how common are race-related misunderstandings between members of different tribes?
>>43105841>tribesstop doing this. they're not called tribes. the show never calls them tribes, it exclusively calls them "kinds of ponies", "pony types" etc. if you want an actual word to for it though, use "race". i know exactly where using "tribe" comes from, and it's a stupid misconception nearly on the level of "plot". in the hearth's warming eve play, the narration refers to the three tribes, as "tribes" because they actually were seperate tribes at that point in time. then, idiots saw this, and thought it was refering to the different pomy races as tribes, since each tribe consisted of only a single race. and now, almost a decade and a half later, we still have people like you calling pony races "tribes".
>>43105846>the show never calls them tribessee Hearth's Warming Eve>Spike: [normal voice] I know. Can you believe it? [accent] During this frightful age, each of the three tribes – the Pegasi, the unicorns, and the Earth ponies – cared not for what befell the other tribes, but only for their own welfare. In those troubled times, as now, the Pegasi were the stewards of the weather. But they demanded something in return: food that could only be grown by the Earth ponies.
>>43105850try reading the whole post before replying.
>>43105854no, why would I do this?
>>43105841Just schlorp it up.
>>43105865>waiter puts the bowl in the center of the tableThanks, bonehead!
>>43105841I somehow never noticed until now how absurdly thicc cherry berry's hips and flanks are here. Fuckin' urf pony genetics
>>43105888Trips confirm, urfs got the fattest flanks in Equestria
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>>43105846>If you want an actual word for it, use [word that was actually never used]That's really funny. "Kinds" wasn't used to describe the different ponies until s4, and "types" was used in the same early pilot weirdness that still referred to Celestia and Luna as unicorns. Referring to ponies by their original tribe was peak lore expansion in classic fandom.
>>43105966>>If you want an actual word for it, use [word that was actually never used]better an accurate word that the show never used than an inaccurate one born from a misconception that the show also never used that way.
>>43105978How accurate can that be? Real horses are referred to as breeds, so if we go with unused words, a horsey word makes the most sense. However, we're talking about extra limbs and horns that irl ponies lack. Are 3 tribes separated since the beginning of time even the same species, or are they all hybrids now after magically interbreeding? Is there a common ancestor? If inaccurate words born from misconceptions are out, then I hope you didn't go with the alicorn retcon.
>>43105854Try watching the show before posting. They do say "tribes."
>>43105966Fluttershy refers to "the pegasus race" in Cutie Mark Chronicles
>>43106082Are you fucking stupid?
>>43105846>>43105854>"the show never calls them tribes">"Except for the one time the show calls them tribes, but that doesn't count!">"Instead use this other word that was never used in the show at all!"
>>43106085Are you?
>>43105846Just wanted to reply to say that you are an idiot.
>>43106037using the word "breeds" to refer to different types of a sapient species is kind of funny, but i like it. perfectly good word.>>43106044yes, to refer to something different. in hearth's warming eve, the word "tribe" isn't used to refer broadly to the different pony races, but to the three actual tribes that existed at the time. after equestria was founded, the three tribes stopped existing, hence why at no other point in the show is the word "tribe" used to refer to pony races.>>43106086again, the show never calls them tribes even once. the times it does use the word tribe are all refering to something else. the word race objectively makes more sense than "tribe" but i'm open to other suggestions if you have any better ideas. the show never gives a specific word for it.>>43106440i'm literally right though?
>>43106468Can you read?>>43105850
>>43106479yes, prior to the founding of equestria, there were three tribes of ponies, each consisting of a single race. after the foundation of equestria, these tribes united as one and stopped existing as individual tribes. if the word "tribe" is supposed to just refer broadly to the three pony races, then how come literally every single utterance of the word in the show refers to the ancient pre-equestrian tribes, and never once to modern ponies?
>>43106488NTA, but since tribe overlaps with the race of ponies that populate them isn't it an acceptable oversight to say "tribe" to mean earth ponies, pegasi and unicorns?It's not accurate, but everyone, and everypony, would perfectly understand what you mean by this even though the word is antiquated.
>>43106574i imagine that while that might work in the times shortly after equestria's founding, it might also be seen as an anti-equestrian statement. after all, even while they're still in living memory, those tribes don't exist anymore. refering to ponies as still being part of them makes it sound like you want them back.as for modern ponies, i don't imagine that usage of the term would have stuck around for over a thousand years, given how anti-unity it obviously would have sounded back then. and i also don't think many ponies would immediately connect the word to the ancient pre-equestrian tribes, and their homogenous natures, and then also connect that you're actually just talking about a pony's race, just in a really indirect way.
>>43106619It likely would have stuck in ponies' lexicon because it would've been used for a long time beforehoof, like how people in secular societies say "My god!" as an expression of emotion. Tribe would have lost its original political meaning and came around to mean a pony's subspecies
>>43106632my reason for thinking it wouldn't stick around is that period shortly after equestria's founding where it WOULD still have that political meaning to it. it would become very unpopular very quickly, and within a couple of generations, it's gone. forget a thousand years, the term would probably die out in less than a hundred.
