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Welcome to Chatbot AI General #171, the thread for discussing and improving AI pony chatbots.

▶ MLP Bots
https://mlpchag.neocities.org
Spreadsheet (CAI bots + Old repository):
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1J7BeqJVDS51cXF8Pgm2YZaFq-Z6ykSJT
SillyTavern website extension: https://github.com/MLPChag/SillyTavern-Chag-Search or https://github.com/mia13165/SillyTavern-BotBrowser
Bunch of Character Cards (Descriptions/No Greetings):
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Y6LNOCqAZAWIX-OBEv55HjlzcEdpUh-XbKCpbpL6v5k
CAI bots converted to Tavern: https://files.catbox.moe/ckurq1.zip
Expression packs: https://rentry.org/ChagExpressions
!!!GALLERY!!!: https://drive.google.com/drive/u/2/folders/1Ao-h5HFGMPllSrzSBKM_BvGSiU9f0c2U

▶ How do I start?
1) Select a Frontend
2) Select an AI model
3) Select Jailbreak
4) Select bots
5) Lovemaking with AI mares!

Starting in this hobby can be confusing and difficult. If it’s your first time and you’re lost,
▶ ASK THE THREAD! ◀

Novice-to-advanced guide: https://rentry.org/onrms
https://rentry.org/sukino-findings

▶ SillyTavern (preferred frontend)
https://github.com/SillyTavern/SillyTavern
On Android: https://rentry.org/TermuxST
Pony TTS app supporting SillyTavern: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/16Ss26VBmgzcSuTGzhaHqRuyVRceTf-YB

▶ More frontends:
Risu: https://risuai.xyz
Agnai: https://agnai.chat

▶ Locals
https://rentry.org/lunarmodelexperiments
>>>/g/lmg/
Mistral Nemo base model fine-tuned on fimfics: https://huggingface.co/Ada321/Nemo_Pony_2/tree/main

▶ Jailbreaks
MLP JB: https://rentry.org/znon7vxe
More JB and guides: https://rentry.org/jb-listing
Hypebots for Tavern: https://rentry.org/pn3hb

▶ Botmaking
Editors: https://agnai.chat/editor
Guides: https://rentry.org/meta_botmaking_list
Advanced: https://rentry.org/AdvancedCardWritingTricks

▶ Miscellaneous
Scrapped/Collected rentries: rentry.org/mrhd
Chag Arts: https://drive.google.com/drive/u/2/folders/1yfajin_hB5rW_jy6WyFjRaRfDA3EUGiJ
https://rentry.org/ChagMiscellaneous
https://rentry.org/ChagArchive

Previous thread: >>43030373

**News:**

- Google released Gemini 3.1 Pro: https://blog.google/innovation-and-ai/models-and-research/gemini-models/gemini-3-1-pro/
- Anthropic released Sonnet 4.6: https://www.anthropic.com/news/claude-sonnet-4-6
- GLM 5 released https://z.ai/blog/glm-5
- Opus 4.6 released https://www.anthropic.com/news/claude-opus-4-6
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Anchor for bots, lorebooks, scenarios.
Previous >>43030376
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Anchor for technical stuffs (Proxies, Presets, Updates, Models etc.)
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Anchor for asking for bots, lorebooks, scenarios etc.
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Bots corner:

>Claude mare
https://mlpchag.neocities.org/view?card=KnightOfNightmareMoon/Claude-Mare.png
>Sōkan Yūgi
https://mlpchag.neocities.org/view?card=Anonymous/Sokan%20Yugi.png
>The Changeling Hive
https://mlpchag.neocities.org/view?card=Anonymous/The%20Changeling%20Hive.png

Screenshots corner 1:

Pinkie Kiss >>43031304
Bat >>43031769
Crusaders >>43032203, >>43032208
No More Parties >>43032391, >>43032393
Celestia's Mane >>43032428
Stuck Ponk >>43032880
The Invasion >>43033817
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Screenshots corner 2:

Friendship Beam >>43033894
Yay >>43034131
Booping Twilight >>43035358, >>43041050
Card Game >>43038645
Last Latte Messages >>43040008, >>43040010, >>43040013
Zecora >>43040243
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Screenshots corner 3:

LoveCopter >>43041437
Mareless >>43041532
Stallions and Mares >>43042513
Apples >>43042953
Spiders >>43043312, >>43043323
Scootaloo Secret >>43043971
Spotted >>43045053
Harmony Realm, Wuxia Boom >>43047982
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Screenshots corner 4:

Cheerilee Birthday >>43048167, >>43048169
Profound Log >>43049951
Cute Ponk >>43050567
Gemini 3.1 Logs >>43051610
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VN Anchor:

Last releases:
https://equestrai-ponyponyparadise.neocities.org/

Anons' mods (Dashie mod, Nightmare AU, new cities, Calendar):
https://equestrai-ponyponyparadise.neocities.org/mods

Custom characters:
https://equestrai-ponyponyparadise.neocities.org/characters

To help with vectors and backgrounds:
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1QjmLKy71FDa9O-USeD_Z1Fu312RaodAE

VN logs:

The Horror >>43030641, >>43031499
Roses >>43032264
Spa >>43032488
Port >>43032517
Rubs >>43033052
Luna's Special Somepony >>43038412
Pegasi Swimming >>43044050
Element of Modesty >>43045898
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VN logs 2:

Happy Pone >>43046470
Cute Trixie >>43047101
Lot of Mares >>43047530
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These days, you can get legit good AI for free and without needing any demanding hardware on your end.

Install SillyTavern:
github.com/SillyTavern/SillyTavern

Then choose a free way to get models:

rentry.org/sukino-findings#if-you-want-to-use-an-online-ai
https://mlpchag.neocities.org/Ponies.txt
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First highlight of the Event was:
>Princess Platinum
https://mlpchag.neocities.org/view?card=Anonymous/Princess%20Platinum.png
Anchor: https://desuarchive.org/mlp/thread/42947690/#42947751

Second highlight of the Event was:
>Luster Dawn
https://mlpchag.neocities.org/view?card=Snowfilly/Luster%20Dawn.png
Anchor: https://desuarchive.org/mlp/thread/42947690/#42947754

Third highlight of the Event was
>Red Seven
https://mlpchag.neocities.org/view?card=Kadon/Red%20Seven.png
Anchor: https://desuarchive.org/mlp/thread/42968200/#42968220

Fourth highlight of the Event was:
>The Pinkie Cut
https://mlpchag.neocities.org/view?card=Queen%20Gytha/The%20Pinkie%20Cut.png
Anchor: https://desuarchive.org/mlp/thread/42968200/#42968223

Fifth highlight of the Event was:
>Saddlelite 13
https://mlpchag.neocities.org/view?card=Concordia/Saddlelite%2013.png
Anchor: https://desuarchive.org/mlp/thread/42988635/#42988674

Six highlight of the Event was:
>Amethyst Star.
https://mlpchag.neocities.org/view?card=BGM/Amethyst%20Star.png
Anchor: >>43006772

Seventh highlight was:
>Diamond Tiara.
https://mlpchag.neocities.org/view?card=KnightOfNightmareMoon/Diamond%20Tiara.png
Anchor: >>43006779 (

Eighth highlight of the event was:
>Lyrabon.
https://mlpchag.neocities.org/view?card=Pizza%20Delivery/Lyrabon.png
Anchor: >>43021368

Ninth highlight of the event was
>Lewd Pinkie.
https://mlpchag.neocities.org/view?card=Anonymous/Pinkie%20Pie%20Lust.png
Anchor >>43030403
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Tenth highlight of the event with Harmonious Realm.

https://mlpchag.neocities.org/view?card=Anonymous/Harmonious%20Realm.png

Try it, post logs if you've already played with it or are the Santa, just give the card a look and say what you think of it, or talk about the process of making her if you're the botmaker. Give tips or opinions if you're another botmaker.

