Why is Tamers so unfunny, talentless and cringe?
>>43231218what have you made then OP?
>>43231220Not a real argument.
>retard flame war baiting thread
I enjoyed his stuff right up until The Death of Twilight Sparkle where it became clear he actually wanted to make his own shounen series but he didn't have the skill necessary to do it so he pretended to be doing all the action scenes as a bit.
>>43231218furry humour
>>43231218He draws some excellent pony ass but the farts and humor put me off
>>43231292That’s what I hate about him as well. He comes off as deeply insecure about his own abilities, so rather than trying his best and risking having it suck, he makes it “intentionally” suck to avoid criticism. Because if you put no effort into it, you can hand wave away any criticism with “you just don’t get it.” Deeply pathetic.
>>43231292I stopped watching after the episode where Pommel gets in a coma. I should've stopped watching earlier (around the Soarin and Braeburn christmas episode), as I realized how he was just forcing new plots to continue his fanfic for the sake of it. He should just go back to producing Sonic Underground (or another franchise) at this point. The joke ran its course and there's probably things more deserving of his scat fetishes.
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>>43231364I think he should probably just stop making videos altogether since he just isn’t funny or talented and never has been.
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What if they are funny thoughbeit?
>>43231218I liked him until he started to put all his focus retarded Roblox game. He lost credibility for me when he did that.
>>43231593Same. Especially with the number of controversies that game and that platform have gotten it seems off putting to work with that.
>>43231218Just about everything after Shattered Harmony, which was rushed but still sucked, is awful. The Soarin and Braeburn videos were okay up until the movie, and literally everything the nigger stallion and mail guy touched turned to shit.
On some level, I appreciate any kind of Tamers hate, but these “He was good until…” people blow my fucking mind. He was NEVER funny or talented. It’s not a recent development.
>>43231653This
>>43231218People obsessed with shipping tend to make bottom of the barrel slop.
>>43231653The gif in opopen it, watch it, and then tell me why it does not spark joy.
>>43231653>He was NEVER funnyDumb bullshit is pretty fun. If he exclusively did dumb bullshit without trying to build a greater world that totally has such deep lore brooo I'd still enjoy his stuff, but he doesn't really want to make dumb bullshit now that he's been praised for his creative output.
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>>43231653In hindsight, he's mostly unfunny save for a few videos only. The bowling alley one and TDoTS are outliers for retards like me.
>>43231653Yeah but all I am saying some things like catering to Roblox games are the nail in the coffin for some people.
>>43231657I’m the OP. I saw it when I was looking for a cringe image to immediately make my point about how much he sucks. While I will say that it’s one of his 1/100 drawings that look SLIGHTLY less hideous than his standard ones, the “animation” is shit, the zoomer reference is cringe, and the use of live action photos is just his lame excuse to be lazy. It sucks. Again, the face is marginally less shit than his standard type of “most ugly drawing you’ve ever seen,” but that’s about as nice as I can be. It sucks.>>43231660Even though I think that at his best, he definitely still sucks, I think the attempts at “storytelling” he does are so embarrassing that I almost added the word “pretentious” to my opening post, but I decided to focus on how, even when he’s doing what he’s “best” at, he still sucks ass.>>43231728Fair enough. Oof.
>>43231771Okbut had you consideredthat the dumb pink pony is experiencing happy?The choice to focus on the spinner as a generational allegiance symbol while disregarding its form and function both is one you're making, and not one that tamers is making and putting into his art. The expectation of, requirement for, and emotional investment in buttery 40k blue-ray silky-smooth and fluid and accurate animation is at least an objective standard, but failure of that standard does not make art bad. You can, right now, imagine or remember a 3 frame animation that made you laugh. I mean, you should be able to, at least. That would be normal. Getting mad at the use of edited photos of real objects arranged in a picture is absurd enough that I'm just not gonna bother making an argument about that part.However, the point I'm making, is that if you want to properly say why a thing is shit, you have to first know what the thing actually IS. A hammer is a really shitty nail. That doesn't make the hammer shit.The gif in OP is a retard with nothing between their ears being completely fixated by a little spinney plastic thing, which is why they mostly aren't moving and their motions are simple, because those specific artistic choices are reflections of the idea being communicated, and they communicate that idea. Smoother animation would make the gif worse. A more detailed and engaging background would make the gif worse. A less contemporary and common object of attention would make the gif worse. What you have to do, the one thing you have to do to find joy in the image, isn't forget about zommies, or ignore bad animation. No, what you have to do is empathize. And if you can't, that's your fuckup.
