a character so dogshit that even the official comic artist doesn't like her
>>43035979is there anything andy price understand the appeal of on an intellectual level
>"HI ANDY!"
>>43035979>a character so dogshitThere is absolutely nothing wrong with Trixie's character.You don't even need to be super smart or anything, you just need to reject late season crap involving her.
He's clearly saying he likes her as a villain.
>>43035987Ok, ignoring everything after Magic Duel, we have two whole appearances of her. In those two appearances, Trixie:>has an insufferable personality with zero redeeming qualities>is a bully that talks shit and flips out when challenged>is a sperg that goes out of her way to try and ruin someone's life for saving her out of petty "revenge" and wastes hundreds of bits to do soWhat a great character. Her later appearances don't make her any better, so I don't know why you want to occlude those as if they ruined a good character when they did nothing and she stayed a one-note nothingburger character.
>>43036000>>has an insufferable personalityIt's literally her job as a magician to behave as if she is better than everyone else.You didn't attend a single live performance, did you?>with zero redeeming qualitiesShe gives ponies a show and gets money for it. It's the market who decides what has quality and what hasn't.>is a bully that talks shit and flips out when challengedDealing with naysayers 101:>Magicians deal with naysayers, hecklers, and "know-it-alls" through a combination of audience management, psychological techniques, and planned, polite, or witty responses designed to maintain control of the performance. The overarching goal is to keep the audience entertained without letting one disruptive person ruin the experience.>is a sperg that goes out of her way to try and ruin someone's life for saving her out of petty "revenge" and wastes hundreds of bits to do soHer reputation was ruined and she lost her whole career decided by her cutie mark talent.Do you think anyone would took this lightly?
>>43035979If Trixie wasn't pretty everyone would hate her.
>>43036042>It's literally her job as a magician to behave as if she is better than everyone else.Her wagon, thus her home, was also destroyed by a pair of retarded colts who lured an Ursa to town just because Trixie did her job and did it well too.
>>43036042>It's literally her job as a magician to behave as if she is better than everyone else.It's this same song and dance all the time.The show makes it very clear that's not just her "stage persona", that's her actual personality, that's how she acts. She's a narcissist.>Her reputation was ruined and she lost her whole career decided by her cutie mark talent. Do you think anyone would took this lightly?Her "reputation" and "career" was built around bullying others and putting others below her, if it really was just an act than I would be more sympathetic, but we've already established that's not the case. And seeking out an ancient amuletto get "revenge" on someone who had to fix your bullshit is the dogshit motivation to become evil ever.
>>43036045She has a damn good design, too bad they put all the effort into her and design and not her actual character.
>>43036042>It's the market who decides what has quality and what hasn't.The market decided that someone who would lie about something as serious as defeating an Ursa Major was nopony worth interacting with.
I want Trixie to sit on my face
>>43036059>magicians lie for the showHoly shit, Anon, did you know that water is wet?
>>43036064Apparently Equestria considers lying about that to be a big deal! Take it up with all the ponies in Equestria, not me.
>>43036042Trixie actually flipped her shit and heckled her own audience.>lost her whole career decided by her cutie mark talentCutie marks are not jobs, they're talents with flexible meanings and applications. She can still do foal parties as a clown, wrangle pigs with her rope tricks, or make a cock disappear instead of being a street performer.
>>43036059>>43036065To be fair, you defeating someone once doesn't mean that you can defeat them again when you are completely unprepared. That's like expecting a caveman to defeat a mammoth in a fair fight just because he trapped them before.The writers really painted ponies as retards who don't understand nuances.
>>43036063To latte, shes sitinh on my faace as we speklSorry for the typos, I couldn't see behind her great and powerful ass
>>43036103Well, see, whether or not she needed preparations to defeat him or not is irrelevant because she in the episode admitted to being a liar and then the ponies who heard that admission spread it.
>>43035979>IDWIt's alright, we don't like their shitty fanfics anyway
>>43035979But enough about Glimmer
Trixie is a stupid bitchAndy Price is a stupid bitchOP is a stupid bitchAll of these can be true at once
>>43036439
>Twilight is a shitty mary sue mind-rapist groomer pedophile dictator>Rarity is a slutty gold-digging manipulative snob>Dash is a retarded lazy inconsiderate ecoterrorist and all around turbocunt>Fluttershy is a two-faced schizophrenic simp for the shittiest character in the show>Pinkie is a screeching obnoxious bitch with the brainpower of a toddler that always has to get her way or she'll start moping like an emo tween until she does out of pity>Applejack is a boring nothing character that offers literally nothing of interest in any story beyond the same "muh appuls, muh family, muh tradition" shit that was played out within one season of her loathsome existence>Celestia is a pathetic fraud that loses to practically every threat tossed her way including literal snow>Luna is an irrelevant cuck made to accept that nobody will ever give a shit about her night and also has a tiny butt>>>GlimmerEvery character is dogshit. Especially YOUR favorite, that's right (You)r favorite! Not mine though.
>>43036509Who's your favorite?
