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ATTENTION: we've changed server IPs. New IP: tf2.pony.horse OR 147.93.144.204:27015

Young anon, this IS that kind of party!
Thread theme: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--rXfrpRXr4
Previous thread: >>43035326

Pony maps, sprays, and micspam!
Reskinned vanilla maps (with mares) by our very own anons!
Come relive the heyday of pony TF2 with your friends from /mlp/!

Visit this link to check out the server info from your browser: https://www.battlemetrics.com/servers/tf2/38090784


>Server info
Server IP: tf2.pony.horse OR 147.93.144.204:27015
Password: check filename
Steam group: https://steamcommunity.com/groups/mlptf2_
The steam group chat is active, come and say hello!

Map downloads (place the .bsp file in /tf/download/maps): https://fastdl.pony.horse/mlptf2/maps/
Download demos from matches (request demos in the thread): https://fastdl.pony.horse/mlptf2/demos/
Active hours: 7-9pm to 12-4am EDT (32-64 players)
Custom MvM also available for early hours (42 player limit) and other gamemodes like Death Run or VSH for after-hours.

This server uses a plugin that changes the stats of some weapons to an old pre-nerf version. See https://github.com/rsedxcftvgyhbujnkiqwe/castaway-plugins/wiki/Weapon-Revert-List for more info. Not all reverts are active, for a list of all active reverts type !reverts in game

Consider installing mastercomfig if you have frequent frame drops, bad hitreg, poor network connectivity, or are new to the game. See https://mastercomfig.com/ for easy installation. It is STRONGLY recommended that all players install some preset of mastercomfig since TF2's default netcode settings have not been changed since 2007.

THERE IS NO DISCORD SERVER ASSOCIATED WITH THIS THREAD. Any post mentioning "the /mlp/ TF2 Discord" is a troll and should be ignored.
/vg/-style chatroom-posting and gayposting is OFF-TOPIC and should be reported as such.


No one is judged for being new to the game, and skill level across the playerbase varies.
Join the fun!
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ITS OVER
TEAM FORTRESS 2 IS SHUTTING DOWN IN the game OH FUGGGGG DDD:
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>>43091167
>Guides
Website for making in-game sprays: https://rafradek.github.io/Mishcatt/
Micspam guide: https://desuarchive.org/mlp/thread/39428553/#q39430287
Guide to adding pony models to any map: https://ponepaste.org/9223
Pony mod collection: https://desuarchive.org/mlp/thread/37462569/#37462590
Pony model replacements with voiceovers: https://desuarchive.org/mlp/thread/39697428/#39701005
Pony war paint texture mods collection: https://desuarchive.org/mlp/thread/39788496/#q39796303
Having trouble with sprays showing up in-game? Put the following in the developer console: https://u.smutty.horse/mfwtrwijazh.txt
Getting error signs instead of pony models? Download them manually here: https://github.com/EtraIV/SpawnPony (place the materials folder into /tf/download).

>Videos and content
/mlptf2/ videos playlist (highlights, karaoke nights, Anon Fridays, etc.): https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLlaewUctCKsJqnVcSDf3d9oIBSpewUQsO
/mlptf2/ intro: https://u.smutty.horse/maqwtlmafwl.mp4
/mlptf2/ New Years (2023 edition): https://u.smutty.horse/mlakpjgcooh.mp4
/mlptf2/ 2-year anniversary: https://youtu.be/4fzG-WLKIyc
/mlptf2/ 3-year anniversary: https://youtu.be/e269nQZnqcY
RGL Highlander S17 Week 4 Amateur HOOFLANDER vs PHD Floppa: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e8J8dEQdsIQ
HOOFLANDER vs PHD Floppa (RGL HL S17 Grand Finals): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKdwINfnIy0
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Calling all autists!
We need (You) to help design new marescots for /mlptf2/!
We need two ponies, a red and blu mare! Feel free to submit just one or a paired design featuring two OCs!
From the submissions, two mares will be chosen by vote in the near future (not finalized yet).
Visual design is a requirement obviously, but feel free to also tell us their likes/dislikes, what they do, how they feel about the other team, their gimmick, or just anything you want everyone to know about them!
Paired OC designs will be evaluated as a pair (i.e., if you submit twins, we will not separate them. Either they win and both get chosen as the final OCs or they lose and neither of them are chosen).
Template mares included so even those of us less artistically inclined can participate! Just add the details necessary like a mane, tail, outfit and accessories, and your mare is ready for evaluation!

