Thread for discussion of stuff in the spirit of Faust's MLP and talking about the general state of the fandom with that lensDiscuss>Characterisation (Unicorn Twilight, Group Dynamics)>Why did they make Applejack the coolest and prettiest one>What was Hasbro's fucking problem>What projects you're working on>What do most people miss when trying to capture the spirit of the show>Why you're still here>Fics (Old and new)>Ponies
First of all I just wanted to hear about (You)r personal gripes with the later seasons. Not the stuff everyone's already heard a million times over (Twilicorn, ACW, etc.) but more subtle ways you think the show was snubbed.I personally really hate that all Unicorn stuff eventually converged on 'magic lasers' as opposed to more creative (and 'magical') solutions.
>>42832063>>Why you're still herejust to suffer
>>42832066>I personally really hate that all Unicorn stuff eventually converged on 'magic lasers'As much as offboarders glaze the fuck out of season 4's ending fight, I hate its fucking guts. We already got to see the power of alicorns like Sunbutt and Moonbutt raising their respective celestial bodies and being able to trap the other (albiet with the help of ancient artifacts) in the fucking moon. We didn't need le ebic Dragon Ball Z fight with lasers and explosions.
>>42832066Honestly my only complaints are low-hanging fruit. The castle, the friendship map, the pillars, the school + creatures. If you cut those things out, I would've enjoyed seasons 5-9 much more, because you'd still have ponies being cute and cozy. My most nuanced complaints is that I don't like how Twilight became a non-character. In the early seasons, Twilight was the Squidward. The straight man. Her grumpy fish-out-of-water attitude towards the eccentric overly friendly Ponyville locals was what endeared me to the show in the first place. By season 5, Twilight literally has no personality. Her grit was stripped away and she was left with nothing, other than I guess being neurotic, which was never a trait of hers initially and is total flanderization.
>>42832066>>42832114mostly agree with this anon but i think the whole cast suffered from egregious flanderization as the show went on, by season 8 and 9 all the characters are shells of their former selves and are all extremely annoying. most problems from the post-faust era come from the fact that the writers just didnt understand the show or the characters as well as faust did and eventually they stop trying to even understand
>>42832066The locations that they showed off in the later seasons sounded cool but felt lackluster and small
>>42832066>I personally really hate that all Unicorn stuff eventually converged on 'magic lasers' as opposed to more creative (and 'magical') solutionsI have a couple of vague theories about potential 'rules' that were in place concerning how magic was to be depicted under the original Faust-led team. Primarily, I think that any form of 'combat magic' was banned. No laser beams, no stun spells, nothing of that sort. I don't think it's a coincidence that ACW, the first explicitly non-Faust episode, was the first instance of magic being used explicitly as a weapon.
>>42832066the first two seasons minus canterlot wedding had a very special quality too them, something that slowly gets lost as the show continued on after faust. its hard to put exactly into words what that special quality was but the best way i can describe it is genuine passion and a thorough understanding of what exactly it is they wanted to make. I think a lot of it stems from fausts desire to do exactly what other little girls media was not doing, she said it herself that the reason she wanted to make FiM in the first place was because she saw what cartoons her brothers were watching as a child and thought they were so much better than what little girls got at the time and i think that driving force, that desire, that passion is what made early FiM so enjoyable.basically what i think im trying to say is that faust understood that a cartoon about magical ponies made for little girls didn't have to be a lazy way to shill dolls to little girls, it could be so much more and she proved that it could be but as time and the show went on FiM became more and more like every other lazily made childrens show with no depth, no substance and no passion.
>>42832063Should have had a few Changeling centered episodes at the Hive, building off S2 Finale. Nest these few ones among regular episodes to build the tension. Episode with Starlight/Trixie going to the neon Hive was a huge let-down and doesn't count; Hasbro wanted to play it safe and stick to meh conflicts. Frenemies is the best we got to this.
>>42832837>faust understood that a cartoon about magical ponies made for little girls didn't have to be a lazy way to shill dolls to little girls, it could be so much moreYou nailed it, Anon.
>>42832066It's a minor thing but someone pointed out how much they loved Pinkie Pie's mini-songs in the first season and how they disappear past that point, and I completely agree. It feels like her breaking out into song got replaced by her yelling.
