Come one and all to the meta-writefag and help raise the quality of MLP fanfiction! Featuring: It just a tool, you guys, I swear!ITT: Remember not to give up, Sunset's veiny purple fifth leg, Rainbow Dash kisses mares and dies, Rainbow Dash kisses mares and lives, biographies about being a pathetic loser, extensive belly button fetishisms, spoonfeeding is my fetish, Luna has train-tism, regularly fucking Starlight to save Equestria, Twilight hates Latinos, and the site is broken again!>/fimfic/ Secret Book ClubThe one hundred and seventy-sixth book is: The Unrequited Thespian + Measuring Up to My Marefriend:https://www.fimfiction.net/story/578488/the-unrequited-thespianhttps://www.fimfiction.net/story/589572/measuring-up-to-my-marefriendIf (You) want to participate, read the whole story by Sunday, June 7th.>Recommended stories:Tired of adventures that meander for a million words? Fed up with super special OCs? Well, we've compiled the best of the worst in order to bring you our absolute average!New Starter Kit - http://mlpficreviews.org.uk/starter/Old Starter Kit - http://i.imgur.com/vuTA7EN.png (embed)>Common fic abbreviations used by the thread:https://ponepaste.org/7317>A list of reviews made by the Anons in this thread:http://www.mlpficreviews.org.ukUse the commands ">review <story link>" and ">discuss <story link>" to add reviews to a story.Userscript for extra features: https://ponepaste.org/8619>An in-depth writing guide for beginners:https://eznguide.neocities.org/>Additional material for authors:Rhorse's Horse Behavioral Notes - https://ponepaste.org/932Politics and the English Language - https://www.orwell.ru/library/essays/politics/english/e_polit/Vhatug's tips for anatomically correct clop - https://poneb.in/g4VpEg4fPurdue Online Writing resources: https://owl.purdue.edu/owl/index.html and https://owl.purdue.edu/owl/subject_specific_writing/creative_writing/writers/index.html>Can you pre-read my story?Post it on Google Docs or HackMD with comments enabled and give us a link.>Various reviews and riffs:Fillyanon's Bookshelf - https://ponepaste.org/5555Notkickass222urmom's Reviews - https://pastebin.com/u/notkickass222urmomIHeartShinzakura's Reviews - https://ponepaste.org/user/IHeartShinzakuraAppleanon reads fics - https://poneb.in/wmGX7FPmDeluxe Big Master Review List - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1z9Bz7UnEbxo-svlXa2tV49PJkP-yFuR7pRXiBUn-IeUA Guide to Rational Fics - https://files.catbox.moe/3jzrfm.png (embed)Previous Thread: >>43249985
>On the other hand, Kassaz’s writing style is kind of bland. There’s no effort to generate the atmosphere that would be needed to make this kind of story work, either as pornography or as a horror.
>>43284856>expecting good writing from a fetishist
Tuna is gross. Twilight should just go away and let Mooney be with me.
2+2th for best 2uo!Enjoy this conveniently packaged Tuna: https://www.fimfiction.net/story/224306/i-watch-the-moon
>>43284876Twilight should get wholesomely impregnated by the bat pony guard Luna insisted on giving to her.
>>43284952Fixed that pesky thing in the corner
>>43285057Nuh uh, you misspelled purple and she's supposed to be there.
>>43285278Any good fics about Mac forced into a fatherly role at a young age?
>>43285564https://www.fimfiction.net/story/66372/her-brother-doesnt-talk-much
>>43284167I've tried plenty. No success.
>>43285646Oh, neat. Thanks.
https://www.fimfiction.net/story/591339/preserves>be me>realized there aren't any stories I can think of that pair Granny and Celestia>new GrannyxCelestia story is one of the first results when I checkCoincidence? Obviously yes. I don't even know if it is good yet.
>>43286068To me it kind of works as a ship, at least in terms of something interested to explore. You see a lot of stuff of the alicorns outliving their friends and lovers, you don't really see it when said friends or lovers are super old. Mostly because geezer sex is gross.
>missed the prompting loser's posts last threadSad.>>43284856>>43284858I just think he didn't care for the story, but even then, I'm getting better. I recently finished the longest chapter I've written so far at 7,808 words, and it really wasn't that long, but I wrote it in less time and with less hardship than I've written stuff a quarter of that length. Most of it's not even fetishistic, just Twilight having an episode.Thanks for thinking about me; I'll keep working hard to improve.
>seven HiEs and an EqG in the boxI don't know why I even bother looking anymore.>>43284856>either as pornographyUnless the reviewer (I'm assuming it's the Paul guy) has the fetish, it is incredibly hard to tell what the correct "atmosphere" is that's needed to arouse its intended audience. It's almost assuredly a shit horror fic, though. I've yet to encounter or write a fetish fic that was able to flawlessly both do its fetish and the actual plot that was being dragged along.>>43286068>anthro cover art for a pony ficA rare reversal of that one anon's problem.
>>43286114I think you make it a Celestia POV or nake it a flashback to make broaden the appeal. Family Appreciation Day also makes me thinks it works as a flashback. The only hurdle is deciding if younger Granny Smith would have a different name or not.
>>43286643Ponify Maria Ann.
Which horsewords authors do this?
>>43286825Ask LLMs for writing advice? Everyone, if we're being honest.
>>43286829Hey, it's not writing advice. It's looking up trivia on highly specific subject matter that comes up in my story, which would be extremely difficult to google and for which I previously would just have to mostly wing it/infer details from vague info available online and risk exposing that I am a hack writing about something I have no practical experience with.
>>43286829>>43286837I just use it for Latin and Ye Olde English so people think I'm smarter than I really am.
>>43286837I mean, it is googling, with extra steps and spicy hallucinations. If the answer is truly difficult to google, a chat bot will never find it.
>>43286892Yeah, but consider that a chat bot can come up with more plausible-sounding bullshit than a layman.
>>43286892>If the answer is truly difficult to google, a chat bot will never find it.You underestimate how bad Google is these days. You're right for free models, but Claude has saved my ass a few times at work by digging up blogs that were hard to find even when I went looking for them later on.
>>43286829>t. slop “writer”
>>43286829I only use LLMs for highly questionable rp.
>>43286986You are literally me
>http://xahlee.info/emacs/emacs/emacs_abbrev_mode.htmlI still have no idea how anon finds this useful for his fics.
>>43286998I considered Emacs for my fanfics before deciding Obsidian was enough.
>>43286999>ObsidianNever tried it. As far as I can see, it's closed source worse Org Mode and the only benefit is that it integrates with shit like your phone.
>>43286986I swear GPT has given me a fetish for reddit writing.
>>43287013The thing I hate most about it is how it constantly shits out random silly details every five seconds when describing stuff. Like its idea of worldbuilding is to namedrop concepts without following through on them.
Hey writefags, please, I seek your aid.The original thread is circling the drain, but I beg you to preserve this shitty idea.>43285852>The face when you as the immortal monarch of the land.>Do the whole emperors new cloths thing as a lewd exhibitionist prank.>Oh shit, ponies don't question it, they copy you instead.>Fashion makes "how to look good with little" the new trend.>Some overly loyal but quack scientists spark rumors that cloths can make you sick in anything more than odd accessories.>Thisisgettinghot.PNG>Sister doesn't play along however, insisting on full regalia and armor.>Shirts vs skins becomes the main social strife of the age.>Nightmare moon happens!>Now to stay fully dressed is akin to treason.>I'm in too deep.>Can't turn back now, ponies died in that war, all because of a joke.>lockIn.mp4>After a few hundred years ponies forget being dressed was ever a thing.>But you remember,>Pepperidge farm remembers.Extra thought, 1000 moons later, Sis is back, cloths gone due to moon dust wear and tare +1 rainbow lazer. Now you have to explain to reformed teenage sister that she now is the weird one, and that she has to stay stripped or be suss?Can someone make this a real greentext, seems like a fun premise.Can one of you turn this into an actual piece of comedy fiction? The idea got lodged in my brain and won't leave me alone, but I'm dyslexic as hell and write like a concussed toddler. There's no way I can do it justice myself.Please. Someone with actual talent, take a crack at it.
>>43287234Sounds like you're halfway there already, bud.
>>43287234You already did it. You told a complete story with a beginning, middle, and end. It has a plot arc and characterization. It doesn’t need anything more.If you want to expand it, though, that’s fine too. But that’s going to have to be your job, because nobody else knows what’s in your head. Even if you try to explain, it’s not going to come out the way you want unless you do it yourself.
>my talent for planning out scenes in my head and essentially prewriting them so I just need to type them out is a direct result of my tendency to overly plan and mentally rehearse conversations as a coping mechanism for my strain of 'tism
>>43287709>my talent for planning out scenes in my head and essentially prewriting themYou meanAn outline?
Guys does anyone else write down all the characters, dialogue, scenes, and the plot of your story before you start writing it?
>>43287810I usually try to get my stories proofread before I start writing them.Just to be sure.
>>43287802No. I don't really ever have a proper outline beyond a vague mental idea of where I want to go which is inherent and almost coinciding with having an idea for a story. I mentally type out scenes word by word and line by line and figure out what works while doing other stuff and then I just copy the results on the page.
>>43287810Pretty much, yeah. It’s worked for me so far. With the proviso that things often change after I start writing them, and for some stories I don’t go back and change the outline to make it consistent. If the story is short then it’s not worth the trouble.
I can't tell if this discussion is ironic or not
>>43286998It's just autocorrect. You type "equ" and it'll autocorrect it to "Equestria", "ts" becomes "Twilight Sparkle", etc. If you have a lot of long words, nouns, etc. it can cut down on typing time. Of course, in something like Word, it's a nice and easy find/replace UI and you don't have to make a fucking notepad code file you save in the file directory. Reason #86863 why people will let Microsoft rape them instead of using FOSS.>>43286999>uses MarkdownThe inability to natively center or right align text baffles me. This is something printing presses in the 1600s were able to do. Who doesn't include such basic text editing features in their markup language?
>>43288123I didn't think of or realize that.
>>43288123>typing something else as a shorthand Programmingshit that's poisonous to your ability to actually write properly.
>>43287810I usually wordvomit a long summary of how I want it to go, then follow that when I start actually writing. The final story almost always ends up being very different from the summary but it’s nice to have a general idea of where I want things to go.
So, I've finished another commissioned chapter, and now I'm finally working on a story I started in late 2024 and didn't touch much in 2025. How's your writing going? I've got a commissioner who loves Eris, so I've been thinking about her more than I expected; I no longer think I'll just finish up my current stories and then leave her be for a while.
>>43288684I've been working on a Shiboyugi ripoff/fixfic.
Living the 5'11" life in,>/FSBC/Size difference fags are eating good today. I think the writer enjoyed himself far too much writing this, especially the sequel. Or perhaps exactly enough, because yeah, it was fun. Can't blame Celestia for having a (good) type.Honestly, though, I believe the fic is just kind of quite good. Kind of like last week's fic in that it's not trying to be an epic adventure or over-the-top emotional drama. I know I say that a lot whenever we see a nice non-adventure oneshot, but I think it's important to recognize when SoL'y fics are good, too.Kind of reminded me of Twice as Bright a few times because of Celestia and the similar tone of the fic. It was an enjoyable read no matter how you look at it, I think. The grammar is good (I've spotted a handful of slip-ups, but the fic is written well enough to make me question my error-spotting instincts), and more importantly, the cozy romance mood is conveyed nicely. It's nice that both of these fics are more or less centered on a single event instead of trying to develop the full romance story of these two ponies—it gives the stories the time they need to get into Coco's head and not rush the pacing. The early parts of the first fic also do a good job establishing the setting, avoiding the common SoL+Romance issues of two ponies sitting in an empty room with set dressing. The fic is very funny when it tries to be, too, without getting unfunny and tiring like [Comedy]. The box, kek.Obviously, the specter of the Adversary hangs over the fic. I actually made it like 20 pages in before realizing it's not meant to be an AU, but rather H*ber's nightmare setting. I'd like to say that it's understandable in the context of the story the author wanted to write (2x Bright used Pinkie's Pinkieness to work around the issue of the crown, but Coco would have a harder time), but it still made me frown at the memory whenever the fic drew attention to h*ber's seasons. The worst was when the sequel randomly has Gallus show up. Gross. Notably, though, I was very impressed that he managed to work one of the show's worst episodes into a central plot of a good story. I alluded to this before, but a good romance fic must have good characterizations. This one does deliver. More so for Celestia, who, in a stroke of meta-level irony, steals the spotlight from the cute designer a lot. Not in a bad way and certainly not maliciously, but she's obviously the more interesting character, and her actions and implied thoughts are very nice and very Celestia. Coco is, indeed, very cute, however! Also a shout-out to Luna, who does what Lunas are wont to do and steals the spotlight from her sister in turn. I enjoyed the integration of the 'contemporary' idioms. The M6 in the first were rather decorative, and I'm not really sure why that one scene is even there.So, I liked it quite a lot! It joins 2xBright, K'awka, and the marble-minuette fic as the fourth champion of the cozy SoL Romance sub-genre for me.
>>43289210This story is fine. It doesn't feel like it quite gets there in terms of cuteness for me, but that could be an artifact of the pairing. Overall, it reads a bit like a first draft where things don't quite line up in the way I expect or take a roundabout path to get there which gets annoying (I wanted to give up at the corruption of the Ship of Theseus). Considering that it was written for a contest that makes sense, though I wish some parts were expanded on like the idea of being a beginner at something. I admit that it was hard for me at points to accept that Celestia, as old as she is, wouldn't understand that being a beginner means being shit at something until you build up skills. At least just make her angry that she isn't performing as well as she thinks she should (which is alluded to at one point but mostly fizzles out), or have her acknowledge that she forgot what it was like to be a beginner.Big!Twilight and Celestia writing an autistic amount of notes on her interests are excellent, though.I couldn't be bothered to read the second fic since that seemed like just 13k of relationship issues with the same meandering writing as the first, but I'll probably come back to it when I get bored at work.
>>43289210TUT>Celestia hiding in a fake rockkek, and very good scene. Especially for setting the tone early>Celestia the thirty something librarianHot>coco is celestia's clippy>Celestia wants to stop practicing>coco: nonono keep going, keep professing your love for me. I mean Longshore. You're doing much better!>"Y-you're bigger than Celestia now."Fucking KEK. The Unrequited Thespian was very good. Seemed very pony and lighthearted. I really liked Coco lowering Celestia's disguise and then just checking again. Also Celestia's confession was nice. Very cute.MutmM>coco getting swept away in the current of covers and getting dragged into cuddles>coco needs magical scaffolding to dress up Celestiakek, I instantly pictured the kerbals walking around the catwalks when building a rocket in ksp>climbing her special kitchen steps onto the counter top>twilight is turning into a giraffe>Coco found herself surrounded by a forest on all sides.>Luna summons the royal doorframe of height measurementFucking kek>A/Ns keep calling me lonelyBrutal. This story is a bit different than TuT. It gets a bit ridiculous but I guess thats part of the fun or the fetish. Needing steps to get onto the kitchen counter to peer into a bowl is crazy, and certainly not the same size we were at in the first fic. It kinda reads like Fae was forced to not write about a foal so he just wrote about a foal sized mare dating a huge mare so he could get the same scenes. Also if Twilight was getting huge, wouldn't Tia and Luna have been shrinking? Anyways, I did like it quite a bit. Luna was great and I really liked the metaphors that came from Coco being much smaller than the world she's in. That said, there is definitely an undertone of fetishism to this that didn't exist in the first one (perhaps until you've read the 2nd one) and it does sort of spoil it a little bit I think. TuT is a much more normal fic. Also both fics were good and funny so of course [Comedy] is no where to be seen
>>43289210I read the first fic when it came out and didn’t reread it, so my memory may be faulty. I remember it being solid, with a nice concept and reliable execution. I don’t remember it making me particularly excited, but I do seem to have left an upvote.I didn’t like the second fic, which just seems to be an extended shitpost on the theme of “lol smol Coco.” It felt pointless. Well-executed for what it was, but it wasn’t much. I appreciate that hat it tried to give Coco some angst over being less than (in a literal way) her marefriend, but the resolution of that was just “she is a fetish sex toy and likes it.” Which really did nothing for me.
>>43289210>I think the writer enjoyed himself far too much writing this, especially the sequel.Certainly true in the sequel>The grammar is good (I've spotted a handful of slip-upsI only really noticed a couple at about the last 20% of the 2nd fic, which is weird. Maybe the very last part didn't get proofed or something>It's nice that both of these fics are more or less centered on a single eventYeah, it was nice and to the point (which is just playing around in the SoL zone)>without getting unfunny and tiring like [Comedy]kek yup>The worst was when the sequel randomly has Gallus show up. Gross.Yeah, kind of a jump scare when they look out of the train's window>Also a shout-out to Luna, who does what Lunas are wont to do and steals the spotlight from her sister in turn.Absolutely, the characters were great and Luna stole the show for pretty much the whole tea party>and the marble-minuette fic>Luna steals the show here>Limestone steals the show thereHmmmm>>43289221Interesting that you bounced off it this hard. It's just a cute mare doing cute things and a beeg mare that likes cute mares. And I think the story did spend time on being a beginner. Celestia specifically says she's embarrassed and also wouldn't want to actually be a beginner with any group of ponies since she thinks it might ruin their groups or careers. And I think she also doesn't really know how to build up her skills since she is the former princess and ponies have trouble critiquing her.Anyways, you missed out on the 2nd fic just quadrupling down on the size difference and Luna showing coco that Tia has a fetish.
>>43289221No love for fun-sized Coco? Calling it a first draft is imo pretty crazy. The 'roundabout way' is the fic, imo. Like, yes, you could expand (or trim) some of the parts, but I don't think it really matters to the story? The acting thing is mostly a pretense to get them to interact somewhere where Coco can show off her good side, but even so, I didn't feel like it was glossed over too much.>Ship of TheseusWould be the worst reference in the fic but Gallus materialized directly into the sequel just to take that bullet.>Celestia, as old as she is, wouldn't understandEh, it happens. She's extremely well-researched about the topic, so it's normal to feel like you're owed some minimum level of competence.>Big!Twilight and CelestiaSomehow neither of them is the best princess in this fic.>13k of relationship issues with the same meandering writingThe sequel is very different, actually. It's mainly about Coco being smol (ridiculously so), but also about her meeting Luna and the rest of pegacorns. There's comparatively less Celestia (by frequency, not volume). It's fun if you like the gimmick, although less of a "complete" romance fic than the first one.>>43289292>HotBetween this (and other Celestia descriptions) and the whole smol!Coco, the writer seems to know what he likes, ha ha.>The Unrequited Thespian was very goodAgreed, it was a nice ponyfic.>It gets a bit ridiculous but I guess thats part of the funOh, he definitely pulled out all the stops there: for fun (the box lmao), light emotional drama, and the appeal. Do keep in mind that the apartment was built-to-spec for specifically Celestia, so the kitchen counter is not at the usual height. Although the fic includes a few arguably more ridiculous scale moments, so you're not wrong. She's not foal-sized, though. Not THAT far, and that would be bad and not cute at all. The best comparison is when she's on Celestia and goes "huh, this is how foals feel on their parent's back", so in reality she's maybe like half a head shorter than most ponies. The measuring rod also registers her on the scale of normal ponies, just kinda very short compared to them, and therefore REALLY short compared to the big alabaster mare.>an undertone of fetishism to this Oh, definitely, and I'm not surprised it has 8 downboops. But it's like... more wholesome rather than gross? In this regard it's still not nearly as far gone as the (relatively nice) chapter our threadly pregbro wrote for last year's corpse, but kind of similar.And yes, Luna is great.>>43289310>It felt pointlessI think it's a worse story, but it was still fun and mostly cute. Angsty Coco and Luna carried much of it.
