Come one and all to the meta-writefag and help raise the quality of MLP fanfiction! Featuring: Feverish fetish writing!ITT: Writing only 200 words a day, committed to your 8 years off the sauce, Black on Black Violence, getting high for science, I am racist, she's just normal but everyone around her keeps expecting her to grow up into some epic subversion of a princess, writing a lot words on coke, averaging 0 words/day, a really high word count from describing body parts alone, watching a twitch stream and talking in chat while writing, take out the title's most identifying words, keeping three different /a/ threads bumped, new and exiting mental issues from reading too much mlp fiction, Sweetie Belle met God, a Shakespearicles-tier one-note bitch, that gay frontleg slap fight, dissatisfied with writing over 100 short stories, writing the start in a furious haze then falling off, Colgate appreciates the business, coveting thy neighbor's semen, pretending you're a writer, ellipses, slurs for ponies who dated outside of their tribe, and a sequel any day now!>/fimfic/ Secret Book ClubThe one hundred and seventy-third book is Winds of Change:https://www.fimfiction.net/story/478767/kaidanIf (You) want to participate, read the whole story by Sunday, May 10th.>Recommended stories:Tired of adventures that meander for a million words? Fed up with super special OCs? Well, we've compiled the best of the worst in order to bring you our absolute average!New Starter Kit - http://mlpficreviews.org.uk/starter/Old Starter Kit - http://i.imgur.com/vuTA7EN.png>Common fic abbreviations used by the thread:https://ponepaste.org/7317>A list of reviews made by the Anons in this thread:http://www.mlpficreviews.org.ukUse the commands ">review <story link>" and ">discuss <story link>" to add reviews to a story.Userscript for extra features: https://ponepaste.org/8619>An in-depth writing guide for beginners:https://eznguide.neocities.org/>Additional material for authors:Rhorse's Horse Behavioral Notes - https://ponepaste.org/932Politics and the English Language - https://www.orwell.ru/library/essays/politics/english/e_polit/Vhatug's tips for anatomically correct clop - https://poneb.in/g4VpEg4fPurdue Online Writing resources: https://owl.purdue.edu/owl/index.html and https://owl.purdue.edu/owl/subject_specific_writing/creative_writing/writers/index.html>Can you pre-read my story?Post it on Google Docs or HackMD with comments enabled and give us a link.>Various reviews and riffs:Fillyanon's Bookshelf - https://ponepaste.org/5555Notkickass222urmom's Reviews - https://pastebin.com/u/notkickass222urmomIHeartShinzakura's Reviews - https://ponepaste.org/user/IHeartShinzakuraAppleanon reads fics - https://poneb.in/wmGX7FPmDeluxe Big Master Review List - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1z9Bz7UnEbxo-svlXa2tV49PJkP-yFuR7pRXiBUn-IeUA Guide to Rational Fics - https://files.catbox.moe/3jzrfm.pngPrevious Thread: >>43184963
How shameful do you think it is to not finish a story? Do you not read a story because its author has abandoned other stories?
>>43223617Oops, messed up the club fic link. It should be:https://www.fimfiction.net/story/86542/winds-of-change
>>43223618>>43222587>Will there be a sequel?No. Once he joined the military, I knew it was over. Then he got married and had a kid and hasn't logged into his account in three months. It ain't happening.>Did you like it?I liked it. Definitely the peak of the "magic is dying" far future genre. >>43223618>because its author has abandoned other storiesI almost never pay attention to who's actually writing the story and never "research" them to see what their other fics are like. Only time I click on their other fics are if the one I'm reading is really good and I want more like it.
>>43223618Not finishing your story is the greatest shame anyone can have. How dare you.
>>43223618My attitude is that you can end a story at any point with any kind of contrived happening (like your final chapter being everyone dying of a heart attack), so there's no difference between a finished fic and an unfinished fic. A finished fic with a bad, abrupt ending may as well be an unfinished fic that ends on a sudden point.
Postan for non-Tuna Luna
>>43223617>Writing only 200 words a dayI'm timing myself now. I didn't even write for an hour yesterday, but I wrote one thousand words. That's pretty good, I think.
