I somehow finished Season 7, but this one is just unbearable. I haven't watched new MLP episodes for three weeks now, only occasionally re-watching some episodes from seasons 1-6.I don't want for it to end like this...
>>42938676It only means you have a working brain. S9 is no better.I recommend watching Rainbow Roadtrip and treating that as the final episode.
>>42938676It gets worse too. That's the sad part.On my original viewing, I awaited every episode, from my first ep in 2012 until about half way through s8.... an unbroken chain of don't care more pony... but then it hit me in s8. it was a slog. I actually stopped watching. I would catch up whenever. Someday. Weeks would go by. I would say I'll get to it. Then months. Then i finally decided to come back to pony. To just see it through. The s8 ender was shit. But everyone said oh it'll be ok they'll fix it in s9. Only for s9 to be worse. Ok but surely they'll fix everything up with a proper ending. The last 3 episodes were shit. Worse than anything by far. I was visibly mad. My mother said i was acting like someone died. Days after. I never revealed my power level so i just had to stop suffering in her presence. You may proceed further. Just as I did. But I can tell you... there is no pony from where you are to the end. Just disappointment. And death of hope. I hate Josh Haber with all my heart.
>>42938676Just stop watching. Seriously. Pick an episode and call it the last. Any episode you can recall liking. Because every episode makes it worse from here out. >but muh sounds of silenceNo. Nothing is worth it
>>42938676It's shit because they put a child in hell. That alone makes it bad.
At least late EG are surprisingly good. Forgotten Friendship is literally the strongest piece of MLP media (and was made by McCarthy and frens).
watch g1 instead
>>42939115I think the Powerpuff Girls would be closer to the FiM we all like.
>>42938676Well you made it farther than I did back in the day. I tapped out in the latter half of season 6.I don't blame you or anyone else for stopping.
>>42938676You're only supposed to watch Sounds of Silence and nothing else you dum dum.>>42938689Ur ghei.
>>42938676Is it really that bad? I've considered finishing the series because I didn't find S6 nearly as bad as everyone made it out to be. But season 7 feels like a real slog however, 8 episodes left and I have little to no motivation to continue.
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>>42938682>My mother said i was acting like someone diedThat kind of happened though. Bad episodes from earlier seasons were like signs of dementia in someone close to you, it's the person you love not acting quite right. Season 9 was full on Alzheimers, there's nothing even remotely recognisable about them anymore.
>>42938676The good thing about everything you like being ruined is you learn to compartmentalize. The parts of the show that suck simpley never happened. MLP ended at S5.
>>42939417I've just finished season 5. Does it really go downhill that fast?
>>42938676I watch the later seasons like they're really bad fanworks The introduction of the school is such a mystifying decision. They flanderized the fuck out of all the characters. It's just a complete clusterfuck
>>42940126Season 6 was okay. Season 7 was bad. Season 8 was terrible. Season 9 went back to just being bad.
>>42939997>>42940138Christ, you guys are such autistic flaming faggots along with everyone else in this thread. MLP didn't get dementia; it adapted its formula for an audience that was starting to get a bit older. Season 9 was great, minus a few bad apples. Frenemies is literally the best episode in the whole show. I can agree that season 8 wasn't good, but every other season was fine.And, as >>42939120 said, please just watch the Powerpuff Girls if you like the old charm the first two seasons had. There's more great media out there, especially from Faust.
these creatures had a more interesting chemistry than the G% dogs. A shame they didnt had to much screentime
>>42940530A shame they had as much screentime as they did.
>>42940530If Haber had had his way, they would’ve been the new Mane 6.
>>42939417In my opinion, S8 is the series' low point, and S9 wasn't much better. Both are worse than S7. It's like you're not even watching ponies anymore, just a generic kids show.>>42940126No, not that fast. It's like being the proverbial frog in the pot of water starting to boil. I think S5 was the last good season. S6 was okay but not terrible. S7 was bad, but it still has The Perfect Pear. While S9 doesn't have any outstanding episodes (though I admit to being entertained by Sparkle's Seven) it also doesn't have as many failures as S8. And even S8 has Sounds of Silence.>>42940440Hi Josh!
