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My WIFE and her greasy, slimy, unwashed ponut farting out filly killing flatulence!
The premiere is uphttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVkd7QS93Eg
>>42941632For a second I thought Cosmo was wearing a bra
>>42941632Buy an ad.
fwaless
With 2025 passed, I’m running the Tamers Awards for the 4th year running again. These polls are to record the fandom’s reaction to Tamers cartoons over the past year. The links below will link to strawpolls allowing you to vote on the various categories. Most polls allow more than one vote so read the allowed votes under the title of each poll. This poll will be live until the end of February. I’m only going to post this to the Tamers thread on /mlp/, but feel free to post the elsewhere to other Tamers fans. It’s not 4chan exclusive.Please let me know asap if there is anything missing / errors with the polls. I didn’t include as many gifs because last year people complained that a page of 80 farting gifs didn’t load for them. Many SU characters didn’t appear this year in the cartoons so they are not being included.Best Main Character of 2025https://strawpoll.com/X3nkPa3PPgEBest Ship of 2025https://strawpoll.com/YVyPvPMv4gNBest Feature Length Episode of 2025https://strawpoll.com/kogjRzxqPg6Best New Character of 2025https://strawpoll.com/1MnwkQ76Mn7Best AMV of 2025https://strawpoll.com/XmZRQP34PgdMost Epic Battle of 2025https://strawpoll.com/bVg8BA01ryYMost Tragic Death of 2025https://strawpoll.com/XmZRQbpevgdBest Fan Service of 2025https://strawpoll.com/7MZ0krQYGgoMost Wholesome Moment of 2025https://strawpoll.com/PKgleGRm4ZpBest Fart of 2025https://strawpoll.com/bVg8BX6AByYMost Wanted Tamers Series for 2026https://strawpoll.com/Q0Zp7eENxgMImportant Survey of 2025https://strawpoll.com/BDyNzQAOeyR
>>42941632lol
Mari~
Double the filliesDouble the goo~
>>42941665Me on the far right
>>42941978What episode was this?
>>42941978heck yeah
>>42941984RenFair episode, only a cameo though.
I have nothing for the premiere again. Just gonna go for coffee. Anyone here getting something to munch?Slow week.
>>42941632Holy shit there's an episode today? My god what is it, like 4 weeks of putting stuff out consistently? Tamers is crazy good
>>42942055The Dandy's World characters look so simple to draw that it probably takes him back to his Sonic Underground days where every character could basically be completed with the circle tool alone, that I'm not surprised the Dandy's World stuff can come out so fast
>>42942070true, all of the animation budget went into rudy's shitter last episode
>>42942050I'm making grilled bbq chicken with dirty rice. Gonna charge up with some choco edibles. The anticipation before it hits is always the best.
>>42942097Grilled bbq chicken hell yeah. That's some good shit.
>>42942097>Learning I'm Chinesekek
You guys know any Tamers12345-coded Skyrim mods out there? I've already got the Animated Fart Shouting mod in the queue.
>>42942156I haven't played Skyrim but I'm curious. Is it any good as it is or people just play it to mess with the mods?
>>42942164If you've never played another Elder Scrolls game or even another RPG for that matter you'd enjoy it, but yeah people usually use it as a mod loader. Beat paying for new games when you can just mod Skyrim to be whatever you want it to be.
>>42942050I've got some chili dogs from work lined up. Its been quiet here this week. We're sandwiched between Sonic Underground and Dandy's World.I wonder if we're getting honse next week? I also wonder if its going to kick off the next major arc. I feel like the last episode could be a good tamers12345 MLP season 3 finale. New year and a new season starting sounds like kino
>>42942156https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/101747
>>42942164Skyrim is a good game, it got ported to everything multiple remasters for a reason. If Skyrim wasn't a fun game there wouldn't be a big mod scene for it. Just look at Starfield as an example of a total failure of a Bethesda game that Todd Howard thought was gonna be the next Skyrim.
>>42941624Call me a fag but this series got noticeably less funny when they stopped bullying rarity
>>42941641This episode was the start of comfy SoL mare-timeline episodes. It's fanservice/wholesome moments did well in the other pols. Why did it get so few votes here?
>>42942189fag
>>42942199Uploaded the day before Tamers' OG channel got deleted and wasn't re-uploaded to the second one.
>>42942175I hope we do but also I wouldn't mind if they decide to take a break. He haven't gotten episodes weekly in a long ass time. Has anyone come up with Season 1 2 and 3 episode lists?The most defined one was the 1st one since Tamers himself said everything before the Soarin&Braeburn movie was "Season 1" on his interview.
>>42942215Unironically this. Such a shame because the episode was really funny. The Chrysalis and Shining Armor bit on TV was kino.
>>42942226I wonder if he still doesn't know that she's his daughter? Like Celestia paid off the TV host to lie since having a changeling in the Royal Family Tree would be a massive controversy.
>>42941978>>42941990Who is the Flora of MLP?
>>42942257I hope he acknowledges her. She's basically cousins with Flawless. There's a lot of potential dynamics.
I love the way he draws Chryssy with the :3 mouth. >>42942263#13420 or Luna
Been listening to good kid m.A.A.d. city and visualizing #13420 in Kendrick's place. She may have skin like Drake but she a real hood chigga when all's said and done.
Tamers Chat today is showing me that Dandy's World fans are somehow the most mentally ill of all the Tamers show fans.
>>42942199Its because Applejack is lame. Rarity, Twilight, and Trixie were good in it but AJ held the episode back.
>>42942327>ChildrenYes.
Next Sonic Underground episode when?
>>42942361Probably not an episode but the cast is probably going to appear again once the Tournament of Power arc starts.
YAOI HORSES EPISODES IN PRODCUTION
>>42942363Does Tamers even remember that thing?
>>42942366How does he do it. How.
>>42942368I have hope.
dandy's world episodes seem to attract the worst live chatters, but the episodes themselves are usually fun and worth it
>>42942327You might be right lol
>>42942407It's really apparent in the comments how young the audience actually is
700 watching
>that roger webcamLMAO
UNC
already with the cheating stuff
Still didn't see any Dandy shit, it's any good?
>>42942460So far this episode is funny
Train autist Dyle
>>42942460First episode is roughAfter that it's like old SU.
TOON ABILITIES
>>42942460This episode is funny as fuck so far, a lot better than the last one.
AND JUST LET HIM DIE!?!
CHRYSALYS PLACEHOLDER
LMAO TIKTOK IS GONNA GO NUCLEAR WITH THAT ONE
Wow.
he's gonna need a new channel after this one again
What was up with the bit of Monster Dandy poking Astro's eye? Is that a game thing?
>Tamers is actually following the in game loreOH FUCK, THERE MAY ACTUALLY BE A HANDLER>>42942513poking? Not. Extracting Ichor, yes.
RATE
>>429425178/10. Got really good at the ending. Also, stay tuned for a possible channel nuke, because after that Gourdy scene is very probable
>>429425178/10. Glad to see tamers leaned into the sexy baby shit instead of bowing to literal babies.
>>42942517Funny as fuck. But I just don't know what to say about ((that)) tho.
>doubling down on things that puriteens are complaining about instead of backing offHello, based department? He's at it again.
>>42942517I really enjoyed it. Laughed a lot and a smile was on my face beginning to end. 10/10 from me.
>>42942506It's really no worse than all the other Dandy's World stuff on youtube>>42942513It's not outright confirmed but it is implied that Dandy and Astro both have connections to the "ichor project" and it's theorised that the ichor comes directly from Astro because of his space theme
>>4294251710/10 episode honestly, new best Dandy's World TeeBeeAcH
>>42942528i dunno, the piss scene, the eyesocket fingering scene that sounded like stirring good mac'n'cheese in an endless hallway, and the other piss scene seem like something youtube wouldn'T leave up for too long
>>42942518>because after that Gourdy scene is very probablebruh its fine, its just a stupid pumpkin mascot
>he legit doubled down on the sexy baby jokeApologize, right now.
Anyone knows how many people were watching it? I think it almost hit like 2000 viewers.
>>42942377this explains the rate increase
>>42942538cracked up when i saw this
>>42942517It was alright.
>>42942540close, maximum was 1956
Before you ask, Dyle is in game a train autist as well
>>429425176/10 it was fine. I'm interested in the direction they're going with Goob. Also Tamers doubling down on the sexy baby is based.
>>42942554Do the toons have canonical ages? Or is Dyle the only old one
>>429425176/10I just don't really care about the Dandy stuff yet.
>>429425175/10 I know Dandy World is the most popular but it feels inferior compared to SU, and MLP
>>42942559Toodles and Gourdy are the only children toons. The rest is ambiguous but they are probably young since they are based on a kids show and those are usually have younger characters.
>>42942517If the pumpkin thing's whole gimmick is seductive loli I'm so for it. Look at the fucking eyes bruh.
>>42942575The pumpkin is a boy
>>42942578I'm cool with seductive shotas too, rolls off the tongue better anyways.
>>42941624is there a playlist where I can watch all of these in order?
I thought Poppy was supposed to be the bitch bimbo of the toons
Also, Astro is a slut
>>42942583https://www.youtube.com/@Tamers12345mlp_Archive
That sure will be interesting in the ToP
>>42942590thank you
>>42942559No canon ages but adult, old, and childChildren-Toodles and GourdyOld-EggsonEveryone else is just adult.
