Could be just for promotional purposes or something else!What do (You) think?
>>43100411preddy cool
>>43100411They're leaning into the anime aesthetic without really getting it.
>>43100411I love it, cute and horsey.
>>43100411I prefer the classic style, but this one isn't atrocious.
>>43100411>G6 is a cross between G1 and G4OH GOD, OH FUCK, OH GOD
>>43100411Pinkie Pie looks like a literal toy.
>>43100445same can be said for you
>>43100438I was gonna say, that's a funky combo.
>>43100438If you were Hasbro, what would be the endgame for this
>>43100411LINKNOW
>>43100445So now the toys look exactly like the show.Isn't that what you wanted all along?
>>43100477It avoids being too brony-friendly while still having most of the existing character appeal, I guess.
>>43100411Just let the franchise die. I'm tired of reboots.
>>43100411REVIVE THE FRANCHISEI LOVE PONIES
>>43100411>>43100488>it's realFUUUUUUUU-
>>43100515FORGOT THE ACCURSED LINKhttps://www.amazon.co.uk/stores/MyLittlePony/page/3952C4EB-4BAF-40AB-A758-412BF123CB77
>>43100411I like how retro it is, but unlike>>43100493>It avoids being too brony-friendly while still having most of the existing character appealit seems like it would appeal the most to older fans. For kids and those not already into pony, aesthetics is everything, and the trend of most other media towards heavy stylization with big anime eyes (which G4 arguably paved the way for) is almost undefeated.
>>43100411No sir, I don't like it.
>>43100525I'm not saying it's a smart move on their part, I'm just saying that's probably their logic for it.
>>43100411Doesn't look bad, but G4 is still cuter.
>>43100411At least it's better than beanmouth shit.
>>43100585True, I'll give it that.
>>43100438Starring Anonymous as Meegan
>>43100493Makes sense
>>43100517Highest resolution I could grab from there
>>43100632It's cruel and unusual, Dashie has barely any ass!
>>43100411If the bow is supposed to represent rarity's fashion, then they really left Applejack out. Not even an apple up there
>>43100411>we are going back to G1good
>image has been uploaded on derpi an hour ago>still stuck in prmoderationHmmm...
>>43100644I think the bow's just supposed to be cute. Rarity and Applejack are both in hell right now.
>Fluttershy instead of that Gdog thingWell that's an improvement.
>>43100411pregnant dashie
NOTA 6
>>43100411
>>43100644they are just random items don't think too hard about them
>>43100411>G6 is a G1 reboot
>>43100438big if true
>reboot>has alicorn twilight from the start
>>43100411>Angel and Owlowiscious unchangedLazy!
>>43100752Unf
>G6 is a return to 2D animationUh, Hasbro did something right???
>>43100756This aspect makes me think it's not actually G6's artstyle.
>>43100754>reboot>>has alicorn twilight from the startBut this time Twilight is Celestia's daughter and she sacrifices her wings and immortality for friendship.
>>43100799Of course not, it's gonna be in 3d
>>43100642If you think they'll bring back asses for G6 you're sorely mistaken.G6 will be G4 ponies in dog mode. Enjoy your new gen.
Looks pretty
>>43100832YOU look pretty Anon!
>>43100832Pretty ugly
>>43100411It's actually pretty, but of course /mlp/ tastelets are freaking out
>>43100851Minty!
>>43100851They look like dolphins with down syndrome.
>>43100438could be kino
>>43100411>they went back to something similar to the older gen’s artstyles It is impossible for corpo bureaucrats to make good decisions.
and of course, today we have more official g1 meatriding !! thats so amazing wait NO TF IT AINT
>>43100877Though it’s still much better than many of the potential alternatives. This is the second or third best of the franchise imo.
>>43100851Hasbro better give me the "ponies were forced to work as slaves in mines for so long they went blind and had to remove their eyeballs to replace them with magical gems" G1 level of story telling ro fuck off
Andy price already deboonked this as old art
I'm going to cope that this is just for some promotional material and the merch. Also the Applejack tshirt lmao.
>>43100888T-trips of truth??!
>>43100890it's true
>>43100893>Used in China>Last yearThe century of american pony humiliation continues...
>>43100411Is it drawn by Celesse? Looks like it could.
>>43100517I just get an error message when I go to that link.
>>43100893link for reference: https://twitter.com/AndyPriceArt/status/2032238822650454303
>>43100411Sucks>>43100422Anime my ass, looks more like an AI generated G1/G4 crossover
>>43100995Are you an engagement bot? It looks nothing like AI
>>43101005Are you an engagement bot? You sound like one.
