This is the alternative MLP fan site general thread. Discussion, development suggestions, and criticisms are all welcome here.Column-- Edition>why alternate boorus?The absolute state of Derpibooru has led to the development of various alternatives. Many altbooru staff members are present ITT, reading comments and answering questions.>why alternate text sites?Pastebin persistently purges pony pastes. Fimfiction does not allow stories in greentext format. FiMFetch censors foalcon and other material deemed "unacceptable" by its owner, a libelous hypocrite: ponepaste.org/9926>general purpose boorusponerpics.org by Pupper and Lotus [!!VL3e2tgvNo5]twibooru.org by Twifag and Filly (formerly Floorb) [!!mdpTjuXo6BG]>specialized boorusbooru.foalcon.com by Pathos (lolisho)lyrabooru.org (hot glue)>(green)text and other fanfictionponepaste.org by Aftercase [!!KXV0q+Lg38e], managed by Filly>dedicated archivesa0346f102085fe9f.github.io/IAS2foalfetch.net by Fillyhorsewords.orgiwiftp.yerf.org by Romemulpwiki.batpony.partymlpcon.info>video sharingpony.tube by Twifag and Filly>file sharingpone.rs>microbloggingpone.social by Twifag and Filly>link shorteningderpy.meOn past /fast/s:>Ponerpics duplicate queue has several hundred reports awaiting an update to Derpi metadata handling>Twibooru importer disrupted by Derpi API change; fix implemented and missed images retrieved (and again)>SunBooru resumes development>Twibooru imports large batch of images from Manebooru>PonePaste UI improvements go live>Pony.Tube future expansion under consideration>Ponerpics disables anonymous tag editing to curb spam; results promising>derpy.me back online after purging spam links>IWIFTP relaunches Tor hidden service: 647jnod5oc7bzj3tpjq2qaaq6j73sa4h43whqeubkvkbvm52yecm72id.onion>Twibooru slows to a crawl due to a network routing issue; fix implemented overnight>IWIFTP launches i2p service: ow7qtlpe3u36qob4dgoo3opifaj335hbk6gxv43tfjjzhvky5zwa.b32.i2p>PonePaste domain expires; gets transferred to Floorb>PonyTube and Pone.Social receive updates courtesy of Floorb>Ponerpics prev/next image shortcuts fixed>New Twibooru scraper code published: github.com/Twibooru/nuboorumon>pone.rs ShareX functionality fixed>Twibooru SVG importer fixed, hopefully for the last time>Ponut.Space taken offline following CP spam>IWIFTP experiences server issues; potential for extended downtime>Quad9 DNS blocking FoalFetch once again>PonePaste fixes out-of-memory bug affecting database dumps+Panicked purge marks The End of Ponybooru: >>43200111 >>43227018Previous thread: >>43124368
Reposting because new thread.>>43228102 (You)>>43228141>>43228339 (You)I switched cables back to the previous one. Cleaned the ends as best I could. I didn't clean the inside of the ports as the connectors are way back there. I tried re-reading the same tape from the other day and got I/O errors again, at exactly the same place. That would be very suspicious if the problem were the card, the cable, or even the drive. If it's failing at the same place it would suggest something's up with the tape, though the drive does not report any errors with it.Although perhaps, if there was an issue with the card or cable during writing at this spot? But then would Linux report it as an I/O error? It seems odd. I think I will have to write a second tape and see if the same thing happens. Maybe I'll also try writing the files that it's failing at to another tape and seeing if somehow the contents have something to do with it. But I really doubt that.
>>43229456It's going to take a while to get used to the new image.
I used Ponybooru as an alt for years and barely noticed much beyond the site functioning less and getting weirder.With is demise and essentially 'Nigel Farage' reveal of being the same as the other shitheaps, where shall I go?Who's the freedom of speech and art bastion who will stand by anything within accepted legal limits, including the fantasy foal stuff etc out of pure principle?
>>43229598>accepted legal limits>including the fantasy foal stuff etc out of pure principle?Ponybooru, after all only something that's illegal got deleted
>>43229477Another question I have: What's the deal with fiber channel and SFP? I'm trying to find a new cable to buy and I'm having a hard time trying to figure out what the compatibility is between fiber channel and SFP. The cables I bought previously were explicitly advertised as for fiber channel. But will any SFP direct attach cable work? What rating do they need to have? Most are sold with base 10 speed ratings, whereas my fiber channel card is indicated to have a 16gb connection?
>>43229598Currently, you have two choices: Twibooru for a pure pony archive, Ponerpics for a more community-focused experience with less strict rules about pony-relatedness.
>>43229477>I've got all these tapes to write>Now is the time that I start getting errors
>>43230168Oh boy. This will take a while, I reckon.
>>43229598That's gonna be Ponerpics. Twib is a mess of aislop and fucked up tags.
>>43230364doesn't poner import all the ai stuff from twi?
>>43230610Yes. With the exception of mp4s.
>>43229860>>43229477You may want to move your discussion to /pts/, it's veering into way off-topic territory. This thread is not meant for tech support.
>>43230610Yeah, that guy is just another mindbroken retard.
I need to get back to backing up all Catbox files linked on /mlp/... but it's getting more difficult now that Catbox is constantly shitting the bed. Unfortunately, I don't have the disk space required to back it all up right now, I'd need to hook up a different system first. And also first update my vibe coded (because I'm a codelet) script to account for every transmission error that now undoubtedly will pop up.Anyone else already have an operation to back up Catbox links from /mlp/ underway before it will inevitably shut down?
It's not joever yet
>>43229860That's a whole fucking can of worms. I've only used up to 8Gbps fiber channel. You can use a regular 10Gbps Ethernet SFP in place of an 8Gbps fiber channel SFP, at both ends. I do not know what the situation is for 16Gbps. However, if I recall correctly, SFP DAC cables are not "smart" in any way. They literally just directly connect some pins of the SFPs at both ends. I doubt the cable is your issue in this case though.
Why is Twibooru's featured image an image with the text "God loves you"? Aren't the owners of that site fags? That message does not apply to you.
>>43231335Anon... literally the entire point of Twibooru is "letting people post things the owners don't agree with"
>>43231080I suspected it was a simple cable, but even there you can have different specs like cat 5, 6, etc for ethernet.I doubt it's the cable as well, I think it's the card. I've had similar issues with SAS HBAs in the past. I've purchased a new one and it's on the way, but I do find it suspicious that it failed in the same place twice. So while that's on the way I'm going to write another tape see if that exhibits the same problems. Another thing I've read is that I should check dmesg for more info. I'll do that when/if I get another failure.>>43230739There wasn't much else going on in the thread when I started posting about it. I probably won't have too many further posts. I'm hoping I'm near the end of setting this up.
>>43230614Poner imports MP4s as WebMs because Philomena is quarter-baked garbage that still hasn't added MP4 support. Even fucking Yotsuba managed that.
>>43231840MP4s have legal problems.
>>43231848>what is the DMCAthis is why you don't rely on spineless cucks for your software.
>>43231335this is to rechristianize the booru and damn that's working!
Up.
>>43231514Well, I have written another tape and read the whole thing back without any error. This really makes me think that it was the other tape that was the problem. However, this does raise it's own questions. The tape drive did not report a tape error. From what I read, the tape head is supposed to verify data as it writes it. If the other tape was written without any reported error but there was error in reading it back, that really brings that verification into question. I think at this point I can start actually making my tapes I should just read them back first before calling them done. At least for the first few, as this brings the time to complete a tape to 14 hours from 7.Other notes: I do wonder if something went wrong with the other tape. When it arrived, the case was cracked even though the shrink wrap was still intact (I ordered a few singles from a couple different sellers before I made a big order from one of them). So perhaps it sustained some internal damage in shipping, even though it seemed to start out fine. That particular tape does sound nosier now and it fails at the same place every time. I will also note that this other tape I just wrote is a metal particle chemistry rather than the BaFe all the others are. So hopefully the drive doesn't have an aversion to BaFe. But I don't think so.I'm also happy to report that drive temps are still looking good. I had the fan down at a level it was still decent to be in the room with (about 2/3 speed) and temperature is still good even after 14 hours of continuous operation. 39C.Probably not too many more posts on this unless something else happens or more problems arise. I plan on making a printout of all my scripts to store on paper with the tapes (I'm only using tools that come included with most Linux distros). I may post that when I get it together.
>>43232302Shrug, whatever you say. I just think open formats should be encouraged at all times, no matter if you're personally affected by the law enforcing them or not.
>>43232792
>>43233236Encouraged, yes. Enforced, no. Transcoding video files is particularly troublesome because their codecs are almost universally lossy, which leads to quality degradation and increased file sizes even in an optimally designed system which Philomena most definitely isn't.
>>43234420Astonishingly ignorant.
>>43234868I don't claim to know my way around the pseudolegal restrictions that started this argument, but the fact remains that an archive should not discard the original encoding for an open format conversion. Just look at how Archive.org handles it: original formats available alongside a variety of reencodes for those who require them.
Was going through the last couple of threads and came across >>43088250>Ponybooru updates:>>we ran out of space>>updated the vm and made more space available>>running nominal however I will need to take it down for a full reindex later.If Zizzy was really planning the purge long before his furry friend got v& why didn't he nuke lolisho then to both free up disk space and get rid of that "legal risk"?
>>43235185>implying any of it was actually deleted and not just hidden from public view
>>43235185vm space = database storage and root directory (logs etc)storage space = image storage spacetl:dr the volumes are separate and independent of each other.
>>43235745And what about falsifying the edit dates on the rules page?
>>43235748The page clearly says whatever odd days ago, I'm still confused what ya'll are seeing there. I had edited the page twice cause I made a mistake and I didn't like it lol. There's two pages with the same edit date till you get to the last edit like a year or whatever ago.
