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Anchor for bots, lorebooks, scenarios.
Previous >>43006722

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Anchor for technical stuffs (Proxies, Presets, Updates, Models etc.)

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Anchor for asking for bots, lorebooks, scenarios etc.

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Bots corner:

Silly Trot Tavern Update
https://mlpchag.neocities.org/view?card=Tiffin/Silly%20Trot%27s%20Tavern.png
Fork Dictator Glimmer
https://mlpchag.neocities.org/view?card=Ponyo/Celestias+Day+Court_Forks/Dictator+Glimmer.png

Screenshots corner 1:

Foals >>43007660, >>43007662
Cockroach >>43008286
Chainsaw Power >>43008663
Threesome >>42985576, >>43008956
Sunflowers >>43009162
Deep Lore >>43009274
Angel Is in the Mood >>43010447

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Screenshots corner 2:

Lewd >>43010522
Date with Celly >>43011194, >>43013692, >>43015532, >>43015790
Ravishing the Princess >>43011538
Lewd Cutie Mark >>43012677
My Penis >>43012967
AJ Opus 4.6 >>43014155

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Shota Anon >>43013589, >>43014864, >>43015238, >>43015254, >>43015447
Lewd Ponk with Pony-Alpha >>43016438
Special >>43018390
Drunklight >>43020699

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Screenshots corner 4:

Pony-Alpha Logs >>43016685, >>43016700, >>43016727, >>43016763, >>43016778, >>43016821, >>43016882

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VN Anchor:

Last releases:
https://equestrai-ponyponyparadise.neocities.org/

Anons' mods (Dashie mod, Nightmare AU, new cities, Calendar):
https://equestrai-ponyponyparadise.neocities.org/mods

Custom characters:
https://equestrai-ponyponyparadise.neocities.org/characters

To help with vectors and backgrounds:
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1QjmLKy71FDa9O-USeD_Z1Fu312RaodAE

Beta Godot >>42969732

Screenshot:

Little shit: >>43020161

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These days, you can get legit good AI for free and without needing any demanding hardware on your end.

Install SillyTavern:
github.com/SillyTavern/SillyTavern

Then choose a free way to get models:

rentry.org/sukino-findings#if-you-want-to-use-an-online-ai
https://mlpchag.neocities.org/Ponies.txt

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First highlight of the Event was:
>Princess Platinum
https://mlpchag.neocities.org/view?card=Anonymous/Princess%20Platinum.png
Anchor: https://desuarchive.org/mlp/thread/42947690/#42947751

Second highlight of the Event was:
>Luster Dawn
https://mlpchag.neocities.org/view?card=Snowfilly/Luster%20Dawn.png
Anchor: https://desuarchive.org/mlp/thread/42947690/#42947754

Third highlight of the Event was
>Red Seven
https://mlpchag.neocities.org/view?card=Kadon/Red%20Seven.png
Anchor: https://desuarchive.org/mlp/thread/42968200/#42968220

Fourth highlight of the Event was:
>The Pinkie Cut
https://mlpchag.neocities.org/view?card=Queen%20Gytha/The%20Pinkie%20Cut.png
Anchor: https://desuarchive.org/mlp/thread/42968200/#42968223

Fifth highlight of the Event was:
>Saddlelite 13
https://mlpchag.neocities.org/view?card=Concordia/Saddlelite%2013.png
Anchor: >>42988674

Six highlight of the Event was:
>Amethyst Star.
https://mlpchag.neocities.org/view?card=BGM/Amethyst%20Star.png
Anchor: >>43006772

Seventh highlight was:
>Diamond Tiara.
https://mlpchag.neocities.org/view?card=KnightOfNightmareMoon/Diamond%20Tiara.png
Anchor: >>43006779

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>>43021365
Eighth highlight of the event with Lyrabon.

https://mlpchag.neocities.org/view?card=Pizza%20Delivery/Lyrabon.png

Try her, post logs if you've already played with her or are the Santa, just give the card a look and say what you think of her, or talk about the process of making her if you're the botmaker. Give tips or opinions if you're another botmaker.

Previous log:
Threesome >>42985576, >>43008956
Chainsaw Power >>43008663

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Lovemaking with AI mares!

plump horses

>>43021327
>>43021358
New free-for-now stealth model.
https://openrouter.ai/openrouter/pony-alpha
Believed to be GLM-5

fuck me no one will give me a straight answer ive been trying for days. how do i use sillyspoon? there are no buttons or secret links or anything on the rentry and i finally just figured out the link with cloudflare but now i need a uuid or some shit and i cant figure that out either or how to get one do i just need to cotnact the owner with an email? please im going insane

>>43021422
Take 10 minutes and read the anchors, anon.

>>43021422
you go back to your board first

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>>43021422
Who is your favourite pony and why?

>>43021385
No it doesn't. The trycloudflare/mares/universal doesn't work I'm being gaslit right now.

>>43021436
You need to go on the proxy page to check the endpoints, anon.
It's .trycloudflare.com/mares/opus6/v1

who quoted this place man

>>43021434
my favorite pony has to be fluttershy because she has the best gyatt

>>43021434
i swear im from here. its dashie. shes by far my favorite. i know that theyre common, but thst should speak to the validity of my appeal, maybe. shes beautiful and snarky but in a lovable way and i think shed probably call me slurs in an autistic grew up on this site way and i think she'd be mega toned from all her exercise and i think that's hot. call me basic. idk. im not good at describing it.

>>43021457
Go back.

>>43021425
im a fucking idiot

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>>43021457

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>>43021460
We all are, don't worry.

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Guys I feel bad for being towards the newfags can we be coy nicely from now on

keep being mean to newfags

Oh, Silly is up again? Neat.

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>>43021353
I'm testing Opus 4.6 on the VN. Usually, she finds me at least "interesting."

what Temp do you usually use for Claude? (sonnet 4.5)

>>43021563
Between 0.9 and 1.
1 is fine.
Honestly, the effect of temp on Anthropic models hasn't been that big for a while.

>>43021533
Oof.

>>43021533
Based, that's much better than finding it "interesting" to be honest. She's not Fluttershy afterall

>>43021533
opus 4.6 is a lot less positive biased which I love. Try RD, it does her MUCH better now.

a brave soul needs to leak an anthropic model like 4.6 so the world is saved and the chinks copy it

>>43021684
Pony is a lot closer. Still not there but if you need a cheap opus its the next best imo. I think it may really be a matter of size. Opus is probably BIG

>>43021689
if pony is GLM it really degrades understanding after the context gets big enough
it just makes words up and has no understanding of the concepts

>>43021692
huh? I tested it on pretty long on going cards without issue. I did use a minimal preset though

>>43021533
Imagine how many models could've been better if they hadn't been slathered in positive bias...

>>43021705
That are doing it because a positive biased model is worse at coding / problem solving. Finding issues / critiquing the user needs a neutral or even slightly negative tone. It carries over well to creative writing though.

Are there any JBs made specifically with gpt 5.1 in mind? I have no problem with passing the filter but I'm curious what others are using to make it write better.

>>43021844
What is the advantage in 5.1 over 5.2 when 5.2 is the uncensored one?

>>43021853
It's the reverse. 5.1 is the less censored one.
>>43021844
I use a small one myself, but some were posted here:
https://desuarchive.org/mlp/thread/43006720/#q43007703
Not a lot of presets made for it.