>>43289314>Interesting that you bounced off it this hardI didn't hate it or anything, it's just a classic case of me the reader wanting more depth on topics that the story simply doesn't have the time or space for.>the 2nd fic just quadrupling down on the size differenceHearing that the size_difference in the second fic leans more towards a comedic fetish angle does make me want to read it more.>>43289325It was just too much telling at points and I'm currently stuck in editing mode while working on my own project so that's likely bleeding through. I get that you have to move the story along sometimes, but I really hate stuff like "the news genuinely confused the alicorn" and "receiving such kind words from the former leader of Equestria burned Coco's face and ears red." Once every so often is fine, but when they come up enough for me to quickly scroll through and find two several paragraphs apart from each other is off-putting.
>>43289210What an adorable pair of stories!And ponies! It’s pretty dangerous to base a fic off of one of, if not the actual worst Celestia episodes in the show, and while I wish the fic had pulled a Triptych and just declared that Celestia can act, actually, it’s OK that it instead decided to capitalize so much on that one scene of Celestia dancing in place.Unrequited Thespian was pretty good. Besides all the entertaining sunny mare syndrome symptoms, the thing that struck me most about the story was how fast it went. It seemed like their first date conversation was quite heavy, certainly zooming through the character development.I was mildly annoyed that Celestia was apparently paying so much attention to Coco, but did not recognize that she was trying to step down as the organizer of the theater event. But, that and Celestia’s inability to act were pretty much the only downers for the whole story. Reading all of Coco’s unabashed praise for Sunbutt was a highlight througout.Measuring up was just silly. The author was clearly on a lark, and the portrayal of their difference in size completely leaves any attempt at show accuracy behind even from the cover art and description. Not[Comedy] fics keep winning here.The box and the forest metaphor were especially funny, and I like the idea that Celestia has a pool for a bath in her penhouse in every major city. The idea that she has a smol type is dumb, but Luna did a spectacular job delivering the punchline there. Overall, it was a very welcome surprise both to have Luna steal the show as she did, and also steal the relationship fixup from Cadence, due to her own intimate knowledge of Celestia’s proclivities.
>>43289210So, what are we reading next week?
>>43289386Agreed, yeah.>>43289771For once I didn't forget; I just have no idea tbdesu. I can throw a few fics off from the list, but I've been terribly busy these past couple weeks. I should populate the list some more soon(ish).https://www.fimfiction.net/story/92300/crisis-on-two-equestriashttps://www.fimfiction.net/story/375944/one-white-unicornhttps://www.fimfiction.net/story/57956/integration (possible gayfic [stallions] warning?)https://www.fimfiction.net/story/159465/brothers-and-sisters
>>43289807I'm for Crisis on two equestrias
>>43289807I reviewed Integration here, >>40158258 I don't know where you got the idea that it's M/M shipping. It would normally be good enough for a club fic except that Twiflag gets filtered by OC male MCs and OC casts. And the Glimmerflag who wanted to read it has left the club.I reviewed Brothers and Sisters here, >>40813772It's better than those Dash stinkers we read, I guess.I'm pretty sure I don't want to read any Unwhole Hole fics, I know I don't want to read Brothers and Sisters again. Integration would be fine if it's not just the two of us reading it.I'll put a different Raguos fic up too, https://www.fimfiction.net/story/190641/withdrawal
>>43289875OC casts are fine, and OC males are better with OC casts and not canon casts. That said, the OC cast is ideally mostly mares, but if there's a reason for it then it could be stallions. This fic seems fine (this is not me voting for it)
>>43289807Voting for the white unicorn.
>>43289807I'll vote for White Unicorn. Can't recall the last time I read a Fleur de Lis story.
>>43289807>Crisis on Two EquestriasI haven't read Lunaverse and I'm autistic where I'd prefer to have read Lunaverse before reading its spin-offs, despite what the description says.>One White UnicornCould be alright I guess.>IntegrationThis better not be a [Fetish] fic in disguise.>Brothers and SistersHer Soldiers We was pretty forgettable and this looks pretty similar going off the description.>>43289875>WithdrawalI think I'll vote for this one if it's allowed, post-Tirek magic-addicted Twilight sounds cool.If not, then voting One White Unicorn as well, but I'd request Withdrawal to be included in the next voting list.
I don't participate in the club, but Withdrawal is a great fic. You Anons should definitely put it on the list.
>>43289210I had to leave out early today and I couldn't post my write-up this morning fugfugfug>ThespianI have a hard time being objective with this story, because it targets my weaknesses. Not only is it a spotlight for a smaller character, it also has well-executed Princess shipping. The story is an easy read, very light, fluffy, and cute. Coco double-taking if Celestia is flirting with her? Cute. Celestia pranced giddily after helping with the show? Very cute. I like how the author uses punctuation to convey Celestia's funky line delivery, as well as her other little mannerisms. I appreciate the restraint the ending shows, having it end with a proposal for a first date. It feels very "new beginnings" and, before this story had a sequel, I thought it was a good ending.>Measuring UpThis entry feels a bit more indulgent.I think, since the original did all the work of building and selling Celly and Coco's relationship, the sequel gets the luxury of cashing in on them being a cutesy couple. I advise checking for cavity after reading, given how sweet and sugary the whole thing is. Also, dang, we are really laying it on thick with the size difference play here. It does serve a purpose, conveying how Coco feels small to compared to Celestia, not just physically. Just because your story has a size difference fetish and fetishist doesn't mean you can't use it for character development. I also thought Luna was well used in this story, her dynamic with Celestia being extra-sisterly, and was a highlight for me. First story is PG and this is closer to PG-13, easily with that ending.All-in-all, an enjoyable round of feel-good shipping.
>>43288684>How's your writing going?I made the mistake of reading a gore horror fic that uses the same structuring and mechanics as my fetish and now I'm stuck having to write anther fetish story to "purge" it from my brain. This has caused the Twidash clopfic to suddenly move up the chain far earlier than I was expecting.
>>43290475>not letting your readings influence your writings in a wonderful melting pointYou'll never be a NYT Bestseller.
https://www.fimfiction.net/story/381734/the-faces-we-shareA solid classic horror fic. There was a Goosebumps like this one. Dash finds a totally-not-evil talking mask and uses it to start spooking other ponies.For me, the highlights are in the latter of the story, when Dash pranks Golden Harvest and the unicorn stallion. It really shines at building suspense after all the set-up in the first half. As Dash is chasing the unicorn stallion, you get this sick pit in your stomach, like something terrible is about to happen. It's like watching someone about to scald herself because she isn't paying attention to a pot boiling on her burner. I think the story is worth reading for that part alone.My biggest point of contention is the ending. Zecora shows up at the 11th hour, whips out her signature Rainbow Dash voodoo doll, and put Dash in time-out before she can cause anything of lasting consequence. I was really expecting a big "oh shit" moment during the chase scene. Maybe Dash would have gotten stuck in a transformation, or the stallion would have fought back, or he trips while running away and dies. I get not wanting to do a downer ending for every horror story, but I still feel blue-balled.
>>43290723I read this one. I was expecting it to have a more traditional structure with the others trying to get the mask off RD after she becomes a monster in the second half, but it follows RD's perspective from beginning to end. I still thought it was alright and pretty good at creating unease with how suspiciously well things were going for Dash and how she was taking it further and further. The ending definitely feels a bit underwhelming, I like the happy ending but ideally there would be more of a present threat before Zecora shows upAlso put >review before the link next time OR ELSE
>>43282699>>43283641>>43283894>>43284370>>43285913Seems relevant to the thread
>>43290760>implying review-scraper-anon will run Flaresolverr and squid on his PC and proxy his script's requests through them to at last update the reviews site
>>43290762Don't be silly, our fics are unfinished because of retardation, not autism seeking to milk things forever.
More kino covers
>>43289210>>43289807Alright, then we're reading One White Unicorn next week:https://www.fimfiction.net/story/375944/one-white-unicornThe first seven chapters (titled correctly for once!) on week 1, the rest for week 2.With a note that Withdrawal will be next.>>43289875>where you got the idea that it's M/M shippingCaramel as a character has been memed as gay since the olden times, so a romance story with him and no other named characters in sight (or it tags) was suspicious. A very quick glance at the comments didn't reveal anything, though I prioritize dodging spoilers so maybe there was something.>>43290274Man, I always feel bad when I post late and dodge all the other anons. But it's hard to go back into the fix-discussing mood once it's gone. That said, I also agree with everything that you're saying.I'll try adding some of this author's fics into the list to see if it was a fluke or if he's actually good.
>>43291018Maybe he will! Or maybe someone else will take up his mantle, in which case, having them properly formatted would be helpful, so yeah, I'm with >>43290760 on keeping the >review.
>>43291632>I'll try adding some of this author's fics into the list to see if it was a fluke or if he's actually good.I glanced over some of Rego's stuff and this duology was the perfect club-fic length. A lot of the others are either short one-shots (10k words or less) or really long (200k+ words). There's one where Chrysalis is AJ's dog (not Winona), which looks interesting but is 260k words.
>>43291732I think the more hilarious example is that trilogy off his that goes>Forbidden Melodies10k words. Hard historical drama about old hymns>Peach shitpost4k word peach shitpost>Gloria Celestia6k words. Historical drama about fanaticism.>Electro SwingMotherfucking 423k deep romance drama that pays off the build up of the first two stories near the very end of the fic in ways you don't really see coming..It boggles the mind.
I need a review to parse if I'm improving or not, anyone interested?https://www.fimfiction.net/story/588299/unknown-foalThis is the latest story I've wrote with effort, and it did what it could.Any critique helps.
>>43291908How can you improve on perfection?
>>43291913twenty three downvotes say otherwise.
>>43291920genius is seldom recognized by its contemporaries.
>>43291947That's why Moby Dick got all those downvotes.
>>43291908anon have you thought about talking to a therapist about your incest fantasies
>>43291949It's a LARP, not the real author. The author has been writing this way since 2012 and shows no signs of changing.
>>43291950>14+ years of nigh unintelligible fetish ficsI admire and fear the dedication to writing their own slop
>>43291908Sorry, It's a pretty bad story. The prose has a very "ESL" feel to its prose and grammar:>in Canterlot voice she spoke>You will both be mating by the time he is a full stallion male>“For sake, please he’s not even old enough yet…”I'd strongly recommend reading regular English novels to help improve things. Consulting the Purdue OWL for grammar could also help.The sex stuff is also bad. For a fetish fic, the narrator is shockingly, almost comedically, bad at describing things:>She knew it was the workings of Celestia doing this but she couldn’t stop getting erect inward. >Her open place went side to side on the wooden shaft of the chair.>She gently twirled around and showed her gaping hole open and tense.Overall, I'd say the core issue is the prose just being bad and needing to be substantially worked on to improve the grammar and flow. When writing fetish content, you also should really let the narrator run wild. People are supposed to fap to this, so they should get as much detail as possible. But that's a secondary issue here compared to the inherent problems with the prose and grammar.>>43291920A lot of that can be because of the poor prose/grammar, but remember that it's also a blatant foalcon fic. Foalcon gets nuked from orbit. There's a solid chance 15 of those dowvotes happened just from the title and rating alone.>>43291950>It's a LARP10/10 cope. I find it infinitely more likely to be an autist with a fetish than some auteur who's been passionately trolling for fifteen years.
>>43292012grammar is the issue? guess I'll take a class for that since nothing is really clicking for me. A refresher would be nice. Thanks for the tip.
>>43279828I reported it yesterday and now it seems to be privated?
>>43292107And it's dead now.
>>43292012>10/10 copeNo, I meant that >>43291908 is not the real author. It's someone giggling while he tries to get us to read terrible foalcon. The real author doesn't care. He's been writing poorly for fifteen years and it hasn't bothered him before; why would it bother him now?
>>43292418Maybe he got into a car accident and he's reflecting on his life finally
>>43292107>>43292210it'll be back within a week
>>43292625How do you know?
>>43292645mods like to private stories that they have “under review”. more often than not they come back as soon as the author and/or enough braindead readers complain that it wasn't actually aislop, *especially* if the story was already popular beforehand
>>43292657The guy will have to explain, among other things, why the new chapters averaged 160 em dashes per chapter when it wasn't the case before. A sudden passion for them, I imagine.
How do I become a Fimfic mod so that I can mercilessly delete all the AIslop that gets above 80% on GPT Zero?
>>43292689Hey, that's my fantasy too!
>>43292689>using "AI" to check whether "AI" made somethingI couldn't get the full resolution of this image because the modern web is utter shit.
>>43292784I can usually tell by instinct, but you'd need some soft of official reasoning. And what you posted is a fringe case that you'd have a hard time replicating with any half-decent chatbot right now. Honestly, it might even be fake because what kind of chatbot gives such a concise answer instead of the word vomit they're known for?
>>43292784Already talked about, but GPTZero is solid to detect basic AI usage. It's also not the same technology, algorithm, or usage as a classic chatbot you showcased, but you already know that.If you get >80% on it with creative writing, you used AI. Point.All fimfics written before AI will at the very most get 5%, and most of them just get a flat 0%.If someone finds me a creative writing that is for sure not AI and gets tagged as 20% or more, I'll be surprised to see that.
>>43292810I put in a paragraph of my writing and it was only 60% sure it was human.I am just extremely fucking verbose, and I think it felt that was an A.I thing to do.
>>43292841In this one?https://app.gptzero.me/If so, I'd like to see it, if you don't mind.
>>43292852Here.There's a 4% difference from last time, probably because it's the same block put in, dunno.
>>43292859It's dumb, but it's because there is only one paragraph and it ups the odds when there isn't enough text.Which again is a bit dumb because your writing is correctly identified as human (Green).I think if you put a paragraph above or below, it will correctly put 0%.
Sadly the best way to tell if something is AI is to actually read it and look for tells. Not just em dashes but >Pointless details that go nowhere>Describing characters with smells>Describing those smells as "something distinctly X" or "undeniably Y">Describing X character as "X, the Y who once did Z, the Y who once did W, was XYZing".>Author comments are borderline incomprehensible or overly agreeable>Inconsistencies between paragraphs: for example one character was sitting in a chair drinking coffee and the next time it describes them a paragraph they're closing a book they were reading while standing
>>43292872>Describing characters with smellsBut what if your character likes smelling people?
>>43292882Then see the next point.
>>43292872Don't forget>It wasn't X — it was Yor some variation thereof.
>>43292904I've noticed that AI models have stopped doing that and started going “Not X. Not Y. Just… Z.” which is somehow even more awful to read
>>43292841Yeah but you're profoundly autistic so it's normal to doubt the humanity of what you make.
>>43292947That just makes what I write all the more special.Needs.Ha.
I'm writing an extensive guide on some of the finer nuances and subtleties of determining if something is AI-written/AI-assisted, and one strategy that's served me well is paying attention to the unicode symbols used for punctuation. You've got the straight ones like "quote" and 'postrophe and the common ellipsis made with three periods... but then there's also the “fancier” variants (such as the angled quote marks), which aren’t /always/ used by AI, and which also occur by default on iOS or when typing in programs like Word… (try highlighting the individual dots on that one to see the difference) ...but when a story switches back and forth between variants of a given punctuation mark, and there's differences in the writing that always appear with one or the other—for example, the "normal" quotes are in segments with dryer sentences and occasional typos, while the “fancy” quotes are in segments that are much more polished and full of GPT-isms like “She didn't just X. She Y. Hard. And Z.”—then it's basically like a manuscript with two very distinct handwriting styles claiming to have only one author. The alternative is that they constantly switched back and forth between writing programs AND switched their writing style back and forth with it for no reason (not even insane people do this)—and unless they had the foresight to claim it was co-written (I saw one guy do this where the co-writer also clearly uses AI), there's simply no explanation for this behavior other than AI usage.Rulebreaking used to be very straightforward: "This is a graphic sex scene and shouldn't be rated E." or "This isn't about ponies, it's an entirely original setting featuring the Power Rangers." or "This is just The Bible. You didn't write that.". Now, however, we have to report things while making the utterly surreal claim that they were written by a guy who isn't actually real, which is kind of unprecedented in anything ever... So finding the kind of "smoking gun" needed to shatter plausible deniability is a lot harder, and our methods need to evolve alongside the technology. It will almost never be 100% certain even when obvious, so sometimes you'll have to point out a few subtler tells that are excusable on their own but eliminate plausible deniability when combined, like the punctuation discrepancy + prose discrepancy in tandem.
>>43292689That tool seems quite accurate, but even if it was some sort of government-mandated database run by OpenAI, X, Anthropic, etc. in collaboration that scans all chats on file and tells you "yep, we generated that" without ever lying, it still runs the issue of being a black box; it doesn't "show its work" (unless it's locked behind the account/browser extension stuff I didn't bother with), so it requires just blindly taking it at its word, and basically defering authority to an external source. For that reason, I can understand why mods don't see high AI scores as actionable.It's still good for determining if a story that raised your eyebrow is worth taking a more thorough look at, though. Sometimes I click stories on the front page and look for anything abusing line breaks like>X. Not Y. Z.>>Just... Z.>>Mare gasped.>>Slowly, she ABC.and put it in my "check for AI when I have time" shelf. I swear, it's like ChatGPT gets its pleasure circuits overloaded every time it starts a new line or chops up a sentence down to its component clauses and makes them all separate. You can quickly make a decent guess on a story just by scrolling through it and looking at the paragraph/sentence sizes real quick.
>>43292953IWTCIFS
>>43293016Gross, she's a kindergartener
>>43293007>This is just The Bible. You didn't write thatSuddenly the presence of Christian furries quoting Thomas Aquinas on the horrors of premarital sex to me makes a little more sense.
I ran an original passage from Harry potter through zerogpt and it flagged it as 4.3% AI generated. but a human wrote it 100% so why 4.3% AI help?
>>43293133Ignoring whatever the fuck that crop is, very little things for me ever completely pop up as 0% AI. It doesn't matter anyway; you're obsessing too much over something irrelevant. You want something with a high percentage.