>>42940609Good because towards the end of the series the Mane 6 were so flanderized it was hard to like them. They couldn't let go of the Mane 6 so they tried to branch off to Starlight Glimmer/Trixie and the Student Six but those characters are horrible so they ended up character assassinating the lot
>>42939115Based
>>42940711The thing is that, given enough time, all characters would become that bad because all characters suffered from the same issue of most writers not having watched the majority of episodes. The only way to avoid it would be to have a new cast every single season.
>>42940711>I'm glad they stopped writing the m6 retarded and started writing new characters retardedDo haberfags really?
>>42940440Urgay
>>42940721Think of it like rape. Someone is going to get raped, and not by you. Would you like your waifu to get raped? Or would you rather someone else's waifu gets raped?
>>42940126Season 6 is still generally ok, while Season 7 already feels alien. The thing about Season 6 is that it has almost no simply “good” episodes - but instead it has a handful of absolutely magnificent ones! The Season 6 finale is probably one of the best pony finales in the show’s entire history.Season 7 is already boring and bland. It was handled by a completely new creative team, and they lost the touch of FiM. There are fewer outright bad episodes than in Season 6, but there are virtually no great ones either. The opening and the finale are the dullest in the whole series. In retrospect, Season 7 on average even seems more competently made than Season 6, but its soul is already gone.Season 6 is literally the last one that still feels like the very MLP we all love…
>>42940440You're trolling, right? In all my life, I’ve never met anyone who genuinely liked the last 2-3 seasons.
>2019+7>people still spreading the meme of s9 not being as bad as s8Stop saying that, it's not fucking true. If you think that you've probably just forgotten and are parroting what others have said.9 has just as many shit episodes if not more, wirh the added bonus of ending the entire show on a horrible note. At least 8 had kirin, 9 doesn't even have that.
>>42940440Season 9 was rancid dogshitEven worse quality writing than Season 8 and what's more is it tried to pretend it was super serious and edgy like Game of Thrones when everything it was setting up for the finale was retarded as fuck. Season 8 was an incompetent shitpost of a season whereas Season 9 was obnoxiously smug while also being incompetent. Haber and Jim blatantly jerked themselves off for giving Twilight """character development""" to be calm and collected as a lead when in the last episode she went schizo mode over a meaningless trivia game. They thought Discord being a massive piece of shit scheming to assemble a legion of doom to try destroying Equestria was brilliant and he should get off the hook (again) for it.
>>42940609If Haber had his way there wouldn't even be a friendship school in the first place. That's the work of Hasbro and McCarthy.
>>42940990No, Hasbro only asked for there to be a school included like all the other toy inserts throughout FiM. It was the staff who had the amazing idea to turn it into the focus of the whole show for the last two seasons. It could've been a one and done episode thing but they wanted to double dip on school drama cancer because EqG just wasn't enough for some reason.
>>42938682>You may proceed further. Just as I did. But I can tell you... there is no pony from where you are to the end. Just disappointment. And death of hope. OP has been warned and the show has ended years ago, so the shock isn't quite as profound to people like him as it had been to anons in 2018/19. I was one of those fools who kept hopefagging, believing we'd still get a nice episode inbetween the bad in just two more weeks™. Having been at the lowest point of my life and desperate for some of that early season magic, I just couldn't give up on poniponi. Hasbro taught me that hope for things outside of my control is a mistake. As if the season rot hadn't been bad enough, my beloved Discord was Anons' scapegoat for bad writing and everyone's unbridled frustration and anger. Newfags are blessed they weren't here for the meltdown in 2019.
>>42940982The last good Discord-caused problem was those vines that were actually a leftover from his fight with Celly and Luna. After that everything he did was just malicious and he should've been put back into stone again right away.
