Anything goes! (Some rules apply, see below)This thread is for anyone to drop in and post whatever's on your mind right now,Just about anything goes, so feel free to share your thoughts on an episode (or a tiny detail in one) or a character; share, review and discuss pieces of fan content you've seen, declare who the best pony is, describe what you've dreamt last night, and ask whatever you've been wondering about. Try to keep it pony related.All sorts of ideas, thoughts and questions are welcome, from the brief to the in-depth, especially ones that don't really fit elsewhere at the moment but also don't warrant their own thread either.Talk to each other! You'll find that sometimes asking further questions and bouncing ideas off one another can let a small thought blossom into something greater.However, please respect the following: Refrain from posting about drama (IRL and online), political shit, baiting and starting/participating in shitflinging/ angry shouting matches. Also try and keep it low on moral or legal arguments, they never go anywhere.Previous >>43170342
>>43183360Jumbo Don
Twilight Sparkle is worst pony.
>>43183360This horse is what's on my mind!
How long would I be able to get away with petting Twilight's mane while she's reading books before she makes me stop? Because I'd want to do that a lot.
>>43183367Well that was unfortunate
I like G5 a lot and I wished we had gotten a better series to follow up on the movie.They did pretty much everything exactly right to be it's own thing. I love the characters so much. Izzy is my girl, Sunny is cute and relatable, Hitch is such a good male character. And the pegasus sisters have a really cool dynamic.I love the worldbuilding too, magic returning to a modern world is so cool, it could have been like Shadowrun with sparkly pony optimism instead of edgy grimdarkness, you know?The pony races fearing each other and learning to trust again is beautiful and exactly what the world needed for the 2020's, too.I love it. I love them. We were robbed.
>>43183408>They did pretty much everything exactly right to be it's own thingWell, everything except literally the most important thing - having it be a separate universe from G4. Instead, Hasbro went with the worst of both worlds.
>>43183415It is it's own thing. People always blow this bit out of proportion. There's a little wink and a nod at the start of the movie and that's it. It's far enough removed in time that G4 feels like ancient myth, a long forgotten past like the first age from lord of the rings.it only enhances the feeling of how different the new equestria is, if you ask me.The show only started pulling in G4 characters when it was clear that teletubbies with ponies wasn't popular and they needed to generate hype somehow, creating a ton of continuity issues. That was the real mistake.
>>43183408>I like G5 a lotSorry to hear you have brain damage.
The opening scene alone is so tightly written, I'd have to write a novel to cover everything it does right. That doesn't happen by accident, they really truly cared. I think they were just forced to cut the movie down to 90 mins.That new opening is right up there with the classic dune 1984 opening as a true masterpiece of cinema writing.
>>43183428>There's a little wink and a nod at the start of the movie and that's it.That's what made it a terrible decision. It's saddled with baggage by being in the same universe, but it's too far removed from what came before to bank off of what was already established. It was the worst of both worlds, attached to what came before but without being able to actually make use of it.
Speaking of g5, I wonder whatever happened to the Twilight slide thread schizo? I haven't seen him in a while.
>>43183439what baggage? It adds a mythic connection to that past, metanarratively acknowledging the importance of where it came from, without necessarily having to be the same thing. I think it's the highest form of respect they could have given.ya'll just aren't happy with nothing.
>>43183458The baggage of being a sequel series, of being directly compared to what it's a successor to but without any of the advantages of actually being a direct continuation. It should have just been an entirely new thing with zero relation to G4.
>>43183478it's not a sequel.>It should have just been an entirely new thingit basically is, except it acknowledges the past with reverence. it's literally the opposite of all the cynical deconstructivism stuff we've been getting in media for over a decade.
>>43183482>it's not a sequel.Then they shouldn't have had it tied to G4 at all. That's why the 'little nods' you think are so great were a bad thing. They tied it into something it should have been disconnected from.
>>43183489they tried to give you the world on a silver platter and you're pissing that it's the wrong colourthankless
>>43183496>please please please feel bad for the corporation they worked very hard on this slopYeah no.
>>43183502the corporation worked very hard to destroy it, I am aware. that's why I say we were robbed.