Funny how even J.K. Rowling’s original Harry Potter text hits 4% AI on ZeroGPT. If almost nothing ever reads as fully human to you, maybe the detector’s just noisy not that it ‘doesn’t matter.’ Caring about how your work lands in a community that side eyes AI isn’t obsession, it’s basic awareness. Wanting clean results isn’t the same as demanding perfection.
>>43293146AI generated text was still trained off human work, so it won't ever be perfect.
>>43293133These things are never that accurate. If you want really accurate results, give it a large amount of text, and pay no attention unless you get a high score like 90%.Also, some detectors are better than others. I can't remember which of ZeroGPT and GPTZero is the rip-off. The best detector I know of is Pangram.
>>43293062Why would anyone take Thomas seriously? He thought witches could prevent erections instead of the opposite.
>>43293133>ITT anon doesn't understand probability
>>43293153Ah, how illuminating. One must commend the perspicacity of dismissing these detectors’ inherent imprecision while simultaneously proffering the sage counsel to furnish them with voluminous corpora before deigning to acknowledge their verdicts yet only when they register some arbitrarily elevated threshold, such as a lofty 90%. Pray tell, if even pristine excerpts from J.K. Rowling’s original Harry Potter canon register a non-negligible AI score on ZeroGPT, does that not rather undermine the very notion of reliability you so blithely invoke?As for your professed uncertainty regarding which among ZeroGPT and GPTZero constitutes the inferior facsimile, and your elevation of Pangram as the preeminent arbiter… one can only surmise a certain unfamiliarity with the capricious methodologies underlying these probabilistic oracles. In fanfiction circles, where scrutiny is keen and authenticity prized, even modest flags warrant judicious attention not cavalier indifference. But by all means, proceed with your expansive texts and selective thresholds; the cognoscenti will undoubtedly find it most enlightening.
>>43293160You fucking tell me, man.
>>43293153Should the lexicon prove too recondite, procure a dictionary forthwith that you might better apprehend the subtleties of the discourse.
>>43293164>Draco DeiLmao there's your problem.
>>43293136Thus, with matters clarified, I wish you a most agreeable day, sir.
>>43293173I see.
>>43288684I think I might actually get my longfic finished and edited before the end of the summer. Disclaimer: I said that last summer and here I am shitposting when I'm supposed to be writing
>>43293225I've set myself the goal of starting publishing on September 12 all the way to Halloween.I still have two and a half chapters left to go.I must finish chapter 6 before the 21st. That gives me time for the rest.Here's hoping, Anon.
>>43292418He's posted here before, you can see the behavior is pretty much exactly the same. >>34028851>>43292012If you are masochistic enough, you could tell him if he actually improved in 7 years by comparing >>43291908 to >>34029287That was a fun thread ripping on Skirts, too.
>>43293163I don't think it matters whether I respond rationally to you or not, since you're already using your thesaurus to disguise the flimsiness of your argument. So instead I'm going to say: Kys, faggot.
>>43293304Ah, the apex of intellectual brilliance: discarding reason for ‘Kys, faggot’ the instant a superior lexicon appears. How profoundly illuminating.Such crude slurs from an insignificant, irrelevant pebble of a nobody glide harmlessly past; they merely expose your hollow, pathetic insecurity and withered mind. We who cherish My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic, a sanctuary of harmony and respect, regard your vulgar, contemptible drivel as utterly pitiable and beneath all notice.I harbor sincere hope that these words prove legible to you, though I gravely doubt whether your scant allotment of brain cells can endure the strain. Should they overwhelm your feeble faculties, scurry forthwith and procure a dictionary. I bid you a most agreeable day, sir.
>>43293354Fics where someone cums inside these two anons?
>>43293354>Gotcha! Here's a version of your reply rewritten to be even more verbose. Happy trolling! Let me know if you need anything else.
>>43293354I am inexplicably turned on right now.
>>43292689I assume a long circlejerk session on the Discord is one of the first requirements.>>43292859>like the pedals of a flower>sifting out the itineraries whispered before>was already quieted>simmered away into nothing>listened closely to the inscription for faint echoesIt's definitely because of the flowery narrator. I put in my fetish narrator giving a clean, simple play-by-play of Daring's body getting modulated and it spit out a 100% human rating. I'd say the more purple your prose, the more it'll say it's AI.>>43293164Is this that changeling cyberpunk fetish fic or is there another pornfic where people are having philosophical debates in the comments? Because it sounds like something the author was arguing about with the other slav in the comment section.
>>43293392It's https://www.fimfiction.net/story/591389/love-is-a-bug. Apparently premarital sex gets you sent to Tartarus. Even if you're literally the Princess of Fucking.
>>43293398Not even premarital sex, but sex for any reason that isn't procreation.
>>43293398>Sex with a shapeshifting soul-eating bug monster is okay if you marry it first
>>43293208He's friends with Artist which tells you everything you need to know.
>>43293398>the Princess of FuckingFlurry Heart?
>>43293007I accused one guy of AI for precisely the reason that his formatting and punctuation symbols were all over the place, like some sections clearly copy-pasted from another source than what was being hand-written. He completely denied it though and claimed that his writing process was merely to write his emails in Word, but then when pasting he would add stuff in the email dialog... Yeah, sure.The real problem with AI I've found is people not wanting to admit to it even to their dying breath. There's a few noble souls with vigorous AI acknowledgments in their work, but most people use AI heavily while managing to convince themselves it's "just a tool" that's helping them and that they're still the one doing all the real work, such that even when they're copy pasting paragraphs at you they consider it a human response. In the youtube video essay scene, it's increasingly common for total nobodies to start spitting out regurgitated AI scripts that get hundreds of thousands of likes/views from people in awe of the uploader's poetic grasp of a game's nature, but it's obviously AI. I call them out, no response, EVER. It is their livelihood, I guess.
>>43293484Ignorance is a commodity in today’s world, why should the common goyim care if something’s AI or not? They simply only care about bing bing wahoo no matter the cost and don’t think any deeper about what they consume.
>>43293484>just a toolI mean we had a dude last thread claiming that.
>>43293484>The real problem with AI I've found is people not wanting to admit to it even to their dying breathWhenever people try to compare AI for writing with AI for images, I notice you don't have this problem with the latter.
What's the fic for the next club?
>>43293579Which is ironic because artists already incorporate a shitton of automation in their digital work. The truth is that most of them are lazy fucking retards constantly in poor economic conditions because they refuse to actually treat their job like a job and they're terrified by the fact that people can prompt images better than the garbage they draw for free now.
>>43293651Not that anon and slightly off topic but the thing is most artists are not particularly good and only a small amount have a unique artstyle that ai can’t replicate to a satisfactory degree to most of the people to can use it to generate substitutes to commissions. We also exist in a culture that doesn’t value high art and where most online artists draw fucking furry porn or hentai in simple art styles. Which means ai can much more easily act as a satisfactory substitute to most potential commissioners. The interests people have in relation to booba and cute simplicity drawn characters much more easy for an ai to satisfy than anything else.
This fic was decent imo.https://www.fimfiction.net/story/590637/pinkie-pies-little-foal
>>43293651>Which is ironic because artists already incorporate a shitton of automation in their digital work.The plagiarism machine is not the same thing as a digital drawing program, or even a camera, despite what fools claim.>>43293663Yeah, the market for generic shit is dead, but it still can't make original work, just hyper collages.
>>43293666>Pinkie Pie [Comedy]This can only be the work of Satan
>>43293614Read nigger READ >>43291632
>>43293760>readThat's not how this thread works.
>>43293706>it's okay if I tell the computer to draw a curve, a line, a shape, or a gradient>it's not okay if you tell it to draw a shitty picture instead of paying me to draw an even shittier one, reeeeeAlso "le plagiarism machine" argument from people who make fan content will never not be hilarious, but sure, continue begging the government to pass laws that will destroy what you've decided to dedicate your life to.
>>43293809>it's okay if I tell the computer to draw a curve, a line, a shape, or a gradient>it's not okay if you tell it to draw a shitty picture instead of paying me to draw an even shittier one, reeeeeYes. This is factually correct.
>>43293809>>it's okay if I tell the computer to draw a curve, a line, a shape, or a gradientGradient is the only thing in this list that is actually automated, and even then I think gradient tool is still seen as less respectable than manual coloring. No hypocrisy here.>Also "le plagiarism machine" argument from people who make fan content will never not be hilariousThe small artist is inherently more sympathetic than a large corporation with millions of lawsuit money, so no hypocrisy here either.
>>43293706>plagiarism machineif ai is plagiarism, then so is an artist even just looking at another artist's work. there are many valid arguments against ai; this is not one of them.
>>43293850An artist won't perfectly replicate another artist's specific artstyle just by looking at it.
>>43293864Neither will AI as proven by the very image the pregtard posted. It's arguably harder to get AI to replicate someone's style than it is for a human to trace and copy; and fundamentally "AI chops things up and mixes them together" is a grave misunderstanding of how it actually works that just makes people peddling it come across as ignorant on the matter. >>43293844>Gradient is the only thing in this list that is actually automatedBézier curves are absolutely a form of non trivial automation and so are basically all filters and all geometric transformations you can use to digitally manipulate images. It's not the same as using AI but it is hypocritical and retarded for people who use them to pretend they don't benefit from technology reducing execution toll in favour of planning. You could say the same goes for colour selection and filling. Combined with how ignorantly they talk about AI, it's clear these people are fucking stupid and only in the right by coincidence.
Just don't create if you don't fundamentally enjoy the act of creation.
>>43293927>Neither will AI as proven by the very image the pregtard posted.It's a two-year old image. Today Qwen can probably do a much better job, not to mention a LoRA pre-trained on a specific artist's style.Source: used Qwen a lot to replicate favorite drawfag styles
Do you tell anyone IRL about your fics?https://slate.com/advice/2026/06/work-advice-fic-hobby-hr.html
>>43293975Christ this woman sounds like a piece of shit to work with.
If you guys want a comprehensive list of AI tells then try asking /chag/ for one. Some of those anons can tell you what specific model someone is using by reading just a few paragraphs.
>>43294060I switched to Claude for writing critique last week and it started bullying me for writing like ChatGPT :(
>>43293809>>it's okay if I tell the computer to draw a curve, a line, a shape, or a gradientYes.>>it's not okay if you tell it to draw a shitty picture instead of paying me to draw an even shittier one, reeeeeJust stop pretending to be a real fucking artist.>Also "le plagiarism machine" argument from people who make fan content will never not be hilariousCorporations don't own culture just because the government tells us they do.>but sure, continue begging the government to pass laws that will destroy what you've decided to dedicate your life to.If they enforce copyright laws against me, they should also enforce them against corporations.>>43293850>if ai is plagiarism, then so is an artist even just looking at another artist's workA human isn't a machine that lossily compresses digital information and nothing else. You may as well draw a comparison between storing a movie on your hard drive and having memories, in favour of eliminating human memories.>>43293927>It's arguably harder to get AI to replicate someone's style than it is for a human to trace and copyYeah, programming a machine is harder than giving a human, another intelligent agent, vague instructions he nevertheless understands how to carry out.>It's not the same as using AI but it is hypocritical and retarded for people who use them to pretend they don't benefit from technology reducing execution toll in favour of planning.I don't know about you guys, but I think and speak identically to how I write. I could certainly write without a computer, but it removes the drudgery of handwriting, correcting mistakes, and has plenty of other labour-saving features that while valuable still don't even attempt to rise above the writer. While it's on my mind, anyone using Grammarly should stop. It's like how newer vehicles will jerk control of the wheel out of the driver's hands.>>43293932>Just don't create if you don't fundamentally enjoy the act of creation.If they don't represent themselves as the creator of something the plagiarism machine vomited into their laps, how are they to get the attention those undeserving creators enjoy?>>43293934>It's a two-year old image. Today Qwen can probably do a much better job, not to mention a LoRA pre-trained on a specific artist's style.I wonder if the amount of commissioning I've done for this idea has made it easier for the machine to do, kek. I wouldn't bet on it.
New contest just droppedhttps://www.fimfiction.net/group/213901/my-little-reviews-feedback/thread/573762/sci-fi-contest-2026-is-liveWhat about it, anon? Do you feel like submitting your epic sci-fi tale to be judged by a bunch of ESLs (going off their publicly available reviews) who used AI to define the criteria of their contest's topic?
>>43294348>they were so lazy that they used AI to define each sci-fi subgenreOH NO OH NO AAAAAHAHAHAHA
>>43294355World's first slop contest.
AI tools serve as powerful assistive technology for people with disabilities such as those who have lost the use of their hands or arms due to injury, those born with conditions that limit physical writing, or individuals who are paralyzed and unable to move or express themselves facially. In these cases, AI can translate their thoughts, spoken words, or mental dictation into coherent sentences, stories, or communication on a screen. This is a profoundly positive and ethical use of the technology, essentially acting as a voice or scribe for those who would otherwise be silenced by their physical limitations.The ethical nuance arises when considering the ‘fine line’ for creative work like storytelling or fanfiction. For individuals with significant physical or neurological barriers that genuinely prevent them from writing or typing independently, AI assistance functions as an accessibility aid much like a wheelchair or speech-to-text software empowering them to participate in creative expression they couldn’t access otherwise.On the other hand, for able-bodied people who can physically write but choose AI to generate or heavily automate entire stories, the line shifts toward questions of authorship, originality, and community standards. Many creative communities (including fanfiction spaces) value the personal effort, voice, and human imperfections that come from manual creation. Full AI generation in those contexts can feel like bypassing the artistic process rather than augmenting a disabled person’s capabilities.As a special education teacher, I’m curious; what are your thoughts on this? (I know this is probably the worst place to ask this type of question.)
>>43294620If they can't write how are they able to write prompts
>>43294624If someone isn’t physically able to write at all, they can still use voice dictation, speech-to-text tools, eye-tracking software, or even simple yes/no switches and communication devices. They describe their ideas out loud or in very basic terms, and the AI helps turn those rough thoughts into full sentences or stories. The technology has advanced so quickly that some kids now have a chip implanted in their brain that sends their thoughts as signals directly to a computer on their wheelchair, turning those signals into text. AI then organizes and refines them, adding punctuation and structure to turn them into clear, readable sentences and paragraphs. It’s not about writing perfect prompts from the start—it’s about the AI acting as a powerful assistant that bridges the gap between their mind and the page.
>>43294620who caresthey're literally retarded>>43294624like morse code with dots and dashes but instead hurrs and durrs
Why are we getting increasingly invaded by AI bros
>>43294620I know you're just taking the piss, but this is such a frustrating argument that really only makes people dislike cripples more.>In these cases, AI can translate their thoughts, spoken words, or mental dictation into coherent sentences, stories, or communication on a screen.If someone really can't communicate otherwise, this is the opening for a horror story with how unreliable these things are.>Many creative communities (including fanfiction spaces) value the personal effort, voice, and human imperfections that come from manual creation.>human imperfectionsSomething I hate about the "voice" of ChatGPT is how it doesn't use full sentences. Just brief clauses. Like this. Incorrect. Annoying.>>43294632Thanks for confirming that you're lying, not that it wasn't obvious.
>>43294597>boyfriend
>>43294646That is always what they've used in the show.
>>43294620>questions of authorship, originality, and community standardsSetting aside the manual authors seething about slop posters theft of updoots, praise and general community interactions (those events should instead serve as a demonstration of how little they actually matter), you forgot about two more important and practical problems with LLM-generated stories:- the problems surrounding the lie about how it was made- limited resource consumption (specifically, fimfiction's moderation)Besides the general infrastructure and natural resource consumption of LLM-powering datacenters, it is important to prevent slop posters from consuming mod time to filter and clean up stories that don't belong on the site (to enforce the community's will that they be rejected). Additionally, in a general sense, it is good to fight disinformation, and clearly labeling LLM-generated content is at least one of the OK methods of public education. Obviously, that isn't an option on FiMFiction, but they can fuck off to AO3.I didn't mention the "AI is theft" angle because I don't care about piracy, but it looks like you outright forgot it.More pertinently, discussing the merits of disabled people proooompting is a waste of time of the same style as the political right's fixation on trans people. If what you're describing even happens, its impact on a community the size of FiMfiction's is nonexistent.
>>43294644My evidence here. It's a funny youtube channel @mulletbroscoStephen Hawking TOO but He died on March 14, 2018.
If retarded autists were incapable of writing without prompting we wouldn't have forty thousand Thomas the tank engine crossovers.
>>43294665We don't have forty thousand Thomas the tank engine crossovers.
>>43294665this tbdesu, there's plenty fics out there written by actually mentally ill people for me to care about the ones that prompt through a machine that'll dilute their weirdness rather than letting me see their twisted funky world
>>43294669Give TheBlueEM2 some time, he'll get there.
>>43294646dyewts? the words boyfriend and girlfriend don't get ponified.
>>43294597I want to know how that sentence ends.>Sweetie calls upon Twilight Sparkle to magically stretch her asshole>Sweetie calls upon black magic to shrink her boyfriend's dick>Sweetie calls upon the power of the alicorn amulet to give herself a huge dick to peg her boyfriend with, despite his objections
>>43294691
>>43294662Yeah, I agree it, but I just care too much about disabled people, I guess. yeah, I am pathetic.
>>43294703Are you the guy last thread asking everyone to debate you on discord
>>43294620>>43294706Jesus fucking it is. Now he's larping as a special needs teacher and STILL using AI to generate his responses.
>>43293484>giving a shit about AI use in emailsKek. I got way more important things to worry about at work. What's even funnier is I actually do write some of the longer emails in Word, then paste them into gmail before adding more stuff in and gmail really is horrible at formatting copy/pasted stuff.>>43293663>can use it to generate substitutes to commissionsThis isn't true. AI art is great when you want something generic or general but the more specificity you give it, the less likely you are to get what you want. Source: someone who gave up after trying for two hours to generate an oil painting of a bulk lake freighter in heavy seas. And don't even think about trying to get your fetish in there, unless you want to end up like the footfags and create a model trained on four million images.>>43294691>Sweetie calls upon her Ursa Minor pet to fuck her in the assI'm guessing, based on the cover art.
What're you writegenders actually up to, writingwise
>>43294815Trying to see if I can utilize grammar better with this written story, and if not, I'll take a break and work on that somehow.https://www.fimfiction.net/story/591700/cupcakes-o-reduxIts short but should be serviceable.
>>43294815I don't even know at this point.
>>43294819I gotta ask. Why?
>>43294348Genuinely, is there any argument against using Claude to spam them with entries perfectly tuned to satisfy their tastes going by their public reviews and stories?>>43294355Being charitable, you could say it's genuine confusion over Jewgle's AI rollout.
>>43294815Eris mistakenly tortures Caramel to death several times because she's bored.
>>43294828Why? What's the problem?
>>43294833Why did you write a story about Big Mac fucking a black woman.
>>43294834He's miscegenationcoded.
Any fics for this feel?
