Preorders open until August 31st!!>https://order.mppp.horse/>https://order.mppp.horse/>https://order.mppp.horse/$20.50 for the first plushie, +$12 for each additional filly>What is this?/mppp/ is the mass produced pony plushie project. ITT we discuss mass-producing inexpensive pony plushies so every autist can have a cheap cuddlable plushie of their very own.>The current situationSmall Horse Imports LLC has been registered in the USA to handle the bureaucratic, banking, and tax portions of this project. This is the company your invoices will come from.Preorders have opened! The current wave has surpassed 883 preorders, more than any other /mppp/ run EVER.Originally priced at $19.50 +$11 for each additional. But in order to comply with CPSC guidelines, plushies need to undergo certification, which will bump the price up by roughly $1 per unit.>How much?Estimated price of one plushie: $20.50Estimated cost of each additional plushie per order: $12All prices are estimates and may vary by 10% (or more if you live in a really hard to deliver to country) up or down depending on shipping to your country, fees, and if we produce over 1000 plushies or not.If you want to buy 20 or more you'll receive an invoice for the cost of manufacture of the plushies, then a second invoice for shipping. Cost of manufacture is $8.46 per unit if we order 500-1000 unit, it becomes $8.26 per unit if we order 1000+>What still needs to be done?Place the bulk order with Symbiote.Send out invoices.Ship the fillies.Want to help? Spread the word to other anons, or order some little green faggots for yourself and others.Questions? Put 'em in the thread.LS Luna When?Previous thread: >>43344263
>>43404778>Total fillies preordered. This is split over around 375 orderscould i request again the country statistics of the 375 orders. please also include single order digits
>>43405600I fixed the logo a bit: added back the creases on the hat and added some skew to the jigsaw piece.Also the SVG should now have only paths, not strokes (some printers don't handle strokes correctly).https://files.catbox.moe/o8rvh6.svg
>>43405600What do I do if I'm moving some time in the next couple months? Can I order and change my address when I do?
>>43405633Oh, I forgot to set anti-alias.
>>43405679no the new resident has to live with the curse you placed upon them sorry
>>43405679set up mail forwarding when you move
Aryanne v2 when
>>43406291even without the cutie mark, I'd imagine it's more likely to do something like Leslie Fair for variety's sake, but that's an unknown time in the future. We could all get raped by Hasbro by then!
before bed
28 days to go
>>43392067I had regretted not ordering her back then so thanks again anon, she has arrived in her new home today
>>43407933Cool. Glad she arrived safe and sound.
>>43392067>photo deletedAll gone?
>>43408043You've gotta follow the reply chain, anon
I know it's a longshot by now since the deadline came around, but any chance there's an option for pre-paid visa card? Had one sitting around for a long time but never used it.>>43383531>As a reminder we offer numerous alternative payment methods for Anons who cannot use PayPal including BTC, XMR, RMB, cash, check, wire, or ACH bank transfer in the USA.This post doesn't mention it.
>>43408199Unless I'm stupid and that counts as cash or something. Never did something like this before.
>>43408199You can use the card as payment by paying your PayPal invoice as a guest and using the prepaid card like a credit card
>>43408319Uhhh, I'm guessing I need to make a paypal account then? Fuck. Annoying needing to handle yet ANOTHER account.
>>43408319>as a guest>>43408522>I'm guessing I need to make a paypal account then?Anon...
>>43408533I read that but when I went on the site, they didn't show squat about some guest thing. This is my first time filling the form. So I just sign up with whatever email under part 4 in Paypal box and it gets sent to email, then I click some guest link from there?Yes, I feel fucking abysmally retarded right now because I haven't used Paypal for anything before. I'd buy the please be patient hat accessory for my faggot too if that were an option.
>>43408562Yes, you'll be sent an invoice to whatever email you filled in, and you would check out as a guest at that time
>>43408562I just don't want to fuck up filling the form and miss out on a faggot AGAIN. Also not spending all of the card in case Floorb and Sgt. get done.>>43408571Alright. I'll just chill out then.
>>43405600Thanks again Anon for making the OP. Thread dies at inconvenient times for me. I would add that cost of manufacture currently stands at $7.26 a unit. The testing adds ~$1 (Tests cost about $1400). The neat thing is that the test cost is fixed, so the more orders there are the more that cost can be spread over all the orders. Also if we hit 1500 units ordered the manufacture cost drops to $7.06 and the cost of testing will be less than $1 per plushie. >>43405629Sure Anon. Thank the AI for making a pretty (and correct, I checked) bar chart by country. If the Kazakh Anon is itt I wanna ask how the mlp fandom is over there.>>43406291Personally I would love to do a run of the politipones because I think Leslie, Veronika, and Molly are far too underrepresented. Though it wouldn't be for a long time if ever since we've got other pones higher up in the queue to do. >>43408593You're all good Anon. Once the invoices go out you'll have a month to pay. If you experience issues then please reach out to info@mppp.horse and we'll help (you).