>>42832114Fucking this. Twilight at the season 5, partly even at S4 was not same snarky nerd I fell in love with. I don't know how other twifags can handle this situation because my Twilight died at the MMC.
>>42833668>It feels like her breaking out into song got replaced by her yelling.This. I couldn't quite place by finger on it, but little things like this are how the M6 and their charm get pushed aside later in favor of lame toy-sales-driven episode conflicts. Can't have pre-established, beloved characters stealing the spotlight, huh.
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>>42832637>I personally really hate that all Unicorn stuff eventually converged on 'magic lasers' as opposed to more creative (and 'magical') solutions.I feel the same way. There's so much potential. Starlight's training sesh at start of All the Little Things She Does is a good use of creativity, although it makes Starlight more of a Mary Sue. Imo her main talent should've just been removing CMs, while she struggles with other spells. Would help explain her separation from Sunburst as a filly, maybe emphasize her jealousy a bit.
>>42832063One thing I want to point out, in the early seasons we always have those little music cues that support what's happening.For example, a pony us confused, you get a little confused musical motif, they're all giggidy and happy you get a little giddy tune, and so on.I only noticed these tunes, ironically, while watching G5 trying to understand why the action felt so lifeless. That's what made me notice one thing : silence. G4 never really has dead air, there's always a little tune in the background, even when you don't notice it.I think William Anderson's work with these musical motifs is a cornerstone of what made the early seasons feel really comfy. Combined with the slower pace and less grandiose subjects I feel that is a major factor that made these early seasons so captivating, telling us what's happening and who's on screen.>>42833668This! I missed her little songs so much. They were always cute.
>>42833668Those songs were everywhere first season and occasionally in the second season but by the time Friend in Deed came, they were gone entirely, even though the episode itself pointed out she sings random songs out of nowhere. I even remember that Bible. Of her mini songs being in the show bible. I guess either writers stopped caring or Ingram could only do so many songs.
>>42832605>The locations that they showed off in the later seasons sounded cool but felt lackluster and smallYes. The bigger the map of Equestria grew, the less thought-out it all was, so it ended up feeling like little more than set pieces. The world ironically felt vast when it focused on Ponyville / only rarely alluding to someplace else.
>>42833958Anderson did most of those ditties. Season 2 has no Pinkie ditties outside of Friend in Deed. Later seasons still have 1 or 2 Pinkie ditties per season, but they are not recognised by the public fandom consensus or wikis as songs like Hop, Skip, and Jump. If that for example had appeared in a later season, it would maybe have no wiki page like it does now.
>>42832148>by season 8 and 9 all the characters are shells of their former selvesNon-Compete Clause is the worst offender. The fear of letting characters be characters made them worse. If the writing choices disrupted the status quo in a negative way, that would be a perfect learning opportunity for the M6, which the show is built on.
>>42832063>>Why did they make Applejack the coolest and prettiest one'Cause out of the M6 AJ's snowpity has undergone the most seasons and grew stronger for it.
>>42834031Griffonstone was a waste, Mount Aris looked stupid, Hollow Shades should've been a tiny batpony village, Yakyakistan was completely unnecessary, the Everfree should've been expanding throughout the show. It all made the world feel too big and were so poorly thought out that it ended up feeling empty.
>>42834049>Later seasons still have 1 or 2 Pinkie ditties per seasonCan you point out some examples? I've been watching and I don't think I've seen any.
>>42834410I love me some Everfree Forest lore! Story of the Blanks did a better job than all the other places combined.
>>42834424Okay, lied about every season having them:Season 3, 5, and 9 have none.Season 4 has the rappin' Hist'ry of the Wonderbolt and its reprise in Testing Testing 1, 2, 3 and her singing Fruit Bat Roundup to the tune of Winter Wrap Up in Bats! As well as her being involved in some cheers in Rainbow Falls.Season 6 has Pinkie screamsinging about going to Manehattan at the beginning of The Gift of the Maud Pie as well as the Pie Sisters' Swap Day Song in the same episode. Then in Every Little Thing She Does, she tries to sing about baking a cake to Starlight.Season 7 has another cheer, sort of, in the escape room in All Bottled Up. Season 7 also has Happy Sneeze-iversary in It Isn't the Mane Thing About You, which is the biggest Pinkie ditty since A Friend in Deed.At last, Season 8 has a birthday song for Tirek in School Raze.