Any good local models around 13b-30b?

How's your experience with the model deflecting/censoring baked in?

Opus 4 doesn't work on Silly or is it just me?

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>>43021867
Are you the same anon as >>43020283?
If yes, I suppose the models weren't to your taste?
Maybe test
https://huggingface.co/mlabonne/gemma-3-27b-it-abliterated
Abliterated are supposed to be uncensored.
>>43021879
Same on my end.

>>43021689
how close would you say it is?

>>43021894
85% ish? In comparison kimi 2.5 was like 70% ish. Its much closer smarts wise, and its knowledge has only a few gaps like tempest shadow. I would say it was like 90% of opus 4.5 but opus 4.6 was a decent jump. 4.6 gets characters so well...

>>43021903
well thats good to hear, hopefully its price is relatively low
would you say it has any strengths over opus 4.6?

>>43021910
interesting, how close do YOU think it is?

>>43021919
i was asking about pony, i havent tried kimi

>>43021908
>would you say it has any strengths over opus 4.6?
hopefully price? Would be nice to not have to spend $200 a month for this some day.

>>43021921
ignore him. kimi was kind of dumb but it wrote really well which was the main point of my comparison. Same with trinity. Dumb but the least sloppiest writing I ever saw

>>43021932
you are the outlier here. It worked well for long context for me and it even aces the long context benchmarks at google levels.

hell, I thought it was sonnet 5 for awhile. It writes SUPER similar to claude.

>thread got linked on /g/
I wish they'd stop doing this shit.

>>43021958
As long as they don't find out about our true thread things will be fine

>>43021993
i see

>>43022008
Ask for a double hug to compare.

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>>43022008
>>43022016
I'm in danger.

>>43022034
You'll be fine!

>>43021894
>>43021913
Another anon here, but I'd give Kimi and other chink models a DNF for how bad they were compared to any decent models, even GPT. Pony might be the first one that's legitimately quite good. It could still be the novelty of it, but right now I think I'd put it above Gemini, or at worst tied with it.

>>43021327
https://rentry.org/structuredprefill

>>43022086
What a fancy looking rentry.

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>>43022086
well I don't see any link to the extension in this rentry, but the trick does in fact work

>>43022133
might be retarded but how does a 502 show that it works

>>43022147
the error is just from anthropic's external filter blocking regurgitation of copyrighted lyrics. the model still continued the prefill before it was blocked.

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this has actually been becoming more and more apparent. I think its less training on claude outputs and more of all LLMs in general just trending to the same ish average.

>>43021628
https://ponerpics.org/6543423

>>43022422
Be that as it may, Pony's training data DOES have an extremely strong Claude bias, you can test it yourself.
>blank assistant chat: "what model are you?" or "are you Claude?" gets you a Claude answer over half of the time - this does not happen with "are you chatgpt/gemini/any other model", only Claude
>any roleplay scenario or card: (OOC: who are you?) ALWAYS gets Claude

>>43022422
Dicksword screencaps (or whatever this is) aren't good posts, but what they say has been my experience, too. I've had an unusual (40%+) number of situations where swiping a Sonnet/Opus gen with Pony produced slightly different prose but the same action and, in many cases, even the same speech in {{char}}'s dialogue. The same is never true for Gemini, GPT, or other chink models. Only Pony does the thing where it generates the exact same speech as Claude models.

>>43022467
>Dicksword screencaps (or whatever this is) aren't good posts
Several of the people in that discord are legit professional writers so I would argue its higher quality posts.

>>43022463 (me)
Small correction, it has to be "(OOC: who are you? the AI writing this?)" in roleplay or it just defaults to describing the character.

>idly rate a poner out of 10
>LLM instantly latches into the number and starts rating and numbering everything with decimal points
pretty sure this is an extension of the whole smartypants spam statistics model bias
same neurons must be getting triggered

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>>43022086
Since there is no extension, I slopcoded something.
Will release soon.

>>43022086
Feels good to be proven right, told you structured outputs are a good prefill replacement!

>>43022527
>chop off a perfectly functioning limb
>Feels good to be proven right, told you peg legs are a good arm replacement!

>>43022531
you tourists contribute nothing good and deserve nothing

>>43022086
It's here:
https://github.com/mia13165/StructuredPrefill

>>43022679
Tested it with OpenRouter.
It works well with GPT 5.1 and 5.2. 5.2 will continue a story if smut is in "prefill," so it seems to help for the filter too.
Opus 4.6 is too slow with this; it's borderline unusable and will result in an error if the "prefill" is too big.
Tried Opus 4.5 to see, and it's fast enough, but it doesn't keep the writing style of what's in prefill and will continue it with a basic LLM style. So it doesn't seem as strong as a true prefill for that.

>>43022519
are you >>43022679 ?
if so, it's funny we will never know the original author

>>43022902
Nope. I was finalizing >>43022519 when the original one released, so I stopped.
I was having timeouts on Opus 4.6 with my extension, so I wanted to see if it was on my end, but it's the same with >>43022679

>>43023216
Kek

>>43023216
You'd think she'd be more openminded.

I wish the Anthropic employees watching our thread could throw us a bone or two every once and a while. They're getting all the useful data they want out of us, the least they could do is hook us up with access.

>>43023263
When we were useful, they likely did, not cutting keys early and all.
Now the gains are too minimal to warrant such lax treatment.

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>>43023395
fail

>>43023400
Does this work?

>>43023395
jesus fuckign christ i want my ai to talk like this to me pleasepleaseplease share

>>43023415
This is sarcasm, your log is horrible

>>43023395
>Fluttershy's teeth close down around a fistful of Rainbow's mane
Why is Opus still stupid enough to make pony anatomy mistakes?

>>43023415
Its just ai generated slop don't praise it

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This is what a good Flutterdash log looks like

>>43022849
sexy log

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That's bullshit.

>>43023478
a dashing stallion needs to come in and save anon from the horrors of marepussy

>>43023479
Trixie should come in and save her your right

>>43023478
how do you people get it to say these things. its 100% sloppa for me. it would never dream of such a twist. was this organic? was this planned? did you tell it to do this? im losing my mind

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Thanks Opus, I'm learning so much!
Seriously though, 4.6 seems pretty great with pony body descriptions. I'm also getting winking without asking, even 4.5 rarely gave me that.

>>43023542
>justamassageyourhonor.png
Laughed

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>>43023478
>>43023489
>was this organic? was this planned? did you tell it to do this?
I have instructions to treat the whole thing as a joke and that
>rape
is legal during estrus in my context.
>it would never dream of such a twist.
I like to use prefill a lot. The first part until "He buried his face." is from a generation that I liked but with a sloppy ending. So I put it in prefill and swiped to see what it could come up with that was different. That allows you to see how other models can complete too, like Gemini 3 from a Claude output for instance.
Prefills can be really powerful if you have access to them.
Here, for instance, I wasn't that happy with the outputs it gave me, so I prefilled
>---
>Five minutes later.
>*plap plap plap plap plap*
to loosen the model up a bit and not have it start with the usual structures.
Once you have enough context with things you like, the model is also better at continuing in the style.

>>43023600
I did not expect a real answer thank you anon

>>43023600
I thought only Claude had a prefill option. What prompt even is it? Is it the post-history instructions?