>>43223617>Find decent HiE fic>Story is decent if a bit generic>The usual 'Human is treated with mistrust initially' spiel.>Out of nowhere, Celestia and Luna go from genuinely trying to help the MC, to being comically evil and actually hating him for an undisclosed reason >MC flees Equestria and goes to either Klugetown or some OC town>MC then becomes Super Emperor God King of location and gives them modern human tech somehow >MC waxes poetic about how bad Equestria was and how bigoted the ponies were... while destroying Equestrian Cities and killing large swaths of the populations>MC ultimately becomes the worst villain in Equestria but claims he's the heroWhat causes this? Because without naming fics, I've seen this like ten times in the past week. Four of which were Anthro fics with a Human MC.
>>43223617>watching a twitch stream and talking in chat while writingThere is absolutely nothing of value on that shithole of a website. No good entertainment. No nothing else.>>43224037>What causes this?Author power/revenge fantasy. People like the idea of inflicting complete destruction against enemies who have wronged them for no warranted reason. Which serves as a justification for absolving oneself of any responsibility for moral conduct or reciprocity with them.
>>43223617>watching a twitch stream and talking in chat while writingIt was an art stream on Picarto, but yeah, I'm getting better mileage out of just tweaking other things during streams now.>>43223618It's deeply shameful. I hate that I even let some get away with me, and now they've gone over a year without a new chapter.
>>43224037>>Find decent HiE fic>>>decent >>>HiEYour problem is a complete lack of judgement.
>>43224067>There is absolutely nothing of value on that shithole of a websiteAnison Matrix gets streamed there so you're wrong.
>>43224037>>43224121Don't forget reading FOUR (4) anthro fics in a single week
>>43224121The HIE genre is not for the faint of heart. It’s not just about sending humans into the world of Equestria; it’s about transcending the boundaries of fiction itself. Just as you wouldn't expect to stumble upon a Shakespearean play in a high school drama class, or find the nuances of a Tolstoy novel in a community book club, you simply cannot expect mere /fimfic/ posters to grasp and master the profound depths and soul-stirring complexities of the HIE genre. It's the apex of storytelling. Too intricate, too delicate, too soulful for most to comprehend, let alone capture in writing. The problem isn’t with the genre. The issue lies in its towering grandeur, which is just too monumental for the average writer. We don't lack good HIE stories; we lack the literary giants to pen them.
>>43224125I don't know what to tell you anon. Big tiddy anthro Celestia just does something to me.
>>43224148You don't have to tell me anything but you also don't need to act all indignant when you dive head-first into a full dumpster and find some mold growing
>>43224148Based. Read FiMC.
>>43224126All of that just to cope with the reality that HiE is hot garbage that only low IQ retards read.
>>43224162Link it.
>>43224166Someone didn't read the OP.
>>43224125what's the appeal with "anthro" fics? seems pointless.
>>43224174Lack of imagination and a fetishistic attachment to human limbs.
2017 was almost 10 years ago
>>43224174People have weird fetishes
>>43224174Face blindness
>>43224174I mean I kinda get the appeal.>Anon likes character >Anon also likes tits>Give character human like form but with MLP pony feature(hooves, muzzle, horn, wings, fur, etc)>Now character is best of both worldsI also understand why people don't like it. But honestly, I can go either way, seeing as I've beat my meat to Krystal from Star Fox countless times. Both are fine to me.
>>43224199Ah, but ponies have teats. The only thing ponies doen't have that anthros do is hands and feet, meaning anthrokikes like yourself are hand and foot fetishists
>>43224204>The only thing ponies doen't have that anthros do is hands and feetIf an anthro pony has feet, the author is doing it wrong. Hands are normal but no hooves is stupid.
