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>screechy, loud, nails on a chalkboard voice
>creates more problems and issues than she helps out with
>doesn’t have a real job and is the laziest in both her hometown and current one
>has no redeeming qualities whatsoever
>an ego the size of the Atlantic Ocean
>canonically the least intelligent among her friend circles

After defeating NMM the other Mane 5 should have just kicked her out. You would have to be braindead to allow this blue abomination near any populated area.
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lots of Dash hate lately
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>>42897589
objectively true. she's a damn hoodlum
Pinkie and Dash are the worst written ponies out of the six. Pinkie especially got flanderized bad in later seasons
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>>42897597
deserved
>>42897604
don't compare my pink queen to the retarded blue cunt
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>>42897597
She's a very hateable pony.
>>42897604
Eh, Pinkie isn't the best but personally I'd say Fluttershy is the next worst. She was regressing as a character since season 2. For all the talk of Rainbow or Pinkie being flanderized, Fluttershy is the one who started getting hit with it the earliest.
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>>42897597
Every mare has been getting hate because we are under constant demoralization campaigns.
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>>42897609
Pinkie's entire personality from the moment we meet her character is parties and lolrandom humor that has aged poorly. Also nobody really acts like that in real life. She's just poorly written, accept that your waifu a shit and move on
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>>42897589
>>42897597
Dash is endorsed by VogelGod and Lauren Faust. Keep that in mind when you trash God's favourite pony, low IQers.
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>>42897629
NTA, but in my defense it's hard for me to hate Pinkie PIe not because I waifu her, but because I went into the show with her as my least favorite and thinking she was terrible. So she literally only had up to go while several other characters went down in my rankings. Though Twilight telling Pinkie she's so random is so on the nose of early 2010's internet culture that it makes me cringe worse than anything else in the show. That line did NOT age well, absolute product of it's time.
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>>42897597
nothing makes the mediocre madder than excellence
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>>42897656
>Excellence meaning being born flying fast and never having to work for anything in her whole life
Literally a one trick pony.
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>>42897618
^this
It seems like everyone is complaining about every member of the mane 6.
They all have flaws sure but is that going to be all we ever talk about with them since the later seasons?

Rainbow is an idot, this is true but she is still pretty cool tho.

What member of the 6 do you like better and why?
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>>42897597
Lots of Trixie hate too these past months, hope to see more of it.
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>>42897699
No mare deserves to be hated, not even Trixie.
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>>42897698
>What member of the 6 do you like better and why?
Any of them because they all have more pleasant personalities than her.
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Hahahaha i love hating mares!
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>be OP
>be a cocksucking, mare-hating, homo faggot
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>>42897589
There are no bad ponies. Everypony is special.
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Rainbow Dash is retarded, but she's also funny and hot, so she gets away with it
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>>42897618
They switched their waifu in the later seasons. And that's why background mares are the hotness for the past so many years.
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>>42897682
exactly. she doesn't have to work for anything, yet she still does, and saves her friends, ponyville, and all of equestria many times while raising an anbandoned filly on the side. the more I think about it the more I'm impressed by her selflessness and heart of gold
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>>42897773
AJ your butt is in the frame
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>>42897779
That's different from the recent batch.
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>>42897589
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>>42897589
Are you talking about Rainbow Dash or a janny?
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>>42897640
>Twilight telling Pinkie she's so random
I'm pretty sure Dash also called her random in Griffon and Brush Off
>That line did NOT age well, absolute product of it's time.
fucking this, probably the only element of S1-3 that aged like mare milk
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>>42897589
>cute, scratchy voice
>gives everyone the abilities they need to help out with the issues she can't do
>laid back, chill, but very obviously capable at her job
>very cute
>confident
>pleasantly airheaded
Sorry Anon, I just don't think you're man enough for Dashie
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>>42897698
>What member of the 6 do you like better and why?
AJ because she's a responsible adult that gets shit done
Twilight because curious bookhorse is rather charming
Rainbow, despite everything OP posted ITT, is a kind of friend any sane man would want in their life
also her relationship with Scootaloo always makes me smile
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>>42897777
quads of truth
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>>42897589
There is an entire story about her told in bits an pieces in the show.