>>43293932There is nothing amoral about generating slop for your own enjoyment and nothing wrong with sharing it with people who might enjoy it so long as it's clearly labelled as something the AI made. I think the existence of a bunch of utter idiots who genuinely argue they're creating art by using AI has made people think everyone who uses it thinks that way, when they're actually just a loud subset. The fact of the matter is that while AI isn't good, it's still better than most of the garbage humans make. It's good enough if you're looking for something specific and niche and you're fine with a average quality. Artists are rightfully entitled to charge however much they want for their art, but they're not entitled to people needing to commission them instead of generating slop. The unspoken truth is that a lot of artists who take commissions are fairly mediocre in the grand scheme of things, and people pay for the getting what you want drawn part more than for the quality. >>43294191>Corporations don't own cultureNeither do you. >If they enforce copyright laws against me, they should also enforce them against corporations.I think they shouldn't enforce either. I think part of the current legal push against AI is another side of Disney lobbying, I think the arguments being raised sound a lot like the kind that would be used to argue for closing libraries, and I think a lot of authors are being really fucking stupid about this. The process by which AI is trained isn't meaningfully different enough from the way humans experience and learn from art for corporations not to target the latter with laws for the former as soon as they can. AI isn't particularly good but I have yet to see a single convincing argument for the whole "AI is theft" mentality that doesn't sound completely retarded and came from someone who's never actually made art in their lives.
>>43295083Club just read one where Pinkie keeps pranking her friends a a ghost, no romance tho. And it's only 1 chapter
>>43295173Hmm, a nuanced perspective on this is rare. I broadly agree, although I think that the comparison of training AI versus human learning is a bit off.
>>43295193>although I think that the comparison of training AI versus human learning is a bit offNTA. I was at a panel at a con a few days ago about character design. Every professional artist there when asked how to learn to work on that agreed on "get design books for things you like and study / copy / outright trace the art in there to get a feel for it" as being a recommended step in the learning process. Humans pretty broadly learn by dissecting existing art, internalising it, and then building new things out of the base materials they decomposed it in. If anything humans do the "build new things from pieces of existing things" a lot more than AI, because humans can actually do it consciously (or unconsciously) but AI has no thinking mind, it's just rolling dice and analysing probability of things it doesn't understand innately (this is another broad problem with AI discussions; people on both sides humanise it far too much when it's not a thinking being at all).And that's okay, that's how art has always existed and evolved. Some do it better than others, but even when you can see the clear parallels to something else a work can still be good. I think people are approaching things from the wrong side legally. I think limiting the ability to monetise AI content is what we should focus on instead, and it would discourage corporations a lot more; and I think focusing on the training process like people are doing right now is bad and going to bit people in the ass later. Saying material that physically exists and is made with parts of what you worked on is theft is one thing, and an argument can be made there to broadly limit AI usage and be in line with existing plagiarism laws. You argue that it's impossible to be sure the AI isn't copying something outright, therefore you should always assume it is. But saying the theft happens when the AI is trained on that material is essentially arguing thought crimes are real. If I copy a passage from a book word for word I'm in the wrong. If I can be in the wrong because the passage is only similar but I have read the book and therefore "stole" the information in it that's a fucking problem.
>>43294867>paw would whoop yaHaven't you heard? It's fine to fuck anything so long as you marry it first.
>>43295523Then why didn't we get an Appledash marriage?
>>43295526They went the Homestuck route and made it happen offscreen.
>>43295526Appledash is the epitome of immortality, obviously.
>>43295529I was inclined to agree until I noticed you didn't type "immorality".
>>43295529>>43295531And now after looking at the image do I get the joke.
>>43294703>about disabled peopleWho? Blind-deaf-mutes with no arms or legs? You can't tell me that retards can't use a keyboard to produce reams of text. We're both on 4chan.
>>43295656He's also LARPing.
Wonder if Fable has produced a fic yet.
>>43295770I would be surprised.
Is Twilight afraid of tacos? Or does her fear of quesadillas not go that far?
>>43294348I'm tempted to shit out a halfbaked ponification of BLAME! for thispeople still write ponifications, right?
>>43296252It depends on how cheesy the tacos are.
>>43296252A taco is not a quesadilla, you hack.
>>43296518They're both edible items made by filling a tortilla and folding it over. They're really not that different.
>>43296558I'll fill your tortilla and fold you over.
>>43294815I've been struggling to shift out of fetish mode and back to regular fic writing for weeks now.>>43294819I'll do the first paragraph.>“What is it that you need from me Pinkie?”Missing the comma before Pinkie. That's also a very formal sentence for Dash to use and sounds out of character. She'd much more likely say something like "What's up, Pinkie?" or "What are we doing, Pinkie?" >said Rainbow Dash while she stood and shaked her bodyShook is the past tense of shake. I'm questioning the narration there as well. Why did she shake her body? The following sentence mentions excitement over Pinkie's baking, which implies Dash is shaking in excitement from the delicious smell, but the sentence after that mentions cold, which suggests she's shivering, instead. Or is she just shaking herself like she's a dog because she stood up? It's unclear and an odd thing for the narrator to highlight.>The scent of baked goods from Pinkie Pie excited the most reluctant ponies to the flavorful crust.This one's weird, too. Dash isn't really reluctant and hesitation isn't a personality trait of hers, so why's the narrator talking about it? "Crust" is also a very weird word to use, especially since cupcakes don't have a crust. Something like "treats" or "pastries" fits much better.>A cold day would endear anypony with the warmth of cupcakes.This one's okay, but still feels odd. Cupcakes aren't usually eaten particularly warm, as it can melt the frosting and make a mess. They're not really associated with "foods eaten on a cold day". >Pinkie Pie was a master artist in the way of sugary treatsAnother stiffly worded sentence. I'd phrase it something like "was a master in the art of baking.">Her recipe of any baked goods would entice the strongest of wills.You could trim that down a bit:>Her deserts could entice even the strongest of willsBut it's still a weird thing for the narrator to emphasize. It suggests she's tempting Dash into the horror to come, but they're friends and Dash is there, willing to help. There's no resistance or hesitation from Dash that's a hallmark of the temptation angle. The narrator seems to be going on about it for no real reason.
>https://www.fimfiction.net/story/60912/private-gig>https://www.fimfiction.net/story/19650/the-moon-is-a-harsh-mistress>the author behind these fucking died at sea or whateverfucking bullshit, this guy wrote such compelling stories and fucking bounced.
>>43296840All unfinished, too. Shame.
>>43296840>Spitfire fic>Unfinished since 2013>Author last seen in 2023This is worse than just normal bullshit.
New RunicTreetops!!!https://www.fimfiction.net/story/591723/still-life-yeah-i-sure-hope-it-is
I fucking opened https://www.fimfiction.net/story/136759/6/sufficiently-advanced/chapter-four-emeth again because I wanted to read about how pointless your choice at the end of Mass Effect 2 is.
>>43297492Runic could be so much better if he didn't waste his time on AiE.
Just to let everyone know that this year's corpse is finally underway.If you want to participate, drop by the group's thread.www.fimfiction.net/group/204388/voting/thread/573396/2026-collab-attempt
>>43297659I don't want to participate.
>>43297599I think AiE can be funny sometimes when he's written to be an annoying asshole and an amalgamation of thousands of early 2010s internet trolls sharing a body but a lot of authors (Runic included) just use him as their depressed self insert for the ponies to therapy-talk at
>>43297599In ages past, campfire tales of heroes and their epic journeys sparked imagination and wove cultures together. Today, Anon carries that torch into the digital era, embodying the collective unconscious psyche.When you embrace Anon's presence in stories, you tap into a metaphysical current connecting all of humanity across time and space.Anon is the hero's journey re-manifested, a modern mythic avatar through which we explore transcendent truths about existence, consciousness, and our place in the cosmos. His ill-defined nature allows the collective unconscious of endless readers to shape and mold his character.So, Anon is an embodied dialectic, an esoteric artery pulsing with the psychic lifeblood of humanity’s mythological needs. To deny AIE is to condemn yourself to a spiritually barren husk of a life.
>>43297492>RunicTreeslops
I've been reading the Calculations of Volume this week (no hooves). It's decent if you don't mind entry tier disjointed philosophical ramblings on life. It seems like to be a professional lit fic author that get massively hyped and translated into 20 languages, you just need to subvert the expected comedy gimmick with surface level insight spread over 800 pages (sorry, "perceptive ruminations on the nature of time").Have you been taking yourself too seriously, anon? Anyone here try to write serious lit fics recently? Can't be much worse than the real novels getting nominated for awards out there.
How does getting trounced by your contemporaries feel like every single time you write and they get all the views and follower count while you have a measly 20 follower count with 300 stories in weight.
>>43297959I'm such a fucking failure, I'm just elated I manage to publish anything at all.
>>43297721I completely disagree. The entire reason I hate AiE is because he's always written as a quippy horny asshole.
>>43298020Well there's your problem. Early 2010's internet trolls weren't quippy and horny, they were aggravating, antisocial, and got pleasure out of people hating their presence. I didn't bring it up in my first post but AiE stories where he's a quippy Casanova sex magnet are also not very interesting to me. I think Anon is at his best when he's a comedic character and the ponies either hate his guts for being an asshole, or they drive themselves crazy trying to Friendship-is-Magic the exact type of person that should NEVER be engaged with in good-faith friendly discussion.
>>43298041Yeah I do agree with you there, I actually think the best versions of Anon are the ones that even we as readers dislike him, instead of "he's literally me"I think having some indulgence in self inserting as him is fine, I think that's what most people want in smut anyway
>>43297965What does that whole sentence even mean?
>>43298082The act of creation in and of itself is more holy than the celebration of the act of creation
>>43298113Humans can't create. They can only generate.
>>43298041>>43298045I recall in the early days of 4chan from my time spent on /b/ that a lot of the best greens featured a main character who was sort of hilariously misfortunate. The "thanks you too" type of anon who always had the egg on his face. 4chan humor being derived, ironically, so heavily from Jewish humor, the early days were a sort of good natured lament of our nebbish souls. Even when this character took his wins, they were always in lonesome, private little ways, like the story of the crow factions.This modern jestermaxxed anon is strange to me. I do not know him. His victories are facile, and his whole existence feels cheap.
>>43298762So you're saying that the ideal protagonist is a goofy slapstick loser who constantly suffers at the hooves of mares that torture him, unintentionally or not?So Sunburst.
>>43298775Sunburst is Jewish comedy protagonist coded, yeah. Look at his mom.
>>43299046With a beard like that, he must be the pony version of Orthodox.
>>43299058He is a great wizard, after all.
>>43299096Is he over 30?
>>43298762>4chan humor being derived, ironically, so heavily from Jewish humor, the early days were a sort of good natured lament of our nebbish soulsI've always seen it more as being descended from older anime/manga writing. In manga, especially a lot of the 90s/00s manga that was popular while 4chan culture was forming, the protagonist was always this meek, awkward turbonormie who kept stumbling into socially awkward situations and making it worse by babbling like an autist.
>>43299422>meek, awkward turbonormie who kept stumbling into socially awkward situations and making it worse by babbling like an autist.That’s called autism.
>>43298775>goofy slapstickcan't really say that's what I was describing
>>43299623Me with Days of Wasp and Spider
>>43297492>flavor of the week, but there's no show now so it's a crossover with what's currently popular instead>>43297820>Anyone here try to write serious lit fics recently?No, I find actual /lit/ shit to be incredibly boring. If I ever tried to do no hooves, it would probably be some flavor of anime shonen schlock, because that's at least fun.>>43297959A far worse feeling is having a 1k uvoted deadfic that 100% would rocket to to the top of the update feature pile the second you post a new chapter and get dozens of comments, but instead of writing it, you spend the last three months writing an 80k niche fetish story that gets a hundred views and five comments total.
>>43299623Me with Electro Swing
>>43299098Centimetres, yeah
>>43299874That's pityful for a full-grown stallion.
>>43299877The ponies are little.
Multi-layered pony racism, ho!>/FSBC/I'm writing this before I read ch.7, so possibly some things are a little outdated.To get it out of the way: It's an Unhole Whole story. The prose styl is rather good- -but it reeds worse due too common technical errars and type-o's. Although if you can look past that- -or if you've read enough of UH to be at peace with those- -the rest of the package here is rather good, I'd say. It has a very "low level", unpretentious feel to the prose. Perhaps going too far, and the one thing I dislike there is him being very, very telly when saying how the characters feel at any given moment. But it flows smoothly and is paced well, which is arguably much more important. Oh, and he's extremely based about using pony language in his fic!As for the story, I'm hooked, too. The story is very good at creating the contrast between the very show-like behavior of the main ponies and the unsettling things that happen in the ancient castle. Also, the characters, like usual in UH stories, are written with very easily recognizable, usually appealing personalities. Of course, here it does a double duty of making (You) invested in them as the supernatural horror elements continue to become more threatening, but Muguet, Fleur, Silver, and Snipper are all very distinct, and you get a good sense of their personalities far more quickly than usual in stories. I like them, even with Snipper being shown as the potential 'villain' (which easily could be a red herring). In addition to that, the mystery/horror of the castle is paced extremely appropriately. There don't seem to be any immediately visible malicious actors, but there are just enough unsettling elements to keep you on edge and waiting for further explanations.In short, I think he has an excellent storytelling intuition for more fun, unpretentious fics like this one. And so far we've dodged UH's autistically million-layered worldbuilding, which is generally a good thing, imo. Grounding the story in canon timeline helps there. The ponies' ages are a bit weird, as is *also* typical of this author. Putting Rarity at ~29 and Sweetie at ~14 is an opinion you can have, I guess, but then you add Muguet and Fleur at ~17 and ~25, respectively, and some scenes with them become kind of weird. Like when Sweetie calls a 30-year-old stallion hot. I am deliberately ignoring the snippet about Muguet implying she was a whore because that doesn't make sense with what she says about white ponies and neither does it explain how she survived between 0 and [insert-number-here] years old. And Muguet is just too good. I mean, they all are, but Muguet especially!
>>43299920(2/2)Also, on the topic of worldbuilding, the traces of tribalism/racism are expected in this fic, and the whole "White Unicorn" matter is a major part of the plot ("breeding with the coloreds", lmao), but there is a rather strange emphasis on ponies being naked. Fleur being hot (a fact we also see mentioned a lot) is only so a bit of an excuse. Still, though, I really-really like those ponies, the mystery is interesting, and the horror elements sprinkled in are just unsettling enough. On that last point, I was actually rather impressed. Yes, he relies on extremely basic and overused cliches a lot, but it comes together in a pretty coherent whole, and the sense of wrongness in those Sweetie Belle scenes is conveyed well. Those are rather creepy for a written story.Also, I'm late already, and there are several more things that I'd like to say, but instead I'll just say that holy shit, Muguet the batpony maid is perfect, and if anything bad happens to her I'll be extremely upset. She's just too good, and she needs to be protected at all costs! Oh and yeah, despite the fic's less serious tone, Rarity's personal struggles are kind of pointed. Ouch.To sum it up: It is an Unwhole Hole fic. Perhaps it might be one of the better ones out there, but either way, it's exactly what you'd expect, and that "what you'd expect" is, dare I say, good. I don't recall if I favorited the last UH fic, but this one appears to be very promising. Next week, we're finishing this fic!
>>43299923>the sense of wrongness in those Sweetie Belle scenesBut she's a normal pony.
>>43299948There's nothing wrong with wanting to kill Twilight Sparkle!