29th for best duo! Enjoy this conveniently packaged Tuna: https://www.fimfiction.net/story/429016/vertigo
>>43224204If an anthro has feet then you just know it's foot fetishists, yeah. But from what I've seen that's usually reserved for visual porn, not literary. I've rarely seen stories of anthros without hooves.Also>hand fetish
Speaking of things in HiE fics that are retarded>Human reveals he is an omnivore.>Panic, name calling and potential violence ensuresIn most instances it's Fluttershy that takes the most offence.. which is retarded because she's probably the ONLY one that'd immediately be understanding about it due to her having animals that she converses with that way meat. Hell she straight up feeds some with some fish that was IN HER DAMN MOUTH. Also, I'm pretty sure Griffins eat meat so yeah.
>>43224166https://www.fimfiction.net/story/238368/friendship-is-mind-control
>>43224204>>43224241The only reason I occasionally enjoy anthro is indeed slender arms and hands. I don't know why but it has something that thick stubby hooves don't.Also much more versatile for bondage, unfortunately. Ponies doing most things with a vague cartoony hoofgrip makes it much more difficult to restrict their dexterity in any sort of tactile detail and often requires resorting to equally handwavy methods.
>>43224204I used to not be into feet but I'm warming up to them.
>>43224292Gonna be real with you.. not a big fan of mind control.
>>43224372You will be.
>>43224374No. No I do not think so.
>>43224372Read it anyway.
Thread's off to a great start, I see.
>>43224037A large portion of HiE fanfics are influenced by isekai manga and anime, so you can expect there won't be much originality in these works.
>>43224372Nobody has ever made a good mind control story, but a strange part of me still holds out hope that it isn't technically impossible.Like how Lord of the Rings is the one good corruption story, I think someone could square this circle.
>>43224469Yeah, but Celestia and Luna going from good to suddenly being the 'true bad guys' of the world is so fucking retarded. Especially when it happens out of left field with literally zero build up or implication.
Okay but what if Benjamin Franklin arrived in Equestria? Which MILF mare would he get to cracking?
>>43224581your mom
>>43224585My mom's not a horse, she just gets ridden like one.
>>43224592but that means she's a horse tbf
>>43224880Only if she gets paid
>>43224482What's wrong with FiMC iyo?
>>43224482>Nobody has ever made a good mind control storyYou need some Yu-Gi-Oh.
>>43224482https://www.fimfiction.net/story/500819
>>43225034That's clearly evil mind control.
>>43224037>anthroquestria meets genocidal hfyfaggotryTruly, a match made in Tartarus.
>144 likes on obvious AI fichttps://www.fimfiction.net/story/589899/hands-that-held-me
>>43224994It's porn. It's pretty bog standard corruption slop that hinges on OOC. The stakes and tension amount to an uninteresting "mind control chess match" arc with a disappointing ending. I don't like seeing noble characters brought low, which is what so much of the genre hinges on.Frankly, the bare minimum for even fetish/porn MC for me to read it is if the character has the power foisted on them against their will and proceeds to eithera) not use the power ever, but it's open knowledge they have it, so it hangs over the characters' relationships and pollutes them with gross tensions and unwanted intimacies, orb) would never voluntarily use it, but are forced by external factors (best of all is natural, blameless ones for which no villain can be pointed to) into doing so and have to responsibly navigate the process with their victims of varying willingness.In either case, the art requires the requisite angst and tears or I cannot masturbate.>>43225006I will give YGO that it's getting there at times. Unfortunately, it is manga.>>43225034I choose to believe that you knew I was the dipshit from 2 threads ago who got sucked into rereading Celestia's Relaxing Vacation and are baiting me amidst that awareness. I'm perilously close to being retarded enough, but in the end, nobody goads me into reading torture porn twice in a row.
>>43225163>I choose to believe that you knew I was the dipshit from 2 threads ago who got sucked into rereading Celestia's Relaxing Vacation and are baiting me amidst that awareness. I'm perilously close to being retarded enough, but in the end, nobody goads me into reading torture porn twice in a row.It's, without a hint of irony, a good fic with mind control.
>>43225163Don’t worry. If he goads you into reading torture porn, then that just means that two separate people have done it, not that the same person did it twice in a row.