>>43100632This seems fineThe only uncanny thing is that they gave twilight wings for some reason
>>43100411They look like ducks in pony bodies
>>43100411>Get rid of Applejack and rarity>Give raritys fashion and jewlery to flutterWho is getting applejacks gimmick? One of the mane 4 or a new character? Maybe they will still have a.j as a background pony or side character in this new reboot
>>43101158>Who is getting applejacks gimmick?>applejacks gimmick
>>43100837<3
>>43100865Stop pretending that G4s don't look like ugly anime alien cats
>>43101311You're a liar
>>43101158Applejack is getting replaced by Minty to reunite the G3 Pinkie + Minty combo and to appeal to nostalgic fans.
THE DOUBLECHINS ARE BACKPONIES ARE ABOUT TO GET THICC AGAIN
Could be way worse, they look alright. Rehashing is just boring though.
>>43101275The bumbling dum dum
>>43101319got that hirohito neck
>>43101311>g4 badI see the g6 shitposting cycle is already gearing up
>>43100411Fortunately based Andy debunked this and this is not G6. Which is good cus I'd be pissed about no Rarity and AJ.
>>43101934I'm relieved as well. I would have genuinely been depressed if AJ and Rarity weren't included.
>>43101922>mindbroken
>>43101934>>43101959Why are you nitwits hoping for anything from Hasbro at all? You'll get aislop G4 ponies acting incredibly OOC with zoomtards influencing the fandom so their nu-personality is adopted in fan media and wish Hasbro never even considered a reboot.
>>43102104>Oy vey stop noticing patterns
>>43102143>old thing good new thing bad
>>43102148>them good us bad
>>43102153>you stupid me smart
>>43102153>good>bad
g1 bad g5 bad
>>43102148Well yeah. Hasbro literally can't make anything good anymore. G5 sucked ass, so will g6.
>>43102197>anymoreHasbro never made anything good. G4 was only good for a couple seasons because Hasbro paid next to no attention to it. G4 being good at all in the beginning is ALL the result of Faust & Co.
>>43100411I think it's a part of "Year of the Pony" "brand celebration" of 2026.G6 is 2027 and unrelated.
>>43100411If this is G6-related, it is better than G5 by the virtue of simply not being beanmouth.If it's just part of the brand celebration, same as always: Nothing ever happens.
>>43101311>G4>uglySo that's what is like to have no taste!
>>43102220>G4 being good at all in the beginning is ALL the result of Faust & Co.This.It wasn't the brand what made G4 so great, it was the artists behind it. That's why every future attempt at capturing its success will fail, because the only people working at Hasbro right now are stupid millennial writers completely disconnected from what made old cartoons so great.Hasbro got these success it got in the 2010's because they allowed a bunch of experienced cartoonists (many of them who have worked on some of the most beloved series of their time) to make something visually appealing and charming. And they allowed them to do this because MLP was broke as a brand when Faust did what she did.Unless the brand goes bankrupt in a similar manner (and there's several changes to how the mainstream entertainment industry works), I doubt we'll get something as unique as G4 ever again.
>>43102330The only thing I care in regards to official MLP content is an alternative season acting as a continuation of Faust's canon (a "What if Cadence wasn't an alicorn and Faust had never left the show?) so they allow her to end the show she began. I don't think there's something uglier than an author not being able to conclude the story they created under their own terms (even if the end-result is awful).
>>43102164>He doesn't like My Little Pony TalesMonster.
>>43102220>>43102330You forgot that Hasbro specifically hired Faust to do that. Faust was basically MLP equivalent of Transformers' Michael Bay. There's a real chance that they'll return to creator-driven media tactic for G7.
>>43102411Currently the execs unironically think only G1 of MLP is popular and loved
>>43102411Michael Bay is coming back to direct more Transformers movies, so maybe, just maybe... Lauren Faust will come back to MLP. Back to FiM. Back home.
>>43101312G4 looks like flat abstractions of deer and I'm tired of pretending otherwise
>>43102560FiM ponies are the peak of character design. You can argue they hardly look like actual horses or lack equine realism, but you can't say with a straight face that the show doesn't look incredible. In fact, that unique cuteness is the primary reason the show blew up and why bronies even exist. If you kept the writing, humor, and plots exactly the same but swapped the art style for G1 or G3, the Brony phenomenon never would have happened. It would have just been another forgotten girls show from the 2010s.
>>43102560FIM ponies are cute and perfect.
>>43102601It doesn't. It looks like PPG with hooves.