Hi there. I was watching a bit of MLP FiM when all the hype was around the net. (2011-2013) Then i abandoned watching it cause of a "Guilty Pleasure" Sort of. I know that the show has ended 7 years ago, and i'm just wondering if i should give it another shot. I've heard that Season 8 is an ass and a soft reboot, that it should be watched a bit then skipped to season 9. Honestly, i just wanna read your thoughts on this. I'm still amazed that this fandom is still alive even after G4 has ended.
there's really only two roads here>corporate trend-chasing slop for babies mixed with perpetual nostalgiafagging over G4, maybe some future soulless attempts at rebooting G4 until the brand is finally run into the ground for goodor>a genuine heartfelt attempt at building something new and original that mirrors what G4 did well, while paying respects to that legacyyou GOT the second one, against all odds you got that. and you keep wishing for the first.
>>43183516Just curious, are you aware that G5 was born out of a G4 reboot that used the same basic 'the tribes all hate eachother and only our heroes can bring them together' premise?
>>43183516>you GOT the second oneI did? When? Can I see it?
>>43183508it's still a good show, even if it has some ups and downs.but watch G5 "A New Generation" movie instead so you can feel with me the missed potential and fall in love with Izzy, Hitch, Sunny and the rest.
>>43183520bad things end up on the cutting room floor. so what? doesn't change what actually went into the movie was brilliant.
>>43183523I'm not sure what we got was that much different than what they had planned to do with the reboot. Perhaps that says that the two roads you describe aren't quite as clear as you say they are.
You guys proud of that Clop article on Wikipedia?You know. The one by Czu?
>>43183524they decided the disunity theme was strong, which it is. they pivoted away from a pure reboot, which was good. they made the right decisions and it failed.what you'll get now is the first path, instead and you won't like it.or maybe you are really a consoomer at heart and will buy the merch until the end of time.
>>43183527>>43183516G5 was already the first path you described, that's the problem.
>>43183527The point I'm making is that corporate touch is not something you can simply avoid when creating a Hasbro product. For me, G5 going 'hey look ponies have e-celebs too isn't that crazyyy' was groan-worthy and clearly Hasbro putting their touch on things to appeal to the youth. For me, Izzy rapping to a weird combo of trap and 80s guitar was groan-worthy and clearly Hasbro trying too hard. In fact pretty much all the musical numbers outside the first felt that way to me. It's entirely possible that I'm just old and out of touch at this point but I do not think that the movie is purely a heartfelt attempt to build something new.
>>43183530all evidence is to the contrarytry reading the reply chain, they really did well with the characters, themes and world building, it was not soulless in the slightest. they maybe considered a reboot but rejected it because it wasn't good enough.they did everything right because they cared. they paid homage to G4 because they cared.they won't care like that ever again. you blew it.
>>43183526Actually yes. That is one thing that this board HAS accomplished.
>>43183391Sufficiently monotonous petting may be beneficial for concentration.>>43183482>all the cynical deconstructivism stuff we've been getting in mediaDoes it really happen? I hear people talk about it a lot, but when you ask them to provide any specific examples it tends to land into one of the three categories: a case of the deconstructed thing fully deserving the scolding, an honest attempt to make a neat derivative by people who just sorta suck at creativity, or the new Matrix.
>>43183535MLP always had marketing mandates, like having to include twilight's balloon in G4. that doesn't matter.the real problem is that the movie is the equivalent of the G4 opening two-parter, it sets the stage and establishes basics, but it took the entire season to flesh out the world and characters to what we know and love.G5 never got that season. they immediately pivoted direction because of a lot of bad stuff happening behind the scenes. if you had to judge G4 purely on those first two episodes you'd think differently of it too.and in fact the movie is substantially better than that two-parter, if it had a proper series to follow it up, it could have been even better than FiM, without shitting on it.
>>43183536G5 was shit and nobody likes it for a reason. Get over yourself.
>>43183526>gaping wikipony pussyuh, based?>43183544I accept your concession
>>43183545>No argumentDone.
>>43183542>MLP always had marketing mandates, like having to include twilight's balloon in G4. that doesn't matter.Tone obviously matters when it comes to whether or not people like something. I get that it worked for you, I'm not going to say you're objectively wrong for that, but I don't think the G5 series was ever going to have a tone I enjoyed based on how the movie was written. It had some good character moments, primarily between Izzy and Sunny, but everything surrounding that annoyed me rather than charmed me and I don't think that was going to change with a series. I'm sorry you didn't get the G5 you wanted, that sucks for you, I'm just explaining why that probably wasn't going to win me over.