>>43408956What about paying for VAT when the plush arrives? Is that included with the invoice or will I have to pay when she arrives? I'm at work a lot when postal delivers, would I have to leave money for a housemate to give or will it be sent to the post office and I pay there?
>>43409395That entirely depends on what country you live in. If you live in the USA then you do not need to worry about a VAT. But many countries do need to worry about paying a VAT. You will want to look up how your postal service handles it. But we do not collect VAT in the invoice.
>>43409486Is the parcel going to be sent with the full value?
>>43408956glad to see there are still ponyfags in SEA
>>43409395For the UK at least, you have to send fees like that to whatever mail carrier you use when it arrives. They'll send you an email or letter telling you how to pay.Funny enough, I've never had to pay any extra fees like VAT or customs on any of the other plushie runs, though since this is with a new maker and distributor, we'll have to wait and see.
>>43408956>Kazakhstani horsefuckerHIS ANCESTORS LIVE ON THROUGH HIM
>>43410122The UK, afaik, is pretty lenient for low value parcels, unlike the EU right now. But Royal Mail (which is more or less the default) rapes you with something like a £12 processing fee if you need to pay even a penny of customs charges.Since symbiote is apparently a reputable company they might mark the full value of like $20 or whatever, which I think will be above the minimal taxable value so you might end up charged £3 VAT + £12 processing, unless the local delivery uses a non-royal mail carrier.
>>43410122I'm in US and haven't bought anything outside the country in a looong time. I did buy a pony from the Netherlands once and didn't have to pay anything, I just had to sign the package and it arrived at night. Just don't want my fillies to be sent back because I wasn't home when she arrived.
>>43405600>$20.50So about 25€ (17,8€ + VAT + 3€ tariff) without brokerage service fee (which is usually in the range of an additional 5-10€). I expect it to be like 30€ total at the end for a single filly.
>>43412013I copied the last thread's OP for this one, but I think there's some sort of new fuckery with product testing or whatever- Oh, well, that's a US thing, you're probably fine Euroing it up
>>43412013The fuck is brokerage, this isn't taobao>>43412018Product testing is paid by the factory and so affects everyone, but it's like $0.60 extra per plushie overall
>>43412038>The fuck is brokerage, this isn't taobaoThe fee you pay so you can pay other fees. Or will Symbiote handle paying all the fees, figure out how and what amount to pay in each country, register the package to the system which is used for tracking imports, etc? As far as I know they won't.Just like last time, first I pay using whatever payment system for the filler then once it arrived in the country the post office will handle importing it and I have to pay to the post office to release the package from the warehouse.
>>43412095Oh yeah, the processing fee. I thought that was what the €3 charge was supposed to be, I guess not then. Either way they're not brokering anything
filler
>>43412713
idk why i did this but its a comparison of orders between /mppp/ and /mlpmg/
>>43413595Mongolia resists the surrounding army of fillies attempting to flood the country
>>43413595Surprised there's no czech orders. I thought the fandom was fairly alive over there.
>>43413659soon>>43413695its fixed, excel doesn't recognize czech republic so i've change it into czechia
>>43413595>CIS countries: We're not poor!>Also CIS countries: A silver coin? Too expensive!
>>43413595I wonder what the comparison between Anonfilly v1 vs v3 looks like.
>>43413732Can you use a logarythmic scale for coloring?
>>43414074i don't have the data for it. if some anon can provide it, i'm willing to work on it>>43414199unfortunately, the map chart i've used in excel doesn't have it
>>43414220>unfortunately, the map chart i've used in excel doesn't have itUse the LOG() function on the column and use the results for the graph
>>43414258here you go anon. idk if i did it right though
>>43414258>>43414301minor correction
Another thread has some interesting idea:>>43412295>You should contact https://mlp-ring.neocities.org/ Anon, to add the website to the ring.>The website must be related (at least tangentially) to /mlp/ and it's community.We can add mppp.horse to this ring, it is a /mlp/ project for sure.
>>43414319How much has silver gone up since then?
>>43415701Silver spot price is about $61.78/troy oz right now. 2022 average was $22.92/troy oz
>>43409914Yes, it will have the value of the plushie. So a single package will have a value rounded to the nearest dollar. In this case it would be $8 for a single plushie. The cost of shipping, warehousing, and taxes is not included in the declared value of the parcel. >>43412013>>43412018Yes, there have been additional Child Safety requirments for selling in the USA and EU markets. It will cost about $1400 to do product testing ($700 for USA and $700 for EU tests). This is being spread over the cost of all fillies, so it is expected to raise the price by about $1. There is no brokerage fee. We have partnered with a logistics partner in Shenzhen that specializes in drop shipping globally. The cost you pay will include their services. The cost they add per order is around $0.50 for storing, packing, and labeling the parcel for shipping. They also handle setting up the tracking and filing any paperwork for customs from the senders side. Symbiote will simply be shipping the pallets of finished plushies to the logistics warehouse. And because China is China it costs like $100 or less to get these pallets from the manufacturer to the distributor. So when we say a single plushie will probably cost you around 18€ total, we mean it. Any additional VAT or handling fees your country imposes on you hopefully shouldn't exceed a few more euros.