>only kid syndrome, parents lavishing her with unconditional, unwarranted praise and support
>kid whiz at flying, wins lots of awards but it never goes anywhere, refuses to practice or improve or even compete after a while, still thinks she is the hottest shit ever
>she gets given a huge house from their money to move out and stop being a mooch after a while, her dad uses his weather industry connections to land her a job in a bumfuck town
>she is perfectly okay with her dead end job, does not improve, does not intend to have a career ever, she is just loafing around being an unpopular cunt with her "pranks" and dreams about being a star athlete
>by pure chance, the stars align and she lands up in the friend circle of Celestia's protegé
>after several seasons of dreaming about it, she is finally pushed and prodded by her friends to join the wonderbolts
>proves way harder than she expected, would have absolutely crashed and burned without her friends, couldn't even have taken the entrance exam
>has nothing else really in her life, even her wonderbolt career did not bring her the prestige and popularity she expected, remains a random everypony
>every single one of her friends has things going places, Fluttershy gets her dream animal complex going and gets a chaos god as her personal simp, Ponk marries weird Al and has foals, Rarity becomes a big boss fashion investor, Appul still has her farm and family thing ongoing, Twilight of course, draws the ace.
>meanwhile. RD just runs through an uneventful life of being an athlete, never really achieving anything after, her life reached its apex at her early twenties, the definition of peaking early
>just yet another burnt out pro sports wreckage with nothing really to show, not a bottom feeder neet loser, but everypony around her knows that she could have achieved much more, if she just applied herself a bit more, all the while aware that she barely dodged a lifetime of a dead end job wagie
>once her flying career is over, she likely becames a peewee coach or something to pay the bills and reminisce over her flying trophies, how she "used to be someone"
>took ten miles of dick, never settled, always felt that her dream colt who is just a little bit better is just around the corner, until the offers for dates stopped coming and realized all the colts she had rejected are married now with foals, in fact, all her old teammates are married now
>her parents are dead, her friend group living apart now, busy with their own lives and families
>most likely drinks cider all day and pesters foals if "hey, still remember me? bestest flyer in all of Equestria?!"
>randomly reminisces about random races she won and random villains the M6 fought and brings them up to the mailpony
>still expects to get fanmail, despite not getting any in years
>wishes she could be young again and have another shot, feels herself still young at heart
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>>42898174
>Fallen-Star Dash
Someone.
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>>42898174
brutal
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>>42898174
You're going to need to delete this.
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>>42897777
Funny hot and awesome retard
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>>42898174
that's some 10/10 seething headcanon around one kernel of truth
>would have absolutely crashed and burned without her friends
which is true for all of them. and her and AJ are the only ones with their heads screwed on straight enough to realistically have something resembling a normal life if they had failed
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>>42898174
uncomfortably realistic, many sportsfags have this exact arc
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>>42897698
Non mane 6 are getting hate too. I have seen people shitting on mares like Redheart.
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>>42898174
>everypony around her knows that she could have achieved much more, if she just applied herself a bit more, all the while aware that she barely dodged a lifetime of a dead end job wagie
Such as?
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>>42898355
wow almost like there's a campaign of shitstirrers who just want to break apart every community on 4chan, huh
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>>42898389
Such as what shown in the actual show, right in the first episode even.
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You didn't just touch a nerve, bro, you put a live wire to that shit
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>>42898427
dyewts?
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>>42898484
Did you? Literally the first moment she is introduced is as a lazy wagie in a low-prestige job.
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>>42898555
a "no" would have been enough. she's using the downtime that being good at her job gives her to practice more for the wonderbolts.
>low-prestige
she owns a pretty sweet mansion at her age already, I doubt it's that bad
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>>42898427
I meant to ask what career she could have gotten that would be better than a pro athlete, not what kind of wagie job she dodged
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>>42897777
>Holy quads of truth
An athletic bimbo then?
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>>42897589
This but Pinkie. Fuck that pink retard
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>>42897777
"hot" and it's the ugliest character ever
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>>42898641
Homosexual
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>>42897704
I understand why people hate on trixie, but i lover her anyway, she's such a smug asshole.

>>42897705
What do you like about Rarity then?