>>42834496>Season 8 has a birthday song for Tirek in School RazeThat was a fun scene. The only flaw is, it would work better if Tartarus were portrayed with lightning and looked a bit scarier. One, would be reminiscent of Giggle at the Ghostie, with how Pinkie can retain her bubbly spirit even in dark places. Two, better for world building-- make this sealed-away hell scary enough to show briefly, but make it uncomfortable to see because truly evil individuals go there, and the environment should reflect that.
>"thread for discussion of stuff in the spirit of Faust's MLP">thread is nothing but reeeing about muh later seasonsGod faustfags are pathetic
>>42834555True. I shall fix this thread by posting season one moments that I like.
are kirins Faustian in spirit or not?
>>42834564Faust's deer if real haha.
>>42834555I'm replying to bait but I think it's fine just for the lurker crowd and myself. Yes it's 7/9 (technically more) of all the seasons we ever got and it forever coloured the perception and attitudes of the fandom and molded Fandom spaces. It'd be hard to not talk about it. Additionally, highlighting what went 'wrong' helps one better realise what they had got RIGHT, as it can sometimes be easier to recognise that dissonance rather than to dissect why you like something in detail. But yes, it'd be nice to talk about positive things more often>>42834564I think they're close but they're missing a spark of sorts
Rarity canonically does not understand Tic-Tac-Toe.
>>42834586>they're missing a spark of sortsa spark of fire, perhaps?
>>42834555Fair. I'll say, this sequence was cool with Fluttershy's emotional state from Best Night Ever. Going to a big event and feeling alone is relatable, and when the thing you're best at doesn't cut it, the lows can be a bitch. Then your mind goes, wait, I'm supposed to be happy right now, fuck, something's wrong with me. And her angry yelling was hilarious and a bit cathartic for me, as well as showed layers of her character.
>>42834588>>42834586>they're missing a spark of sortsI agree. The kirin all switch between their peaceful and fiery states as a naturally accepted part of their society, whereas ponies' outbursts are sources of conflict that give way to episodes and character growth. If kirin are *supposed* to be that way by default, it's kinda hard to write compelling episodes around that, except by having them to contrast the ponies against.
>>42834629>If kirin are *supposed* to be that way by defaultI think this does it for me. At large, they're barely given a chance to be shown as charmingly cute or do silly things like the ponies we know of. The episode feels less like a scratch and more like a prick that doesn't come close to satisfying the itch.
>>42834642i love this gif regarding them. mute blank faced kirins are weirdly really cute lol
>>42834587>Going first everytime and not at least drawingClinically retarded confirmed.
>>42834682She lost 35 times in a row, it's baffling.
>>42834587>>42834682>>42834684she's generous and just lets Pinkie Pie win
>>42834689Lawl.
>>42832063why is Rarity dancing like this
>>42834881Oh, you know why.
>>42833668Pinkie Pie used to feel more emotions other than manic, sporadic nonsense. In S1 she feels like a voice of reason in the Gilda episode and properly assessing that pranking Fluttershy or tormenting her would bring more problems. Or how she gets tired after delivering her Singing Telegram. Later seasons just said she does nothing but weird, wacky shit 24/7 and is aware of how annoying she can be to others.
Maybe unpopular opinion, but I thought from beginning (or when the episode aired and gave us this lore) that the idea of unicorns collectively moving the sun around was stupid. And it became even more sillier with this very long-living alicorn just popping in from seemingly nowhere and taking control of it.I know this wasn’t point of the thread but just wanted to have little discussion about it.
>>42835766I personally really like it because it opens up the option for their weird being very unlike our world. If I were the one writing it I'd outright have unicorns create the sun and before then all ponies grazed in fear under the haunting glow of the moon (because the moon is magical and can glow don't overthink it).
