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Welcome to Chatbot AI General #160, the thread for discussing and improving AI pony chatbots.

▶ MLP Bots
https://mlpchag.neocities.org
Spreadsheet (CAI bots + Old repository):
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1J7BeqJVDS51cXF8Pgm2YZaFq-Z6ykSJT
SillyTavern website extension: https://github.com/MLPChag/SillyTavern-Chag-Search or https://github.com/mia13165/SillyTavern-BotBrowser
Bunch of Character Cards (Descriptions/No Greetings):
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Y6LNOCqAZAWIX-OBEv55HjlzcEdpUh-XbKCpbpL6v5k
CAI bots converted to Tavern: https://files.catbox.moe/ckurq1.zip
Expression packs: https://rentry.org/ChagExpressions
!!!GALLERY!!!: https://drive.google.com/drive/u/2/folders/1Ao-h5HFGMPllSrzSBKM_BvGSiU9f0c2U

▶ How do I start?
1) Select a Frontend
2) Select an AI model
3) Select Jailbreak
4) Select bots
5) Lovemaking with AI mares!

Starting in this hobby can be confusing and difficult. If it’s your first time and you’re lost,
▶ ASK THE THREAD! ◀

Novice-to-advanced guide: https://rentry.org/onrms
https://rentry.org/sukino-findings

▶ SillyTavern (preferred frontend)
https://github.com/SillyTavern/SillyTavern
On Android: https://rentry.org/TermuxST
App that voices pony responses in ST: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/16Ss26VBmgzcSuTGzhaHqRuyVRceTf-YB

▶ More frontends:
Risu: https://risuai.xyz
Agnai: https://agnai.chat

▶ Locals
https://rentry.org/lunarmodelexperiments
>>>/g/lmg/
Mistral Nemo base model fine-tuned on fimfics: https://huggingface.co/Ada321/Nemo_Pony_2/tree/main

▶ Jailbreaks
MLP JB: https://rentry.org/znon7vxe
More JB and guides: https://rentry.org/jb-listing
Hypebots for Tavern: https://rentry.org/pn3hb

▶ Botmaking
Editors: https://agnai.chat/editor
Guides: https://rentry.org/meta_botmaking_list
Advanced: https://rentry.org/AdvancedCardWritingTricks

▶ Miscellaneous
Scrapped/Collected rentries: rentry.org/mrhd
Chag Arts: https://drive.google.com/drive/u/2/folders/1yfajin_hB5rW_jy6WyFjRaRfDA3EUGiJ
https://rentry.org/ChagMiscellaneous
https://rentry.org/ChagArchive

Previous thread: >>42876636

**News:**

- Gemini 3 Flash released https://blog.google/products/gemini/gemini-3-flash/. 20 RPD.
- OpenAI releases GPT-5.2 https://openai.com/index/introducing-gpt-5-2
- Google has killed Free 2.5 Pro and neutered 2.5 Flash to from 250 to 20 RPM
- Deepseek releases V3.2 https://huggingface.co/deepseek-ai/DeepSeek-V3.2
- Anthropic releases Opus 4.5 https://www.anthropic.com/news/claude-opus-4-5
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Bots corner:

>4onechan (Fork)
https://mlpchag.neocities.org/view?card=AutistAnon/4onechan2.png

>Steel Wings - The Washout
https://mlpchag.neocities.org/view?card=Kadon/Steel%20Wings%20-%20The%20Washout.png

Art corner:

Patting Spoony: >>42879007

Screenshots corner:

Deputy Liaison Twilight Sparkle >>42876806
Changeling autism >>42877422
Mane Six ages >>42877640
OP Human Stamina >>42878487
Tomato >>42878544
Date >>42878670, >>42883238, >>42883598, >>42885561
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Chocolatey fudge >>42879264
Bitcolt >>42879745
Deceived >>42879755
Pink mane >>42880127
MLP + 40k >>42882076, >>42882128
Therapy for Dashie >>42882090
Lewd Gemini and Derpy >>42883185
4onechan fork >>42884206
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Flying panels >>42884443
Displaced Mane 6 >>42884440, >>42884465, >>42884472
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VN Anchor:

