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>>43237171Which side do the chosen people support? I figure that's the wrong one.The funny thing is no matter if you say whites or Injuns you're still buying into the same fucking rhetoric. We should just replace them all with Yaks.
>>43237171I think both the settlers and the buffalo have good reasons to use this land.
The episode has basically the same resolution as the Penn and Teller Bullshit episode about war, which is that trade between societies creates peace. It's a very naive view of things, functionally not much different than the YOU GOTTA SHARE YOU GOTTA CARE idealism mocked in this very episode, but it does speak of the era the episode was made in where functionally Libertarian arguments would be regularly made by people who considered themselves to be left-liberals.
Well one side of the conflict consists of cute loveable ponies, while the other consists of dirty disgusting buffalo. It is truly a mystery which one I shall support.
>>43237171From a property rights perspective, the buffalo had the right to the land. But the compromise they came up with was obviously mutually beneficial and the buffalo would have been wrong to decline it (although I would support their right to decline it). Great episode tho, I think its widely misunderstood.
>>43237189I don't know, the female buffalos aren't that bad, not at the level of pony but they could make for some cute service workers or entertainers if they were properly civilized. I am not sure I'd want a bunch of them living in pony society though, they should stick to tourism hubs and their own little buffalo neighborhoods in the larger cities. Maybe one or two could live in a village if they have the pony spirit, like on a donkey level of demographics
>>43237171Both sides were right and both sides reached a reasonable conclusion at the end of the episode. Both sides win. The spirit of harmony and friendship prevails.The buttmad twitterfag in the screenshot only has a problem with it because he's brown, and therefore he's the only loser here. I see this as the best case scenario for everyone.
This episode is in my top 5 of season 1 lol, as much as everybody else seems to hate it nowadays: >>43231892
>>43237171I'm personally on the "kill twitterniggers and twitter screencap posters" side.
>>43237197>From a property rights perspective, the buffalo had the right to the land.How? They don't even actually live there like the settlers do. It's the settlers who have the much stronger claim to actually owning it. Plus the buffalo attack ponies who don't even have anything to do with the conflict, so they're far from a moral high ground.You can't just lay claim to land that you occasionally walk through, that's not how property works. Absent any legally agreed on territories and borders, you can't just claim land as your own because it's near where you live.
>>43237186>idealism mocked in this very episodeAs somebody who doesn't truly know what "libertarian" and "left-liberals" mean and suspects anybody who lets himself use these clearly compromised terms in his internal reasoning of being brainwashed by glowniggers, I don't think that's what happened. Sharing and caring for each other is the right and finalmost solution to any conflict, trade is but one of the many possible excuses to start sharing and caring (and sometimes a reason to stop sharing and caring if at least one side is retarded about it), and Pinkie is mocked for condescendingly preaching to the choir about obvious general principles.
>>43237221This
>>43237221>>43237304cope
>>43237336Word you were looking for is seethe, dumbass. Then they tell you to cope and you tell them to dilate. Get it right.
>>43237171
>>43237225>You can't just lay claim to land that you occasionally walk through, that's not how property worksThat's how Antarctica works though.
>>43237357No it doesn't. Antarctica had no native population, and everything else there is subject to treaties. I.e, legal agreements.
I side with the ponies, because I want to fuck ponies and not buffalo.
>>43237362>Antarctica had no native population>He actually believes this
>>43237368this guy gets it
>>43237225would this be the libertarian homesteading principle?
>>43237221Strawberryfag based as always.
>>43237171>ponies: want to plant more trees helping not only the local economy but also the world>buff a loo: want to stomp the ground and nothing elsehmmmmmmmm wonder who has the better reason in here....
>>43237221Absolutely basedScrew XITTERtroons
>>43237171Ponies. It’s not ok to get in the way of people who are more productive than you.
>>43237939So you support Israel?
>>43237171The settler ponies needed the land to survive.While the land was technically buffalo's property used for ritualistic purposes, we have no idea if this would impact their well-being beyond not being able to continue the tradition. The episode does not imply if failing their faith would affect their tribe in noticeable ways (famine, chaos, internal conflict, etc).If anything, pony settlers may have god closer to their side considering the princesses have god-like abilities like raising the sun and the moon.
>>43237942no, that's why i dont support the yaks and their "this land was promised to us a billion years ago so we can stomp it" nonsense
>>43237171The settler ponies deserve the land for the simple fact that they have the most civilized society/technology and are clearly the superior race when comparing to these primitive inferior buffalos or any other creature at all. We must follow the pony way, equestria must be a strong nation or will not be a nation at all.
>>43237249You nailed literally the entire reason why pinkie was mocked in the episode. Its an obvious awnser theyre borh too stubborn to see.
>>43237901Non-native and invasive trees to support THEIR economy while blocking the first peoples right to travel freely*The buffalo are terribly out of date, but I can entirely understand wanting to keep tradition. I mean, isnt keeping tradition a major deal thsse days?
>>43237171Buffalos did nothing wrong. Fuck the writers for replacing them with shitty fucking Yaks, thus canonizing their genocide, and fuck Applejack for supporting that and using her farm money to fund the gas chambers!!!!!
>>43237875>>43237197for something to be one's property one's labor (as extension of oneself) has to be included in said propertyBuffalos just passed the landAlso they didn't give a fuck about proper conflict resolution, choosing to instead just attack ponies /as a species/.
>>43238040yaks, buffalo, they are the same point still stands>>43238447Apple trees aren't invasive , at least the ones that they are using in the episode, and if they are controlling them then there is no issuenothing is stopping their tradition from continuing in a different area, i mean that's what happened in the show they changed their tradition to run in a designated spot
>>43237220>nowadaysit's always been one of the least liked episodes of season one
>>43238459>canonizing their genocidehow were the ponies supposed to know that the seeds were poisonous to the buffalo?
>All these libertarian copeReminder that if your take is something Ayn Rand would say your ticket is revoked.
>>43237901Don't forget the implication that this is the start of a long term terraforming project. Apples do terribly in arid conditions and the freezing cold at night, so the pegasi would have to bring in more temperate weather and completely reshape the desolate desert into a more livable region which would attract more and more settlers. Probably take decades/centuries to complete but what's that to an immortal ruler?
>>43237221^This
>>43237171Ponies. Always choose poners
>>43239174Stallions don’t count.
>>43237171Season 1 had so much clumsy writing. I don't get how any of you consider it the (((best))) season.>>43237350The only good part about that dogshit episode.
>>43239187>Season 1 had so much clumsy writing.Honestly, I find the sloppy nature of it really charming. It's a big part of the appeal, every aspect of season 1 feels like they're still figuring things out and it leads to experimentation as a result, like all the funny custom poses they do when animating with the limited number of assets.
Fuck the buffalo, fuck the injuns, and fuck the abbos. You lost, brown boys.