>>43036512HER
>>43036509>comparing a character that was deliberately made to be nothing but insufferable and hated to the main characters that are supposed to be flawed and relearn the same lessonsnot even remotely the same, you might have a case for celestia and luna though, glimmer goes without saying
>>43036515oh fair enough then
>>43035987She was pretty two dimensional early on, her later episodes were what made her more likeable.>>43036000>Her later appearances don't make her any betterYes they do, he even says it himself.>she was so much more appealing when she was a pain in the ass>when she was a pain in the ass>WHEN she WAS a pain in the ass
>>43036581>being a pathetic pet to Poochie is """better"""
>>43036581She's still extremely unlikable even later, they didn't do nearly enough, she's still the same person.
>>43035979Trixie was definitely better as her own self and an anti-hero than what she became later as the writers pet character's sidekick being her whole personality, yea.
>>43036594She was never an anti-hero or a hero period, just a cunt. I don't understand why people act like later seasons "butchered her character" when she never had a character to begin with. There was no substance or depth to her before and after Haber.
>>43036593>She retains this narcissistic personality throughout the entire series, all the way up to S9E20, the sixth episode before the finale.>S9E20The entire episode is her being excited because she thinks she'll be her friend's underling.
>>43036042>those repliesI at least agree with you
>>43036594Trixie Dindulamoon fans see her as some sort of anti-hero in the early seasons. It's in the late seasons when she takes on the changelings that she became anything of an anti-hero.>>43036599Wrong.
>>43035979Holy based
>>43036785>Wrong.It's quite true, Trixie is a bad character.
>>43036509>Fluttershy is a two-faced schizophrenic simp for the shittiest character in the showAngel Bunny is a menace.
Your forced meme is bad and you should feel bad.
>>43036890>screencapped regurgitation
>>43036920>no argument>basedjakgrim
>>43036924I don't argue with voices of the past. You going to post your screencapped essays about how unfair Rainbow Dash and Applejack are while you're at it?
>>43036941>I don't argue with voices of the past.Cringe.
>>43035979>a comic series so shit that even Hasbro didn't want it anymore
>>43036509>and also has a tiny buttBut it excites me so!
>>43036042>It's literally her job as a magician to behave as if she is better than everyone else.Using real magic to perform fake magic is what only the later seasons introduced.Her actual "performance" in Boast Busters boiled down to inviting someone else to perform something cool on stage and then humiliating them with something retarded.
>>43037376I'd want to humiliate an asshole as big as Dash too, to be fair
>>43036509>>Twilight is a shitty mary sue mind-rapist groomer pedophile dictatorbut those are all good qualities
>>43036941I accept your concession.
>>43036045perhaps the same could be said of all females
>>43036045It would make the character more interesting. Compensation for her looks would explain the bravado.
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>>43035979I only like her because of tamers12345
>>43038749trixie butt
>>43038749unf trixie rumpa plap plap plap
>>43038762consider suicide
>>43039484
>>43036581>>Her later appearances don't make her any better>Yes they do, he even says it himself.>>she was so much more appealing when she was a pain in the ass>>when she was a pain in the ass>>WHEN she WAS a pain in the assI think that’s him saying she got worse when she became nice.
>>43039521She never became nice, the show tried to act like she was by pairing her with good characters while she acted the exact same.
>>43039538Nice is relative.
>>43036077>Trixie actually flipped her shit and heckled her own audience.looking at the episode, it was rarity who started it, then applejack and rainbow dash joined in
>>43039615Rarity and AJ conversating amongst themselves isn't heckling though. If it was this part of an overheard conversation that set her off, then Trixie is truly a fragile idiot that put the breaks on her show for no reason. It's more likely that Rainbow's louder and more direct "Booo!" is what set Trixie off, which lead to RD rushing on stage after Trix calls out a neighsayer, where Trix silences her with her ursa major fib. Here's the thing: Trixie won at this point. The glowering m6 held back, but didn't push any further. Trixie (re)started it because she couldn't let go of a chance to humiliate. When nobody volunteered for her challenge, she shifted to singling out Twilight. Before Twi could concede, she shifted to pushing AJ over the edge with an insult. Essentially, she heckled her audience.
>>43039976I dislike this more than I dislike Trixie.
>>43039979It will make you like Trixie more
>>43039976Wouldn't this just be Tempest 2.0 but with more 'I can save her' shit?
Trixie is a good character. She is written to be a bitch with an ego to disguise her lack of ability and a few glimmers of genuineness inside. Her being a cunt doesn't take away from her being a good character
>>43040913>Her being a cunt doesn't take away from her being a good characterHer being a cunt betters her character because I love ponies being cunts
>>43035979>a character so dogshit that even the official comic artist doesn't like herYeah, nobody likes OP.
>>43040913She would be a good character if the show treated her like the cunt that she is by having her stay a villain, but it didn't.
>>43035979I only started liking Trixie because of Glimmer. Glim carries her character hard. Although I wish Glimmer had more time with the mane six instead of being wasted on Trixie so much. I don't mind Trixie being a cunt but as pointed out in the thread her first two episodes were so poorly written it didn't leave me with a good impression of her.
>>43040977>her first two episodes were so poorly writtenI mean, they were written to have a dipshit villain and she was very fun in that role.