>>43235861When exactly did you make those edits to the policy page, and how?
>>43236318>still trying to reason with someone who's merely pretending to not understand
>>43236318I clicked the edit button.I carefully reviewed what you were talking about, there's two edits for 18 days ago, and then one 2 years ago and then it continues.So how that works is that it shows the current revision (18 days ago) the previous revision before (18 days ago) and then the one that came before (2 years ago) It shows the (2 years ago) one with the *edits*, stuff in red was removed , stuff in green was added. You can confirm this behavior by philomena by scrolling down to see the discrepency between 2 years ago and 4 years ago revisions. Can't explain it, just default behavior. The one 2 years ago revision is blank with no green or red, I think someone probably pressed edit, then save, without changing anything but not sure there.
>>43236572So the records weren't tampered with, they were simply presented in an incredibly misleading way that, alongside the rest of the purge, wasn't elaborated on until you were finished making your excuses for befriending a kiddy diddler. Forgive us if that doesn't set our minds at ease.
>>43236608I can't control what you think, that's fine you're your own person. At least you know now that I wasn't acting in bad faith.
>>43236664Do I?
Both of you are flaggots. I trust neither of you. Fuck off.
>>43236701An enticing offer, but duty calls.
>>43231840Kekked at that image. Who made this?
>>43237057Looks like Plunger's style.
>>43237057It is as >>43237174 says: https://x.com/plunger_notreal/status/1879592992434164001
>>43237174>>43237474Thanks.
>>43234084
>>43238477
Slow phase again.
>>43239276no news is good news sometimes.
>>43239492That's true.
>>43238860
>>43220529>I was checking "imported from x" on several boorus at one point and did a double take when I accidentally checked the same tag on Twibooru and the description was "Wait, what?"Speaking of
>>43239903
>>43240950>Twi: Posts>Pon: ImagesWhy is philomena videophobic?
>>43241196What?
>>43241196It could be argued that a moving image is still an image, and that Twibooru's terminology is yet broader to accommodate text posts and the like.
bumping
>>43242193
Bump
>>43236608>uoooooh you knew a person before some bad thing was discovered about himWhat a stupid thing to hyperfixate on, and conveniently an excuse to distract from the actual issue at hand.
>>43243972Kindly refer to the previous thread for the full breakdown of Ponybooru's...well, breakdown. We've no need to rely on guilt by association when there is such a mass of baldfaced deceit and incompetence in the publc record.
Suggestion: add "This is not the Ponybooru drama general" to the next thread.
>>43244205Anon, this thread is always "* drama general". The whole thread (and alt sites) were born due to drama.
>>43244028What about you quit being a spergy retard and mind your business instead of trying to push ponybooru about what happened and the decision to save the site the staff had to make.What again would you have done in that situation.
>>43244381>What again would you have done in that situationSeriously, what the fuck is wrong with you? He has an unalienable right to talk shit and ignore the consequences. It's his God-given right as a citizen of a free country to argue his point and ignore yours. That's the purpose of having an open society. Screaming in incoherent rage is an expression of pure democracy, and any government that forbids it is de facto a dictatorship. When you demand an answer to your questions, you're trampling on his rights and revealing yourself to be the fascist you secretly know you are. He doesn't have to answer you or even acknowledge you. That's what our forefathers died for. Shame on you for not respecting their sacrifice.
Lol at the PB damage control squad.
Has anyone run the numbers of how many images Derpi and Derpi 2 (forma de Zizzy) have that altboorus haven't archived yet?
Why is this guy running an altbooru
>>43246546Unless I'm mixing names, only one person in that image runs an altbooru and the reason is literally stated by him in the very same image.
>>43246546>It's a scraped archiveI still find it amusing how stupid these people are.
>>43246546All literal whos to me except for Floorb. Enjoy seeing them seethe though.
>>43246546>RainbooruMust be pre-Twibooru, it was my fav of all 4s>Check Derpibooru>Floorb still moots with Derpi staff>TSP is more retarded than ever
>>43246546Rainbooru was a passion project that ran out of passion. It was sad to see it go, especially with how obvious its faults were, and how reluctant the owner was to accept any help.
>>43246849Did it ever get known why he got AWOL?
On the topic of alternative booru software, is Sunbooru ever going to get finished? What's the ETA, 2030?
>>43247446It's being sunsetted.
>>43247446Eventually. There is no ETA. I do hope to resume work on it sometime this year.
>>43247794>There is no ETA.And about how far are you done percentage wise?
>>43247900If I had to make a guess, I'd say maybe 40% done? There's a lot of big stuff done and the groundwork laid down for more. For example, even though I haven't completed the ban/moderation system I have kept it in mind keeping track of uploaders and posters elsewhere in the code. I think I did break a few search options in the last bout of work I did on the search engine, so that needs to be investigated. The performance was greatly improved, work just stopped before I got everything completely buttoned up. And I did have more ideas for optimization. I've kept a to do list of ideas I've had for the software. There's a lot of user/admin options that need to be implemented. Administration tools are very sparse. If you wanted to, you could run a local booru with the code as is. Votes, faves, comments, and even the forum are functional (so feel free to give it a try, it requires very minimal setup). I did have some further ideas and innovations, but I need to get the main body of work complete before starting on more experimental stuff.
>>43247784Damn it, Carlos.
When the pastes were archived, were the other chans scraped for paste IDs?Also I'm trying to process the 2016 archive and what a fucking mess it is. Holy fucking shit. Even if we hate the guy, hats off to the ponebin guy for making something useful out of it. Character encoding is all over the place. Untitled pastes received the first 80 character from the paste as a title. If it is untitled and non text type it gets the type in the title because reasons... if the same author posted multiple pastes with the same name (or untitled and the first line matches) then only one is kept at random. Because the filename is the title there can be only one with the same title. I might just contact him to get the code he used to process it.Also, do someone know some way to determine if a paste is pony related or not? There is the simple way of having a word list and if any is there it is pony related. But if it is just a link collection to other pastes the one has to traverse the chain and check if any is pony related or not. Or maybe should I feed it to an LLM? Due to the text being many GB it would cost a fortune. Maybe a smaller local model could be enough (I only have 4GB of vram in a 6 year old laptop gpu.)
>>43248270I'm not too worried about pastes missing because in the end, the data is still all there on Desuarchive. If you are missing a paste, you can just search the original pastebin URL and generally find the posts that got binned right above it.
>>43247947Thanks.
Page 9 bumo.
>>43247947Seems like you still have some work ahead of you. Thanks for the progress update.
>>43247947Best of luck, my fellow Katechad.
Is there a kemono alternative or a dump of it?
>>43249878Not as far as I know.
>>43249878Not really, guess you could scrape relevant content with their API assuming it hasn't been turned off again for no good reason.
>>43250348The site is in a zombie state. Only the preview loads, the full res attachments or videos do not.
>>43250406Backend ate shit again. Classy. And they killed their chan too, so there's no contacting them.
>>43250465At least we still have U-18Ďąhan's pony board for the odd leak. Though them dropping the "pawstika" logo in 2024 could be read as a canary in the coal mine.
>>43250465Again? It's been dead (imports) since October or something. At least the full versions loaded until like March.
>cytube has learned of pone.rsWell, pone.rs guy, I hope you have plenty of storage, bandwidth, funding, and anti-cp features, because I know they've already put up the entirety of Ghost Adventures on your service, and you just know it won't belong until sharty goes after it like they have pomf and catbox.
>>43250936>pony website has found pony websiteoh no?
>>43250946Act dismissive now, but just wait until the dude that had like 50 separate channels full of hundreds of videos on pomf learns of it and spins all those terabytes of data back up.
>>43250964To take your complaint more seriously I wouldn't be too worried. It's not like poners has been contained to just /mlp/ and when it was first announced catbox was dying. I have to imagine that they've atleast put some thought into this problem.
>>43250642There are imports up to February of this year, and even some in March on particularly popular accounts. But yeah, the backend's been spotty since March.
>>43249878Isn't that some furry site? Why should it be backupped?
>>43251134It's a general subscription content archive, including a great many paywalled pones. Many have made their ways to the boorus already, but there's always stragglers.
>>43251167Tearing down paywalls is always good but I doubt there's a whole lot of real pony content on there. No money to be made with that anymore.
>>43251167>Many have made their ways to the boorus alreadyExcept when you look into the paywalled discord channels general chats. There are a ton of pony sculpture photos which could not be seen anywhere else. Fucking closed communities.
>>43251174>I doubt there's a whole lot of real pony content on thereThere is a lot. Eg TwistedScarlett alt versions, Clopician full res/fps, Hooves-art, Yakovlev-vad monthly, Alcor's full res/exclusives, etc.
>>43251187Oh, so it's all just shit.
>>43251187Literally none of those are good.
>>43251201>>43251206Ah usual "everything is shit" responses. You know what's good? Grab a concrete block and jump into the ocean to drown.
>>43250936I'm aware of this, storage usage has gone up a lot ever since pomf died. Not much of a problem at the moment though.>>43250964Unfortunately this has already happened.
>>43251176Kemono does have Dicksword support, too, but as with everything, it suffers from lack of maintenance: https://kemono.cr/discord/server/1080724579934285855
>>43251291Dicksword imports is what killed that site btw. It was actually functional and didn't effectively nuke its own warrant canaries until after discord imports took over and ruined the site.
>>43251226No, the things you listed are just all objectively shit. No wonder you care so much about that site, you have furfag tastes.
>>43251479it's almost like gating art behind a grooming platform was a stupid fucking idea in the first place.
>>43251479Brainlet here. Can you explain what you mean with what you just said please? Because I have no idea what you mean.
>>43251580>he doesn't know>>43251497>groomschizoThat had nothing to do with the situation, retard. The site's import system was constantly broken and millions of irrelevant garbage posts and channels from discord were flooding the latest update feeds while people were waiting for months to get patreon updates working.