>>42942584Tisha is a natural shortstack
>>429425178/10 they're being mean to goob again and I don't like it.
>>42942524>>42942538>>42942555>>42942581Of all the recurrent gags in Tamers this one is the only one that rubs me the wrong way personally. It never goes as far as supporting it unless it's a character that's already morally dubious like MJ or the Oracle. And those get the stink eye from other characters anyway.
>>42942630Top right is my favorite Tamers joke of all time. Also you forgot picrel.
>>42942630In the Tamersverse, Michael Jackson is a pedo but he's also a good guy.
>>42942642So is the Oracle of Delphiusl
>>42942630It feel a bit forced, yes, he clearly just pushing it to annoy that one obsessed loser on xitter.
>>42942636I was mostly refering to the adult male character hitting on a kid gag. Most of them are usually jokes (And incestuous for some reason) but still I can't with that shit. Sorry man. Most I can say is say about it is that it works wonders as a filter. If you can't handle that, you might as well not be watching Tamers I guess.
>>42942652>Most I can say is say about it I'm dyslexic
>>42942630this guy showing up in any episode is instantly -2 pointsone of the biggest reasons mlp > su
>>42942655Goob moment
>>42942652That's why he puts it in. It's a filter, also it's funny.
>listenan to Kendrick and sippin' on Mint Crankas all dayTamers vids for this feel?
>>42942630Another proof Yaoi Tamers was the one responsible for most of SU unlike what some believe in this thread
>>42942661South Park has done even worse things to its children characters. And if that shit gets to be mainstream I can't see the problem if it's done as a joke.
>>42942674That's true. South Park is lame as fuck these days but if early SP can do what they did than i don't see why Tamers can't either.
>>42942678The only reason why we percieve these as jokes is because we don't really know who's telling them or their intentions. And since we don't know Tamers at all we can just assume he isn't serious. And I hope it stays this way cuz holy shit.
>>42942665Dollar Store Episode
>>42942717He is bringing them back next episode
>>42942717He wanted to be extra naked because he's on the beach.
>>42942559Toodles is the only ones with a canon age being 8 (cause she's an 8 ball), while all the others are confirmed to be over 21 according to Qwel
I'll be taking 5 drawing requests. Tamers related stuff only as always.Courtesy of Arinosposter who was really cool and supported me.I'll be taking my time with these so choose wisely. First come first served.
>>42942741#13420 blasting and bopping to Kendrick Lamar.
>>42942650How is it forced? Soulvestors whole joke is that he's a ghost from the 1600s where it was okay to hit women and be a pedophile
>>42942741#13420 smoking a fat blunt
>>42942741Flora on an Ice Cream Parlor outing with Sonia (the former thinks it's a date) .
Canon compliant Dandicus Dancifur btw
>>42942575Tamers will have to acknowledge Cozy eventually, and that'll be her archetype if he's not a pussy
>>42942741>>42942782Draw Tamers Cozy Glow
>>42942748>>42942761Do I gotta listen to his music to draw this? Suggest me some cuz rap ain't my thing. I've only ever listened to MF DOOM. >>42942765Florafags need something. I see what I can do bro.>>42942769...Okay.>>42942785I dunno who that is but alright.
>>42942810It's this bitch. You should like, draw her with Glimmy and have Glimmy be tutoring her on how to get away with killing stallions.
>>42942810All you need to do is listen to this https://youtu.be/xnEYzp6IpqQ?si=LIQjUIrBwJ9KHpIK
>>42942741Twilight spanking Flawless as punishment, but its accidentally hot as fuck.>>42942785or this
>>42942816Reminder that they MURDERED this little child by turning her into stoneIn an actual cartoon meant for little girls
>>42942824Yeah it was pretty fucked.
>>42942810Just listen to Not Like Us and you'll get it.
>>42942810>>42942826If you want a fuller picture just listen to the Kendrick Lamar vs. Drake beef that's like one hour. Either way take as much time as you need.https://youtu.be/vLSzn2gvmLg
>>42942825Did Tamers ever release Mega Milk Trixie as a png?
>>42942816She looks like she has swiss rolls on her head lol>>42942819>>42942826>>42942832Noted! I might take a bit to make these so patience will be appreciated. Thanks to everyone for participating.>>42942824based
>>42942834No.
LOOK OUT FLAWLESS!
>>42942824reminder that they can unstone her, not that she deserves ithttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vP7JF9Z7TyYhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8bcBLi9z_4chttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yRIltibA1cA
>>42942824It was fucking bizarre. I could expect something like that in Tamers, but not the actual show.
That last Dandy's world episode really makes me appreciate how much better the MLP episodes writing is in both the Mare and Stallion episodes.
>>42942906I see what you mean For me seeing the newest SU reminded me how much better Tamers MLP stuff is. Dandy's world has way more views the his MLP series is his best show.
>>42942906The mlp episodes have extremely developed characters, the Dandy's World episodes right now are much more similar to the early mlp stuff like Hot Pot, Unicorn Con, Pinkie Pie's Sleepover, ect. before all the story stuff came in came
>>42942912Hot Pot, Unicorn Con, and Pinkie's Sleepover is better than the Dandy stuff
I love goob so much bros
>>42942948Will his bullying ever stop?
>>42942951No because he has autism.
>>42942741Trixie looking stylish as fuck while chopping up a hoard of changelings with her scythe.
Tamers really must've loved the drained/so thirsty
>>42943067>brap
>>42943067I wish Goob had a tail
>>42943067how come the purple box guy has nipples but others dont
>You can kilo ghosts with a glock 9Puts the boo in boom.
>>42942263Here's what I could think of>TrixieBlue girl with white hair of strange magical ability, penchant for food that nobody else likes, has a raging hard on for a girl that "always tries to do the right thing">FluttershyBoring and everyone ignores her, quiet and in the background, homophobic, kinda stupid.>ChrissyBlack, sexually obsessed with a white person in a relationship with someone else, weird stalker presence that nobody likes.>13420Autism, black, racially alienated from her family (albeit in the opposite way)>LunaConstantly getting mogged by her bigger white sister
>>42943100Finn also had nipples
>>42942948Why? He's autistic; unloveable.
I was looking to see if Tamers had been subbed in other languages and manhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Lg8E1hHmTkThis is some dedication, fully 'dubbed' and everything, kinda basedgopnik Trixie is cute
>>42942980>this retard that doesn't know what sex is and completely overload his mind as he has the best orgasm while his arms flail around in confusionI was scrolling up from the bottom of the thread and was fully expecting it to be a picture of Care Package and not Goob
>the Dandy's World fans seething on twitter over the Gourdy scenekek
>>4294251710/10 Probably the hardest I've laughed watching something in years.
>>42943433Wait until see TikTok
>>42942824>tried to take over the world and kill many>was already sent to jail and had her wrong doings explicitly explained after she jumped the shark in trying to steal all magic and borderline go full nazi supremacist>Sided with the worst threats in their world>Give her the minor punishment of stasis that doesn't even last forever and is shown in comics to even be breaking long before even the S9 timeskip endingShe got off easy as fuck
>>42943453>kill manyMass murder was never a part of her plan. She cant rule over the dead.>sent to jail No, she was sent to Tartarus, a small empty metal cage in pony hell. Unfair punishment number 1.>Sided with the worst threats in their worldThanks to Discord primarily.>minor punishment its not minor.No, she didn't get off easy. Especially considering that Starlight and Tempest never faced any consequences for their actions while Discord was left unpunished after season 9. If those three deserved second chances then so did she.
>>42943469>Mass murder was never a part of her plan. She cant rule over the dead.They all tried to kill the M6, as well as everyone who resisted. Not one of those creatures were down to surrender and they were even gonna rip off spike's wings. Murder was always in the plan as unlike Sombra they have no mind control abilities nor cared to even attempt them when they came to confront the team.>No, she was sent to Tartarus, a small empty metal cage in pony hell. Unfair punishment number 1.yeah, jail of the highest degree for a crime that was beyond all reason. One does not try to steal all magic and go to the dungeon, they go to ultimate jail as that is a Tirek level crime.>Thanks to Discord primarily.Nah, they all had any chance to think for themeselves and Bail especially after stealing his magic. Discord only freed them, they literally colluded to betray him and still decided to go with take over the world and kill whoever stood in the way. Discord literally only assembled them, the rest was entirely of their free will.>its not minor.It really is: You age is kept still, your awareness nearly nonexistent, your life kept on pause so you may think alone and reflect in silence. When you are free you literally lose nothing, you've got an entire life ahead of you as you're still the same age you went in and if you try hard enough you can just break out with time. A major punishment is what Cosmos got where despite everyone else sealing her Discord himself ensures she will never be freed by removing one of the critical parts to her seal on top of the rest of her constellation being scattered in space, all after he mindwipes even the memory of her from everyone's mind.The Legion of doom got it easy.>Starlightlying is not on the same level as trying to control the world and stealing all magic. Quite literally never had any intent for the rest of the world and her little town built on lies was still made willingly as they were convinced to join her, the next time she tried something her intents were literally just singular revenge and the moment she saw it went beyond affecting her sole target she folded and gave up.>TempestActually had a reason and the moment she realized she got played she betrayed the villain and risked her life for the squad at the first chance.Not one of the trio, even after 2 real jail sentences try to do anything on their own to improve, despite chrysalis literally losing her people to actual mindset changes and Tirek already getting freedom once, all still choose, with all the freedom of Borderline ultimate magic, to go try and take over the world and kill the 6. They got the next level of minor punishment, they earned. Cozy literally just had to do ANYTHING but side with them to earn the right to NOT finish her sentence that she skipped out from.