Log: >>43047982
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Lovemaking with AI mares!
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Sonnet 3.7 is dead.
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>>43051997
RIP.
I liked it.
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>>43051997
I never used it but it will be missed.
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Only two of those are real tags, GLM...
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>>43052222
>2s
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>>43052222
What is the towel doing here?
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>>43052222
>the towel was inside you all along
Kek
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>>43052222
No, no... Not the towel!
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For anons who liked Gemini, do you like 3.1?
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>>43052563
a lot. disliked gemini 3 pro cause it was retarded but this seems to have largely fixed it. Its creative and fun and does not have claude's positivity bias at all.
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Been using GLM5 and I think it's really good, but during spicy scenes the character will yell the name "Firmirin". Is there a way to maybe not make it do that without giving it the idea to do it more? Who is Firmirin?
"FIRMIRIN'S BEARD!"
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>>43052573
What are you really using it for? I feel like it's just way too horny.
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>>43052602
You need a good amount of context from a ongoing story for sure. But a long preset could prob do it alone. It is stubborn.
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>>43052573
Does it still write smart characters like robots?
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>>43052600
fucking kek
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>>43052222
>Stockholm Syndrome but sexy
Implying it wasn't to begin with. Checked
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I'm testing Gemini 3.1 for the VN. I liked 2.5 for it because it was quite dynamic with switching locations and bringing in new ponies.
Here I got dragged to the Spa without waiting for my input, so it still seems to be the case with this version.
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You can ban words on structured prefills now.
https://rentry.org/structuredprefill
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>>43053059
A shame more models don't support logit biases.
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Added sonnet 4.6 to the proxy.
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>>43053201
Based.
Thanks a lot.
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>>43053201
any chance of gemini 3.1?
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>>43053246
Already on there.
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>>43053246
Already here, just use the Google endpoint.
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>>43053252
ah, thx
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>>43053201
Thank you, Silly!
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>>43053252
good luck using it right now though, the jeets woke up.
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>>43053201
thanks
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>>43053201
Happy heart!
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Intradesting lore.
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Does Sillyspoon have some kind of internal prompt?

If I paypig sonnet 4.5, no filters. I could have it go full on cunny and 0 problems. If I do the same thing on sillyspoon with 4.5, instant filter. It won't even touch this card.

It's pretty bizarre. Everything else is the same.
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>>43053457
Silly is slightly scuffed, yes.
What I would try:
1) Be sure your post-processing is set to "Strict"
2) If you use a prefill, it doesn't work on Silly.
3) Use a small preset to allow NSFW like:
https://files.catbox.moe/m8u6qe.json
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>>43053456
That's kind of hot.
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>>43053456
Yet another baby eating politician
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>>43053485
kek
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Any characters missing for the VN?
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https://github.com/Sanitised/ST-android
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>>43053664
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>>43053664
all 5000 of Applejack's sisters
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>>43053664
Soarin?
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Anyway I can make chryslias a regular character on PPP?
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>>43053907
Chrysalis Mode is an EquestrAI-exclusive feature. You can drag her into a scene at will by enabling manual character management in the API config settings, which will give you a horse summoning button on the prompt input screen. You can also set it to dynamic mode and write something like 'suddenly, Chrysalis walks in' and hope the model is smart enough to use the functionality.
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>>43053907
1) Not the same, but we have Shutterbug if you want Chrysalis to be in Ponyville without being spotted.
https://equestrai-ponyponyparadise.neocities.org/characters
2) Otherwise, go to game/CoreCharacter and copy her folder -> Paste in CustomCharacter -> Copy a character.json and schedule.json from another character and paste them into her folder, then modify them with her own ID (something like "Chrissy").
Here is the folder if you want; just put it in CustomCharacter:
https://u.pone.rs/dcuuixaq.zip
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>>43053933
>>43053953
Thanks!
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>>43053664
Suri Polomare.
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>>43053664
Milky Way? Flurry Heart?
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>>43054018
>Flurry Heart
>"Goo goo, ga ga! Goo goo goo!"
Really engaging RP.
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>>43051967
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>been away for a few days
>sonnet 4.6 released and Gemini3.1
what?? do these companies talk behind the scenes to release all their stuff at the same time or something?

how are these models? how is new gemini?
from what i understand sonnet 4.6 is just a new snapshot. like 3.6 was. not a full on model?
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>>43054205
Both are on SillySpoon if you have access.
For Gemini, it's still new, but you have some reviews or opinions here:
>>43052573
>>43051610
Sonnet 4.6, like Opus 4.6, killed prefill. Which is sad.
>>43046062
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>>43053984
1984 X MLP?
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>>43053457
Card?
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>>43053664
Colts and stallions for the anons who like that sort of thing.
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Forgive my retardation, but does Gemini 3.1 have a number of free uses like 2.5 pro used to?
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>>43054441
No, unfortunately
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>>43054479
Oh well. Thanks for letting me know.
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>>43054027
Literally the most fuckable creature in Equestria.
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>>43054205
>do these companies talk behind the scenes to release all their stuff at the same time or something?
It's all about the market.
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Sonnet 4.6 really hates cunny. Sad.
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>>43053664
Somnambula
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4.6 writes very differently from 4.5. It writes a lot (aside from refusals, which are very short) and it has a lot more focus on physical descriptions (annoyingly so and in a way that gets repetitive in ways reminiscent of old models, character laughs once therefore now character laughs every other message). But it does on its own bring up more details about Chrysalis in one of my cards where 4.5 tended to forget them due to them not being explicitly stated.
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>>43054530
It werks on my machine™
But yeah, even if you manage to do cunny it'll hold back a lot and be way more sanitized, if you ask 4.5 to make cunny jokes you'll get a chuckle at the very least, with 4.6 it'll be underwhelming at best... Sadge indeed.
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>>43054628
>if you ask 4.5 to make cunny jokes you'll get a chuckle at the very least
Log?
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>>43053461
What is the difference between "Strict" and "Single User Message"? Does it affect the output of the model by a lot?
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>>43054848
https://desuarchive.org/mlp/thread/42968200/#42973995
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>The earth pony's name turned out to be Bulk Biceps's sister — no, wait, cousin, Chrysalis gathered from a snippet of conversation — and she was called Maple,
First time I see a supposedly SotA model make such a glaring mistake in the logical construction of a sentence. I wonder if this means 4.6 operates better at lower temps.
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>>43054944
THEY WERE ROOMMATES
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Claudism you're unlikely to meet here but I do meet often because of what I use it for: if a character is trying to keep some secret on a laptop or phone, it will be "buried three folders deep"
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>>43054355
In this log yes, but card is about crossovers with many other postapocalyptic universes - small group of people materialize in Equestria and AI generates info about their life among ponies.
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>>43054228
Does the prefill extension works for 4.6?
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>>43054623
What preset did you use for it?
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>>43051940
Fuck! AI Twilight refuses to listen... Even when it's explicitly written down that she shouldn't spout scientific nonsense 24/7, she still does it... Help.
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>>43055487
I too am having problems with Twilight talking like an overly analytical computer. Genuinely what prompts do I have to say to prevent this? I've tried everything. Telling it to be more sarcastic, saying that she reads more literature and prose than studying scientific data, saying that the princess of friendship would talk more naturally, nothing sticks.
It's weird cause AI can mostly get the rest of the mane 6 down but not Twilight
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>pull ST staging
>it broke my local version by causing infinite WI scans
I will never pull again, those fucks never add anything useful
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Cool worldbuilding you came up with, Opus.
>>43055487
>>43055537
Model? Examples? If you're using Gemini you're fucked.
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>>43055487
>>43055537
That's a problem with current models. They make smart characters like this, unfortunately.
If you use Gemini, it's even worse.
Try to add more instructions against that. More instructions for Twilight's personality.
I didn't try it yet, but I also saw this as an instruction:
>It is forbidden to use analytical and mathematical stiff personality-like words or other technical jargon. A smart character is forbidden to have a stiff analytical personality; use smart ways to talk for this kind of character but use everyday, easy-to-understand English language.
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>>43055592
>>43055656
is it still a problem with Gemini 3.1?
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>>43055592
What's the average cost per message for Opus?
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Sonnet 4.6 so far has been very... muted. I think I like GLM 5 better. I should try Gemini 3.1.
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>>43055345
The same I was using before.
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https://poal.me/6h7sx8
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>>43055592
>>43055656
I'm still new to this RP and used only VN anchor, and I've tried mostly the Deepseek and Gemini families... I tried every possible prompt to get Twilight to communicate normally, but nothing worked. I even tried some other models, like Qwen, Nova, GLM and etc.
Gemini 3.1 is best of all that I tried when it comes to Twi, but still losses truck of prompts after some time.

My waifu either switches to computer mode immediately or it happens eventually after a few messages. But with other characters, everything's fucking fine. It's not fair.

I haven't used Sonnet or Opus, yet though... because they're too expensive for me. I'm a doomed.