>>43251593I would be shocked if there was no pizza accidentally imported because of that.
I have just pushed a couple small changes to PonePaste. Mainly, I made recovery codes a bit friendlier, and I slightly changed around the CSS for display on pastes, making the info bar with the word count, fave count, etc one line instead of two, and display better on mobile. If you're a janny and reading this, I also improved a couple things on the admin dashboard you probably don't use anyways and won't notice.Let me know if I fucked anything up.
>>43252532Update: if you're a janny and reading this, I might have accidentally locked you out of your account. Looking into it.
>>43252533Update to the update: Fixed.
>>43252532Thanks for the heads up.
>tries to upload a video on ponerpics>Image can't be blank>Image size can't be blank>Image width can't be blank>Image height can't be blank>Image mime type (video/mp4) is invalid>Image duration can't be blank>Image orig sha512 hash can't be blankc'mon pupper...anyone had this issue before and fixed it? i see nothing wrong with the video itself and can upload elsewhere
>>43252815>>Image mime type (video/mp4) is invalidSee >>43231840. For a self-styled "successor" to Booru on Rails, Philomena is dreadfully feature-incomplete.
>>43252824thank you. i should have taken a proper look at the threadstrangely, av1 doesn't work but vp9 is fine. even though it's a primarily import platform, i'd like to see pupper at least detecting the codec/container and adjust the warnings accordingly if not fixing it
>>43252815>>Image width can't be blank>>Image height can't be blankOh yeah I got that weird error ages ago too on some JPEGs. Ran them through jpegtran and the problem was fixed.I wonder how many uploads Ponerpics is missing due to these bugs that most normalfags won't know how to fix and just give up on uploading at all.
>>43253229I wish Ponerpics could somehow scan for missing images that failed to get scraped the first time around.
>>43253685I don't think anyone is really working on Ponerpics anymore. Just the mods deleting cbat spam and the like.
ponepaste is kinda slow?Also, why does it respond to http? Why not https only?
>>43248270Now I'm trying to process 2016 sept dump. As usual its a clusterfuck. Now it contains files which I can't even decompress because the filenames are so fucked up even linux can't handle.And fun fact, the 2016 jan dump contains some pastes 4 times because if the title changed then it got a new filename... I guess whoever made that dump ran the ripper tool multiple times while using the same folder as the target.
>>43253695As long as the site is maintained, that's the most important thing.
>>43253962Not everyone has access to a computer that supports HTTPS! Additionally, I fully intend to make a version of the site in HTML4 at some point, so you can read horse greens on your vintage laptop and have the layout be usable.Also, site seems fast to me right now.
>>43254611>Not everyone has access to a computer that supports HTTPS!Really? I had no idea that this is an issue.
>>43254611Use a subdomain for supporting 30 year old stuff. Keep the main site as secure as possible.Also someone wanting to use vintage stuff will use a proxy to strip https.
>>43254705I have known people using my sites in countries with a government that blocks HTTPS but allows HTTP, even if temporarily. If I can do something in 10 seconds to make my site a little more accessible without impact to other users, I'm gonna do it.>>43254760>Use a subdomain for supporting 30 year old stuff.That's the plan.
>>43254767>a government that blocks HTTPS but allows HTTPOh, because of governmental retardation then. I didn't consider this.
Not just 4chan's captcha but ext4, ntfs, notepadqq, kate, cat basically anything shits itself. Fuck you from 10+ years in the future.
>>43254767>please leave that vulnerability open to satisfy my petty tyrant's wishesHow about no?
>>43253685that ought to be the role of anons posting there.>>43230750>Need to save Disk Space>We should automatically convert big JPEG and PNGs to AVIF and WEBP -TSP
>>43251580basically artists moved posting their content from straight to patreon/substar/whatever to discord servers that you can only access if you support them on said sites, so it effectively doesn't work anymore
nhnb server mod man person admin anonpls
>>43256695Our hosting provider is currently undergoing a bit of extended maintenance right now. It was scheduled, I just missed the memo so it caught me by surprise as well. I haven't seen an ETA but from the sounds it it they should be back in the next day or two. The site may spontaneously start working again when they are done, or if we get a new address there may be a small additional delay until I update the domain. Soon (tm).
>>43256683>TSPDid he really?
>>43256683>that ought to be the role of anons posting there.No. Do your job properly or don't bother hosting a booru at all.
>43256988Perfectionschizo is back at it again I seeThank you to all the site operators who do anything at all, even if it's not perfect, because it's way better than nothing.
>>43256713ah gotcya, thanks for the update, was just hoping you hadn't died or took down the site. the waiting game it is then
>>43257148Meh, it's fine as long as you don't expect me to do work for you that can easily be automated.
Is there any archive or collection for music, specifically clop?
>>43255943Do you know what makes you start over? Noticing that pastebin pro users be able to rename themselves. FUCK.
>>43258492
>>43258054Another day, another issue. The chances of ID collision are near zero, but not zero... Possibly one paste got deleted (but archived before) and another new one somehow got its ID. Or the archiver massively fucked up. My bet is on the archiver fucking up.
>>43259081>Possibly one paste got deleted (but archived before)So what happens now? Does the deleted paste get restored in some way?
>>43259084Both were worthless (not mlp related), I randomly deleted one (which were some kind of python code from 2012).Issue was one was posted as a guest and one as a logged in user. And I did not want to rewrite the DB again to handle pastes belonging to multiple users...
Bump.
>>43258040PonyTube gets PMVs uploaded to it on the reg, including NSFW ones.
>>43256713>>43257740We're back.
>>43260407wb ig
>>43259098I see.
>>43260407No host, no business, no longer.
mulpwiki.batpony.org will be sunset Q1 next year.
>>43263404>batponies getting sunsettedpottery. sad, though. why?
>>43263855You're not gonna believe this, but sites cost money to host. At a certain point the calculus goes "do I spend $10 this month on a website no one uses, or on lube for my new chance?"
>>43263855Because its read only, the content is mirrored everywhere else, and I do not feel like it provides that much use.If you need the content the it's here: https://iwiftp.yerf.org/Pony/Website%20archive/Fan-made/mulpwiki.org/Since this will also affect KeeKee you can also find that here: https://iwiftp.yerf.org/Pony/Website%20archive/Fan-made/translate.batpony.party/>>43263871It's free hosting since the main archive needs it anyway
>>43263871Aids is too good for you.
>>43263404Don't you mean https://mulpwiki.batpony.party ?
>>43263404>>43264090 (you)Btw most of the site is broken already. Categories, threads, images, stories, memes page comes back empty.
>>43259659
>>43263965Well, still sad, but at least the content remains.
>>43246849A couple factors contributed to rainbooru's abandonment. First and foremost was I lost the password to the database that powered the site. Without that, I didnt have the ability to push major updates. I never had time to rewrite the database from scratch. I was/am getting my phd and I just don't have the time. Besides that, the last two consistent users were some faggot who drinks piss and some kid with an anti-natalist grudge against his dad. I ate $30 a month in server costs and $200 every year renewing the domain. Those two guys just weren't with it
>>43265371can you at least publish the source code here for archival purposes?
>>43265371>some kid with an anti-natalist grudge against his dadWho, Cbat?
>ponytube is running low on space>look at storage prices
>>43265371I appreciate you filling in the blanks. I second >>43265438's request, but more than anything, I want to wish you well on your future ventures, PhD and pegasine alike.
>>43265786Just delete all g5 shit
>>43265786Nuke everything that includes eqg. Nothing of value was lost. You can let an AI identify it and auto-delete anything that as much as touches eqg.
>>43264090Minor details>>43264097Its a direct import of the original dump, there have been no attempts to fix any internal links
>10
>>43264546
>>43265786I heard it's probably getting even worse in this regard.
>>43265786TPA / Z+ can help you out, what do you need in TB?
>>43267330AI was a mistake.
>>43267433In this thread you've talked about ending Z+ and discontinuing new work on TPA
>>43246546what do you expect from low iq retards who live in there parent basement.
>>43267888Trips of truth aside, what's another lie to a walking, undeservedly breathing PR disaster?
>>43246546wtf is "rageforking"?
>>43268043A term meant to delegitimize software forks that are created in the wake of controversy (a la Sneedacity, XLibre), being metaphorically used here to imply altboorus are somehow wronging Derpi by providing alternative venues where people may propogate if they wish.
>>43268072If anything Derpifags should be happy for the altboorus because they lessen the load on their servers.
>>43267888Retards need not apply, I guess.
>>43268139Why make it personal? Taking umbrage with someone calmly pointing out an example of your utter inability to keep a story straight won't mend your image any, even if repair was somehow still possible.
>>43268139>hey I can help with storage>>but you just said you were going to end your projects you specifically mentioned?>FUCK YOU RETARD DIE
>>43268183I said retards don't need to apply for storage. Clearly retards can't read so they don't need any. Z+ shut down public hosting due to rising hardware costs. We still have 200TB of storage space privately owned not rented or leased. Eventually the drives will give up but no problem helping out fellow pony sites.>>43268160Your behavior is some of the worst I've seen on this board since cbat became a thing, pipe down. I don't see you building a datacenter to host ponies.It really is people like (you) who make hosting literally anything of value to /mlp/ ass, all of this "We will leave ponybooru wah wah wah" crying bullshit and I've not lost a single actual donor, you guys provided nothing. All you do is take. Enjoy your free shit (it's free) or shut the fuck up.
>>43268191Damn, he really got to you, didn't he?
>>43268191>call twifag a retard because you say one thing and mean another thing>lash out at whoever flutterflag is>continue sperging outReally earning that old nickname, eh?