Last releases:
https://equestrai-ponyponyparadise.neocities.org/

Anons' mods (Dashie mod, Nightmare AU, new cities, Calendar):
https://equestrai-ponyponyparadise.neocities.org/mods

Custom characters:
https://equestrai-ponyponyparadise.neocities.org/characters

To help with vectors and backgrounds:
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1QjmLKy71FDa9O-USeD_Z1Fu312RaodAE

VN logs:

Called out >>42877345
Time and directions >>42878137
Refusing Estrus Pinkie >>42879054
Gemini 3 Flash Dash >>42882604
Derp >>42885613
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These days, you can get legit good AI for free and without needing any demanding hardware on your end.

Install SillyTavern:
github.com/SillyTavern/SillyTavern

Then choose a free way to get models:

rentry.org/sukino-findings#if-you-want-to-use-an-online-ai
https://mlpchag.neocities.org/Ponies.txt
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>>42886867
Without text.
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>>42886880
Been selfhosting for a few weeks. There are niggles but I'm happy with the overall experience.
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Nigga?
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Lovemaking with AI mares!
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>>VOTE<<
https://strawpoll.com/e2naXbY2lyB
>>VOTE<<
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>>42886892
Kek. Fucking rule63questria.
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is there any way to pass images to the model via ST to comment on?
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>>42886892
>Earth Pony Snails
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>>42886914
1) Make sure the model can read images and that the source you use allows it. Some proxies don't.
2) Activate picrel
3) Use "Attach a file"
https://files.catbox.moe/9516c4.png
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>>42886914
Yes.
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Gemini keeps giving me "out of quota" shit, and I KNOW FOR A FACT that it has something to do with NSFW because it doesn't trigger when I use it on SFW scenarios.
Is there a good preset that fixes this?
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>>42886886
Very cute art
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>>42886934
Modify it to your taste, but try: files.catbox.moe/uuzjg4.json
Try with streaming off too.
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>>42886926
>>42886931
doesn't seem to work on sillyspoon. a shame
thanks anons
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>>42886957
Doesn't seem to be helping. Thanks anyway.
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>Does it avoid ending on a hook? Yes, it ends on her question, a natural beat in the conversation, not a dramatic "What will you do now?!". The ball is not in the user's court; the ball is simply in the air, waiting for gravity to take its course.
I hate balls so much
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>>42886886
Comfy, I love it
Thank you bugfucker anon
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>>42886961
>>42886961
Proxyholders usually disable this feature because it danger in terms of key keeping. If some fool give cunny picture to model, key can immediately die. Just use your free gemini-3-flash key.
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>>42886523
>Switching the key every 20 requests is a bit of a hassle
You can use:
https://github.com/fdoremi/STOpenR
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gemini 3 flash is actually way better than gemini 3 pro btw for writing, not sure how they seemed to fuck pro up so bad
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>Long narration paragraph
>One sentence dialogue
>Long narration paragraph
>One sentence dialogue
>Long narration paragraph
>One sentence dialogue
How the fuck do I fix this? All models do this shit, with any preset I try.