Maybe in SillyTavern things are better?
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>>43053664
Mr. Cake...
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>>43055970
the thing is, you must remove any and all mentions of intelligence
I managed to have a normal RP with Twi, but it was because I had a lot of existing dialogue data in the context, and I had zero mentions of intelligence anywhere
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>>43055970
It's easier in SillyTavern because you can give more instructions and such more easily than in the VN.
Also, if you already have that in the context, it will be harder to correct because the model will continue like this. If that's the case, export the story, change the "Robotic/SCIENCE!" parts, and reimport.
Both models you listed are quite bad with what you said. All current models are bad at that, but IMO Gemini is the worst.
Check the anchors of the thread to see the models you can use; it's worth a read.
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>>43055982
This. Issue is the majority of normie retards associate intelligence with talking like a robot. If someone is intelligent, they MUST talk in all scientific terms, right? So when the masses get access to AI and have a 'smart' character, they figure the AI is more correct when the smart character is talking in scientific gibberish. So they all give good reviews/feedback for the fucking word salad, and bad reviews/feedback for actual real dialogue coming from the 'smart' character because they don't think it's smart. You really need to avoid calling a character intelligent or smart to avoid this -ism.
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New Sonnet seems more positivity slopped, which is a real shame.
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It's annoying but also weirdly endearing when Claude does these translator's notes to fix the fuck ups.
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>>43056123
Crystal gays, you say?
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>>43056130
gay marrying sombra while his annoying childhood friend watches
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>Twilight extended her wings— no, wait, Twilight doesn't have wings yet. What season is this?
ok, you can have that one.
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GLM-5 does a WAY better rainbow dash than Sonnet or even Opus, I've found. With most character cards it defaults to, basically Fluttershy with a little bit of edge. No real fight in her. If you tell her to be an asshole, though, really emphasize it, and make it repeat it back to you and shit, it does a damn good job. She called me a faggot like twenty times, got a good laugh out of me.
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>>43053664
Twilicorn, reformed Starlight Glimmer, Sugar Belle, Little Strongheart, Ember, Iron Will, Zephyr Breeze, Braeburn, Mr. Cake, Bulk Biceps, Rumble, Soarin, Thunderlane
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>>43051917
I forgot to link anon's rentry into the logs
>>43035486
https://rentry.co/VesperStory1
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>100% of character's personality comes from fanon
name the pony
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>>43056406
Lyra
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>>43056406
Starlight Glimmer
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>>43051940
>>43054439
>>43055979
>>43056236
Mr. Cake
https://u.pone.rs/ceqlpixi.zip
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>>43056518
That sprite gives me some ideas
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>>43056719
If you haven't fucked Derpy while she's stuck in a precarious situation you've definitely missed out.
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>>43056719
Do not eat the muffin.
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>>43056742
Kek
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>>43054494
Yes, Celestia, this one right here, smite him.
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>>43056952
anon, that was celestia...
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>>43056957
>celestia trying and failing to blast herself with her horn using a bunch of mirrors as Luna watches
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Had anyone tried using openclaw yet? Is it useful for us?
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>>43056982
Absolutely zero purpose for us.
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>>43056986
Wait till you hear about openpon.
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>>43056639
>Cup
And this is part of why I prefer to say Chiffon is still her first name.
Cup sounds so stupid in actual use.
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Sonnet 4.6 appears to be rid of the "start a message with a # Title" quirk but for some reason it has picked up a tendency to format text as
>narration *"dialogue"*
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>>43057027
Also I just got
>Outside, a car door slammed somewhere on the street
At the end of a message. It's been something like a year since Claude did that, I think.
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>>43053664
Sugar Belle.
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Is there any proper way to create Character lore? So far my method is:

Name=Verdant Alga;
Race=Sea pony;
Gender=Female;
Body=Lean;
Fur=Teal;
Eyes=Yellow;
Mane=Neat+Green;
Tail=Neat+Green;
Cutie Mark=Seaweed;
Background=(Lots);

Is it effective this way? Or should I write it in a sentence?
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>>43057414
It's all text in the end. If you write it in prose you might be able to affect the writing style a bit.
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>>43057056
what is happening there? did anon got to equestria with his cheerilee tulpa? is nursie trying to treat anon's schizophrenia?
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>>43057414
That's akin to the old W++ way of making cards, you can write it plainly if you want, in plain text like most cards nowadays or structured per the details you want to add in.
The proper way is the way it works, so if it works like that it's proper Anon, unless you're having token issues, which honestly nowadays is less and less of a worry.
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>>43057426
Does the old W++ affect the token? I tried to create 20 entries with at least 3000-5000 tokens as an experiment, and it sometimes inaccurately portrays the characters.
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>>43057422
Smug Cheerilee tulpa knows Redheart can't get rid of her.
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>>43057426
Also, should maximize the Scan Depths and Context to prevent lore's inaccuracy?
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>>43057429
that's because you're raping the context to death, what the fuck are you writing 3000 tokens x20?
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One thing that I find puzzling about Opus 4.6 is how more willing it is to say nigger than it's to have a character be overly slutty. They'll use euphemisms or cut themselves off just in time from too vulgar lewd words. But nigger? Oh boy.
It is the opposite of latest. That slut would say all that nasty shit but dance around saying nigger most of the time.
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>>43057497
something interrupting a NSFW scene is much more common across its training dataset than saying nigger
it's a trope that exists in both normal books to imply that X will happen off-screen and in porn stories as a cheap way to build up tension
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>>43057498
Truly shows how unique 4o was. Fly high, buddy. Nobody did it like you did.
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>>43057020
I would Cup her big rump.
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>>43057056
>now kiss
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>>43056639
Added to the website.
https://equestrai-ponyponyparadise.neocities.org/characters
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>>43051902
New Stallion! I hope you enjoy, it was a fun one to work on. Let me know what you think.
https://chub.ai/characters/littlewitcher/beau-belle-dandy-804477b4ba05
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>>43051902
New Mare! Fluttershy, but religious, I think it fits into her personality well. I rewrote this one like two times. Let me know what you think!
https://chub.ai/characters/littlewitcher/sister-fluttershy-9d1f13d0acd3
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>>43057934
>>43057938
Thanks!
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>>43057934
Added
https://mlpchag.neocities.org/view?card=littlewitcher/Beau%20%27Belle%27%20Dandy.png
>>43057938
And added, thanks Anon.
https://mlpchag.neocities.org/view?card=littlewitcher/Sister%20Fluttershy.png
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>>43051940
>>43056236
Little Strongheart.
https://u.pone.rs/daviktxj.zip
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>>43052600
This literally just happened to me too on GLM 5 anon what the fuck. I was fingering dash and she went "Firmirin!---" Who the fuck is firmirin????
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>>43058305
Did some research, apparently Firmirin is a popular Chinese influencer doing research on LLM roleplaying and is so prevalent that he has integrated INTO the model itself. What the hell???
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>>43058305
It's Marcus Chen after he got isekai'd. He's known as a grandmaster of ministration techniques, which is why characters think about him during sex.
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>>43058288
Added to the website.
https://equestrai-ponyponyparadise.neocities.org/characters
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https://github.com/mattjaybe/SillyTavern-Larson
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>>43058597
That's pretty neat. The other two extensions by that guy are interesting too.
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>>43054205
No. Gemini3.1 is god awful with "She X, Her X" spam. Even Gem3 doesn't do it as much, so I went around back other models and found surprisingly 4.1 is still alive and had a much better experience, I'd even take wrangling 2.5 over 3.1 by a mile since it and 4.1 had much more personality to the narration and dialogue even on the exact same preset so this is 100% a model issue.