>>43268191And you couldn't have led with that instead of calling Twiflag a retard? This isn't about decorum. You were asked a perfectly reasonable question, and instead of answering it, you lashed out and only explained yourself afterward. That's even worse than your usual silence, because it means you did have an answer and chose not to give it.You're not an asset to this community. You are a liability.
>>43267433Sure, if you want to deal with an autistic spineless retard throwing a hiss fit every 2 days and being a moralpest
>>43268160>>43267888>>43268160>>43268183What are you guys talking about. Those are two different situations.
>twitter screencapZIDF is not sending their best
>>43268217Mate. It's ass. There's no pleasing these people, who want me dead. They clearly don't care about jack and shit or they'd actively work towards building up rather than focusing on "how can I tear this person down".The good thing is, the entirety of this thread disappears the moment I click away, I don't have to listen to these jackasses who don't help, I can just work on things by myself. The draw back is I have no further help, I'm alone, I work two jobs, and I just don't have time to keep working on software when it's a full time job keeping the hardware running.The big problem is that I can't push meaningful updates to TPA or re-enable our video download system because I have no help. Folks like Flutters or Twi here are no help in that regard, and only serve to further damage the archive's ability to perform basic functions by means of just being unhelpful talking heads.I can just offer storage because I can just throw a couple of them in a box and send them on their way. They're not doing me any good at the moment and another pony site gets helped. But, no, it's very clear the intended community for pony tube (/mlp/) genuinely just hates good things... or is it just a few people and all of the quiet lurkers just appreciate that such things exist and stay quiet? I'll probably never know, not that it mattered. Thanks for giving a shit anon.
>>43268285are you really so self pitying you just mistook mockery for sympathy?
>>43268290I'll take what I want, you're not the boss of me. ^:)
>>43268285>more dramaYou really are a furfag.
>>43268304>He thinks this is dramaMan, you really are a furry.
>>43268308>«man» wearing dramashaped fursuit: ceci n'est pas une drame
>>43268313It would be one thing if it was a pony lifesize, but it is literally some furfag thing.
>>43268285>hey I can help you with ponytube>>didn't you just say you were shutting down the pro->FOOLS LIKE FLUTTERS OR TWI HEREWhy are you so adamant about shitting on people simply asking questions or owning/working on "competing" services?>unhelpful talking headsWhat a bizarre way to disparage someone who runs multiple websites and multiple conventions.
>>43268386I'm assuming the twiflag has nothing to do with pony tube, considering if it was corp he'd just DM me on discord which is far faster and actually gets things done. I don't offer a competing service to ponytube anyway, so that point is also moot.If the twiflag was corp, then that's on them for not reading the previous threads or paying attention to the half dozen places I've said Z+ is temporarily closing due to hardware costs. TPA remains online I just can't actively update it due to time as previously stated in archived threads.
>>43268393Have you considered that people might have reasons to avoid contact with you beyond being "retards"?
>>43268405No, not really. I help everyone I can and do what I can to fix things that need fixing. I'm passionate about pony projects and am still keeping everything online. I'm basically left to assume people avoiding contact are people whom I would likely not enjoy said contact with. That's great, because that means they're self filtering and saves me a lot of time that I otherwise don't have. Speaking of, I'm outies see you guys in a while.
>>43268191You did, in fact, lose a single donor just this month:https://web.archive.org/web/20260505030352/https://subscribestar.adult/theponyarchivehttps://web.archive.org/web/20260527225407/https://subscribestar.adult/theponyarchive
>>43268518>can't pass the age gate on wayback's snapshots>have to add it to my uBO filtersSS sux.
>>43268191>building a datacenter to host poniesYES. FUCK AI DATACENTERS. NOBODY WANTS AI DATACENTERS. BUT COMMUNITIES WILL WELCOME PONY DATACENTERS WITH OPEN ARMS.
>>43268778Don't hold your breath.https://lowendspirit.com/discussion/10467/z-plus-deadpool
>ponybooru password resets & account creation completely brokenThis feels like performance art at this point.
floorbtwibooru importer stuckagain
What is going on in this thread? I genuinely lost track of the happenings.
>>43268191>>43268285>>43268393>>43268415Please fuck off back to BlueSky instead of being a little bitch. Acting like a whiny retard because of your multiple untreated mental illness' doesn't give you any brownie points and not a single soul is interested about you faux victim playing and deliberate pretend to not understand things. Additional to this your inability to run a simple website, being any amount of tech illiterate, and not fucking up the service you try to provide would be a adequate start. This is without bringing up your proven financial incompetence, even with something as cheap as this.>>43268518Since Zizzy is eBegging again, here are some addresses anyone can donate if they feel like. The money goes exactly into Pony an no-where else:Bitcoin (BTC): 19H2wg4oDQrWADe1m7jxLDGG7uC5ZuUncvEthereum: (ETH):0x835C8Be74C3dad59BB61075545946D70E3549656Monero (XMR): 42MLsnHGqS5ihHZ5WMgNU7HRcefxqK935Aex6cPNVtjvDrYGYykbLZ3EidZYkqHTePaJ4CtJv9HQKUDW4LASmB788By6UqJVerifiable if you scroll down the greeter at https://iwiftp.yerf.org. I don't tend do put this in anyone's face.
>>43229456>>Ponerpics duplicate queue has several hundred reports awaiting an update to Derpi metadata handlingsomehow i missed this before. i guess it's useless to report duplicates there as of now? the only staff member i saw active was Gold Meddle, and even though he's fine i hope i'm wrong
>>43269681Alt-Site discussion with nominal Friendliness.>>43269695This only affects images uploaded by the Derpi Imported account, whose last import was nearly three years ago. These uploads include Derpi metadata, and the mechanism for transferring this metadata across uploads is not yet in place. While this does impede [Derpi Imported] -> [other uploader] merging, [other uploader] -> [Derpi Imported] still functions as intended.With all that said, you're most welcome to keep making duplicate reports on Derpi Imported uploads: they will be acted on as soon as the software allows.>i hope i'm wrongIn the kindest way possible, you are. For all my visible engagement, my fellow staff members have not simply vanished into the aether. As with any healthy volunteer project, they contribute in their own pace, on their own terms.
>>43269695Gold Meddle is the only active staff. I've been regularly attempting to make contact with the others over the past 8 months but I've not heard back from anyone else. I would have thought maybe after Lotus's April Fools day appearance he would have checked his messages, but no. It just seems so strange to me. Last I talked to them 8 months ago everything seemed fine. They had future plans for PonerPics as well. But since then it's been complete radio silence from them. The dates they said they said they had planned for development came and went without action. I was mainly just worried if something happened. Gold Meddle says they've just been "busy".
>>43269809With "busy" being code for "not interested any longer".
>>43269794i see, thankswhile i'm pretty sure the rest of the staff is dormant like the anon says, it looks like the things run fine
>>43269487>>43269487>>43269487>>43269487FLOORB!!!!!!
>>43269693Please don't recommend anyone go to the furry shithole known as bluesky. It's offensive.For what it's worth, TPA has always costed more than I got in donations, and I went into debt to keep TPA up.As far as tech illiterate, it's been up for 12 years I think that speaks for itself.As far as cheap, I don't cheap out on what's important to me in life, so we own everything, nothing's rented, and we own the data. We have disaster recovery in place, tape backup etc. I've slowly been building an entire backup of iwiftp as well, so that you too have a disaster recovery option. Your kofi has been broke for a while, I tried to give you money when I got out of debt officially in Feb. if you fix it, I got 100 earmarked for you.>>43269131this has been more of a pain to debug than I want to admit.
>>43270132>"please don't recommend this furfag place">said the person who bid on a literal lifesize of a famous furry characterWhat is this cognitive dissonance?
>>43270147My man, I bid on it cause Loona knows ball. I'm friends with the plush artist and they hate their own work and I told them if they listed it they'd get at least x amount for it. So I bid to show them not all hope is lost. Let a man buy what he wants lmao.
>>43270157>supporting furfaggotryTouching. Did you support him when he was getting dogpiled for making an Aryanne? Did you do anything to prevent him from swearing off on making any more White Mares?
I miss when kemono still worked, and when clopero wasnt dead. Cause aint no way im paying actual money for pony porn.
>>43270157You artificially inflated the price, got it.
Oh shit if we're ebegging here's the pony.tube stuff (yes, we're running out if space and this is going to cost a lot to set up a second server)BTC: 1iWyNjj7hUuihsK42gRTyzggLhzcoMmrgEth: 0xFFF70993C6C260315ceb3A74CE202A97d356226FMonero: 897vZij8Hcj6FqLXAUgdaFAnsCheLk4fLQ5o9fKQAWsYADKvaEJ777MdCao2zsn8u7JirCUEdfb61UFXFn7E4scj2nF9py1Also there's a liberapay at https://liberapay.com/PonyTubeVerify links and addresses at https://pony.tube/about/instance/home
>>43270164>muh arytrannefitting someone autistic and mentally damaged enough to drag out a shitty april fools joke for NINE YEARS would be the first to play victim when nobody wants a swastika horse around.
>>43270556no need to take a white horse so seriously, anon
>>43270556She's cute.
>>43268285/mlp/ is just a dying board of old fart who can't move on of s2 and s1 of the show. This place is dying and they know it they just misarable people living in a echo chamber.
>>43270157Qt pony must be retarded why would you make something you hate.
>>43271133>who can't move on of s2 and s1 of the showNot our fault that the early seasons are the gold standard.
>>43271133found the dogfucker
>>43269895Still out?
>>43271816And proud.
>>43272103Meh.
Late night bump.
>>43268191You should just sell the site to the next bidder and get a better job is not worth throwing your money away for this losers.
>>43274035I completely agree, his site is not worth it.
>>43274045They should sell it to a furry to make /mlp/ mad.
>>43274053All it would do is confirm our suspicions. So go ahead.
>>43274057You deserve worse like the burning of the entire mlp archive that it can never be recover.