As a prize for the mares in question, the winning OCs will be redrawn! We already have one artist who has volunteered and promised to draw the winners, and we're looking for more! Any other artists intending to draw the winners, please make yourselves known!
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>>43091182
transparent png blue mare template
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>>43091182
transparent png red mare template
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>>43091182
I love them
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Are we going to finally have a discord now that 15 is gone?
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>>43091422
no nigger
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Are we going to finally have Babs as op filly now that 15 is gone?
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>>43091182
>going out of his way to ignore HorseTV's official OC
what did he mean by this
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>>43091710
HorseTV is dead anon
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>>43091710
HorseTV hasn't been around for a long time anon
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>>43091710
>HorseTV
defunct.
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>>43091701
agree ToT
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>>43091701
Yes PSI
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>>43091710
15 blew up about it and didn't want us to be using OCs he considered to be his, it's why we have to make new ones
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>40+ players at almost 2AM last night
>Absolutely dead at 11:30PM tonight
wha happen.
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>>43092019
Saturday night everyone expects players to be on.
Sunday night most people do not expect players to be on, so they do not get on. When we play on nights other than Friday/Saturday you need to tell people to get on the server via this thread and steam.
It's just the way things are now.
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I wanted to touch some ponies tonite on the serber but there were no ponies on
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>>43092126
Next time make a post an hour before you want to play both here and on steam announcing your desire and concrete plan to play
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Sunday should be tf2c night
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>>43092126
Can I touch you on the server haha?
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>10
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>>43091182
The reward doesn't make any sense. Why would someone who can draw an entry want someone else to draw OC(s) that isn't even going to be theirs in the end? Art of the winners is likely going to be made in the future anyway reward or not. The prize should be in keys or items, those are more widely accepted and make better incentive for people to enter.
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>>43092966
>Why would someone who can draw an entry want someone else to draw OC
you don't need to know how to draw to add accesories, fill in colors and write a story onto a template
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>>43092966
i think the idea is that if you are not particularly artistically inclined but have an idea for a design you can use the template to get the idea across and then if people like the idea it will get drawn by someone who can draw
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>>43092631
I will beat and molest you before you put a hand on me
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bump
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>>43092019
>wake up to wageslave at 6am
>active hours are usually ~1am my time
You do the math.
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Touch
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get on tf2 fags
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get on tf2!!!!
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>>43092966
precisely what >>43093034 said, the prize isn't so much a direct incentive to participate like, say, a prize of tf2 items people really want, so much as a incentive specific to those who choose to not participate because they think their art isn't good enough and they don't want their art to become the new poster child of /mlptf2/. it's supposed to breed and reward creativity, rather than making the contest a "who is the best artist" competition.
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>>43094441
I guess that makes sense. I always see these sorts of things more like competitions so that's why I didn't get it.
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Guess who's back, back again?
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HorseTV
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>>43094487
Tell her I hate her
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So when is mlp.tf going to be updated to work with the new server.
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>>43094606
Soon
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i should hopefully have a working computer again in a week or two. can't wait to join you guys again.
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Horsetv?
More like touch my pp
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>>43094606
hopefully never the site just discouraged people from joining until a certain player count
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if we're bringing back old server stuff back like reverts and such can we at least not return the [sm] spam
pretty please
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>>43094654
reverts should have never returned.
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>>43094685
this desu
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>>43094685
the server should have reverts, but not as many. weapons should be reverted to their most balanced/fun state, not their most powerful state.
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>>43094701
what's balanced and fun is subjective though
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>>43094701
This. Sandvich for example should be its modern incarnation, I have no idea what's going on with the current incarnation on the server. Seems like the only way to replenish it is with the Resupply Cabinet.
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>>43094722
it can also be replenished by picking up any health pack while you have full hp, just like the modern version. this is still 10x harder to do than just waiting 30 seconds though. the result is a sandvich that's a straight upgrade to both the modern sandvich, and second banana if you're using exclusively using it selfishly, and punishes you extremely harshly for using it to support you team at all. i absolutely hate it.
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>>43094717
so is what's strong. the sandvich, dalokohs, atomizer, phlog, gru, and claidheamh mor all have arguments to be made over which version is stronger just to name a few, and there's definitely more. but the reverts are definitely chosen with the intent of picking the strongest versions of weapons, even if it's sometimes debatable.
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>>43091182
Uh oh, a NEW mare DROPPED on scene!
Meet Sabrina!