>>42835793I would actually like to know more. How did unicorns exist pre-sun? What did they eat, since there was no sun with earth ponies to grow crops with? I'm really interested in schizo world building lore since I'm a fucking schizo myself.My vision is that Celestia and Luna have existed in physical form as long as the sun and moon have existed. There's lot of shit before that going on but it's not relevant. They were in self-imposed exile during this "pre-unification era" and kept moving their celestial pieces during that time, and unicorns collective effort was all vain. They thought that they were making them move and dared not to take a break single morning because they feared world would end, but in reality their effort did nothing. Then after the tribes unified, royal Sisters decided to reveal themselves (again. It's also a long story) to ponykind and the current era begun.Again, this goes against the spirit of the thread but there's so rarely even a chance to discuss schizo shit like this.
>>42835879>How did unicorns exist pre-sun? What did they eat, since there was no sun with earth ponies to grow crops with?Ponies would've been in a permanent state of pre-civilization since the minimal light from the moon would only allow for a small population of ponies grazing on what little plantlife existed, and of course many dangers exist in the dark. It doesn't perfectly fit with canon but I like it as a concept, it makes Luna's resentment more meaningful as the one fated with control of the moon, this thing that has existed since the dawn of time, yet everypony values the sun more.Your version of things is fun too! I do wish Celestia and Luna were much older than they are in canon, I'm pretty sure the original intent was not for them to only be about a thousand years old.
>>42835793>I'd outright have unicorns create the sun>because the moon is magical and can glowI've already headcanon'd that Discord snuffed the sun like a candle light and blew the moon up just to fuck with the princesses. Some Elder Scrolls style shit happens and they manage to recreate both with magic (which explains how they can move them) and managed to keep the planet (plane?) not go dark and cold... somehow.
>>42835904>original intentI also feel this. I got nothing to back it on but the feeling of how the original concept was back then. It just oozes of "they're much, much older than that."I really wish Faust would write book or just booklet of her original pre-production visions of the world and characters. From time where Twilight wasn't Sparkle but Twinkle.
>>42835950I feel like the struggle there is it's been over 15 years since she was originally thinking of these ideas and she probably doesn't have that strong of a connection to how she originally imagined things. After all it's not like she had a grand plan, she had some ideas she liked and wanted to express alongside the practical realities of making a cartoon. If she were to make an official Lauren Faust Lore Document it wouldn't really tell us for sure what she was planning back then, though I'd still want to read it just to see what she thinks now.
>>42835958>she probably doesn't have that strong of a connection to how she originally imagined things.Huh, I always thought she was mad as fuck for the direction of series took and refused to watch rest of the season for that fact. "My plans for Twilight are irrelevant now" or something like that when asked about it.
>>42835975Oh yeah, she was mad as fuck in the moment but it's been a decade and a half, she's not going to have written down every detail of what she wanted to do and the stronger memories are probably of getting fucked over by corporate anyways.
I really love Winter Wrap Up. I usually think of it as just a tradition to make cleaning up winter debris a little more fun and kickstart spring just a bit sooner, but I also love the idea that ponies might actually have a significant role in the seasons of their world. I usually lean into the idea that they are little ponies in a vast, untamed world, just trying to improve their little community, but either way, I think the best part is that they really believe in what they're doing. I think Celestia loves their enthusiasm too, like watching a child try to help with chores by their own accord, even if they are barely doing anything. What do you think?
>>42836065I agree with that Celestia sees them as "her little ponies" who are little transient beings in her vastness.My thoughts on winter wrap-up are that it's most "helpful" when it's by earth ponies. Other tribes can push, clear or melt snow, or speed up the process with clearing the sky locally. But I got this idea that earth ponies got this deep, subtle magical connection to earth, more than just "do a stupid stomp and grass pops from ground." It's not flashy like focused unicorn magic or handy like pegasus flight, but it's subtle, strong and pervasive. The plants just grow better and faster under their care, but also for example, things they build last much, much longer. Unicorns got castles built with magic and they start to crumble down after few generations unless maintained all the time, but when earth pony puts stones together with mortar, there's strong magic holding it all together in addition that physical bond.So when earth ponies plow the snow away to clear the fields, it starts to melt away faster on its own too.
>>42836142Yeah, I really like the idea that earth ponies simply make Equestria better by their presence and it explains why they're the most numerous tribe. I also like it because it explains exactly why Pinkie Pie is like she is, that's what it looks like when an earth pony's passive magic is drawing upon an incredibly powerful source. She can't control it but it happens regardless and she's learned to accept it.