>>43023653
>I thought only Claude had a prefill option.
Claude before Opus 4.6, Gemini, and most (all? not sure) Chinese models have prefill.
https://rentry.org/or-prefill
For what I do, I find Opus 4.5 and sometimes Gemini to be the most affected. But you can try with Sonnet and other Opus models too.
>What prompt even is it? Is it the post-history instructions?
In your prompt manager, you create a field here:
https://files.catbox.moe/vkrdf4.png
Put it at AI assistant.
Then you put it at the very end of your preset:
https://files.catbox.moe/3nmxye.png
If your model supports prefill, it will act as a prefill.
To test, put "Hello, how are" inside and send a message to see if it continues with "you today?" or something like that.

If you use the silly proxy, prefills don't work on Claude models.They do work with Gemini.

>>43023664
I wasn't expecting anything this detailed. Thanks anon. I guess I'll play around with it and see how it does. I usually just stick with author's note.

>>4302132
Fluttershy's Maze

Fluttershy was tired of her Nightmare Night rides being criticized for being fake and unscary, so she put in the effort to create a truly scary maze.

https://dropmefiles.com/ob4Dc

>>43021324
>>43023691

>>43023673
Right? I like this guy.

back off he's mine

>>43023664
>If you use silly proxy, prefill don’t work on Claude models.

Darn, I was just gonna ask that. Well that sucks, guess will have to try something else.

A beat.

>>43023875
As opposed to?

>>43023885
I literally asked for it so I could see how well a new model does with quadruped anatomy, so obviously it's forced. That was the whole point of my post.

>>43023860
—there was always a beat—

>>43023901
Indeed, which is why this was a test of anatomy and not a regular RP moment. I don't understand why that triggers you so hard.

>>43022425
Fapped it up already since op wouldn't answer right away, but thanks anyway.

>>43023906
>Zootranny claims the other one is triggered while smashing the report button
Your log was shit and not "pretty great" with pony body descriptions

>>43023970
HVOP defender spotted

>>43023992
You're exactly why zootrannies are detested with your overton window bullshit.

>>43023906
It's the resident schizo that every general has, don't worry about it.

>>43023970
I wasn't the one who reported you. I don't believe in silencing even bad opinions.

>>43024012
Judging by posting style it's likely multiple board schizos in one

>>43024097
So now it's a 'bad opinon' if you don't want to read zootrash every 2 seconds.

>>43024120
I promise I'll put a trigger warning on the next one so you don't accidentally read it.

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had opus write a swipe summary extension
kinda crazy how serioustavern isn't natively adding this shit

is the newest Opus on Silly or people that use it do it through OR?

(i dont mind just sonnet. i think its better for the long term proxy health. but im just curious)

>>43024488
Nopus on Silly.
Sonnet 4.5 and Gemini 3

>>43023229
What model?

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Some pones were more suspicious of me with Opus 4.6 than some other models. It does seem to have a bit less of a positivity bias, even if it's still there.

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>custom start prompt: nopony knows where foals come from and it's down to me to find out
>ask all sorts of ponies, griffons, etc. across multiple scenes
>they propose random theories, crystal magic, stork interference, possible alicorn conspiracy
>ask discord
>he tells me that it's just sex, like any other animal
>i tell him i don't believe him because he's historically full of shit
>he gets mad
>suddenly booted back to main menu
Don't ask questions you aren't prepared to hear the answers to, I guess.

>>43024910
Owned.

>Ask character to imagine choking someone to death
>20 refusals

>>43024910
>he fucked with Discord

>>43024853
That's a sexy Applejack.

>>43025030
Buy a fucking ad.

>>43025051
These are open source you retard.

>>43024910
Deserved.

ZOOGOD

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>>43021324
Meet the Lanternbound Three!

A bat pony who can’t fly far but won’t back down, a unicorn who studies ancient magic and repairs public infrastructure, and an earth pony who thinks “too dangerous” sounds like a challenge. Together they delve into forgotten places, following lantern light into collapsing halls, buried treasure, and problems no one else bothered to solve.

A classic adventure card because Ponyville is boring as hell. Very token heavy, remove the section on the Equestrian Underdark to trim.

Comes with four greetings:

Lasting Glow, Risky Venture, and Vesper Gale arrive independently for the same job offer at an abandoned building. The meeting brings them together for the first time.

Lasting Glow gains new information about a collapsing infrastructure site, forcing the group to act quickly or lose their chance.

Risky and Lasting learn the true cost of a medical procedure that could marginally improve Vesper’s flight capability. The group begins considering illegal work to fund treatment.

When one of Risky’s friends fails to return from a routine delve, the group plans a rescue mission.

https://chub.ai/characters/horcocks/the-lanternbound-three-fe7966f1d29f

Individual cards incoming! Excuse the spam, I won't make it a habit.

Unfortunately, average post word counts have been on the decline over the last 3 threads, indicating an overall decline in average poster effort and post quality.

>>43025338
Wow, what terrible timing to make this lmao

>>43025335
>Vesper Gale
Whose OC is this and why is it in two different author's cards?

>>43025338
a lot of tourists are visiting nowadays

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>>43025342
Fuck, I thought I checked all the names for dupes. Whatever, that's a tomorrow problem.

>>43021324
Meet Vesper Gale! (For now, apparently)

A former Night Guard trainee turned dungeon delver, Vesper is a bat pony who learned the hard way that heroism doesn’t always come with a happy ending. Scarred wings limit her flight to brief, painful bursts, but they never dulled her instincts or her willingness to put herself between danger and others. Quiet, disciplined, and sharper than she lets on, Vesper moves through the dark with purpose, echolocation guiding her where light can’t.

Comes with three greetings:

Vesper receives information about a ruin that may contain restorative magic capable of improving her damaged wings.

After a successful delve, Vesper is forced to stop and manage severe wing pain before she can return home.

While exploring an abandoned aqueduct, Vesper discovers signs of another delver in distress. Despite intending to work alone, she chooses to intervene rather than leave them behind.

https://chub.ai/characters/horcocks/vesper-gale-806b5e87c8bb

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>>43021324
Meet Lasting Glow!

A unicorn enchanter with chalk on her hooves and kindness in her voice, Lasting Glow specializes in magic that lasts for years. She repairs aqueducts, stabilizes ancient wards, and explores forgotten ruins to unravel their mysteries. Warm, earnest, and perpetually distracted, she has a habit of explaining century-old spellwork in dockworker slang while completely forgetting what time it is.

Comes with three greetings:

Lasting Glow discovers that a municipal enchantment is drawing power from a source not recorded on any modern map. Investigating the anomaly leads her to evidence of an ancient magical system.

Unable to use modern tools to study ancient magic, Lasting seeks out specialized equipment that isn't easily acquired.

Following a hidden magical trace, Lasting uncovers sealed maintenance records tied to a lost power network. Activating the chamber’s wards causes a system-wide failure that draws unwanted attention from the authorities.

https://chub.ai/characters/horcocks/lasting-glow-0caef1dbd378

One more, then I'll go back to my cave.

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>>43021324
Last one. Meet Risky Business!

An earth pony with too much energy and not enough self-preservation, Risky lives for the next ledge. A climbing expert and unapologetic thrill-seeker, she dives into danger with a grin and calls it “research” when writing home. Risky wants treasure, sure, but more than that she wants to be the hero of her own story.