>who is she?
She's a beautiful orange with bright red mane young latina mare that loves adventures, mechatronic engineer, and lots of action. When his team needs help, Sabrina brings her lovering voice, shouting "MOVE THE CART MALDITO IDIOTA!", while with her poweful lvl101 shotgun from her grandpa, kill all enemies around.
>what does her cutie mark mean?
It's a delicious hot n' ready empanada, but don't be fooled, inside had 95mg of plutonium-239, 27oz uranium-235, and raisins, so next time you ate them, you're gonna KABOOM like a loco.But don't worry! Mama Sabrina always know when you're hungry and needs some health, so she makes you some estofado and 100% safe meat empanadas only for (You). She really loves to cook, and Sabrina always be your friend as long as you teach new recipes, nom nom.
>what is she good at?
This mare is expert being a Demoman, Soldier, Scout. Unusually, doesn't know how to be a engineer, because at her own words: "First I have to graduate on Canterlot to do that". Poor Sabrina, if only she knew that Canterlot univerity costs 1000 bits/month, and only earns minimum wage. :(
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>>43094765
>what is her attitude like?
It's very, very, VERY confident, in fact, most of their loses are attributed for that. Good thing about it is with that, she prepares herself more, but only if (You) are with her. Sabrina likes make new frens to pass the time, so you are the motivation to keep going and become the greatest tf2 mare ever!Oh, but be careful if you try to bother her, or touching her or her new machines, because this yegua has a cute little hoofs that they will mark you on your face for the rest of your life. Doesn't like being called fat neither.
>why this pony has to be the mascot of /mlptf2/?
Because she have all you need for companion! She's beautiful, so sexy, loving, intelligent, talented, ready for anything, and obviously, drop many bombs as possible! Bwahaha!
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>>43094740
I recall trying to recharge it that way the other night but it wouldn't recharge after walking over a small healthpack while at full health.
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>>43094685
we should just be able to conservatively pick out the reverts we want but if it's all or nothing, no reverts is far superior
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>>43091182
Is it mandatory to use those templates?
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>>43095085
No, you can use whatever you feel like if you're feeling up to it. The templates are just there to help.
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>>43095279
thank you dashie
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>>43095279
Gotcha, thanks!
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>>43094685
Is the 120 dmg cum un load on the server now?
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Niggers
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>>43094768
wonderful! thanks for actually making her classic style
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>>43095554
WHY IS GLIMMY SO RACIST?!
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>>43096375
cause say gex
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i'm bored here's 3 year old /mlp/tf2 footage https://youtu.be/sUSyDxpQmsQ
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>>43096936
soul
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>>43096936
>thread says: fuck off goku
>"what did goku agiaan"
lmao
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>>43094416
>fucking
I say buck, and bucking. And you should too.
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We should tf2 tonight

>>43098055
Derpy!
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>>43098055
Somepony needs to touch Sextavipone
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>>43098281
I agree. let's play tonight
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>>43091182
Can't we just use errormare?
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GET ON NOW IT'S STARTING
It's starting...
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22 on pl calamity
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24 on vip brooklynn
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>>43099123
why is this nigga's art so fucking ugly
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20 on koth king
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bump
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First for beat and molest
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Touch
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>>43091167
>ATTENTION: we've changed server IPs.
Huh wtf what happened
Did 15 kick the server out?
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>>43101080
tl;dr yes
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>>43101080
yep 15 stepped down and we had to get a new server
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>>43091182
Alright here we go.

Introducing Red Alert and Blueprint. As competing leaders trying to renovate Equestria, these two mares are sworn enemies (or lovers, or both).

One would think with a cutie mark like that, she would be very loud and abrasive, but she's actually quite guarded with her feelings. She's not emotionless, she smiles and frowns just like any other pony, but you always get the feeling she's hiding something. She's also very slow to trust, keeping a professional distance while simultaneously questioning what sort of ulterior motives you have. But she's still good at what she does, and you can always depend on her so long as she can depend on you. Very few can compare with just how resilient she is, physically and emotionally. Not a lot can knock her down, and even less can keep her there. Perhaps with enough time, she'll let her guard down around you and you'll get to see what she's really like.

Blueprint is smart, and she'll let you know it, but unlike some other ponies, she's not just bragging, and has proven time and time again her plans work. It's hard to argue with results, after all. She can be pretty single-minded, focused on one goal and working tirelessly until that goal is achieved, and ignoring other details so long as she gets what she wants. It sometimes makes her come across as cold-hearted, but she doesn't mean to be, she just knows what needs to be done. Her quick wit means she always has a plan, and her quicker mouth means she'd just love to tell you all about how perfect it is. As passionate and curious as she is smart, she wants to know what you can do to help her out. So long as you make yourself useful, you'll be in good hooves with her.

These two constantly butt heads. Red Alert dislikes Blueprint's tendency to use and discard others and Blueprint can't stand how secretive Red Alert gets. Yet despite their differences, they're more alike than they realize, chalk it up to their ever-growing drive to prove themselves. And they always seem to cross paths no matter what they try to do.