>>43231844Retarded cope response. “Yeah, it’s shit, but just pretend that it isn’t.” No.
>>43231852That was me, BTW. I decided to take off the Cozy flag when I made the OP post.
>>43231852>zoomie related>3 frames>no background at allBehold, a shit animation, is it not?Disgusting, right?
>>43231908What's with the empty posts like this that don't bump the thread? Are they some sort of proxy thing?
>>43231873Oh, sorry, I didn’t realize I was arguing with an actual retard.
>>43231935>avoiding the obvious answer to the easy questionSee, if you refuse to think the things you can think of for yourself, then how do you dare you ask others questions?Preform your duties.
>>43231996Every point was wrong. It’s not the game’s fault that it appeals to zoomers; that’s totally different than making nostalgia slop for twelve year olds. Three frames is perfectly suitable for that walk cycle, and it looks good. And it’s a GIF from a video game… a video game that HAS backgrounds.
>>43231218I have some degree of respect because he inspired me to try to draw despite being pretty much old to start anything new and not very talented. Also really want to use some of his techniques and pipeline to try to make my own fan episodes, parody or straight animated fanfic but without any crap or piss because honestly disgusts me. Like without piss and shit on screen I could share a lot of his stuff to some people.
>>43232028It's not the spinner's fault that it appeals to zoomers. Among us is absolutely nostalgia slop for the youth at this point, at least a much as a spinner is. Game's full of 12 year olds.>three frames is suitableoh, so there IS such a thing as suitability? So it is possible for few frames to be appropriate?So a hoof flickin a spinner could need about 3 frames, with 3 more being appropriate for the spinner spinning?So it was unfair of me to point out that this hammer made a really poor nail without taking into account what this gif was actually supposed to DO?
>>43232072You’re a retard. The GIF in question sucks. It’s not a matter of if it COULD be good if you’re just reading about the details of it instead of actually looking at it. It’s not good. It sucks.
>>43232066>Tamers style without piss and shitSome people are already doing thathttps://youtu.be/Dbov_F3Prak
>>43232066>but without any crap or piss because honestly disgusts meI actually got Spec of all people to show me art that Tamers drew of his mare and it wasn't even bad. He could be an unironically good MS Paint pony artist if he didn't milk Xittertards or those in the dedicated thread for Patreon gibs.
>>43231919Yes, they do it to get their new IP whitelisted. Some threads can only be posted in with "aged" IPs which blocks the pedoproxy.
>>43232076If you give up on having an explanation of what sucks about it, then the only justification you can have for your feelings is your feelings.Are all feelings correct, always? Because, if so, then the gif sparks joy in me, and I am right too.So, back to your original question>Why is Tamers so unfunny, talentless and cringe?Well, that question was asked with regards to your own perspective, and using the lens of analasys which you have suggested, things suck because they are bad, and they are bad because when you look at them they suck. Tamers is not bad because of reasons which make you dislike his product. In stead, tamers is bad because you disliked his product which makes the product bad. Using the selected lens, this is the reason, and is all that can ever be said on the matter.