>>42938713Kek, it's like watching them folk clawing onto pop culture
>>42940913I'm not trolling. Season 9 has some of the best episodes in the whole show>Frenemies>Between Dark and Dawn>A Trivial Pursuit>Growing Up is Hard to Do>The Big Mac QuestionAll of them are 10/10 episodes, some of my all-time favourites.>>42940982>Schizo mode over a meaningless trivia gameHave you considered that a trivia game is completely different from being the ruler of Equestria? And that perhaps, one might be able to let loose and have fun? Or perhaps, that it might be that the episode is really funny, and that it's the most visually impressive episode in the entire show because of all the facial expressions? And that perhaps, that Celestia and Luna aren't perfectly stoic and competent either?
>>42941218>I'm not trolling>Between Dark and Dawn >A Trivial Pursuit>10/10Oh fuck off.
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>>42941778>7 hr bump with nothing to addWhat are you speeding up the board for?
>>42940711Is not like pinkie was being flanderized in season 1the parasprites episodes she acts dumb and makes dumb decisions but for some reason she was right or feeling pinkie keen was "lol you are so randumb pinkie" episode or party for one she gets mad and thinks they hate her because her friends dont go to her party if that was the case most of ponyville ponies hate her since they dont go to her parties
>>42941218Based opinion>>42941221Shit opinion
>>42941791>horribly shit things good actuallyback to /v/ with you
>>42941221>A Trivial Pursuit>10/10Don't fall for the bait, anon.
>>42938676It must be you OP and some faustchuds because season 8 episode 1 and 2 have the same score as season 1 episode 1 and 2
>>42941795I bet you think Feeling pinkie keen and swarm of the century are good episodes even the episode where Zecora was first introduce was awful
>>42938713Only 2 nohooves movies were good the rest of EQG was anime shit gooner slop especially with the beach episodes
https://mlp.fandom.com/wiki/Non-Compete_Clausecan we all agree that this episode is horrendous
>>42940126S6 is great and has a lot of heart. S7 loses some of its soul, similar to S3-4 until S5 steered pony back on the right path. S8-9 is like a steep waterslide leading to EqG hell.
>>42940138Season 7 was not so bad.
>>42941218>a trivial pursuitB8
>>42941870Shit is less horrendous.
>>42941221>>42941797>>42941995I genuinely cannot comprehend why you guys have this opinion. Could someone elaborate instead of just saying it's a bad episode?
>>42942032It's a bad episode.
>>42942032It poisoned our water supply, burned our crops and delivered a plague unto our houses!
>>42938676Who would say something so stunning and brave?
>>42942032ummmm uhh UM...... hmmmm... funny face bad?
>>42941870That's what happens when you try to recreate one of the worst episode of season 1, only this time without nostalgia to make people give it a pass this time.
>>42942090>*loud incorrect buzzer*This is what happens when you remake a lesson from one of the best episodes of Season 1 with the exact same characters, and fail to understand why that's a bad idea.
>>42942109They didn't fail to understand anything, they just didn't give a fuck. The writers literally didn't watch the show and didn't know FWF existed.
>>42942077This but unironically.
>>42942077>implying said faces are funny
>>42942109Fall Weather Friends sucks ass and people only give it a pass because it's season 1.
Just watched School Daze for the first time and I struggle to sum up my thoughts on it. I was prepared for it to be shit, but I didn't expect it to be so overwhelmingly dumb that I integer overflowed into not caring. My brain couldn't parse it as "they ruined FiM" because it was so far removed from the source material that it actually works to its benefit; I can't even see it as the same show, just some sort of asset flip reboot starting with a clean slate.It was even, strangely, kind of comfy? Not "good", but comfy. This asphyxiation high—as it's probably best put—that I'm feeling, is probably bound to wear off in a couple episodes. That's how it went when I hatewatched High Guardian Spice and found it strangely nostalgic at first (first couple eps remind me of things I watched as a kid) but the "comfy vibes" could not last long against the tidal wave of dogshit writing from people who had no idea what they were doing and didn't much care. Clearly the same situation here, I was already calling out so many moments while watching that stuck out to me, like "twiggles wouldn't say that", "where the fuck is the everfree forest", "everycreature is the dumbest word I've ever heard", and most egregiously, "this song is shit, did Ingram really write this?", but despite it all, I strangely just felt calm. The show basically ended two seasons ago, after all, so what does it even matter?I guess I have the benefit of not watching the Hab-era live as it airs. I get the benefits of forewarning and compartmentalizing ahead of time.