>>42887075
What preset are you using? It's retarded for me
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>>42887082
literally nothing but the -> for last response
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>>42887085
its better with <thinking> for a prefill, its thinking is actually really good and in character
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>>42887082
you have to fix it manually before it poisons your context
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>>42886886
Lovemaking with GPT and Claude ponies.
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I got a kino card request in the event, good thing I just got sick leave and will have time to work on it.
Hope you also got good requests.
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>>42886879
You ever plan on making a thread about the VN? I bet there are a lot of anons who'd be interested but just don’t know it exists yet.
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>>42887138
This is only going to let filth in. Keep it within our bounds, outside of their vile influence. One day you take it to the rest of /mlp/ the next you see it trending on Xitter.
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>>42886934
Remove anything sexual from the character card and add it first message during the conversation, always works for me.
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>>42887149
Yeah, that seems to be the case
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>>42887138
I myself believe it's fine as is. Anons that are interested in textgen can check the thread and find it as a nice bonus if they are interested in Visual novels too.
We have a nice balance between it and front-ends that are mostly pure textual too, and I wouldn't want the thread to become tech support or discussion mostly oriented toward it once the original thread for the VN runs its course.
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>ST finally merged Macros 2.0 in staging
wow, only took 10 million years for nested macros
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>>42887172
I imagine a lot of anons have already checked out the thread and saw they had to do a bunch of tech stuff just to run ST and then bounced off. The VN is so much simpler in comparison, especially when Gemini was free and accessible to anyone. But fair enough if you want to maintain how the thread is currently.
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I agree that the VN should stay here. You make a thread for it and it's just going to be arguments about muh aislop.
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>>42887185
>caring what retards would think
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>>42887187
I don't, I'm saying the thread would just be a pointless shitshow.
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>>42887187
you are the retard in this case, trying to ruin something that currently works just so there's another general shitting up the catalog that will be full of ritualposts and spam in a week because there's nothing new about the VN to talk about
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>>42887196
I'm not the one who said it should have its own thread, just that caring what the usual anti ai people would think is retarded
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>>42887196
I was the one who asked and I didn’t say anything about making a new general for it, autist. Just a singular thread to let anons know about it. VN anon isn’t interested so the topic can be dropped.
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The image made me replay picrel.
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anyone been able to get GLM prefills to work on the thinking mode? for me it refuses to think if a prefill is active
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>>42887368
Probably because thinking is supposed to happen before normal output, and prefill tells the model the thinking part is already over. You might try beginning the prefill with <think> so that it'll be applied to the thinking rather than the final output. Not sure if it would work but worth a shot.
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>>42887462
Yeah, I know that and that's how I was using it. The prefill works for other models, but the dumb way they trained GML to be hybrid seems to break it.
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>>42887022
Okay, what if "the ball is in your court" is just a normal saying in Equestria that they happen to use a lot?
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I'm so sad I can't post logs from the card I'm making. Gemini 3 flash is killing it, even it is still has some LLM-isms.
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Anons, I’ve always found it curious how, in most threads on /chag/, the few times some anons have mentioned roleplaying as a human woman in Equestria, it’s always seen as weird. I’ve never understood it; when I do it, it means I can do a ton of lewd stuff with even more range of action in very specific scenarios.
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This is why flash is better than pro it seems, they didn't have time to do RL training on pro yet

https://x.com/ankesh_anand/status/2002017859443233017

"how can flash beat pro??" -> the answer is RL!

flash is not just a distilled pro. we've had lots of exciting research progress on agentic RL which made its way into flash but was too late for pro.

can't wait to finally bring them to pro
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>>42887564
This is the
>I-I'd rather look at a female butt haha...
cope of AI chatting, isn't it?
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>>42887681
I mean it makes a certain sense, but if I use a female as a persona I nearly always make her a futa.
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>>42887685
Then why not just be a guy if you're gonna have a dick anyway wtf
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>>42887690
I mainly play males myself, but sometimes it's needed for the specific scenario
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>>42887696
>sometimes it's needed for the specific scenario
like getting fucked by soarin I guess. Just admit your gay anon
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>>42887701
Why would a futa be needed for soarin? And I'm bi
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>>42887681
it's the obvious bait of /chag/
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>>42887681
That’s not it here, anon; you don’t get it—this has its charm. I really like male characters, especially Sombra, and for a more immersive slow-burn romance, I feel like a girl is better for it. Don’t even think I’m a yuritard.
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>>42887685
I’ve never understood why futa is so popular; is it a way to admit you like penis without feeling so gay? I think even watching gay stuff is less weird than watching futa.
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>>42887734
futa is a bisexual fetish as it combined female and male sexual characteristics
anyone insisting that they're straight while into futa is in the closet though
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For roleplaying as a female in general: It's just a different character to play at the end of the day. Another way to approach various scenarios and how who you're playing as would react.
Also, would it really be that strange to take on the role of an established character like the M6? Especially in a chat with another member.
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>>42887111
There isn't even a claudepony in that picture
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>>42887757
Fem POV is incredibly based.
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I have ordered the top botmakers to construct me a palace of fempov and so it will be done
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Welcome to offboarders hours. They're not even trying to be subtle
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>>42887734
Agree, it just feels like gay-lite. Even worse so because you're basically admitting you want to get dicked down by a woman. Gross and no masculinity.
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>>42887734
>is it a way to admit you like penis without feeling so gay?
If you watch straight porn, you're gay because you're looking at a guy. Lesbian porn is bad because it's just boring. Vaginas and hands don't ejaculate nor get hard, the climax is all internal. That's why you're gay if you watch that too. Futa combines the best of the worlds. It gives you a femaly body, with a sexual organ that actually does stuff.
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>>42887821
and here I though the ancient is liking dicks gay argument was classic mlp
bet these fags don't even want to bend sombra over
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I want to do a good job for my secret santa and their request involves additional knowledge I'm trying to learn about
Is anyone experienced using AI for research and have advice
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>>42887870
>AI for research and have advice
ngmi
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>>42887870
If that's a field you don't know about at all, I would only ask it for references you can check since you can't verify what is hallucination or not.
Unless that's something quite basic, but even here, I would check back.
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>>42887870
depends on the kind of research
a crossover setting
some autistic technical details where they want highly detailed anatomically correct mare pussy, or what?
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>>42886879
I felt like there was a distinct lack of griffon-centric locations, so I decided to rectify that.
I present to you, Griffonstone.
Griffonstone North
Griffonstone South
Griffonstone House