>>43102601>If you kept the writing, humor, and plots exactly the same but swapped the art style for G1 or G3, the Brony phenomenon never would have happenedSo this is what it is like to have surface level interest in mares
>>43102682>Implying PPG looks bad
>>43102713You say that, yet I bet that between us two, you are the one who didn't watch G1, G3, and G5.I can say with hoof on my heart that, writing-wise, FIM is the best, but not by a mile, and if you gave G1 and G3 an FIM art style, you could see how close those shows were to each other in terms of writing, world-building and characters.G1 had good ideas, adventure plots and concepts.G3 had a couple of good jokes and gags.I really liked the episode about Misty's cute-ceañera (a couple of episodes after the finale) and how she was shy, fearful, and stressed about it since it genuinely kind of reminded me of Season 1 FIM. Not as good, but close enough to notice a faint feeling of early FIM and a classic slice-of-life episode about a friendship problem.There were cool characters from previous generations like Firefly, Minty or Pipp.Are those shows and generations worse than FIM? Yes, of course, they are, but if you could only see them through FIM's art style and pony model, you would prefer it over post-Faust FIM.
>>43100493jokes on them, I'd still fuck those cartoon horses.
>>43102739You're slopwashed-out
>>43102758>t. coombrain
>>43102758That's what I thought, you're just a art-style consumer, you don't really care about the ponies, you only want them to look cute.
>>43102797Im not that other anon btw
>>43102727Yes
not g6 unless they decided to use celesses art for the new gen and not just to advertise merch. god i hope they use her art as a design help instead of whomst ever the fuck it was last time. imaloser or whatever. i love her artstyle and hope we go back to a more g1 style but theyd never be this based. she actually makes cute looking traditional outfits stuff instead of bean sjw abominations.
>>43102739G1 is nothing like G4 at all, which is surprising since that was supposesly the inspiration for some amount of FIM. G1 has no character interaction or humour. Even G3 is much more like G4. G1's worldbuilding is not intriguing at all - like, there is so many generic fantasy stuff thrown in there for each arc, but almost nothing of it is interesting - the only piece of worldbuilding I found intriguing was the stuff around Tambelon (huh, coincidentally its arc is one of the only two good arcs in G1). Sadly, G1 is complete and utter slop and is nothing alike FIM. Every other show has more resemblance to it, especially MLP Tales and Twinkle Wish Adventure. G3 has the worldbuilding, humour, and comfy, girly, innocent vibes vaguely of FIM, Tales and TWA both have the character-focused writing of FIM. Tales also has the SoL-focus of FIM, and TWA also has the humour of FIM. G1 has nothing and never ever will. I hate G1 shilling. I hate Hasbro for only shilling G1 despite Tales and G3 being so much better.
>>43102411>Hasbro specifically hired Faust to do thatFaust wasn't the only one, Hasbro was going to hire someone else if she didn't. The franchise was in the gutter at the time so they didn't have anything to lose by letting her do something.
>>43102500>so maybe, just maybe... Lauren Faust will come back to MLPI won't believe it until I see it with my very own eyes. People are so starved of hope for the franchise that they'll overthink any new merch and go "See? MLP is back. We're finally getting good content again!"We're not, we haven't got a consistent flow of good official pony content for over a decade. And even if Faust gets back, while I doubt she'll do a poor job, there's a chance it is not gonna be the same as before.
>>43102916TRUTH. Tales and G3 will ALWAYS be better than G1.
>>43102916>G1 is nothing like G4 at allI've seen enough episodes to say that's not exactly true. While the differences between the 80's toy commercial cartoon and a 2010's show by one of the most beloved artist of her time are clear. G1 and G4 do share something in common which is a fantastical setting where the characters would, ocassionally or commonly, go into adventures. While G4 doesn't have as many adventures-focused episodes as G1, the inspiration is there, even if it's small.
>>43103427>Tales and G3 will ALWAYS be better than G1This is the pre-G4 equivalent of saying "Make your Mark and Tell your Tale are better than Friendship is Magic"And no, I won't elaborate, you're a Glimmer Flaggot so I don't need to as I'd be wasting my time.
>>43102916>t. ZippersStill mad because they showed how you lost your hair, except it never grew up. They had to use practical effects.
>>43102739I did watch G1, in my youth even, and it's nowhere near the level of writing as FIM is. If G4 had the art style it does but G1's 80s writing, or G3's ultra-safe preschooler writing, it would never have gotten as big as it did. The art style might've helped, but as I seem to remember from the original /co/ thread most people at the time weren't overly impressed with the looks, many started watching as a joke and then the reaction turned positive mostly because people were like "What the fuck, it's actually not even all that bad, enjoyable even compared to the cynical garbage produced today". And that was that.
>>43102916The only G1 episode I even remember that I somewhat enjoyed at the time was the episodes with the Flories. The rest made so little impression on me I don't even remember them.
>>43103444...what if i told you i kinda enjoy tyt over fim at some points...
>>43103664Including seasons 8 and 9 of FIM doesn't count.
>>43102916You do realize that Tales is part of G1, right? TWA sweeps everything besides FiM though.
>>43103818Tales is G1.5, really.
>>43103833The .5's and generations as a whole are determined by toy lines. Tales was still G1.