I tried add details like how their color schemes are just the TF2 paints (Red Alert's coat is Cream Spirit, Blueprint's coat is Waterlogged Lab Coat. Red Alert's mane is Dark Salmon Injustice and Team Spirit, Blueprint's mane is 216-190-216 and Team Spirit, ect.), how they have an R and B in their respective back manes, Red Alert's tail is reminiscent of a fuse like in RED's logo, Blueprint has 5 freckles to represent everypony's favorite game mode, and so on.
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>>43101487
wow that's elaborate, I love them!
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>>43101487
Nice submission any one of us
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>>43101487
I will touch both of em
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>>43101487
red alert more like red sneed
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Bump
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Touch
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tonight. TF2.
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marewater's up
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13 on koth_coyote
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20 on pl_mareward
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Anypony who says powergrope again will be beaten and molested
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>>43103879
powergrope yourself some bitches
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>>43103879
Promise?
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Bump
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Donk
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Special mare vote will be held tonight, make sure you don't miss it
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>>43105294
it is already night and I am going to sleep now
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>>43105572
No anon wake up!! It’s open mic night!!
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Beat and molest
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Why does the server name keep changing every 20 minutes it's annoying
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>>43105874
37
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>>43105910
we need 30 more
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does my internet suck, or did the server crash?
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>giel tells us that there's no mare nominations and that the mares are predetermined for 3 vote sets
>game hard crashes
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>[SM] Vote successful. (Received 62% of 39 votes)
>[SM] The answer to Vote for the next OP mare! is: Numget next thread.
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ART ANCHOR POST
The next OP mare is Numget. Reply to this with your art if you want to have it voted on as being the next thread's OP art.
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/r/ numget with a delicious marecock
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Does this mean we can finally have OP fillies?
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>>43106062
not until we oust melonigger
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>>43106088
I'll rape you in there
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pee spy
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>>43105942
classic, just classic.
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today's server capped out at 53 players on at once, the most I remember in recent memory, and we even managed to edict crash a map that's never edict crashed before
fun times
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ARG creepy pasta Scout jumpscare
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please PLEASE disable random bullet spread on the server, randomly doing 4 damage with a shotgun at point blank range is fucking annoying and makes me want to shove ball bearings up my pee hole
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why does the evil owner still own the Steam group?
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>>43106053
For the Numget OP, I was thinking we could have edits of all 9 classes and then put them together as one collage.

If anyone wants to contribute, put your merc numgets here!
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>>43106575
the biggest difference between random and fixed bullet spread isn't even the randomness; that barely ever matters. it's that fixed spread is about 50% tighter for no reason. it's stupid. i'm not opposed to fixed spread, but only if it's done via a plugin that makes it not suck, rather than the game's built in setting for it.
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>>43106636
its still objectively better than having it be completely random, it being a tight spread just means you have to aim better, it being random makes it completely luck based whether you actually deal damage or not.
as it currently is using any shotgun feels like pulling teeth because sometimes you just dont do the damage you expect to do.
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>>43106676
>it being a tight spread just means you have to aim better
no, it means every affected weapon has a significantly higher effective range than intended. i'd wager the reason you feel like the random spread is screwing you over isn't that you're just getting bad pellet rng, but because you're using shotguns in ranges that are effective with the tighter spread you're used to, but not with the looser spread that the weapons were designed with. the actual random part of random bullet spread is actually really minor compared to the straight up effective range buff fixed bullet spread grants. using a plugin with better fixed bullet spread would probably feel a lot more like randon bullet spread than with vanilla fixed bullet spread.
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>>43106700
>you're using shotguns in ranges that are effective with the tighter spread you're used to
maybe but if the intended effective range of shotguns without fixed bullet spread is supposed to be literally inside the enemy player then I will happily take the higher effective range because I have been getting repeatedly fucked over at near point-blank range on this server every single time I try to use a shotgun
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>>43106712
Or maybe you're just bad and you're blaming it on the lack of FBS.
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>>43106721
>maybe you're just bad
who fucking cares? maybe the weapon should just do what it is supposed to do, and not deal 3 damage at close range when you click on an enemy centre mass?
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>>43106725
If you're dealing chip damage at close range, then you're not clicking center mass. What's probably happening is that you actually aren't missing much more than before, if at all, but now you're attributing your misses to RBS.
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>>43106743
I don't know what to tell you man, I just want the weapon to have some consistency, if you are not using shotguns often its not super noticeable but when you are using them all the time it adds up, every life you'll have at least one encounter where a shot will deal far less damage than you were expecting and sure sometimes maybe that is down to the player's aim, but I guarantee It's not always, sometimes you just get fucked over.
Even if the shotgun's effective range does increase as a side effect of enabling fixed bullet spread would that really make it more oppressive than all of the already good weapons in the game? Does it really change the game so much that the shotgun now becomes "meta" or better than any primary weapon in the game? I don't think so.
If the compromise is to use a plugin that accounts for this then I'm all for it but if that plugin doesn't exist I would just prefer we had default fixed bullet spread.
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>>43106590
2/9
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18th for beat and molest
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Just enable shounic's perfect accuracy plugin
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>>43106764
>but I guarantee It's not always, sometimes you just get fucked over.
The exact same thing happens with fixed spread. It's just "predictable" post-mortem which makes you feel good. But in the heat of a game you WILL miss pellets that would've hit with random spread on.
Random spread on: aiming center mass is always the best because on average that's where the most pellets will hit
Fixed spread on: best aim fluctuates between center and off-center depending on the situation, which is impossible for a human to account for on the fly

tl;dr random spread is ironically less random than fixed spread and I'm angry that compfags made everyone think it's the opposite.
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>>43107102
>random spread is ironically less random
Not at all. Your picture shows that sometimes with fixed spread you should be aiming slightly off-center, but that doesn't mean it's random, and in theory if you were superhuman with perfect aim you'd be able to always maximise your damage. Of course nobody is that superhuman but this means that generally you can almost never intentionally switch between targeting center mass vs. the left hip, so it's not like "you get fucked over for perfect aim". If you really had perfect aim you'd have aimed for the left hip.