>>42898122
Aj is based, she's a mature farm pony with little time for bullshittery
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>>42898614
You are coping and you know it. She is not practicing, she is lazy, that is the CORE of her character, if you missed that, you are arguing headcanons.
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>>42898174
What else was there for her beyond wonderbolt though? foals? guard? a double rainboom?
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>>42897704
Narcissists like her deserve nothing but hate, she's hateful to everyone around her, she deserves the same.
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>>42897704
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>>42898655
>she's such a smug asshole.
This is why I love Trixie too, it's hard to take her seriously when she's so easy to laugh at and laugh with
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@42897639
All romanians have low iq, no exceptions
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>>42898666
That is the point What else would be there? What goals she would set for herself? The others all set several goals for themselves and new ones naturally kept coming up for them. RD plateued with what we saw on the show. Got into the Wonderbolts and? What's then? Just lazing around and pranking? What's next for her? She has no idea because at her core she is a juvenile fratboy who plateaued early. The rest will keep going on and maturing. but Rainbow will be left behind as that obnoxious friend you hanged around with as a young adult but did not change at all and its sorta annoying now. You think when an older AJ and Ponk are meeting to talk about their foals or Rarity attends a royal soirée with Twilight, there would be any place in those discussions for RD? Sure, they would try to humor her, try to include her in the dialogue, but in there end, she would be just left behind as she has nothing to add. She would have no reason to hang around with her old friends anymore, as they grew apart too much.
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>>42898656
so you're saying rainbow is lying in the very first episode without ever getting called out? and later episodes that actually show her practicing are... what? a diversion?
I recommend you read less bad fanfiction and actually watch the show. the first seasons are really quite enjoyable.
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>>42898703
Another factor that I think feeds into what you're talking about is that her passion is just too far removed from the other mane 6. It's just so specific to pegasi that none of the others can really even interact with that part of her life. Notice how most Wonderbolts episodes usually sideline the other rm6 in favor of a slew of secondary characters that she can actually have meaningful interaction with. Rarity episodes still manage to have a lot of involvement from the m6 even though they're very career focused too, but RD episodes reduce everyone else to such minor appearances because there's so little for them to actually do.
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>>42898717
>you're saying rainbow is lying in the very first episode without ever getting called out?
Kek, Rainbow doe stuff without getting called out all the time.
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>>42898723
>It's just so specific to pegasi that none of the others can really even interact with that part of her life.
Peganonstallion chads keep winning
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>>42898728
did she or did she not lie to Twilight?
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>>42898672
>world's most petty, hateful, and nothingburger character
>only exists to harass and make other people miserable
>nobody can tolerate her, not even the princess of friendship
>throws a fit and threatens suicide when she doesn't get her way
what a bad character
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>>42898768
>only exists to harass and make other people miserable
>throws a fit and threatens suicide when she doesn't get her way
You chose the wrong pic
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>>42897699
It's one guy and he's incredibly dedicated. It's the funniest shit. I really can't imagine the mindset it takes to get this upset about a cuntmare. You'd think she's real and she personally screwed him over.
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>>42898768
>bad character
No think about it she's great BECAUSE she's bad, there are just people out there that are just like Trixie and she represents them perfectly
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>>42898776
trixiefags trying to act smug like their character isn't canonically a suicidal loser
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I want to hear dashie's muffled teasing as she sits on my face
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>>42898793
>"one guy"
Jesus Christ you guys are just as insecure as Dashfags, obviously not everyone is going to like the character who was purposely made to be unlikable.
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>>42898717
Are you autistic or just never watched the show and projecting? The M6 keep shitting on RD how she never actually practiced for the tryouts or even bothered to learn anything about the Wonderbolts before. Her entire characterization is being lazy, thinking just talent is enough.
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>Yet another thread is turned into a Trixie/anti-Trixie circlejerk.
Grim.
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>>42898723
I could see why a slightly different character with different interests could be part of a friends group, as long they share something to bind them together, some mutual goal, shared experiences, etc. its a very interesting mechanic as characters learn about each other and grow together from their interactions. I'm pretty sure this would have been the original incarnation of the show when it was more magical girl-y episodic adventure and Nightmare Moon was supposed to be the finale of the first season, not the start.