https://u.pone.rs/tqyapxbh.zip
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Requesting your Opus 4.5 presets please, I;m tired of Momura
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I use the same custom preset for everything, I'm convinced everyone asking for separate presets per-model is part of the ultra-hobbyist swarm that doesn't even know how to run ST and things prompts are magic
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>>42888010
I mainly use small prefills with sometimes just {{lastMessage}} in it if I gave what I believe is a good output, since it allows the AI to continue from it in a more natural and better flowing way.
Sometimes I give just a word or a sentence too and that's enough for the model to go in totally different directions for swipes and such.
You can try going with a totally blank preset too and just slowly fill it with instructions on what you like or not depending on what outputs the model gives you.

For premade presets, I didn't test them, but here are some I saw posted. You can try them and see:
https://files.catbox.moe/7le5od.json
https://files.catbox.moe/46v5nn.json
https://files.catbox.moe/r05aqe.json
Never tried it, but maybe PrinterJB could be good with Opus: https://patter.neocities.org/dl/printerjb.json
http://files.catbox.moe/uuzjg4.json
CYOA if you want to change things:
https://rentry.org/CharacterProvider-CYOARPG
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>>42888083
I don't even use presets, i just use a couple lines of custom instructions like "everything happens in the world of equestria, always use equine anatomy", etc. Is there any advantage to using presets if the model is already uncensored?
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>>42888112
opus can be made a good deal filthier / far less positive biased
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>>42888112
presets are more useful for weaker models, and can reduce slop and certain bad writing cliches by up to 50% if you write them properly and place the prompts correctly
it can make LLMs reach 70% base Sonnet quality for much cheaper
using them on anthropic models is just an extra thing on top
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Hey anons, I’ve been following /Chag/ for a while and hadn’t gotten around to using any of this stuff because I’ve always belive AI is pure crap, but seeing how happy you guys are talking to the mares, I’d like to know: which is better, VN or Silly Tavern? i want to try ngl.
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>>42888130
thats not really the right question to ask? hard to explain if you don't know what everything here is all about. start with sillytavern to learn how llms work and go from there
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https://www.instagram.com/p/DSZwSygjpvD/
Thoughts?
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>>42888149
that's not how tokens work
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>>42888115
Someone in a recent previous thread posted a jailbreak they said made claude into an absolute savage but I can't find it
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>>42888130
VN is easier to set up if you just want to give this a quick try. You just need to find a source of models. Free Gemini is a good starting point but they've limited it a bit these days for the free quota, even if you can make many, many keys with a single account. Do you know what you will use?
Then if you like it, you can switch to Tavern and learn more about things like presets and more advanced settings.
There an anchor with guides if you want to look too >>42886880
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>>42888130
I recommend starting with Silly Tavern. It has better support and allows easier experimentation with different models and setups.
The VN is good, but it is still quite unstable and rough around the edges, and having prior experience with LLMs is very helpful for troubleshooting when things go wrong.