>>42942436That's kinda how I felt when I watched it. I had been thoroughly warned, and like you, I was able to compartmentalize it. And when you do that, there's a way in which it's not that bad. It's stupid, out-of-character, and badly executed, but if your expectations are already subterranean, then it can meet your expectations and you can glean a modicum of enjoyment from it. I ain't watching it again, though.
>>42938682>I hate Josh Haber with all my heart.I comprehend and share your hatred for the anti-FiM, good anon.
>>42942436Weirdo. You sound like an AI bot.It was a cute episode.
>>42938676Wail 'til you reach season 9!
>>42938676You're not really missing much. On the Road to Friendship and Sound of Silence are the only highlight episodes of S8. Sparkle Seven and the villain mini arc of Frenemies and The Summer Sun Setback are the only noteworthy parts of S9 (but that requires S8 and early S9 context to really make sense).I didn't find the finale terrible myself. It certainly wasn't great and felt like they crammed three different finale ideas into one story that made it really messy and rushed, but I've seen worse series finales before. Probably the worst part is how much of S8 and S9 you need to watch to really get all the context for it.From a fandom perspective, I have only ever seen the finale and Sound of Silence used in fanfics. Every other episode, other than "plot of the week" oneshot slop, has fallen into the void.>>42941870>it's a "let's redo an early season plot but worse" episode.>>42942032I didn't think it was atrocious but it did feel out of place. We spend the whole season having Twilight getting ready to take over and learning not to overreact and then suddenly we regress to an S1 Twilight, but with more goofy storyboard faces. And not even for some more serious reason but for a comedy angle.Doesn't help it's effectively one gag stretched out for a whole episode. Toss it in as a one scene joke in the sleepover episode? 10/10, but comedy and sight gags wear out fast. Episodes like Party of One, Lesson Zero, and Secrets and Pies demonstrate how much of a balancing act it is trying to keep things going when you're relying on that kind of humor.
>>42943245It's you, Habershill, the one who constantly acting like a spambot on this board. Just move to/lgbt/ where you belong and never come back.
>>42943332No, that board is for queers. But he's a faggot. Not even the queers want faggots.
>>42941806I miss when EQG only had a movie and people was throwing shit at Hasbro for even thinking about doing a second one. The fact said spin-off became so normalized really grinds my gears. At least Rainbow Rocks is decent and the villains were the best part.
>>42943947>At least Rainbow Rocks is decentI rewatched it recently and every single scene in between songs is absolutely painful to watch in its stupidity. It's only carried by Ingram's talent, nothing else.
>>42943950Ingram definitely does heavily carry the movie, but I don't really hate the story. It works good enough with what its message of prioritizing friendship over selfish power and recognition, the dazzlings served the contrast much better that whatever Sunset was supposed to be in the first movie. There are many valid reasons to dislike the movie, but it is sadly the best movie G4 has.
>>42941870It is bad but it is also overhated. The characters are retarded, the plot just moves aimlessly and it was mostly a waste of time, but that's it.Shit like Road to Friendship and A Rockhoof and a Hard Place were way worse just because of terrible lessons they try to push, not even mentioning the other many problems they have from story to direction and everything in between.