>>42943491>They all tried to kill the M6, as well as everyone who resisted. Only in combat. If anything, they were remarkably merciful given that they chose not to kill a lot of their enemies who were at their mercy. Tirek could have killed the Pillars. He didn't. Cozy could have killed those guards she took out. She did not. On the flip-side, Starlight arguably tried to kill 3 innocent ponies who were only trying to get the M6's cutie marks back from her.>jail of the highest degree for a crime that was beyond all reasonNo, it was not a normal jail. It was a small empty metal cage in pony hell. She was not sent to a normal prison by any means. Normal prisons at least have beds. And at the end of the day, all she achieved with her plan was inconveniencing Equestria for a few days.>they all had any chance to think for themeselves and Bail They didn't. Discord was forcing them to be there and to work together. After that, considering that no one was trying to reform them, and Discord was actively encouraging them to work together towards an evil goal. It was Discord's plan on a fundamental level to attack during Twilight's coronation. If anything, the entire season finale, including what the trio did, went according to that plan, ironically enough. By that logic, why did Starlight not just decide to stop after Our Town? Or why didn't Tempest abandon Storm King? Or why was Discord horrible after being given multiple second chances? Sorry, but this argument does not make that much sense. Yea, Discord assembled them, but he also did it with the intention of getting them to do evil, which he encouraged them to do.Speaking of Discord, it's telling that they did not straight up kill him after finding out how he was using them. Very merciful of them.>awareness nearly nonexistentDiscord was aware.>think alone and reflect in silenceBeing trapped awake while being unable to move is horrific.>When you are free If.>you've got an entire life ahead of you Assuming no lingering trauma is involved, though that's more of an issue for Cozy.>The Legion of doom got it easy.Nope.>not on the same level She enslaved a town, kidnapped the Main 6, tried to force them into her ideology, with the goal of expanding it, almost destroyed the multiverse, and no, she did not stop after seeing the potential consequences of her actions. She still needed convincing after that. This mare saw that she destroyed the world and still didn't immediately stop. Her negative actions ultimately had more impact then Cozy's.>the moment she realized she got played she betrayed the villain If the villain gave her the horn back, she would have helped enslave Equestria.>try to do anything on their own to improveNo reformed villain did. They all needed dedicated help in reforming them to change. Starlight didn't change on her own, Discord straight up mocked the Main 6 after being released for a second chance and Tempest needed to be betrayed to switch sides.
>>42943452Just search Tamers on xitter and see for yourself
>>42943515Nta but I’ve been looking since it aired. Just the usual Diddy comment, “take him to jail”, and “please don’t do this”. Nothing too crazy and pretty normal to what he used to deal with. It’s not even a lot.
>>42943515I did. There's nothing I can see but cute gay redraws.I want to read seethe but see none. Are you lying for attention?
>>42943518>>42943520Sorry, but I consider people crying about the SoulvsterXGourdy thing seething. Like, they crying because they now can't openly say they like it without getting the look from general Dandy community.
>>42943525Okay POST THE PROOF.
>>42943531Already said all the people crying about it, just look at Tamers post about opinions on the last episode on xitter for an examplehttps://x.com/TheTamers12345/status/2009794201307783664
>not even 24 hours>already 20k views
>>42943509>Only in combat.Yeah combat isn't ending, literally a whole other timeline has shown that if push came to shove the ponies would rage and endless war against JUST Sombra if it meant fighting his oppression. There is no chance that now, with a far more motivated world with even more support and connections, that they are laying down even if the M6 fall given even students were capable of motivating the millions(more accurately hundreds tops in the show) to fight a fruitless battle against the ultimate evil. Even Trixie, a pony with no real combat power, showed up ready to run it. They will either die standing or all be stuck in a dungeon and then still try to fight.>No, it was not a normal jail.Yes it is, it's literally just a bigger dungeon. Literally the equivalent of Pony supermax as it's nothing more. None of them are tortured or even really punished, all just in little jail cells. Even free to just talk to each other with no restrictions. It is literally mega timeout with nothing else, isn't even notably hot based on how all of them act. She lost the right to comfort the moment she tried to steal all magic, just like Tirek. Comfort is for actual petty crimes, she passed that bar.>They didn't. They did, again, they all could have said no. Given they literally even go on to plan, and successfully mind you, betray him, they could have ALL just left after that. Ya know, that thing even Sunset did back when she got in trouble and just bailed on equestria for an ungodly amount of years. The moment they proved they could even over throw him the world was their oyster and they chose, 'fight and try to rule the world' the thing that not even Sombra(closest to doing it) succeeded at and instead of considering maybe try to get discord to put in a good word, the thing fluttershy did to get him off his sentence, they chose fight the world.There is no excuse to them having a chance, they all made their choices the moment they were free from discord's plan AND not one of them at any point considered 'this is kinda dumb, maybe if I take out the other two idiots I can come out of this a hero and not go back to jail'>Discord was aware.He's also not normal, he feeds and exists on a concept that is always active>Being trapped awake while being unable to move is horrific.Not really, Sensory deprivation is a rather normal thing and that's IF they are truly conscious which even that image seems to imply isn't the case given Chrysalis doesn't seem confused or otherwise, rather just holding that same idea. Not to mention, as you already said, Discord was fine so unless you wanna take that back this criticism doesn't really make anything different.>IfIt's a when as already shown and proven by Discord>AssumingAgain, discord came out fine and for all 3 none have ties to anyone of the modern age so they literally have nothing but more seething.>She enslaved a townNo, she convinced idiots into listing and agreeing as proven in the end.
>>42943509>If the villain gave her the horn back, she would have helped enslave Equestria.Yes, there was a concrete agreement and reason for her even being evil. Only a villain offered to help her after everyone else abandoned her simply because her horn was gone. She'd have sided with ANYONE who could have given her the horn back and once she was given a reality check there was no further reason to be evil as nothing was bringing her horn back. Again, she had a just reason to even follow that path, she had literally only wanted one thing back and offered loyalty in hopes of their deal being held.>This mare saw that she destroyed the world and still didn't immediately stop. Her negative actions ultimately had more impact then Cozy's.The fuck are you talking about? She only got to see the final world, before that Twilight only tried to tell her about the places she saw and she, justifiably, didn't believe her because the notion that ONE pony's friendship predicated on the whole balance of the world sounds batshit insane and so she didn't believe her and tried to stick to her plan of just making sure Rainbow specifically never does the rainboom/connects the friendship. The only time she actually gets dragged to see what Twilight is talking about, she gives up on the spot because she just wanted twilight to not be friends, not destroy the world. It took only one time seeing the cost of her choice to understand that she can't mess with the race or the world gets fucked and that alone made her quit since its beyond what she wants. Cozy glow wanted and intended to steal from the entire world and then on her second go rule It and destroy whatever and whoever stood in the away; one literally intends to destroy the world while the other literally was Trixie tier and wanted to just mess with Twilight in spite. They ain't the same and all of the other futures are all things that were possible outcomes but not lingering worlds.>Discord assembled them, but he also did it with the intention of getting them to do evil, which he encouraged them to do.He did it with the intention that they'd feel a bit threatening and mainly only serve as an ego boost for his friends, with himself being an intended safety net from the start. He always planned to stop them, not let them cause real damage. The same reason he even let Sombra run free, if it escalated he could handle it in seconds.>No reformed villain did. Trixie did, Discord did, Tempest did, Stygian did, etc. Eveyone else had 2 offenses MAX and the second was the reality check. Chrysalis literally just tried to make an evil 6 while nobody even knew she existed and she could have just been living in her own freedom. Not one of them, even in freedom, decided to NOT try to be a dickhead even when confronted by the M6 or even given a chance to surrender or think before they acted.
>>42943539Yeah, Current Thing pulls the views, especially from kids who are WAY too online these days.
>>42943550>Yeah combat isn't endingAnd yet, they still did not kill a lot of characters when they had the chance to.>Yes it is, it's literally just a bigger dungeon. It's not. It's a small empty metal cage with no food, bed or anything guarded by a giant dog. Real prisons tend to have beds, food and at least the most basic comfort. It is by no means a normal prison. And there was no need to put Cozy in a supermax because she has no physical or magical abilities to justify it. There was no need for Tartarus in general.>they all could have said no. No, Discord literally demanded that they work together, and at one point even used his magic to overpower them. He held all the cards at that time.And by your logic, Starlight had a chance when she was ousted from Our Town. She could have simply taken that "chance" and decided not to come back. Discord could have used the chances afforded to him to not do anything horrible, but he still chose too after being released. Tempest could have stopped and betrayed Storm King at any moment, but she only did when she was the one in trouble. Simply saying that they should have just changed on their own isn't a fair argument when no one ever attempted to reform them.And even assuming they said no, Discord would have either forced them back into it, tell the Main 6 that they are out there and dangerous, or just be fugitives anyway because at no point was there ever a sign that they would be getting any second chances because again, besides Chrysalis one time, they were never offered a second chance. They were given no reason or incentive to change. They were simply brought together to do more evil, encouraged into it while being treated like shit. Literally no reformed villain would have even thought of changing under those circumstances.>He's also not normal, he feeds and exists on a concept that is always activeStill no reason for him to be randomly aware nor is it any proof that the trio aren't,>Sensory deprivation is a rather normal thing It's not, being forced into one spot nonconsentually while having all your senses taken is torture.>that image I doubt her expression would suddenly change in the split second she's losing stone.>Discord was fine By your logic, he's not normal.>It's a when as already shown and proven by DiscordDiscord was willingly released for rehabilitation, something that was never implied for the trio. "Together forever" line and whatnot.>No, she convinced idiots into listing and agreeing as proven in the end.By her own words she enslaved them. She got them there through lies and deceit.