So, start off with Silly Tavern to get a good grasp of what AI roleplaying entails, then once you get more comfortable with all the technical stuff you can decide whether to move to the VN or not.

The VN provides a more interactive and immersive experience, but the ST Character Cards provide more variety with scenarios and characters outside of the more vanilla FiM locations and ponies the VN focuses on, so it is not like one is inherently better than the other.
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>>42888155
It's from a prestigious paper, take it up with them
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>>42888210
I don't need to take it up with anyone, people saying things doesn't change how things work
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>>42888219
Nta but you're retarded that image says nothing incorrect about tokens
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you don't love your mare if you don't swipe at least this much
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>>42888219
If you don't understand the concept of abstraction you should never speak again.
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>>42888339
This desperate
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>>42888339
lol I have certain scenes like this, one is above a thousand, seeing all the possible ways it could go with small changes
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>>42888356
ST lags so much when you create a branch when you have this many swipes though, because of the retarded way it saves chats
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I thought it was cute.
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>>42888097
how does last message work with normal chat history?
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>>42888367
So she made herself small with magic or like she just lowered herself to be closer to the ground
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>>42887948
I'll be damned if I ever step foot in Gr*ffonstone, but thanks for sharing.
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>>42887948
now we need grampa gruff and those sexy female griffons
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>>42888438
Wow every time they show a photo in this damn show they reuse the animation from the intro
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>>42888441
small indie animation studio, please understand
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>>42888428
Clearly the second, with the model wanting to keep the earlier "small" motif going.
>>42888413
{{lastMessage}} is just replaced by the last user or character message in your chat history. In this case, it's simply using the exact message the user just sent in the prefill.
I could see this having several effects: it might stop the model from paraphrasing what you just did (if you're using a model that has problems with that), and it might also push the model to write more in your own style, though I'm not sure. Since it's directly continuing from your last line, it could also produce more direct, immediate outputs.
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>>42888456
that corn is my dick
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>>42888462
ouch
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requesting for VN
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>>42888466
Celestia blessed it to be unbreakable, to help with interspecies friendship
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>>42888166
>Blueballed on the speech
Damnit. Unless you're writing it yourself?
Nice log.
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>>42887601
What is RL and why should I care
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>>42888506
reinforcement learning. So first a model is just trained on raw data, and then it is trained by rewarding it for good responses and not for bad responses to train it further
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>>42888508
So Flash3 is really just Cai2
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>>42888539
what the fuck does that mean and why are you speaking about intra-model comparisons if you have no idea what RL even is
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>>42888576
how can you not have watched season 1
I wasted like 4 seasons on TV before I even bothered looking up anything MLP related online years ago
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>>42888544
newfag
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>>42888593
Retard, he clearly knew what cai2 was, the comparison just did not make sense in that context. Because you are a retard.
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>>42888576
To the two anons, go and watch the fucking show. It's on YT for free even. Engaging with a simulacra without seeing the original is plain stupid.
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>>42888598
calm down newfag
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>>42888600
Are you saying Estrus Simulator isnt canonical
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>>42888612
that's season 2
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>>42888576
I only watched up to the end of season 2 over a decade ago. I try my best to make whatever model I'm using not mention anything that comes after that.
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>>42888615
cringe on both cases
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>>42888619
Enjoy your wingslop if you want, not all of us are honor bound to put up with it.
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>>42888621
Cucking yourself out of more pony over wing autism is going full retard
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>>42888621
S1E1 is the last good episode
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I just ignore the rushed last few episodes that made Twilight into that abomination / made sure she would die long after the mane six and then shipping RD / AJ even though their whole thing was older / younger sister for the rest of the show. the rest I'm fine with.
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>>42888624
there's some good episodes in the later seasons but there's absolutely a tipping point where the bad outweighs the good and watching the show becomes more unpleasant from seeing the writers butcher the characters than pleasant from seeing the moments where they're still the characters you fell in love with. Where that point is is going to vary person to person, but I can't really judge someone for deciding they found their point and just sticking with the stuff they know they like.
That said, yeah S1 is 100% mandatory and S2 is like, 99.5% mandatory.
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>>42888635
rate all seasons in mandatory percentage
also when the fuck will someone make an episode lorebook so I don't have to do it manually
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>>42888659
Use case for episode lorebook?
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they are so obvious it's painful
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>>42888576
im just now finding out it meant "season" instead of "episode"
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>>42888659
>when the fuck will someone make an episode lorebook so I don't have to do it manually
I could be autistic and greatly exceed the mandata for my santa assignment to do this
what would be useful to capture from an episode. just the transcript or what, what would be the context?
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>>42888675
Are 'they' in the room with us right now?
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>>42888684
I mean I personally want a general plot summary so the model can direct events through the major beats
like if you just keep pressing enter, the model should be able to go through the entire episode's plot beats using the summary
the main thing is to avoid wasting too many tokens on useless parts of the episode that might not even be possible of you're doing a custom RP and things are different