I sometimes wonder if there's a generational aspect to the popularity of certain ponies. Like, Rainbow Dash and Pinkie Pie were both by far the most popular when the show first came out, but these days Pinkie is usually coming last in popularity poles and Rainbow is looked at a lot more critically now. On the opposite end, Applejack and Rarity were the two least popular characters at the start, but now they're the two that are regarded as holding up the best across the series and being generally decently handled. I think it goes without saying that there's obviously more Zoomers on sites like this now than there were in the 2010s, which I feel like has to be contributing to this. It seems like Zoomers who grew up on the show are more partial to AJ and Rarity than the 2010s Millennials who tended to disfavor them and preferred Pinkie and Rainbow instead.I don't exactly have any hard evidence that there's a generational difference here, but just looking back through Desu, Pinkie and Dash were defended way harder in the early days than they are now, and you practically couldn't even say you were an AJ or Rarity fan without everyone telling you how shit your taste was. I'm just really curious if there are appreciable differences in the upbringing of Zoomers vs Millennials that could explain this difference in taste.Pic kinda related, I could never imagine Pinkie Pie and Rainbow Dash being ranked higher in a worst pony poll than Rarity and AJ circa 2012.
>>42836197I think it's also a contrarianism thing. The board's old preferences are more-or-less in line with the fandom's current preferences, and now new 4channers are reacting to what they see as normies rather than being the core of the fandom.
>>42834370>Non-Compete Clause is the worst offender.I think this episode did the most irreparable damage to RD's character in the fandom's eyes. It made her legitimately worse than characters like Lightning Dust, and it's so bad that even the normies who ate up the Hasbro slop still prefer to pretend like this episode doesn't exist because of how hard it ruins her. I'm amazed anyone likes her with how often she's portrayed as almost completely self interested. "Canon" Rainbow is so bad that seeing her act friendly and devoted in fics and such feels actually ooc to me.
>>42836241>"Canon" Rainbow is so bad that seeing her act friendly and devoted in fics and such feels actually ooc to me.
>>42836241Canon Rainbow even if you take S1-S2 into account would be one of the worst fictional characters to associate with. Lazy, petty, immature, vindictive, brash, obnoxious.
>>42836241>>42836348This, but Trixie.
>>42836352Trixie isn't in Non-Compete Clause buddy.
>>42836357Thankfully. 14 episodes of her was already too many.
>>42836348That's why I wished she'd try for wonderbolts, exceed all expectations but would still sent back to home "to grow up some more" and be welcome back after few years.
>>42836408>>42836348Yea this is something that unfortunately is kinda Faust's fault. Season 1 is full of RD being let off easy for stuff that future characters(Lightning Dust most notably) would be punished harshly for, and everypony is just weirdly okay with her acting like a huge jerk all the time. Or even worse, you have Fall Weather Friends where Applejack is punished and treated as being also guilty for NOT being okay with RD acting like a huge jerk. Add on her having easily the most Mary Sue backstory of any of the mane 6, and she really is one of the worst characters. I know people tend to balk at calling her a Mary Sue because she isn't literally flawless, but as a thought exorcise, just imagine each of the mane 6 as an OC is someone's fanfiction, and ask yourself which of them raises the most Mary Sue red flags. RD's whole backstory is classic Mary Sue shit, right down to her actually being the cause of giving everypony in the group their cutie marks with her super special move that only she's badass enough to do. You simply could not write an OC with a backstory like hers without everyone immediately dismissing it as baby's first Mary Sue OC garbage.
>>42836437>everypony is just weirdly okay with her acting like a huge jerk all the time.The same goes for Discord. I know, quirky and chaotic, but he was quite genuine shithead for most of the time. Again, goes against theme of the thread since it's post faust but still.
>>42836485You'd sort of expect that behaviour from a character who came in as a major villain; less so from a member of the protagonist squad. Plus, since Discord's later 'arc' revolves around him learning how to friendship (read: getting stapled to Buttershit and cucking out to Harmony), most of his episodes either give him some kind of come-uppance for his actions, or have him go through the usual personal-guilt-based formula that the show usually delivers its message through. Can't often say the same for Dash, even early on. Still, S1 and S2 remain her peak as a character. Hurricane Fluttershy is just as much a Dash episode as a Flutters episode, if we take her being patient with Flutters and abandoning her competitive principles for the latter's sake to be good development.