>>43040928
>>43039538Her personality changed pretty significantly by the later episodes. She calmed down with the "great and powerful" stuff to the point where it became more like a funny little gimmick rather than the dominating aspect of her entire being.
>>43041059still an insufferable and selfish little cunt, she's the same person at her core.
>>43040983Dipshit characters are fun. It's just that the execution doesn't do her justice. Some of the mane six had to be hit with the idiot ball to force the conflict. One thing I really hate is how Magic Duel turns the adorable Ponyville citizens into niggers that vandalize and ostracize a poor mare for no reason. Why does Trixie get revenge against the mare that saves her life and not the nigger ponies literally damaging her reputation and property? Why is a stage magician pony jealous of a mage pony being better at magic? The world is based on cutie marks, it's like a farming pony becoming jealous of a rollerblading pony for rollerblading better. The ponies living under Equestria's culture would understand the basic mechanics of cutie marks that affect their strengths and weaknesses. Now that I think about it's mostly Magic Duel that causes me the most rage, Boast Busters can be chalked up to inexperienced writers, but it's Magic Duel that ruins everything.
If you hate anypony you didn't get the message of the showRewatch it until you want to be Trixie's friend
>>43041086SombraChrysalisTirekCozy GlowStorm KingWhat do these names all have in common?
>>43036000It's almost like she's supposed to be an antagonist you're not supposed to root for.
>>43041127I'll root for her anyway because she's cute
>>43041127that would've been fine if it stayed that waythey shouldn't have brought her back after magic duel, i'd argue even boast busters
>>43041103that they are all really cool
>>43039489why
>>43035979Trixie fucking sucks and Andy is based.
>>43041139I agree with you. It felt like they were giving Glimmer random friends or interests to make her seem more interesting, and Trixie got stuck with her because she was a popular side-character.
>>43041178It wasn't random, it was obviously for the redeemed bad guy connection. Glimmer didn't need Trixie anyway, she was already more interesting than most of the mane six. I hated how Trixie was forced on Glimmer just to give Trixie relevance again. There was no point brining Trixie back other than for the reformed antagonist angle. Glimmer should have had more time with the mane six. Her relationship with Pinkie could have been expanded on and we could have got more cute Marble and Limestone out of it. The dynamic between the Rock Farm and Our Town aren't so different, there's a lot of fun stuff to work with, with any of the m6 really.
>>43041103Dead as fuck
>>43041239Maud was pretty random and her love of kites and plants. >Glimmer was already more interesting than most of the mane sixThis is where I stopped reading.
>>43041270>This is where I stopped reading.But you referenced something written later in the post...
>>43041275>It wasn't random>Maud was pretty random and her love of plants and kites
>>43041267I want to pick Trixie up so I'm not looking down on her!
>>43041291No, no uppies for Trixie.
>>43041295
>>43041306fuck
>>43041239Haber had a hard-on for Trixie for whatever reason. No one gave a fuck about her until then. The m6 were hitting a wall and Starlight could have done a lot to grow their characters. I personally would have liked seeing Glimmy and Dashie together more. They both have the competitive spirit to be the best at what they do for reasons related to their childhoods and they had similar anxieties about performing. I feel they easily have more potential than the Appledash dynamic.
>>43035979>Trixie was more interesting as an antagonistI mean, is he wrong?
>>43041278Maud is an established secondary. A random would be a background pony. Plants and kites are no different than books and dresses.
>>43041380>Haber had a hard-on for Trixie for whatever reason. No one gave a fuck about her until then.Obnoxious Trixie simps existed way before S6
>>43041404I know Trixie had a cult following. I'm talking about the staff.
>>43041387Yeah, he is. She was funny in her early episodes, but she was a flat character, she didn't really have anything going for her. She became a more interesting character after being reformed.
The decision to make Trixie a school counselor in S9 does not get enough flak for how nonsense it is.Trixie is the worst possible person to counsel someone out of ALL the characters that aren't just straight-up evil.Yes, even Starlight herself would be better because she's at least working to understand her own flawed psyche.Yes, even Rainbow Dash would be better because she's shown the capacity to be supportive to children.Yes, even actual child characters would be better because they ironically are less prone to temper tantrums.Trixie has extremely low emotional intelligence, possibly the lowest out of anyone in the show. That basically means she acts on extreme impulse without thinking. She hides her insecurity behind a paper-thin layer of toxicity, lashing out at people when her fragile ego is threatened in casual conversation. Trixie is the kind of girl to yell at you out of nowhere and then demand you forgive her five minutes later. She's the kind of girl to slap her kid in a fit of rage and then cry about it. She's the kind of girll who would expect her partner to read her thoughts and cater to her and would get angry if they don't.This is not the kind of person who should, or realistically could, be helping someone else with their insecurity and self-doubt, because she desperately needs help with those things herself.
>>43041413>"reformed"
>>43041416School counselor? Season 9? What are you talking about, anon? It's December 1st and episode 5's about to air!
>>43041416You put this to words better than I've struggled to. You just perfectly described exactly why I don't like this character.