>>42942032It's a bit dumb but it's a somewhat enjoyable episode (if you turn your brain off lmao)
>>42942853G.M Berrow created the anti fim also friendly reminder the season 8 and 9 finales have a better score on IMDB than the faustchud seasons
>>42941995A trivial pursuit is decent. if you want MLP trash then you better watch G% I cannnot finnish one episode
>>42941870I liked it also why faustchuds dont complain with the iron pony episode Applejack and Rainbow Dash behaved like asshole in this episode and no one bitches like the non compete clause
>>42942126I agree this episode is bad. I dont understand why faustchuds wont admit half of season 1 episodes are ass
>>42944671>Rainbow Dash behaved like an assholeFIFY
>s8e1>twilight opens her school of ((friendship))>instead of hiring proper teachers she has her unqualified friends do the work for free>school board review time comes to get the school officialized>creature 6 completely trash the place "by accident".>school board being well informed obviously says "fuck no" after analyzing the school>neighsayer is somehow the villain in all of thisI stopped right here, neighsayer is fucking right. >verif not required
>>42944686When you think about it it's basically a defense of charter schools, but liberals weren't mad about that yet so it's unaware of its own message.
>>42944658Proof that this entire fandom must die
>>42940982>They thought Discord being a massive piece of shit scheming to assemble a legion of doom to try destroying Equestria was brilliant and he should get off the hook (again) for it.Did you just completely ignore or miss the point that he was actually trying to do what Twilight does and redeem the villains by making them love and trust each other as friends? Yeah, it blew up in his face and he handled it horribly, but he genuinely thought he was doing something the others would be proud of him for and would make their lives better. He was stupid, but he legit wanted to help.
>>42944658>IMDBJews score Jewish media higher? Color me surprised.
>>42944679>>42944671>>42944663>>42944658Same person
>>42944810same anon sucking many big gay cocks right now
>>42944686>Your post contained banned text
>>42944732His laughing and cackling as he revealed himself to the audience tells me you are full of lies despite never even having seen the later seasons beyond clips like that.
>>42944686>Neighsay says creatures are violent and dangerous>creatures immediately threaten with war at the drop of a hat>Neighsay keeps saying fuck these guys>end of the episode they threaten him with violence until he leaves>episode pretends like he was in the wrongIf this had been made on purpose as parody of modern progressives, it would have been genius.
>>42941786It was Season 1, so those episodes expanded or tested Pinkie's character rather than flanderizing it. Except Swarm of the Century, this episode was shit.
>>42945000>>42944686Same thing happens in Bats desu. Show had a habit of episodes actually proving the moral they were pushing wrong but pretending like they were correct anyway.
>>42945018The show just generally struggled from scripts that needed a few more revisions but never got them. Some are just dumb, some are outright incomplete like Bats.
>>42944671Bait or mental retardation?
>>42944679>half of season 1 episodes are assHalf of season 1 episodes are good but ruined by one pony.
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>>42945064>Half of season 1 episodes are ass
>>42945050Pinkie Pie?>>42945064Can't be AJ. Her episodes were actually positively received and had character development in them.
>>42945064I like Fall Weather Friends and I hate Rainbow Dash. Same with Swarm of the Century, I like it but I hate Pinkie Pie in that episode.
>>42945074Rainbow cunt, I love Applejack and I only hate pinkie in Swarm of the Century and A Friend in Deed.
>>42945087Fair enough. People say her cuntiness was flanderized in season 2, but honestly I think the actual case is that her cuntiness would actually be punished by the narrative in season 2, where as in season 1 she was allowed to get away with a lot that really no other character was able to. So to casual observers it looks like she's a bigger cunt in season 2 than she is in 1, but really she was the same, she just wasn't being allowed to get away with it as much anymore.
>>42945094Is she ever the antagonist for an episode in season 2? Because in Dragonshy and Fall Weather Friends she's essentially the antagonist for both.
>>42945101Closest would be Mare-Do-Well, where she's kinda the cause of the conflict(again), but really even there she's still the protagonist of the episode, so no.I really wish there had been an episode where the conflict really was just 'X pony doesn't want to be around RD anymore because she acts like a piece of shit'. They easily could have done that in Fall Weather Friends, but of course that would imply that RD is a bad friend, so instead we have to say AJ is also wrong for being upset at her and also deserves to be taught a lesson.