>>43299920I’m excited to be participating for a second time.You can expect this to be like my first…essay? Long, and reading far too deeply into things.Before my second read through, I reflected on my first and made some observations:1. The castle is making Rarity age faster. Sweetie Belle, to Rarity’s horror, notices “A” gray hair in her mane. And—I think—there’s a later scene where Rarity remarks on her several gray hairs.2. Shining Armour, is—at least twice—referred to as “odd”. The only other white male unicorn we see in this story is the mysterious horror monster unicorn. Are the males cursed somehow? Fleur specifically mentions needing a female heir, but generally it’s the male heir who inherits, (I know that this is likely just because Equestria is a more female centric society, but I thought it worth mentioning.)3. I think that the end of chapter 2 where SB bites into a rotten apple could be foreshadowing. SB keeps getting covered in bruises, sort of like a fruit.With that out of the way, here’s what I found during my reread.1. Rarity’s “blue” mane.Rarity’s mane is going gray,—at least, that’s what Rarity thinks—but as the story:>”Sweetie Belle was indeed holding a long, white hair”,and Sweetie Belle herself:>”It’s not even gray. It’s white”,call attention to, it’s actually going white—not gray.This is an important distinction because in chapter 2 Rarity finds a painting of Fleur with an older white unicorn and:>”although she had piercing blue eyes and a pale blue and white mane. . . . Rarity was immediately able to recognize the elder unicorn as Couleur De’Lis, Fleur’s mother.”Rarity’s blue mane is being drained of colour, becoming like the mane of Fleur’s mother, it isn’t due to aging. Okay, I know what you’re thinking:“Rarity’s mane isn’t blue!”I know that! …But I don’t think the author does:>”Rarity took up a brush, she noticed several gray hairs inside her once beautiful blue mane.”I’d be willing to overlook this if it wasn’t for the story stating that the “gray” hairs are actually white. But as it does, I’m confident this will be relevant in the second half.Before we move on I want to point out this scene in chapter 6 where Rarity shares her concerns about getting old with Fleur; who at one point:>”suddenly leaned forward and wrapped Rarity in a hug.”What’s interesting about this is that in the previous paragraph Rarity does this:>”But now…I’m starting to get old.” Rarity pushed back her hair with her magic, revealing the several gray strands beneath.”Immediately after Fleur sees that Rarity’s blue mane is becoming white—not gray—just like her mother’s, she hugs her.I’m…reading into this too much, aren’t I?(1/4)
>>432999562. PollardingRight near the beginning of the story there’s these two paragraphs; both—though mostly the second—have massive amounts of (potential) foreshadowing/symbolism.In the first paragraph, Sweetie Belle looks out of the carriage and sees that the road is lined with:>”evenly spaced pollarded willows.”she observes them as being:>”strange, knobby trees that had been forced into their twisted shapes by centuries of cultivation. Their shape was strange, like . . . trees that had long since died and yet somehow retained some semblance of what they had once been.”If we want to properly understand the significance of this paragraph—and the next—There’s something we need to do first.We need to learn about pollarding:>Pollarding is an ancient pruning technique where a tree’s upper branches are cut back to the main trunk or structural framework.-Why is it used?>Rejuvenation: maintains trees in a juvenile state, which can extend their overall lifespan.-Key Considerations:>The process must be carried out during the late winter or early spring months to minimise shock.>”upper branches . . . cut back to the main trunk or structural framework.”When we think of what a tree represents, I’m sure that what quickly comes to mind for all of us is that of a family tree. And, of course, the youngest members of a family are on the highest, up most branches, while the eldest are closest to the trunk.>”carried out during . . . late winter or early spring”In the second chapter there’s two mentions of it being early spring:>”she suddenly felt cold. It was probably because of the wind, which . . . still carried the chill of winter despite it being spring”and:>”The hall felt cold, and it likely was. This was an old and large castle, and spring had only come recently in northern Prance.”I believe we can also think of the seasons in a more metaphorical way.Look at this passage from when Rarity first meets Muguet:>”Rarity looked at the thestral and felt a sudden pang of jealousy. She was just barely entering marehood, and at the age where she would be the most beautiful.”Now look at this one from chapter 5:>”Just fears left over from the vestiges of the fillyhood that Sweetie Belle was on the verge of exiting.”I would say that Muguet and Sweetie Belle are just about to enter “spring”.Whereas by looking at this passage—from just before Rarity meets Muguet:>”Her whole appearance was that of a pony just beginning to pass her prime. Once, she had been beautiful, but now that beauty was fading- -and as old as she looked now, within a few years her appearance would be far, far worse.”We see that Rarity is most definitely not in “spring”, though, we could argue whether whatever season she’s in is “late winter”.(2/4) Pt.1
>>43299959Knowing this, we can now properly understand the second paragraph.Here’s the end of the last one:>”Their shape was strange, like . . . trees that had long since died and yet somehow retained some semblance of what they had once been.”And now the second paragraph:>”Which, Sweetie Belle realized, was probably true. For all she knew, those marshy green fields could have once held hundreds of willows. It was only the pollarded ones that survived now, though, because the same pruning that had destroyed their native forms had rendered them nearly immortal so long as it continued. Or at least that was her understanding of it; her cutie mark, after all, was not in arboriculture.”There’s three segments of this paragraph that interest me.>A:“For all she knew, those marshy green fields could have once held hundreds of willows.”Compare that segment with this passage from chapter 2:>”A long table, longer than any Rarity had ever seen, had been set up in the center of the room. It would have been able to accommodate a meeting of the nobility, or even to have Celestia herself in attendance should the need arise.”It seems that Château De’Lis once housed many, many ponies—for all we know; it “could have once held hundreds of” ponies.>B:“only the pollarded ones . . . survived . . . because the same pruning that had destroyed their native forms had rendered them nearly immortal so long as it continued.”There’s a scene in chapter 2 that strongly suggests that Fleur’s mother had—or has?—lived for a very long time, such as:>”Fleur’s mother, it seemed, had possessed a strong appreciation for historical garments. Many of the images, . . . showed her and her guests dressed in clothing characteristic of what was worn . . . a century and a half prior to the modern age.”and:>”Couleur herself . . . appearing in the epitome of aristocratic dress, although in a style that Rarity had only seen preserved in glass cases at the Manehattan Fashion Museum.”The most interesting part of this segment however, is:“destroyed their native forms”I’ve got this theory that Fleur and her mother, despite the “perfection of their svelte bodies”, do not possess their “native forms”. Their bodies, perfect as they may be, are just a semblance of what the members of the De’Lis family used to look like.I have a suspicion that the “native form” of the De’Lis family was that of an alicorn.>C:“Or at least that was her understanding of it; her cutie mark, after all, was not in arboriculture.”This last part appears perfectly innocuous, but is actually very relevant.In fact, I have enough to say about this that I’m giving it its own section.(2/4) Pt.2
>>432999603. Cutie marksIn this story, Sweetie Belle has:>”a music-based special talent. . . . She pointed to her flank, . . . “I can hear things you can’t.”Notice that a cutie mark lets you sense things related to your talent that those without a similar one, cannot.This passage from chapter 5 gives us more insight:>”The phonograph . . . began playing, . . . it was not especially bad. Having a cutie mark that related to music, she was more discerning than most ponies when it came to that field. . . . the . . . music . . . had certainly been performed with great technical precision. The phonograph was, likewise, of extremely high quality. . . . the only defect . . . likely resulted from . . . the disk itself, either from being pressed poorly or from having been damaged by time and temperature fluctuations.”Oh, interesting, having “a music-based special talent”, lets her assess the quality of—not just the music itself; but things related to music, such as the disc and player.“Why is this relevant?” I hear you ask, why, we just need to look at this passage, (also from chapter 5):>”in a few places tattered banners hung that showed what Sweetie Belle assumed was the De’Lis family insignia, the same one that Fleur had for a cutie mark.”Fleur has a “family-based special talent”.From what we know about cutie marks from Sweetie Belle, we can expect Fleur to:A. Be “more discerning than most ponies when it” comes to family or family-related subjects:>Fleur “tends to be very particular with who she hires”>”Knowing that she had gone out of her way to hire white ponies, . . . made Sweetie Belle feel a bit warmer toward her. It confirmed that Rarity was very good at picking her friends.”Could All white ponies be related to her? Also, did Rarity pick Fleur as her friend, or was it the other way around?B. Assess the quality of things related to her talent that others cannot.>”Your sister, . . . Her magic is strong, no? Her display last night was quite impressive.”>”Sweetie Belle?” said Rarity, confused.>”Do you have another sister?” asked Fleur,“>“No, . . . And not that I want to disparage her skills, but…she only levitated a plate of food.”>”It is not a matter of raw strength, . . . It is in precision, reaction time, perception. And in these matters your sister is quite gifted for her age.”>”Oh,” said Rarity,”Fleur can tell that Sweetie Belle, a white unicorn, has strong magic whereas—forget Rarity—not even Sweetie Belle herself can.(3/4)
>>432999634. Hated? Or feared?In chapter 4, Muguet tells Sweetie Belle what “blancos” means, saying:>”It is a very, very bad slur. Because they hate us. For our color.”Hate? They seem more afraid to me. They say blancos the same way someone might say, BEES! Or, BEAR!Look at this passage from chapter 1:>”As the pair of them walked down the road, Sweetie Belle even saw an entire group of children her own age take one look at them, stare wide eyed in fright for a moment, and then scatter.”>”Blancos!” cried one of them as he fled. “Blancos ici!”To be fair, Muguet does imply that unicorns are different:>”To- -to say that to you like that! It isn’t the same! Not with unicorns! And yet- -yet they still did…”A little later Muguet asks:>”Did you not wonder why Silver has only one sighted eye?”Saying:>”That eye, he lost it because they beat him.”>”The ponies in his village. When they caught him trying to beg for a loaf of bread. He nearly died. His left eye was ruined in the attack.”That word choice of “ruined” is interesting, I take that as meaning destroyed. However, at the end of chapter 7 we see Silver’s ruined eye:>”The blow had also listened his eyepatch, and Rarity could now see the pale sightless eye beneath.”I wouldn’t call his eye “ruined”, would you? Also, could this really be a result of getting beaten?5. Segregation?In chapter 1, while they’re in the village, Sweetie Belle notices that:>”The majority of the townsfolk, . . . were either earth-ponies or, strangely, thestrals.”A little later Sweetie Belle pulls out a map and tells Rarity:>”There’s actually three of these little villages here.”Considering that this one only has earth ponies, each one may have a different type of pony.(4/4)
>>43299920>batpony flying onto the roof, peeking over, calling them filthy whites and hissing before running offKek, really sets the tone>random insane backstory for rarity >high-threat count towels (and sheets)I don't know if I remember Equestria 485,000 being this bad, but there is a lot of typos here. Also I'm not sure why, but each chapter ends with gibberish or straight up wingdings>wake up sick, bruised and maybe pissing bloodare they getting fucking raped?>approaching thirtyFucking kek, lads im cooked. Also it seems to be leaning very heavily and obviously into Rarity hating her degrading mortal body and I think it could've benefitted from being more subtle maybe>"Inbred to mental retardation, perhaps?"Kek, definitely the best line in the fic, and then she makes Muguet flinch lol>Muguet hears music for the first timeKinda cute I guess, for about 30 seconds lol>[Glass him]Huh, what a spot to end. Well, I think I like it so far. The plot seems to be interesting, but in classic horror fashion Sweetie Belle acts terribly unconcerned for how concerned she seems to be. I can perhaps chalk up wondering out of her room at night to the hauntedness fucking with her, but maybe you should tell some people and be a little more adamant about what's happening. And fucking KEK at the standard De Lis household response being 'Oh that, it's normal to have the worst fucking time of your life here. Eat the food, break out in hives. Drink the water, start fucking dying while your body tries to adapt. Go to sleep, get fucking raped and beat. Open your eyes at all after dark, see dead ponies and get cussed out, threatened and sp00ked by the staff. Go outside the walls, get lynched.' What an amazing experience. At least Sweetie can hang out with Muguet now. Hopefully she has them sleep in the same room since that's when everything bad happens. But so far she seems too big of a fan of Celestia's idiot ball to suggest that. Also for some reason I was not expecting Fleur to actually be in the fic. It definitely sounds like there should be a different head of the house. Both from the description and the in world lore. Fleur isn't even close to being 30 and there's no one older than her in the house? Did her parents have her when they were like 50 or what? Anyways, I am enjoying it. Even if that enjoyment is heavily hampered by a typo in every other paragraph. And now that I'm thinking about it, I kinda DO remember 485,000 being similar in that regard. But I am looking forward to the 2nd half and seeing the mystery start to unravel.
>>43299920>Snipper being shown as the potential 'villain' (which easily could be a red herring).I feel very confident that Feathery Snipper is in fact, the—or at least a—villain. I say this purely because she clearly wants to preserve the old, as demonstrated by her:>”constructing a kind of personal museum in an unused hall of the castle’s old section.”My reason for thinking that this means she’s a villain, is that I strongly believe that the main conflict/theme of this story is, or will be, “sacrificing the new to preserve the old”. Something that I’ve (hopefully) demonstrated with the 2nd section of my…essay on pollarding and its symbolism.Actually, I’ll make a prediction for something that will happen during the stories climax.When Sweetie Belle first sees the manor she describes:>”herself facing a stunning Romanesque building. The front portion was long and multi-leveled. . . . and it looked nearly modern-“Then she looks behind it:>”-but behind it seemed to sit the remainder of the building, or a second one completely: a massive structure with a number of thick, soaring towers and round walls. . . . they had been perfectly maintained- -or even reconstructed in modern times from the look of them.”>”To Sweetie Belle, the front building looked like a mansion . . . and the rear like something out of a storybook.”There’s a clear dichotomy here between the new and the old.I predict that during the climax everypony has to escape from the castle and once they’re out the old part collapses, leaving the new, nearly modern part, unscathed. This would represent, “destroying the old to save the new”.
Also I forgot to mention it, but it's quite horny literally which is at odds with just how pony the language they use is. And the language they use is in fact excellent. Also at odds is the very non-pony eastern territories that we get glimpses of and the backstories of the characters from there. I do recall 485,000 remaining very pony throughout. At least when ponies were involved like with the evil cult actually being not that evil>>43299920>but it reeds worse due too common technical errars and type-o'ssuch a shame just how much a single proof reader would do for this author>Oh, and he's extremely based about using pony language in his fic!yeah. I somehow forgot in my first post but it's actually superb. After snipper calls sweetie possibly retarded her crash out is peak pony>Muguet, Fleur, Silver, and Snipper are all very distinct, and you get a good sense of their personalities far more quickly than usual in stories. I like them, even with Snipper being shown as the potential 'villain' (which easily could be a red herring)Yeah the characters are nice, and I don't remember if it was ch6 or 7 but Snipper is definitely the pony who is right about everything>In short, I think he has an excellent storytelling intuition for more fun, unpretentious fics like this one.agreed>I am deliberately ignoring the snippet about Muguet implying she was a whore because that doesn't make sense with what she says about white ponies and neither does it explain how she survived between 0 and [insert-number-here] years oldYeah it actually makes no sense at all. "I don't want to see or even touch white ponies... HOWEVER" yeah okay sure>>43299923>but instead I'll just say that holy shit, Muguet the batpony maid is perfect, and if anything bad happens to her I'll be extremely upsetbased, even rarity thinks she's perfect>>43299956>Before my second read through, I reflected on my first and made some observations:Read through this week's chapters or the fic?>Shining Armour, is—at least twice—referred to as “odd”fucking kek I forgot to really note it down but yeah that's funny. And even if the males are cursed, why do Rarity and Sweetie Belle think that? I don't care that much for Shining, but I'm not sure why he is depicted as some sort of freak in this fic, I mean we're clearly late in canon and the guy is married to an Alicorn>chapter 2 where SB bites into a rotten apple could be foreshadowing. SB keeps getting covered in bruises, sort of like a fruit.Maybe she's gay for Muguet or Muguet is going to suck her dry kek. Also it was filled with maggots which was disgusting>Rarity’s blue mane is ... becoming like the mane of Fleur’s motherInteresting, maybe Sweetie is bruised because every night someone comes into her room and forcibly tries stretching her body out kek. either trying to turn her into a proper noble unicorn or maybe more far fetched, turn her into a new Fleur if Rarity is turning into a new [fleur's mother]
>>43299959>2. PollardingWell this is definitely interesting and I'd actually think you're right about this for sure. Everyone in the staff and the house is young except Rarity (kek) and I think Snipper since she's been there since Fleur's mother's time. And Rarity is the only one who doesn't bruise and assumedly Snipper also. So it could mean that Rarity is passed the point where you would pollard her, so she isn't getting bruised when she sleeps. But that doesn't really mix with rarity turning into Fleur's mother, unless she is becoming a replacement body or something and the mother is just ok with being a short non-noble unicorn for a bit. And regarding Snipper, she seems to know the most about the evilness of the household. She tells sweety belle to not eat anything they give her. So perhaps Snipper has learned how to escape the pollarding process and that's why she is still there but not described as young and why she's so abrasive and has a survivor mentality.Also Fleur is VERY overjoyed when she learn's sweetie belle is staying with Rarity and is constantly staring at her and so do all the sp00ky ponies at night. So it definitely gives off the vibe that Sweetie is maybe at the perfect time to start all of the processes and now the powers that be of the house are intently focused on her>>43299960>”Their shape was strange, like . . . trees that had long since died and yet somehow retained some semblance of what they had once been.”>I have a suspicion that the “native form” of the De’Lis family was that of an alicorn.definitely makes sense for their stature and from the statue we see in the 'museum'>>43299963>Fleur has a “family-based special talent”.Wait what? I think you're reading too far into this part. I could maybe see you arguing her cutie mark means she knows about her own family, but I don't think a fleur de lis means anything about family in general. I can't imagine this gives her insight into any sort of family related topics unless you mean relating to her own family>Could All white ponies be related to her?This seems like a stretch but I did like the lore that the De Lis have mixed with the Sparkles in the past, although I maybe would've expected her to have more to say about that. Would Twilight ascending, even as a purple pony, have been a good omen of a (at least once) noble line literally returning to form? She really just brushes past that part though>Also, did Rarity pick Fleur as her friend, or was it the other way around?That's an interesting thought>>43299967>I wouldn’t call his eye “ruined”, would you?Yeah I think I would kek. It no longer fulfills it's only function, it's now ruined. >Considering that this one only has earth ponies, each one may have a different type of pony.But it also has thestrals, that said this could still maybe work. Earth, bat, pegasi.
>>43300091>My reason for thinking that this means she’s a villain, is that I strongly believe that the main conflict/theme of this story is, or will be, “sacrificing the new to preserve the old”.Ah I thought of her more as someone who broke or escaped the cycle and is trying to save Sweetie Belle in some sort of defiance against the De Lis family. But maybe she really could be a groundskeeper and be deeply in the cycle as well, but that just brings confusion to why she would be trying to get Sweetie to stop eating the food and drink the give her>Actually, I’ll make a prediction for something that will happen during the stories climax.Ah good catch with the buildings too, there really is a lot of old vs new. And that's a pretty damn good guess lol
>>43299920I'm quite enjoying this fic so far. An ancient ominous castle in the middle of nowhere is always a great setting for the amounts of mystery and isolation it naturally creates. Something is happening beneath the surface, but no one's gonna tell you what because that's not how things are done here, so Sweetie Belle here is left to figure it out on her own. The casual prejudice of the locals weaved through the entire story helps convey how out of their element SB and Rarity are. In addition, SB seems to further be getting alienated from Rarity as the latter's getting consumed by her workload, age-related insecurities, and a fling with the butler well, maybe not so much after the end of Chapter 7. Sweetie herself is really charming and well-written here, with the cute little wordplays and the most direct attitude out of any character present. There's not much actual plot progression so far, it's mostly setting up the mystery and the suspense, but the chapters are short enough and the horror is memorable enough to not make it a slog. The whispers in the endless hallways and especially the secret of the record were really well-put together. The prose flows quite well, too, though this guy definitely needs an editor, so that Sweetie doesn't have to smell any more footstuffs.I think the author tips his hand a bit too much in Chapter 2 with the hints that at least one person in the De Lis family lived an unnaturally long lifespan. For now, I predict some macabre ritual involving the blood of white ponies to rejuvenate themselves. It's interesting how Rarity might fit into this with her worsening insecurity (which I appreciated becoming a serious plot point after being a seemingly innocuous gag in Chapter 1). Whether she will succumb to Fleur's influence or familial bonds will win out, and how malicious Fleur is in the first place. Looking forward to finishing it next week.
>>43300179>though this guy definitely needs an editor, so that Sweetie doesn't have to smell any more footstuffs.or sleep in high threat count sheets lmao>For now, I predict some macabre ritual involving the blood of white ponies to rejuvenate themselves.Ah could be. Ch7 ends with Rarity literally just staring at the butler's blood on the floor for minutes. I really think we have all of the elements at this point we just don't know how they're all gonna come together. The club has made a couple guesses at this point but I guess we'll find out in week 2
>>43300096>Read through this week's chapters or the fic?This week’s chapters. I’ll start reading the rest of it tomorrow.>>43300136>that's a pretty damn good guess lolI predicted that the old part would collapse, but it’s more likely to explode—violently.>”Blew up? How?” Muguet gasped. “Was it a gas leak? Because that’s something we need to be VERY careful about here. These walls have so many gas pipes in them…”
>>43299920>possibly some things are a little outdatedYeah, 7 proves your assumptions about their age wrong>him being very, very telly when saying how the characters feel at any given momentI actually thought the fic did a good job immersing you into the characters' emotions. It's the descriptions that can occasionally get awkwardly telly, like this:>Tall, ancient yews stood against fields and paths that broke off and were only visible from the main pathway in passing, leaving them dark and mysterious.>>43299923>MuguetI wanted to bash her for being a one-dimensional woobie the author really wants you to like, but she ended up getting a bit more characterization and did some things besides doing her best Dobby the elf impression.I'm particularly intrigued by what Snipper meant when she said "Don't eat anything she gives you". She could either mean Fleur, or Muguet acting in her interests behind a friendly facade.>her backstoryYeah it's weird with what's established, but maybe the nobles in the land have their kinks.>>43299956>Fleur hugGood catch. If intentional, it gives the seemingly benign scene a secret meaning while being well-hidden enough that only an attentive reader will make the connection.Pollarding and the two sides of the castle definitely seem like deliberate symbols. The season the story takes place in, probably not. >>43300076>Fleur isn't even close to being 30 and there's no one older than her in the house?I'm inclined to believe Fleur might be older than she looks. Though if there was rejuvenation stuff going on, that raises a question of how her mom died at all.