>>43041067No, she wasn't the same as she was at the start of the series, she didn't act the same or talk the same, and she was a friendlier pony.
I think Trixie and Starlight could have more interesting episodes if they didn't get hitched to each other.I also happen to feel the exact same way about Discord with Spike and Big Mac, and the villain trio.Late seasons really liked grouping secondary characters together for arbitrary reasons, for which I feel some of their characterization and individuality had to be sacrificed. They would be characterized as either the straight man (Starlight, Spike and Big Mac, Chrysalis and Tirek) or the troublemaker of the group (Trixie, Discord, Cozy) and all their plots would follow similar patterns.
>>43041406Trixie was a minor antagonist in Rainbow Rocks and appeared in several EqG shorts before No Second Prances, she was always popular and an extremely safe character to have return
>>43041416>t. Princess Twilight Sparkle, suffering from TDS (Trixie Derangement Syndrome).In all seriousness though, I do agree that Trixie is a horrendously abysmal choice for that role.The extra stupid thing is that episode was set up to teach an anti-nepotism lesson, but then just ended with nepotism anyway!
>>43041416Trixie has incredibly high control of her emotions, but chooses to indulge her temperamental nature. Therefore, she knows to advise kids to do the opposite of what she does, just as Sparkle expects of Glimmer, and Glimmer of her.
>>43041581>temperamental>(of a person) liable to unreasonable changes of mood.If one's mood is not controllable by reason, then that just leaves emotion. That means you would be saying that trixie lets her emotions control her mood, and calling that control. So what are you talking about? What is a single scene in the show where trixie controls her emotions in any way? Pick one.
>>43041581>Trixie has incredibly high control of her emotions
>>43041714Trixie overhears the m6 talking bad about her. She feels anger, and reasons baiting them into humiliation is the best course of action. Self control does not equate to being emotionless.
>>43041769>she feels anger and decides to act on that angerNot seeing any evidence of self-control there.
>>43041793>decides to actNothing you said evidences a loss of control there.
>>43041416Alright, I'm an avowed Trixie enjoyer but you are speaking pure truth right now.Trixie getting a job at the school? Sure, whatever, the school is already everything wrong with the later seasons but we're stuck with it. But counselor is a bad choice- she has ZERO experience with that, on top of having a poor temperament for that kind of job. Starlight doesn't have any qualifications either, but at least she's a 3smart5me manipulator so that's SOMETHING.Trixie should've gotten a job as a gym teacher, or the shop class, or even fucking chemistry. She has extensive, onscreen experience with hard physical activity, sleight of hoof routines, building and maintaining mechanical things and I think she makes her own fireworks too? Granted they're shitty bundles of OSHA violations but she hasn't killed herself yet and that's about as much chemistry knowledge as Starlight has psychology training.
>>43041800Then it's worthless for either argument and there's no point in bringing it up. She loses control of her emotions when she admits to being a liar later on in the episode and that's the only moment that can be definitively proven one way or another, all other moments leave ambiguity as to whether or not she's in control of her actions. So, it is fair to say that she's more well-known for losing control than she is for controlling herself.
From the looks of everyone here, I'd say everyone likes Trixie in reality. As a reminder, the more one talks about a something they claim to "dislike/hate", in reality they like them.Pic related is who I hate but unlike everyone else, I keep my mouth shut.
>>43041901Discussion about characters is just fun, regardless of whether you like/dislike or think they're a good/bad character.
>>43041816If that's your procedure, then nobody is qualified to run the school, most of all the mane6, since they are more well known for losing control than for controlling themselves. Remember, we love them because they're crazy.
>>43042073I mean, if you're making the argument that all of Trixie's bad behavior is something that she rationally decides to do and that she's very in control of herself, that's far more disqualifying than having a few bad days and feeling bad about it after.
>>43042079That can be true if you stick to the belief that a pony would apply her own adult standards to the very same students she mentors. Better not let Rainbow Dash around the kids with her cider addiction.
Trixie became the guidance counselor because she's very childlike, so she's able to relate to the students better.
>>43042125Never become a counselor.