>>43103410imagine a parallel world where instead of Faust, Hasbro for some reason decided to pick up JohnK's My Little Ass
>>43103468>The art style might've helped, but as I seem to remember from the original /co/ thread most people at the time weren't overly impressed with the looks, many started watching as a joke and then the reaction turned positive mostly because people were like "What the fuck, it's actually not even all that bad, enjoyable even compared to the cynical garbage produced today". And that was that.People watched or decided to check it out because of the art-style and the fact that Lauren Faust was responsible for it, and that was it.The writing was surprising because it wasn't dogshit but it never was the main reason or draw for bronies to watch it.MLP's popularity rises from the fact that characters are colorful one note archetypes so autistic people can latch on to them. It helps that there are so many characters so there's a pony for everyone.>OMG purple horse is a nerd, just like me!>I like shy girls, yellow horse is my waifu!>I wanna fuck a tomboy so rainbow horse gets me hard!All the talk about the lore is suuuuuper deep and dark and character development being "genius" is pure cope. Everyone loves Luna because her design is cool and that's it. We knew nothing about her until halfway through season 2 but by then she was already arguably the most popular ponyrfu.I think people often downplay how much the Faustian art style did the heavy lifting for the fandom. When people say they love the ponies, they aren't just talking about thick thighs, breedable hips and that juicy ass, they’re talking about the total aesthetic harmony.The G4 model hit a goldilocks zone of cuteness. It was simple enough for fan artists to replicate, but expressive enough to feel like a real character. Next to the actual writing of the Mane 6, this design was the biggest factor in the show's success. It created an immediate cuteness response that bypassed the usual "it's a girl's show" response, making it easier for adults to justify watching it. Without that specific visual sovl, the show wouldn't have become the phenomenon it was.
>>43103885Tales is often referred to as G1.5 though, regardless of toy sales. G3.5 was also the same set of toys as G3 after all. Besides, we don't have to pay attention to the toy collector's legacy naming scheme: FIM redefined the fandom, so we can go our own way now.
>>43104134>All the talk about the lore is suuuuuper deep and dark and character development being "genius"Please link the post in this thread where you saw this.
>>43104134>The G4 model hit a goldilocks zone of cuteness>Exact same expression as in an earlier thread You're an engagement bot aren't you?
This is straight up slop. Perfectly in line with what Amazon was doing before. I don't know why any of you are giving this attention.
>>43104143I wrote it. It is a good description of the phenomena. I decided to copy/paste it because why bother writing it in a different way only because of a "I already wrote that, I can't write it again!" way of thinking since it's irrelevant whether I wrote "The G4 model hit a Goldilocks zone of cuteness" or "The pony model is perfect in its simplicity of design and hits that sweet spot in a male brain." It ultimately means the same thing.
>>43104142https://desuarchive.org/mlp/thread/43061429/#q43086721
>>43104159Are you unable to interpret a single line of text? Are you really a bot?
>>43104155Well it's wrong, but you're free to think you're a genius like mommy always told you you were.
>>43104169>You already said that 2+2=4! You should say something different now, like 5-1=4!
>>43104168Bait or mental retardation?
>>43103436>I've seen enough episodes to say that's not exactly trueDoubt. If you actually watched it you would know there are no similarities between the two.>G1 and G4 do share something in common which is a fantastical setting where the characters would, ocassionally or commonly, go into adventuresG1 does do adventure commonly; it even ONLY does adventure. G1 has no slice of life at all. G4 only does occasionally adventure. That again, is a difference that you pretend is a huge similarity. And nobody watches FIM for its adventure, but for it's SoL which is 90% of its episodes anyway.>>43103818For crippled autist bots like you I am going to say 'Rescue at Midnight Castle + Escape from Catrina + My Little Pony: The Movie (1986) + My Little Pony 'n Friends' next time, okay?>>43103487That one was solid enough. G1 was already pretty mediocre in its Season 1, but then it even further nosedives in Season 2 - and its animation budget also got cut in that season, lel.
>>43104142NTA, but why do you need a post about or discussing FIM's lore in this particular thread?
>>43104411>bring up "deepest lore" as an argument as if people were making that point during this discussion the first place>w-why do you want evidence from this thread
Wasn't FIM's lore and world-building just improved and deepened G1 lore?
>>43104430People were making an argument that FIM has the deepest lore out of all the MLP generations, which is correct, but it doesn't mean that much because the previous generation almost didn't have any worldbuilding. So the world of Equestria is bigger and deeper than the rest of MLP, but on its own, it isn't a well-developed world, and it is not as deep as people claim.>>43104457No.>>43104168Sorry, didn't read your post correctly.
>>43104411Is there a problem with that?
>>43104489I went on a little tangent there about FIM's lore since it irritates me how it was poorly developed, and I would prefer if the writers had just left it ambiguous. I don't know why you keep clinging to that as if it was the only thing I mentioned in that text, just as if you had no arguments for any of the claims.