>>42943566>concrete agreement and reason for her even being evilStill not justification.>after everyone else abandoned her simply because her horn was goneShe could have gone to any pony city and tried asking for doctors for help instead of running out away.>Again, she had a just reason to even follow that pathShe saw that Storm King was enslaving ponies, she helped him do it and would have continued to do it. Makes her just as bad as every other major villain.>didn't believe her because the notion that ONE pony's friendship predicated on the whole balance of the world sounds batshit insane Twilight showed her clear proof after explaining it, and Equestria is a place that's already batshit insane, They were fighting through time. Compared to that, superheros are relatively mundane in that world. It still stands that she still needed to be convinced to stop after that, and after she saw that she herself would be screwed over if she won.>Cozy glow wanted and intended to steal from the entire world and then on her second go rule It and destroy whatever and whoever stood in the away; one literally intends to destroy the world while the other literally was Trixie tier and wanted to just mess with Twilight in spite. Cozy wanted to have more friends then Twilight and become the empress of friendship. She, did not want to destroy the world because dead ponies cannot be her friends/servents. She probably did not know or think of any long term negative consequences of her actions because if there were any, it would be detrimental to her plan, and unlike Starlight, she was never shown an evil dark future thing. Cozy, did not want to destroy the world nor did she come close to it. Starlight's actions would have resulted in a desolate wasteland, Cozy's in magicless ponies, who can still survive without magic.
>>42943566>He did it with the intention that they'd feel a bit threatening and mainly only serve as an ego boost for his friendsHe did it for a prank. He deliberately wanted to ruin Twilight's coronation for that and hardly did anything to be a proper safety nest considering he literally gave them the information about the bell in the first place. He let Sombra run free to mind control ponies, potentially hurt Flurry, a baby, and cause emotional stress to his friends for no reason. His actions towards the trio, the way he treated them, how he set them up for failure and how he brought back Sombra just to have him killed off was insanely cruel, on par with any non-reformed villain. It was an evil act.>Trixie didTrixie was hardly a villain except for that one episode, which happened because she did not change on her own after her first one.>Discord didNo he didn't, he was released specifically to be reformed and had Fluttershy directly helping him despite him doing nothing to earn it. His first action upon being released was to mock the Main 6 for doing so.>Tempest didNo, she only switched sides after Storm King betrayed her.>Stygian did Not a villain in the first place.>Chrysalis literally just tried to make an evil 6 while nobody even knew she existed and she could have just been living in her own freedom. Not one of them, even in freedom, decided to NOT try to be a dickhead even when confronted by the M6 or even given a chance to surrender or think before they acted.Only Chrysalis was given a chance to surrender while Cozy and Tirek were never offered any second chances or given any help. Even if we look at Chrysalis, her actions were very similar to Starlight's. She was ousted, ran instead of changing, decided to come back for revenge. Except Starlight got another second chance while Chrysalis didn't.
>>42943610>And yet, they still did not kill a lot of characters when they had the chance to.They didn't get the chance, the moment everyone else came around they smoke screened the fuck out of the 3 and all of them were left blind firing and trying to swing randomly to clear them out to try and finish the M6 first because if they keep standing they are a threat, the main threat even, ignoring them isn't an option.>It's not. It's a small empty metal cage with no food, bed or anything guarded by a giant dog.Clearly not given none of them starve or complain of such so now you're literally just making shit up. They are clearly fed given cozy, a filly, was there for a good while and was still beyond healthy and only discontent with her plan's failure rather than her living situation.>No, Discord literally demanded that they work together, and at one point even used his magic to overpower them. He held all the cards at that time.He kept them on a leash, in line to make sure it seemed real for them, its called acting and again they could have just kept refusing as if they don't do anything, he literally couldn't make the plan go anywhere and wasn't gonna erase or kill any of them either. The most he could do was threaten them as by the situation he made, he made it seem like they were necessary meaning killing them even in the act wasn't an option logically. Not to mention how Sombra himself just up and leaves and he does nothing to stop him anyway and Sombra could have also just gone into hiding or even snitched. They had literally nothing to lose by doing the same.>Starlight had a chance when she was ousted from Our Town. She didn't learn anything but also, she did take the chance. Instead of just doing another town she just went back into hiding and even acted like a functional citizens as far as things were concerned before she came back solely for revenge against Twilight, revenge that was solely about making Twilight not have her friends and nothing more. Literally a petty crime at most since even in her first trips back she never tries to harm Rainbow either just stop her from winning by holding her in place or even just tripping her minorly mid air in a way she can recover. Not once do her intended actions extend to killing anyone, just ruining 1 friendship and once shown the ripple effects in time just once she gives up on it and is given a final talk.>Still no reason for him to be randomly aware nor is it any proof that the trio aren't,yes there is, he's a literal embodiment while they are literally just normal people. He ain't on the same level as anyone them.>It's not, being forced into one spot nonconsentually while having all your senses taken is torture.Dr. Stone disagrees and it's literally about being stone for a decades even.>I doubtDiscord, when freed the second time, is capable of movement in his freed areas and the moment his head is free he is immediate on his movements>not normalMy exact point, he's an exception
>>42943610>By her own words she enslaved them. She got them there through lies and deceit.That's called Coercion, they all agreed to willingly side with her before the M6 ever came. They agreed to have their cutie marks removed because they thought she was right until she was shown to be a hypocrite. That isn't enslavement, it's called trickery. No one was forced there, they all had to agree in the first place.>Discord was willingly released for rehabilitationBecause Fluttershy saw a core detail you ignore with him: he's not really all that evil. Discord is a crude prankster but he's not out for blood or even ruling the world. The literal timeline where he wins is just him toying with the princesses for however long he wants in a world that makes no sense. He's essentially a man child who just needed someone to reign him in. None of the Trio are that, Chrysalis is a narcissist who has an ego bigger than anything and even when her people change she refuses, Tirek just fucking hates everyone and wants to rule no matter what and will kill and destroy as he deems fit, Cozy glow is someone who learned nothing and fundamentally rejects friendship's principals by purposefully misunderstanding them even after getting caught and put in jail. 2 whole timelines exist to show just how bad the other two are and that's before Cozy was even a thing.>>42943612>Still not justification.Compared to the other 3, it is. She made an agreement and honored it.>She could have gone to any pony city and tried asking for doctors for help instead of running out away.Cept she was a filly and ponies already let her down, while the show's writing is ass, it's the same as starlight. The people she trusted failed her entirely, trust is fragile.>Twilight showed her clear proof after explaining itYou keep saying this as if she saw more than one of the timelines, Starlight only saw 1 timeline outcome, the last one. The rest were only seen by Twilight and Spike because Starlight never let that lone point in time for the rainboom. Starlight was shown a total of 1 timeline and gave up then and there. Words were cheap especially since it was from someone she hated in the first place but the very first piece of evidence and she backed out on her plan because the outcome was unreasonable. >Cozy wanted to have more friends then Twilight and become the empress of friendshipher siding with the people that tried to kill millions to more says that her understanding was that some people would be killed flat out and she still committed with them to stand by their sides. Her version of empress was a dictatorships where no one else gets to have any form of magic or joy. If it was just a matter of wanting to steal friends then she'd have never joined in such a plan to rule the world or attack so many ponies. She was willing to get rid of any who resisted along with the other two and had no reservations when they came to kill the M6 or had to fight everyone else.
>>42943616>He did it for a prank.He openly says otherwise, he says it was all to ego boost cause he wanted them to raise their spirits. He openly admits he had nothing but good intentions behind what he did but that he just didn't think it out fully. Quite literally, he had not any intentions of evil behind his actions and says as much when confronted after Sombra, when the issue got explained he felt bad because he realized how bad the plan actually was. You are just making shit up about him now to try and change how those 3 were at fault for what happened after they stole his magic and still tried to take over the world.>Trixie was hardly a villain except for that one episode, which happened because she did not change on her own after her first one.She was a rival and a villain on the level of starlight as she only came back with a grudge to settle, yet she was actually a bit worse as she enslaved ponyville to prove a point. While yes she was brain washed the second time, when confronted in both she admits her issue and, for as few as it's brought up, Trixie DID still try to help with the ursa minor even when she knew she was out matched and was honest that she was a fraud.>No he didn't, he did, his second release still predicated on him learning to not be a dickhead which was entirely on him in which he does show off empathy on his own despite how he is. He made an effort the moment he realized his pranks weren't doing it for someone who genuinely cared.>No, she only switched sides after Storm King betrayed her.Yes, she held to her end of their agreement and he didn't so she went right into making the right call. She could have just bailed on the M6 or even let twilight die but instead she makes amends and is willing to die doing the right thing. The final call and action is made by her of her own volition.>Not a villain in the first place.He was, he became the pony of shadow's willingly over a misunderstanding and then, since the pillars didn't hear him out, fought them and got them all stranded for years in limbo. When he returned, he was just like tempest and coerced on his path of evil as the pony of shadows until another path and the truth came to light.>Only Chrysalis was given a chance to surrender while Cozy and Tirek were never offered any second chances or given any help.Tirek literally didn't even hold to his word with Discord, his ally, the guy was a dickhead and even after going to jail, NOT even statued, he still held that evil in his heart. Chrysalis was given a chance because she initially just wanted better for her people but when they changed and she refused there was a point where she long since passed there being any form of just reason and she's just spiteful and hateful of the world. Cozy glow is the same but younger.Redemption can only come if the party is willing or at least expresses some real regret, none of the 3 do this even in Tartarus.