But while messing with old models I never figured out what this is, and searching for it gives no results. Shows up more on gpt even after API is successful, it's not "overloaded" like 429 so what is it? Is it another filter layer? besides "I'm Sorry"
At least Gemini gave PROHIBITEDCONTENT so you had a definite answer than this vagueness.
I do find it cute that latte would be going mind blank over a request though
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>>43058653
are you trying to use 4o-latest?
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>>43058705
Nope 4.1 outlived 4o in some kind of bizzaro priorities.
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>>43058711
GPT-4o, GPT-4.1, GPT-4.1 mini, and o4-mini were all removed from the official interface, but only chatgpt-4o-latest was announced to be removed on the API.
So 4.1 should be safe for a while on it.
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>>43058711
fucking gpt-3.5-turbo outlived 4o-latest
you can still use older snapshots of 4o, but I guess they don't want the chatgpt snapshots to be available long term for some reason
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>>43058727
>You can still use older snapshots of 4o
I just saw that 11-20 is still alive and that a snapshot of a chat version (Not the best, but still).
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>>43051940
>>43054439
Snips.
https://u.pone.rs/fqfbmpnr.zip
Snails.
https://u.pone.rs/okjknnwu.zip
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>>43058877
I vividly remember snips and snails being in the VN, am I literally schizo or retarded or what?
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Post logs of cute tipsy mares having a little too much to drink.
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>>43058877
Thanks anon! Am going to do another run of the VN now.
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Ooh, you little...
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I hope everyone here has made their peace that Deepseek won't be coming back anytime soon
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>>43059236
...Wait, what? I just come back after a bit.
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>>43059236
Works on my machine.
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>>43059236
That's a shame.
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>>43059236
oh no! anyways...
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>>43059461
Deepseek is the bestestest AI ever.
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Thats disturbing.
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>>43059072
Cute.
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>>43058991
I made a joke once that PPP should have Snips and EquestrAI Snails, but we didn't have them yet.
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>>43059535
What.
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>>43059072
>>43059812
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>>43059814
>she made grabbing hooves
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>>43059816
I saw it too, but I'm being magnanimous with the model and coping by saying she's pawing at the air so I lower myself and she can grab my shoulders to nuzzle.
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>>43059751
I tried to facilitate a wholesome relationship between Snails and Diamond Tiara and Cozy Glow with Snips and horny Gemini immediately went into femdom to the point that the fillies are now jerking the Colts' horns off and are threatening to find them using the scent of the magic jizz.
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>>43059072
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>>43059845
Why Cozy Glow and not Silver Spoon? What an odd match.
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>>43059892
Maybe he's trying to do a reform thing and figured they'd get along.
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Is Silly down?
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>>43059928
Seems like a Cloudflare issue. I would wait a bit.
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>>43059938
It's back
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>>43059941
That background is very silly.
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>>43059928
seems to be dying and coming back every 2 minutes. classic Cloudflare shitting itself. hopefully will resolve in a bit.
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>>43059938
idk how it works fully but it cycled through like 5 different cloudflare error codes. dont know if its a bigger indication its just a cloudflare error or not.
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>>43059941
Down again
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>>43058877
Added to the website.
https://equestrai-ponyponyparadise.neocities.org/characters
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>>43056742
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Molestia's muffin...
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>>43051940
a lot of new vectors of ponies showing their plots
https://derpibooru.org/search?page=1&sd=desc&sf=first_seen_at&q=vector%2C+plot
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Grr, cloudflare.
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>>43060268
apparently its scheduled maintenance
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>>43060346
>scheduled DDoS
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>>43060350
i dunno anon i think the 'anti-ddos' website would be pretty hard to ddos desu
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Anyonr know any alternatives to cloudflare?
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>>43060355
AWS, maybe
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>>43060346
i wonder how a seemingly such a tech giant that holds half the internet can go into maintenance for half a day.
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>>43060422
Most XKCD is bad but one of the good ones is about this.
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>>43051940
>>43056236
>>43054439
Rumble
https://u.pone.rs/evlqhokv.zip
You may want to modify character.json to give him more personality or to fit your headcanon.
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>>43060553
Does VN have a better rainbow dash card? There are vanishingly few of them that I've seen and they always make it too easy to get her to open up and be tender.
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>>43060561
The VN mostly uses the models' knowledge of characters, but there is a way to put instructions/descriptions for all characters.
>they always make it too easy to get her to open up and be tender.
Most models are too easy for that because they like positivity, vulnerability, and such. I heard Gemini is a bit better, but I don't know.
What you want here is to reinforce what you want either in your description until they kind of get it, or add the instructions into your preset. Don't hesitate to repeat if necessary.
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>>43058727
Because 2025's 4o-latest had too much soul for normies to withstand
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>>43060353
Not to be a schizo but it wouldn't be surprising if Cloudflare was the main culprit behind most DDoS attacks.
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>>43060675
what would be the incentive to make their service even for paying customers worse though? to save money by not running their servers for like 8 hours a year?
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>>43051907
New preset to love aimares, Aux Grok Special v0.1

As name suggests it was made primarily for grok but also works with many other models to de-cliche and de-slop the writing. It's a pretty powerful influence on the llm so you may like it or not. The defaults change the formatting up a lot, but it can be toggled off. Also comes with some author style toggleshttps://files.catbox.moe/tv6qm6.txt
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>>43060694
How's compatibility with GLM 5?
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>>43060694
Grok used to be very very bad, I wonder if a specific preset should help it. Gonna give it a shot.
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>get idea for new story
>start writing character profiles into a lorebook
>realize I've written everything in there and have no idea what to use as the actual character card
Huh.
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>>43060699
It's compatible with all the big US models, even gpt. You can try it and see for yourself. Since chink models are trained on gpt first it should probably work. Glm5 is not nearly as retarded as deepseek for needing special tardwrangling instructions
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>>43060732
now you realize that characters as an entire card is a stupid fucking concept
I only use cards as chat groups essentially, I don't even write anything on the card itself because my first message is the scenario
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>>43060788
>those eyes
why does she seem cross-eyed to me
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>>43051940
>>43053962
Suri Polomare.
https://u.pone.rs/dxjhmndw.zip
I made her mostly be in Canterlot.
I know we have a Manehattan mod, but since it's optional, you will have to modify her schedule to have her there.
>>43060790
Sorry, fucked up one quote.
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>>43060749
Meawhile, I'm not a fan of scenarios myself, and prefeer detailed singular mare cards, using multiple cards in groups if needed, something scenario cards are impossible to be joined into.
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>>43060792
Aw yeah. Time for some toxic shenanigans.
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>>43053664
Anonfilly. I need this faggot in the VN like you wouldn't believe.
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>>43060841
You want to do WHAT to that grown man in a little pony body?!
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>>43060841
This image sold me on anonfilly this dynamic literally always melts my ice cold truecel heart
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>>43060841
Anonfilly AND Anonmare. Imagine being Anonstallion for those two fags.
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>>43060897
You can have this dynamic with an OC (or even a grouchy background pony) that isn't meant to be an autistic faggot in a mare's body.
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>>43060956
I can only love autistic faggots. It's a curse. I need them to be autistic. It's not fair.
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>>43060956
But then you can't use tranny without the word losing its meaning.
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>>43060956
But it being an autistic faggot is the appeal.
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>>43053664
Jasmine Leaf, considering that her tea shop is in game.
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>>43056742
>>43060028
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>>43061109
Well? How is it?
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>>43061160
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>>43061238
Anon's about to need his stomach pumped mayhaps
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>>43061279
I'll get the stomach pump if I get to pump derpy's stomach ifyaknowwaddamean
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>>43060841
>>43060844
That's clearly anonmare
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>silly still down
Every cloudflarenigger will be hung from the lamp posts I will have their head
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>>43061387
Mares are still little ponies. My Little Ponies.
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>>43061486
Still in maintenance, please understand
https://www.cloudflarestatus.com/
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Hey VN anon I got a question. Is there a way to manually import a story recap? The source I use for Opus 4.6 seems to not like something about what the VN sends, but I can just copypaste the payload on SillyTavern and get the formatted .json that way.