I still have a profound respect and admiration for the Tamers brothers. I've been watching their work since Sonic and Bartleby Go To Summer Camp and I thoroughly watched and rewatched all of the content from the Great Cereal Crisis forward. Even checked out his old DeviantArt for fun, too. I've been a Two-Tamers Theory guy since the Obi-Wan and Sportacus Video released before the Battle With The Boys. The humour worked extremely well there primarily due to several factors: 1) An intense and decade-long appreciation for a long dead show in a franchise barely maintaining relevance today. 2) 90% of the frames of his cartoons being rapid cheap by-the-numbers MS Paint crap suddenly mixed in with very high quality frames. 3) 90% of the dialogue being extremely toxic, fetishistic, and sociopathic with 10% of it being honest-to-God good dialogue and storyboarding.The inability to tell whether or not he's an accidental genius or a true genius was a great amount of the appeal. The tongue-in-cheek self-awareness while continuing a wrestling-style kayfabe of being stuck at mom's trailer-park in bumblefuck mid-west America was the core sub-structure that kept the entire Tamers comedy-sphere alive, imho.But the dramatic shift to taking the SU style writing and storyboarding but then applying it to a very fresh, new, extremely child-focused franchise like Dandy's World just doesn't do anything for me. The fact Sonic Underground is 27 years old and wouldn't be watched by any kids today is what made it work. The fact MLP is extremely well known to have overpaid undersocialized fetishistic weirdo's in its community and the show's revitalization was 15+ years ago makes it work. When the franchise you're sexualizing and applying the toxic yuri/yaoi script to is a Roblox game currently being actively developed and marketed to 9-13 year olds today the comedy isn't there anymore. It just starts to feel like Tamers is Icarius flying too close to the sun. It's not ironic anymore. It starts to look and feel like actual targeting of children, even if it isn't. There's just not enough of a temporal gap between Dandy's World and Tamers' brand of comedy for it to really work. Instead it just comes off like the spiderman/Elsa farting fetish crap that was on youtube years back.
>>43232086This demonstrates how despite having some red flags to his videos Tamers have some kind of small influence to try new things and keep making fan stuff. Funny thing how he was in a crusade to revitalize Sonic Underground but instead helped the brony community. You can't hate the guy for having pretty low standards and disgusting kinks but you cannot deny his influence in his determination
Nobody actually likes Tamers’s videos at all. It’s just a hipster thing to pretend to like garbage. “You wouldn’t even understand, mom. It’s epic bacon 6-7 skibbidy toilet! To hell with your old school ‘effort’ and ‘quality.’ Feed me shit!”
>>43232327I'd counter you by pointing out how frequent the containment thread hits the bump limit but I never visit it and can only hope it's full of hate and hate and more hate.
>>43232382I think people ironically like it, which is some weird hipster thing and can apply to anything. There was even a time when some poser faggots were like that for FiM, remember? During that brief window of time when Bronies were seen as counterculture, and therefore (in the minds of hipster retards) “cool”? I think that’s most of what Tamers’s fanbase is like.
>>43231218Too many chromosomes.
I watched a couple of episodes and had a chuckle a couple of times, but after that it got old. Fun for once if you're bored, but that's about it. And apparently the rest is more of the same, so I haven't bothered to check out any more videos. There's only so many times that a fart joke can be funny, by now it's obvious it's just his fetish.
>>43231218>D00D I'M SUCH A SCAT-LOVING FAGGOT! ISN'T THAT FUNNY GUISE? XDHere, summarized every single Sloppers episode ever>>43232327/co/trannies love him, and they're the main population of his astroturfed general
>>43232327>old school 'effort'His videos are shit and I'm far from a fan, but they are objectively higher effort than 99% of what /mlp/ produces nowadays because any animation of that duration is really effort-intensive.
>>43233326But it looks like shit, though and the writing is non-existent.
>>43233383I agree, but again, there is effort. Misplaced and wasted, but effort still.That makes the whole thing sadder too.
43231440>Trannersfags use sharty slanglee mao
>>43231305There's a place in the world for "so bad it's good" creatives. That's what I specialize at too, you know. I like 2000s and early 2010s era fan works so that's what I want to make.Has it occurred to you that some people like consuming and making slop and trash and not everyone wants to be top level artsy media?