>>43100730>tailbowsMy pp
>>43104194>And nobody watches FIM for its adventure, but for it's SoLYeah, the character interactions and personalities that were developed more deeply were the things I missed most in almost all 80s television shows for children. The characters were always as surface-level as could be, no pony had any real individuality, despite how they apparently seemed to have tried (hence even Faust likening Firefly to Dash) it didn't register in any way for me as a kid, so they clearly failed.
>>43104513That's a different anon, anon. I don't think FIM has deep lore at all, but I also vehemently disagree that the art style is the sole thing that made it popular.
>>43104855I think its worth mentioning that fim has lore which is effortlessly deep and that g5 and all other 'muh modern audience' endeavors are effortfully shallow
>>43104855I don't think that the art style was the sole reason for FIM's popularity.I think it was one of the main reasons for the show's popularity, sometimes in the first place, sometimes in the first place together with the Mane 6 and sometimes second.I tend to put one or the other in the first and second place because I think that the characters being colorful, one-note archetypes were really alluring to many to be bronies and the art-style only helped to consolidate the love of the show, and others (like Seth, for example) loved FIM for the art style, while the Mane 6 characters and cute ponies helped to put the art style to good use, making cute faces, cute poses, etc.To summarize my point, I think that the characters and art style are almost solely responsible for the show's success, and it really depends on how I feel at the moment whether I put the art style or characters as the biggest or number one reason for the show's success.
>>43104858G5's lore is hot garbage, but it won't stop me from liking the cute ponies. Except Misty of course.
>>43104858No.
>>43104886somepuppy's mad
>>43104886Riveting argument, old chap.
>>43104883>To summarize my pointAre you letting Gemini write your posts for you...?
>>43104897Sorry, I thought that I may not have made myself clear with that wall of text, so I wanted to shorten it and summarize it so my words won't be twisted when somebody would want to challenge my opinion.
>>43100585literally anything is better than that godawful art style to be fair.
>>43104892>I don't think FIM has deep lore at al>ACHCTUALLY ITS EFFARTLESSLY DEEP
>>43104922What the other anon meant is that while FIM lore on it's own isn't deep, it has tremendous potential to fill the world of Equestria with your own ideas and imagination and maybe even make your own fanfiction based on that.So it is not that contradictory to say that FIM's lore is "effortlessly deep" without actually being deep.
>>43104933That's not what effortlessly means, anonEffortlessly means it does so easily, accomplishing the goal without even visibly trying. If someone "makes it look easy", they're doing it effortlessly.
>itt anons are too retarded to understand FiM's worldbuilding is incredible because it leaves a lot to the imagination
>>43104944Well, according to >>43104939, it means that person who imagines and expands the world is incredible and not the world itself.
>>43104944>Dude just idk figure it out yourself lolThe worldbuilding is halfassed at best, you're praising laziness.
>>43104951I was just correcting someone who doesn't seem to know what "effortless" means. That was my first and only post in the thread, ad I was not involved in your argument prior to that.However, I agree with the notion that unpainted areas of the map are an ideal sandbox for the imagination. FiM's worldbuilding is great because it provides a solid bedrock of themes, styles, etc., provides many examples in the stories that do exist, and leaves just enough breadcrumbs for fans to extrapolate their own stories and ideas -which is crucial to the longevity of a setting like this.
>>43104962Can't you see that absence is more of a presence than presence itself? Faust has a very less is more philosophy to everything artistic, which I completely agree with. Because LESS is more, you don't have to explain every single tasteful deet of the world.Remember how mysterious and magical Stars Swirl the Bearded was before they completely killed the magic of his mystery by bringing him back? Remember how incredible it was to speculate on Celestia's and Luna's story and personalities and conflicts before they dumbed it down for the sake of fan service? Remember how fun it was to become co-creators of Equestria alongside Lauren Faust? Just as Lauren Faust imagined so many stories and details as a child when watching MLP, so does she invite us to wonder and ponder about the world of Equestria.Restraint from adding new things requires a lot more effort than just adding them, hence why the best software, the best art, the best systems, the best music, it's not conflicted and tries to be a lot of things by adding so much on top of each other, but letting the existing parts become something greater than its sum.
>>43104910>wall of text>4 lines of textI mean, I know it may look like a wall on your phone's screen but to the rest of us not shitposting it's just a simple paragraph.
>>43104971Leaving holes everywhere is not good worldbuilding no matter how much you cope. Books have good world building, some comics, and animays. Not kids shows that ask you to turn your brain off
>>43104978>>43104971You both have good points. But you're also both faggots.
>>43104977I was referring to how I wrote it, not how much I wrote, anon.And no, I’m not shitposting, I’m just sharing my opinion.It might sound stupid to you, but that doesn't make it a shitpost.
