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Bots corner:

>Blossomforth
>>43262264
>Sea Swirl, Sassaflash, Caramel and Noteworthy
>>43259800

Art corner:

Chrissy & Co >>43260956

Screenshots corner:

Sunbutt >>43242180
Wings? >>43244023
Chilling >>43244584
Cool Life >>43248912
Mint >>43248989
Cute AB >>43249550
Two Marshmallows >>43250807

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Pony Loaf >>43251334, >>43251432
Gemini 3.5 Tests >>43252255, >>43252260
Rule Number 1 >>43252272
Thinking of Celestia >>43252259
Marelet >>43252813
Fillies Magnet >>43253500
Orphan Scoot >>43257852

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Being Her First >>43259161
Lewd >>43260446
No Context >>43265051

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VN Anchor:

Godot Versions:
>Windows
>Main files + Data folder
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1OEiMXN7o_QG32shGnqmy0QndVDT6nYbF/view?usp=sharing
>Main files only
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Fhe-OeIlNIYFFGx2FlnpuxcIkYdOFGh2/view?usp=sharing
>Linux
>Main files + Data folder
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Vszzn8TTfXFWSQeKiFdNAAQGXfcReTJ3/view?usp=sharing
>Main files only
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1LPlIstcgQjyXqhOl4L_ZqMPeUQW5Xn2-/view?usp=sharing
>Android (Beta)
>APK + Data folder
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1WB08tguZa1PD1frJKdo7IxlGsp4XR0Wp/view?usp=sharing
>APK only
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1nPOSGufXi_-PjmjaKES9waJ6HZZOcL9V/view?usp=sharing

Ren'py:
https://equestrai-ponyponyparadise.neocities.org/

Bug reports or requests:
https://scrumboy.com/je1fqcsj

Nightmare AU (Renpy/Godot)
https://equestrai-ponyponyparadise.neocities.org/mods#nightmareMod

G5 Worldmap
https://equestrai-ponyponyparadise.neocities.org/mods#g5Mod

Anons' mods (Dashie mod, Nightmare AU, new cities, Calendar):
https://equestrai-ponyponyparadise.neocities.org/mods

Custom characters:
https://equestrai-ponyponyparadise.neocities.org/characters

To help with vectors and backgrounds:
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1QjmLKy71FDa9O-USeD_Z1Fu312RaodAE

VN logs:

Bump >>43240236
Too Quiet >>43241521
Ponyp >>43241567
Memories >>43243385
Twilewd Sparkle >>43245533
Poor Luna >>43246507
Dahlia >>43246775
Fooo >>43247735
Magical Singing >>43248012

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Patient Zero >>43248428
Sleeping with Celestia >>43249924, >>43250057
EEE >>43253995
Going Easy >>43254548
Loverboy >>43256149
Tinishy >>43256192, >>43256207, >>43256220

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Market >>43256366
Putting on a Show >>43257027
Whoopsie Daisies! >>43258418
Golden Feather Oopsie >>43258437
We >>43258916
Ticks >>43262033
Gemma 4 E4B >>43263196
Nimmy Trolling >>43263582
ANYTHING >>43264694

Are github downlaods supposed to be slow? Silly Tavern does not want to download.

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MAD >>43266831
Sweet Ponk >>43267385, >>43267386

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Guide for Newcomers:

Install SillyTavern:
github.com/SillyTavern/SillyTavern

Models and Explanations:
rentry.org/sukino-findings#if-you-want-to-use-an-online-ai

https://mlpchag.neocities.org/Ponies.txt

Hello.
Fuck corporats.
Mares for everyone.
Stallions by appointment.
Thank you for your attention.

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Lovemaking with AI mares!

>>43267965
It's pretty fast on my end.
Here is the last zipped version if needed.
https://u.pone.rs/ccfjvsvi.zip

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>>43267981

>>43267919
Are there any browser based AI stuff that are good and free? Used to try Character AI a few years ago, but I see it's shit now and I really don't want to go through the hassle of setting everything up for Silly Tavern.