>>43106642There likely would have been a pushback against it intially after Equestria's formation, but Tribe would still have been so widely used by the population by that point that it would be very hard to get rid of. People and ponies would still fall back on the language and lexicons of what they grew up with whenever we aren't thinking about our word choices. It would have taken generations of widespread concious effort to not pass down that language to the next generations, and many ponies wouldn't have been bothered. In that case, good old linguistic drift would've taken over and changed Tribe's meaning in their minds
>>43105841So was she supposed to be given a straw? Or is a unicorn supposed to spoonfeed her?>>43105888Earth mares are extremely fertile, there's room for triplets back there.
>>43106652eh. agree to disagree on how likely it would have been for the term to survive assuming it ever was used that way. but if you're right in that the word tribe refering to pony races would have a good chance of surviving for a thousand plus years, then the fact that modern ponies never use it that way is kind of evidence that it was never used that way, isn't it?
>>43106619Fair point. It's very likely modern ponies would be taken aback and think of "tribes" as "that thing from the hearth's warming tale".Though I don't think race would be the proper term either, at least not by definition since ponies are perfectly capable of interbreeding and having fertile offsprings (eg a pegasus and a earth pony can have a baby that in terms will have its own). I think they'd be more likely to use "kind" than "race", at least in universe. I'm sure none of the writers really cared about this and just threw whatever made the viewer understand the concept of pegasus != earth pony != unicorn.
>>43106707>I don't think race would be the proper term either, at least not by definition since ponies are perfectly capable of interbreeding and having fertile offspringsunlike human races?>I think they'd be more likely to use "kind" than "race", at least in universe.well yeah, that is what they use. along with type. really, i don't think they have a specific word for it, so they just use whatever makes sense. variety, category, whatever.
>>43106735Eh fair, I don't like saying "races" for humans it's wrong by definition. And there are plenty other ways to be racist towards others.
>>43106768i'm not aware of any species other than humans where the term race is used. (in real life of course).
>>43105846>your culture never existed, chud!
>>43105841This thread escalated into a debate about race rather quickly. Back on topic there is no reason an earth pony couldn't hold a spoon with a hoof.
>>43106774Dogs, cats and horses all are, aren't they?
>>43106619>anti-equestrian>anti-unityThis guy says everycreature.
>>43106768>I don't like saying "races" for humans it's wrong by definition.*guffaws*Anyway, anon is autistic but he does sort of have a point that tribes really just refers to the ponies before they united because they were simply organized in tribes based on race/breed. Anyway, the whole concept of race seems illogical in Equestria to begin with because even different species can have offspring, like dragons and ponies mating and the like.
>>43107139>even different species can have offspring, like dragons and ponies mating and the like[citation needed]the show does have mules, but I don't remember a single instance of pony/dragon crossbreed
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>>43107162lel
>>43107148Kirin, for example.
>>43107233the only thing they are "confirmed" to be are ponies (with Autumn's use of "every/anypony")Other parts are just /there/also aren't they supposed to be deer anyway?
>>43107261Not sure. I thought a kirin was like a longma, some dragon/horse-like hybrid. Anyway, there's also griffons, which we know for a fact are a cross-species breed.
>>43105841Never in Las Pegasus due to tourism. Never in harmonious Ponyville, and rarely in nearby diplomatic capital Canterlot. Rarely in Appleloosa since most are former Ponyvillians. Sometimes in the big railway connected cities like Baltimare, Vanhoover, and Manehattan. Often in Cloudsdale due to inaccessibility creating exclusivity, but they're not nearly as bad as other sky towns due to Ponyville's influence. Very often in isolated areas like Hayseed Swamps, Hollow Shades, and the crystal empire. Always in Sire's Hollow, which is less misunderstanding and more just plain racist towards pegasi.>>43107261Kirin are described in myth as deer, ox, goats, or horses with chinese dragon, fish, and western unicorn characteristics. So whatever the story feels like. Classical unicorns have cloven feet, so that's not a big deal breaker for being derived from horse stock.>>43107368Did you mean hippogriffs?
>>43107383>Did you mean hippogriffs?Them too I guess. I thought griffons were the offspring of eagles and lions, weren't they? I'm not that well-versed in mythology.
>>43107527my headcanon is that Griffons are more-or-less natural species created by Faust while Hippogriffs are muttsnot sure why other sapient species don't mix on this scale, though
>>43107527That's true in myth, but it's too strange for mlp to have the offspring of two different wild animals that mated result in a race of higher thinking creatures. Magic would have to be involved in the cross breeding or fusing to make that sort of sense to me. In season 8, chimeric monsters are fusions that can be magically separated into normal animals. One could consider griffons to be like this, for better or worse.
>>43107022those are called breeds.
>>43107852They're called races in my language.
>>43106086Mirin' those tri's
Imagining a Pegasus who wants to invite an earth pony to her house but can’t
>>43105841More than ya think
What slurs would be contrived for each subspecies of pony?
>>43106768>we are all one race, the human race
>>43110357>featherbrain>bonehead>dirt horsehow new r u
>>43105841I'm so happy my silly screenshot sparked some discussion.
>>43110445>>dirt horse>how new r uIt's mud pony you poser.
>>43110632shut up, dirt horse
>>43105841Unicorns are the master race.
>>43105841a lot