I made tons of arguments, you just refused to accept them and then fall back on saying "it's shit lol" when you lost
>>43183526>czu
>>43183555>I made tons of arguments"UMMM WELL THEY TRIED REALLY HARD SO YOU HAVE TO CONSOOM THE SLOP" is not an argument.
>>43183554there's a lot of things about G4 that were groanworthy too, it's a show for little kids that stumbled into narrative depth that had a universal appealI think the G5 movie did overuse songs where they weren't needed, but the songs that it did well were really good.
>>43183570I think we just have fundamentally different tastes. The G4 reboot was supposedly going to lean harder into the fantasy element and I found that to be interesting despite all the other red flags coming from the production, I like the blend that G4 has but I'd be willing to see something even more fantastical. G5 instead does the opposite, it leans into the contemporary even harder than G4 and I find this extremely unappealing. I also think it's almost certainly something that Hasbro pushed as, much like with EqG, execs over the past decade and a half think that kids won't like shows unless the show's basically about their real lives. I personally find that style of show extremely unappealing. You clearly don't mind that and that's great for you, but I do.
Didn't read anything itt but them fucking up the g4 lore alone is why I have no interest in g5. Killing off some of the mane 6, twi being a shit ruler, ponies seperating into clans, etc. None of it make sense or follows logically to me. I also just don't like it which is much more important than wether or not it's good.
Caught up with the melty near the end of the previous thread and just want to say I think it's really, *really* funny how invested people get in a "cute girls doing cute things" show aimed at children for not making 6 gorillion percent narrative sense.
>>43183393Genuinely, what could he have possibly meant by this. It's a real camera roll filename, it's sideways implying it was taken on his own phone. Incredibly unfortunate.
>>43183591>I also just don't like it which is much more important than wether or not it's good.
>>43183591G5, as far as I am concerned, is a poor-quality, noncanonical fanfiction.
>>43183540>Sufficiently monotonous petting may be beneficial for concentration.True, she might be able to tune it out entirely in which case I could do it indefinitely. I'll have to hope for such a success.
>>43183593If that was the only appeal MLP had then we wouldn't be here.>>43183582G4 is already high fantasy, it was good to do something different. If that aligned with corporate goals then that's great.Having magic and fantastical stuff intruding on a mundane world makes the magic more magical. MYM's big mistake was just having it as status quo since episode 1.Where is the episode with Izzy learning her first real spell, and maybe it backfires in a dangerous way, and it makes some earth pony scared of her? And they have to figure out how to control it and make the earth pony trust her again. Maybe the earth pony is hitch and he kinda starts to fall back into his fearful ways but sunny is there to pull him out of the fear and it deepens their friendship.That's the sort of potential you have in the setup that I'm deeply sad we never got to see.The characters are brilliant, the setting is brilliant, the visuals are beautiful and pleasant, and you can tell they leaned into slightly more gender neutral colours while keeping it vibrant.
>>43183593Whenever people get heated about the show's writing and zero in on every minute detail to argue over I'm put in mind of that one convention going brony that asked the VAs about the show's supposed rape themes.Some people don't just miss the forest for the trees, they'll introduce entirely new plants to focus on instead.
>>43183611he asked about the molestia meme no? it wasn't a direct rape question iirc.
>>43183612otherwise known as the dark side of the fandom
>>43183610>If that was the only appeal MLP had then we wouldn't be hereWrong
>>43183360UNF, I want to fuck twily's rump
>>43183610>G4 is already high fantasyEh, it is a fantasy setting but it spends a lot of time in the mundane which is part of what I like about it, it just (at least at the best of times) doesn't let the mundane feel exactly like our world.>If that aligned with corporate goals then that's great.Well then, like I said, the line between 'pure heartfelt expression' and corporate product isn't as clear as you made it out to be. You're fine with corporate mandates so long as you like the result, you're just upset because G5 ended up not matching your expectations, whether that's due to corporate mishandling or differing creative goals or both.