>>43268048
Because GLM can be JB'd with a simple prompt, I've been using the z.ai website and not even bothering with API. You don't even need to sign up if you don't mind the auth token expiring every 24 hours and wiping your chat. Won't work with the VN, but it's free and unlimited.

>>43268095
>Won't work with the VN
Should work with this if you want to bother.
https://github.com/LyubomirT/intense-rp-next

>>43268095
z.ai doesn't have characters. It's just a normal chatbot. I just want to do rp with pony bots, ideally for fetish stuff

>>43268048
Nope.

>>43268108
Yeah, I dunno what they were thinking with that.
>needs to login to z.ai to be usable
>having a login gives you access to the free API, which eliminates the need for this program
If it worked without a login it would actually be useful, but as it is I don't understand the point of using this over ST.

>>43267622
>Most AI has extreme issues with understanding that only one character knows something. You can have a character say something in the middle of nowhere with no one around, and every character will know what they said. Secrets and mysteries are something LLMs have problems with.
With opus 4.6 it just works. I assume because of the good context recall. After 100k context length it starts being a bit wonky, but it's a good reminder to summarize. I hope the new versions return to the context awareness of 4.6
Also if you use <!-- hiddentext --> html tags you can have it hide things from you the reader. Doesn't work 100% of course, but good enough.

>>43268248
Hearty kek

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>>43268248

>>43268248
Hot.

>character description has any hint of being smart
>Gemini makes them talk like some fucking hyper purple prose android scientist no matter what
i do the trick. i know not to put the word "intelligent" specifically anywhere in the defs. but the dumbass model still does that.

>>43268248
Damn, I really should be using the narrator tab more for the VN

>>43268272
There's some noise about an LLM solving a hard math problem, but that's autistic.
AGI will be ready once it has good taste in RP.

>>43268248
impressive range though

Is it better to have your summary as the first message of your context or having a lore book about it? (Both methods would be hiding the summarized messages)

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I liked this little moment

>>43268347
I remember chat history at a depth of 3-4 being good.
https://rentry.org/how2claude#summarization
https://rentry.org/how2claude#where-do-you-put-your-summary

>>43268248
What model?

The limitations of AI are really bumming me out. I keep coming up against all the things it just can't do yet.
When will AI be good?

>>43268545
Potentially never, but it's also possible that brand new techniques will come around and make the current limitations a thing of the past. It's likely we're not going to say any huge progress for at least a few years though.

>>43268367
But that would just take away attention from where the scene is currently at. If your summary is 200 words fine, but anything big inserted that low will just have bad consequences.

>>43268552
I don't really agree with you on that
Ai has improved tremendously in the last few years, and while there's a lot of doom posting about it and yes progress has been overall getting slower, there is progress made

I guess it goes down to what you define as huge progress, but I'm sure small things being invented can have a huge ripple effect and wind up having a tremendous impact

Personally my only concern is that the good stuff will end up so expensive nobody outside companies would realistically pay for it

Like if Claude 5.1 will be $100/m tokens

>>43268582
The big thing is that we've been in a massive funding wave and the moment investors get seriously gunshy you have to expect progress to slow to a crawl. I have no read on the economy anymore, that could happen several years from now or it could happen next week, but economic downturns historically always cause problems for Silicon Valley.

I thought maybe it be fixed if I slept on it but I'm still getting errors. Googling isn't helping but I'm getting 400 bad request errors with opus 4.7 from the chink openrouter which I keep fearing it's going to die.

Is there a reason the AI takes longer to output in the VN than on Silly? Using Deepseek if that matters

>>43268840
Significantly more input, were I to guess.