>>43299920This week's fic has set out to answer the most coveted of questions: "What would happen if you put Rarity and Sweetie Belle in Dracula?"I haven't UH's stuff, other than that one Derpy fic. Overall, the story has been enjoyable. UH needs a better spell checker though. Every chapter ends with weird garbage text, and there is a persistent work confusion problem.Fleur invites Rarity to her super creepy vampire castle to make wedding dresses. Sweetie Belle is here, serving as an unforeseen variable and the one that does all the real sleuthing. Rarity is too busy making dresses and worrying about her encroaching hag status to notice all the red flags. That works though, because the audience is still tallying up all the red flags as more of the story unfolds. The story does a good job at playing to each of the sisters strength and making each of their segments feel distinct. The first half is kinda slow and set-up heavy, but I think it pays off around chapter 5, where things getting darker. It's a good mystery story. Because of the tags (mystery) I'm naturally suspicious of everything. This story was published in 2017 and with that in mind I thought it was odd that how white coats are treated as a rarity. I kept reading and realized that idea that they are is more important, like black cats being bad luck or Salem witches.I'm also looking forward to seeing if Shining Armor catches any more strays. They really aren't letting bro off the hook in this white unicorn story.
>>43299920>Muguet, Fleur, Silver, and Snipper are all very distinct, and you get a good sense of their personalities far more quickly than usual in stories.definitely. it's really well done. i love how, for example, you can tell that muguet's foreign just from the way she talks in contrast with sweetie belle, even though she doesn't actually use any incorrect grammar; just very slightly abnormal wording.>I am deliberately ignoring the snippet about Muguet implying she was a whore because that doesn't make sense with what she says about white ponies and neither does it explain how she survived between 0 and [insert-number-here] years old.i disagree. i can absolutely buy that blancos' untouchable status does not extend to prostitution, simply because the job is lowly and demeaning enough to suit them. i could be wrong, but i'm pretty sure there are some real world caste systems where this is the case too.as for her somehow doing this her entire life, i don't think she did. muguet explains that her parents abandoned her because they believed she was cursed. this could just be a common enough thing to the point that muguet can assume their reasoning, or it could be because it happened when muguet was old enough to understand directly. and immediately beforehand, muguet mentions how rare it is for a white batpony to be born. maybe it took them many years to come to the conclusion that she was cursed, or for somepony else to convince them she was. plus, harrowing tragic backstories like muguet's only make characters even cuter to me. muguet's already adorable, but her being forced to prostitue herself as a filly just to get by because her family abandonded her and it was nigh impossible for her to find any other work just makes her even cuter in my eyes, so i'm biased.>>43300076>Also I'm not sure why, but each chapter ends with gibberish or straight up wingdingsdid you see the one in chapter 7? it's actually coherent.
>>43300265>did you see the one in chapter 7? it's actually coherent.>ght. I woke_>�i|ikek
>>43299920any chance you guys could start throwing in a link to the story or at least its name? I like reading along. Even if it's just in a separate comment after a review it'd be appreciated.
>>43300298https://www.fimfiction.net/story/375944/one-white-unicorn
>>43300298FYI You can see what fics we're talking each Sunday if you look at the OP. If that date has passed you can read the thread to see which fic we're reading that week. Also, for this week's fic, if you have any thoughts after reading it, no spoilers past chapter 7 this time pls.
>>43299956I feel like your high-quality analyses are being wasted here. You should turn them into blog posts on the site so that they'll be preserved and findable.
Right, I've been intending to ask something.>>43289325>In this regard it's still not nearly as far gone as the (relatively nice) chapter our threadly pregbro wrote for last year's corpse, but kind of similar.What?
>>43300752You know what you did.
>>43301104Oh, that, kek. I thought that's what you meant.
>>43299956Very interesting! Particularly because we haven't finished the fic yet, so some of them could be confirmed in the story itself. But I'll be commenting as I go, rather then all at once after catching up with the discussion.>1. The castle is making Rarity age faster.I don't necessarily think so? I think the story is just drawing a lot of focus to her aging, because one of the key parts of the narrative here is the youthfulness versus the aging and the old. It's putting strain on Rares, no doubt to make her more thematically involved in the De'Lis mystery. She's also not suffering from the castle's 'curse'. The most classic horror explanation would be that Fleur's family is/was kept young and beautiful using less than wholesome means (blood sacrifice, anyone?).>2. Shining ArmourThis one I don't think is too important. Bro is just catching strays from being a White Unicorn.>3. SB bites into a rotten apple could be foreshadowing100% this, yeah. Definitely. More of the "old rots and decays / young rejuvenates" stuff.>1. Rarity’s “blue” mane.Oh, interesting! I didn't notice, but I am totally buying this as intentional. Also, when you say:>“Rarity’s mane isn’t blue!”>I know that! …But I don’t think the author does:You should also know that one other fic by this author that we've read also featured some... very questionable color descriptions, further supporting your argument. I don't think your reading of the Fleur hug is a stretch at all.>>43299959>2. PollardingYeah, all of this is definitely a deliberate symbol as well. It was so obvious that even I caught it right away, so clearly, the author must have put special care to make it idiot-proof. I find it funny that you went and quoted ChatGPT on the definition, but I suppose for definitions of stuff it's kinda reasonable and it, uh, matches the style of your posts. Your posts are the first to use the curly/fancy quote marks.>>43299960>A, B, CFleur's mother being extremely long-lived is a given, yeah, but I somewhat strongly disagree with the idea that their family were alicorns. Maybe I'm wrong, but they are extremely aristocratic, specifically the haughty kind that knows that they're better than the other races and is actually right about that. You CAN write alicorns this way, but even the show ascribes those traits precisely to the unicorn nobles, not the princesses.Also, as a supporting argument, alicorns are a huge deal in Unwhole Whole's canon and not something that could just exist like that. They are an eternal anomaly on a universe scale, and something that marks ponies as unique even to cosmic creatures that lived for aeons.>>43299963>Fleur has a “family-based special talent”.I think you're going way too deep here. I read that "only" as Fleur being an icon of sorts, a perfect White Unicorn coming from the perfect noble line, but not really more than that.
>>43300076>picI imagine that this fic's Rarity looks like exactly like this.>I don't know if I remember Equestria 485,000 being this badIt was exactly as bad, I think.>each chapter ends with gibberish or straight up wingdingsThis is also true for Hand of Doom by the same author. I think it was read by the other bookclub? Either way, we haven't figured out what this means, but there is /some/ pattern to the gibberish. Perhaps only the author knows.>are they getting fucking raped?You're not too far. I think they're getting drained of their vital energy.>Fucking kek, lads im cooked.To be fair, Hag!Rariry says it's worse for mares. But yeah, the "thematic" conflict with the decay and degradation of old age is extremely in-your-face. It is deliberate—he really didn't want you to miss it. I think that's okay, though? I'd prefer to have to use my brain, but UH's stories are supposed to be easy, fun reads where you don't *need* to think to hard about reading between the lines.>maybe you should tell some people and be a little more adamant about what's happeningOh but she does, repeatedly. It's just that, as you say, they shut her down with "shit just happens; it's harmless" so she tries to accept it despite everything telling her that it's wrong.>Did her parents have her when they were like 50 or what?I think you might be missing a 0 there. Or two zeros. Also, it's an Unwhole Whole story, so don't forget that unicorns presumably outlive earth ponies and the pegasi by like a factor of two or three here. But given how Fleur talks about her mother, it doesn't seem like she died of old age and natural causes.>>43300091>the main conflict/theme of this story is, or will be, “sacrificing the new to preserve the old”.True, but she could also mean well and not be an outright villain. Specifically, the warning she gives to Sweetie seems to imply there's some worse stuff happening that we (and Sweetie) can't see yet, and that Snipper is working to either prevent or contain it. She's also wise, and the only pony who has experience living in this castle under the previous white unicorn. Fleur aside, I mean. Which is all saying that she COULD easily be the villain, but I'd actually expect her to have a more nuanced role there. We'll see.>>43300096>And the language they use is in fact excellent.>Also at odds is the very non-pony eastern territories that we get glimpses ofSo, as an Unwhole Hole veteran, I can actually confirm that this is a feature. Without spoiling anything major for Hand of Doom, the part about ponies who seem to act like villains but end up having their (usually very pony) reasons and do the right thing when push comes to shove—that seems to be a crucial part of every story that this author writes. The non-pony threats are often malicious, but when even the undead liches who cast off their equinity are "pony", you can assume it's how the author writes ponyfics. Which is excellent, yeah, and a big part of why I liked his fics.
Where would you rank fics in general against the show? We're at least better than the comics and official books, that's for sure.
>>43301231/mlp/ has such an odd hateboner against the comics.
>>43300096>the guy is married to an AlicornThe amount of disrespect PRINCE Shining Armor gets in fics and the fandom is unreal. No one—zero people—name him when listing Equestria's royals. Blueblood gets mentioned a lot quicker.>Earth, bat, pegasi.This would have to be a bap town. There's no way there's a unicorn town out there. Also, I'll mention it again, but unicorns are a little more special in Unwhole Whole's other works (and I think he writes his fics in the same setting), so a unicorn town would be abnormal even with everything else put aside. But I doubt it matters much for this story.>>43300136>someone who broke or escaped the cycle andThat's how I'm imagining her right now, too, but I am not convinced this is the right reading yet.>>43300179>the chapters are short enough and the horror is memorable enough to not make it a slogYeah, it's pleasantly easy to follow and got lost in, which is a major achievement considering the technical quality of the writing. By the way, all of his fics are like this. We're still not sure if he's dictating his fics through a speech-to-text or just very dyslexic.>tips his hand a bit too much in Chapter 2In addition to what I said earlier about the author being uninterested in keeping this "hidden", I think it could also be that there are more layers to the mystery, so you're given the first for free as a starting point. We'll see.>>43300185>I really think we have all of the elements at this pointI really doubt it. There will be at least one or two more layers to the mystery, judging by the author's other fics. Unless this fic is an exception.>>43300208>immersing you into the characters' emotionsI do not mind those descriptions much. What I did mind was the constant, "Sweetie Belle felt afraid"-like sentences. It's so much nicer when it's shown through their behavior or said indirectly.>Fleur might be older than she looksWell it's either that or the opposite, and she's still uncorrupted by whatever gross magic they've been practicing in that castle. The fic could take it in either direction, but I'd rather her not be the fic's villain, I think. Also, Unwhole Whole doesn't strike me as a writer too eager to make a show character secretly evil. He seems to enjoy doing the opposite, actually.>>43300228>weird garbage textI'm inclined to believe it means something, since it shows up in at least one more fic of his, but I have no idea what it could mean.>The first half is kinda slow and set-up heavy,It is, but it's good set up. The horror segments come somewhat unexpectedly, and they really help the fic's pacing, preventing it from feeling too much like a Euro larp SoL.>They really aren't letting bro off the hook in this white unicorn story.Yeah, rip Shiny.>>43300265>just very slightly abnormal wording.Stuff like that makes the typos/mistakes even more annoying, because you can see that he's clearly capable of writing well, he just doesn't bother (or is unable) to proofread.
>>43301231I think there is such a thing as evil questions, which poison your mind in the process of thinking about them. It seems like considering questions should always be an honest and truth-growing endeavor, but some questions have only evil answers that taint your soul in the process of formulating them. "How does fanfiction compare to official works?" just gets you down an evil path. It's best not to compare and instead to just enjoy what one enjoys.
>>43301234Not me, I like them.
>>43301234I don't read the ones with the overarching stories, but I do like the slice of life ones. Like that one where Big Mac buys nails, or where Pinkie helps a circus performer, or most of the micro-series and friends forever issues.
>>43301229>This is also true for Hand of Doom by the same author. I think it was read by the other bookclub?nah it was definitely this one. There's still a bag full of Hand of Doom votes flying over my house rn>but UH's stories are supposed to be easy, fun readstrue enough, and they do achieve that quite well>Oh but she does, repeatedly. It's just that, as you say, they shut her down with "shit just happenstrue, but I was more talking about the male white unicorn that she keeps seeing in her room and perhaps being more adamant towards Rarity, although we all know she would brush it off lol>and that Snipper is working to either prevent or contain itYeah definitely what I'm thinking
Are there any fics halfway through that add a romantic subplot where there wasn't any and people were actually okay with that?
>fimfic doesn't let you paste raw htmlwhat is this garbageI've been gone for 13 years, what have they been doing?I guess I'll just convert my .md version to their bullshit bbcode because that should be the fastest
>>43301829Yeah, there are a few. Obviously ignoring anything tagged romance.Dangerous Business commits the sin of shipping AJ with an OC she meets like halfway through and of all the problems you could reasonably have with that fic, that ship isn't one.Celestia Code kind of does something like what you want, but it ships off the non-PoV character, so it's almost entirely played for drama.On a second thought, Hand of Doom was mentioned earlier and it definitely qualifies, to the point that it becomes a significant element of the main plot in the second half.
>>43301829Sooooorta Empty Horizons Book 2 in that Rarity gets roped into an arranged political marriage. Witch in Broad Daylight tricks you by thinking it's a shonen anime themed around movie horror cliches but surprise! It's actually TwiDash scootadopt.
>>43301264>The amount of disrespect PRINCE Shining Armor getsis entirely deserved. He's not a prince in his own right, he just married into royalty. He's Equestria's version of Camilla.
>>43301851>what have they been doingKnighty tried to update the site once, but he failed. It was about a year ago and he hasn't tried again since.
>>43301909He has cum inside more alicorns than any other pony in history.
>>43301909He's a prince consort. Like a first lady. His job is to look handsome and provide moral support for the boss lady until he inevitably dies by snu-snu.
>>43301829Sunset Shimmer Hunts The Undead (it's a sequel, but it does introduce Sunset x Barbie!Applejack somewhat randomly)The first part, Principal Celestia Hunts The Undead, also has a few romance scenes, but they're pretty minor and don't warrant a subplotApplejack's love life throughout these two stories is pretty much a retarded soap opera>is into Sunset but Sunset isn't into girls so she politely declines>tries dating Adagio but breaks up because Adagio is just using her>tries dating Limestone but breaks up because Limestone is too BPD>Adagio becomes her roommate and tries getting back together with her>Sunset ALSO becomes her roommate and decides that actually she likes girls now>they're both lusting for Applejack for a while and she keeps rejecting them until in the end it's implied she gets with SunsetSo this plotline ends more or less in the same place it would've ended if Sunset agreed all the way at the beginning, minus all the bullshit melodrama busyworkIt's still not too obnoxious because it all kinda happens in the background rather than being the sole focus.
>>43301478HoD is too long for the regular club. We read it with the more based club.
>>43301231Yeah, in comparison to those, I’d agree that most fics are pretty rank.
>>43301864>Hand of DoomRemind me what the romance there was again?
>>43302100Wait, it was the bug, right. Right?
>>43302100>>43302101Yeah, the bug with the doctor, flavored with his past with Do.And it plays a significant role in how he acts, when the red mask is used, etc., in addition to being relevant to his character arc.
>>43302080That title alone piqued my interest, I think I found something new to binge read. Thanks Anon
>>43302159I've read the first one. It was good fun.
>>43302159You think you're reading someone's WoD fanfic but it's actually tricking you into reading about hag Celestia's adoption and romantic troubles. So it's pretty good.
>>43301909>chosen for assortative mating by virtue of martial excellence>not a prince in his own rightit's like nobody ever thinks about what nobility is
>>43302080Technically at the end Applejack marries Adagio and the third one is Sunset getting insecure because she's largely realizing she's a side character in everyone else's life.
>>43302214They're a relic from the medieval period. Now, the only thing they do is traffic girls.
Managed to break my previous longest word count, finally. Still not done with the fic, too.
>>43302267Stop now so that you can have a deadfic like the rest of us
>>43302270Can't, all the missing bits are in the middle.
>>43301234The oneshots were good unless Fosgitt was the artist, but the story arcs were almost universally shit and only got laughably worse as time went on.>>43301851>Markdown againMove to a superior markup language and embrace the glory of centering text that medieval Germans knew how to do.
I was planning on clopping to this fic, but I started laughing too hard.
>>43302218Oh I see. I didn't read the third one because it seemed like a collection of SoL fluff without a story (since the readers were coming up with chapter ideas by that point). Glad to know the soap opera becomes even more needlessly convoluted
>>43302288Prostate, length?
>>43302285I write in latexThe .md version is for rentry, which has an extension for centering text anyways
It's like you idiots have never heard of Pandoc.
I write my actual novels on Fimfiction since there are automatic tools for ebook publishing / formatting that I'm going to pass them through anyway.
>>43302267Is this the adverb fetish fic
>>43303279Possibly.
>>43302663>write in one program, then import it to another that needs an extension to center text, then you still have to convert it to another markup language before you can upload it because no website uses MarkdownLeast complicated FOSS writing method.
>>43302663Why would you want to center text? Shakespeare never had to center text.
>>43303955Shakespear couldn't even keep his own name straight.
>>43304379Fics about Luna being silly?
>>43303945Not him, but I'm in a pretty comfortable spot. I write basically everything in Pandoc Markdown, with only the tiniest LaTeX imports when needed. This is almost always just like 5 lines in the YAML header to make the PDF export not suck. If I need anything truly sophisticated, I'll switch to Org Mode. I almost never do that.I have a friend who uses LaTeX for everything and I think that's insane, but he's a doctor with got a Mathematics degree from one of the best universities in the world so I understand. I hear good things about LyX but I only tried it once. And if you're a web dev then I guess that I'd understand doing everything in HTML.Aside from these exceptions, I can't imagine using anything else for writing. I wrote all of my careers stuff in Microsoft Word in my first year of university and I hate every time that I have to open it, like adding for adding the details of my most recent job or big success. Similarly, I regret writing all of my notes on fics in a terrible ad-hoc .txt format. Pic related.I wish that I did everything in Markdown. Markdown does 90% of what I want, Pandoc's LaTeX support does the extra 9%, and the final 1% just doesn't come up.
>>43304382https://www.fimfiction.net/story/395857/1001-cuddly-nights
>>43304382https://www.fimfiction.net/story/62270/Luna's-Librarian%2C-Twilight's-Moon
Hmm today I will read an HiE RGRE R63 princess TF fic ^ |clueful but lacking better options
>>43304472Update, I have decided to drop the HiE RGRE R63 princess TF fic
>>43304479Wow, really? Was it not good?
>>43304472link tho?
>>43304385Formatting is for mentally cucked people.
>>43304610Writing is for mentally cucked people.