Random spread will hit near center mass "on average" but that's the entire thing about randomness, it's always average on average (by definition). But you will randomly get fucked over where maybe you aimed center mass and all the pellets went around, or you aimed slightly too far left and all the pellets went towards the left so you hit nothing, etc.
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>>43107102
fixed spread is MORE CONSISTENT which is what we have been arguing about since the very start and that is objective, and if it is consistent you can build muscle memory and game sense around that, random spread is out of your control, thats why "compfags" think fixed is better because its consistent, its not up to a dice roll how your pellets fall.
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>>43107102
This is a poor argument, you are equating "better aim" here with "aiming for centre mass" which only applies to random bullet spread, "better aim" with fixed bullet spread would not be centre mass it would be whatever angle lined up better with the fixed spread.
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>>43106725
>maybe the weapon should just do what it is supposed to do
I'm glad we agree. Shotguns should be less effective at medium ranges such as when RBS is turned on.
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>>43107226
>deal 3 damage at close range when you click on an enemy centre mass
so you agree with this part too? like, nice gotcha man, but im not trying to antagonise you, a plugin that both gives a consistent shotgun bullet pattern and doesn't make shotguns disproportionately good at long ranges is a good idea and would be ideal, but if thats not a thing then idk, I would prefer we just settle for fixed bullet spread.
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>>43107128
You just restated my argument. In both cases of spread vs no spread you will get fucked over randomly. In one case you get fucked because rng decided you will miss, in another case you get fucked randomly because in your specific scenario you had to slightly miss to maximize your damage, which a human isn't able to process and anticipate on the fly.
So now we have to decide which poison we want to ingest. In the case of spread off we have the additional problem of shotgun weapons becoming much more lethal at long ranges than Valve intended, so in my opinion we should just take random spread. I don't see what the big deal is when we have random crits on already which are much more egregious in their ability to swing a fight's outcome.

>>43107154
Except its NOT more consistent. You THINK it's more consistent, because you can look at a replay and point your finger at the screen at a shot missing but you don't do the same when a fixed shot misses when a random spread one would've hit.
>>43107163
Do you think you're capable of calculating in the 100 miliseconds you have to take a shot the perfect spot to shoot to maximize pellet coverage? No? Then aiming center mass is basically perfect aim for a human.
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>>43107290
I googled a bit and there is no such plugin. Every website I went to essentially said "just use the valve-provided solution retard"
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>>43107295
>in one scenario you get fucked over by rng in the other scenario you get fucked over by your own lack of skill
even if the skill required to hit that shot in the second scenario is inhuman and unrealistic i would still prefer it be down to my own fault rather than it being bad rng.
the problem is with the former, there is nothing you can do to predict how your pellets will randomly fall.
I understand that you think that both are equal because they both lead to the same result except they are not because in one scenario i get annoyed and in the other scenario i go "damn i should've aimed better".
also i think you massively under estimate sub-conscious game sense and muscle memory, its not that you are literally making micro adjustments deliberately on the fly to move your crosshair 1 pixel to the right, but you do take in that kind of refinement on a sub-conscious level.
ALSO also i think the amount you get fucked over with random bullet spread is somewhat higher than the amount you get fucked over with fixed bullet spread due to the factors we discussed(knowing to not aim centre mass to hit more pellets).
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>>43107290
>deal 3 damage at close range when you click on an enemy centre mass
I see nothing buy wild hyperbole out of you so far. This doesn't happen in practice and if it's happening to you, you clearly don't know how to aim.
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>>43107319
Well this is a good post. I have no argument against this, it's just a subjective difference of opinion at this point.
I'm not against disabling bullet spread, I think it's fine to play with, it's just kind of reddit and uncletopian to want it so bad.
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>>43107370
at no point did I try to claim I'm some sort of god gamer who never misses a shot ever, and yes 3 damage at point blank range aiming at the centre of a stationary enemy is ridiculous, but to act like there is no validity in the argument: random bullet spread is inherently less consistent as opposed to fixed bullet spread because is it based on rng is also fucking crazy.

so allow me to correct myself, sometimes in a close-quarters fight you will deal less damage than you are expecting due to rng with random bullet spread and it does not matter how well you aimed, where as with with fixed bullet spread the only reason you would ever deal less damage than you expect is because you aimed poorly.

ultimately what it boils down to is: I like fixed bullet spread, you do not. that's it, no minds are going to be changed I will simply stop playing tf2 until I feel like playing optimally, it was foolish of me to attempt to play shotgun heavy I suppose.