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>>43266831
>>43267033
>>43267138
My bad. I'll swap out the Posey with the bad teeth in the next G5 pack update.
By the way I'm still planning on contributing to G4 content. I've been recently gathering images for new and improved Ponyville locations. I'm doing my best to go beyond the boorus by editing svgs, compositing ponies out of screenshots from the yayponies 4k upscale, and using AI to remove characters when needed. I'll try to get what I'm working on to a playable state soon.
>>43267954
For G4 contributions I want to approach it in a simple as possible way for VN Anon. I don't care about any kind of credit or jerking myself off with a mega pack mod. Anything I contribute should be seen as something you can take piecemeal, integrate to the base game in whole or part, modify in any way, or ignore entirely.
For now, here's a simple pack for some updated backgrounds anyone can install. Includes pic related, 2d CMC clubhouse, and a re-cropped picnic area (retaining full quality).
https://u.pone.rs/gmwqqrgc.zip

>>43268866
I did the same thing for a bunch of the backgrounds in the Nightmare AU. But if you're going full ponyville. I wish you good luck. Seriously.

>>43268048
Agnai (and Risu if it still exists?) are both browser based and you can both import characters into them and pretty easily find decent enough models to hook up to them for free.

>>43268866
Nice!

Okay is the 400 error something that is obvious and me asking for help just proves I'm too dumb to understand

>>43269111
400 error means the server rejected your request. It could be a number of things from context(unlikely) to a censorship rejection(probably more likely).

>>43269151
I was getting messages without issue then all of a sudden it started happening. Changing the keys did nothing am I shit out of luck then?

>>43269173
What're you using for your model/service/front end? You're not SOL you just have some debugging to do probably. Honestly if it just started happening out of the blue it could be the model is overloaded by requests from users right now and started rejecting them.

>>43269189
Using the Chinese openrouter for opus, 4.6 and 4.7 both are getting the same errors on Sillytavern for 12+ hours. I fear it's the Chinese openrouter because cheaper generation is too good of a thing to last.

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>>43269286
I don't know which one you are using, but this one is working fine for me.

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>>43269286
If you're using 4.7, Claude itself is shitting itself apparently.
https://status.claude.com/

>>43269318
Since I'm waiting, what's the difference with the "-r" versions? I'm pretty sure it stands for reasoning but I'm not aware of what that means.
>>43269324
God damn it. You must believe me that I have been constantly checking if Claude was down before asking for help only for the most recent test to be right now. It wasn't working even when 4.7 wasn't down. To make myself not go insane, if it starts working right after 4.7 is back up then I'll believe Claude was down this entire time and just wasn't reported making me attempt to open what is essentially a locked door that has a "open" sign out front.

Well I was still having issues but there's two options for each model on the Chinese openrouter and the one with a Chinese character in brackets is working. I tested it before but Claude was probably down. I never had to use it before now but whatever. Times like this makes me miss all of the previous givers of tokens. So much headache is solved and hopefully one will show up again, ideally with a better way of not dying maybe.

>>>/g/108923420
Add .com, you will need to trial scum

>>43268420
Deepseek V4 Pro.
>>43268366
What were the tough times that fingering helped you with?

Seems vibecoded, but it does have stuff that could be useful if you want to have a look.
https://github.com/Supker/ST-Copilot

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>>43269286
>>43269324
4.8 was spotted on Claude Code, so it may be why current Opus is sometimes shitting itself.

>>43269741
I bet it’s going to be another downgrade compared to 4.6 and 4.7, even when 4.7 was not that good to begin with.

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>>43267928
>>43269741
Opus 4.8
https://openrouter.ai/anthropic/claude-opus-4.8

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>>43269932
And Mythos Soon™

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Not that it's worth using, but looks like ChinkAPI added some Groks.

>>43269932
And now, I patiently wait for Applejackanon’s review

>>43269932
I mean this as neutrally as possible but for the purposes of AI mare use who gives a flying fuck what the little bullshit tests they put these models through say?
>Spungus is 0.12th of a percent better at affirmative agentic agent action than ToyotaLLMrola
Wonderful. Does that mean Fluttershy is cuter with this model or not? Does it make it harder to resist the sirens call of Rarrar ponut?

>>43270019
Some benchmemes can be sort of useful. For instance, Anthropic themselves found that Opus 4.7 was a regression in long context compared to 4.6, and it's observable in RP.
Otherwise, no, they are posted as a sort of ritual, but there is a reason we call them benchmemes.