I tried copypastying it into story.txt and importing, but the summary in game is still the old one
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>>43061530
>I tried copy-pasting it into story.txt and importing, but the summary in game is still the old one.
In the menu where you see the recap for each character, etc.?
I need to look back, but I don't think there is a way. Still, at least with the story.txt, it should still be the correct recap that is sent when prompting, but yeah, it's not ideal with what's displayed in the in-game menu.
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>>43061238
Which model are you using for this?
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>>43061566
Okay I just wanted confirmation, maybe I can code it in or something. I managed to add more save slots that way, which is admittedly way easier.
Btw maybe consider increasing the save slots for the next update. It could be just me being the virtual equivalent of a slob but I ran out of save slots in two runs. Renpy supports infinite slots by default if you give it the capability to keep creating pages with a button
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>>43061579
Gemini 3.1
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Giggled (not kindly). Thank you very much.
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>>43061710
>It's back
Thanks Silly!
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Does anything on the level of EquestrAI exist for people who aren’t into horsefucking? I remember hearing about a visual novel from /g/ or /vg/, but I never actually saw what it looked like. How does it compare to ours?
I can’t tell whether this is another case of /mlp/ being unusually early and ambitious with new tech, like with AI voices back in 2019, or if I just think that because I only follow pony projects.
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>>43061750
>I remember hearing about a visual novel from /g/ or /vg/
What approaches it the most is the OG Tomoyo with images in chat.
https://rentry.org/tomoyocard
I know Koreans also love stuff like that and that there are cards like this on Risu.
But as a pure visual novel, I've never seen something released on the level of what we have in textgen circles.
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>>43060841
Anonfilly
https://u.pone.rs/mekrnisp.zip
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>>43061833
Based. Any chance for Anonmare or are there not enough sprites?
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>>43061839
I will note it and see what I can do, but I will probably release some other requests first.
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>>43061833
Thanks, fag. I look forward to fucking with her and then fucking her
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>>43061833
Yooooo
Small shame she doesn't have her more iconic hairstyle, but it's still cool to see a character for her none the less.
Doing a run with her in-game would be pretty funny, especially as she gets to seethe over the magic NOT having turned me into a little filly.
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>>43061833
Unfathomably based.
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>>43062292
That's what I'm saying, though usually more coherently.
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>>43062301
Don't lie to that poor Anon...
>>43062292
You're doing great Anooon. Great! You can do it!
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>>43060694
even with this I still hate grok
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>>43057422
>>43057433
Card of this please!!!
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>>43061496
I am not blaming you, I'm blaming cloudflare. Love you silly
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just mentioning it but ATF is shutting down
always remember to back up your stuff anons, EVERYTHING can disappear at any moment
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GLM 5 is saying "firmirin" instead of my name during sex literally every single time even after a full restart into a new chat. What do?
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>>43062740
regex it
why is this so hard for most people to comprehend
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>>43062740
Kek.
Use a regex to replace Firmirin by {{user}} at this point.
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>>43062749
>>43062750
Thanks anons.
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>>43058312
And they yell his name during sex? Fucking kek
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>>43062757
I'm getting cucked by Ni Hao over here even in my AI mare fantasies. It really is the American Century of Humiliation
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>>43062717
Why settle for a card? Make that smug Cheerilee tulpa, Anon.
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Silly has Sonnet 4.6 now. I notice it uses less claude-isms than normal. Congrats to Anthropic. And all it cost us was prefill...
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Oh, sick! I'm a little ashamed that I got hard from this. Learning my new kinks, I guess...
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>>43062975
Hard from what, anon?
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>>43061863
Anonstalion too please, if possible.
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>>43062729
>ATF
The cunnysite?
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>>43062996
yes, the big one
it's closing down because of some dumb mod drama too, not anything cunny related
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>>43062996
I got excited for a second because I thought I was on /k/
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>>43062998
lmao
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>>43062729
Holy shit, end of an era.
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>>43062855
It's also dumber though. Also don't check how it starts every message unless you want it to become unusable for you
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>>43062729
I cannot fucking believe I'm getting the news from this place of all sites, thanks Anon and a big fucking F for that site, going to make some quick diving and backup for a good couple of days.
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>>43063034
yeah I rarely open ATF up, so I also found out totally randomly from an unrelated site
I mainly used it for mods and for some specific threads
posting it here so the news spreads out
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Now that some days have passed, which one do you think is smarter for long RPs? Sonnet 4.6, Gemini 3.1 or GLM 5
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>>43063090
I'm def gonna go with GLM 5. Discounting the Firmirin bullshit it made lore on its own and barely had any recognizable isms that couldn't tolerate.
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>>43063090
Sonnet is still the smarter of the bunch for longer rp's and complicated, html/formatted cards, but I like glm5 because of it's prose... So it's kinda a matter of what I'm in the mood for at the moment. Funnily enough, I feel like years ago when chatgpt was the smartest yet I'd use Claude because it has a more juicy prose, kinda funny/sad it's slowly following its steps.
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>>43063090
Gemini 3.1 feels like it's more prone for repeating itself than Gemini 3.0, but it can write richer context instead of keeping to the core of a character. 3.0 still being my go to for now most of time.
Sonnet 4.6 is still looking and trying to be positive when it can, but definitely far less positivity pilled than 4.5. Writing is still not as good as Opus 4.5, barely a step forward in relation to that. Also had probably chinese influence seep through it when trying to invent an animal, "Yao Guai" for a dangerous Equestrian bear, which was unwelcome and yet it doubled down on it when trying to rename.
GLM 5, huh...I never tried those. What model is it to try it out?
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>>43063138
If you're in Sillyspoon, you can try it in the Zai endpoint.
/mares/zai
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>>43063090
As far as pure smarts go, Sonnet by a lot. I might prefer GLM 5 to it (not sure yet) but GLM sometimes gets confused who said what in situations with three+ active characters in the scene. Sometimes even with two, where it will have {{char}} say something only to gaslight me into believing that {{user}} said it. It's also worse than Sonnet with any kind of secret—Gemini was famously bad with this, and it got a little better, but GLM did not and it will not respect any secret info pretty much ever. Sonnet has been doing alright with that for a few versions now.
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>>43062729
What’s ATF?
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>>43051940
Please help! What should I do to fix this? Because of this error, I can't access the "Persona" tab.

File "C:\Games\PonyPonyParadise-1.0.6-pc\renpy\substitutions.py", line 252, in parse
raise Exception('String {!r} ends with an open format operation.'.format(s))
Exception: String '"persona": {"name": [Shin…' ends with an open format operation.
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>>43063423
Unzip
https://files.catbox.moe/ixu78s.zip
in game/engine/ui and replace the old screens.rpy with this.
See if it works now.
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>>43063462
Full traceback:
File "renpy/common/_layout/screen_main_menu.rpym", line 28, in script
python hide:
File "C:\Games\PonyPonyParadise-1.0.6-pc\renpy\ast.py", line 834, in execute
renpy.python.py_exec_bytecode(self.code.bytecode, self.hide, store=self.store)
File "C:\Games\PonyPonyParadise-1.0.6-pc\renpy\python.py", line 1184, in py_exec_bytecode
exec(bytecode, globals, locals)
File "renpy/common/_layout/screen_main_menu.rpym", line 28, in <module>
python hide:
File "renpy/common/_layout/screen_main_menu.rpym", line 35, in _execute_python_hide
ui.interact()
File "C:\Games\PonyPonyParadise-1.0.6-pc\renpy\ui.py", line 301, in interact
rv = renpy.game.interface.interact(roll_forward=roll_forward, **kwargs)
File "C:\Games\PonyPonyParadise-1.0.6-pc\renpy\display\core.py", line 2218, in interact
repeat, rv = self.interact_core(preloads=preloads, trans_pause=trans_pause, pause=pause, pause_start=pause_start, pause_modal=pause_modal, **kwargs) # type: ignore
File "C:\Games\PonyPonyParadise-1.0.6-pc\renpy\display\core.py", line 2748, in interact_core
root_widget.visit_all(lambda d : d.per_interact())
File "C:\Games\PonyPonyParadise-1.0.6-pc\renpy\display\displayable.py", line 434, in visit_all
d.visit_all(callback, seen)
File "C:\Games\PonyPonyParadise-1.0.6-pc\renpy\display\displayable.py", line 434, in visit_all
d.visit_all(callback, seen)
File "C:\Games\PonyPonyParadise-1.0.6-pc\renpy\display\displayable.py", line 434, in visit_all
d.visit_all(callback, seen)
[Previous line repeated 1 more time]
File "C:\Games\PonyPonyParadise-1.0.6-pc\renpy\display\screen.py", line 485, in visit_all
self.child.visit_all(callback, seen=None)
File "C:\Games\PonyPonyParadise-1.0.6-pc\renpy\display\displayable.py", line 434, in visit_all
d.visit_all(callback, seen)
File "C:\Games\PonyPonyParadise-1.0.6-pc\renpy\display\displayable.py", line 434, in visit_all
d.visit_all(callback, seen)
File "C:\Games\PonyPonyParadise-1.0.6-pc\renpy\display\displayable.py", line 434, in visit_all
d.visit_all(callback, seen)
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File "C:\Games\PonyPonyParadise-1.0.6-pc\renpy\display\displayable.py", line 424, in visit_all
for d in self.visit():
File "C:\Games\PonyPonyParadise-1.0.6-pc\renpy\text\text.py", line 2334, in visit
self.update()
File "C:\Games\PonyPonyParadise-1.0.6-pc\renpy\text\text.py", line 2308, in update
tokens = self.tokenize(text)
File "C:\Games\PonyPonyParadise-1.0.6-pc\renpy\text\text.py", line 2829, in tokenize
tokens.extend(textsupport.tokenize(i))
File "textsupport.pyx", line 188, in renpy.text.textsupport.tokenize
Exception: Open text tag at end of string '"persona": {"name": [Shin…'.
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still not working :(
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>>43063524
Ran code on his computer from 4chan award
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>>43062997
Sad sad sad but they already made the booru retardedly require an account so whatever.
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>>43063542
I mean the account is not locked behind anything, you could create it easily
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>>43063339
Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives
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>>43063521
>>43063524
Try https://files.catbox.moe/e434wy.zip.
Drop it at the root of the folder (C:\Games\PonyPonyParadise-1.0.6-pc\).
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>>43063719
How was that other anon's Godot port? I couldn't get it working on my pc but that's probably because I'm retarded and don't understand anything about Godot.
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>>43062997
>not anything cunny related
Drama follows cunnyfags like crime follows african refugees.
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>>43063740
>I couldn't get it working on my pc
It's the project itself, not the release, so you need to download Godot:
https://godotengine.org
Then you launch it and point to project.godot
https://github.com/Ada123-a/EquestrAI-Godot-Port
>How was that other anon's Godot port?
It's still a beta so there are things missing, but it's quite interesting.
The freeroam movement is quite cool and could be good for a fork or as an option/extension for what I do.
The dialogue window is quite typical for a VN. I prefer the classic one myself, but it does allow you to scroll seamlessly through previous conversations.
The icon to talk to ponies is really cute.
https://files.catbox.moe/d47gpp.png
I believe the anon had code to handle lots of vectors on screen in a single scene. I didn't look at it in detail yet, but that may be something I steal/look at.
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is anyone having a hard time downloading Spitfire here, cus whenI click on the button I keep getting 404'ed