>>43233410we should dox "people" who like and produce slop
>>43233410>not everyone wants to be top level artsy mediaSeems rather like post-TDoTS Tamers wants to be one, but hides behind some ironic slop layer so you cannot criticise his content. He clearly wants to make some epic anime with intricate OCs, battles, romance, and whatnot, but he can only do MSpaint and toilet shock humour.
>>43233389That’s true.>>432334102000’s and early 2010’s era fan works were infinitely better than Tamers. Tamers is not “so bad it’s good,” it’s so bad it’s fuck horrendously awful in every conceivable way.
>>43233427This too. That’s why I call his content totally insincere.
>>43233410>Has it occurred to you that some people like consuming and making slop and trash and not everyone wants to be top level artsy media?Yeah, those are rightfully labeled as "shit eaters"
Tamers has the freedom to make what he wants and the freedom to be criticized.
>>43233441...within the confines of Senegalese law of course.
>>43233410>There's a place in the world for "so bad it's good" creativesTamers is just bad though. Try again.>>43233441>Tamers has the freedom to make what he wantsTragic.
>>43233465Why does seeing someone succeed by doing what they love make you so mad?
>>43233296Even if the OP is into diapers doesnt make his critique of Tamers less valid. Tamerspedos BTFO.>>43233296offboarders get out
>>43233611Not an argument. I accept your concession.
>>43233629>Why is Tamers so unfunny Funny is subjective. It's fine that you don't think he's funny, but his comedy clearly hits with a lot of people.>talentlessCalling him talentless means he lacks skill or certain aptitude in a particular area. Clearly with the speed at which he is able to release content along with the sheer volume of it, you are factually wrong. I would even go so far to say that he may even be the #1 most efficient artist on planet earth when it comes to using the curve tool in MS paint. Sure there are others who may be better drawersm but I've not seen a single person uses it as fast as him and also make the arc look actually good. So he's far from talentless.>cringeClearly you're just out of touch or lost your whimsy.
>>43231218shut up josh
>>43233654>Funny is subjective.Wrong>his comedy clearly hits with a lot of people.They aren't people>you are factually wrongNah>Clearly you're just out of touchNo. It's the retards who are wrong.>or lost your whimsyBuzzwords buzzwords buzzwords yawn
>>43233673No arguments. I accept your concession.
>>43233687You're the wrong one here. You need to present your arguments. I am objectively correct. Hope this helps!
>>43233654>le whimsyI agreed with everything else you said but now I don't so you should go back to Xitter and then kill yourself
>>43233716>How dare you use a word used multiple times in My Little Ponyhuh?
>>43233654Also I'd like to point out Tamers will do little things like write Sweetie Bells to say https://youtu.be/UN86HNkDoyM?t=2861 which is a direct reference to https://youtu.be/euT_FP3p0-0?t=1281 which I think is pretty cool in it's own right as an oldfag. You can tell he's in it for more than just the grift.
>>43233729>pretending not to knowTamersfags aren't sending their best.
I reckon the curve tool on MS-Paint classic is impressively good and underrated, it's true bezier.The other artist who use it is Darkdoomer.
>>43231653>Hurr durr I liek when ppl hate Tamers, but wen ppl dont fully hate Tamers liek me, I seethe.lol wtf are gettting at?
>>43232317And that's one of the reasons I love this artist, he's weird, he's making fucked stuff, ironic, shitpost tier but has something personal I like a lot.>>43233788True, even if it's turned into vectors with whatever modern crap, the older MSpaint has this curve tool, and it's a good one, where Illustrator uses Spline curves and Flash used to go with similar ones. Inkscape's got a similar, but not qyuite like that dumb app that barely changed since 1995. You can also go insane and use nurbs aka B-splines on Blander for 2D art, I think this is what gives the aesthetic smoothness in a LOT of good 3D that's hard to find, Tamers got that. Visually, the pixels are an aesthetic I really like, don't use blending, look at the oekaki artists mostly japanese, low resolution, full scale drawings like this have a tough vibe I really like and find in a few artists like Mouseu does.