>>43042125Being socially retarded is usually an advantage in equine society
>>43042096Rainbow was a shit teacher. There's an episode about this, or a few. That's not because of her drinking habit, which is metaphorical anyway. It's because she's a retard with no emotional maturity, self awareness, or self control. Even with all that, it wasn't an issue until she failed to empathize with her students. The bitch failed at teaching P.E..If this was real life, a drinking problem would be a reason to remove a teacher. However, extreme love of drink outside of business hours is not, up until it causes reputational damage to the institution. However, trixie isn't being evaluated as a teacher. She's being evaluated as a counselor. A counselor's primary objective is not to communicate information to a captive audience. Their exact point is to help students with their personal problems. The negative traits of trixie and rainbow are bad for teaching, but are disqualifying for a counselor. >non of the ms are known for controlRarity is. It takes self control to stop your emotional outburst for long enough to pull out a fainting couch and then continue your outburst. She made a sizable point about her self control whens he was working for the diamond dogs. "this is whining." She allowed herself to be covered in mud for her sister's sake, which is a big deal to her. She chopped off her tail. She had the gall to turn your shitty haircut into a punk rock thing and then walk outside with confidence. Fluttershy is constantly preforming extreme amounts of self control, enough to make her outbursts notable and particularly potent. She's not as good as rarity, but clearly manages to bottle a lot up. Half her outburst are for the sake of others, intentionally standing up for what she thinks matters. Then again, her "self control" acts more like repression a lot of the time.AJ "cries on the inside"Twilight is mostly a being of lists and rules. While she is reduced to a neurotic mess sometimes, those events are fueled by half an episode ore more of stress designed to explain exactly how she's being broken down. It's not till later seasons that she starts really getting impulsive and unstable by default, and that's because she's had responsibility for the nation, the country, and causality itself thrust into her hooves without her consent. Pinkie is obviously guilty as charged and so is rainbow.>all that asideYou: claimanon: give an exampleyou: trixie took vengance on those who annoyed heranon: that example doesn't work so goodyou: well YOUR examples don't work so good either???So do you have an example of trixie acting in a way which is consistent with the idea that she's good at self control and also inconsistent with the idea that she's bad at self control, or not?
>>43041400>Glimmer has nothing interesting going on with her>UHHH she likes kites or something idk
>>43042220You really didn't understand the point of, "Do as I say, not as I do".>explains away the m6 emotional outbursts in the same exact way I did Trixie.Kek, okay.>do you have an example of trixie acting in a way which is consistent with the idea that she's good at self control and also inconsistent with the idea that she's bad at self control, or not?She didn't kill Twilight in Magic Duel.
>>43042462So your new example of a time when trixie showed self control was when she was under actual mind control which stripped away her inhibitions and made her even more vindictive than normal?Nevermind the sillyness of that, lets go point by point. >So do you have an example of trixie acting in a way which is consistent with the idea that she's good at self control and also inconsistent with the idea that she's bad at self control, or not?>an example of trixie acting in a way Yes>which is consistent with the idea that she's good at self controlLack of murder doesn't get you to "good" at self control, but at least a person who was good at self control would behave this way. So, yes.>also inconsistent with the idea that she's bad at self controlA person who is bad at self control can totally not murder people, and is likely to not murder people. So no, it's not inconsistent, unfortunatly.2 out of 3, almost got it. >you did the same thingI provided an example. I did what we want you to do.
>>43042505>A person who is bad at self control can totally not murder peopleTwilight Sparkle is no ordinary people. It takes great restraint to not murder her on the spot. Even without the influence of an evil artifact.>weYour highness.
>>43042528>Twilight Sparkle is no ordinary people. It takes great restraint to not murder her on the spotNTA but if you think that's how Equestria works I don't think you can relate to basically anybody else when it comes to discussing the show. You imagine a very different world than the one we see.
>>43042530If you think I'm being at all serious, then I implore you to reconsider. You know how one relates to show discussion here? By having an opinion and never changing it. That anon has seen every Trixie episode and came to the conclusion that Trixie is emotionally out of control, so regardless of an earnest example I give, he'll say "nuh uh", and any counter example I give of the m6 he'll say "nuh uh" like he just did. So the only real option is to shitpost inarguable positions because it's funny and subjectively true.
>>43042539Shitposting, specifically, is subjectively false. That's what makes it shitposting. In mixing this message, you suggest that you are, indeed, being serious. It's a very serious disingenuity.
>>43042462>She didn't kill Twilight in Magic Duel.After the effects of the amulet ended Trixie still tried to painfully torture Dashie.
>>43042249>Twilight has nothing interesting going on with her>UHHH she likes books or something idk
>>43041901Hating something for sport is actually a thing that many enjoy unironically. It's called "hate-watching", something akin to a fandom culture but in reverse, where people share their frustrations and disappointments with a certain piece of media online and develop somewhat of a community around hating that thing just to vent their anger. I personally call it the Vivziepop effecf.
>>43042841A common grift is right wing commentators watching woke movies just to bitch at the gays.
>>43042843Whatever it takes to remove faggots from the stage
>>43042906How can you say that when MLP caters to the neurodivergent and horsefuckers who are a marginalized people too. Don't abandon our stallionfags in love with Braeburn and Soarin!
>>43042462>>43042505She's probably averagish in terms of emotional control. She was able to steel herself pretty quickly to go sacrifice herself in TWaBA. She handled criticism pretty well in ABU even though she says it was unpleasant to hear. Then, again, in A Horse Shoe-in, she was able to hold it together long enough to step out of the room before she started crying. The one anon is right, it's not that she has no control of her emotions, instead her problem is that she's socially underdeveloped, so her ideas for what she should do with those emotions aren't always very smart.
>>43042587Shitposting can be done with facts and reasoning, even when those facts and reasons are absurd enough to anons that it borders on trolling. It's like playing extreme devil's advocate.
>>43038061Your words are as empty as a female's.
>>43040875Let me have my "I can fix her" fantasy, man.
>>43041067I dunno about you but Trixie's "I win!" was a highlight of her character (and the show) for me.
>>43043037Unlike them we know how to keep our disorder to ourselves.
