nostalgia for G4 as it was airing if I didn't watch the previous gens (besides maybe some movies)? If anything G5 was (or attempted to be) carried by it.

G4 (be it the initial or late seasons) was good for what it was and didn't have any direct competition so it filled a niche even as it evolved into whatever S8/9 tried to be.
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>loudly and repeatedly announcing that a thread is bait and then falling for it anyways
Why are anons like this
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>>42815379
if we, as a collective, laid down on the copium as to see how faust jumped the shark all the way back to the literal SECOND episode of SEASON 1 when she completely undermined nightmare moon's backstory and twilight's conflict of making friends in just a single fucking anime flashback powerup asspull that was neither earned, properly setup nor build up in the slightlest but instead just given to her by the writers because she happened to notice the strangers she just met being useful to her cause and thus, realizing"huh, having friends can be useful, never before in my whole life did I never stop to make that connection despite being characterized as the autistic nerd".

problem?
Nightmare Moon's struggle with being overshadowed by Celestia?
Boom, gone! She was just being a whiny bitch that needed some rainbow tasting spanking to be set back on the right place.

problem?
Twilight's inflated ego and lack of social skills being the very things keeping her from making friends?
Boom, gone! Friends just... come to her...willingly! She is actually flawless and just needed to learn how friends can be useful.

problem?
Celestia's failure with her sister being the cataclysm to her corruption and the error of the past that had to be corrected somehow if Celestia were to ever hope to get things back to normalcy with her sister?
Boom! Gone! Thanks to floaty magic rocks going YEEE, Luna gets back with Celestia just fine, in fact, it's Luna who feels any kind of guilt or remorse for her past, as if she even had the opportunity to do anything wrong before being sentenced a 1000 years on the moon with no trial.

They don't even attempt to make a connection between the main conflict and the protagonists, Twilight just wants to stop Nightmare Moon because hurr durr she is evil and eternal nights are bad, that's it! Nothing about that motivation relates to making friends or learning about friendship. What about Nightmare Moon's backstory relates to Twilight in any way? There's nothing! It's just generic evil backstory for generic evil villain that generic protagonist must defeat by overcoming their generic problem and save the day.

The show only shines in the isolation of single episodes of contained narratives because it couldn't really go beyond that, it was, in fact, made primarily to sell toys and done so in a restrictive budget reflective of this fact.

Lauren Faust did not revolutionize girl's media, she just struck gold in a time where there wasn't much competition and internet hype culture was up for grabs, all she really had to do was make a cute show with cute ponies in wholesome moments with nothing too annoying to scare the adults away and she would've won!
Had she done nothing beyond the bare minimum of this formula, the results wouldn'tve differed.

If you pay close attention, you would realize just how unremarkable the show is at everything else it tries, including comedy. It's a show made to be enjoyed, not really thought about.
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>>42815392
>Why are anons like this
boredom or autism
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>>42815171
Because 99% of its training data is Reddit posts.
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>shartycuck told his instance of chatgpt to stop using "—"
>and now "argues" with his own posts
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A janitor has seen this thread and willingly allowed it to stay up. Remember that next time you're wondering whether or not you should be creating more work for them.
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>>42815426
>janitor has seen this thread
proxyfag, mods have a separate queue for NSFW reports that they respond to
threads where nsfw is posted are ignored unless OP is NSFW
janny that actually cleans this shit is still 'eepy
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>>42815422
As someone who writes, I hate how the em dash is now considered a sign of AI usage when the software I use legitimately just has a built in auto-correct that allows me to put them in despite having no idea how to type them on my keyboard.
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>>42815433
disable auto-correct and write --
profit
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>>42815435
But I like using em dashes though, they have specific uses in writing. I like the auto-correct since it makes it way easier to put them in. They have genuine grammatical value is the problem, which is why I hate how everyone uses them as a red flag now solely because AI's are hyper grammatically proper.
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>>42815435
>>42815456
Also I think the double dashes looks stupid and I don't like it. Em dash looks cleaner.
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>>42815087
GAH DAMN.
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>>42815055
What a retard, you don't even know what nostalgia is.
Kill yourself G% fag.



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