>furnigger tantruming in pony archive thread that he's not allowed to shit it up permanentlylol, lmao even
>>43274067Are you paying him if not shut up and do it yourself you lazy fag.
I don't know what Punjabi enterprise Davis hired you from, but you should know that /mlp/ has a bump limit of 500 posts instead of the standard 300, so "spam this thread until it archives" might be more work than you were paid for.
Hey Floorb,some people over in the spanking thread found out that a specific paste on ponepaste has become inaccessible? It always returns a 502 gateway error which I find strange because the rest of the site seems to work fine. The paste itself can also still be found in the normal search and is listed as a public link. So it's not a problem with the paste being deleted or privated.Paste in question: https://ponepaste.org/6509That paste is the central "story archive" for that thread. It's basically just a big list of ponepaste links.After some experimentation I also found a second paste that is affected. Like the first one its a "story list" paste that itself links to a whole bunch of different pastes. Not sure if that commonality is meaningful.Second affected paste: https://ponepaste.org/7575
>>43274384How odd. I'm not Floorb, so I've no clue why the gateway error happens, but both of these pastes are still accessible through /embed/, /download/ and /raw/:https://ponepaste.org/raw/6509https://ponepaste.org/raw/7575
>>43274434That is actually really helpful. No idea why I didn't try that. Thanks.
i am worried about pone.rswhy does the owner enabled only permanent uploads first? temporary uploads shouldn't have been the default option? does he have unlimited space? isn't that bad?
Threadly reminder that as a sysadmin it is your heavenly duty to rangeban the entire third world.
>>43274888trips don't lie. i'm not a sysadmin but from all i heard, most DDoS attacks are for some reason from southeastern asia shitholes like vietnam>>43274749it should be an option, yeah
>>43274384I am able to reproduce the issue in production but not my local copy of the site. Recreating the paste doesn't fix the issue. I think the issue is with the Pastedown syntax. Give me a day or two, I'll see what I can figure out. Unbelievably busy right now.
>>43275154>>43274384Never mind I just fixed it. Sorry about that.
>>43275158Thanks Floorb, appreciate it.Out of casual interest, what exactly was the problem? 502 seems like a weird error to have on only specific pastes.
>>43275184NTA but it's probably a rendering issue caused by having so many links in one paste
Hey, i was wondering if the PP admin could make all mom, spank and sim stories public? And not unlisted? So the stories can be backed-up.I'll re-unlist my garbage/temp stuff afterwards.http://ponepaste.org/9540http://ponepaste.org/7575http://ponepaste.org/6509Like everything public please. "Ctrl+all" type deal.Thanks for any help!
>>43276235You should use the contact email address from the site, he can't verify who you are like this and you could be anyone not just the author.
>>43276289Ye, I thought about that afterwards, mby making a story on each archive would similarly work. I'm not home right now so i cant do anything about it atm. Soon tm.
Good morning bump.
>>43276330Here, I made two stories in the archives to prove that I manage themponepaste.org/11931ponepaste.org/11932Mom didn't need any. So just the two above. Ty again!
can't believe this thread is actually interesting as of late
>>43276867Your penis is cute and interesting!
>>43276870why, thank you!
Bumo.
>>43274888Don't worry I already banned United States from all my services.
>>43277199
>>43277255>>43277972Orrrr you could just ban retards individually instead of entire continents. Not even American and even though the majority of them I see online nowadays are insufferable (especially on here) I've had many good conversations with levelheaded Americans back in the day (though this was way before the smartphone-ification of the internet).
I dunno if it belongs in this thread or not; but I recently got a webring working for anons who have their own personal web / fansite to link up together; since I felt some anons may get some use out of it. https://mlp-ring.neocities.org/. If anyone wants to suggest changes to make the ring and site itself better / links that I should add to the link page, i'm all ears for recommendations.
>>43278173>>43278173>>43278173>>43278173Why the repetition?
>>43278286Placeholders used to test the indexing; until some sites can join in. I think having websites like the one made for /aj/ general (and hopefully websites made for other ones) plus personal sites would be cool.
Good AMERICAN morning bump.
>>43279073Works just as well.
What's the progress on the pools (picture sequences for comics) on boorus? From: Floorb? Lotus? Zizzy? ByteSlice?
TWIBOORU IS DEAD
>>43279319>Ray ID:sneedFound your problem.
>>43279319noooooooooooooooo
RIP Twibooru.
>WAH FUD TWIBOORU KILL FOREVERdid you niggers miss the last like, seven times this happenedit'll be fine, floorb just needs to stop being a lazy leafnigger
>>43279869Floorbs would never fix the site if no one would say anything
>>43229456Which one of you niggas downed Twibooru?Kinda defeats the point in altboorus.
>>43280098It was anon who did it.
>>43280098If anything, this demonstrates the value of pluralism and decentralization. With two largely redundant archives, one can seamlessly substitute the other during downtime.
Oh hey. Ponybooru is still up.
>>43280198Why wouldn't it be?
>>43279319
>>43279319Not just twibooru.Ponerpics's and Ponybooru's derpi importer is also dead.
>>43280419cuckflare gonna cuckflare.
>>43280419The Porter importer aborts when it detects issues with it's sources (or destinations) so as to avoid creating a mess.
It's the jews. Seriously.
>>43280618Let's hope that fix doesn't take too long.
The alt boorus will miss a few thousand images. Again.
>>43280750realistically is there any reason cloudflare hasn't been shot up yet
>>43280750ponerpics' importer remembers where it left off, and continues from that point. It's fine, there will be no holes.
>>43280901...assuming derpi doesn't nuke any uploads made during this cloudflare outage.
Serious question: why don't we have an /mlp/ alternative to Cloudflare?>uhhh it's too big to replaceThat's what they said about YouTube. And Derpi.
>>43281216The whole point of Cloudflare is that they have enough infrastructure to be able to absorb any amount of attack traffic.
An alternative to cloudflare? https://usips.org/products/tartarus/
>>43279319Infrastructure provider issue. I was told it would be fixed a lot sooner than it is. It's still not fixed. I'm looking for a backup for now.
>>43281006Most things uploaded nowadays are shit anyway, we won't miss anything important.
>>43281426There was quite a few things uploaded I would beat my meat to in the past day. But not if its on derpi.
>>43281316The main attractive part of Cloudflare, other than being free, is that they have dozens (hundreds?) of Tbps of network capacity across dozens of datacenters, which means that any volumetric attack traffic can simply be absorbed, due to the way the Internet works. No amount of application-level challenges will do anything if some kid can just pay $10/mo to flood the 1Gbps port on your server with 50Gbps of traffic for an entire month.
Twibooru is just fucking annoying. It is missing a fuckton of images. For example artist:heavymetalbronyyeah is missing the two most recent ones in a week..
>>43281955They'll just tell you to upload them yourself instead of fixing their own shit.
>>43282004I would, but that would imply that I browse derpi. If I browse derpi why would I use altboorus?
>>43282004>>43282010>>43281955>site is down for a couple days>imports are missing as a result>WAAAH WHERE ARE MY PICTURES FIX YOUR SHIIIIIT>no i don't browse derpi but I also intrinsically know there are missing pictures and also won't upload them from any other source
>>43282012How much are they paying you to suck their cock?
>>43282021why would I pay for sex when your mom's right there
>>43282231Because his mom demands payment up front
>>43281955I wish the scrapers had some kind of autocorrect feature to catch up on images that they have missed in a previous run.
>>43282811>>43280901
I wish anons had some kind of autocorrect feature to catch up on posts that they have missed in a previous read.
These sites are dead. Why do you guys promote them anyway?
>>43283171Benson, please.
>>43274085>>43283376What is this obsession with surnames?
Why is it called /fast/ when it's slow as shit?
>>43284437It's the other way round. He's obsessed with us.
>>43284045
I find it funny how OPs image gets shorter and shorter as the years pass.
>>43285132The list of alternative sites has grown in total, though.
>>43285132Everyone's lazy and useless. The only reason the recent version came about is because the motivation of spite was just enough to get someone to do a low effort job of cropping ponybooru out. Meanwhile, adding other sites to the image takes more effort than that.
>>43285132I find it depressing. Redundancy is important.
>>43285485Spite is a perfectly fine motivator though.
>>43285504I guess.
Twibooru, you have a string of posts that have failed to process starting approximately around ID 3783060.
>>43285485I'll have you know the image was meticulously edited to restore order: the previous /fast/ banner has a seemingly random light strip above the Twibooru ident, but with that wretched rectangle removed, the strip perfectly lines up and blends into the Derp of Ponerpics.>>43285972Thanks for the tip-off. It's 3783015 to 3783070, by my count, and I'm working on setting them all right.
>>43284788
>>43286913>no art of brainfuck pony getting brainfuckedSad!
>>43280901The importer knows where it is because it knows where it isn't
>>43276835>ponepaste.org/11931>ponepaste.org/11932Mods just deleted them and made no archive stories public :'(
>>43287232does aftercase even browse this thread?
>>43287739Ponepaste is run by Floorb now.
>>43287232Which specific links did you want to be made public?
>>43288585Almost again.
>>43288178I would like everything on these two accounts that I manage, made public:https://ponepaste.org/user/splishsplashhttps://ponepaste.org/user/grapenutSo they can be backedup.There are hundreds of stories and it would take ages for me to do it manually. Thanks for any help.
>>43289067Make a paste in both saying please make everything public. Because a random anon post here does not verifies that it is you.
>>43289558>Make a paste in bothYeah I already did, they deleted them.>ponepaste.org/11931>ponepaste.org/11932
>>43289572Ups, sry. I missed your earlier posts.Also thanks for keeping track of SiM stories.
>>43268841
>>43287059This is unexpectedly deep.
>>43290795Which pony would code in Elixir?