>>42943531nta but you can clearly see there is also a bit of jealousy in it, they can't comprehend how some random guy came and become the talk of their gay little fandom out of nowhere when most of them can't barely make it.
>>42943645>They didn't get the chance, They did. Tirek had the Pillars beaten. Could have stepped on them. He didn't. Cozy could have simply killed those guards she beat on the way to the throne room. She didn't. They could have killed Discord for deceiving them. They didn't. There were plenty of moments when they had a chance to go for the kill, but simply did not.>you're literally just making shit upNot really. It is as exactly as I described it.>They are clearly fed I doubt it. No one noticed that Cozy and Tirek were missing for months.>He kept them on a leashHe literally sent them to get the bell without actually supervising it. He also left them alone for long periods of time. Whenever he was with them, we was mostly making demands and intimidating them. >Sombra himself just up and leaves and he does nothing to stop him anyway Yea, he did nothing to stop Sombra. He brought him back just to let him go hurt ponies. Imagine if Sombra decided to kill Flurry or something. That would have partially been Discord's fault.>Instead of just doing another town she just went back into hiding and even acted like a functional citizens as far as things were concerned She literally spent an entire season spying on Twilight. She had a chance to be better and not do bad things anymore, but she didn't. She also stole a magical scroll. I guess by that logic, Chrysalis wasn't doing anything wrong by trying to get revenge on the Main 6 while hiding out because Starlight also did that.>just ruining 1 friendship and once shown the ripple effects in time just once she gives up on it and is given a final talk.Yea, she saw how screwed she was if she had won, but still needed further convincing.>he's a literal embodiment while they are literally just normal people. Again, no proof that petrification consciousness works any differently.>Dr. Stone disagrees Who?>Discord, when freed the second timeShe was not even fully petrified and it was a still comic. Why would her expression suddenly change?
>>42943662>they all agreed to willingly side with her before the M6 ever cameWhich was achieved through lies. Same way cults get members. And the Main 6 weren't exactly willing participants.>That isn't enslavementStarlight's own words.>Because Fluttershy saw a core detail you ignore with him: he's not really all that evil. There was literally nothing that showed he wasn't evil before Fluttershy took the job.>Discord is a crude prankster but he's not out for blood or even ruling the world. He was described as having a heart as cold as stone in his debut episode, he almost sent a pony to another dimension out of jealousy and chased children with a dangerous animal. His actions go beyond basic pranks at that point. He was an evil villain, and before Keep Calm, Fluttershy had no reason to assume otherwise.>The literal timeline where he wins is just him toying with the princesses for however long he wants in a world that makes no senseHe took over the world, changed it to a way ponies didn't like (notice the lack of any other ponies) and was tormenting Celestia and Luna for his own amusement.>man child Being a manchild is not a better excuse then being an acutual child.>Chrysalis is a narcissist who has an ego bigger than anything and even when her people change she refusesNot a worse ego then Discord's.>Tirek just fucking hates everyone and wants to rule no matter what and will kill and destroy as he deems fitConsidering he spend over 1000 years in a small cage without anyone even remotely attempting to reform him, that does make sense. Also, he never really killed anyone. He actually did honor his agreement with Twilight and let her friends go after getting her magic, despite the fact that he could just kill them at that point.>Cozy glow is someone who learned nothing and fundamentally rejects friendship's principals by purposefully misunderstanding them even after getting caught and put in jail. Cozy misunderstood her lessons and no one bothered to correct her on that, after which she was paired up with 2 older villains to further push her into that villain mindset.Really, none of those three were worse then Discord, and unlike him, showed some potential for change, even a little, while Discord had nothing to show for potentially changing for better in Return of Harmony.>Starlight only saw 1 timeline outcome, the last oneAn outcome for a spell she researched and cast. She was there. She saw it. I'm sorry, but what exactly else was she supposed to think after that? What did she think the time portals actually did? It was clear cut evidence of what she was dong, and it wasn't enough to convince her.>Words were cheap Yea, but she had more then words at that point, she had an entire time line to see.
>>42943662>her siding with the people that tried to kill millions to more No? Tirek can only drain magic from the living and Chrysalis wanted to rule. Neither of those two were out for mass murder as their end goal. And Cozy was forced to work with them.>her understanding was that some people would be killed flat out and she still committed with them to stand by their sidesNot really. Her endgoal was to rule, not kill everyone.>Her version of empress was a dictatorshipsAssuming she wouldn't make measures to keep her subjects happy. Sure, it would suck, but its a far cry from attempted mass murder as many often describe her. She simply misunderstood her lessons, and wanted to get more friends then Twilight.>She was willing to get rid of any who resisted along with the other two Yea, after being egged on to work with them for months. Maybe if she was given proper therapy>>42943672 instead of that, she might have ended up better.
>>42943672>he says it was all to ego boost cause he wanted them to raise their spiritsAn ego boost that if worked, would have ruined Twilight's coronation, maybe traumatize some ponies and still put them in danger.>he had nothing but good intentions behind what he did but that he just didn't think it out fullyBy his own ego, he endangered Equestria by not thinking of his actions. And threatening the trio, at one point using physical force against them and ultimately setting them up for failure and possibly further punishment even if the plan had gone smoothly is hardly "good intentions".>You are just making shit up about him now to try and change how those 3 were at fault for what happened after they stole his magic and still tried to take over the world.No, I am not. The entire season 9 finale conflict only happened because of him. It was his own doing, and this was AFTER he was given chance after chance despite proving to be dangerous. Meanwhile someone like Cozy wasn't even given a single second chance, let alone a third or fourth like what he got. It's especially egregious from a supposedly reformed villain.>She was a rival and a villain on the level of starlight She was just a random stage magician and hardly on Starlight's level. She never actually did anything wrong the first time besides being arrogant. The main 6 did not have to answer her challenges and could have simply left the show as it was.>Trixie DID still try to help with the ursa minor Yea, as I said, she was not really a villain.>his second release still predicated on him learning to not be a dickhead Which he never really learned if future episodes are anything to go by.>which was entirely on him in which he does show off empathy on his own despite how he isAnd he only got that far because he was actually given a second chance and assigned Fluttershy for the sole purpose of helping him, something which the trio never received.>He made an effort the moment he realized his pranks weren't doing it for someone who genuinely cared.And regressed back later. Again, only got that far because he was given a chance and help.>he became the pony of shadow's willingly over a misunderstanding and thenKey word being a misunderstanding. He did not go with the intention of doing bad things, only to help the Pillars.
>>42943672>Tirek literally didn't even hold to his word with DiscordBecause Discord is totally trustworthy.>and even after going to jail, NOT even statued, he still held that evil in his heartWhy would being held in a small empty cage and being obviously malnourished for a 1000 years change him? Being stoned didn't change Discord. Why didn't Discord just stop being evil after he escaped?>Chrysalis was given a chance because she initially just wanted better for her people but when they changed and she refused Kind of like how Starlight decided to not take any potential second chances after being ousted as a liar and instead going on a hate-feuled revenge plot after running away, kind of like Chrysalis.>Cozy glow is the same but younger.Cozy was never given a second chance or any attempt to help her see the error of her ways. Not once.>Redemption can only come if the party is willing or at least expresses some real regret, none of the 3 do this even in Tartarus.And no reformed villain in MLP came to any regret on their own without any help. They all needed convincing or straight up getting betrayed to start to accept changing and none of them showed any signs of regret beforehand. Where was Discord's regret after being stoned for so long? It wasn't there in his debut episodes. Where was Starlight's after she ran away? Where was Tempest's while she was working for Storm King?At least with Cozy, there was a bit of regret in her debut episode when she saw the CMC getting kicked out, at least they had Frenemies. Its not much, but its more then what any other reformed villain had prior to their reformations.
>>42943689When I see posts like that: >It's not funny! How can you find it funny if it's so problematic?!I wonder what's actually funny for these people. All I've seen from Dandy's fandom is probably 100% times more explicit than whatever Tamers has done so far. And worst, done by literal children or a nipon artist with a niche fetish.
Jesus Christ do not ever mention Cozy Glow on a future thread. I have no idea what that character has done to stir this much debate. Stop flooding you fucks.
>>42943689also more seethe
>>42943708Soulvestor the molester...