>it's just kind of reddit and uncletopian to want it so bad.
this means nothing, detach yourself from the way people see you and start thinking for yourself please.
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>>43107295
I was basically going to say what the other anon said, that if YOU miss it's not random it's a skill issue. Even if not missing would require superhuman skill, it's still your fault.
For example a human will never match an aimbot at sniper precision, but when you miss an extremely tricky headshot it's not because of "RNG". And if the sniper rifle had random spread it would not be in any way more fair or fun.

Another example is airshots as soldier. If you haven't trained them they feel almost RNG. Once you get good it's not that bad but there are some tricky shots where it's almost entirely RNG. However not a single soldier I have ever seen would say that the beggar's bazooka is more fair or more consistent at landing airshots, or that it's even remotely equal or comparable: the beggar's deviation makes it pure RNG, while landing an airshot with a normal rocket launcher is pure skill and if you miss you just need to get better.
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You know what this server needs?
Demoknight with increased knockback/airblast resistance
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>>43107465
a shield that gave knockback resistance while charging would be a cool idea, it would need something to counter balance it to make it not un-counterable to play against.
what if: the shield grants 0 bonus resistances and cannot be steered while charging but you cant be airblasted or knocked back during a charge, so you always charge in a straight line but can never be interrupted? might be interesting
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>>43107472
>it would need something to counter balance it to make it not un-counterable to play against.
It's counter it's just shooting the nigga before he chops his head off
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>>43107487
sometimes thats just not possible unless youre a heavy already revved up or like a huntsman sniper with good aim or something, the main way to counter demoknight for most classes is with explosive damage knockback or airblasts. the shield only being able to charge in a straight line would mean you would have to move out of the way in order to avoid getting your head chopped off, i think its a pretty fair trade off, maybe let it refresh charge meter on kill too so the demo can escape afterwards or something.
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>>43106636
>>43106700
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>>43106743
zesty jesus was a blight to this discourse lmao
>>43106575
nobody actually wants rbs it will be turned off eventually
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what are the upsides and downsides to the available reverts plugins? I like being able to toggle weapons on that other one but remember it stopped working on the server at one point
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>>43107502
>the main way to counter demoknight for most classes is with explosive damage knockback or airblasts
And this shouldn't be the case, a melee only subclass that ditches the almighty sticky launcher, thus being objetively underpowered compared to a regular demoman, getting his movement, his only tool to get kills, impaired pretty much renders him useless on a 1vs1 situation, not mentioning team fights, which he struggles even more.
It's more notorious against explosive damage, the thing that your shield is supposed to mitigate and, in paper, should let you win fights against explosive classes, like Soldier, in reality it does barely to nothing in a 1vs1, and if you win it's more due the Soldier itself screwing up rather than you out-skilling him. And not to mention Pyro.
If you want to counter a demoknight, pump his face full of bullets, stay with your team, and abuse terrain so he does not get a straight line to chop your head off, remenber that he's commiting his life and his entire kit to that kill whereas you should have more options and be less commited than him, stay with your team, do not isolate yourself, land your shoots. Stay near a heavy, scout, sentry or a competent sniper.
Truth is, if you're not a heavy, a good scout or have a sentry by your side, Demoknight SHOULD win the engagement because he pretty much plays like an ambusher and flanker, like a Scout or Pyro does. But airblast and soldier clicking feet renders him a non-issue.

That's why giving him an airblast/knockback resistance would not render him OP, it would render him a functional subclass with tradeoffs, instead of a discount spy that preys on victims that can't fight back. Which incredibly fucking LAME.

Man this makes me nostalgic
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>>43107533
dealing with knockback is the only fun part of demoknight besides trimps, he has nothing else going on
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>>43107512
>nobody actually wants rbs it will be turned off eventually
genuine question, but why are you so sure? we have crits turned on and those are way more egregious in their potential to change the outcome of gameplay, yet rbs is your big elephant? why?
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>>43107533
Ghost what you don't understand is that when you're fighting a soldier with the charge n targe equipped you're not supposed to charge him and try to 1v1. That's dumb. You're already majorly screwing him over if you stay in midrange and just look threatening, because his rockets will do 30 damage to you and they take a long time to reload, making him extremely vulnerable. A soldier in that position feels stressed because he has to choose between shooting a better target without extreme damage resistance while waiting for you to make a move to resolve the encounter. If you charge him you're making it easy for him because he no longer has a choice, the correct move is then to shoot and kill you.
The correct move in an encounter like this for you is to not charge and look threatening, tanking the damage for your team should the soldier decide to shoot you, then charging him and killing him if he decides to instead use his clip on your teammates.
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>>43107538
>dealing with knockback is the only fun part of demoknight
Dealing with knockback is NOT fun, at all. That's some Stockholm syndrome right there.
Demoknight is fun outside trimps, I enjoy on nailing the perfect turning on a charge to decapitate someone, destroying level 3 sentries with just a sword, predicting my opponent's movement and the mind plays. Charging past an entire team just to pick off a Medic or an annoying sniper
My favorite part, besides trimping, is doing something I call "Wall riding" to give me sharper turn angles and come out of the nowhere. For example, on Marewater, as RED, after BLU captures the first point they often take cover around the corner, I will just charge diagonally facing a wall and I'd just peek out the end of the wall swinging a crit sword with no time for the enemy to react.
As BLU on the last point, I'd charge diagonally facing the wall to get a very sharp angle and then turn to get the jump on any RED sniper hanging nearby the upper side spawn door.