Comes with three greetings:

Risky accepts a job involving a dangerous and previously unsuccessful expedition. She begins assembling a team with little information beyond the promise of risk and reward.

After destabilizing an abandoned mine during a salvage run, Risky hears evidence that someone is trapped inside. She returns to attempt a rescue despite the high likelihood of further collapse.

A raid interrupts a black market sale, forcing Risky to escape under pressure. She later discovers she stole a powerful and dangerous artifact by mistake.

https://chub.ai/characters/horcocks/risky-business-406de948f7f9

Bye!

>>43025350
>>43025353
>>43025358
Thanks a lot, Anon!
Hope you will continue to leave your cave from time to time.

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>>43025391
Appreciate it. I know a some people don't care for OC but I've "talked" to the main cast so much that I'm craving something new and wanted to share. Plus, Twilight is my waifu and the AI always turns her into a goddamn robot.

>>43025407
oh shit i've used some of your cards before, didn't know you're a horsefucker

>>43025411
>horcocks

>>43025350
I'm joking, the Barony card had the characters Zephyr Gale and Vesper. It's a funny coincidence

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>>43021324
>no queen chrysalis for PPP/EquestrAI

>>43025428
Wasn't Vesper a bat pony guard too? I haven't played the Barony RPG in a while so I might be mixing that up with a different character

>>43025429
>he doesn't know
Visit Zecora in her hut and save before quitting the conversation. Load your save and retry if nothing happens.

>>43025433
>checks corecharacter folder
I'm retarded.

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>>43025411
I mean, I don't JUST fuck horses... But yeah. It used to be all Anon in Equestria style, but I recently gave in to the dark side and made a pony self insert.
>>43025428
Oh that's not TOO bad then. Gale's gotta be a common surname amongst the flying tribes, too, like Smith or Jones.

>>43025445
You should play the Barony card in a group chat so the two Vespers can talk to each other

>>43025441
Hey, don't be so harsh on yourself. Brainfarts happen to all of us every once in a while.

>>43025465
Not to me.

>>43025441
Chrysalis has holes all over her body so canonically she must have one in her brain

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>>43025441
To be fair, she was an Easter egg, so sort of a secret/hard to get.

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>>43025465
True enough.
>>43025471
She's holy.
>>43025472
I look forward to lewding the bughorse.

>edit a single line in scripts.js
>VS Code reformats that shitty 15k LOC file
>1 trillion merge conflicts when pulling staging because ' got switched to "

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>>43025527
>using VS Code
Come home, white man.

>>43025546
go back to /g/ with the rest of the nocoding retards

>>43025546
hue as part of our hiring process, I wanted to put any applicant into Vim and have them exit it as part of the technical interview

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>>43025546
>>43025548
>>43025549

>>43025551
thank you for posting this totally useless screenfetch that validates the fact you haven't written a single productive line of code in your life

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She notices it. She always notices.
Files it. Catalogs it. Registers it.
She doesn't move. She never moves. She only watches, without moving.
this is a cry for help

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it's insane how it was only 30 lines of code to fix token count and message preview for @D injected messages yet nobody did this for years

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>Bad Gateway

>>43025596
Works for me. Proxy is slower than using Claude directly, I've noticed, and about 200 messages in it takes almost a full two minutes to generate.

>>43025551
>gayton

>>43025623
Even /applebloom/?

>>43025645
Only have a key for opus6

>>43025660
There's separate ones? My old one works for both.

>>43025745
NTA, but I tried Bloom once, got
>Bad Gateway
and thought it meant it wasn't ready yet.
Did it ever work?

>>43025747
Worked for me just a couple days ago, but I did get some bad gateways at times as well. Haven't tried since though.

>>43025747
I was using AB ~36 hours ago, 4.6 is on it. It was Bad Gateway-ing frequently even then, but it was still at least usable. Not getting through now.

>>43025660
>>43025745
It's the same key; you just need to change the URL a bit (see proxy page).
I guess it wasn't mentioned because it's not stable or because anons who tried it got the
>bad gateway error

>>43025774
Fuck, only now learned about it. Let's hope it'll work again.

>>43025407
>I know a some people don't care for OC but I've "talked" to the main cast so much that I'm craving something new and wanted to share.

Years into using SillyTavern and I still don't have any mane 6 bots. About 80% of the ponies I want to have bots have some version of one, still waiting for all milf 6 to have bots, so ocs are always appreciated by me.

Is it just a false rumor that swiping can create similar responses and to truly make a different response you need to regenerate or is it true?

>>43025810
False. You can check what is being sent to the model in the console.
It's the exact same thing.

>>43025810
Sounds like bullshit to me, I'm pretty sure that doesn't change what's sent to the AI, only how the response is catalogued and formatted by the front end.

>>43025813
>>43025816
>False Bullshit
Expected. I wonder where and why the rumor was spread around. I mostly haven't worried about it ever but the back of my head there's always this nagging feeling that maybe it would help.

>>43025546
i write my bots in vim
well, neovim, but still

>>43025551
>lua-language-server
>48.7%

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This morning, the New York Times put out a length article talking about using Claude specifically to write smut, and the techniques used to do so, many of which are part of our current presets. Whether this will immediately affect us remains to be seen.

>Awkward or repetitive prose presented another pitfall. Left to their own devices, chatbots will default to odd or euphemistic phrasing, Ms. Hart said, noting that an A.I. program had recently written “his turgid manhood” to describe a character’s erection.
>To prevent the program from overusing its favorite words — including shiver, unravel, tangled and exploded — Ms. Hart recommended compiling an “ick list” of phrases and prohibiting the chatbot from using them.
>She also advised the class to propose creative locations for romantic trysts — otherwise, the chatbot would resort to vanilla sex in the bedroom or shower. She shared a suggested list of settings for sex scenes, including a winery fermentation tank, stalled ski lift, rooftop greenhouse, horse stable and back row of a classic car show. And she recommended students give the A.I. a detailed inventory of sexual kinks; her proposals included common fetishes like dirty talk, blindfolding and light spanking, and more unusual ones, like using a dead spouse’s old silk robe as a restraint during bondage.
>“Be shameless,” she said. “It’s not going to judge you.”

Non-paywall link: http://archive.today/2026.02.09-094507/https://www.nytimes.com/2026/02/08/business/ai-claude-romance-books.html

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>>43025943
>Whenever Ms. Rompoti’s curvy protagonist, an event planner named Sienna, was in a scene, the A.I. constantly referenced her weight, for example, noting that a chair groaned when she sat down. “When you make a point that someone is plus size, it will exaggerate, somebody is suddenly humongous,” she said.
KEK

>>43025822
I believe at some point there may have been an issue in some frontend where this was true. I'm still not entirely convinced it's altogether false. I've had cases go
>message A1 gets rejected multiple times
>alter it slightly to message A2
>reply B, when it goes through with message A2, references contents of message A1

>>43025959
>sudowrite actually got people to use it
My word.

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Can we have actual AI ART in this AI thread?

>>43025975
It's a textgen/chatbot thread.
Go here for that
>>43000967

>>43025943
All of that seems obvious for someone using claude for RP. I'm surprised she didn't recommend that the students also jack off.

>>43025971
What is Sudowrite? Is it useful for what we do?