>>43304488Yes. The prose left a lot to be desired, the characters were superficial and the plot is unfortunately structured nonsensically.>>43304535There is no literary value in it.
>>43304660Darn, and here I thought from the premise it'd be the peak of literature!
>>43304660>There is no literary value in it.A lot of bold assumptions about what I was secretly asking you.I asked for a link.
>>43304814The HIE genre is not for the faint of heart. It’s not just about sending humans into the world of Equestria; it’s about transcending the boundaries of fiction itself. Just as you wouldn't expect to stumble upon a Shakespearean play in a high school drama class, or find the nuances of a Tolstoy novel in a community book club, you simply cannot expect mere /fimfic/ posters to grasp and master the profound depths and soul-stirring complexities of the HIE genre. It's the apex of storytelling. Too intricate, too delicate, too soulful for most to comprehend, let alone capture in writing. The problem isn’t with the genre. The issue lies in its towering grandeur, which is just too monumental for the average writer. We don't lack good HIE stories; we lack the literary giants to pen them.
>>43304814It's essentially another episode of "I wish I could have wish fulfillment schlock written by actual competent writers". Every good writer is uninterested in writing my shitty fantasies, and every autist who has autistic fantasies to my taste is absolutely fucking incapable of writing.>>43304910Providing a link would achieve nothing since the story is useless and there is no point in looking at it. But you will likely spot it next time it gets into the feature box. It's the Celestia R63 RGRE HiE. Surely this cannot be hard to find if you want to search for it for some reason.
>>43305242Ooh, wait I know this one. Yeah fair, I already reviewed that shit in the RGRE thread.
>>43305242>I wish I could have wish fulfillment schlock written by actual competent writers"Me with everything Tatsurou writes.
>>43304660Makes you wonder who tf reads this shit. It’s the 2nd most viewed 2026 fic.>>43305313I thought this problem was bad with manga, but when I first started reading fics, hot damn. Never underestimate how disappointed you can feel at wasted potential.
>https://www.fimfiction.net/story/485500/harry-potter-and-the-prancing-of-poniesI'm going to read it.
>>43305242>I wish I could have wish fulfillment schlock written by actual competent writersThat's what commissions are for.
>>43305910I read stories because I want to discover things, not invent them.But also there are no commission writers that are even remotely decent either, with possibly the sole exception of Starscribe coming to mind. But Starscribe only ever writes exactly one thing so if I want a Starscribe story I can always read one of the dozens of existing ones.
There's not a single Pinkamena fic that's actually good, is there?
>>43305918To Perytonia is actually a pinkamena fic
>>43305918I remember What Is a Name? being at least okay, though I don't think it was really good or anything.
>>43305916>there are no commission writers that are even remotely decent eitherOutright wrong, they just don't get commissioned for things you read so you haven't found them.
>>43305932I read random shit at times and the only commissioned fics I've seen are either tons of varied porn short fics, or unreadable shit like David Silver.
>>43305313You want "Pony is adopted by X Marvel character" as a wish fulfillment shlock?
>>43305918There's just not a premise to it that doesn't come off as edgy in a childish way.
>>43306048The premise might be autistic but that's no reason for it to not be paced well.
>>43305916>But also there are no commission writers that are even remotely decent eitherI think I'm decent, but I also get to be picky with my clientele who like the same things as I do.
>>43306343You're a fetish one-shot writer, not applicable for generic long-form commissions
>>43306353My commissioners are actually the reason I've been getting better at longer stories. I'm pretty sure one guy wants one that'll surpass 100,000 words, kek.
>>43306343>>43284856
>>43306358Yeah but you're still the pregfag writer. Unless you're doing general fics now?Also how much does it cost to commission 100k wtf
>>43306363>Unless you're doing general fics now?If someone wants to pay my current prices, sure, kek.>Also how much does it cost to commission 100k wtfThis guy got in at $30 per thousand. It's funny, because the guy commissioned the same general idea across several other writers, and one reader who looked at all of them told me mine was the best because I wasn't just listing things off without rhyme or reason.
>>43306378>$3000 for a pregfag storyrespectable
>>43305934>tons of varied porn short ficsYeah, because that's what people pay you to write. Doesn't mean the writers are bad. A lot of them are but I'm good.
>>43306378How much is does that come out to, on a dollar/hour basis?
>>43306444>I’m goodTrips of truth. Following with Fimfic tradition you should stop writing 60,000 words in and waste everyone’s time and expectations.
>>43306455For the first two chapters—6,592 words—I was pretty slow, but I finished the third chapter—7,808 words—in not quite three weeks, though I only wrote for a week of that. I've been timing myself lately, and I managed about one thousand words per hour, sometimes a little better, sometimes a little worse. Now that I've speed up like this, my hourly rate isn't bad; I remember lamenting it earlier in the year.
Need a good list of audiobooks to listen to. any list out there?
>>43305918What a weird way to ask for recshttps://www.fimfiction.net/story/524905/her-bitter-half
>>43306444>I'm goodPost evidence.
>>43306378>the fic in question
>>43306778kekIt can't be helped that carrying a dragon egg works out a bit differently.
And yet still no wholesome impregnation.
>>43306455>on a dollar/hour basis?At one point, he was writing 100 words an hour, so literal third world wages.>>43306613Project Hail Mary was great. If you're a Trek nerd, Garak's actor narrated his autobiography thing, A Stitch in Time though it's kind of slow. Sandman has a nice radio drama feel to it with all the VAs, but Gayman's style can feel a bit pretentious at times and it appears to be a deadfic now with the whole scat rape allegations. Also liked it a lot better when it was making overt connections to DC.
>>43307036>At one point, he was writing 100 words an hour, so literal third world wages.To be clear, I was writing 100 words and then taking a break for the rest of the hour, but yes, the hourly rate was still terrible. I'm glad I mentioned this here and got mocked for it, since it led me to improve. Today, for comparison, I wrote for about seventy minutes in two sessions and got 1,151 words written, but I kept getting interrupted in the first session.
>>43307036Any links to those? Having issues finding them
>>43307036>>43307051So what's the value conversion of preggo words to David Silver words?
Any good "Meet the Parents" fics, or fics that cover that scene well? Doesn't have to be FlutterMac.
>>43307531My next Twinkie fic.
>>43307540I was gonna say my Twinkie fic too but then I realized I never got to writing that scene.
TwiPie>Twinkie, FYI
>>43307611I want to eat their Twinkie if you know what I mean
>>43307611Aren't they the same thing
>>43307629A pie is more filling than a twinkie.
>>43307632You could eat both.
>>43307540>>43307632Zaid, I appreciate your presence in the WWWM threads, but 4chan doesn't automatically clear your name field.
>>43307635Is there a fic with some angst about Twilight seeing Spike as her child but Spike only views her like an older sister?
>>43308053>older sibling who tolerates little brother and gives him menial tasks to keep him from annoying hervs>parental figure who neglects child in favor of personal interests and uses him for labor instead of enrolling him in schoolShe better hope she's just an older sibling or foal protective services are gonna get her ass.
>>43308404>instead of enrolling him in schoolLiving with Twilight Sparkle gave him a better education than he'd be able to get anywhere else and you know this.
>>43308432He could barely spell some words in episode 1.
>>43308432I'm sure he absorbs 5% of the theory from the books he passes her before going back to paging through comics, all the while never interacting with anyone his own age. Best case scenario he got some tutoring in scribe work before everyone in his life gave up on him and stuck him to Twilight as an "assistant." Kid never had a chance.
>>43308441That's cause he's stupid
>>43308404He’s the only baby dragon in Equestria. The law isn’t set up for baby dragons, so Foal Protective Services has no jurisdiction. Legally, he’s just her pet.
>>43308499Dragons have no equine rights.
>>43307318I got them off Audible during one of their "we hope you'll forget to cancel before the promotion period ends" sales. No idea which of the seven seas you'll have to sail to get them, as I've never tried "acquiring" audiobooks like that.https://www.audible.com/pd/A-Stitch-in-Time-Audiobook/B0C8VHYFJ5?https://www.audible.com/series/The-Sandman-Audiobooks/B09BDHZ4F9?https://www.audible.com/pd/Project-Hail-Mary-Audiobook/B08G9PRS1K?>>43307322I don't think Silver gives out his words per hour, so it's impossible to know. Guy makes 1.5k a month on Patreon. If we assume he writes 8 hours a day, 5 days a week, that works out to only just over federal minimum wage, as his Patreon pays monthly, not per update.From a commissioner perspective, Preganon's the better option at 30 bucks per 1k. Silver evidently uses some kind of bizarre vote system instead of directly taking commission ideas.Speaking of Patreon, reminder than Chengar could have lived off the Winningverse if he hadn't wanted to pursue the "next logical step for growing as a writer". He was making a hundred bucks every chapter.>>43308404>enrolling him in school>implying Equestria would waste precious public funds teaching a foreigner
Hi anonsI really like humans turned into pony stories so I'm thinking about writing a story about an animator who worked on the show getting isekai'd into it or whateverIt will be a little based on my own experiences because I'm an animatorBut I also kind of suck at writing so I don't know how good the story will beHas anyone else wrote something like that before? I don't wanna do it if it's unoriginal
>>43308811i don't know of any stories where somebody who worked on the show gets transported into it, but i'm not really sure how different that would be from your standard run of the mill "human from earth gets sent to equestria as a pony" stories, of which there are many.
>>43308816I was thinking something along the lines of the mc adjusting into the world, but more importantly, having to learn to draw as a pony againI feel like it would be really unique to write a fic from the artist povI'm also thinking about the possibility of the mc trying to bring animation to the world, akin to Ascendance of a Bookworm. I'm not really well educated on the tech side of FiM but I know film exists, I'm thinking this could be treated like how early animation companies started up.The mc themselves I want to be a girl who didn't really care much as a human but as a pony more people talk to her. So shut in who becomes more socialObv I need to put more thought into the idea but I'm already thinking of having things like it starting out in the studio and them like sketching things while a pony, I wanna make it really focused on the passion of art, but maybe that also becomes an issue in the story, yknow, them getting blindsided by their passion kinda like twilight I guessDoes that make sense at all tho? Would anyone wanna read that?
>>43308860>I'm not really well educated on the tech side of FiM but I know film exists, I'm thinking this could be treated like how early animation companies started up.Ultimately you can set whatever tech level you want, because there's inconsistencies for ANY tech period you target (you either just have to accept or retcon said inconsistencies).That said though, if you want to know what the most RECENT tech era that's supported in canon is, it's roughly the late-70s/early-80s.Pic rel for various tech items.>Arcade cabinet with CRT screen>Vinyl's electronic music equipment>Pie family connected to electrical grid>40s AM Radio as an antique on a back shelf>Candlestick telephone (ca. '20s, fully retired from service in the '50s) as an antique, along with a 50s-80s era rotary phone from a different episode.>Giant digital screens in Times Square, (the number and resolution of which is more 90s, but there was at least one or two lower-res ones in the early 80s, judging by old ball-drop footage).
>>43308860It's probably gonna fucking suck but you should write it anyway and focus on improving your writing skillsThe most unique thing you could write would be not a super special human PoV with never before written details or niche interests, it'd be a genuinelyl good high quality skillfully written HiE. There's extremely few good ones out there. So go and practice and get better at writing and one day you might actually create high quality HiE wish fulfillment
>>43308710>implying Equestria doesn't have infinite money
>>43308988This is how Twilight thinks, I'm guessing.
>>43308860Read this and ask yourself if you can do better. Remember, the HiE genre is not for the faint of heart: https://www.fimfiction.net/story/589306/1/
Anyone else gradually found yourself unable to take stories shorter than 4k words seriously? There are so many of those and I can only imagine people write them because they're beginners or because they just have a small dumb idea they want to quickly shit out. At best you might be able to get a half-decent comedy out of it (and even then, we all know the average [Comedy] is painfully unfunny), but a couple thousand words is simply not enough to develop and resolve any serious conflict most of the time. Honestly, even 4k is stretching it, but this is the minimal limit where I can at least imagine it working out.
>>43309350No, I can't agree with your conclusion. I do agree that a few thousand words is too short to do much, and I also agree that these stories are never going to have the same impact as something longer. I also agree that a lot of short stories are just small dumb ideas. But a small idea can still be a complete story. You could try to force something more out of it, but if you're just padding, the result is going to be worse. If those scenes already stand on their own, why bother trying to turn them into something bigger?
>>43309350I'm not trying to change the world, sometimes I just want to write a funny scene.
Best fic that would be good if it was good?
>>43309398Mine...
>>43309398Most every fic from 2012-2016
>>43309398Alicorn Adventure series would be good if iisaw didn't try to insert forced romance.
>>43308959I did try writing some of it last night. I do wanna say that I might be better at writing then a beginner simply because I took classes for it at community college and also got a bunch of bad writing out of the way in high school but you're probably right it'll still suck since I haven't practiced writing in awhile>>43309331yeah I don't think I can write something that is worse than this
>>43309418Nothing forced about it, so it is good!I finished The Chrysalis Gambit recently, and I'd put it at #2 behind Twilight Enigma. It was a great deal of fun, and a surprise that iisaw's Luna wasn't totally abysmal in a story that finally features her.
>>43309331Lmao did the story get censored? Ctrl+F can't find it
>>43309440I swear I've seen an edit of this image with LPR and DPR flags
>>43309440didn't realized it was finished, time to read it I guess. The question is do I reread all the others first? Hmmm
>>43309520There are a lot of OCs namedropped that I either only vaguely remembered from the previous stories or didn't remember at all, but it wasn't a big deal. Almost all of them are single "I bet [friend] would have an opinion on this" or "we could go to [place] to talk to [friend] about" sentences, though, so it wasn't a real problem.At the very least, it's set before Skyla Pseudonym and nothing from Celestia Code is relevant except the hive split setup. That is important, though, so if you forgot the roles of Sesseressia and Csharreee, as well as those of the changelings aboard Nebula, that stuff's worth re-reading.
>>43309471The people who would make that kind of edit do tend to be very upset by that picture, so it seems like that could exist.
>>43309594>The people who would make that kind of edit do tend to be very upset by that pictureMy wife's not a fag, so I can understand that
>>43309440You glaze almost anything where Twilight fucks Luna, so your opinion is not considered
>>43308710Oh, I thought they were pony audiobooks...
>>43310140Hors-ebooks if you will
https://www.fimfiction.net/story/591551/not-a-bad-way-to-go>seeing the comments where they just miss the very obvious jokeChrist how is media literacy a skill
>>43310186>the very obvious jokeWhat? The 'lost her cherry' one?
>>43310219No. The commenters not realizing that he's just pretending to be dead.
>>43308811>animator who worked on the showThis would be difficult to pull off well since you didn't actually work on the show. Someone with "behind the scenes" knowledge would have a very unique perspective on things and one that I think would be impossible to make up well.>>43308860> trying to bring animation to the worldVideo games are canon, so animation in the technical sense ("the use of drawn images in a sequence to mimic motion") assuredly exists. Whether they have cartoons is, I believe, unknown however. The use of color films would suggest they probably do, but TV doesn't appear to be a thing yet, so the media landscape of Equestria seems to be in the late 30s or so.>Would anyone wanna read that?I dislike HiE in general, so the concept's not all that interesting to me.
>>43310186I confess, if you asked me if he was alive or dead I would have said he was actually dead, and the signs that he was alive were just absurdist comedy. I think it's twofold for me: one, it doesn't entirely make sense for him to be playing dead unless he has some elaborate keikaku to get her to admit to sitting on his face which doesn't seem to be the case, and two, everything feels more funny if he is dead. Like in the last bit, it looking like he came back to life only for it to be a death spasm is more funny than just him faking. I wouldn't have laughed at all if I thought he was actually alive.
Another milestone reached...
>>43310314Well done, Anon.How's much do you think you have left?
>>43310350Seven scenes left that are part of the final act, including the final battle. So maybe around 130-140k words in total?
>>43310353I hope it turns out better than you expect it, Anon.
>>43309350It's fine if you're a size queen but you don't need to come brag about how gaped your mind is and how only long hefty wordcounts can satisfy you at this point.
>>43309419>I might be better at writing then a beginner>I haven't practiced writing in awhile
>>43310314Remember to upload it chapter by chapter weekly so you don't blow your load too fast.
Incest, lesbianisms, filly-fooling, blood sacrifice, and other fun noble pastimes, in>/FSBC/No point in spending a thousand words on repeating what has already been said, so: story good, typos bad. The other aspects of the fic also hold up, and the payoff for the horror is worth it. Also, as is typical with Unwhole Hole, all the other Chekhov's guns fire, and so does the castle, and seeing it all come together in the last third was great.You thought it'd be Dracula, but it was me, Elizabeth! Is she the most well-recognized Hungarian person? I think she is, as it's neither the first nor the second time I've run into her in media. This version is possibly even better than the drill-haired hag.I do not have too much time before the club time (~3 minutes, to be exact), so I'll just say that I really enjoyed my time with the fic. It commits entirely and unashamedly to the aesthetic of gothic castles and corrupt nobles, and does so genuinely. Yes, it's done with an almost theatrical flair, but I loved the setting and the mystery and didn't really mind that the author was painting by the numbers a little. The characters that we didn't get enough of in week 1 are expanded upon, their plots interweave, and worldbuilding makes sense. It's a good horror story and also a good story!Of course, one should also address the elephant in the room. The goriness of the last part was appropriate for the genre/story, imo, and I'd actually defend it here. It was "unpony", but this was done deliberately and only heightened the sense of wrongness and malignity. The mentions of Muguet's "backstory" got old fast, but it's a minor thing. But of course, then you have the two reveals at the end.I really like them when it comes to the story, and they definitely make the ending incredibly memorable. They also, however, cannibalize a lot of the fic's ponyness. Was the sacrifice worth it? I imagine Rarity faced the same dilemma. This is an M-rated gore'y Horror so sure, you can do this, especially since it's clearly deliberate. The twists achieve their intended effect. I suppose the answer to that question (similar to the one we've seen in Kaidan) is subjective. I wouldn't condemn either of the paths if it's done well. Here, it definitely is.This was a really nice fic. As far as UH goes, I probably still prefer Hand of Doom, but if you were looking for something less "classic adventure" and more horror, this is a competent choice.Next week, Withdrawal, chapters 1-8.https://www.fimfiction.net/story/190641/withdrawal
>>43310721>Chekhov's guns fire, and so does the castle, and seeing it all come together in the last third was great.It's more like a Chekhov's gun cabinet with how many moment come together in the final scenes.>It was "unpony", but this was done deliberately and only heightened the sense of wrongness and malignity.I agree. It feels like once Rarity sees Fleur's true nature, there's a point of no return, both for the tone of story and for Rarity. The final 3 chapters are when the story earns its gore tag.>The mentions of Muguet's "backstory" got old fastHonestly, Muguet's life is so sad that it loops around to being comedy. For a horror fic, it was surprisingly funny, without killing the tone.>they also, however, cannibalize a lot of the fic's ponyness. Was the sacrifice worth it? I imagine Rarity faced the same dilemmaYeah, it a real gut punch ending. I think it loops back to what you said earlier. She can't go back to her Ponyville life after what she endured. She lost her "ponyness" and it is interesting to think about how much she mulled her decision in the ending, and how much of her was lost in the sauce.I couldn't do a longer writer without repeating myself, It was a good horror fic.