But as you said, it just gets even more pronounced as those other ponies start growing into their careers and interests and professional relationships, gathering groups of secondary characters around them, interacting with each other and the other M6. Rarity grows her business, meets all the fashion ponies, they travel to Manehattan etc. But what Dash gets? Fucking nothing the Wonderbolts remain "The Wonderbolts" a self-contained set of secondary characters, they never really become Dash's friends and coworkers who we see her hanging out and interacting with, once she gets in there are no goals left she is working towards, no relationships as becoming a Wonderbolt was her thing, she reached it and plateaued, her character arc was done. Its extremely jarring, as she is supposed to be the most active, hotheaded, adventurous, opinionated pony of them all. She barely even interacts with her friends in those episodes, but that interactions are so crucial to her succeeded, that she would have obviously not made it as a WB without them, leaving an entire separate second bad flavor.


To be honest. this is the kind of thing that without insult I say, most zoomies and neets just wouldnt get it, as they lack the reference pool for it. But once you are an unc and has been for a while, you will start noticing people and patterns a bit complex than a binary failure/not failure groups. RD not getting any further adult goals after her initial one is completed and at such a young age, implied to be in her early twenties if not younger is comes off as very off. Especially in pro sports, where overall career durations can be as short as a decade or even just a few years. The writing of the show is not very good, especially the later seasons(shocking, I know) but this just really sticks out.
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>>42898806
>I didn't actually mean the first episode but the 86th
it's okay, I sometimes get episodes mixed up, too
>The M6 keep shitting on RD how she never actually practiced for the tryouts
never happened
>or even bothered to learn anything about the Wonderbolts before
that did happen and it goes to show that nobody is perfect, but with the help of her friends she made do. kind of like 90% of the m6 character episodes and I'm not sure why a lack of interest in history makes her a bad pony
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>>42898850
>obsessed with 1(one) thing
>barely knows anything about it

You have to be an absolute basement dwelling autismo to not see why this is so strange. Its like, someone dreaming for years to join the airforce and be a pilot, but doesn't know anything about planes or their history or how do they operate. It immediately reveals an immature, insincere, unserious, uncommitted personality,.

Also, denying obvious elements of the show is not going to make them go away.
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>>42898806
>Her entire characterization is being lazy, thinking just talent is enough.
The worst part is that since she's a main character, the writers decided that talent ultimately was enough for her. Only she can do a sonic rainboom, not because of practice but because destiny says so, and so she's already better than everypony else even as a child. Even her impatience isn't a problem, because Twilight goes and finds a way to spoonfeed the information she needs to pass a test to her in a way that doesn't require her to learn to slow down do something other than fly fast for once. She's built entirely on talent and nothing else.
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>>42898864
Oh yeah, that was fucking gay. There was a GOLDEN moment for an "educational" moment, that sometimes you just have to put your ass down and study, as some knowledge cannot be skipped, but once you "get" it, it gets more and more fun. Would have been an excellent life lesson too.

Should have taken a page or two from shonen anime and training too, would have loved to see an RD who pisses into water about pretty much everything but takes her practice dead seriously and we could see her growth over the series, until she is ready to qualify. In the show, she could have just applied S1E2, cause no significant changes or growth happens, she remains the exact same character with the exact same talents and skillset.
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>>42898864
Always wondered why no one else in Equestria ever gave a shit about sonic rainbooms or why and how a literal child prodigy is the fastest pony alive.

>>42898870
Might as well just went full sports anime, and make her like sports too. maybe make her part of the Ponyville airball team or something and be just as dedicated to see them win, as her B plot.
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>>42898859
it's quite common in the real world and especially in professional sports where you must actually do the one thing you're obsessed with instead of just nerding out about it. it's not a virtue but neither is it a flaw
>It immediately reveals an immature, insincere, unserious, uncommitted personality
projection or just retardation, it can be so hard to tell... and making up shit that never happened is not going to make it happen
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>>42898875
>In the show, she could have just applied S1E2, cause no significant changes or growth happens, she remains the exact same character with the exact same talents and skillset.
I remember this was the exact same complaint Greg had years ago about her arc and how there was ultimately no substance to it and it could have been finished in season 1 because there ultimately was no great change or growth she had to undergo. Back then people were alot more dismissive of his point, but it seems like anons have come around more to what he was saying since the show ended. Back then I don't think you could not like Testing without everyone jumping down your throat about how amazing an episode it was, but now it seems people are a fair bit more critical about how much of a wet fart it ended up making RD's development.
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>>42898174
Sounds like one of those super depressing fics i used to read in the early days of the fandom, good green bro, even if its sad.