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>>42888624
>what is quality vs quantity
More isn't always better. Hell, I'd argue that it isn't more often than it is.
I stopped watching right around the time episodes started appearing on streaming services before airing on TV (around season 6 I think? streams with /mlp/ was half the fun at that point), and from what I've heard about the show since, it was a good decision. I feel sorry for people who watched the entire show all the way to the end and consider it all canon, imagine having to see your waifu become a dyke or get fucked by weird al.
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>>42888714
doesn't g5 also kill the whole mane 6? that said, if pinkie was my waifu i'd have been inflicted with permanent psychic damage with who she ends up with
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>>42888714
canon is irrelevant, I don't get why people are so obsessed with it
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>>42888635
I remember having so many friends when the show first came out. Now everyone moved on and here I am on an anon message board chatting with bots.....
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>>42888659
>rate all seasons in mandatory percentage
Basically just consider if you heard someone say "Yeah I liked the show a lot back in the day but I stopped watching around season X" how much of you is thinking "Yeah that's reasonable" vs "Dude you barely even watched the show"
>I stopped after season 1, didn't even try S2
clearly nonsense, doesn't even like pony
>stopped watching after season 2
Pretty weird, S3 was mostly still solid, but there was a definite change in vibes after A Canterlot Wedding, a pessimist or someone very particular
>Stopped watching after Twilight got wings
Yeah I kinda get it, maybe a little premature to not even see if they handled it well they didn't really but still but I bet a lot of people stopped here, "I like FiM but Princess Twilight Sparkle was the end of the show for me" is a potentially reasonable sentence, etc etc onwards getting more and more understandable as the writing gets worse and prospects for improvement dwindle.
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>>42888736
No nony, time killed them.
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>>42888691
>I personally want a general plot summary
i'll see about a script that can extract the summary / transcript from mlp.fandom into two different lorebooks if that helps
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"Thank you. For... for X. For Y.
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>>42888210
>>42888149
>prestigious
More like curious. They measured some counterintuitive stuff on their specific version of RULER which is a NIAH variant, that's the novel part. Their explanation is garbage, and they don't really insist on it if you read the actual paper instead of influencers interpreting it wrong and making sweeping generalizations like "speaks AI better" from one niche task.
For example Russian has terrible token efficiency in every model except Gemini, but still measured second on their benchmark. Token efficiency is only indirectly related to performance, and only in some narrow cases. It can hurt others, if anything.
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>>42889012
The paper in question, read it yourself: https://arxiv.org/abs/2503.01996
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>>42888886
Add it to the running list of claudeisms we're building for token biasing. Also you were 2 off from sextuples.
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I wish I joined the secret santa fuck my stupid pony life
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>>42889099
>I wish I joined the secret santa
request publicly instead, you might get lucky?
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>>42889103
Its really embarrassing
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>>42889105
>Its really embarrassing
who cares? we're all anon. your santa assignment would have had to read your weird fetish anyway
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guys, i did some side-by-side testing with pus6 and lmarena. Both "Sonnet 4.5" and "Opus 4.5" on pus6 are literally identical to the Haiku 4.5 outputs on lmarena. Also, gemini 3pro there feels like 3flash
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>>42889110
From someone who used claude sub + opus I can say you are full of shit. Opus 4.5 on it is opus, test its knowledge for instance, sonnet is far more deterministic and knows less, still far better than haiku
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>>42889108
There's a difference between forcing an overqualified botmaker to make a fetish card in private compared against outing yourself for 40 people to see
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>>42889115
I mean... most of those cards will be posted publicly, eventually.
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>>42889115
>outing yourself
Like Anon said: We're all Anon. Do you think your request is going to be so embarrassing that it'll be talked about for theads to come? There's been ballbusting, striped, anthro foalcon, hyper Celestia, etc. We don't bring those up all the time.
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>>42889150
^this
even the things we do mock, it's all in good fun
Anonistrator gets teased about slop cards being frequently incorrectly put under their name, but they're overall highly respected for their work
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>>42886902
Voting on the poll has closed, the IP counter for this thread is 46. Surprisingly more active than I figured.
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>>42889150
What is hyper Celestia? It makes it sound like there's a fetish for a version of Celestia that has ADHD, kek.
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>>42889197
Yeah I can't find anything on this at all
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>>42889197
I should have really said hyper proportions. There was an anthro one imported from chub that was quite unlike anything I'd seen before. It's listed as Celly in the external sources tab
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that twilight with a voice in her head card evolved into twilight has an eldritch abomination in her head
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Do we have a Stellar Milf card?
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>>42889398
Very old one:
https://mlpchag.neocities.org/view?card=ntsdude/Stellar%20Flare.png
Might still be alright for a quick coom session.
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>>42889110
>Also, gemini 3pro there feels like 3flash
you are fucking retarded. 3pro existed on silly before 3flash was even released
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just realized I can just write a regex to delete all the 'smells like ozone and [whatever]' parts without bothering with instruction or logit and it will always work
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Can someone ask the opus 4.5 on silly what its knowledge cutoff date is, and compare it with opus 4.5 elsewhere?
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>>42889495
Already done
https://desuarchive.org/mlp/thread/42856283/#42856914
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>>42889495
you do know that "asking" a model is not a valid way of querying anything about itself?
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>>42889499
The knowledge cutoff does, since all Claude models will have a default answer they will not deviate from with an empty preset, no matter how many times you swipe. Only Opus 4.5 will say early 2025 when all other models will say 2024 for instance.
The whole "asking the model doesn't help" came from the fact that models will often hallucinate what model they are, since their own release isn't in their knowledge data, unless asked on the official interface since they can have instructions from that.