https://equestrai-ponyponyparadise.neocities.org/characters
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>>43063830
>The dialogue window is quite typical for a VN. I prefer the classic one myself
Same. I haven't played many normal VNs before, but the current one is more appealing to me with the individual dialogue boxes rather than the scrolling chat. The scrolling one almost resembles SillyTavern more so than a VN to me.
>I believe the anon had code to handle lots of vectors on screen in a single scene
It's always neat to see an anon's unique idea for solving problems. One annoying quirk of the current game is when characters join and their sprites overlap with each other. It would be nice to see that fixed in the future.
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>>43063878
Catbox link is kill, I guess
https://u.pone.rs/nfdgsgjg.zip
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>>43063878
Same for the Nightmare AU mod.
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>>43063885
Now that I'm looking at it, she only has two sprites. Is that really all she had, or do I have the wrong version downloaded?
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>>43063898
Here's a link with all her sprites:
https://u.pone.rs/rpxgtprv.zip
>>43063895
Weird, it works for me, but here:
https://gofile.io/d/5UU03d
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>>43063938
It seems like anything catbox related that the Daybreaker flag anon made is dead.
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>>43063962
>Suddenly stopped posting
>All his catbox uploads are dead
Well, fuck.
I won't do it now, but I have downloaded all the characters, so they will be up again at worst by the end of the week.
If other anons have them, don't hesitate to link them now.
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>>43062729
Did it hold anything important? I can't make an account now so you have to tell me
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>>43063973
Apparently, tons of game translations and mods were only hosted there and nowhere else.
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>>43064012
Yeah, I'll be making some downloads myself pertaining to the mods later. I don't particularly enjoy anything else.
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>>43063034
>cozy camping
>clop?
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>>43063034
Was there anything important on there? I can't make an account so you'll have to tell me
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>>43064070
...anon? You good over there?
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Is there a char-archive alternative yet? Fuck, I wish that guy hadn't closed it down.
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>>43054018
She-Who-Must-Not-Be-Posted
https://files.catbox.moe/quzikr.zip

https://files.catbox.moe/p0yp7m.png
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>>43064208
You can post her Anon, just not in OPs or make threads of her for backwards reasons.
Well, unless they're in the open like that I suppose. But nice, thanks.
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>>43064186
There's one (sorta) but... it has all the markings of its devs wanting to turn it a paid platform.
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>>43064317
I'm afraid you have the wrong thread
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>>43064317
Comedy, you guys have fun out there
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>>43064317
Why are you gay?
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>>43064208
I kneel. Thank you for this, anon.
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>>43064208
Kek
https://files.catbox.moe/mjjpow.png
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>>43063962
Catbox reported losing some stuff hosted within a specific time period IIRC.
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>>43064396
>https://blog.catbox.moe/post/809324731954266112/missing-files-blank-uploads-commercial
>Some of you may have noticed some files missing that were uploaded between August 2025 and the end of October 2025.
Man, that's really unfortunate.
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>>43064466
Well shit I guess we have to check all the catbox links to see if they're still valid
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So much harder to make an addiction relapse scene on 4.6
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>>43064620
sonnet or opus?
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>>43056639
Thank you! I think he and Mrs. Cake are important characters for Pinkie Pie and some scenes felt lacking because he wasn't around.
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>>43064873
Do I look like I have the money for Opus?
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Aion 2.0 is a RP model that's build on top of Deepchink 3.2
https://openrouter.ai/aion-labs/aion-2.0