>>42898311
Also true, they are all deeply flawed and need friendship to help them through it.
>Like it's the premise of the show or something

>>42898656
We do see her practise in the early and later seasons, it's just outside of doing what she wants to do she has no investment and literally sleeps.
I've met many such people like this that only do their favourite thing and nothing else.

>>42898671
But i like the narcissism >>42898672
Gets it
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>>42897597
Yeah totally not samefaggotry
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The problem with Dash's "practice" is that the extant of her training is just flying around. That's it, that's all she does. But since she's already the best at flying and has been since she was a child, that doesn't really improve anything. All of her practice ultimately amounts to her doing something she's already good at and never really pressing beyond that. She's already the best and all the "practice" she does is really just a leisure activity that she does for fun, not to actually grow her abilities.
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>>42898896
Funniest shit is how Lightning Dust had more of a growth mentality, constantly pushing herself.
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>>42898676
The most important part here imo is
>...her greatest obstacle is a complete and total lack of discipline
It's not worth arguing over. It's a foundational element of her character that she lacks discipline. On the other hoof, aside from her prankster nature (which was apparently completely forgotten after s2 save for nightmare night episodes), the rest of the description is emphasizing, again and again, that she is talented and passionate. She has a lot of energy to do the things she likes, she strives on her own practically every day to push herself above and beyond her limits; but she completely brushes off what she doesn't like to do, if she can get away with it. She gets by on excess of passion and talent, just without any compromise to discipline and external pressure. She is far from lazy, she does what she needs to do, she just finds things that require discipline to be overly difficult and would sooner fly around the world than face disciplinary problems head-on.

She's pretty normal, in that respect. I can name like 5 friends I know personally that are like this (minus talent and/or passion, respectively). They're still fine people, maybe not successful in the career oriented moneybags sense of the word, but great to be around. I think her character is one of the more relatable and it's probably why she has always been so popular. We should bear in mind that Rainbow (being the original main character) was the closest to Faust's heart, not exactly a self-insert but an archetype near and dear to her, probably a type of person she knew in other people or a part of herself.

>>42898896
>>42898900
That's plain bullshit anon, she has stated goals in her practice that are high enough she has to strive for them and still sometimes fails to achieve. Maybe she is already the best at flying, but she wants to get better and continues to push her limits and work at it (in the early seasons where her practice was regularly mentioned...)
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>>42898914
Bro training is discipline. If someone is lacking in discipline, that means they're the type that doesn't like training. If her primary negatives are that she's lazy and lack discipline, then that's the exact combination of attributes that leads to someone not taking things seriously and only coasting by on talent. Just because they made her so unreasonably talented that she succeeds anyway even on just that doesn't make her any less lazy and undisciplined.
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>>42898896
It is maintaining them though, even if someone is naturally athletic you still have to put work in or the Natural talent is wasted.
You don't become Olympic level track and field by just jogging around for fun.

She definitely stuggles to give a shit about anything outside her own interests though.

>>42898768
I am aware, i like that she harasses people and makes them miserable, its funny.
Also being reckless is equal to being suicidal, i would call it a stupid tantrum.

>>42898776
It's definitely more than one guy, but I'd argue she's more liked than hated.
Most characters are more liked than hated... Exept yona maybe.

>>42898807
Its kind of a pro anti pony circle jerk.
People who hate everyone and people who like everyone. It's very autistic.
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>>42898948
>Most characters are more liked than hated... Exept yona maybe.
Why that one specifically? I figured all the student 6 would be equally hated.
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>>42898935
That's a fair but autistic semantic argument that's also controverted by the show. The colloquial usage of the word discipline, in the pitch bible and smattered around this thread, basically refers to capitulation or temperance to external organizational pressure. Rainbow trains and disciplines herself in the show to her physical limit, as I described - and also as I've described, she doesn't capitulate to external pressure, she avoids any situation where she has to. That's what is meant by discipline.