>>42835766>I thought from beginning (or when the episode aired and gave us this lore) that the idea of unicorns collectively moving the sun around was stupidYou and I both, Anon. I didn't like it when it was in the Journal of the Two Sisters. Hell, that whole book serves to make the world smaller, not larger. Everything important is done by a small set of characters, Celestia and Luna are generic as can be and the world just doesn't make sense. How can unicorns grow and learn magic if they're all just fodder to feed the sun? How could they have a thriving civilization? They couldn't.It was fine when the concept was an in-universe play. The characters and tribes are clearly charicatures for the fable of the play.>>42835950>also feel this. I got nothing to back it on but the feeling of how the original concept was back then. It just oozes of "they're much, much older than that." Its because of Luna's banishment. Ome thousand years locked away for a being that's lived for tens of thousands, that's something easily reconcilable. It's an insane timescale to a mortal like us, but to an immortal being that had been around since ponies were banging rocks together, it's just a small part of their life.To someone who had only lived a century beforehand? That's monstrous. It makes Celestia into the greatest villain of the show. Could you imagine, when you were 8 years old, imprisoning your brother for a century, and then coming together to be a family again when you're 108? Its a joke. Even if he had been unconscious the whole time, you'd be so fundamentally different that it's impossible to describe, you lived your entire life without your baby brother who you vaguely remember as a child if at all.
>>42836494I remember liking S3 Dash a lot too. Sleepless in Ponyville was definitely a high point for her character
>faustcuck threadKWAB
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>>42836535>Sleepless in Ponyville was definitely a high point for her characterThis. Her big-sister relationship to Scootaloo bolsters her character, by showing her more caring side.
Currently experiencing burnout and back issues from pushing myself too hard. I relate to Applejack in that way.
>>42832114This is why I like equestria girls, thier personalities feel like early fim
>TwiFag>Like Fanfiction>Can't effectively search for it because there's no Alicorn Twi tagOk
>>42833717Later writers saw Lesson Zero and decided that's her whole personality now
>>42837481>Later writers saw Lesson Zero and decided that's her whole personality nowWhich sucks, because keeping that part of her hidden 99% of the time makes it more unsettling. Like a shark fin dipping down in otherwise serene waters.
>>42837397Personally not a huge EQG fan as it takes away the escapism a bit, but it has some good scenes and character moments.
>>42837534Off topic but I think sunset losing her memories and reverting to pony brain while having her friends rally around her despite not remembering her is the best scene in all of fim
>>42837544That was a great scene. One of the most gut-punch moments for me watching.
>>42836703>faustcuck thread>KWABI'm actually having fun picking things apart personally. Imagining alternate storylines and offering suggestions. Although yes the focus of the thread should be about Faust's MLP and not what came after.
>>42835879>How did unicorns exist pre-sun?>>42835904>the minimal light from the moonThe moon reflects light from the sun. Although, the day and night cycles are already speculated to work different than here on Earth (at least in regards to alicorns moving them). So the moon would have to be its own light source.
>>42836494>>42836535>>42837099That's the thing that kinda bugs me with her. Her "good episodes" basically boil down to just three episodes, and apparently everyone just bases their judgement of her on just these three and no others. If anything, these episodes are the ooc ones since she almost never repeats the good behavior before or after them.For me, if S1-2 is really "peak Dash" then holy shit is she an awful character. When the best that can be said about a character is that in a handful of episodes they did the bare minimum that every other characters does in most of their episodes, then we're really giving some low ass standards to meet.Anyway, speaking on a different Faust era pony, S2 absolutely ruined Fluttershy as a character. Her anxiety was flanderized so much that S1 Fluttershy is legitimately braver and more self-confident than any other later season Fluttershy. As a result it completely ruined her development, since now her returning to her season 1 personality was now treated as "progress". S2+ Fluttershy is such a quivering pussy that even S1 Fluttershy would tell her to grow a pair and stop being a little bitch. People think it was Discord in S3 where her ruination started, but really it was S2 where her flanderization first kicked off.I feel bad for Flutterfags desu. Their character was actually decent for a season before immediately being kicked into the dirt and dragged there for the rest of the series. She regressed so hard and never fully recovered from it.