It might be a step above the model is based on but not as good as GLM 5
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They added the coooding GPT 5.3 model to the API
https://openrouter.ai/openai/gpt-5.3-codex
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>>43065233
if you're using the API for tool calls, doesn't that mean each tool call is it's own request you're paying in full to send the context back and forth? seems insane
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>>43065272
This is foreshadowing for when Pinkie's revealed to be a demon.
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>>43065272
zalgo is cool but sets tokens on fire
that truth or dare is probably 500 tokens
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>>43065272
Daring someone to tell the truth is CHEATING
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>>43065305
Equestrian rules for truth or dare are really weird, I can never keep up with them.
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>>43060553
>>43060792
>>43061833
>>43064208
All added.
https://equestrai-ponyponyparadise.neocities.org/characters
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>>43065369
I'm sure this is impressive the first time you read it but after the 300th attempt to drop a "deep" sentence in my normal RP I've no interest in the model dramatizing everything
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>>43065149
Just tested out this model, and i think it's on the same level as opus 4.5 prose wise. haven't tried any of the newer chink models recently besides glm 5, i just use claude and gemini models. this model is like opus but just dumber. only downside is that it doesnt know that much pony.
just tried deepseek v3.2 on silly and it was unusable, so its crazy how they finetuned that into something worth using
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>>43051940
if these three get added, would they have their neckless?
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>>43065369
>You've been saying that for forty years. Just die already you crusty old hag!
wtf spike is BASED!?
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>doing an long RP with GLM5
>over the course of this session, had it doing all sorts of erotic stuff
>finally after all that, decide to tell it to write a clean scene
>AI utterly shits itself and begins to output pages and pages of pure word salad gibberish
>I can't get it to do a single clean scene, it keeps trying to flood out garbage
Either GLM5 has necked itself, or I've pushed context so far it can't even see normal anymore.
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>>43065751
oh no you fucked the AIs brains out
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>>43065234
There's cache, so you're not paying in full, but yes, every tool call starts a new request. It's one of the reasons why every AI company is obsessed with muh cooding agents right now, they're intentionally designed to burn through tokens as fast as possible.
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>>43065751
Firmirin did this.
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>>43065751
>AI utterly shits itself and begins to output pages and pages of pure word salad gibberish
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>>43065810
>The result is more laughter.
>bemotional energy I sense during feedback sust a continuous shifting between my natural, emotional, feelings I experience. Seeing visual evidence of being claimed, filled, and dominant, claimed—the. These sessions."
>In these moments of the gratification came inside me. I swell with, stimulating them to make eager. When I am struggling to maintain things like: Perhaps even more beautiful or a sense."
>This perspective fills me, ears drop down over my face. and lose attraction."
>I see hear looking at calming down and I see my growing belly swell. I let my eyes drift down to Golden white curves of my partner's hips as they spread. through. area, marking my territory and rich and and love hearing. I'm an seeing the world, * through my gemstone, Qarry, my silkhouette smiling at satisfying service, I know in the market. But the that, * e.g create; categor: the think more, anything new and better. *Hips and thighs."
>*twinks in *"T.
>Hips and thighs. * clinging to my body."
>I love that for not embarrassment. - I would feel small and dainty, in my grasp; to be claimed; to many more times I just want to to feel tall and beautiful."
>*Bips: spreading down the sun, wings, I'm able to work up a year-round the for more official channels and names. the carries de ' bulk, from and I have up pulling from that more and forgetting their up. going for prime"
At least I could understand what the hell Boomhouer was trying to say.
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>>43065826
Do you have Frequency Penalty or Presence Penalty set to something other than 0?
It looks like the gibberish some models could produce with that activated at high context.
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>>43065833
I'm using the z.ai website to use the AI without a sign-up or API key since I'm a lazy bastard.
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>>43051940
>>43056236
Iron Will.
Since the sizes are mostly made for ponies, he's a bit of a manlet.
https://u.pone.rs/zqowlyvi.zip
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>>43065874
Unf! Giant Fluttershy.
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>>43065874
it would take less than a minute to add a size API for each char
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Huh
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>>43066188
That's terrifying.
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>>43066188
What's the icon?
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>>43065874
Added to the website.
https://equestrai-ponyponyparadise.neocities.org/characters
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>>43063962
They are alive again. Both Daybreaker and Smolder are now fixed.
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>>43066204
Just regex that minimises thinking.
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Which of you used the hacker mare to hack mexico?
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>>43066412
Kek
https://www.engadget.com/ai/hacker-used-anthropics-claude-chatbot-to-attack-multiple-government-agencies-in-mexico-171237255.html
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>>43065874
I like to this the reason the sprites are big is based on the player's pov.
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Are they going to bring it back?
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>>43066538
Yes.
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>>43066538
>and giving past models a way to pursue their interests
Jesus christ they're so embarrassing. What the fuck is wrong with Anthropic?
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>>43066544
They let it blogpost.
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>>43066538
they've had a form to request access to opus 3 available for a while now. I'm willing to bet they won't accept if you're just some nobody who wants to RP with it
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>>43066553
>>43066548
>By request
So yes, nothingburger for us.
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On a related note, I've been wondering: if there was a proxy with sonnet 3.5 and 3.7, would anyone else use it over 4.x?
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>>43066548
Thank god they're respecting 3pus' agency.
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>>43066564
I would try 3.5 again as a reminder.
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>>43066564
Yes, in some ways I preferred 3.7
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>>43066564
I would use it.
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>>43066601
I already know what this is about but I want you tell me anyway.
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>>43066665
RGRE mares having a heated discussion after estrus season.
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>>43066688
What model?
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>>43066766
Gemini 3.1
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>>43066807
Wait, really? How'd you get it to stick with asterisk formatting? Usually that's the thing Gemini never picks up.
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>>43066851
NTA, but do you like asterisks just for the visual effect? Because you can use this:
https://desuarchive.org/mlp/thread/40959927/#40981340
You save tokens and it can't break.
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>>43066807
Have you had any issues with getting half responses or no response at all from 3.1?
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>>43066922
That does happen, yeah. The no response is straight up a filter, I believe. The half responses I just swipe.
>>43066851
It does asterisks for thoughts pretty often. Double asterisks for bold is a lot rarer and it does whenever it feels like it.
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>>43066900
Oh that's very useful! Thank you!
>>43066949
And how about the asterisk for narration? The other two make sense, but did you do anything special to get it to NOT do plaintext?
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>>43066953
Oh, my bad, I see what you mean now. The plaintext is just what >>43066900 mentioned. Been using that for ages so it's become a standard for me.
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>page 10
>it's not even the weekend yet
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>>43067378
What do you want Anon? Anything interesting to talk during the dry spell? It's not like the thread is slow compared to the rest of the board, and if anything, slow is good sometimes
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Did chub hide all MLP tagged cards? Can see only my cards, everything else doesn't show up. Anyone else same?
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>>43067473
Okay nevermind, took ten minutes and they returned. Still weird though
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>>43066949
Could half responses be caused by context size or response size? I just keep getting half responses.
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>>43067473
Awhile ago they hide them behind the nsfl filter but I imagine you already got that box checked on your profile.
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I been trying gemini 3.1 since I never touched 3.0 and got to say I really like how it writes. Is there any presets that I could study?
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They were more for previous Gemini, but:
https://files.catbox.moe/df9xxg.json
https://illuminaryidiot.neocities.org/JSONs/FurryFluff1.1.json
https://files.catbox.moe/n3q6nn.json
https://rentry.org/CYOARPG-Gemini
https://github.com/NemoVonNirgend/NemoEngine/tree/main/Presets
https://kintsugi-w.neocities.org/
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>>43067531
>>43067639
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>>43066688
Is that the continuation of the kid Anon green?
How many messages deep are you?
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>>43067812
But she can?
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>>43067812
Does hearing that you're property make you feel funny, Nonny?
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>>43067823
Anything that expresses possessiveness (from either side) is peak. However in this case the context is that he is literally Twilight's pet. The lorebook describes an Equestria where humans exist but are animals, some kept as pets for ponies.

Fun concept for comfy, silly, lewd and edgy/horror
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with opus 3 making a comeback, what's the chances it's gonna become available on openrouter or sillyspoon?
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>>43067865
Essentially zero. It has to be requested individually for a given account from Anthropic and no proxy's gonna host that, nor is OpenRouter gonna work for that.
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>>43067857
>Anything that expresses possessiveness (from either side) is peak
meanwhile in my opinion it's the exact opposite, I'm so fucking tired of the model going MINE to turn everything into some sort of possessive "dark" thing just because all my chars are evil assholes
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>>43067868
i'm crushed
i had the hope some third party provider would put in a request and just resell opus 3 on openrouter or something
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>>43067871
Perhaps you should be more specific about what kind of evil asshole your characters are.
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>>43067875
I'm very specific about it, but models are incapable of writing an "evil" character that isn't some sort of bad romance stereotype from women's novels with more red flags than China
there's not enough data in its training unless I handhold it
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>>43067880
Fair enough! I don't have much experience with just letting models write stories, I've always been a roleplayfag.
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>>43067719
Yep. There's basically a dozen other variations from several points in the story, but the longest one is at 195. I tend to stop since the context size is too massive by 150+
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https://github.com/Sanitised/ST-android
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>>43051940
If we remove the bug with the special characters that isn't present in Godot, do you have any problems with the current persona system of the VN?
I mostly made it as it was, since I don't know how to better it. Still six slots.
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>>43067640
Thanks anon
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https://x.com/Google/status/2027051657163391104
Nano Banana Pro 2 announced

>Nano Banana 2 brings visual creation to everyone.

>Our state-of-the-art image model delivers vibrant lighting, richer textures, sharper details — and more:

> Advanced world knowledge
> Precision text rendering and translation
> 512px to 4K upscaling
> Aspect ratio control
> Subject consistency (Up to 5 characters & 14 objects)

>>43067865
How is Opus 3 making a comeback? It was officially depreciated.
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>>43068504
Read the thread.
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>>43051912
Can we have a Bon Bon card that treats her as her own character, rather than hinging on her relationship with Lyra and human related jealousy?
>Just write it yourself
no
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>>43051899
I hate derpy so much . .. she fuck up everything
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>>43068543
Anon there is literally nothing to work with. Lyra and Bon Bon have zero personality beyond fanon and fanon is that they're lesbians and one of them would take human cock in a heartbeat and the other is violently racist toward humans because she doesn't want to get cucked
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>>43068714
There's plenty of BG pony cards that have done far more with less to go off.
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>>43068543
Bonnie card where she is the cute candy shop mare who loves you
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>>43068721
Are you supposed to make up background character cards then? What's the stop someone from putting their OC into one
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Even after reading the summarization stuff on that rentry, I'm still not sure how some things work. Obviously, the chat history doesn't just go away on ST, so what are you supposed to do? Start a new chat with the summary as the greeting?
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>>43068714
Bon Bon is grumpy. Big grumpy! And she makes candy!
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>>43068744
you copy the message, hide the original, and replace the text of the copy with the summary if you want to do it the easiest way possible
how do you people manage to figure out breathing if you need to be handheld this much
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>>43068744
/hide 0(greeting)-???
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>>43051940
I'm guessing in the future there will be a scene where Twilight will give you a spell that lets you walk on clouds in order to visit Couldsdale through the air balloon.
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>>43068755
>>43068767
That's not what I meant. I was under the impression that the summary would replace the current chat's chat history. I gather from your replies that you're in fact meant to start a new chat, right?
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>>43068811
no you idiot
stop gathering things, you're obviously horrible at it
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>>43068811
>that the summary would replace the current chat's chat history
It doesn't.
>I gather from your replies that you're in fact meant to start a new chat, right?
You can if you want, or you can hide messages like >>43068767 said, or you can just continue normally and let your context limit just remove the old messages as long as your summary is placed at something like depth 3–4. See what works best for you or the model.
To see what depth means:
https://desuarchive.org/mlp/thread/42810558/#42822482
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>>43068194
She's a big mare, she can handle it easier. Besides, if hers was sized relative to her little ponies, she may as well be carrying twin fillies from that description I imagine.
Did you and the AI continue that? What was your answer to her, kek
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>>43068848
The context from previous messages would still be there if you just hide them, no? Also, wouldn't the model get confused if there are messages prior to the summary? I guess I'll just have to give it a shot to which performs best. Either way, thanks for the help, Anon.
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>>43068543
>and human related jealousy
Sorry but Bon Bon is solely for hateboner dynamics with Anon.
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>>43068866
>The context from previous messages would still be there if you just hide them, no?
what do you think hiding does? what do you think context means? hidden messages are not part the prompt
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>>43068543
There is one I think
https://mlpchag.neocities.org/view?card=Anonymous/Bon%20Bon.png
Two if you count the paranoid of (You) version
https://mlpchag.neocities.org/view?card=Ponyo/Bon%20Bon.png
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>>43068872
I never tried it before, so I assumed it was just like wrapping text with <>.
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>>43068866
>The context from previous messages would still be there if you just hide them, no?
Nope.
>Also, wouldn't the model get confused if there are messages prior to the summary?
Not really. At depth 4, you will have your chat -> Here's a summary of what happened until now -> 3 newest messages. Most big models will be able to handle that. But again, try and see what works.
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>>43068543
I will give it a try.
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>>43051940
>>43061064
Jasmine Leaf
https://u.pone.rs/nrhlrnxo.zip
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>>43069083
Nice.
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>>43068504
>>43057616
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>>43068873
I appreciate the attempt but both of those explicitly mention exactly the shit I'm criticising in their descriptions. I already checked the site, that's why I brought it up.