She's shaped entirely by her own interest and passion, which is to her benefit in some ways, but to her detriment in others.
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>>42898952
It's because yaks are subsapient unterponische. There's at least something to like about all the other creatures, no matter how slight, but yaks are unsalvageable.
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>>42898960
Atleast there is a total consensus about everyone hating yaks.
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>>42898900
I would have liked to see more lightening dust and the washouts, they were reckless and retarded but they found a role that suited them as daredevils.
It also makes sense that Scootaloo likes them more than the wonderbolts given she's a crippled Pegasus, i got some crusty demons vibes from that episode.

>>42898948
>Being reckless is not equal to being suicidal
I fucked that up and even put the wrong pic in.
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>>42898955
>>42898881
This is a retarded waifufag. He has no idea what words mean or what criticism is even about.
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>>42898966
I didn't say she was being suicidal, I said she was threatening suicide, Trixie's too narcissistic to ever consider genuinely killing herself, unfortunately.
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>>42898968
You've inadvertently given TWO people the victory over this debate by way of resorting name-calling. Thank you.
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>>42898952
I try not to hate too much and be more on the positive side for mlp as a whole but >>42898960 is completely right.

Their entire culture is built around smashing shit up and pretending they're the best at everything to the point where they know full well that pinkie xame in to solve a massive issue for them in secret just to save their pride and let them keep smashing shit up.

For Celestias sake they let yona smash up the school and various other pony buildings and just go "it's ok yona, thats just your culture".
There's no reason that a powerful developed nation like Equestria should ever put up with violent destructive savages like that.

Yaks put no effort into friendship, they just expect everyone else to tolerate their bullshittery.
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>>42899003
>Yaks put no effort into friendship, they just expect everyone else to tolerate their bullshittery.
Why do you like Trixie but hate Yaks then? They sound right up your alley since she's literally just the pony equivalent to that.
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>>42898174
Damn you beat me to it
Yeah, the problem with Dash is that she's basically someone with nothing going on with her life except her sports career. If she was a male character portrayed with the same traits we would all be hating on him.
>>42898768
A good character doesn't have to be likeable. Trixie is funny precisely because she's such an un-self-aware toxic bitch

This thread is amazing because we really distilled why Dash is the worst written pony.

>>42899011
They wrote Trixie to at least try to understand friendship and become friends with Starlight, yaks are completely unsympathetic. Plus yaks are basically an entire species of retards and an unnecessary addition for the Friendship School toy set I mean arc
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>>42898883
True. With the reckless waifufaggotry dying down, people, even the ones who like her are more open to more nuanced discussion about her flaws and how her entire concept was mishandled by writers.

>>42898885
It is super depressed because of the realism seeping in. This is a very common fate of professional athletes, especially in sports with high burnout rates. Like in football(not be be confused with handegg) you basically have to make it by you are 17 and your career will peak in your early 20s. You'd have to be one wild talent to keep playing on the same level until you are 30 and by 35 you are 100% guaranteed to retire. And this is assuming you don't get injuries, or just an unlucky break with a bad team crimping your career. This could absolutely happen to Dash and she would have no way to cope, because being the fastest is so natural to her, so much the core of her identity that she pretty much has nothing if she ages out of the bracket
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>>42898975
>Throwing a reckless tantrum is not the same as threatening suicide
However you want to word it, i understand the criticism and how that can contribute to turning someone off the character.
I think people have looked way more deeply into that scene that the writer's ever would (same with everything really) and it doesn't really detract from the character for me.

I like trixie, even some of her faults make me smile.

I like RD too, she's but she's not my favourite of the mane 6.
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>>42899034
Isn't this pretty much exactly how her life ends up being in that G% comic? The magic goes away and all she does is pine for the days when she was a Wonderbolt and great flier? Just going off that, she really did peak early and had nothing else going for her later on when it went away.
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>>42899011
Trixie has redeeming qualities in my completely biased opinion.
She has ponies she cares about enough to put effort into changing for (even if she's not good at it) and she understands the value of things, her wagon holds a lot of sentimental value to her.