>>43104978Implication are not plot holes, Dark Souls has arguably the best worldbuilding of any videogame of all time and it does so precisely BECAUSE it leaves so much room for the audience to wonder what those implications mean, and how they went down.Faust had the same mentality when working with FiM. You could shrug Luna's redesign as just for the sake of a redesign, but it isn't it much, much more fun to imagine a whole story of Luna having to recover physically from her lunar prison? Her change then isn't a hole at all narrative wise but an invitation for US the audience to wonder and create alongside the writers. And THAT thing, the fact Equestria is a world so vivid and so free that invites creation is what makes this fandom so damn special!
>>43105003You're right that leaving things open to the imagination helps, but only if when you do fill it up yourself you're not left thinking "Huh? But then why would that have happened?" at every angle. Sometimes a writer can get away with this, but when it adds up over time and you can tell that it is not done because it was premeditated, but simply because there was nothing being thought of in the first place, you can see that it is just lazy writing being excused for being deepest lore.
>>43105014Yes, I agree. But that's not the case for Faust's worldbuilding, and that's my entire point.
>>43105015I disagree.
>>43105018Are you saying Faust didn't create an incredible world?
>>43104194>G4 only does occasionally adventureIt doesn't.Almost half of season 1 episodes are adventure-focused or have an important element of adventure to them, whether it is going to a place, facing a menacing creature or having to deal with other form of physical obstacle. Faust wanted the show for it to be more adventure-focused but Hasbro said "A bit more SoL" so she proposed a balance between the type of plots. If you had paid attention to the plots, you could tell.>nobody watches FIM for its adventure, but for it's SoL Not true either. Many fans fell in love with the show because of the adventure-esque aspect it had.Many bronies did watched it for the SoL, but also that many were fans of the adventure and world created. There's almost as many adventure-focused fanfics on the web as SoL-focused fanfics.While it is true that G1 has more adventure and there's an important chunk of SoL in G4, to treat adventure as a meaningless part of G4 is still very tone-deaf. Adventure (and adventure-esque plots) have an important place in the show because Faust thinks girls should learn they can do anything they propose. She also makes sure to give an important part to the world the characters live in both of her bibles (MLP Adventures and the 2008 mini show bible).I get that G1 isn't for everyone, but to deny its influence in G4's creation is quite obtuse.
>>43105003>Where does Celestia come from, or the alicorns? >Who cares lolAmazing lorebuilding
>>43105031Yes nigger it's not a plot hole but an invitation for you to createWhat is wrong with you people do you really just want ready-made narratives for you to turn off your brain to?
>>43105033>do you really just want ready-made narratives for you to turn off your brain to?Most NPCs do, yeah. That's why Star Wars is as big as it is, normies are obsessed with having a series/movie/book/literally anything to explicitly detail the narrative of every single aspect of a franchise.
>>43105036I just thought /mlp/ of all places would be better than to think just like an NPC normie.
>>43105041>I just thought /mlp/ of all places would be betterWhere does such a delusion hail from?
>>43105033>So uh, these magic rocks any explanation for them?>Hmmm I just wanted magic gurl anime shitFaustFaggots are diseased
>>43105051>they grew on a tree>clap clap clap clap
>>43105051>WAAHHH IM A LITTLE BABY AND I NEED EVERYTHING EXPLAINED TO ME!!!
If we, as a collective, laid down on the copium as to see how faust jumped the shark all the way back to the literal SECOND episode of SEASON 1 when she completely undermined nightmare moon's backstory and twilight's conflict of making friends in just a single fucking anime flashback powerup asspull that was neither earned, properly setup nor build up in the slightlest but instead just given to her by the writers because she happened to notice the strangers she just met being useful to her cause and thus, realizing"huh, having friends can be useful, never before in my whole life did I never stop to make that connection despite being characterized as the autistic nerd".problem?Nightmare Moon's struggle with being overshadowed by Celestia?Boom, gone! She was just being a whiny bitch that needed some rainbow tasting spanking to be set back on the right place.problem?Twilight's inflated ego and lack of social skills being the very things keeping her from making friends?Boom, gone! Friends just... come to her...willingly! She is actually flawless and just needed to learn how friends can be useful.problem?Celestia's failure with her sister being the cataclysm to her corruption and the error of the past that had to be corrected somehow if Celestia were to ever hope to get things back to normalcy with her sister?Boom! Gone! Thanks to floaty magic rocks going YEEE, Luna gets back with Celestia just fine, in fact, it's Luna who feels any kind of guilt or remorse for her past, as if she even had the opportunity to do anything wrong before being sentenced a 1000 years on the moon with no trial.They don't even attempt to make a connection between the main conflict and the protagonists, Twilight just wants to stop Nightmare Moon because hurr durr she is evil and eternal nights are bad, that's it! Nothing about that motivation relates to making friends or learning about friendship. What about Nightmare Moon's backstory relates to Twilight in any way? There's nothing! It's just generic evil backstory for generic evil villain that generic protagonist must defeat by overcoming their generic problem and save the day.The show only shines in the isolation of single episodes of contained narratives because it couldn't really go beyond that, it was, in fact, made primarily to sell toys and done so in a restrictive budget reflective of this fact.Lauren Faust did not revolutionize girl's media, she just struck gold in a time where there wasn't much competition and internet hype culture was up for grabs, all she really had to do was make a cute show with cute ponies in wholesome moments with nothing too annoying to scare the adults away and she would've won!Had she done nothing beyond the bare minimum of this formula, the results wouldn'tve differed.If you pay close attention, you would realize just how unremarkable the show is at everything else it tries, including comedy. It's a show made to be enjoyed, not really thought about.