>>42945110Can't have a show about best friends that suggests one of them has a fundamental problem with the way they treat their friends, alas.
>>42945110Nobody wants to accept this, but the only reason RD was allowed to be as much as a cunt as she was in the first season was because she was Faust's reimplementation of her favorite pony Firefly, and Faust's protagonist of the show by proxy. Also the ideal way a female should be able to behave according to the feminist doctrine Faust ascribes to: do whatever you want even if it hurts others and never get any reprimand for it.
>>42945132I don't think that's accurate given the other characters do regularly give her shit for being an egotistical jerk. I think Faust did adore Dash but I don't think she saw her as any sort of ideal.
>>42945139>other characters do regularly give her shit for being an egotistical jerkyet the show treats them either as being wrong about RD or that they and RD are both wrong.>>42945126Yes you can and the show can tell a story about how the character discovers that and tries to overcome it, you could even call it character development or something.
>>42945132You can also really see the favoritism in the way that RD is responsible for everyone getting their cutie marks as children, and how she also has this mythical feat that only she can do and no other pony, not even the princess' themselves are good enough at flying to match it.If you gave a fanfic character all the qualities that Season 1 RD has, everyone would call your character a Mary Sue.>>42945139You say she gets shit, but at the same time she is never treated the same way characters like Diamond Tiara, Trixie, or GIlda are. In any other episode, the character acting the way RD does in FWF would be the villain of the episode who everyone decries for the way she treats the other pony, AJ in this case. But instead, AJ is also treated as being part of the problem and RD's attitude is completely overlooked by everyone involved, to the point that RD never even apologizes to AJ for her actions even at the end of the episode.
>>42945158That's because RD is a main character. They always get treated better than background ponies.
>>42945151The show's inconsistent with her. Boast Busters and Dragonshy both take her to task for her ego, the former being a simple gag and the latter having her as the episode's core antagonist. Other episodes like Fall Weather Friends, Over A Barrel and Suited For Success treat her as an equal to other petty ponies.
>>42945171Speaking of Over A Barrel, I can never get over how RD's completely flip flopping loyalties are never noticed or talked about by anyone. She takes the Buffalo at their word and completely turns her back on AJ and her family in the disagreement and doesn't even bother with trying to get a more equal deal for her own friend, but then when the fighting actually starts, she apparently doesn't feel THAT righteous about the Buffalo's cause, and sits out the whole fight rather than provide any help after she was the one backing them. So she completely flakes out on not just one of the factions, but both of them, within the same conflict.She's the complete opposite of loyal or steadfast. Her loyalties change on a whim and she's completely content to switch sides on a dime. Her sense of loyalty is completely fair weather and she's just about the worst pony you could rely on in a conflict.
>>42945187I feel like Over A Barrel is one of the earliest episodes where they clearly needed one or two more revisions. There are other episodes I dislike in season one but Over A Barrel feels like a grabbag of scenes that lead into eachother with the weakest possible links, whereas other ones usually have a stronger plot that frustrates me for other reasons.
>>42945171How is RD an antagonist in Dragonshy? She was just more open about her complaints about Fluttershy than the rest and didn't do anything to worsen their situation with the dragon or make it harder to climb that mountain. BB and Dragonshy episodes have gags at RD's expense that are not to be taken seriously or as a lesson, and they are coupled with the rest of the gags at the expense of the Mane 6 since they all fail to convince the dragon to leave and all get humiliated or lose to Trixie, except of course Fluttershy and Twilight because those episodes are about them.
>>42945211The others want Fluttershy to come along from the start and only start to lose doubt in her as things go on. She also did worsen things with the dragon, she's the one that decides to outright attack it which is what causes the crisis that Fluttershy has to resolve.