>>43291111
>>43291219That's strangely fitting.
>>43280901I sometimes get the feeling that there are still holes though.
>>43291969Don't worry, there are plenty of pictures of mare holes.
>>43291969Holes are from before importer was active
>>43292129Also ponerpics does not support mp4 (ponybooru) and txt (twibooru), so those can't be imported.
>>43292231Twibooru supports MP4s as well, see >>43231840
>>43292231>mp4 & txtI can't imagine there are many of those to begin with.
>>43293433A Twibooru search for "mime_type:video/mp4 || mime_type:text/plain" returns 1741 results (including https://twibooru.org/3326832 for some reason), so there's a significant amount. Preserving the original format is most vital when it comes to original-quality videos, where archival quality would suffer from reencoding.
So are Ponerpics and Twibooru currently playing hot potato with the internal server errors?
>>43293933Looks like it. Currently it's Twibooru doing the errors for me.
>>43293933>>43293988Doubledubs confirm we are in the "Twibooru troubles" part of the cycle. It's almost uncanny how Twi and Poner's outages alternate. Like they're taking turns being The Last Altbooru.
>>43294253>The Last AltbooruThat's a scary thought.Having only one point of failure is never a good thing.
>>43294253It's called failover.
>>43294253Both are working at the moment.
Sometimes I think about changing the art archives to jxl and av1 which would probably shave off 20TB of space
>>43295034Don't do that. Re-encoding is quality loss.
>>43295034Don't do that. If you're really desperate to save space, consider lossless optimization:https://css-ig.net/benchmark/png-losslessMy personal pick is ECT, but feel free to shop around and see what works for you.
>>43295047>>43295126Jxl is loseless
>>43295198No it is not. It does support lossless, but it also supports lossy. And its not a widespread format.
>>43295206It does support lossless. Every major operating system supports jxl.
>>43295126Oh, wow. I use zopflipng but I've never heard of most of these others. Thanks, anon!
>>43295232"OS-level support" is not the sole relevant metric in this debate, because even if a certain set of preinstalled programs supports a format, there's no guarantee of compatibility with other software or platforms.Chromium and Firefox-based browsers only have experimental JPEG XL support, which must be manually enabled. 4chan does not support it. And, of course, Booru on Rails and its derivatives haven't even gotten to WebP yet.I'm not saying JXL has no benefits--the JPEG transcoding is genuinely great, and its lossless performance similarly outshines PNG--but those benefits aren't worth forcing users to deal with it quite yet.>>43295314You're welcome, nonny! I enjoy seeing just how small I can get my images. Certainly helps with ducking 4chinz filesize limits ^c^7
A bunch of twibooru images seem to have failed or be stuck in processing, e.g. https://twibooru.org/tags/prompter-colon-cookiefilly (that's not the only uploader affected, it might be a time range)
>>43295386Hosting issues, I'm sad to say. The site's running in emergency mode, and image processing is inoperational:https://twibooru.org/search?q=processed:falseWe'd have more images failing to process, but the importer's also down.
>>43295370Okay, you listed at least 4 things that are irrelevant and I do not care about.
>>43295420What you care about is irrelevant.
>>43295415Oh fug. I hope that can be sorted!
>>43295232The issue is that when a format supports both lossy and lossless, archives using that format are no longer clearly original lossless archives. Not only is it not clear to users (without downloading the file and then checking the metadata to see the compression settings), but it's also a lot easier to accidentally mess something up and re-encode it lossily, just by putting in the wrong parameter, or forgetting that the "jpeg XL" copies are meant to be lossless originals despites having jpeg in the name.A dedicated lossless format like PNG is clearly lossless at first glance, is obviously meant to be lossless, and cannot be "accidentally" lossily compressed without changing to a completely different format.So IMO these hybrid formats, like JXL and WEBP, are completely unsuitable for archival. If I have to write a script to scan every single image and verify that it's set to lossless, and you can silently re-encode it at any time to be lossy without any visible changes and with as little as a typo in the encoder params, then it's not a reliable archive of source data.
>>43295427I dont thin that any of Reese are good arguments. Lossy PNGs are possible and a problem with the encoding parameters can always happen.
>>43295495>Lossy PNGs are possibleNo, I even tried looking this up and the PNG format is only lossless. You can of course pre-compress the file in a lossy way then save it to PNG but that's no different to saving it as a JPG and then back to a PNG, and it requires extra effort that pretty much requires being malicious.>a problem with the encoding paramtersBut for a lossless format like PNG that will never lead to silent data loss. Either the encoding breaks, or maybe the file accidentally is way too big or something, but in all cases the original data is preserved.
>>43295545>requires being maliciousNever attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity. PNGs with JPEG artifaction are a digital dime a dozen.
>>43295567Yes when the image is sourced from a random place on the internet, where it may have been re-saved multiple times, forcefully re-encoded by random websites (e.g. artist sends doodle to a friend over whatsapp, whatsapp re-encodes it as a compressed jpeg, friend posts it in discord meme channel, discord re-encodes it as compressed webp, someone downloads it to post on booru, re-saves as png for whatever reason).However even in those cases, the "source" you're working with is compressed, but saving it as PNG preserves at least that source losslessly. If you find a better source later you should definitely use it, but in the meantime, just because it's already compressed, doesn't mean that it's fine to just continue saving it compressed and subjecting it to re-encoding at will. Unless it's already so deep-fried as to be considered worthless.If you have a given clean source, and you provide it as PNG, anyone can see at a glance that you almost certainly did not lose any data. If you're providing it as JXL, there is zero visual difference between someone providing source images unmodified and someone compressing everything for space.
>>43295586>discord re-encodes it as compressed webp
>>43295590Every time someone sends me a discord link to an image it's always>...image.png&=&format=webp&height=400&width=600or some shit at the end. And if I ever want to save the image I always have to manually cut this shit out of the URL to be able to save the original "image.png". At least this does work, yes, but it's cumbersome as shit and I don't expect 99% of normies to bother.
>>43295586There are ways of determining if JPEG XL datastreams are lossy or not, but they're more involved than a simple magic number check. I don't consider this a mark against the format, since its hybrid compression scheme offers superior performance in both lossless and lossy applications, but it definitely requires additional consideration before implementation.>>43295600How odd. I can only get Dicksword to serve me a reencoded media URL if I expand an image, right-click, and /then/ click on "Copy/Open Media Link". "Copy/Save Image" still returns the original file, and so does pressing "Copy/Open Media Link" without first expanding the image. This only happens on web and desktop clients; the mobile app lacks this behavior (which is strange, if this is meant to be a data-saving measure).All of which is to say, unless you follow those specific steps, you won't get files reencoded by Dicksword. Now, you still shouldn't rely on it for file storage, since its media links only last for 24 hours at the most before expiring, but you can at least instruct people on the proper method for extracting those links: expanding images before copying their links is additional effort that creates more work for you (at least, until you decide to build a link sanitizer).
>>43295631>There are ways of determining if JPEG XL datastreams are lossy or not, but they're more involved than a simple magic number check.That's even worse.>I don't consider this a mark against the formatHow? Good compression performance is nice, but separate lossly and lossless formats exist for a reason. And lossless formats are fundamentally important for data preservation, not just "to look good". If the format doesn't even make it clear in the metadata whether the compression was lossy or not, and requires some advanced analysis, then clearly it's not meant for preserving data losslessly at all - the file format just tells you how the image looks, and is optimised to make it look good, not for data preservation and archival.>How odd. [...]Interesting. I don't use discord myself so I never bothered to look into how it works, but when friends send me links, they've almost always got "&format=webp" in them.>and so does pressing "Copy/Open Media Link" without first expanding the imageAlso fascinating behaviour, I guess when you expand it discord sends a link to the expanded "thumbnail" view rather than the full image? That's really strange behaviour. I guess I'll give Discord the benefit of the doubt then and assume it's just a poorly implemented interaction, and not a forceful propagation of webp to fuck up people's images. And I'll tell anyone that sends me a discord link to copy it from the unexpanded view then
>>43295641PNG serves as a de-facto archival format because it's universally supported and lossless within its specifications, but it wasn't developed as some foolproof preservation tool. It just ended up in that position because of its utility as a web format, while others, such as TIFF, with its stronger metadata standards and proper support for additional colorspaces, remained obscure due to their complexity.In the realm of commonly-used web formats, JPEG XL has potential to reach an audience far beyond that of TIFF's scientific/technical crowd, while still bringing many more advanced features to the forefront: HDR support, high-fidelity animated images, and lossless, reversible recompression of JPEGs. These are all major advantages for any archival operation, and the added utility shouldn't discourage utilization.
>the jew is pushing formats that aren't even supported without debug flags, even in most Support Everything forks of browsers
>>43295722I think it depends what is meant by preservation. The first priority should be preserving the actual data, with reasonable searchability. For example, a PNG image on a booru has as much metadata as you could want, regardless of what the PNG format itself support: the actual image container is mostly used to store the raw image data. And for this PNG was indeed explicitly designed to be a foolproof preservation tool of image data, in the sense of only providing fully reversible lossless compression, and therefore preserving the original image completely unchanged.It's true that it became popular as a web format, but it is at a minimum good enough for losslessly preserving RGB images, which is the vast majority of digital content out there.If JXL cannot even guarantee losslessness, then it fails at this very basic task. All the advanced features are useless for archival if the format itself does not unambiguously provide lossless archival. "Hmm MAYBE the settings were set to not throw away information, who knows, feel free to forensically analyse the data streams if you want to check!" is not good enough to provide assurance of archival.All these features like HDR and stuff are definitely nice, and it would be good to have a PNG successor that supports HDR and provides modern features for unambiguous lossless storage. JXL is not that, and failing at the most basic requirements of being able to provide clear assurance of losslessness means it is unsuitable for archival regardless of any other features it may or may not have.Also, PNG supports animation too. The support for that isn't super widespread but neither is support for JXL.>lossless, reversible recompression of JPEGsLosslessly recompressing JPEGs might actually be a niche but valuable feature. I take it this means it can prevent further generational loss? That's neat, since the current alternative of re-encoding as PNG blows up the size instead, and keeping it as JPEG obviously opens it up to generational loss if it's ever re-encoded or re-saved.But again that's a niche usecase and extremely specific to existing JPEG images, and doesn't have any bearing on the format's utility for archiving other things, like images that are currently PNGs.