Demoknight is fun and dealing with CC is not at all.
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>>43107601
>you're not supposed to charge him and try to 1v1
WHY
FUCKING
NOT?

Why I should not go toe-to-toe on an upfront brawl against a Soldier when I'm very much designed to take on him, just for him to click my feet and get ragdolled around

>You're already majorly screwing him over if you stay in midrange and just look threatening
So the correct thing is to just menacingly stand there, doing nothing but T pose while he chips my HP off from afar?
In reality, once the Soldier realizes I'm just baiting him to waste his rockets, he still start shooting one and then reload 1 by 1, forcing me to charge in a bad position or to disengage. Not to mention he can simply just random crit me. Or pull a shotgun. Or simply rocket jump away.
The only way is to charge him when he's not looking or reloading, and pray he panicks and splashes him to death.
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>>43107589
crits are funny even if I'd rather have them off sometimes, I can see why people like them
nobody finds any excitement with rbs turned on or off, it just annoys some people
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>>43107589
random crits can be funny sometimes, they can also be really fucking annoying thats why I like the plugin that lets you vote at the start of each map for random crits to be enabled or disabled, adds some variety and stops random crits from getting too grating.
random bullet spread does not create random funny moments it only creates random moments of frustration.
i personally do not like crits most of the time, but at the very least i can admit that sometimes they make me laugh.
rbs is just gay.
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I forgot to mention I have a cuck fetish and spend most of my time looking at pictures of black men running trains on octavia melody my beautiful hotwife
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>>43107621
If you think holding right click as Reinhardt is fun why don't you think doing the same thing in TF2 is also fun?
You're trying to play demoknight like it's scout and getting frustrated that you get punished
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tf_use_fixed_weaponspreads has been set to 1 for now
but I'll still make a vote for it next time there's players on because I'm curious
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>>43107657
KEK
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>>43107668
>why don't you think doing the same thing in TF2 is also fun?
Because, unlike Reinhardt, Demoknight has relatively low HP for a melee subclass, does not have a big fuck-off shield, does not have knockback resistance, nor has a huge ass hammer to swat niggas around, etc.
>You're trying to play demoknight like it's scout and getting frustrated that you get punished
You try charging a Soldier in the wide open and see he does not click your feet and you get propelled to the skybox
Believe me there's nothing I wouldnt like more than being in the frontlines charging people head-on during team fights, but you will die at the first source of CC, thus trying to jump people ala Scout or Pyro is objetively the best way to play Demoknight.
The only moment in which you get to reliably frontline as Demoknight is when you are getting actively pocketed with 4 heads as a Targeknight, being tanky and fast enough to dart around the battlefield, but otherwise most of times you're better off roaming the field for isolated targets. Not really I particurally enjoy but better than nothing.
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>>43107683
God fucking damn it
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>>43107683
Hell fucking yes
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>>43107683
>not gonna be able to attend the vote
can you put an extra vote on fbs off for me?
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>There are people actually discussing Overwatch on the thread
It's genuinely so fucking over
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>>43108077
>"people"
you have a very high opinion of ghostnigger
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>>43108077
Let's talk about Marvel Rivals instead!
Rapelord is my favorite character but I kinda wanna start grinding dps deadpool
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2 on backrooms
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>>43108295
>2
>backrooms
Sounds like say gex
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7/32 labyrinth_v2 we're finding cool stuff plus gielnik's game is haunted and we definitely got server demons
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Fags
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Frags
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Pls no molest por favor
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any favorite maps with a hidden (or not very hidden) porn/anime/furry/etc room?

I know of the classics like trade_shoppa, trade_horny, koth_coomer, mare maze & others but there's so many I know i'm missing from 10+ years ago
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>>43109826
what's the point, just watch porn
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>>43109826
surf_peppermint and the old mario kart dm map for weird porn rooms, but easter eggs in general maps made by conne are well known for their hard to get to secrets, and a lot of surf maps have hidden rooms too but usually theyre just for special jail zones that give you an advantage
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>>43109826
>anime/furry
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7 on marevest
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Lmao
I joined the server and got banned for being an "off boarder". Whoever jannys the server is actually retarded
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>>43110316
shut up nigger, stay banned
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>>43110316
You also kept breaking the rule of no talking in VC while micspam is on.