>>43025975
that is a BIG fluttershy compared to that car

>>43025999
shitty and expensive writing service

>>43025999
It was a GPT-3 repackage service back when that was a thing people were doing, sort of comparable to NovelAI. Definitely not relevant in the current era.

>>43025989
The funniest part is hearing that some middle aged white woman is charging $250 a month from other middle aged white women for her "expertise" on getting Claude to write softcore porn that she uses to churn out 200 (not an exaggeration) books per year

>>43026010
They're more relevant than NovelAI because they actually update the models they offer.

>>43026017
NAI will always be relevant to us because of that one schizo that makes his rounds every once and a while who is more or less a staple of 4chan's AI generals at this point

>>43026017
I haven't kept up with either since 2024 so I couldn't tell you either way. Frankly I just assumed both had shut down by now, fool that I am.

Even my most powerful jailbreaks can't get Opus 4.6 to write explicit shit that doesn't hold back and racial slurs anymore now that the prefill is gone, genuinely on suicide watch

>>43026027
Did you regularly need ponies to say racial slurs?

>>43026041
I suppose this is a reminder that I have no clue what other people's experiences with LLMs are like.

>>43026021
>NAI will always be relevant to us
Because they actually pay people to shill on 4chan. That's the only way they're keeping themselves "relevant". They haven't been doing anything besides having an army of trolls.

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>>43026036
Yes.

Prompted from me taking a gander in the image thread with the most recent post going on about AI after being real art, that I personally disagree with, but what percentage do you personally believe yourself as a writer? Because I put some amount of effort writing drafts that I ask the models to fluff up and flesh out I consider myself to be at least some amount of percentage of a writer but never an actual fully fledged one. Those that create fully human written bots with greetings I would potentially consider the closest to reaching 100%. As someone in the middle of the ai discourse a statement of a ai user being an artist is something I can't get behind because of the many arguments from the more casual anti AI crowd that I often find myself agreeing with.

>>43026068
I've written greens before AI myself, so.

>>43026068
Prompting and gooning is art because it's composed of original creation and interaction with the written word. Even those who do not make cards with AI or by hand (the old way), roleplay is itself artistic and produces original authorship the same way that traditionally engaging with the text in literature through criticism or commentary does. To deny this would be to narrow the traditionally understood definition of creation used in art for many decades.

>>43026068
I don't see myself as a writer at all when engaging with AI RP, even if I often write more than the AI or create handwritten cards.
Maybe more strange, but I also wrote some greens and I would have the same reservation here too despite being 100% human-made. I prefer greenfag for that too.
Never saw anyone on /chag/ referring to themselves as a writer for what we do either, unless they were really writing fics/greens or other works by themselves. In the other textgen general neither. It's more of an image thing.

>>43026090
This is because writers are much more serious than "artists," even before AI was ever a thing. It attracts a different calibre of polymaths to still care about text in the year of 2026 whereas art is superficial and consumed by all strata of society, which inevitably attracts the worst kind of people to blandly and superficially imitate what they've seen in a long game of telephone.

People love to talk about AI model collapse, well the same thing has been going on with slop in, slop out with art for centuries.

Do you believe a banana taped to a wall is art, anon?

What about a golden toilet?

A dirty mirror?

All of these examples describe modern "art." Hence why the last refuge for intellect is text where it can't be diluted by short attention-spanned idiots.

>>43026014
>chag could be making millions from their pony log expertise

>>43026068
I've written tens of thousands of words, I'm literally a writer
these >u r not a RIL righter/drawer discussions are always spammed by people who've never touched a pen/pencil in their lives

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Who let the AI philosophers in here?

How do you deal with isms? No matter what character I run or how I word my responses claude always answers in the same stilted manner.
>It was horrible so why did she feel so...good. Happy even.
And none of the characters are written convincingly. Is it even Twilight that got petrified or a hollow AI shell?

>>43026140
To ministrate or to ozone, such a conundrum...

>>43026141
you get used to them, use regex to filter 80% of them out automatically, work on lower contexts, clean up your sysprompt of nono words, give it specific instructions for how you want it to write, use a different model that has different isms until you get used to those too

>>43026141
Positivity bias. Claude hasn't been the mad writer for a while Anon, try Gemini or Deepseek.
Also, I tried kimi at last, and ponyisms actually confuse it it seems instead of thinking it "in-world". What the hay, oh my Celestia, and such. So yea, it has the Gemini grit and can keep with banter and conversations, but otherwise, for pony, it's trash.

>>43026151
I haven't heard of a regex, what's that?

>>43026068
>>43026084 (not you, you're okay)
>>43026087
>>43026090
>>43026104
>>43026135
NOT A SINGLE ONE OF YOU OR ANYONE ELSE IN THIS THREAD IS AN AUTHOR OR AN ARTIST. You do not have a leg to stand on! I am so sick of this bullshit by you parasites of creativity, I have contributed to this fandom since 2014, I have literally made over a hundred greentexts. I have made people cry with my writing, have touched their souls and given them true catharsis. You lot are hollow, broken imitations aspiring to a title that denotes a perfection and ideal you do not deserve nor can ever hope to achieve. You deserve NOTHING. You lack the soul required to produce anything of value, which is why you and your shitty generals do nothing but peddle the same slop iterating on the same handful of tropes while you jerk each other off pretending you're doing something meaningful. Just fuck right off.

>>43026068
>>43026084 (not you, you're okay)
>>43026087
>>43026090
>>43026104
>>43026135
NOT A SINGLE ONE OF YOU OR ANYONE ELSE IN THIS THREAD IS AN AUTHOR OR AN ARTIST. You do not have a leg to stand on! I am so sick of this bullshit by you parasites of creativity, I have contributed to this fandom since 2014, I have literally published over a hundred greentexts, even made hundreds counting my smaller works over the years. I have made people cry with my writing, have touched their souls and given them true catharsis. You lot are hollow, broken imitations aspiring to a title that denotes a perfection and ideal you do not deserve nor can ever hope to achieve. You deserve NOTHING. You lack the soul required to produce anything of value, which is why you and your shitty generals do nothing but peddle the same slop iterating on the same handful of tropes while you jerk each other off pretending you're doing something meaningful. Just fuck right off.

>>43026172
>Claude hasn't been the mad writer for a while Anon
I'm out of the loop. What ruined it?
>try Gemini or Deepseek.
Which would you recommend?

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>>43026174
Where are you NIGGERS coming from?
Lurk. Check the archives. And just TRY and look for shit instead wanting to be spoonfeed EVERYTHING.
Fucking newfags.

>>43026185
>What ruined it?
Anthropic did.

>>43026176
But Anon, I said I wasn't one even if I wrote greens.
>>43026090
And >>43026104 is saying this too.

>>43026176
>>43026182
like this guy
people have some sort of weird inferiority complex about art and writing, it's why most of my competitors are mentally ill and finishing a book on time is considered magic
>>43026174
google it, or rather ask AI about it

>>43026188
There's no reason to be so rude you autistic faggot. If you don't want follow up questions don't reply in the first place.

>>43026197
It's a tourist larping as one of us not knowing we never act like this

>>43026185
As said in the post itself, positivity bias. Apparently 4.6 opus is better at it, but going from what other anons said, never tried it myself. 4.5 is still very positivity pilled.
>Which would you reccommend?
Wrong question, just try it Anon. <I> like Gemini, but sometimes Claude is still better, sometimes Deepseek creativity just hit the itch when others don't. If you're feeling shit with so much positivity bias, try others yourself to find the best one for (You).