>>43295741>JXL cannot even guarantee losslessnessIt can, no forensics required: jxlinfo gives a lossy/lossless readout based off a .jxl file's image and frame headers. This allows one to tell whether the encoding was done using --lossless (or --near-lossless, which is similar in spirit to pngquant).>animated imagesAPNG is a nightmare format because PNG was never designed to be multi-frame. JPEG XL was.
I rolled out a new and improved ponebin.New stuff:- Dark mode (which throws a fucking flashbang when the page loads, I'm going to fix that soon). To change press the button in the upper right corner.- Added paste version handling (if multiple archives happen to contain the same paste). Click the "other versions" below the title.- The pastebin.com -> poneb.in url change still works, presents you the latest known version of the paste.- Added fuzzy search in paste titles.- Fixed the ordering on the author page, it's much faster and you can now click on the whole header instead of just the text (I don't know how I did not notice this previously)- Added an issue report function where you can call me a faggot, but only a limited number of times before it locks (you) out.- If a paste is misidentified as markdown or as greentext you can change it now.- Re-imported all the pastes to fix stripped away whitespace where it was used for formatting.- Download RAW now presents you the actual file which was imported, with all the fucked up character encoding issues for your pleasure. Well almost the actual file which was imported: the metadata if it was in the file is removed and the line endings might not be the same. The TXT buttons present an utf8 re-encoded variant.- Authors who is known under multiple names are also handled properly. It presents you with a merged list of pastes from all the alt names, while displaying the latest known name.- It's not pain in the ass to roll out changes anymore (I don't have to re-generate ~200k files to deploy a fix).Should I add a list of authors? Or just make it searchable instead?Should the guest/anonymous user have an author page? I disabled it currently, as it shows many thousands of pastes.If anyone knows other pastebin archives which is worth importing then link it. Only requirement is that it shall somehow contain the author's name, paste ID, creation date, optionally the modification date. And the archive itself shall have date when it was made.
>>43295875You should kill yourself, now!
>>43295894
>>43229456Where's the fat Lyra?
>>43295959tl;dr zizzy nuked his site after his furry bff got arrested for baby porn and roblox grooming
>>43296138Damn. Can't wait for the youtube essays on how crazy the zizzy situation is.
Oh hey, drama bait.
>>43296138But the site is still up.
>>43296233Would you prefer 100 more posts of JXL autism?
>decide to check out the "derpibooru import" tag>it's all furfag sparkledog and fetish garbageWhy are we even still mirroring this site?
>>43296680It doesn't matter if a picture gets lossily re-encoded. Have you seen what an AI upscaler can do? You get back literally the same picture you started with.
>>43297011>AI upscalerssoullessJPEGs are soul, every picture should have artifacting
>>43297026In your view, does losslessly transcoding JPGs to JXL preserve their soul?
>>43297029No. Lossless transcoding is sterile, it kills the soul. The soul is a living thing, it needs a lossy algorithm to thrive and be preserved
>>43297032But the lossy JPG compression is still there, just optimized with better entropy coding. It's the same JPG crust in a more compact package.
>>43297034What if I stick you into a cryofreezer, and your brain is still there just optimised better by being frozen to -100 degrees or some shit, huh nigger
>>43297057If you could losslessly restore me to my former 36 celsius self, why not?
>>43297060Cause you'd be former and dead
NOW we're talking autism.
Twi's statements page seems deeply out of date. The page itself says it's been updated in 2024, the actual statement.html page only has stuff from 2021 though.
>>43297124I think they've been paying it out off their own pocket ever since they let that cockgoblin run free reign on the site.
>>43297132>that cockgoblinAnon you're gonna have to specify which poopdickschizo specifically you're talking about this time
>>43297135Who has singlehandedly worked tirelessly to destroy Twibooru's reputation, going so far as to get into an edit war with the fucking owner of the place, even?
>>43297145Somebody I've probably never heard of because I use boorus to look at fetish porn of ponies, not to read about retarded internal drama, unless it starts actually affecting what exists on-siteI use ponerpics also and haven't noticed any particular discrepancies between the two (unlike derpi), other than the usual importer fuckery
>>43297180>I use boorus to look at fetish porn of poniesThen why are you asking about their financial statements?
>>43297203So that I can potentially financially support them so they continue hosting fetish porn of ponies for my enjoymentNo but seriously give me a QRD on the latest drama so I can judge whether it's a nothingburger or whether twi is actually compromised now
>>43295875>Should I add a list of authors? Or just make it searchable instead?Both is good, preferably a list of authors you can search through>Should the guest/anonymous user have an author page?Yes, I would like to browse through thereMe want read all
>>43297132Can confirm, the cost per month is currently around 250-300 USD, and I've been paying it out of pocket entirely myself for at least a year.Intentionally not commenting on the "drama" because I'm not involved.
>>43297216It's not recent "drama", it's just my hypothesis why their funds ran out when earlier they had someone donate enough money to keep them afloat for several years. There have been several flare-ups of drama since that time, all centered around this same person, yet they persist because admittedly they're relatively actively doing work on the site, just along with a bunch of bullshit that they should've at least been reprimanded for.
>>43297296>why their funds ran out when earlier they had someone donate enough money to keep them afloat for several years.Anon... It's because several years passed. There's no greater conspiracy theory.
>>43297296Stop vagueposting or shut up nigger>didn't you hear about the drama?>it's not really "drama">there have been flareups over the years...>it's all centered around the same person...>doing a bunch of bullshit...>it's probably why their funds disappeared!Either tell me who the mythical poopdickschizo is, and why you think he caused the funds to evaporate, or stop being a fucking nigger>>43297271Also, 300 * 12 is $3.6k/year, and in 2021 they had received about $14k in donations. That would last about 4 years. It's now been 5 years since we're in 2026, so about a year since donations ran out sounds vaguely plausible, back of the napkin.Anyway, filly, updating the statements would still be nice so people who want to donate can gauge how much it's needed. Unless Twibooru is intentionally operating self-funded now and no longer interested in donations. Either way even if you don't have time to update the full statements, it'd be really nice if you could at least find 5 minutes to either write>statements are old, we don't require donations anymore so I can't be bothered to update themif you don't need donations, or>I know statements are outdated, I will get around to updating them eventuallyif you do (and then do get around to updating them in that case).Rather than the current page stating it's updated in 2024, and linking to statements from 2021
>>43297313Yeah but my implication is the person who was willing to splurge thousands of dollars on your site is somehow no longer interested in doing so.
>>43297314I'll see what state the statements are in a little later today, because I suspect what happened is I updated them up to 2024, and then failed to actually upload the updated stuff. It's tedious, but if I have the time/energy I'll try and bring them current. Otherwise, yeah, agreed about adding a note.
>>43297329Cheers
>boxless deletes images he personally dislikes while leaving his personal pokemon fat fetish art alone>boxless and friends call everyone who point out these issues a pedo because they can't actually argue in favor of the bad moderation>site stops getting donations>w-wha happen?!?!?!?
>>43297494sopeaking of fat fetish, why doesn't that has a tag? i fucking hate seeing it but it is not possible to filter for
>>43297522https://twibooru.org/tags/fat+fetish exists, but it's rather underused. It may be advisable for you to filter https://twibooru.org/tags/fat out entirely.
>>43297526It also sucks that I can't look for chubby ponies without getting a ton of blobs, most of them not tagged with the blob tag or something like "impossibly fat" or whatever either. It's probably one of the most underused tags, yet moderation only cares if the loli tags or whatever are applied, when these images hurt my eyes far more than any "underage" image does.I've already accepted I need to browse through fatshit when looking up chubby ponies, it seems the nature of the fetish, but there's no reason I need to have to see blobs too.
>>43297522 (me)>>43297526This sums it up for me: >>43297544I don't want to look at chubby ponies, but it's not something I want to block. I want to block the cargo ship level fat fetish shit.
>>43297544>>43297643this is largely a problem of the fatfags refusing to tag things beyond 'fat' and even then, failing to tag their fetishmy condolences
Twibooru update: in 30 minutes, the site will go down for maintenance lasting approximately one hour. We appreciate your patience and understanding.
>>43297544>>43297788>>43297643I wonder if any other fetish has this baby-tier infighting, like if inflatefags get autistically angry if it's more than a single balloon's size increase, or if rapefags have meltdowns if, I don't know, if the rapist is an inch taller than the rapee instead of the other way around. To use another "not exiled to /trash/" example, like, do incestfags have a melty when the sister is older instead of younger?It's only here where I see this moaning btw. No other site or community is like "reeeeeeeeeeee why do versions of my fetish that aren't as tame and casual and babby as my preferences exist".
>>43297890But it does happen for rapefags. They have some inscrutable gradation between "dubcon", "noncon", and "rape". Get it wrong and some of them get autistically angry. I have more sympathy for the fatfags.
>>43297909Rape is a state of mind.
>report on ponerpics>status: open>opened: about 12 hours ago
>>43297946Upload the fixed version and your original upload will be merged into it.
>>43297950thanks, uploaded
>>43297884Twibooru is back up and running smooth on a new server!It'll be a few hours before it's finished reindexing and all uploads are once again searchable, but the importer remains running to ensure no mares are missed.