If a character that's meant to be seen as "one of the good guys" wouldn't be mourned by the other good guys then I'd say that's a good indication they're not a good character.
>>43042687...for thieving which is a normal reaction
>>43044214Ah yes, this reminds of the time I locked a man inside my basement for stealing a knife from me that I tried to stab him with and cut off all his toes.What the fuck are you on?
>>43044159Starlight would ugly-cry if Trixie died.
>>43041239>Glimmer should have had more time with the mane six.Her presence with the Mane Six always felt forced. It was what really invited the Poochie comparisons, and was just uncomfortable to watch play out.Starlight shined as a character when she was able to make her own friends. When she was with Trixie, she went from "awkward fuck-up who means well" to "straight man who is still allowed to have flaws", which is an actual niche within a group and not just an intrusion.>>43041416I don't disagree, but you may as well criticize the concept of the school itself. You are missing the forest for the trees. The entire thing was just a nonsensical fever-dream.
>>43044849I kinda wanna flick Trixie's horn until she cries.
>>43044851The superior alternative: >>43039976
>>43044854Nah I'm good.
>>43044861Fair, there's no fixing Trixie.
>>43035979There's a reason Andy sticks to doodling sketches and nothing else
>>43044884He's probably burnt out on ponies, were I to guess.
>>43044887Wish he was burned out on life.
>>43044235>Trixiefags are retartedIn other news, water is wet.
>>43044454The poochie comparisons never made any sense for Glimmer. Shimmer maybe, she has some problems I don't like. Glimmer is a secondary character like Spike, fitting naturally into the cast bouncing off everyone with her adorable charm, relatable flaws, and impulsive antics. She's fun and would've had great episodes with the mane six to help build their characters as an inexperienced friend to impart wisdom to or a partner in crime, the potential is boundless.
>>43041127This, she's an anti-Twilight, and it's entertaining.
>>43044235>incoherent schizo babble
>>43045526It's funny that Starlight is often considered a mane character despite never getting the screentime for it. Starlight is a side character with the development and depth of a main character so some confuse her as if she was a m7. The m6 really needed a pony a like her by this point in the series though. The m6 learned many things by s6 and it was the perfect opportunity to show how much they've grown by teaching the new blood the ways of friendship. I know the writers wanted to develop Twilight's Celestia mentoring arc but I feel as a princess of friendship she should have let her friends teach Starlight things too. This differentiates Twilight from Celestia to show that she is developing her own way of what being a princess means to her, that Twilight is not merely following in the hoofsteps of Celestia, but carving her own path to what she thinks is right. I think they were heavily limited by Hasbro's demands though, Hasbro was hellbent on continuing the status quo of the m6 fucking up and learning lessons when what we really needed was the m6 being adults and teaching lessons.
>pic related
>>43046138I'm just looking at Twilight's ass in the bottom left image. None of the other elements of this matter.
>>43046138>Trixie vandalizes Twilight's silverware just for fun right in front of herWhat words can you even use to describe such a person? Imagine some bitch ass nigga just coming into your house and tearing the head off one of your plushies of your waifu for no reason and leaving like nothing happened.
>>43046140I'm looking at Glimmy's raised hoofie top right and hoping she steps on me with it.
>>43046260thats dom mare behavior
>>43046260This is just basic RGRE stuff. If anything, Trixie would break into your house to nab a few photos of you in your sleep.
>>43046304You're too big for that, she'd need to raise her hoof way higher.
>>43046260Unicorn privilege. It was okay since Twilight is also a unicorn.
>>43046138God I love that stupid blue asshole of a pony so much it's unreal, I'm glad she never changed.
>>43047169I can't possibly understand how you could, but more power to you.
>>43047187There is a level of push and pull with females in your life that is endearing and lovely, and Trixie isn't evil or anything, but when you think about someone that believes that they are the greatest and powerfulest, and best looking, that is inherently a female trait that guys are drawn towards.
>>43047187Getting a bratty cunt to like you is both the most annoying and the best thing to ever happen to an anon
>>43047369>>43047385I think I'd rather just have a kind woman that genuinely cares about me than a selfish cunt that would only use me for her own advantage, thanks.
>>43035979Andy is a pussy ass bitch. If anything that's giving credit to Trixie.
>>43047454>a selfish cunt that would only use me for her own advantageWait, when did this become a Rainbow Dash thread?!
>>43047454So just waifu Trixie. If she can be submissive to her friend then why not a lover
>>43047483That describes Trixie perfectly, nice deflection though.
>>43047521But that's Twilight, she deserved it, and probably death too.
>>43047527Honestly? I can agree on that.
>>43047513Because her friend is a superpowered former cult leader with exceptional leadership abilities and a barely-repressed dominance streak, and (You) aren't.
>>43047600We have human penises capable of beating it up until Trixie starts gushing horse fluid, no pony could compete, she is for us.
>>43047616MLP ponies probably have drawn out sex sessions in a similar way to humans. There's zero reason to believe their sex would resemble that of earth's horses. Looking at earth's horses having sex and thinking "that's probably how MLP ponies do it" is like looking at chimpanzees having sex and thinking "that's probably how humans do it".Also Trixie is a lesbian.