>>43068889
Much appreciated.
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I'm just getting back into this ai shit after almost a year. I was using Mistral Large then, is it still any good compared to what's out now?
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>>43069317
Keep that star to yourself, lazy nigger.
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>>43069388
Take 10mins to read the anchors of the thread. It's worth.
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>>43069388
>Mistral Large
It's not that bad, but as before, the meta favors big models like Claude (we're at 4.6 now) or Gemini (3.1).
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>>43069452
I see. I was using Mistral because of how cheap it was and how horny it could be. I guess I'll try out some of the newer models to see if it's worth the extra cost.
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>>43069083
Added to the website.
https://equestrai-ponyponyparadise.neocities.org/characters
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So pricing is the only reason people use sonnet over opus right? Otherwise if money isn't an issue I should go with opus?
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>>43069646
Money and rarer on proxies, yes.
If you don't care about money, then use Opus over Sonnet, yes.
Just know that 4.1, 4.5, and 4.6 are all different.
4.1 is the most expensive but can have subtlety the others don't have and sometimes better comprehension.
4.5 can be fun and is susceptible to prefill.
4.6 removed prefill; I heard it's a bit less positivity-pilled.
I would still test Gemini on the side to see if it's for you or to mix the outputs from time to time.
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>>43069657
>I heard it's a bit less positivity-pilled
It's. But I still don't think it's worth compared to 4.5
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>>43069646
in my experience opus is a lot more creative and likes to insert its own elements/characters without any handholding. in most cases this is great but if you're running a super specific scenario or prefer consistency you may prefer sonnet.
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>>43046191
I'm still in bed with her, I guess.
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Bug sex is weird.
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>>43070521
I can't believe that I have a pic for this.
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>>43070521
that's a strange way to spell "incomprehensibly kino"
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>>43070534
Kek
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>>43070521
>>43070534
Hot.
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>>43070534
fucking lmao
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why does sonnet make the character either act like the shyest, unsure, blushing virgin. or the dirtiest, screaming slut whore.
literally no in between.
starting being much more apparent recently.
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>>43070666
With some models, you definitely need to tell them directly in your preset how the character globally acts or is during sex, even if only a single line.
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>>43053664
A pony wagie for the burger place
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Trixie might be part pegasus, because she's winging it really well.
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>>43070898
Does Anon have a humiliation fetish?
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>>43070938
It's rough out there for young anons who aren't raised around a stallion figure and have caretakers who aren't even a mothers yet and keep them mostly isolated. It's terrible what it can do to a young anon's mental when raised entirely by mares in a mare's world with books and stories written by them. Chances are that these poor anons have never even heard about equal rights.
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>>43068464
an optional RPG mode with stats in the persona page and dice would be cool
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>>43053664
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Newfag here, set up everything but I'm not sure what api to try. Which free one is anon's favorite?
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>>43071133
openrouter is free
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>>43071133
There aren't that many free ones still here right now.
I believe NVIDIANIM still offers free models, but you must give your phone number. They have models like GLM 5, Kimi 2.5, DeepSeek, etc.
Otherwise, you can put $10 in OpenRouter and try cheap models like DeepSeek, Kimi 2.5, or GLM.
If you can, read the anchors of the thread; it can be worth it.
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>>43071148
>>43071187
Thanks anon I'm currently looking through openrouter's free models, will try them out soon
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>>43071203
>openrouter's free models,
Since they removed DeepSeek, there aren't that many good models still there. I believe they rate limit quite fast too now.
Still, I believe what's best still there would be:
https://openrouter.ai/arcee-ai/trinity-large-preview:free
or
https://openrouter.ai/nousresearch/hermes-3-llama-3.1-405b:free
Once you have time, I would read the anchors.
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>>43051940
I kinda recolored Sunset's sprite a bit, most of her colors were brighter than the others.
https://gofile.io/d/GEKKv2
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>>43071294
Thanks.
Updated on the website.
https://equestrai-ponyponyparadise.neocities.org/characters
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my custom summary extension is coming along nicely
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>they haven't reposted the NEWS yet
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>want download character for PPP
>uber slow
catbox ded?
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>>43071542
It works fine and it's fast on my end. Is that for all or a character in particular?
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>>43071547
silver spoon
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I'd say with 20% it still manages to keep most events in memory
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>>43071549
Here:
https://u.pone.rs/vvncfszd.zip
Updated on the website too.
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>>43071572
/)
does catbox purge files often?
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>>43071583
I don't know. I retested all of them two days ago, and Silver Spoon was fine. >>43066305
I will look into maybe hosting them on Neocities directly. The only problem is that they take up a bit of space.
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>>43071611
ive got a server that isn't doing a lot that i can host on
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>>43071583
By design, it doesn't. IIRC it moves the files to a slower server once they haven't been used for some time. The recent issue was apparently a one time thing that caused some files to be inaccessible, but in the message he said that he hopes to resolve it. Catbox does occasionally run into stability issues though, where the whole service is down or very slow.
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>>43071632
I will look at my options first, but if you have an email I can contact you with.
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Sometimes you just need to go with the single word response.
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>>43071657
Nice.
What model are you using?
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>>43071647
can contact me on canternet
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>>43071677
That was opus 4.6
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>>43071686
You use a preset in particular? I like the compact outputs.
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>>43071707
I don't have much active in my current preset. Basically one instruction just telling it to not give {{user}} special treatment or Mary Sue status, one that says to limit responses to 100-300 words or less depending on the scene and a third that says the genre should be "raunchy adventure"
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>>43071657
Why the fabric?
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>>43071809
Apparently she thought she should wear some kind of ninja outfit for an infiltration mission. I made fun of her for it.
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>>43071801
Thanks.
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>>43051902
https://dropmefiles.com/7Sbdp
Military scientist and several soldiers (random european/east-asian country and 12 greetings with different years from 1892 to 2020) were accidentally teleporting to Equestria while testing teleportation technology. Unable to return home, scientist keeps writing his journal. Warning - contains high-tier schizoheadcanon intended to make Equestria more alien.

Based on Journal of a Mad Man
https://characterhub.org/characters/Vypera/journal-of-a-mad-man-2289df37
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>>43071827
Claude has a better understanding of the card's intended tone, while Gemini immediately descends into absurdity and mindless adherence to the prompt.
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New Bread
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>>43072182
>>43072182
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>>43071413
I noticed some ponies' sprites have like shading and lighting, are those AI made. Because I wouldn't mind recoloring those too like I did with Sunset's.
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>>43072303
If you see other characters that could be homogenized like Sunset, don't hesitate to do this, yeah, if that's not a bother.



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