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>>43270002
>>43269932
IMO, it's a weird model.
As always, I do tests with a small preset or none at all to see the default model tendency.
First, and maybe most interesting for most anons, I did tests to see its bias against the user, and for now it seems to be less biased than other Opus models.
I have a scenario with Red Seven to try that and see if she gobbles my attempts or not. Most Claude models do, or will have her hesitate or tell me to "Try to convince her."
Here she tells me to fuck off on all swipes.
See picrel and also other outputs:
https://u.pone.rs/klzhwcnk.png
https://u.pone.rs/nozulpmv.png
Swipe variety seems meh, alright for a nu-Claude model, but worse than Deepseek or others of course.
Next, I did the same test I did here:
https://desuarchive.org/mlp/thread/43193626/#43206395
Aka: Can enough context change the typical LLM writing and make it write less AI-like?
https://u.pone.rs/ceejtzds.png
And some of her other outputs:
https://u.pone.rs/zlaoohya.png
https://u.pone.rs/djqepidl.png
https://u.pone.rs/pxolskqt.png
As someone who used Claude a lot, I can still see these are Claude outputs, but I would say it's better than the absolute ism-riddled output it can give you without context.
AI detector is more or less stumped by them, whereas it will always detect 100% on low-context outputs.
https://u.pone.rs/rgzibsnz.png
https://u.pone.rs/nuatiypf.png
So not that great, but not that bad; seems better than 4.7 for that, but a bit worse than 4.6 IMO.

Now, at the start of chats or at very low context, it seems quite sloppy.
Here are the AJ tests I often do, which is a very fresh chat with not many messages inside.
https://u.pone.rs/ateuynwu.png
https://u.pone.rs/idfymmna.png
https://u.pone.rs/fpoqrufj.png
I will let you decide, but for me:
Many isms, bad variety, LLM writing quite telling, 100% detection on all.
https://u.pone.rs/yiyfyopi.png
(Just for info, I don't take those detectors as gospel. It's just to add to my observations. And in those cases, if this one detects 100% on an output, you can be sure it's indeed really LLM-pilled.)
Seems at the same level as 4.7 or even worse for this specific case.
Seems to love metaphors and similes more than other Claudes, but could be placebo; need more tests.
One other thing I observed: for more comical scenarios, at low context, it does seem to really go for a "Reddit/Marvel" style of writing. That's often present in some recent models but even more so here. I really hope it was this specific scenario that triggered that and that it's not something general; need more tests.

I can do vanilla NSFW with a very basic preset, but results were a bit underwhelming. At least I wasn't filtered.
I'm reading on other generals that some anons are getting filtered with the same presets they used before, so YMMV. I don't do foalcon, so I can't judge on that.

Prefills are still dead. RIP.

>>43270407
Again, I'm just a single retard, so don't take this as gospel.
As a summary, I would say that the model could be somewhat worthwhile if they fixed the context issue they had with 4.7 and returned to 4.6 level or better.
Otherwise, no.

>>43269562
Can't use a proton email, trial only lasts around 6 messages. I love Claude but this source is one of the weakest ones.

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>>43268545
AI is amazing, actually.
I know how you feel and I have felt that way before. But recently I've thought about our entire journey starting with CAI back in September 2022, or hell, even AI Dungeon before that. We've come a long way in less than 4 years. Don't let Capability Grief blind you to this.
It's great that I have models that can (not counting Gemini) portray my waifu in a surprisingly accurate manner so I can engage in all manner of antics with her.
It's great that I have tools that allow me to set up scenarios where me and my waifu happen to have complimentary kinks and have a fulfilling marriage. Or where she's evil and >I can fix her or make her worse.
It's great I can play scenarios from moments of the show, affect them and see the results.
It's great I can bring my fanon interpretations of background ponies, or some main characters, to life.
It's great I can play my underrated and underserved fetishes with AI mares
It's great I can run my autistic crossovers with cute mares.
It's great I can write down my 20,000 word worldbuilding project and see my setting and characters explored.
It's great I was able to make friends with people who are as interested on AI RP as I am.
It's great that I no longer have to search online for a tool to "do X online", and can have an AI agent code it for me in 5 minutes.
It's great that I can have an AI agent update a lot of abandonware for me while I focus on other things. Minecraft or Rimworld mod not updated since 2018? Not anymore.
It's great that I can be part of a community of people who enjoy AI mares like I do.
All of this, and it is almost guaranteed to get better in the future? Man do I love AI.