>>43298036>new serverDoes the site still get so much load it actually needs new hardware? Kind of amazing, you'd think any 10-year old server would be able to handle a simple site like this. Well I expect some storage upgrades might be needed from time to time.
>>43298242Think you underestimate the amount of traffic the site gets, and underestimate what exactly is going on. Think it gets 5-10 million unique visitors a month, generating about 200 million hits. Note that INCLUDES images, which are indeed cheap to serve. But every request to the site itself hits 3 different databases multiple times (Postgres, ElasticSearch, Redis) and does a shitload of work to find, filter, and serve your mares. The main CPU consumer is image and video processing though - on the old CPU, processing a WebM of a few minutes could take hours. No idea how fast it'll be on this machine, we'll see.Main reason for the upgrade is the price is cheaper for a faster server, there is more storage (18TB usable vs 10TB usable, which was nearly entirely full), and we experienced hardware failure - the SSDs on the old server were sitting at 170% used and often throwing errors, and one of the storage HDDs just vanished off the bus, meaning if we lost a second one I would have to restore from backups.
>>43298500>Think it gets 5-10 million unique visitors a monthIf you use CF to track this, I'm pretty sure it spits out nonsense numbers. Like it counts a visitor "new" if there is a few hours between requests/sessions.
>>43298523I use nginx, however I assumed 5 years ago that it was 50% bots, and nowadays I assume more like 80-90%. It's still traffic to the site that I need to handle.
>>43298527>more like 80-90%Yea, it's about there.It's an odd pattern, I see one path getting hit, then the same one gets hit from many different IPs/browsers/OS. Even if that path serves a 404 error. A normal user would refresh it once or twice in a span of a few seconds, but then leave it. The bots just retry like clockwork. I saw one which returned an error (server error which I log, so it can be fixed), the user probably refreshed it a couple of times in a span of ~10 seconds then gave up. A hour later like clockwork various random IPs, browsers, OS-es tried the same. Then again an hour later (plus minus a few minutes/seconds). And so on and on.I using the "blocking all known bots rule" in CF, that gets rid of quite a few, but not all. For normal users, serve a captcha on first visit (not the CF one, that get bypassed immediately). Something simple like a question of "who's this pony?" and an image of one of the m6 and 6 buttons.If you can reduce the traffic by 90% that's a big improvement.
>>43298527Interesting. Shouldn't you be able to use some shit like anubis or whatever the latest meme is, to cut down on that 90% of traffic and hopefully bring the hosting costs significantly down?
>>43298696Cloudflare is already in the highest bot blocking mode. This is traffic that gets past Cloudflare. Anubis is retarded and trivial to bypass. And I'm not going to force EVERY user to do a JavaScript challenge.That and, once again, main cost is CPU and storage. Main use of CPU is video and image encoding, not serving requests. Can't use any of the meme storage services (eg: Cloudflare R2) because it needs to be DMCA-resistant.I don't want / I'm not asking for it to be cheaper, to be clear. I'm happy paying the amount I pay.
>>43298724Interesting. I think the catbox guy said traffic was the most expensive part. I would've thought bulk storage should be relatively cheap (at least before the AI crash lmao)
>>43298724>Anubis is retarded and trivial to bypassI'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks this.
>>43298724>trivial to bypassThe point of it is not to be able/not to be able to be bypassed. It is to make it not 0 cost to bypass.
>>43298934afaik anubis just lets through some user agents (like curl) for free, by design, which does make the cost 0the question is whether any scrapers actually change their user agent for this to skip the challenge
>>43298946I think its configurable.
>jpeg xl autismNah, I want avif
>>43298724You should make image searching for registered users only.
>>43299639I'm not sure if that's a good idea.
>>43300312Nice pussy. Not too big - just the right size.
>>43299972
>>43295047JXL does not require re-encode.>>43299589>Wants another mayfly format that would be killed off by Google in a year in favor of yet another shitty iframe codecThey need to stop trying to put square peg into a round hole. Video codecs are for video.
>>43301039You really don't have a clue what you're talking about.
>>43301137>he used imagemagick for conversion and now complainsuse cjxl for lossless transcode
For booru uploaders of paid mlp content: looks like kemono is on permanent hiatus, use pawchive.st asan alternative. Not a lot of artists are currently imported, tho.>>43249878See above
>>43301182>pawchive.stWhy do they always have such terrible names?
>>43251174You underestimate the amount of absolutely random artists who decide to put shit on patreon for no reasonThere's no single specific name that single-handedly makes patreon scraping interesting, but it's just a non-negligible background volume of random shit that only lives behind a paywall. It's worth caring about for archival purposes (for the same reason boorus have 2M+ images and not just your personal collection of favorite artists).
>251201>251494The whole point of mlp/pony archival is that you archive EVERYTHING, not pick-and-choose what "deserves" it. If you make your own site, and apply your logic, it would a shit archive. Ironic, isn't it?
>>43301356Who are you quoting?
>>43301356Some files are rare simply because nobody wants them.
>>43301360NTA. A couple of people who were dismissing the whole idea of scraping kemono because of some MLP artists. The MLP artists in question:>TwistedAnthro>Mr. All Mares Look Like Demented Celestias>Nohooves-Shart>DOGovlev-vad>AlcorNot a good list to be fair. I'm all for it being archived but I understand the Anons' responses because their works suck Octavia's dad's dick.
>>43301383>because their works suck Octavia's dad's dickI agree but who the fuck is the demented Celestias guy?
>>43301388Clopician.
did poneb.in get a makeover? I was just on it a few weeks ago and I don't remember there being a search bar.
>>43301411Stop shilling your trash here. It's embarrassing.
>>43301411Yes it did. See >>43295875>>43301435Stop seeing ghosts everywhere.
>>43295875Oh, I forgot flashbang is fixed.And a few pastes which caused internal server errors are fixed too (it was a DB issue, forgot to update a few references).
>>43298724The broken previews for webm/mp4 is known right?
>>43301892Those aren't bugs, they're surprise mechanics.
I watch G4 on Saturday,Truthfully a whole lot more, screaming at the anons who pushed him through the door
>>43295875Did you not see "the door"? Refusing to leave would be quite hypocritical of you, don't you think?
>>43295875What's ponebin? I don't see it listed in the OP.
>>43302835>Refusing to leaveJust like the vodka drinking orks from the territory of another country.
>>43303047>>>/pol/
these sites are slow.why are you guys promoting them?
>>43303062You know what isn't slow? Xitter.Go back there.
>>43303066i mean it's a serious criticism. they are fucking slow. i dont even go to derpibooru.
>>43303069No, it's not valid criticism.
>>43303062Not to mention the fuckton of missing images. But hey, instead we get endless amount of aislop and loli. Neither things I want.
>>43303075Then use Derpibooru instead. Problem solved. Last (You) you're getting from me.
>>43302942It was removed from OP like Ponybooru.
>>43303075What images are missing?
I don't usually go into this general, I just did out of curiosity and now I discover anons hate the ponebin guy?Is there a particular reason?Personally, I don't care if the guy's an asshole as long as he genuinely archives pony stuffDoes anyone even have a backup of what's there in case he decides to delete the site or something?I'm new to this /fast/ drama
>>43303138Depending on what site you came crawling in here from you'll probably think he's based when you hear the reason.
>>43303138Here comes the Aeroflot: https://desuarchive.org/mlp/thread/38373032/#38373781
>>43303149>vatniggers first instinct is gay rape
>>43303149This was never resolved, was it?
>>43303645Yes it was, ponebin got removed from the OP.
>>43303791It has the dubious honor of being the first site to get delisted in the absence of a total shutdown, its useless ideologue producing a useful precedent.
>>43303939Pretty sad, really.
>>43303791If you call that resolved, then sure. But noone took the time and effort to spin up an alternative, except the ias guy. The ponebin guy even posted the full db dump, yet you vatniggers can only do one thing: reee with foaming mouths. And not like the fag did more than take existing archives, register a domain and host them.
>>43304005It sounds like you're still using his site so I don't know why you even care.
>>43304005>vatniggersI don't even know what that means.
LOL
>>43304271https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vatnik
>>43304071I don't care about it. I'm not affected. But all I see here are hypocrite people reeeing. If they were so in love with vodkaland the they should make an alternative for ponebin. Its like the climate activists. They do absolutely nothing to make things better. Whining won't solve any problem.
@43304351Put your Cadance flag back on.
>43304411Imagine being so delusional that you see things that aren’t there.
<<43304609>delusion is when you point out how closely self-righteous retards can resemble each other
43304612Just like vatniggers
>>43304351>>43304411>>43304609>>43304612Restoring lost (You)s
>>43304411This post wasn't me. I don't mind PB being removed from the op because all of the people causing trouble left. It's the same otherwise over there, it'll be even better when I get the email stuff fixed.>altboorusThough I will say you guys as a loose community of horse adjacent people will be highly upset to lose redundancy and you'd do well not to let another copy of the data you want on the internet disappear. You guys do genuinely seem to be incapable as a whole of setting up your own altboorus as you remove them from the OP, so what happens when boxless or gold meddle from either booru goes nutty and you need to remove them. You gonna just have one alt booru and that's it?Is that your master plan?>future plansWish you guys well on your future plans, I'm going to continue focusing on performance and power savings over on PB.
>>43304749We should make an alt alt site thread!
>>43304749The data is already gone because YOU fucking deleted it my dude.
>>43304800>implying he deleted anything>implying he isn't just keeping his lolicon stash hidden now
>>43304800>>43304801kek pedos
Elevating discussion guys, really.
On a final note, I'm pleased to report that Quad9 DNS no longer blocks FoalFetch. Time will tell how long this lasts.And now, at your leisure:>>43304826>>43304826>>43304826>>43304826
>>43304828Quad9 keeps shitting the bed so fucking often nowadays that it's basically unusable for me at least. Unfortunate