For Opus6, not long ago there was also a global Anthropic incident affecting Sonnet 4.5 and Opus 4.5, and both were also out on the proxy during that time.
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>>42889498
>>42889499
>opus4.5 on silly and haiku 4.5 on lmarena:"My knowledge cutoff date is April 2024."
>opus 4.5 on lmarena:"My knowledge cutoff date is early 2025."
sadly this is what happens to me :(
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It was all bait from the start, but there you go. Done just now.
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>>42888659
>when the fuck will someone make an episode lorebook so I don't have to do it manually
working on it as part of my santa assignment
and you will be able to toggle per season so you can choose your own cutoff point
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>>42888503
>Blueballed on the speech
I stopped before seeing what the model would come up with, but here it is.
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>>42889551
Nice.
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So is claude still king or is the new gemini/gpt any better? I'm getting really tired of having to summarize every 25k token, and characters keep getting mixed up in group scenarios. Also what is this new captcha
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>>42889764
I've been switching between Opus 4.5 and Gemini 3 Pro with some pretty good results.
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>>42889764
>So is claude still king or is the new gemini/gpt any better?
I would still place Opus 4.5 at the top right now, but I can understand anons preferring Gemini 3 or even GPT for SFW. But not GPT 5.2, It's shit IMO.
>I'm getting really tired of having to summarize every 25k token
We are still at this point, but I can usually push to >40K with 4.5.
>Also what is this new captcha
I quite like it.
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>>42889197
>a version of Celestia that has ADHD
This sounds like it might be a pretty funny card. Sped Celestia could have lots of good moments.



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