>>43224037>decent HiE fic>Four of which were Anthro fics>What causes this?Having shit taste, primarily.>>43224174They're the critical porn bridge for normies. It goes I Would Never Masturbate to Ponies > Humanized > Anthro > Pony.>>43225163>my bare minimum for fetish porn is for the fetish to never actually be in the story but just be weirdly implied in the background or for the characters to sign detailed consent waivers at the start of the storyThat sounds really retar--wait, you're the "I hate torture snuff porn but I read a 400k snuff fic TWICE" anon. Never mind.
>>43225163Imagine being this retarded.
>>43225627>or for the characters to sign detailed consent waivers at the start of the storyhey, woah, do NOT put that faggotry on me nigga
>>43225163>Frankly, the bare minimum for even fetish/porn MC for me to readThese are specific tropes and plot elements you want to see for your personal preferences, not some objective mark of a "good mind control story".FiMC does have a real OOC problem plus obviously it's anthro. But the rest of your ramblings are pretty much entirely detached from the idea of finding "the one good mind control story".
>>43226021I figured it was implied that we were delving into preference territory after I said "fetish/porn" and "for me". Genuinely good MC in the literary sense would be none of those things.
>>43226021>FiMC does have a real OOC problemNot if you assume the spell is fundamentally evil.
>>43226045Sure, but that only solves the problem of whether or not it was OOC because the author made a mistake.It's one thing for a character to act out of sorts to accentuate something being off, another thing entirely for a story's reading experience to just barely feature the presence of the original characterization at all. We read stories about this canon for a reason.
>>43226045It's been a million years since I read it, but did the spell have any effect on Twilight initially? If so then I suppose it's technically OOC but in a way that is honestly completely natural in a, you know, mind control story.I suppose you simply cannot achieve in-character characterisation when the entire premise is that every character is under mind control influence.
>>43226078I feel like this is where I would want to go into a spiel that ICC / OCC are completely arbitrary and matters of perception not concrete reality but the last time I did that a resident poster here got really mad.
>>43226080I personally don't care about ooc but I don't read some kinds of it. Speaking from personal experience with fanfiction. It depends on my mood and what I'm looking for and I think some people take it too seriously.
>>43226080I think they can be fuzzy and there are grey areas, but that does not mean that they are arbitrary. Characters have some established personalities and traits; effectively, IC/OOC means "is it believable and natural for this character, with its known and established personality and character traits, to behave this way or do this or that?".Sometimes a character will act in a way entirely unlike in canon or source material - because the story places the character in brand new and unfamiliar environments. The definition is not about "does this character act exactly like in canon", it's "does this character act in accordance with its established canon personality".There's also leeway in that in extreme circumstances, or under heavy shock etc., people can genuinely act "out of character", or their entire personality can change due to some extreme emotional event (e.g. grief, distress, stress). This happens IRL too. For one-off events of shock this basically makes them OOC but in a "realistic" way, i.e. not as a flaw, as long as the departure is indeed believable (e.g. Twilight Sparkle committing a serial murder spree due to the mental anguish of failing an entrance exam would still be severely OOC in a bad way). If you're writing about some event that so far undermines a character that it affects their personality then IC/OOC stops applying from an in-universe perspective, but IMO can still be used in discussion in the sense of "I wanted to read fanfiction about Twilight Sparkle, not about the author's 'Twilight Sparkle except striken by grief and therefore basically an OC now' custom character".Mind control is very directly in the latter category except even lazier in that the character's personality is changed not by some believable traumatic event but basically just by author fiat. It's OOC, not in the sense of being "you should have written it better!", but in the sense of "you set up a story that would make the personalities intentionally unrecognisable", which is fair enough, and also fairly can push away people who are interested in reading about the actual named characters and thus expecting IC writing.I don't think any of this is arbitrary.
>>43226120>Twilight Sparkle committing a serial murder spree due to the mental anguish of failing an entrance exam would still be severely OOCThat's what she wants you to believe.
>>43226131Any fics with this premise?
>>43226143I guess secret life of rarity, kinda? I don't think exams are involved but otherwise it's kinda that