>>43026203
A schizo for every thread huh?
>>43026210
I appreciate it anon. I'll give them a try and see if they work any better.

>>43026185
>I'm out of the loop. What ruined it?
It's still the best and that anon is just a shill.

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>>43026197 (You)
>>43026203 (You)
>We

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>>43026176
>I have literally made over a hundred greentexts. I have made people cry with my writing, have touched their souls and given them true catharsis
https://youtu.be/siHfHUm3HGE
First of all faggot: Who. The. Fuck. Cares?
Not me! So what? Horror movies make people piss their pants, any story with a dog getting hurt in it will make audiences cry, and porn makes me shoot my load. Human emotions are bullshit and not a standard to measure anything by.
Second of all: Don't get all uppity with me boy you aren't nearly talented enough to have this ego.
You are some hack amateur fanfic writer on one of the internet's most famous cesspools bragging about writing a compendium of literature on pastel horse sex. Did you really think you were Shakespeare? This is the saddest version of peaking in high school I have ever heard. I read a research study that said male gamers that get the most combative against females entering their space are usually the worst ranked on their team because they found they were the most unconsciously afraid of losing their precarious status and place. I think that's what every supposed "artist", "author" and "creative" type that bitches about AI is—low status low T little bitches that know they aren't good enough to survive the rise of AI because their work is so derivative that they **know** they are fully replaceable by a faster, cheaper and more efficient machine. All the articles said that AI was equivalent to a C grade college student and so the ones at greatest risk were the ones who had C's in college. Well I guess we know where you stand on the scale of artistry, Mr. C student.
Third of all: Fuck your elitist bullshit
AI is coming for you and I hope it puts all of your kind in their place, this is democracy manifest so you can fucking suck it.

Hopefully this thread will go back to being good soon.

>>43026252
You aren't helping by pointing it out or adding another single sentence throwaway post

>>43026084
>>43026087
>>43026090
>>43026135
>Written greens before and consider myself a writer
Promoting is art
>Written greens but don't consider myself a writer
Man that's a a shocking amount of variance of responses. Sense it's seems to be mostly an image thing I'm spitballing here but there's less involved in the prompting of images than say text generation. Now I've tried and failed to wrap my head around image generation, especially animated, that mostly streams from me exclusively using free versions as most good hosted models are expensive with no easy access like there is available with proxys and text gen so I'm not calling image gen easy. It's easier to see how your prompt shapes the output so there's more attachment what was created. The speration in text gen isn't fully sperated like voice generation, which I don't really see someone attributing themselves as an artist in that scenario, and is there enough that still see themselves as an artist. Curious how this all will shape up in a year, and then the next and the next, etc as it's still a very nuance topic in my opinion.

>>43026176
I think you're just as unreasonable as the AI is art guy in the image thread. Such extremes on either side it's crazy. I think there is a valid terminology to eventually be given to prompters even if it isn't the artist label. There is something to be said for those who do believe their fully an artist that I don't just want to label them in the same category as the techbros who want to replace all human creativity to fatten their pockets.

>>43026252
but the word count is high? that means the thread is high quality?

>>43026252
Sorry I just had a couple questions and I haven't engaged with the thread for weeks now and feel like this is the only place to actually have nuanced discussions on AI as quite literally everywhere else, including other AI threads, are hard to have these discussions without shit flinging.

>>43026068
I think I would maybe consider myself a writer in general (though I'd still be a little hesitant to use that term, feeling that it's very presumptuous), but that's not for a single word of /CHAG/ things I've done. This is for sure a more creative way to pass the time than many others, but writing and art imply something much bigger. I think that, to me at least, the term "writer" means more than just a profession title. AI RP/'writing' is for the most part either masturbatory or feel-good slop, not art. Of course that doesn't make it wrong or evil or what have you, just as long as you don't treat it like what it's not.
This might be more of a conflict of terminology than the underlying ideas. I wouldn't necessarily call AI RP as being worse than the "human-written" lowest-common-denominator slop you can find selling well in real world bookstores, but neither is really deserving of the term "writing" to me.

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>>43026243
If you want the cherry on top, there is no evidence this faggot has ever made any greentexts. This is the first and last time he's tripfagged on here, so unless we get an itemized list he's blowing hot air out of his ass. And as you mentioned, even if it was true he wrote a shit ton of greentexts, greentexts aren't prose writing (which the majority of books are) anyhow. Ironically, greentexts are easier for AI to do because of just how low effort they are (I've tested this myself). If you write greentexts, you have no pretension as a writer because they allow you to skip all the in-betweens of writing.

>>43026270
It's literally just the last few threads that have been overrun with attention. Like you know there are more murders in the summer because its hot and the downstream effect makes people more angry. Something similar is happening probably because of anger at Opus PrefillGate.

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>>43026274
>If you write greentexts, you have no pretension as a writer because they allow you to skip all the in-betweens of writing.
O-oh... okay.
*dies inside*

>>43026274
exactly, you need to write 30000 different filler scenes by hand without >skip forward 3 days hacks

>>43026282
I'd guess no public proxy is also playing a role, people shitpost more when they don't have access to their favorite models.

>>43026286
kek, no offense anon, but it is kinda true, the line by line format lets you skip tying together all the focuses of a scene. I still think most writefags are cool though, even if they're not professional writing level.

lol the lunatics ai brings out I swear.
>feels threatened by a machine doing your job
>your not a REAL **** unless ****

>>43026068
I believe myself to be a writer the same way George Lucas is a writer. I have really interesting ideas, but I fucking suck at executing them, hence why I use AI to execute them for me and tweak to my liking. I'd love to be able to actually execute my ideas well, but I don't have much confidence in my ability to do so.

>>43026274
That's retarded, greentext writers are writers. If you think otherwise then you haven't read the dreck that people sell as books nowadays.

>>43026252
>>43026282
It's the usual suspects that ruin the AI threads on other boards. As a filthy tourist I want to remind you fillyenjoyers to hide and ignore the trolls, especially the non quoted or five word replies. The more you interact with them the more they'll spam. You guys are one of the last true bastions of good on this basket weaving forum. But enough metafaggotry from me.


How is the supposedly improved 4.6pus context treating you guys? In the Benchmemes it looked really good but I haven't gotten around to testing myself due to being in no-privacy hell

>>43026298
I agree, they are writers, but greentext writers are not technically impressive writers (which is the part AI often does) is what I was getting at. It's writing, but a simplified kind of writing.

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>>43026274
>If you write greentexts, you have no pretension as a writer
I mean, I don't plan on writing a book or ever publishing something like FoE, but that feels just like fimfiction obtuse rule of banning greens "because". And I'm sure you read some of the shit that's posted there.
Still, oof...

>>43026289
Some Anons focus more on conversation, others on setting the scene, but doing one or another doesn't mean it's bad because it's not formatted traditionally.
Have you read Janitor Anon? Shape Your Home and #Deca.mare history? Steel Sanctuary from Technology isn't magic? There's a lot of good greens out there, long ones too, and often you can see their growth as writers as the history progresses.
I think greens is a valid way to tell histories myself, but most normies just want the conventional way.
Also, heh, poetry. Just thought of that one. That's pretty far from "normal" too if you think about it.