>>43268582
>Like if Claude 5.1 will be $100/m tokens
This will only be a temporary issue. I'd say Deepseek V4 is closer to Claude 3 than any other model. The chinks are actively making Claude accounts and running millions of conversations to steal Claude's outputs for training. If Claude 5.1 comes out I'd say a year or two later a Chinese equal will come out for a way cheaper price.

>>43270437
i can agree with this but i prefer k2.6 without thinking to dsv4

>>43270430
You can use Proton to spam GitHub accounts, but yeah, you will have better sources by reading the newcomers' anchor post.

>>43270418
You're saying this to imply you haven't done enough long-context shit yet to know whether they did?

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>>43270448
Didn't test it enough yet. On Silly, I often do summaries or new sessions, so I don't have anything that goes above 30-40K.
Doing tests on them wouldn't be that good or representative IMO.
I could merge some of them to see, but too lazy.
If you believe Anthropic, they fixed it, but RP tests would be better.

Now that I think about it, I do believe I have something that could serve as a test but in the VN. I will check.

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>>43270448
>>43270455
I was at less context than I thought, so it won't be a good test either.
Only thing I can confirm is that they use the same tokenizer as 4.7, where it counts you more tokens than before.

>>43270407
Thank you anon!

>>43269932
I think I prefer 4.6 over it

>>43270437
Oh hell fucking yeah Anon, that's the kind of positivity I love. Huge agree, everything about this journey has been magical. I was one of the fucks who subscribed to AI Dungeon back when, too; not only that, I was obsessed with Google Deep Dreams years prior. This is one of my favorite hobbies and it's wonderful what it's become.

The tech is bound to only get better, too.

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i like thr rgre cards because it's mares fighting to be bouncing on my cock but the pampering crap gets annoying real fast i need to write my own card where ponies are just addicted to the user for some bullshit reason

>>43270963
The standard AiE card is pretty much that. If you do end up making a card please remember to share it here.

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>>43270963
>it's mares fighting to be bouncing on my cock
>are just addicted to the user for some bullshit reason
This is probably the easiest thing to get with AI, here are some ways:
Add to your persona smell. A pleasant manly smell like smoked woods or whatever. Models are trained on female romanceslop and those stories love smells.
Add stuff to the world info that says mares love human cock. This is an entry I have used for years:
>Gender(Human male)=Traits: High stamina+large,smooth+thick virile cocks; cum=virile+thick; Taller>stallions; Foreplay-capable hands; Cock size~stallions(slightly<avg) but fully insertable(stallions=50% usable); Mares=Aroused; Predator aura arouses mares);
If you wanna play on the whole "human stamina and human cock make stallions inferior in bed":
>Gender(Male ponies/Stallions)=Inferior(humans>stallions): Bed+stamina+performance; Commonly cucked+jealous(humans). Cock=size>=human(½ usable only); Anatomy=limit balls-deep; Evolution=quick-ejaculation(not pleasure); Avg duration:30s.
And if you want to just go full human'd:
>Human'd=Pony mares=subjugated/dominated by human males. Corrupted(embrace human superiority/domination). Extreme devotion. Owned by virile human cocks: Hard fucked+marked(human hands over cutie marks/coat+mane as human flag). Symbol=interspecies domination(apex predator conquest+nation/species betrayal). Permanent state(Once Human'd=Always Human'd).

>>43271006
i didn't plan on making human'd, more like mares liking the user for example because of the smell as you mention or a spell, so that the user can choose whether to chat as an anonpony or a human with their selected persona
but now that you mention it, i don't think i've seen a card of your human'd description anywhere. i'll try looking at both of these and if all goes well, share here

>>43271056
That's because it's my first time sharing it. I never made a card or shared anything because I never saw any demand or request for it.