>>42945217Ok, but I don't think it's enough to call RD an antagonist of this episode. Since when she did say they should leave Fluttershy in Ponyville from the very beginning, it was because she was concerned about the mission failing, since they would have to take care of Fluttershy that would distract them from dragon and RD could be also concerned about Fluttershy herself being too afraid to do anything useful, and while she did escalate the conflict with the dragon, it was after all other solutions failed.
>>42945222>she did escalate the conflict with the dragon, it was after all other solutions failed.No they hadn't. AJ hadn't gone in yet, and I don't remember Pinkie having tried yet either. She escalated because she's brash and impatient, something that she never develops out of being.
>>42945222You can disagree but it's the closest any member of the Mane Six comes to being an antagonist in any episode of FiM I can think of. The core of the episode is the relationship between Dash and Fluttershy and Dash is clearly making things worse the whole time, then she gets embarrassed in the conclusion of the episode. It's pretty clear-cut to me.
>>42945247>I don't remember Pinkie having tried yet either.She got lightly roasted while wearing a silly outfit.
>>42945247Pinkie just went in dressed up as a party gift and Applejack stayed behind to protect the rest in case dragon would attack them.
>>42945248>it's the closest any member of the Mane Six comes to being an antagonist in any episode of FiMRD in Fall Weather FriendsRD in Mysterious Mare do WellRD in Ticket MasterRarity in Look Before you sleepMane 6 in bridle gossipTwilight in feeling pinkie keenRarity in Green isn't your colorRD in Over a barrelFluttershy in a bird in the hoofTwilight in lesson zeroPinkie in Luna eclipsed RD in may the best pet winPinkie in friend in deedfluttershy in putting your hoof downMane 5 in mmmystery on friendship express
>>42945262I don't think any of those are comparable to Dragonshy. Rainbow Dash starts off knowingly being against Fluttershy coming along, she then gets frustrated and downright insulting, then eats shit at the end of the episode. There's no moment where she has a misunderstanding that causes her to act that way and there's no reciprocal action on Fluttershy's part, Rainbow Dash is the one causing the conflict from the start to the finish.
>>42945293>Fall Weather FriendsRainbow Dash starts off knowingly being against Applejack winning, she then gets frustrated and downright insulting, then don't even apologizes at the end of the episode. There's no moment where she has a misunderstanding that causes her to act that way and there's no reciprocal action on Applejacks part, Rainbow Dash is the one causing the conflict from the start to the finish.
>>42945310NTA but the narrative of Fall Weather Friends also blames AJ and treats her as being equally in the wrong, so RD definitely isn't really being presented as an antagonist here.
>>42945310Applejack reciprocates in the race and the episode then punishes them both equally. It's dumb but the show clearly considers them both to have made a mistake, in the same way that Rarity is clearly the antagonist in Green Isn't Your Color but the episode treats Fluttershy not speaking up as equally bad. There is no such equality in Dragonshy.
>>42945315Well, in that case, the Dragonshy narrative doesn 't present RD as an antagonist then, since its lesson is about the dragon being in the wrong and Fluttershy finding her courage. RD isn't presented as being in the wrong , but only as making one mistake that the episode barely mentions and doesn 't focus on at all.
Can't we just all agree that RD is Top Cunt not because of her behavior but because of her cunt?
>>42945336is her cunt pink or rainbow?
>>42945336Nah, personality is just too much of a turn off. I'd prefer the cunt of anyone else. I'm not sure I could even hatefuck her desu.
>>42945326>he episode barely mentions and doesn 't focus on at all.The episode dedicates over a quarter of Rainbow Dash's dialogue to either being frustrated with Fluttershy or calling her useless, and Dash is the third most talkative character in the episode.>RD isn't presented as being in the wrongThe episode ends with her being proven to be a liar about not being scared and lets Fluttershy get one up on her, albeit only temporarily. She also is explicitly said to be in the wrong for hitting the dragon when Fluttershy is the voice of reason at the climax of the episode, thus letting even little children know that being frustrated, impatient and lashing out is a bad thing to do.