>>42943701All of the jokes outside of Tamers and 4Chan ARE a thousand times worse. Don’t forget that MAP joke shit that originated from some random TikTok user. They were laughing at that and even parodying it. They only act like saints when it comes to the characters they like.Also, like that Anon said, it reads like jealousy. Tamers gets to be creative and has support no matter what he does. The people who hate him create gets little to none of that. They either aren’t funny or they aren’t genuine and just following the crowd think that would get their name out. They genuinely cannot fathom any of it.
>>42943703In my defense, he started it, but in that case, I won't reply again.It's just I feel oddly protective of her at times, so shit like that anon's reply makes my typing fingers go crazy.
>>42943719It's okay anon, we all have or fixations. Just try to not go ballistic next time. This ain't a FiM debate thread, here we're talking about the REAL canon.
>>42943692>They did.They didn't, same way they didn't manage even once to kill the girls even when they were split up. They are all the same in having massive egos and always only want to kill when it's literally after instilling total loss. They didn't bother with discord or the ones they put in cells because the prime threat is always the M6, leaving them to their own devices always leads to losing. It's why even in the ambush, all they are concerned with as main targets are the M6. everyone else comes after. Discord has no powers, he's not an important threat, same with the pillars and princesses. The powers were gone so they weren't as pressing a matter as the M6, the drive of ego is always high.>Not really.Literally not once are any of what you said implied or said by anyone in the show. Literally, it's just cages with monsters and even Tirek's whole plan was trapping them there forever until realizing that they'd be with HIM forever. As in the only issue was they'd annoy him, even Pinkie flat out points out the place is barely dangerous because it really isn't. It's just a big jail and nothing more. Quite liberally, before Cozy, Tirek was even the only person there who could even speak as he was the only sentient one there and his biggest issue was boredom.>No one noticed that Cozy and Tirek were missing for months.Because it's jail and because Discord is literally the one to take them. Not to mention, how would anyone notice as no other normal people go there in the first place. Again, if they weren't fed, there would have been complaints from at minimum Cozy who's a filly, but not even Tirek or the animals insist there is any form of starvation or otherwise. Just boredom.>He literally sent them to get the bell without actually supervising it.That would be because he assumed they'd actually follow his plan like Sombra or would be too stupid to actually work together. Since their purpose was to lose to the 6 anyway in his eyes, he didn't think they'd betray him.>Yea, he did nothing to stop Sombra. He could have stopped him at any point but Sombra was never going to kill anyone and the only ones he 'tried' to hurt were the 6, everyone else got brainwashed and was left unharmed since they couldn't fight back. Hell, he actually is a ruler, so all he did was imprison Cadance and her family and then just try to rule when he went back there. Since the 6 didn't attack anyone harshly, the most damage people got was a headache from the brainwashing. Discord literally takes a dive just to let the girls solve the issue and then admitting he's was just acting. He could have just removed him when he wanted or stoned him. He could do anything with his power if he saw the situation go out of control as Sombra is literally dog shit.>She literally spent an entire season spying on Twilight.yeah, she had a lone target and didn't even intent to kill her, just ruin her friendship since Twi ruined her town. Eye for an eye.
>>42943718Like a bucket of crabs. You love to see it. >Tamers gets to be creative and has support no matter what he does.Any artist would KILL for this privilege.
>>42943703>I have no idea what that character has done to stir this much debate. Her tight filly pussy got anons acting unwise.
>>42943692>Again, no proof that petrification consciousness works any differently.What proof do you have that they'd be aware? We have an image of one breaking out and she is none the wiser in her expression. So as the only evidence given, Discord is shown to be an exception of awareness. If she actually had awareness, her eye at minimum would move yet the choice is to just show the shell falling away but her not moving even an inch as that pony looks on unconcerned because she's got noting going on to make him worry.>>42943694>Which was achieved through lies. This doesn't really change anything, if you fall for a lie that is on you. There is no legal crime for someone accepting the terms of a really fucking stupid deal of their own volition. It's like saying you didn't read the terms of service and then when their cost comes you act surprised, the law will still side with the fact that you agreed to those terms as you are an adult and reading those terms is on you. Getting lied to is not a crime in anyway, if someone believes that lie, that is also on them. That isn't being enslaved, it's being coerced and then accepting which those ponies did and if Starlight DIDN'T keep her cutiemark they'd have still stuck with her ideas, the sole issue was she was a hypocrite who kept her mark but made them all give up theirs. They did believe in equality but were reminded of individuality and saw she didn't even conform like she made them.>Own wordsYou are taking a scene out of context. She isn't even talking about her town in the episode she says this; her town was full of only willing ponies. Not to mention the only other one to say that is Pinkie after maude brings up she told starlight about the stone to remove cutie marks.>There was literally nothing that showed he wasn't evil before Fluttershy took the job.except, even in his main appearance, all he wanted was chaos. He didn't want to kill people, didn't want to rule the world, just wanted the world to not make sense. Everyone was free to live just in his crazy version of the world. His only evil aspect was trying to force it or make it the standard. Something that his victory timeline even shows that all he's gonna do is goof off and nothing more. Something clearly different from the rest where either it's endless war, Dictatorships from Luna, literally the end of times with Tirek and Chrysalis, and just the end of everything from unknown. He is shown to be the least evil thing out there as all he does is pull the crudest of pranks. He's not gonna even kill people or enslave the world, just make the world chaotic, that is it and after that just dick around in relatively harmless ways. Nothing about him is all that actually villainous no matter how you look at his track record. he's nothing like the other three and this is a core reason he was so easy to redeem, he's just childish at WORST. Even during guys night when he realized he's being pitied, his punishment was something that was fun
>>42943694>An outcome for a spell she researched and cast.She didn't research it, she only completed it and the spell itself only sent her back. She, along with literally everyone even Twilight herself, have never experienced actual time travel because even she only got it to properly work using the map. She saw no timelines, what she got to see was Twilight going through other portals and then showing up back, possibly immediately akin to how Aku witnessed the end of Samurai Jack where one second he's gone the next he's back but given Twilight always appears back to when they first left only Twilight is seeing any actual movement in Time while she appears right back where she originally dropped in. Starlight experiences nothing and sees nothing until she's actually dragged in, something even Twilight acknowledges as part of why she drags starlight in. You're insisting that she knows how time travel works when even the guy who made the spell didn't complete it and the one time Twilight tried it is just sent her back a week in a predefined timeloop of their normal timeline where she warns herself and the past Twi will eventually follow the same exact path, a grandfather paradox. What starlight managed was one of a kind and no one studies how time works in MLP so alternate timeline, branches, or even paradoxes are not something even she knows. her logic was going back just meant they wouldn't be friends and that was the end. A simple theoretic unimportant removal. twilight literally has to explain the butterfly effect to her and even she calls BS on it being ego because it sounds unrealistic to someone who's never heard it.>No?They tried to kill all 6, there's no debate on the fact Cozy willingly added and had no second thoughts on them doing it. She was going to kill them and if the rest kept fight back, they'd get the same. Literal timelines exist to show what the other two would do with their power.>Not really. Her endgoal was to rule, not kill everyone.She stood with the rest and the rest made what they were gonna do clear, They were willing to kill the M6, no second thoughts or holding back when they finally had them all together. It was gonna be the end. Not even just imprisonment, just obliteration with a blast. There's no real debate on what they were gonna do.>therapyShe was given a literal run down on what she did wrong, she was in time out for a month, she was then freed for months by discord and not once did she stop to change her mindset. Instead resolving to make the other two work with her to take over the world and DURING that time even attempting to betray both and even threatening them to kneel to her might. No amount of therapy is changing someone who literally has an ego like that as its' the same kind of ego as Chrysalis herself and why there's no further point in trying to change her. Only brainwashing would fix them and that isn't the thing of the 6.
godfuckingdammit
>>42943755Good morning, Twi
>>42943697>An ego boost that if workedAs said, he admits he messed up when they understand his actions after sombra and flat out even tells them about the other 3 they were even out with their own plan. He ratted on them the moment his plan was going south, he came clean at the first moment it seemed his intentions were getting missed. If it worked he was happy, when it was failing he knew he did wrong and didn't resist punishment, he tried to explain his logic but was given a fair check on the situation and scolded.>By his own egoNo, by his pursuit of good intentions. It was never about his ego, it was about making the girls feel hyped up, when that part failed the plain in his eyes was a bomb and he already felt bad when they all showed it was having the adverse effect. Again, he could have ended it any time he wanted with his powers but he wanted the girls to save the day to remind themselves how strong their friendship truly is. He admits he did wrong the moment they point out the issues with the plan.>She was just a random stage magician and hardly on Starlight's level. She's a villain in her own right, she and starlight are literally just both liars and when their plans were harmed they wanted a runback with Twilight. Both's core trait is lies ruined by Twilight(more like snips and snails since had they done nothing she'd have been fine anyway); it's that simple. She WAS a villain for a time especially after the Ponyville subjication; Both she and Starlight do the town capture though Trixie's was through force so she's on the far more evil side while brainwashed as Starlight just tricked them and they agreed.Mind you starlight HAS a brainwashing and enslaving spell but it's used at a period after her reform and is used primarily after she got left in charge since she wanted efficiency and then realized it was wrong. Which even shows the difference between enslaving given the town kept their free will otherwise even the girls talking wouldn't have changed their minds.>Key word being a misunderstanding.yeah, that was Starlight & tempest as well. They were under a different understanding of their situation; Starlight held a grudge against cutie marks since Starburst bailed on her after he got his and Tempest lost faith & trust in ponies after they failed to help her after her horn got broken trying to get back the ball of her friends and said friends betrayed her. Both are friendship misunderstandings with critical results on the path.