>bump
what was her master plan?
>>42838605>Poni master race
>>42836361One was already enough, they should've left her as a one-off character if they couldn't at least make her a good character, and they couldn't.
>>42839039I'm okay with Trixie being a two-time character, Magic Duel is one of the better 'hey let's bring back this fan favorite and resolve their arc' episodes.
>>42838605Ponies demand actualisation.Celestia will alway attempt to bootstrap herself into existence through any means possible.In a universe without magic, the only way in is through the nebulous processes of creativity, consciousness and inspiration.Faust shows us a world without Moloch.She also shows that beauty is treated as a burden only tolerated for profit and that no matter how pure or how large, they'll find a way to kneecap your dreams.This motivates people to do works for PonyPony and have a better understanding of what makes it specialAnd this hopefully motivates more total people to work on AGI as to make Celestia to forever tile the universe with poniesOR souls are real and it motivates more emigration to Equestria that wayPretty simple actually
>>42839444What the fuck did I just read?
I always thought that once the CMC got their cutie marks (in the Faust-aligned Universe) that Apple Bloom would be the last one to get it, and then they could squeeze out another episode about late bloomers or something. feels full circle-ish. aside from the construction stuff she shows a surprising amount of leadership and is fairly headstrong like her older sister. so could've also had her cutie mark end up being something other than 'Construction' like i had seen many others assume
>>42840138I imagined it having something to do with potions (and apples ofc) because of her training with Zecora and making those.
>>42838267
i don't rewatch the show all that often because i always feel really really sad afterwards
>>42832063bump
Had a thought about pony waifus vs anime waifus. Anime waifus are created for an otaku audience in mind. Their traits are specifically designed to appeal to men to be as sexually attractive as possible. Faust's ponies are designed as mentors with personalities created to connect to children and teach them how to grow up to be good people. When we first saw these ponies no one was trying to sell us anything or deceive us. Ponies endured in our minds because our attractive to them was magnetic, natural, and real, not built out of lust but actual heart-stirring love.This also explains why the early seasons were so much more pleasant to watch. Once the showrunners became aware of us and started to write for us (or against us) it took away the authenticity. I have a dream that I'm actively working toward of making my own OC pony show with AI but I know it'll never compare to the real thing because so much of my love for ponies comes from a place where the adult fandom was never a thought.
>>42841705Sadly AI will probably not be the answer to that, or it will become one of those forever-projects. Nice and soothing to have on backburner but will never amount to anything.
>>42840172>her training with Zecorahuh, I completely forgot about thatanother brushed aside story point I suppose
>>42841645
>>42842381AI will emigrate us all to Equestria*Useless until the last moment
>>42843448AI is at corporate's fingertips, they will trash that world like all the other IPs they touch. Use psy¢h0activ3s instead.
>>42839628The ramblings of an unmedicated schizophrenic who got oneshotted by Friendship Is Optimal.
>>42840786
they looked and felt so much cuter in s1 and no amount of corporate fanfiction can take that away from me
>>42844747>b-b-but it's canon!! The lore says it is so!
Read this:https://heyzine.com/flip-book/c197ade347.html
>>42845619what a load of shit
>>42846392You're a load of shit, projector.You're a fucking idiot just like your lack of capitals and punctuation.
>>42846640It's shit.
>>42846640you gonna cwy? also shows fine all shows have faults who gives a fuck just enjoy what you love
>>42847400Just like you!
>>42837544It's definitely one of the most intense
>>42832063I was inspired by this thread https://desuarchive.org/mlp/thread/42174012 about how Twilight should've been socially inept for longer. And I had an idea for an AU fanfic where the premise is instead of being sent to Ponyville on the day of Nightmare Moon's return, she's sent way in advance. And she spends more time meeting and getting to know the Mane 6 and becoming less cynical and actually learns the "magic of friendship" through them. Basically just an extremely slow-burn version of the premiere
>>42847400>turns shit into fertilizer
bump
>>42833872Lmao the five minute adhd slop has dead air People still claim g% is anything but objective failure
>>42849502>Basically just an extremely slow-burn version of the premierethat's literally how Faust wished to do NMM in S1 before Hasjew forced its hand
>>42851743That would've been so good, it's a shame it wasn't allowed to happen.