FiM was just really badly written. The aesthetics and setting were really interesting but its clear they didn't have anything planned and were just writing on the fly If they simply diagrammed the scenes and planned out their character arcs and considered their dramatic implications, then they would've turned out a much more cohesive product>oh but that's too much workThat's literally their job, to write and create a good script
>>42945356I mean, you say that but the show hit all the character notes it wanted to hit, it just hit them in season one and Return of Harmony. Then they had to keep the show going.
>>42945159shame, the background ponies are much hotter than the M6
>>42945361Then they should have moved the cast to new characters, like the CMC, or explored Celestia and Luna's character more. The setting of Equestria is big and has a lot of story hooksEh, but what's done is done. I just really hope they don't make G6 the mediocre product that G5 was
>>42945372I certainly hope G6 will be decent. I can't expect it to be outright good or great, but a 6/10 would be nice.
>>42942032It turned me into a newt!
>>42945356Doesn't help when they plan for 2 seasons and suddenly the show gets stupidly popular and they have to make 7 additional seasons
>>42945356The original writers used to work on shows where gags and the fun factor were more important than setting a good moral. So these shows were full of jokes at the expense of a seemingly innocent character. Personally, I don't mind it because I like those shows (in some ways better than FIM) but these scenes are incongruous with the general theme of FIM which makes them reflect worse on the characters, whereas if it happened in a show like PPG nobody would bat an eye.
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>>42940907That explains why Twilight Velvet became a completely different character. I hated that.
>>42945356if we, as a collective, laid down on the copium as to see how faust jumped the shark all the way back to the literal SECOND episode of SEASON 1 when she completely undermined nightmare moon's backstory and twilight's conflict of making friends in just a single fucking anime flashback powerup asspull that was neither earned, properly setup nor build up in the slightlest but instead just given to her by the writers because she happened to notice the strangers she just met being useful to her cause and thus, realizing"huh, having friends can be useful, never before in my whole life did I never stop to make that connection despite being characterized as the autistic nerd".problem?Nightmare Moon's struggle with being overshadowed by Celestia?Boom, gone! She was just being a whiny bitch that needed some rainbow tasting spanking to be set back on the right place.problem?Twilight's inflated ego and lack of social skills being the very things keeping her from making friends?Boom, gone! Friends just... come to her...willingly! She is actually flawless and just needed to learn how friends can be useful.problem?Celestia's failure with her sister being the cataclysm to her corruption and the error of the past that had to be corrected somehow if Celestia were to ever hope to get things back to normalcy with her sister?Boom! Gone! Thanks to floaty magic rocks going YEEE, Luna gets back with Celestia just fine, in fact, it's Luna who feels any kind of guilt or remorse for her past, as if she even had the opportunity to do anything wrong before being sentenced a 1000 years on the moon with no trial.They don't even attempt to make a connection between the main conflict and the protagonists, Twilight just wants to stop Nightmare Moon because hurr durr she is evil and eternal nights are bad, that's it! Nothing about that motivation relates to making friends or learning about friendship. What about Nightmare Moon's backstory relates to Twilight in any way? There's nothing! It's just generic evil backstory for generic evil villain that generic protagonist must defeat by overcoming their generic problem and save the day.The show only shines in the isolation of single episodes of contained narratives because it couldn't really go beyond that, it was, in fact, made primarily to sell toys and done so in a restrictive budget reflective of this fact.Lauren Faust did not revolutionize girl's media, she just struck gold in a time where there wasn't much competition and internet hype culture was up for grabs, all she really had to do was make a cute show with cute ponies in wholesome moments with nothing too annoying to scare the adults away and she would've won!Had she done nothing beyond the bare minimum of this formula, the results wouldn'tve differed.If you pay close attention, you would realize just how unremarkable the show is at everything else it tries, including comedy. It's a show made to be enjoyed, not really thought about.