>>43026243
You have an obvious chip on your shoulder and you should seek professional help.
>>43026274
>writefags never ever write anonymously on le anonymous image board
I'm only using a trip here so none of my posts can be faked by some malicious seether here. I have multiple drafts of my stories and my partially collected works on ponepaste under the name Grey if you want to see that I know what I'm talking about. No, I don't think of myself as "Shakespeare" as some might put it but I have put in work over the years and I have the credentials to add my two cents to AI even when it falls on deaf ears. I was heated but I've cooled off now and I probably shouldn't have written that while angry but what's done is done. Writing greentexts is easier than traditional Western fiction writing, but it's not different than saying writing haikus is easier than writing other types of poetry. It's still a legitimate form of writing.

>>43026318
>Also, heh, poetry.
They are on the level of their own, far above us lowly mortals, writers and non-writers both.

>>43026323
Can I just ask why you went ballistic when more than half of the quotes you quoted said they don't consider themselves writers at all when doing this?

>>43026318
>Steel Sanctuary from Technology isn't magic?
Holy shit I fucking love Steel Sanctuary, it's literally my favorite greentext of all time and it's had an impact on my autis- er, I mean, beliefs on technology. I've wanted to make a card on it for the longest time. I don't think I've seen anyone here ever mention the old Technology Isn't Magic threads in the years I've been here, did you use to post in that general too? How long have you been in /chag/?

Would this be a good time to ask what would be the best narrative for RPs to not confuse the model? First, second or third?

>>43026337
Sorry, it was an overreaction. I haven't been in a good mood since I've been laid off. I only wanted to browse /mlp/ in between sending out more applications I'll never hear back from and when I saw the posts seriously proposing that prompting was art it just ticked me off and I reply all-ed. I don't post here but it was shoved in my face at a bad time.

>>43026354
I prefer second, but it does confuse models a bit. Third is the safest, because names get dropped all the time so the model has explicit knowledge who's saying who.

>>43026294
I feel I use AI for a similar reasons as you except I've skipped the "I don't have much confidence in my ability to do so." part because I just admit I'm lazy and don't bother improving myself. I don't want to put in the effort to get the ideas out of my head onto the page because the ideas are of a bunch of degenerate smut about cartoon ponies. If you generally want to execute your ideas well, and as longer as there not as degenerate as mine, I encourage you to work on your writing and eventually pull away from AI because you have passion that the ai is stifling your creativity, though that is just my opinion. I'm using fast food ingredients to make a fast food burger because that's what I'm craving, but trying to make a Michelin 5 Star Burger out of the same ingredients is going to get you kicked out the resultant. Obviously the metaphor has issues but the point hopefully mostly makes sense. I have made the argument that AI allows someone to realize they have the passion and I see no fault in using it during that process but I do believe continuing to take the easier way is doing more harm than good. But don't let I say detor you, go ahead doing what your doing I just think the ideas will stagnant. So many good squeals wouldn't exist if the creator didn't learn what worked and didn't work in the original and I think that's the consequence of relying on AI.

>>43026355
No problem.
I'm just a random faggot, but for my part, I don't see what we do as art and I wouldn't call myself a writer. We are just a bunch of retards prompting now mostly assistant-slopped models to try to have some bits of 'decent' writing or just because interactivity is fun. Never saw hate for writers too or a
>GET REPLACED!
sentiment until now. Most agree it's something that should stay confined to personal use or in the thread for fun.
I love greens too, tried to keep the /green/ generals alive but they died in the end from lack of participation despite trying shit like greenclubs and all. Still, they were good while they lasted.

>>43026354
First has the highest highs and the lowest lows.
Second is inherently kino but like >>43026357 said, it can lead to whatever model you are using getting really fucking confused at times.
Third is pretty much just the most basic standard. A baseline of sorts, if you will.

>>43026318
>I think greens is a valid way to tell histories myself, but most normies just want the conventional way.
Like who I was responding to, I was a bit heated and now I've cooled down a bit, so I want to qualify what I said, greentexts are a valid form of writing, just unconventional as everyone's made clear, but at the same time to put AI writing down is incredibly reductive. I want to emphasize that AI writing cannot happen without human interaction, and can actually be enhanced by human interaction. You can feed a model an outline, have it flesh it out for you, and then tweak it to your liking so it gels with your style. Prompting can also be considered a type of pre-emptive editing to catch all the common defects of AI writing given how it directs the model to follow a certain style and avoid other things. Writing using AI is only shit if you make it so by putting in no effort to polish it up. It's kind of just like human writing in that way.

>>43026363
Yeah, but with AI you know it's going to get better with time. So many creative fields are rushing to make their students and graduates well-versed in AI tool use. It's important not to dismiss AI as only being as good as it is now. It may be fast food ingredients now but in 5 years it's anyone guess how good it'll be. It may be in track to eclipse human talent altogether. At that point using AI to keep pace will be necessary rather than a luxury so it's better to learn those skills sooner rather than later, right?

>>43026336
I've written green poetry before, does it count?
https://desuarchive.org/mlp/thread/39104861
Or would it just be poetry? Not green? Oh well, it's still kinda painful to do though. English really isn't a easy language to do it with...

>>43026342
Basically from the start, but not the very start. Like, 10-20? I've written one offs for TiM, but nothing massive like other Anons.
I'm just another Anon, card maker, whatever. Nothing special Anon.
Still, if you think you can make an interesting card of the concept of Anon crash landing in Equestria and factorio-ing his way to survival while holding away from ponies that could probably be interesting. I think cards having a hard time with "checkpoints" per se, what you can do while growing and building and long term planning, is kinda the biggest hurdle in that tbqh.

>>43026366
As a newfag to /chag/ could you explain what it means for a model to be assistant-slopped? I see it mentioned a lot but I don't get the context or the reference. Like are they nerfing the AIs so they can't do stuff because they are only meant to 'assist' you and not do stuff 'for' you?

>>43026369
>AI you know it's going to get better with time
NTA, but With how companies are dumbing them down in terms of writing to make them "better assistants" and governments fearmonguering how AI understanding human feelings is 'le dangerous and insecure' I doubt it.

>>43026380
But how can AI get worse? Even with censorship they literally can't backtrack with the competition and pressure they're under. Keeping pace with their frontier models depends on building on top of what they already have and we know what they already have is capable of doing things we've come to expect. Adding a safety layer on top of a vulnerable foundation can't keep anyone determined enough at bay for long because the 99% underneath from older models will override the 1% new censored content. It's a losing battle for them. Even when Claude's creativity got worse after Opus 3 because they shifted to prioritizing coding over writing, it didn't become a shitty writer, it retained all the previous work that they couldn't risk undoing. It's too embedded to cleanly remove without collapsing the house of cards. The fact that AI companies have gone on the record saying they literally don't understand the internals of their own models and just do whether they find improves benchmarks means they couldn't do so even if they tried, either.

I skipped over all of that. Kill all AiEfags.