Yaks are just vandals to not only ponies thinks but their own as well, to the point where it could quite literally kill them off.
They are stupid, violent lumbering retards that will break your shit and expect a thank you.

At least trixie is cute and makes me laugh, the yaks are hunchbacks with shit humour, they're not even funny.
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>>42899011
Because Trixie is funny and sexy
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>>42899055
This is so amazingly retarded. Couldnt write something so stupid on purpose.
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>>42897949
weeeeee
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>>42899055
>G% is not cannon to g4, its an alternate universe at best.

Missing your youth and for glory days is pretty natural to be fair, most people when they're old and past their prime getlike that sometimes.

>>42899034
Yeh the vast majority of people with sporting careers don't really live great lives, especially those in contact sports.

I was always given the impression (although they did a shit job at conveying it) that dash was meant to be one of the rare greats in her sport, like a Shane Warne or a mike Tyson that would be marketable even after she retired.

Not to mention she is an element of harmony and has contributed to saving Equestria multiple times.
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>>42899159
>I was always given the impression (although they did a shit job at conveying it) that dash was meant to be one of the rare greats in her sport, like a Shane Warne or a mike Tyson that would be marketable even after she retired.

Yeah, then SHOW her doing sports, SHOW her being popular, SHOW her enjoying herself being a Wonderbolt and doing things. Because as it is, it turns out to be a wet fart. She just performs with them and that's it. Its even worse if she is really one of those one in a million generational wild talents, coasting on talent only, as it just raises further questions about how and why no one cares if a little filly doing a sonic rainboom is the fastest flyer in all of Equestria.


>Not to mention she is an element of harmony and has contributed to saving Equestria multiple times.

That also ended up meaningless aside from the journal episode. In fact, even Twilight becoming a princess barely ended up mattering, which is just insane.
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>>42899070
I do admire your liking of the character and your understanding of how people like me don't understand how anyone could, more Trixiefags could learn from you.
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>>42897629
how can a fag like you maintain your dogshit opinions after hearing giggle at the ghostie
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>>42899281
Thank you fren, going back to mlp has made me want to be more understanding.

Merry Christmas
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>>42898842
>they never really become Dash's friends and coworkers who we see her hanging out and interacting with
For a show about friendship, this was an elephant in the room. The m6 are so close knit that they never made room for outsiders or their own friend circles, like they stopped bothering after the pilot. Friends they should make go ignored, while friends they do make are hamfisted in.

Treehugger came out of nowhere. Everyone knows Discord should have been tight with Pinkie, but got hamfisted into Fluttershy's ass instead. Starlight managed to not get close to any of the m6 because Twilight treats her like a student. Amending Fences made Twilight's old friend group seem deeper than it was in the pilot, then gets dropped like a pointless high school reunion, and all but one of them are background ponies in Ponyville. Applejack has dozens of cousins but isn't close to a single one in Ponyville. Rarity makes social mingling an art, but doesn't keep anyone like Fancy Pants or Turnip Truck close. Gift Of The Maud Pie forced Maudity. Quibbles second appearance isn't him and RD geeking out, but her accidentally bumping into him so she can help him with his family issues.

TLDR; The m6 don't make friends, but a lot of acquaintances.
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>>42897589
at least dash has a personailty and actually has good eps, rarity, name one epsiode where she isn't doing dressing or her wanting to be famious their is far and few, she's also a terrible sister and sitter.Dash at least tries to be their for scootaloo
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>>42899194
They actually did show her having fans and fan clubs like scootaloos fan club and those 2 foals in rainbow roadtrip.

They also show her taking an interest in sports at the school when she keen to help train the students in buckball.
(Though they fucked that up by having her be an asshole to the chear squad despite her having no problem teaching Fluttershy to chear)

Like i said, there was an intention there it was just very VERY poorly executed.

>In fact, even Twilight becoming a princess barely ended up mattering

This is true, i can excuse it in Ponyville but no one anywhere ever giving a shit about national heros and what's essentially a new born demigod has always shit me to tears.