>>43036000Major cope. She's a stage performer who EXPERTLY humiliated the hecklers in the crowd, then risked her life fighting a monster because two "IT'S STILL REAL TO ME DAMNIT!" spergers thought her character was real life.The Mane Six should be ashamed and embarrassed of themselves for targeting a poor, semi-homeless stage performer during her act...
>>43047671>risked her life fighting a monsterLMAO speaking of major cope. Rewatch the scene, she didn't try to stop it to actually help, she did it to try and save face, the first thing she did was run away.>Trixie: Wait, you brought this here? [gasp] Are you out of your little pony minds?>Snips: But, you're the Great and Powerful Trixie.>Snails: Yeah, remember? You defeated an ursa major.>Ursa: [roar]>Trixie: Uh, okay. [gulp] Stand back.>Trixie: Heh. Piece of cake.>Ursa: [growls, snap]>Snips: Aw, come on, Trixie.>Snails: Stop goofin' around and vanquish it, eh?>Trixie: [gasp, gulp]>Snails: Well, that was a dud.>Snips: Yeah, pfft, come on! Where's all the cool explosions and smoke and stuff like earlier? You know.>Trixie: Uh-oh.
>>43047679the show literally makes it as clear as possible to you that trixie is a piece of shit and people will still try to defend her lol
>>43047945>trixie makes shit up to make herself look better>trixie fans make shit up to make her look better/defend herit's poetic
anons really base their entire personality off hating a character just because of a tranny head canon
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>>43047679Most performers would be like "what the fuck" and call for help, to even try to save the town is nuts. This episode really exposes the people who don't comprehend what performance vs reality is and think The Undertaker in daily life sleeps in a coffin or something... Imagine performer John Cena yelling he's the baddest motherfucker alive and then an autistic Jon Jones gets mad and jumps into the ring to kick his ass because actually he's the baddest motherfucker... Or Michael Jordan getting mad because the Harlem Globetrotters act like they're GOATed.Consider that there's a reason the show decided to pick the two literal retard characters to bring the threat to a performance artist.
>>43048045>to even try to save the town is nutsTrixie didn't try to save the town for the sake of others. She only tried to save her own reputation when backed up against the wall with her lie.
The problem with treating Trixie as a performer is that magic is real in Equestria. In our world we know that the magic being performed are all tricks which is the main draw of the act, the way the performer is able to seamlessly do impossible things that looks like magic is happening. However in Equestria, magic is a real ability a third of the population can do which changes the expectations of the audience, they believe Trixie is simply showing off her real abilities. There is no reason for ponies to believe Trixie's show was just an act or that she is lying in any way.The heckling excuse, which doesn't even absolve her of physical assault, just doesn't work. The m6 weren't being rude, they're rightfully questioning the validity of Trixie's claims, at worst they are just bantering.The early writers didn't account for any of this, they kinda sucked at coherent world building, but I still like how this accidentally played out. The writers may have intended for Trixie to just be a one dimensional mid-level unicorn cuntbag doing real magic, but I like the idea that Trixie is a low-level unicorn doing tricks to make it look like she's more talented than she is and trying to convince others of that because she's insecure. It adds a layer of depth and sympathy to her.
>>430482172>The writers may have intended for Trixie to just be a one dimensional mid-level unicorn cuntbag doing real magic, but I like the idea that Trixie is a low-level unicorn doing tricks to make it look like she's more talented than she is and trying to convince others of that because she's insecure. It adds a layer of depth and sympathy to her.They definitely intended for her to be an illusionist that's larping as the "best unicorn". It's pretty clear if you watch the episode without fandom goggles. The issue isn't with the writing for the episode. The issue is with the illiteracy of the fandom. People have become extremely retarded and can't seem to pick up on even basic clues. The whole point of the episode is a lesson on being humble and where/when to allow yourself recognition for what you're genuinely talented at.People in the fandom don't understand this though because apparently Trixie needs to wear a hat that says "IM BEING A HUGE LYING NARCISSISTIC CUNT" for them to understand anything
>>43048217>>43048291>Accidental 2It's over Anyway. That's also why the episode is called "boast busters". Because Trixie is...yknow....boasting? She's proud of herself for abilities she's lying about being able to do.This is also why her interactions with the other m6 look the way it does. Compare Trixie's narcissism in the episode to Dash's. We can also cross compare her boasting with Applejack's pride. People who come up with all these different excuses for how Trixie didn't do anything wrong, are the same types of weirdos who need their favourite characters to be absolutely pure morally. Trixie was a huge cunt. That's the point. It's also what makes her character interesting, sad and funny. Fans need to either appreciate the character for who she is, or come up with a different mare to enjoy.
Counterpoint: she's hot as fuck
>>43048370Every mare is hot so your argument is moot.