>>43105074>Y-YOU DONT UNDERSTAND ITS REALLY REALLY DEEEP IF YOU JUST DONT THINK
>>43105033Not being able to read between the lines, and needing to categorize and clearly state everything, is a sign of autism. You are arguing with (probably undiagnosed) autists whose brains require things to be laid out in a certain way.
>>43105083Wise words anon
>>43105023The very example you list yourself is one she herself handwaved by saying she'd make up some bullshit that Luna changed "because she got depowered or whatever lol".FIM is a good world to work with, but don't act like it's on the level of Lord of the Rings. Like another anon said it's clearly an obvious children's show with children's level writing.
>>43105083>The stars will aid in her escape>>So whats up with that?>Fuck off faggot xxDDD you aren't reading inbetween the lines You are a fangay who can't handle any critical analysis
>>43105087And? The great part about FiM is that we rewrite and reinterpret everything all the time, look how many anons don't even consider everything after MMMystery on the Friendship Express canon. Faust is our hero sure but that doesn't mean we can't reinterpret and reimagine her vision, especially when she deliberately leaves things vague and open-ended for us to partake in
>>43105087>don't act like it's on the level of Lord of the RingsRight, because THAT is such a nicely tied-up narrative, lmao
>>43105092>when she deliberately leaves things vague and open-ended for us to partake inyou have an obsession and you're trying to fill in the gaps to cope with the occams razer that she isn't a good worldbuilder
>>43104971That's something I did missed about how Faust and company handled the first seasons. They followed a more vague approach to the world-building. Non-pony creatures were just treated as another part of the world rather than "here's the new creature. Here's a speech explaining how they had a gay orgy 500 years ago which caused aids all over Equestria and you don't give a crap about them. Just like you don't after we've turned other mysterious cool species into boring sludge"
>>43104939Sorry I should say that Faust makes fim look effortlessly deep lore and the entire commutative forces behind G5 make it look like a lot of effort, time, not so much talent, and money for a shallow lore
>>43105089It's funny you bring that up, because Lauren did want to address that at some point.
>>43105107>It was meant to sound like lore but actually we're hacksWhoa
>>43105114If you don't want to have a real conversation and just shitpost, I guess that makes it easy to ignore
>>43105119You destroyed your entire argument. It was never lore, it never entered her thought process when writing it out it only was filler padding for the soiboys. That means all the coping over her having good world building was has as much substance as a fart
Did someone say fart?
>>43105126>fartOH god its jim miller this explains everything
>>43105098>doesn't know what occams razor meansAlso William of Occam was a retarded friar.If your concept of worldbuilding means explaining everything in great detail then I'm sure you must LOVE the late seasons because they do a lot of that?Oh what's that? oh you don't? But whatever happened they explain EVERYTHING about EVERYTHING for NO reason so you must absolutely love it.
>>43105097>ACHCTUALLY LOTR ISN'T GOOD.
>>43105128>Why did Celestia just vanish when NMM was released? What happened>It happened off scene :)Jim Miller learned from mommy Faust.
>>43105131Never said it isn't good, but don't act like it's the holy grail of storytelling
>>43105139>This coming from the lit-let who thinks FiM is amazing with it's swiss cheese like structure.
>>43105139It is a holy grail of sotrytelling.
>>43105139Get off of the board, Martin, and finish Winds of Winter.
>>43105153The universe is calling
>>43105172>A nothing rebuttal.