Speaking of rules, the new server doesn't have the rules in the MOTD still.
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>>43110316
how do you even break that rule to the extent that people realize? it can't be that hard to blend in, right? did you just go around saying "by the way, i HATE ponies" or something?
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>>43110351
yes he literally did, joins for the first time, screams in mic "what is this server is so faggy nigger"
then next map he's screaming again "this server so gay why are there ponies" when we switched to marewater
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>>43110354
He said where are all the ponies
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>>43110379
nope
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>>43110316
is this the first ban of the new server? if so congrats
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>>43110316
imagine being such a faggot that you get banned in 2 minutes from a server that bans 1 person per year
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>>43110316
what's your user name? maybe I can help you about it.
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>offboarder actually gets banned
holy shit we are so back
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Beat and molest
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>>43111349
me?
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>>43111350
desu, everypony
Some more beat though
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>>43106835
I already made scoutget long ago for an /mlp/con panel
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tf2c 2nite?
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>>43112476
More like normal tf2 tonite?
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4 on koth_marevest (tf2c)
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8 on cp_no_mercy
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12 on vip_harbor
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12 on koth_TWISTERICEFUN
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>>43112630
TORNAHDO
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>>43112630
this map was genuinely fun. really fun. surprisingly fun.
...I just wish it didn't have the terrible meme music and the end of round tornado ice lollipop thing.
somebody reskin it and add mares and it will become the server favorite for sure
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>>43112890
what would it be called tho
twistermarefun?
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>>43091182
Meet Blueberry Blast, Blue Falcon, Red Hindleg, and Cherry Bomb! All four are mercenaries hired by the RED and BLU divisions of Mare Co. (or whatever the MLP equivalent of Mann Co. is, if Mann Co. themselves haven't spread to Equestria yet) to achieve their ultimate goal of world domination. Who will win? Perhaps we'll never know.

Trotland natives Blueberry Blast and Cherry Bomb have spent nearly their entire lives working with chemistry and explosives, as well as drinking bottles of that good ol' scrumpy. They relished in the thought of the combustion of sugar and fantasized together during childhood about the starting an explosive pie factory, including what would happen if an unfortunate squid and sea sponge happened to purchase from their wares. They both believe in freedom for unicorns and that they'll eventually blow up a particular monster inhabiting a particular lake which has been confused before for an elephant shrew. Fun fact: their eyes are not gouged out because of any explosive accident, but because King Sombra himself found a way to steal their eyeballs and possess them with his fellow hell-demons.

Montaneigh residents Blue Falcon and Red Hindleg have always been fascinated by all things military, even at the cost of academic success or knowledge of what lead in tap water does to one's body. They tried joining every branch of Equestria's military to fight in the war to topple King Sombra, only to find out that the recruiting drives have all stopped not too long after they began because the war had already ended, so they bought their own tickets to the Crystal Empire and began killing Sombra's remaining supporters. Or at least people they THOUGHT were Sombra's remaining supporters. They were then awarded with various medals and accolades -- that they, themselves, made up. In their unicorn armies, you clomp your hooves when superior officers address you, but they will each trot into the forest and pick each and every one of those who serve under them arrangements of flowers... and they will be lovely. Oh, and they have also both previously had Discord as roommates.

Since all of their childhoods, the rift between Mann Co. (Mare Co.?) divisions RED and BLU has driven Blueberry Blast and Blue Falcon apart from Cherry Bomb and Red Hindleg. Will their friendship be torn apart by those who seek to divide them or will the magic of friendship prevail?

Yes, I know this isn't very original, but I don't see what's wrong with having the TF2 mercs in pony form as the thread mascots.
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Any mares tonight?
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>>43114105
NO
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>>43113831
Please tell me there's a Comic foil / Manzai duo thing with the personalities where one is serious (Blue Falcon/Red Hindleg) and the other is funny in a stupid comedic way. That would be Awesome.
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>>43114438
Why not :C
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>>43114105
YES
1 on rockpaperglimmer
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9 on marewater
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I fucking told you guys gmares was dangerous.
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>>43114873
You jest, but there were games that genuinely contained malware on them that were briefly listed on Steam. There’s also titles like all the old Cholera of Duty games that are an extreme security risk to play online since they contain known vulnerabilities that allow for RCE exploits to be done on a victim’s machine.
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4 on tf2ware
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>>43113831
wow these are pretty cute. nice job.
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>>43114556
I guess the closest analogy would be the demomares always being drunk and the soldier mares always being confident and saying everything in commanding voices even though they may not exactly be the sharpest knives in the drawer.
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>>43113831
What if they were different classes? For example in the MvM trailer, there's a RED scout, heavy and engie, and a BLU demo, soldier and medic.
That way it's not just two demos and two soldiers
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>>43115542
Sure, but I didn’t know whether the soldier and demomare would look better in blue or red. Though I suppose they could be evaluated as a quartet or in various pairings.
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>>43115573
I think
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Beat and molest
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>>43116105
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We touching tonite?
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16 on koth_colonia
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Beat and molest
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>>43106590



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