>>42943699>Because Discord is totally trustworthy.He is on occasion and even showed his core loyalty for the time leaving no reason to do him so dirty. He literally helped him boost up>Why would being held in a small empty cage and being obviously malnourished for a 1000 years change him?He isn't malnourished, he's just lazy. We all know he's old as fuck without magic so he ain't staring he's just eons fucking old and it shows on his true body. He's never claiming hunger because flat out he isn't hungry like that, just old and wrinkly like the pillars. Not to mention, that's a matter of reflection time he goes on just using to be spiteful, look over to Stygian who did reflect on what went wrong but in reflection realized the pillars were not gonna hear him out but when given someone who was finally willing to listen he was very open about what happened. The full truth.>Kind of like how Starlight decided to not take any potential second chances after being ousted as a liar and instead going on a hate-feuled revenge plot after running away, kind of like Chrysalis.As already state, Starlight's revenge was Trixie tier, simply petty against just one pony and only intended to ruin a friendship. No true violence upon even Twilight herself or filly Dash.>And no reformed villain in MLP came to any regret on their own without any help.Except, Chrysalis rejected her people's change when it happened and even tried to fight them and swore revenge. She rejected redemption while the rest of the changelings went with it. Tirek literally tried to kill them all and the next time they meet him he reveals he planned to trap them for all eternity from within Tartarus, he had no sympthy or redeeming factors. Cozy glow, not once, expressed regret over trying to remove all magic. Then, once freed and even given power, she sides with two of the worst evils in the world. She was deemed a lost cause as her offenses out weight reason, she's a kid and shouldn't be doing all of that in the first place.They failed to write any real story for her so it's not like you can say she desires it as she has no redeeming qualities on her own, being a kid isn't good enough to cut slack when evil children can exist and she was one of em. She literally needed to do anything but constantly try to keep pumping up team take over the world, even when they were about to be stoned she was only sorry she lost.They had chances, mainly Chrysalis, but the other two have crimes too great and one is a child manipulator. Another time in the cozy thread we could discuss otherwise, if she had parents and a backstory she'd be much better off but they didn't give her that.
>>42943755sow the retardreap the retardwind
>>4294359That's a lot faster than the last episodeAs it should, this one was a lot better.Not that the dandy Christmas was bad but just a little underwhelming
How many years until Tamers says fuck it and starts doing straight up nsfw? Would you still support him if that were the case?
>>42943900>How many years until Tamers says fuck it and starts doing straight up nsfw?he won't>>42943900he's refused hundreds of dollars from me for trying to get him to do just that so yes
>>42943900Pretty sure he is safer into the softcore porn for fujos terriotry besides it requires even less effort for it.
>>42943901Maybe he just doesn't fuck with whatever you requested. But if he had full control over it and was paid three times more than what he's getting now there's no way of knowing what might happen. I have my doubts too but honestly this man is just very unpredictable.
>>42943900Never. knows that what makes his stuff work so well accepted by all groups is that it's edgy but never quite crosses that line
>>42943900I don't think he'll ever do straight up NSFW. Tamers is man of culture that knows the teasing and fanservice is actually sexier than just making porn.
>>42943900only if it's sleet and dingo making love
>>42943907There's multiple nsfw artists getting over 10k$ on Patreon alone. He wouldn't have the need to make longer videos anymore. And since he can produce stuff fast he could become a powerhouse if he really wanted.
NEXT EPISODE IS APPLEPACKAGE AGAINAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>42943900If that day were to come I'll just have to stop supporting em. It just wouldn't be the same.
>>42943924They could just be a side plot or cameo
>>42943932So what would the main plot be about? Big Mac and Clean Sweep?
>>42943923I mean people who didn't made NSFW before and then went for it later usually never end like that. VG Cats as one good example.
>>42943935>Clean Sweep episode get shafted by ApplePackage againlol if that happen, just pretend he doesn't even exist at this point
>>42943936In the case of Tamers is diferent. He's already making softcore stuff anyways. Whether he decides to take a leap of faith later on who knows.
>>42943939Softcore and hardcore are not the same. Teasing and pinups are way more fun and interesting to do than full on sex. Trust me.
>>42943939Anon is right. If tamers went full NSFW it would basically ruin everything. Those teases and suggestive shots are also played for laughs, turning those into a porno would kill the joke.Furthermore, we can't actually say for certain what tamers is into and his depictions could end up just being repulsive (like VGcats, a very good comparison by anon actually)
>>42943708fucking wypipo
>>42943916this. You look at bartleby in the old ass bardonic art and hes always got his thing covered with a leaf with some of the pubes poking over. Man knows
>>42943994that s p r e a d
>>42943994>>42944034they're made for each other...
I wish there were masculine gays in Tamers vids
>>42943935I'm mostly just huffing copium here. I don't hate them but I am bit tired of them but also, frankly, where do you even go with them at this point? Their last episode is as finale as it gets for their arc, to have them to through another emo drama breakup arc would just be creatively bankrupt from tamers12345 at this point. The only justification is if the plot involves Parcel Core and he gets a Flawless-style redemption, which would be even more creatively bankrupt but at least something forward.I really just hope they only appear as a gag and don't get started with any new drama arcs; like for fucks sake, let some other characters have some time in spotlight. I'm as tired of ApplePackage as I became of Soarburn
>>42944043you were warned half a year ago that all of the gay stallion videos would just be them learning the same lesson over and over because gay stallions irl dont ever learn from their mistakes. it's your fault that you're here
>>42944042Ehem
>>42944043Maybe it will be a SoL episode like the Soarin and Braeburn Wedding
>>42944041Not canon.
which is more likelycanon tamers12345 nsfworcanon flawrinos?
>>42944042Is Dingo and Bartleby a joke to you?
>>42944070which dandies are those?
>>42944043>With Care Package and Apple SplitParcelCore is in gay loser jail rn. But I think it could be funny to see how yaoi Tamers handles a redemption arc like that. Even if I don't really get into the whole ApplePackage thing, Parcelcore is a living walking Vivziepop parody character and I find that hilarious. Very curious to see how this plays out. >Clean SweepOnly thing I ask, need, please I beg. Just spit his origin story already. We still don't know who cut his head, who stitched him and why does that matter because so far no character gives a damn about him being a catpony thing. I care about this more than the whole romance shit going on with Big Mac.
>>42944069If the monkey paw curls maybe both at the same time.
>>42944069>"ha ha, what are we going to do on the bed, flawless? hello? flawless?? fractured???"
>>42944064Need....More FlawrinosMore.....fwalinos....
>>42943994>Those teases and suggestive shots are also played for laughs, turning those into a porno would kill the joke....joke?
>>42944121Yeah, it's a bit. Like when someone goes "man I TOTALLY clopped to this pic!!" they're just making a joke and playing into the general public's assumptions that people actually whacked off to pastel ponies. No one's actually stroking to stallions or meatbeating to mares.
>>42944005This actually made me laugh so hard goddang
>>42942741Something cute.
>>42944115I have shit stored from a while ago that I never finished or I don't know what to do with it.
>>42944005Nobody tell this dude about the Mindick "Every Breath You Take" AMV.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AE0kW5oKbUY
>>42944126I've masturbated to the Glimmy ball pit fartsnuff scene like 10 times.
>>42944154oh you really just had that memorized huh>>42944157yeah he very clearly said no oneand your no one
>>42944154Banger
>>42944154What is the relation with Mindick?
>>42944100>the 30 minute flawrinos sex scene
>>42944148*wipes sweat from brow*Holy............
>>42944195Watch the video
I just love his autism starehttps://x.com/TheTamers12345/status/2010019767831409060?s=20
>>42944161Shut up bitch.
>>42943708Those kids wouldn't survive a day on Newgrounds in 2004
>>42944005>>42944136Traumatizing youngsters is an honored tradition.
>>42944218Cozy Glow made me a degenerate
>>42944148dudeplease
>>42944220Tamers master plan of dividing that gay little fandom
>>42944218Zamn Cozy Glow looks like that in the show?No wonder she has a followingShe's, like, made to be corrected
>>42944237ROFLMAOThese dumbass kids lol
>>42944249>cozy and flurry being menaces to society>genuinely hate each other but come to understand each otherSeason 10 mlp would've been lit.
>>42944235Please what?
If Cozy Glow gets introduced, would it be on the Yuri or Yaoi timeline
>>42944255If Cozy does ever get into Tamers she should be a filly Glimmy takes on as her protege and teach her how to harness her flatulent powers as well as how to murder stallions and shit.
>>42944274She'll be banished to the realm of filly goo~
>>42944259gibe de cl boss
>>42944285ussyfuck im retarded
>>42944136Just searched "tamers" on twitter and I have never seen so many horrible takes going in so many directions
>>42944287I am having a good laugh at they witch hunting one another when the man himself gets away unscratched
>>42944136Tamers mispelling "what" made it all accidentally funnier
>>42944237How valiant and noble to protect a…sentient fictitious pumpkin from a…ghost knight.