>>43048217The tricks she's doing are more like real stage magic and illusions. It's been shown stage magicians and escape artists are a real thing in Equestria. There's a few possibilities as to how it works and why it entertains people. Maybe it not being done with the obvious spells is why it's so exciting. Everyone knows Twilight or Celestia could get on stage and vanish something for real. They're entertained by the character she's portraying, excellent showmanship, and unexpected ways she performs the tricks...Actually there is quite a parallel to professional wrestling. There's real fighting sports but people watch WWE anyway, knowing that Cena can't actually beat up Mike Tyson.The two village idiots of course don't comprehend this and bring a real dangerous threat to her and put her life in danger because they're reeeeetardeeed.
>>43048579Even her?
>>43048291She's performing. David Copperfield doesn't get up and remind everyone during his act "yeah by the way none of this is real, I'm actually ordinary and not doing magic". It's such a swing and a miss from the writers. There's quite a few fucked "morals" in the first seasons like Mare Do Well etc.If they really wanted to portray what you're suggesting, they needed to have Trixie NOT be a performance artists, and instead do illusions in casual settings pretending to be the most powerful unicorn ever and use the fear of her powers to make the townspeople do stuff she wants... Instead they have her performing as a professional illusionist (do you think she should call herself "the ordinary and weak Trixie" for her act instead?) entertaining crowds during a show even other unicorns turn up to enjoy, and being so kind as to stay in character for her Make-a-Wish kid retard tier fans.
>>43048217>>4304829195% of the fandom portrays her as a narcissistic cunt, at some point you have to ask yourself why.
>>43048291>defending a sex fiend's writing abilitiesNot a good look...
>>43048324Since the episode was called boast busters, that means she didn't do anything wrong when she embarrassed the m6 for calling her out. The bad thing she did was lying about her abilities, not defeating hecklers.
>>43048324>Trixie was a huge cunt. That's the point. It's also what makes her character interesting, sad and funny.Indeed, I love her flaws and all.>>43048873I'm not saying she isn't a cuntbag, she just isn't a one dimensional cuntbag.
>>43048963She is very much a one dimensional cunt, there isn't any depth to her because her entire personality is just being a cunt and nothing else.She isn't a good character because the show tries to treat her as a good person by pairing her with the heroes when she's really just a shit person that the others can't stand. If the show continued to treat her like the shitty person she is after Boast Busters, then that'd be fine, but it doesn't.
two groups of retards fighting over a character that's equally shit no matter how you spin it
>>43048757Then the moral in your new scenario would shift from bragging and belittling others, to plain as day physical intimidation. Boast busters and mare do well critics can't seem to grasp any moral about the consequences of over bragging without gluing it to worse acts of villainy in a rewrite.
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>>43049090As the person who wrote that top post, I think it's fine to enjoy Trixie as a villain because that's what she was meant for and she's very entertaining in that role. The moment you start trying to sympathize with her, it's all over for you.
>>43049556Yeah, I would agree if she STAYED the villain and kept being treated as such, but she isn't. That's what I'm trying to say.
>>43048712 he deleted this like he thought no one would notice, must've realized it never harmed her character because she never had any real character to harm in the first place lol
>>43049562Yeah, that was silly of them. I'm pretty sure, much like Alicorn Twilight, if they'd known season 3 wasn't the end they wouldn't have had Trixie apologize.
>>43049090She did things wrong, but she wasn't that bad, there wasn't anything horrendously wrong with her, she was just really immature. She doesn't deserve all this hate that you're laying on her.
>>43049704i think selfish narcissists deserve the worst, actually
>>43049800How could you say that about somepony so snowpitiful?
Trixie didn't become a real villain until she got the amulet, and then she was only bad for that one episode. Her first appearance was just the mane six sperging at her act then getting felted in front of the entire town by a pro showpony. It's arguable she exploited the slow kids but that would be a different moral angle than what was implied.I suggest this guy doesn't understand Trixie very well.
>>43050144the writers failed at making a good character, it's as shrimple as that
>>43050160Trixie is one of the deepest characters in the show, since she's two dimensional instead of just being a living embodiment of one particular personality trait element.
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>>43050144>real villainSo she was a villain? Or at the very least an antagonist. The writers sucked at it because I understand making being a braggart a negative trait, but her magic show blurred the line behind the act and her personality. It was her personality that was awful, but I say that was less of a focus than her act which was the downfall of the episode. And you are correct that Twilight's friends were stupid and it really sucks. It's like Dan VS hating magicians, but he has reasons to hate magicians and he is a spiteful man. The ponies randomly just didnt like Trixie's act (before they knew her personality).
>>43050166Unironically true. Fluttershy, Applejack, and Pinkie Pie are like the Flat 3, they're walking stereotypes of their given archetype that don't do anything innovative with them.
>>43049556You can sympathize with villains without turning them into a dindu. We've all had days where we want to destroy Twilight Sparkle and take over the world.>>43050244>3/6Bait used to be believable.
>>43050249Should it be more? Dash and Rarity are the clear winners which just leaves Twilight. Her execution was sloppy but she still has the most development out of the entire cast.Being a flat character doesn't necessarily mean bad or boring. The m6 are popular archetypes seen everywhere, people eat this shit up like candy.
>>43050267Twilight is the most one dimensional teacher's pet smart gurl. Her development, if any beyond wings, didn't change this.>people eat the slopYour endorsement shines.
>>43050166LMAOOOOOOO
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