I dislike Tamers and his content does not elicit joy in me. However I dislike whiny faggots like OP even more who feel the need to tell the whole board they dont like the gay poo poo fetish youtuber. Just the hide the Tamer threads in the catalog you dumb autist.
>>43234251>Just the hide the Tamer threadsI did. Then they started shitting on things I liked outside of their containment general while shilling their slop. I think it's great more people are shitting on them.
>>43235011>>Hurr durr I liek when ppl hate Tamers, but wen ppl dont fully hate Tamers liek me, I seethe.I don't think I've seen that happen even oncelike what they just hop in flutterrape and go "wow more like flutter shit watch tamers"?
>>43234251>e. However I dislike whiny faggots like OP even more who feel the need to tell the whole board they dont like the gay poo poo fetish youtuber. Just the hide the Tamer threads in the catalog you dumb autist.ultimately this, but I'll play devils advocate and say truth that applies here as much as saying the sky being blue or the fact every living thing inevitably dies. some people like to fight whether its verbal, written, or physical. such people will always look for a fight no matter what cause they like the dopamine hit it gives them. and like an addict they will seek it out no matter what and no matter who they hurt in the process. on the other hand you also have people who are genuinely passionate on the topic who feel the need to comment and debate as well. >>43235011Playing devils advocate again I get this position as well, but do take in mind that there are people who like to pose as tamerniggers and post the most inflammatory shit you can possibly imagine mixed in with the genuine posters who think he's god gift to humanity. I've gotten banned twice for fighting with with the latter and I decided that was enough for me to never do it again.
>>43235041>I don't think I've seen that happen even onceThen you're blind. Any time a new animation would come out, tamersniggers shit on it. They're rats.
>>43235053Don't care. Still hate them.
>>43235055Post a link.
>>43235060https://desuarchive.org/mlp/thread/41891439/#41891439See alsohttps://desuarchive.org/mlp/thread/42106642/#42106642>inb4 d-doesn't count!
>>43235065>https://desuarchive.org/mlp/thread/42106642/#42106642God I hope this was archived because that little faggot deleted all his Ary shit
>>43235065>Shawn is old and busted.>Tamers is the new hotness. This... this is fucking weak. This is what you burn to maintain your rage?>Look 4channers, it's those characters you like! I can be the new Tamers, right? Most of these posts are positive, or at least 5/ the first 6.It's not clear that the negative poster likes tamers. Their "attack" is that the youtuber in question is chasing popularity, and an anon who hates people for attempting to be liked will shit on basically every creator forever because they hate them.This is the same lowest-common-denominator pandering complaint you made with the fidget spinner. Like, I could see you literally making this post. Imagine if you saw a video which you actually thought was attempting to follow in the footsteps of their hero tamers15. You would be fucking disgusted, yeah?Might be a tamers fag, might be a tamers hater, and there's a small chance this might literally be you.Anyway, doesn't matter if it's you, or if these are tamers fags. What matters is that these are insignificant and do not deserve time in your mind.
>>43235084>d-doesn't countDamn I must be a psychic or something.
>>43235092No, it counts. You weren't wrong. It is just petty bullshit.Read words.
>>43235059fair enough I suppose
>>43235101I stop reading posts when they don't align 100% with my values. I have no patience for people who disagree with me.
>>43235110In that case, you should have stopped reading after>This... this is fucking weakAnd in this section of text, I do not claim that the posts did not count, which is to say you made that shit up by your own standard, or lied.
>>43235117I hope tamers is paying you well to defend him online.
>>43235121Play the fool online, get clowned on until you realize it bores you and you're worth more than that, or until you die.It's that simple.
>>43235065Does /mlp/ not have any defenses against bait? This is pathetic
>>43235124Okay shill>>43235126>It's bait! Tamersfags Dindu Nuffin!Yikes
>>43235110weak faggot
>>43233788>the closest comparison to Tranners is a pedophiliac jewTamersaars, this is not a good look