>>42944310So valiant
>>42944352If he had farted at that exact moment Gourdy would've rotted and died.
>>42944069Not doing any episodes for a year is the most likely of the options given
>>42944357pumpkins thrive on phosphorous
>>42944411outdated because no dandy on the compy
They're at it
>>42944411Tf are you saying the oldfags wouldn't even care about any MLP shit even less a crackship>>42944415We need an updated version
>>42944414H2S kills plants, kills everything really. And it's super sexy.
I DON'T GIVE A FUCK WHAT KIDS ON TWITTER ARE DOINGSTOP STALKING CHILDREN AND POST MARES FARTING
>>42944419Oh boy, Channel 4 here we go
>>42944428
>>42944419Wait, that's the usual obssesed guy who constantly spam. Guess he tried to change the avatar and name to not get attention
>>42944419>>42944450
>>42944453there's no way that's not a troll account with that @
Who's the bigger fool, the fool, or the fools who follow him on Twitter?
>>42944453The Carlos/Huffy of Dandy.
Do you guys think if the channel gets taken down they'll use the Dandy's one?
>>42944465Yes? Why is this a question?
>>42944469Because now I wonder if they'll split the content given the oportunity. Or would they keep uploading MLP on that one too.
Next channel deletion will be the time I finally make a patreon account ... surely
>>42944470>if they'll split the content given the opportunity.They already tried that and both realized how stupid they were being.
>>42944470Don't know. My bet is in nope since segregating it just proved to be a hindrance
You make one video with michael jackson kidnapping a kid on Christmas and no one bats and eye...But make a video where a ghost from the 1600s is struggling to comprehend modern day norms and everyone loses their minds...
>>42944516One is age restricted so the alphas can't watch, the other ain't.
>>42944419Tamers will be fine. If a human reviewer ever does watch it, the worst that could happen is it being age restricted. Besides the toilet humor and swearing It's actually a very clean 29 minutes, even for tamers
>>42944516Truth is nobody can get him for anything. Nobody knows the man. It'll always be a joke until we can see who's beyond the mask.
>>42944536I know Tamers and his brother irl, but they don't know me. I knew better than to interrupt them at the Carlos O'Kelly's we happen to frequent together.
>>42944136myfuckingsides
>>42944580Are you Meyna pretending to be offended for ragebait updoots, or ungula hoping we'll call you "based" and "tamerspilled"?
>>42944585Neither, Im just a random fag
>>42944588Go to /b/ then if you want to /b/ a random fag, fag.
>>42944599I'll be a fag wherever I want bitch
>>42944607How about you be a fag in my ass, then? How about that, queer?
>>42944618
Glimmy sexi
Retard wife Derpy
*CRUNCH* *CRUNCH* *CRUNCH* *CRUNCH* *CRUNCH* *CRUNCH* *CRUNCH* *CRUNCH* *CRUNCH* *CRUNCH* *CRUNCH* *CRUNCH*
>>42944706fat fuck
>>42944706fuck fat
>>42944709>>42944712hivemind
>>42944706
>>42944713
>>42944715>og flawrinos artist animationWish this guy made more
>>42944729dink and amreposter motivated flawrinosposter to outlet his need for drawing... and that's good enough for me
>>42944729Wait, holy shit that's him? Wow he has improved a lot.
>>42944742Yep. This is the first image of them I saw.I like this one more than my version. Its way crazier.
>>42944742>>42944754He's just... too powerful...
>>42944758So true...
>calls out yuriships as being gay as fuck>first response to the daughter of a lesbian couple and the son of a gay couple is to make them straightWHEREWHERE DOES HE GET THIS STRENGTH?!
>>42944786>"Nothing is impossible for the person unwilling to listen to reason." - Some anon here
>>42944754i just noticed the hyper veins in arinos's wing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8mGBaXPlri8Calling it now, Tamers will use this song in the future.
>>42944822Yes. He needs to reclaim the lesbian anthem.
>>42944813>canon
>>42944807How should I expand on this idea? Old ass drawing needs a remake goddang.
>>42944834She huffs his clothes and then complains about his smell as she puts them on for pajamas. Bonus panel that's much less detailed is her sniffing it discretely while they watch TV together.
>>42944837It's just a matter of time
>>42944843>Bonus panel that's much less detailed is her sniffing it discretely while they watch TV together.this this this
>>42944843THIS THIS THIS THIS
>6 days for more applepackage
>>42944866fuck off ginger we're talking about mares
>>42944870https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DjTWYtyqyQQWe're gonna be talking about the TAMERSWe'll be talking about the FAGGOTSDo you think that's funny anon? Do you find it ammusing that we'll be talking about POOPY BUTTS?Yes and we are also gonna be talking about the PISS AND SHITGAY AND STRAIGHT SEXUAL INTERCOURSETHE CRACKSHIPSTHE SCHIZO THEORIESAnd...And we will definitely be spending a lot of time talking about FARTS
>>42944909EbinShould've mentioned pedos or lolicons or whatever gets this generation's panties in a twist.
>>42944786i wheezed
>>42944981what does the N stand for
>>42945052noob
i miss when tamers' comedy could be done in 4 panels using stills from his animationsnow he just does meme faces and fart soundsits like haber mlp all over again
>>42945071Fart sounds are funny doebeit
>>42942741Show stopper? Something cute with him, maybe. I liked your Christmas one.
Is the anon that made this still around? It would be bitchin' to have another one that's updated.
>>42945179I am, but I'm as dispassionate about this as I am about making amre shitpaints and I haven't watched anything since Outbreak, so I can't offer up any funny comments related to Garten of Banban or whatever this Roblox shit is.
>>42945179marisimp is probably the most based
>>42945179>MAS avengerThe BEEF has been quelled. Strike this from the record.
>>42945179>listens to the doom 32x ostlel
Little nigga is having another meltie
>>42945206How do I convince Hiroshimoot to make "posting twitter screenshots" a bannable offense?
>>42945195Understandable. I might give it a shot myself in a couple months just to see if things change a little. But I doubt my comments would be as snappy as yours.
>>42945210It is what it is. My recommendation is to find your square, and poke fun at yourself first before you can get snappy with others. Then, be generous with the square that hates you the most and give them something they'll be happy about. That's what I did with where I landed on my own chart, and with the person who's been most outspoken against me ever since they first appeared on the scene.
>>42945218I like how ya captured me btw >"Lesbians, racism, /mlpol/? I just wanna draw!"That pretty much sums it up lol It's good to know when to laugh at yourself. The world is a cruel place so last we can do is just laugh about it sometimes. Things shouldn't be all serious all the time.So I think ya nailed it there.
>>42945179i thought the soarburn justifier 16 paragraphs thing was a bit but looking at this thread wtf is this dudes major malfunction writing a book like that
>>42945225Apple Split IRL, GlimmyGod, Rarichad, and I think Chrysalis Kang and Filly-gooposter said the same, and I think I got universal agreement for how our favorite soiteen and KFags were depicted as well. Either I must have a knack for reading people on a basic level, or everyone is just really open about themselves online.
>>42945251I think ya have a knack for writing funny stuff in general. All the amre stuff clicked with me so much because of it. I find myself having lots of trouble coming up with something funny to write. Why do ya even think I started redrawing other people's stuff? Most vocal people tend to be easier to pick on too I supose. It surprises me sometimes how long some people can hold a grudge. KFags are still on denial.
>>42945179I feel honored being on that list
>>42945263Thanks, I think you have a knack for improving both artwork and people's moods.
>>42945270Thanks lad... Hope ya come around once in a while cuz I'm definitely going to redraw that last drawing ya did.
>>42945276I wouldn't want anyone else to take a crack at it but you. But first redraw >>42944807 with my suggestion >>42944843 since that's what the people really want.
>>42945282Wait thats yours? Goddammit how do ya come up with such gold dude. Alright! Maybe for next Flawrinos friday.
>>42945285How did you git gud at drawing? Everyone has a talent. Even (You) reading this.
>>42945297:^) !
>>429453078^3 !
>>42945208Fucker hasn't even looked at this site twice since he bought it (once for when it was hacked) and rapeape doesn't give a singular fuck to the point that I'm hesitant to even mention him for fear of being banned, there is no one to complain to and even fewer who would give a shit
>>42945218>spoilersbut the ones who got criticized the hardest are panamanian basedteen and broken fanboy
This shit is getting dangerously close to discord server personality drama gossip
>>42945368the fingering scene don't have much milk to milk and kids seething on xitter don't have much milk either so we are in the pits here bro
>>42945370
>>42945368Not really, it was close during the early kiwi seething era when they were trying desperate to pin guilt into someone other than tamers from shifting his stories.>>42945370Dandy fandom is desperate for attention, they cancel someone each monday over whatever arbitrary thing they think about, if anything they will have some new bitch to witch hunt in a few days.
>>42945179I can save her.
>>42945581Are you a woman? She wouldn't want the help of a moid
>>42945205It's not too far from the truth to be honest.
>>42945360wish we could nuke retards who drama monger. actual lowlife degenerates like glimmygod who do nothing but stir shit.
>>42945690I thought glimmyfren was into eproctophilia, not coprophilia?
>>42945699I find it annoying we give twittertards any attention.
>>42945728Perpetual generals require constant fuel, and even dross ignites.