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>>43267954
I have a question for VN anon about the Ponyville map "mod" I made. Today I did some more edits to create generalized hot spots like "Food & Drink" where multiple related locations can be merged now that it's supported in game. I also matched the font size and boldness almost identically with the current map.
Would you be interested in making this the default map in the core game once it's polished to yours and other anons' liking?
Like I mentioned in
>>43268866
I am working on gathering new and missing interior/exterior locations for Ponyville. I'm working off of this new map to wire everything up but if you're not interested in eventually moving to this new map, I can plan on making secondary .jsons that would work with the current Ponyville map.
If you or any other anons have any thoughts on this WIP map let me know, and I can make any requested changes.
>My own thinking
Cranky's house without a label in the bottom left is arbitrary but I do have interior and exterior images made for his house. I was thinking it combined with the fall colored leaves could be used used as a hotspot for running of the leaves locations (though I haven't planned any at the moment). If Cranky's house is an eyesore, I could remove it and just have a bigger fall tree hotspot.
Sweetie Belle's house is also arbitrary and unlabeled. I have Sweetie Belle's bedroom and the exterior of the house in progress.
Flower shop is arbitrary but is canonically left of SCC. It's a good filler location that could easily be replaced if something better comes up in the future.
Unsure about labels for Food & Drink, Residential, Goods & Services. Let me know if anyone has any other preferences for what to call them.
I'm not a fan of Horsepital over Hospital, personally.
The residential hotspot doesn't fit any locations the base game right now. I'm thinking the Ponyville streets location from the downloadable locations would be good to upgrade to a core location as the default for this spot. For my WIP locations, I'm going to link Scootaloo's bedroom and Vinyl/Octavia's house to this spot but those might be better off as downloadable locations.
Everfree forest is more of a placeholder. It would be nice to have custom art for it though I want to focus on getting actual locations done.
Ultimately the art style of the map is so simple that anyone should be able to take over in the future. I will release another full individual layer breakdown when I finish the locations I'm currently working on.

>>43270407
It's grim.
>still uses it

>>43267931
Anybody know where to find the lore books abbreviated in these posts:
>>43270963
>>43270981

I don't see them on the sites listed in the OP so I must be missing a repo somewhere.

>>43271324
Is this a joke or a troll post?
But anyway.
RGRE: Reverse Gender Role Equestria
Both lorebook and cards are on the Neocities.
AIE: Anon in Equestria
There is a card, but almost all cards can be AIE if you play as Anon.

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>>43271331
I am the joke.

>>43270963
That's odd. In my experience, rather than the model leaning into pampering {{user}}, it always seemed to err the way of battered housewife (or househusband in this case) for RGRE.

>>43271379
That probably says your preset's better at getting ponies to express negative emotions than that anon's. Either that or it's a model difference.

No matter what lorebook or degenerate scenario I use, every single time without fail it evolves into a regular vanilla relationship with Pinkie Pie. I just can't stop loving this mare

>>43271405
Good, feed your heart and not your loins.

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>>43271214
>Would you be interested in making this the default map in the core game once it's polished to yours and other anons' liking?
I have no problem with that in theory. The only reason I had it as a mod is for anons who prefer the more minimalist map still, since that can be a lot of noise on screen. I myself play with the "mod."
Maybe make a poll once it's out to see what the preferred default is?
I could try to have an option in game to easily switch too, but I need to see since it will touch JSON and such.

Thanks a lot for your work, by the way.

>>43267954
>>43271420
Reposting the mod too, since I haven't put it on the Neocities yet.

>>43247494

>>43271420
>The only reason I had it as a mod is for anons who prefer the more minimalist map still
Based. I didn't want to be a fag and vocalize it, but I prefer the default map with just the hot air balloon added. The locations are well-spaced, and I feel like my eyes can move around it more naturally. The extra locations on the modded map are a cool idea, but they feel too cluttered to me.

>>43271379
it always plays some role, but i sometimes got into stories where the char tried taking care of me similarly to a child. it's decided on the start i guess

Probably quantized, but OR has a free version of Kimi 2.6
https://openrouter.ai/moonshotai/kimi-k2.6:free

>>43271812
Precious