>>43183623>You're fine with corporate mandates so long as you like the resultSo long as it doesn't interfere with the quality of the show. If they can build a compelling world that is modern day, which they did, then that is good.If it is to cut a movie down to 90 minutes destroying pacing and continuity then it is bad.If it is pivoting the audience to 4 year olds so we can't have good character development or interest plots then that is bad.Working within constraints and still producing something good is genuine soul. Spiderman TAS is the ur-example of that.G5 could have been great, and a good chunk of what we got in the movie was great. Because the people making it cared.
the fuck are you guys talking about?
How come there's no Cheese Sandwich option?
>>43183639
>>43183640There's no genuine Cheeseheads, get real.
>>43183639ponies what do you think
>>43183644:(
This show is vulgar.
>>43183669>Twi butt shakeunf
>>43183639Two pseudointellectuals argue over the writing quality of goo goo gah gah baby show for babies about magic talking pastel ponies.Hilarity ensues.
>>43183685Correction, more than two. I dropped out like halfway through and some other anon took my place.
rape and murder every shitposter and everyone who likes what I dislike (almost everything). I will not answer as to what I like/dislike so don't bother asking or answering for me, as so fucking many of you like to do for some reason.
I want to jizzle inside Drizzle.That's it. That's what I have in my mind.
>>43183451Too poor for the pedoproxy, I assume.
>>43183696That's even funnier
I think the anon who rejects Molestia, at the end of last thread, is based and ponypilled
>"Celestia 'canonically' mind rapes ponies because she could, theoretically, mind rape ponies. It just makes sense you know."Why are people like this?
>>43183998
>>43183998They are twisted and evil. Ponies are pure and like hanging out with their friends and doing not evil things. People can't stop injecting human societal problems into a setting that doesn't have them because they can't fathom a place without it.
>>43184041'Scuse you, I'm on them threefold
Ponies (mares) also like having sex with me
>>43184208this but your mom
Ponies (mares) don't like having sex with me. They don't dislike it either it's just that I've never had sex with a pony so they have no opinion on the matter.
>>43183360The only pony I will have sex with is Luna because she is my wife
I wish I had friends.
>>43184158>human problemsWhen the hell did we get psychic abilities? I should be telekinetically hugging my filly right now!
>>43184158The show's entire premise is a group of friends dealing with realistic, human scale interpersonal conflicts. I don't know where you get this stuff from.The setting doesn't have corruption issues because the ruler is a mythical, immortal philosopher-queen. Not because ponies aren't capable of corruption.
>>43184412Good news! You're going to go on an adventure and make friends at some point.
>>43184537What's the real life version of Ponyville and Canterlot?
>>43184544Well that's Izzy so those aren't really the relevant locations.
>>43183998Huh?
>>43184748What?
>>43183775Molestia is based and ponypilled
>>43184759can you repeat the question?
>>43184947Wazzat?
Horsefucking is Aryan culture. Big H would approve of this board
Used to be here back in like 2015, haven't visited in a hot minute. I watched a good portion of FiM but I dropped it around S6, I've been rewatching it recently and I'm wondering if I should bother watching the rest of the seasons - I hear post S6 that the show ended up being written by bronies which led to an "inmates running the asylum" issue by the end, but I've still heard some good things about it. Is it worth giving the rest of the show a shot, or is it something I should watch with friends to riff on to get through? Either way I WOULD like to get through the rest of the show since I never finished it proper.Have a Ponk as compensation for the tl;dr.
>>43185312I'd say watch until you stop having fun, that's what I'm doing. If you find an episode to be extremely boring and need to get through it via bullshitting with buds then do that but you never know, you might really like a random episode that nobody else gives a shit about.
>>43185312Everything is better with friends, Anon. Unless you want to seriously analyze the show, watch it with friends. You'll have a better time.
>>43185333>Unless you want to seriously analyze the showLolLmao
>>43185333I used to think this but now I find doing things with friends exhausting
given a roomful of all the posters in this thread and a sock with a rock, i'd end up with blood everywhere or dead
>>43185831Nuh uh. I'll hug the shit out of ya bitch.
>>43185831That seems overly dramatic.
>>43185838gay
>>43185909mlp:fim if it was good
>>43185909Ah yes, Sparkleponies. What a concept.
>>43185909HOLY KINO
>>43185909:uncomfy:
>>43185312>I hear post S6 that the show ended up being written by bronies which led to an "inmates running the asylum" issue by the endnot really bronies, more like hacks who were too aware of their adult audience
>>43185909Boy that thumbnail sure looks like something else