>>43105026I guess you have a point. It would be more accurate to say that even in those adventure stories, character interaction is still the foundation of those stories, not the adventure itself, which is only the dressing to let the characters bounce off each other. Dragonshy does not tell a riveting adventure. It is an adventure... with almost no adventure. The only adventure part is the rockslide. There is no fight against the dragon even, only character interaction to show off the different personalities of the ponies in a vain attempt to convince the dragon to fuck off (or a buck in the face in Rainbow's case). In G1, all dialogue furthers the plot and the characters only exist to talk about the plot and exclaim what is happening on screen, and such. There would be no Fluttershy having to overcome her fear of dragons (and thus going up the mountain) in G1 - no being dragged up the mountain by her friends - no Hop, Skip, and Jump - no 50 rounds of Tic Tac Toe - no Rainbow trying to break her ball bouncing record, or her boasting about how she could totally take on the dragon by herself. The focus of Dragonshy is Fluttershy overcoming her fears to save her friends from being mauled and eaten by the dragon. And then in G1, you have Crunch the Rockdog, which does indeed have the rare occurance of some character interaction, and even in this arc, Wind Whistler's autism is NOT the focus of the story. All her autism struggle and the other ponies (suddenly) judging her for it is completely irrelevant and could be written out of the story very easily - it would be a less cute arc, but still perfectly intact. You cannot write Fluttershy out of Dragonshy, or Rarity out of a Dog and Pony Show. They are the focus, not the adventure or plot.>but to deny its influence in G4's creation is quite obtuse.It apparently had, supposedly, somehow, but I cannot see how. When watching G3, I had way more moments of:>Huh, this is kinda like in FIM - or - so this is what inspired this other thing in FIM...but I almost never had that with G1.
Man you guys are annoying when you argue about something. No wonder people avoid talking to you.
>>43105284>projectionDo (You) have anything else to say?
>>43105080I know this is kopipe, but it's a good one at least.
>>43100411Even if this isn't how it'll look like, G6 will still have a different artstyle than G4.I just don't get why, though. The FiM artstyle is already damn-near perfect, so why change it just for the sake of change?
>>43105402Its the irony of mlp. By "changing" it they are committing to doing the same thing they always do which for every generation and never anything differentIt would be a bold change for them to use a design that is proven to work rather than a new one every time which 4/5 times is a hideous failure
>>43105402If the FIM art style is so perfect and the show was carried solely by the art style, why did the fandom shrink to nothing by the end of season 9? Checkmate, Faustfags.
>>43105596Because meme faces.
>>43105596>the show was carried solely by the art styleNo one is saying that art-style was sole reason for FIM's success but that it was one of the biggest, if not the biggest reasons for show gaining popularity.
>>43105519>The bold choice is to remain stagnant in MY comfort zone... because I just want it OKAY!?
>>43105668You have to admit, it would be a bold change to the formula
>>43105664Yeah, that's what you are saying, we heard you the first time. It's still wrong.
>>43105685>It's acthchually the more adventurous option to use something that already exists like the pre-established gFourmula with its archetypes and settings pre-made for my goyslopbrain to consume
>>43105731of course it is you simpleton it would be the most radical option, it always is
>>43105402>The FiM artstyle is already damn-near perfect, so why change it just for the sake of change?If they were smart they'd realize they need to double down on the anime influence.
>>43105699>You are wrong.>I won't say how or why, nor will I provide an alternative point of view.
>>43105738>Rerun episodes? Yes those are for the true creatives!Stop typing you absolute clown.
>>43105757Now you're just hallucinating
>>43105761It's the logical conclusion of your bitchboy brain worms of [not ever going outside of thing you liked]
>>43105764Where do you think we are
A bliss which continues is heaven, and a suffering which persists is the entrenched mlp formula to which change is a threat
>>43105778>
>>43105778Total ESL death.
>>43104194>Gets basic info wrong>Spergs outSure is a fillyfag alright. Have fun in little space for me, big guy.
>>43105753I'm not going to repeat myself unlike what you have been doing all discussion.
>>43106432Claiming that you are not going to repeat yourself implies that you already countered my point or offered an alternative point of view once, but you didn't. You can finally offer a real counterpoint now and write a real response, or you can just leave the thread.
>>43106448>Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah ESAD
>>43106452>no argumentConcession accepted
>>43105402I agree that G4's style is perfect, but reusing G4's style would be more cringe than any terrible-but-at-least-original style. It's cynical, lazy, and anathema to the basic concept of art. Art should always be original and changing. If you're too autistic to understand that basic fact and would be content with an eternity of soulless regurgitated slop, I won't humor you any further
>>43106787>It's cynical, lazy, and anathema to the basic concept of art.Its none of those things
It would be a bold change to do something different from the stale formula
>G6 will probably be a 3D show.Is it even possible to make a good MLP 3D art-style and pony model?
>>43104140As far back as G3 the numbers were all over the place. Some collector fans even wanted to discontinue "Gx" numbering and only use toy series names because it got ridiculous, everyone increased number willy-nilly. What you know as G3.5 was G4 for a while, G4 was G5 for a short time, G4 itself was divided between G4 (pre-2017-movie) and G4.5 (post-2017-movie), until Pony Life came out, which some wanted to call G5 until the tweet from staff had everyone scramble to rename G4.5 into "G4 reboot", and Pony Life toys into G4.5. It's a mess.