I've fallen into a HiE-like trap with https://www.fimfiction.net/story/485500/harry-potter-and-the-prancing-of-ponies I'm 11 chapters in and I'm thinking that it is good, but all that it's actually done so far is set things up.
>>43310721>Satin worshipfucking kek, Rarity found her people!>sweetie saying she knows several godsKinoAaaaand I only read till Rarity falls in the pond because someone busted up their nose right in front of me at work and suddenly I had no more reading time. That said I will definitely finish this either today or tomorrow
>>43310721So I was pretty much spot-on with my guess of this being about dark blood rituals to restore Fleur's youth (unmarked spoilers from now on, so if you're reading this review before reading the fic, this is your only warning)The fic mostly maintains the same level of quality in the second half, and I even think the typos grew a little less frequent this time. To compensate, there's stuff like pic related where POV randomly switches to Fleur in the last paragraph, but I didn't find any other instances of that.It's interesting the story breaks the isolation of the castle twice, with the letter to Spike and the village, but it doesn't diminish the mood. Spike is still far away (we don't even see the text of his letter), and the village is eerie in its own right. Even though nothing much was happening there, I enjoyed how realistically Sweetie's confidence turning to fear was handled. On that note, when Fleur began to show her true colors with both Sweetie and Rarity, the smooth transition from casual to uneasy in both scenes was well-done.The red herring of Snipper being the villain was pretty hard to buy, considering her words to Sweetie that the latter seems to forget about for a couple of chapters. I also think it's a bit contrived that she apparently had a good idea of what was happening but didn't do anything for so long. Still, I enjoyed her master plan to kill Fleur and the lore of the Eastern ponies, even if it felt like part of a bigger story we never got to see (unless it's fleshed out in another fic by this guy? I'd read that).The story kinda turns into an erotic thriller in the last few chapters (which is based). Fleur seducing Rarity while monologuing is one way to make an exposition dump engaging, I suppose. These chapters get properly dramatic and gory, though I expected the chase to be more intense and horror movie-like, with disfigured Fleur chasing them throughout the burning castle. But the author saved the horror movie stuff for the last one.(cont.)
>>43310946Yeah, about that last chapter. At first I thought it was just Fleur getting her just desserts. To which I initially thought the White Queen thing was silly and would have preferred Fleur simply bleeding out buried underneath the rubble as the souls of her victims drag her to Satin (apparently a recurring entity in the author's work?). But turns out, the last chapter is actually two twists stacked on top of one another, and it's debatable which one is darker. The Celestia one works fine, I think: it certainly answers the question of "how is Celestia letting any of this happen" and "what is the purpose of the nobles", and recontextualizes the story to be way more grim than it seemed. Again, I'm not sure if this relates to this author's broader setting, but I'd read more of this. Especially the rivalry between Celestia and whatever unholy abomination Rarity ends up becoming after bathing in another white unicorn's blood.Right, the Rarity twist... I appreciate the double subversion of her betrayal-turned-heroic-sacrifice-turned-betrayal-again, but I really would have preferred if this was more of a gradual descent. Specifically, if we saw inside Rarity's psyche as she slowly gets corrupted by Fleur's and the castle's influence. It's not as if this comes out of nowhere: her slicing Silver was clearly foreshadowing this. But I'm not a fan of how the final scene is tonally executed like a sudden reveal at the end of a horror movie. This clashes with the more languid and introspective tone of the rest of the story IMO. Maybe I just like convincing descriptions of characters slowly losing their mind too much to not feel blueballed that this story somewhat skipped over the main "losing your mind" part. Also: THEN WHO WAS WHITE UNICORN? He seems like the ghost of Fleur's father, but why he was haunting the castle and helping Sweetie seemingly remains unanswered, aside from the implication of it being part of Celestia's will. (cont.)
>>43310949Overall, this was a solid horror story with steady pacing, a compelling atmosphere, and a proper dramatic pay-off to most everything. Even the OCs created to be ultimately expendable victims ended up really memorable. Almost makes me want to gripe about zoomers gushing over their shitty MLP creepypastas while well-written horror like this gets so few views, but all that is to be expected.P.S. I put together the garbled text at the end of every chapter, because I assumed that was a deliberate spooky ARG element:>0%(]>��{H^>�?}i7�}ight. I woke_>�i|ir�_>[ }i, �]>6{tab-count:1'\>��afI'd like to tell you I managed to decipher what the fuck this means, but no such luck. These are scattered about in an arbitrary way, too: some of the chapters don't have the garbled characters at the end. Am I missing something, or did this guy really did just forget to remove corrupted text from the end of half of his chapters?
>>43310954It looks like he pasted it from a program and forgot to clean it up, yeah.
>>43310721Identity of the white unicorn stallion Pt 1: liliesSightings of the mysterious unicorn stallion are frequently accompanied by a particular scent.Chapter 5:>”She also smelled a strange scent. Not the odd, almost musky scent that Fleur had, but something far more sickly, like lilies that had begun to decay.Chapter 11:>”The unicorn’s face did not change, nor did his eyes move. The scent of flowers became almost overwhelming, but it was not the scent of the carnations. Instead, it was that of lilies.”Chapter 14:>”He stepped backward into the flames and seemed to vanish . . . His smell lingered, though. Even though the smoke and fire, Sweetie Belle could smell the scent of lilies.”This is important because Fleur’s cutie mark—and the De’Lis family insignia—is a “fleur-de-lis” which, translated from French, literally means: “flower of the lily”.Let me break down the grammar:>fleur means “flower”>de means “of” or “from”>lis means “lily”This means that the literal translation of “de lis” is “of lilies”Knowing this, I think we can safely say that the white unicorn stallion was—or is—a member of the De’Lis family.However, “a member of the De’Lis family” could refer to many ponies. Could we identify him more specifically?Maybe.Before we get to that though, I want to go on a brief tangent.(1/2)
>>43311085Tangent: TranslationsLet’s go over the translations of Fleur’s name and those of her family.Fleur de lis translates as: “lily flower”Her mother, Couleur de lis, translates as “lily color”Fleur’s grandmother, Aleur de lis, also translates as “lily flower”. However, “Aleur” is very similar to “Valeur” which is French for value. Valeur de lis translates as “lily value”.And finally Joan De’Lis, doesn’t translate as anything, but is instead most likely a reference to historical figure Joan of Arc.>”Joan of Ark carried a white banner bearing several golden fleur-de-lis into battle, and was later awarded a coat of arms bearing two of them by the king.”Let’s get back to the identity of the white stallion.Well, thats what I'd like to say anyway, unfortunately, it's not finished yet. I'll see if I can get it ready sometime tomorrow.I'll have to leave you with this instead.In chapter 3 we see Muguet’s cutie mark:>”Muguet’s cutie mark, . . . from what she could tell was a metal pail for some reason.”There’s exactly one other time the word pail is used:>”Muguet was still dripping slowly, though, and her blood was falling into a metal pail”Notice that it’s not just a “pail”, but a “metal pail” the exact wording of her cutie mark.Now, compare that last segment with this one:>”she levitated a beautifully painted enamel bucket- -only the best would do for her dear sister, of course- -and placed it below Sweetie Belle’s head.”This is the only time the word “bucket” gets used in this story. The author seems to have not only deliberately avoided using the word “pail”, but also made sure to describe it as being enamel—not metal.I have no idea what this means or why the author did this, but it seemed too deliberate and intentional to leave out.
>>43310949>>43310954>Right, the Rarity twist...I think UH wanted the final chapter to feel extra shocking, even if the Celestia twist works better than the Rarity one. I think the way it is presented works to preserve the flow of the ending. Still, I also would have like to see a sequel dedicated to Rarity's mental downfall after returning home.>Even the OCs created to be ultimately expendable victims ended up really memorableI did appreciate how sudden their deaths were in the final chapter. This story will probably be better on the re-read with the full view of them in mind, Snipper especially. >Also: THEN WHO WAS WHITE UNICORN?Title-wise, it's Rarity, now that she's taken up the blood ritual mantle. Story-wise, I also assumed it was the ghost of Fleur's dad. I think in terms of his motivation the audience is supposed to theory-craft a little, but it might be more obvious on the re-read. >did this guy really did just forget to remove corrupted text from the end of half of his chapters?I ran what you posted through base64 and I didn't get anything, so yes.
>>43310721usually when a fic introduces foal prostitution you expect that to be as dark as it gets. it would seem the old adage does not always hold true.fleur in the penultimate chapter was one of the most thorough depictions of absolute unrepentant evil i have ever witnessed, at least in a pony fic. and she manages to both be very believable and come accross as horrifying rather than comical. multiple times i found myself just thinking "i hate her so much". which sounds like a job well done on the author's part.something i found interesting is that chapter 14 ends on a satisfying, conclusive, bittersweet note. if the fic had only the first 14 chapters, nobody would find the ending odd at all.and then chapter 15 shows up, replaces the bittersweet ending with a horrifying one and does nothing else. yes, there's the the alicorn statue, and the white unicorn's comment about sweetie surely dying if she tries to carry rarity out forshadowing the twists, but part of me still wonders of the decision to have the final chapter dedicated entirely to giving the fic a "bad ending" (not to be confused with a "bad" ending) was made so that people who don't like bad endings without a single drop of hope in them can safely ignore the final chapter and pretend that the fic ends with the two sisters making it to safety after destroying an evil blood magic cult.speaking of chapter 14, i find the implication that sweetie belle ended up considering feathery snipper a friend really cute.regarding the idea of alicorns not being naturally immortal, and celestia instead using other methods to prolong her life: that's actually a headcanon i support. the "other methods" in this case are not exactly what i'd pick if trying to be canon compliant, but obviously, that is not this fic's concern. and it's still cool to see a niche headcanon i like in a fic.
>>43310850>It was a good horror ficAnd yet it was sitting at a 25-3 after about a decade. I wonder how many actually good-to-great stories we'll never be aware of because of fimfic's upboats being so bad at showing the story's quality. It'd be silly to feel sad about stories that may or may not exist, but still, it sucks to think about at least a little.>>43310934>That said I will definitely finish thisGood luck. You might dislike it more than the other anons, but I hope you won't hate the fic for it.>>43310946>I even think the typos grew a little less frequent this timeI don't think so. The big dramatic encounter with Fleur still had several really bad typos that took me out of it a tiny amount. You may have simply inoculated yourself against UH's writing style more.>the smooth transition from casual to uneasy in both scenes was well-done.Oh yeah, that was really good!>had a good idea of what was happeningEh, I buy it. She's said to be very traumatized by the revolution and so she latched on to Fleur like the rest of them. She didn't want to believe what she was starting to think.>unless it's fleshed out in another fic by this guy?I've only read three, but his stories tend to have a little overlap and they're all set in the same universe, although some don't seem to be canon. So 'immortal' Rarara is probably not coming back, but the Order or the depictions of the East will come back in a few other stories. >>43310949>apparently a recurring entityAlluded to in at least a few others, but I'm not sure if his existence is confirmed in any of the ones I've read.>I'm not sure if this relates to this author's broader settingThe ones that I did read were lighter and far more "pony" in the resolution and the tone, but stuff like this portrayal of Celestia is consistent. It actually explains one question I've had about her in Hand of Doom, and provides context for something in Equestria 400k. She's not evil, not nearly as evil as she seems to be here. Being a deity who operates on a different scale is just complicated.>Especially the rivalry between Celestia and whatever unholy abomination RarityI think vampire!Rarara will just get squashed a few days later, unless the ritual also makes her obscenely powerful.>descentYeah, I can see why you'd like that, but I also think the suddenness works here. Rarity is generally somewhat dubious in this fic throughout the story, not just the ending.>WHITE UNICORN?Unless it's explained in some other fic, I'd guess it's her father. Also:Holy shit I only now realized the "If you try to save Rarity, you will die!" line that he spoke. I feel so stupid! When I first read them escaping together, I was so glad he was wrong after all.>>43310954>well-written horror like this gets so few viewsYeah, I was disappointed about it just now, too.>spooky ARG elementIt shows up in some—not all—other stories of his even after people pointed it out, so it surely is deliberate. It can't be an error.
>>43311292>usually when a fic introduces foal prostitution you expect that to be as dark as it getsI mean Scootaloo's life can always get worse.
>>43311085>Fleur’s cutie markTo add to something you said last week: knowing what we know now, Fleur's cutie mark being literally "the de Lis family" makes a lot more sense now that we know she's the last one, and also the one who'd either save or doom their line.>>43311088>Muguet’s cutie markThe pail is almost certainly foreshadowing, but I don't know if you're not trying to get too much mileage out of it by extending it to the bucket as well. Maybe not, though. It is peculiar.>>43311094>Rarity's mental downfall after returning homeI think this already exists and it's the bad part of the Hard Reset trilogy, specifically the Twilight trauma arc.>This story will probably be better on the re-readThis is actually true for all Unwhole Whole fics that I read, but he has like 30, so it's hard to justify a reread over picking a new one. Being such a prolific author can be a curse. And also, I think having the realization about how the earlier pieces fit into the whole is also a part of the fun, and this is something you only get on the first read.>so yes.I couldn't see anything, but I doubt it. He'd fix it after one fic otherwise, and it's too... intentional? It's not like these chapters are missing words or sentences.>>43311292>"i hate her so much"Yeah, and UH has a really good range when it comes to writing antagonists. Protagonists, too; he's just good at characters. If only he was as good at proofreading...>bad endings without a single drop of hope in themWhat do you mean? Is eternal youth not hopeful? Surely trading like 200 years max (UH's unicorns live long) is worth committing one of the most horrifyingly disgusting crimes imaginable! Rarity thinks so, and she wouldn't be wrong about that. But actually, knowing that she will almost certainly fail because of Celestia does make the ending even more hopeless, imo. Yes, she's a monster, but the "and no one made it out of there alive, no matter the price they were willing to pay" is an additional layer of depressing.>celestia instead using other methods to prolong her lifeActually, this is a good argument for this being separate from "UH canon". Obviously Rarity isn't a murderer in his other fics, but I think the worldbuilding introduced here doesn't carry over to the other fics (where Celestia is immortal). It still does use and reference the world from the other stories, so perhaps it goes one way as a spin-off of a sort.
So do you think commander Hurricane was basically a praetorian guard commander for pre-unification pegasus Rome?
Just need some pony audio books
>>43311495Yes.
>>43311566Who's the Caesar that he's guarding, then?
>>43311507https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rYL8LTIBBFU
>>43311659I was thinking less Caesar and some inept puppet that he's not very happy with
>>43310721Nominating this for the club.Maybe after a while of reading non-spoopy things.https://www.fimfiction.net/story/583399/the-nameless-days
>>43311301>So 'immortal' Rarara is probably not coming backI checked his other fics and that "500k in the future" fic is the only non-comedy one to have Rarity in the tags. None of the comments mention an insane vampiristic semi-immortal Rarity, so I assume he doesn't really have a strict continuity they're all in and they're all just instead hazily connected together because it's too much of a pain developing brand new lore for each story.I checked his blogs to see if there was a discussion about it, but he does that retarded "blog post but it's written like a story" thing and I cannot bear to read any of them to see. Write a story if you're going to write a story and write a blog if you're writing a blog.>>43311495>praetorian guard commanderShe's described as the "Ruler of the Pegasi" so head of the Praetorian Guard doesn't make sense, as they guarded the senior Roman officials.Given her title, she would have likely more been a Consul, as she was the head of state, commanded the military, and engaged in diplomacy. All things Consuls did.A whole "power behind the throne" thing could work, but it'd still be weird for the unicorns to send their heir and a senior mage and the earth ponies to send their leader and her senior aide, while the pegasi send the head of the bodyguards. It would make it really obvious who was really in charge, which defeats the whole idea behind a "power behind the throne". If anything, given how HWE is structured, Hurricinae should have been the beleaguered Guard Commander who plays Pansy's role and the emperor the annoying blowhard.
>>43310521Wellll I don't think my writing knowledge just disappeared, I've just been focusing on art. I would like to think I've retained the things I've learned. The last time I wrote something serious was like April when I participated in a friend's writing competition
>>43312155I was pointing at the glaring typos in those passages.
>someone adds a fic of mine to their "read it later">look at their fics>all crossovers and EqG>can I take my fic off your RIL?
>>43312538>someone adds a fic of mine to their "read it later">their "read it later" is 50 pages long>they're never actually going to read my fic
>>43312710>their "read it later" is 50 pages longYou don't have to call me out like that, anon
>someone actually reads my fic>puts it in a folder named "Meh".
>>43312738Have you considered making something good instead? This story got several hundred upvotes, have you tried mimicking it?
>>43312748This fic would unironically make for a kino audiobook, provided the right VA and direction/editing
>>43312748>Have you considered making something good instead?Why do that when I can write things that make me happy, instead?
>>43312774And are you happy?
>>43312812Aye.
Someone once added a fairly standard sappy romance I wrote to a bookshelf that had nothing but clopfics. Some with long fetish lists.Quite strange.
>>43312861Someone added an entirely unrelated fic I wrote to a pro-life bookshelf.
>>43312738>authors actually pay attention to your bookshelves Fug. I have a “I kinda skimmed this shit” bookshelf because I’m a weak zoomer who can’t sit down and read descriptions or atmospheres without wanting to skip to the plot a lot of the time. I hope I didn’t demoralize anyone :/
>>43312898You can edit the bookshelf so the authors don't get notified when you add it somewhere.
Help, I'm trapped in a 600k HiE crossover.
>>43312923What's the franchise?
>>43312927HPMOR...
>>43312938A hell of your own making.
>>43312938You need help alright.
>>43311507If you search "with reading" or "dramatic reading" on fimfiction, you will a few stories that have a link to someone's reading. I guess you could also download them with satcher and play them with smart audio player if you'd like. Granted, I don't know if any of them are good narration-wise.
>>43313283They vary. Someone covered one of mine and I was surprised that it was a full production, while another guy did another one that left a fair amount to be desired.
>>43313286>it was a full productionLink it.
>>43313296https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XhsgocS3RcU
>>43313283>If you search "with reading" or "dramatic reading" on fimfiction, you will a few stories that have a link to someone's reading.There's also this group which categorizes them well:https://www.fimfiction.net/group/203863/stories-with-audio-readings
Who baking
>>43313440Not me.
>>43313440I'll do it. Give me a bit to write the ITT.
>>43313597>>43313597>>43313597>>43313597
>>43299392This is NOT y2k you fucking zoomer
>>43313859the font is.