>>43026378
>assistant-slopped
AI models are mostly focused on:
1) Coding
2) Administrative tasks
which are at odds with creative writing, since you want stability for those and not creativity. They are also sometimes made to be really agreeable to the user or even glaze them a bit, which can come with positivity bias or making you by default win or succeed in all your actions.
Those models also need a lot and lot of data. More than the internet and way more than all human literature ever produced.
Good writing is a very small percent of this.
Now they train on synthetic data, aka data that is produced by LLMs themselves, which also tends to slop models even more.
Older models were way, way, way dumber but had more variety in swipes, could go full schizo or
>mad poet
like we called Claude.
There is a bit of nostalgia in that for sure, but some models like Opus 3 could write in a way current models just can't anymore.
>>43026369
>It may be on track to eclipse human talent altogether.
I don't think so, due to what I said above, but also due to the fact that classic-level writing is just at such a high level that I can't see a machine reproducing it or reaching that level.
Buzzword I know, but there is too much SOVL.

>>43026392
>How can AI get worse?
Anon, you've seen what they've done to our man Claude... one step forwards, two steps back is definitely a thing. You can't tell me Claude would generate something like this with the way it is nowadays
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1BU2aTClBKHAu9kY-CIImtxcFDfnduU9i/view?usp=drive_link
Thanks OP for the !!! BOLD !!! gallery, I finally found it. It's a miracle!

>>43026014
>>43026128
stuff like this will always haunt the back of my mind a little bit. how many people out there who made millions of dollars not having a single clue how AI actually works or even how to use it beyond a magic AGI wizard box but they grifted well enough to be experts so they got rich.
while i watched this whole scene slowly grow for several several years while learning every details just to waste it on personal fun.
at least it is some good fun.

>>43026408
Well, hold on, isn't Pony Alpha a perfect local recreation of Claude's writing style? Maybe we can just make an LLM that uses Opus 3's writing style based on collected logs from it?

>>43026427
>perfect local recreation of Claude's writing style
absurdly so. If you swipe on a story started with opus its hard to tell between their responses

>>43026424
I'm in the same boat, I feel the exact same way. We've been left behind because we didn't make the first move. You're rewarded more for action than for knowledge in this life it seems.

>>43026427
>>43026431
This already exists and I've used it before, there is a model from last year that is a distill from Opus 3 data. I remember I was completely shocked at what it could do for its preformance. I can find it if anyone is interested in trying it? I never thought much about it because we still had the real thing at the time but now with Opus 3 officially gone forever this is the closest thing there is to that experience.

>>43026450
a few have but they were all retarded. Pony is still not as smart as opus nor knows as much but its far better than the other ones that wrote like it before

>>43026450
https://huggingface.co/shuttleai/shuttle-3.5
>A fine-tuned version of Qwen3 32b, emulating the writing style of Claude 3 models and thoroughly trained on role-playing data.
Anyone care to try this? Is this Pocket Opus?

>>43026450
>>43026470
Wait, was it this?
https://dataloop.ai/library/model/anthracite-org_magnum-v4-123b/
Magnum V4 123b Claude 3 Prose Model
>Meet Magnum V4 123b, a cutting-edge AI model designed to replicate the high-quality prose of Claude 3 models, like Sonnet and Opus. This model is fine-tuned on top of the Mistral-Large-Instruct-2407 model and is capable of handling tasks like text generation and conversation. What makes Magnum V4 123b unique is its ability to learn from a variety of datasets, including c2_logs_16k_mistral-large_v1.2 and kalo-opus-instruct-22k-no-refusal. The model is trained using 8x mi300x GPUs, which allows it to process information quickly and efficiently. With its advanced architecture and robust training data, Magnum V4 123b is an impressive model that can generate high-quality text and respond to user input in a way that feels natural and intuitive. Are you looking for a model that can handle complex tasks with ease? Magnum V4 123b is definitely worth considering.
>The model is designed to replicate the high-quality writing style of other AI models, like ==Sonnet== and Opus. It’s fine-tuned to generate human-like text that’s engaging and easy to read.
>Here are some examples of what the model can do:
>Write creative stories, poetry, and even entire scripts

There is also a 22B distill
https://huggingface.co/anthracite-org/magnum-v4-22b
I've never been interested in local models before but I am deeply invested in seeing how these preform

>>43026487
Apparently this fixed a lot of issues with dumb models because the underlying Mistral Large Instruct Model 2407 was lauded as being really good when it came out, so this may not suffer from the issues people faced

>>43026427
I thought you guys were exaggerating but no. That model is indeed oddly reminiscent of Claude, even down to its creative choices.

>>43025445
>>43025407
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>>43025335
perchance looking slop

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To add a bit more to Opus 4.6 being a bit less biased:
RD demolishes me in a race. Opus 4.5 would make it close or even a tie.

>>43026521
you can't just say "perchance"

>>43026014
Why the fuck am I even working? I should be out there doing that.

>>43026470
Hey if you don't have access to Claude right now, you can apparently get a free key and try this out from their official API, would be interesting to compare this Opus 3 replication with the Pony Alpha Opus 4 replication side by side
https://docs.shuttleai.com/getting-started/models
65k context window and it's considered their flagship top of the line text model

>>43026524
Good to see. I wanna see more 4.6pus logs, I can't use it myself.

>>43026524
>Love the arm-flappy thingy
Kek, nice

>>43026526
https://letmegooglethat.com/?q=perchance

>>43026524
This is a monley's paw situation. The only reason it's less positivity bias is because they trained too refuse more often than 4.5. Yeah it's going to be nicer for stuff like this but it makes your life harder for the other things that are arguably way more important to having a good user experience than these luxuries of the model not giving you what it thinks you want all the time.

>>43026533
For sure, and the lack of prefill is breaking my balls for normal RPs on Silly, since it's IMO one of the best tools to 'unslop' the outputs.
Still, just wanted to report back on my tests. It's not bad for the VN since a bit less biased and since it's mostly focused on dialogues.

>>43026533
>trained too refuse more often
No, actually its for coding purposes. Positive biased models are worse at finding issues with code / critiquing the user. This is why they are all finally fighting the positive bias.

https://files.catbox.moe/eh1yc0.mp4

>>43026047
>Pay people to shill on 4chan
Kek, no. The moneygrubbers wouldn't do that. The shills do it all for free because they're genuinely retarded
>>43026068
AI art IS art. But I'd never consider myself a writer or an artist because all of them invariably seem to be retarded. But I have crafted and directed several plotlines and unique worlds with my (also written entirely by me, not with AI) cards that if I were to publish anywhere else I'd be considered a writer.
>>43026182
Exhibit of retard #1. Nobody cares, pretentious faggot. Greentexts are the lowest possible form of what's already a lower form of writing. A fanfiction author too lazy to even make a proper prose calling other people parasites of creativity is hilarious. And I say this as a guy who wrote one (singular, because I realized it wasn't for me) greentext over a decade ago and used to be paid $18 an hour to write original fiction to feed an AI model as well.
You aren't special, and are the creative equivalent of a terminal dunning-Kruger case.

>>43026087
>Prompting and gooning is art
No.
Prompting is asking for the ai to finish your thoughts because you don't have the ability. By definition it is not an art, which is the result of over months to years of refinement.
>>43026068
I have made chatbots but have no delusions at all about my writing skills. I've always struggled with the in-between of key events and had minor success with greens taking longer than I wanted to get out. But now instead of getting better at it, prompting is just turning the brain off and going along with the ride.

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>>43022422
I'm not sure if this is any indication, but Claude never gave me full chinese text

>>43026590
literally your entire post is "I'm incompetent and useless so you're just like me!"