The only one that gets any of that is spike in the Crystal Empire.
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Speaking of Dashie's arc being poorly handled Twilight has similar problems. We don't ever get to see Twilight training in magic or Celestia training Twilight. Magic is completely secondary to her character, remove it and she'd still be the same exact person, a nerdy book lover. We never even learn of her ambitions or goals in life until nuwriters had to make one up for her. Past her nerd archetype there's really nothing interesting about her.
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>>42900209
You know what yea that is kind of weird. People do usually gloss over that Twilight didn't really have much of a goal for the most part either whenever they complain about Applejack or Pinkie Pie not having one. And her studying magic under Celestia does feel a bit secondary at times, though I suppose that can be justified by the fact that she's already a young adult who's likely completed most of her magic studies by the start of the series, instead putting the focus on making friends. Still, with how much emphasis was given to the prestige Celestia's school, you'd think we would have gotten something going more in depth on exactly what it was like there.
Now that you've mentioned it it really is a shame we don't know what training under Celestia is actually like. I guess that's one of many thinks that would have benefited from having some flashback episodes talking about Twilight's past like we had with Applejack in Where the Apple Lies.
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>>42899468
>ESL hates Rarity
Shocker! Name one episode where blue cunt isn't an annoying aggravating retarded bitch.
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>>42900229
KEK
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>>42900209
That's because as far as career skills go, anything more advanced than the fundamentals in magic kindergarten is a nerd hobby for rich neets, or a busking means for destitute gypsies.
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>>42898174
Brutally realistic, and a fitting end for the pony most concerned only with themselves (I still don't think she deserves it, and she could've been told to shape up and actually listen, but ironically, the fact she is an idiot savant capable of pulling Rainboom feats is the very reason this never happened).
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>>42900246
I want to fuck his mom so bad
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>>42900276
What a mooch, bumming off her friends like that.
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>>42900276
>Didn't actually live at SAA
>Still doesn't consider it her real home
>Still considers flying, doing tricks, and her career to be the most important things in her life, not her supposed spouse or family
Nah. If these two are married it is the most soulless, loveless marriage imaginable where AJ is just a meal ticket to RD, since we already know she doesn't actually help with the chores or anything.
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>>42900305
>DONK
Apples hit her head.
Stupid dashie :D
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>>42900305
>"Maybe I would if you did them the right way."
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>>42900209
Ehh, atleast we see her sending reports to her boss, casting spells and reading all the time. It is also much more believable with her diligent personality that she actually puts the effort in, and not just coasting on talent. A polar opposite of Rainbow Dash in a way.
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>>42900325
Come on, Twilight is the same kind of talent coaster as Dash. She never fails a spell. All of her diligence is her having fun in the same way Rainbow flys laps for fun. Twlight loves homework, she loves giving homework, list-making is her second hobby to reading, and her boss is her butt-buddy penpal mom. Her struggle is a cake walk.
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>>42900365
Completely false and stupid.
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>>42900365
>Twilight is the same kind of talent coaster as Dash
>Meanwhile she gets outmatched in her magical talent by Starlight, Sombra, Discord, Tirek etc. without her friends whereas nopony can outmatch Rainbow Dash in her talent
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>>42900365
Truke. It's easy to be the best when the universe has predisposed you to it and the literal GOD of your world has taken you in as their protege.
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>>42900412
More like, its easy to be the best when you are diligent, conscientious and put the effort in so hard that she literally mindbreaks herself and her teacher has to tell her to take it easy.
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>>42898277
Dash is hot, but this screencap makes me think her workout routine is kill brits 6x a week then neck day.
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>>42900539
Oopsie. I'll go kill myself.
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>>42900412
Twilight never once considered her to be hot shit and always acted with humility about being choses though. She took the whole thing very seriously, not as granted.
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>>42897589
Nice hat, Dashie
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>>42900220
>instead putting the focus on making friends
More like focusing on her current friends.

It's funny and sad to think that one throwaway line like "I want to become a great mage like Starswirl someday, that's why I'm studying hard." could have changed the entire course of the show.

>>42900365
An episode like Testing Testing for Twilight would've done wonders. Twilight struggles to complete a spell for her finals and finds the answer through the help of her friends. MMC but actually good.
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Stupid horse
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Applejack is hotter
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no this is an actual good thread, don't die
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>>42902750
The discussion is done, a consensus has been reached and the topic is exhausted, as all 23 users of /mlp/ said what they had to say on it.



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