>>43408593I need a floorb so bad holy fuck
>>43415868>shouldn't exceed a few more euros.If I have to pay VAT that means I have to pay VAT. That's 18% to 27% depending on the country. If VAT is not paid upfront (and the parcel marked in the custom's systems that it has VAT already paid) even before it arrives into the country that means brokerage fee at the post office.3 euro flat tariff is a recent development (since july 1st this year), applies to all lines in an invoice, regardless what it is.So sure, I will pay 18€ to you, but when it enters the country and lands in the import pile I will have to pay an additional ~8€ for VAT/tariff plus 5-15€ (depending if they can import it by themselves or do I have to provide papers, invoices, etc) for the post office's services that they import the package, handle tariff, handle VAT. Last time I paid something like 20€ additionally for a single faggot.It is what it is, nothing can be done about it. I'm used to stuff costing at least 2x (if not 10x) compared what they cost outside of the EU. And boomers wonder why we can't buy a house. Just recently there was an infographics detailing how much an iphone costs in the EU compared to the US. In my country it's 155%. It is literarily cheaper to fly to the UK, buy it there and fly back.
>>43416110https://www.euronews.com/business/2026/07/28/iphone-17-pro-prices-how-europe-compares-with-the-us-and-the-worldwtf 155% of US pricing and 2-10x, where the heck do you live.>>43415868>hopefully shouldn't exceed a few more euros.Do you have to mark them full value, as the VAT charged is based on stated value. Olyfactory just marked them as $1 back in the days, so you get the funny of getting a ~10€ invoice where 9,9 of it is the import processing fee and 0,1 is the actual VAT. With the 3€ totally-not-chyna-tariff fee nowadays. It'll be more like 30€ the anon said for a single filly.
>>43416140Euros are pretty based for making it easier for their people to choose the superior mobile platform.
>>43416110>that means brokerage fee at the post office.The post office is not brokering anything from you, it's a processing or administrative fee.
>>43416140>155%https://www.visualcapitalist.com/ranked-where-iphones-cost-the-most-in-2026/You can get an iPhone 17 Pro 256GB for $1100 in the US.Just checked that the gray market imports sell for $1400 equivalent. The official distributors (aka you get warranty) sell it between $1570 and $1730. The infographics I looked at is inline with the upper price range.Recently I wanted to buy a V100 GPU. There is none on ebay in the EU, but the US is full of them. To ship/import it costs just as much as the card. Or the Asrock BC250 (again US ebay is full of it) was advertised as the "$100" gaming pc. I maybe can get one for $350.Just recently I bought four used 6TB hdds (with 5 years of power on hours). I paid $500 for it. Meanwhile in the US you can get lucky and buy brand new 8TB drives for $100 on discount (not always!). The reddit is full of these posts that "ah there was a discount at X and I bought a ton of huge drives for barely any money".Also look at console pricing from 10 years ago. Most of the time the price in usd was numerically equal to the price in euro, despite one euro being worth 1.4 usd.>just marked them as $1 back in the daysIn some countries (including mine) if a package was marked as gift/1$ they ask for invoice most of the time. I did not get lucky with Olyfactory either.As I said, it is what it is, I'm just preparing myself to pay another 20€ once the package arrives.
>>43413595neat
>>43416110The price that will be reported on the customs forms will be the price of the plushie. So about $8. Even a %30 VAT is still only $2.4 or like 2 Euro. But it sounds like you'll have to pay a flat 3 euro VAT? Or is that some tariff the EU imposed on China? The post office charge for handling your package is not something we can calculate, it differs per country. For some like the US it is free, for others like Argentina you simply go to a post office and pay the VAT. It varies by country. It sounds like your country is hell, I'm sorry Anon. Rest easy knowing people in countries more advanced than you like Argentina and the USA don't have to pay any silly additional post office handling fees just to allow you to pay a VAT.>>43416140Yes, it will be marked at the full value. That being ~$8 x the number of plushies you purchase. Man it seems like some of you Euros will end up paying more in fees and BS than for the actual plushie + shipping.
Anon talking with the plush sex doll maker any updates?>>43415701If silver were to track the objective gold: silver ratio, and if gold tracked historical values, gold should be around $40,000/oz and silver $5,000oz. There's more upside to silver.
>>43417238>VATVAT is paid based on the sum of the invoice. Including shipping, as retarded as it sounds.> 3 euroIt's not vat, its a punitive duty/tariff one to deter individuals from ordering from China. Applies to each product category in the package separately in theory, in reality each line on the invoice. So if you order two different plushie, two different line on the invoice that's 2x 3€. If you order multiple of the same plushie (one line on the invoice) then it is only 3€. Guess who benefits from bulk ordering...>sounds like your country is hellSadly it's the whole of EU, independent on the country. It's mostly almost the same process in every country in the EU.>end up paying more in fees and BS than for the actual plushie + shippingI don't remember the details, but it was close. The politicians wants to completely kill individuals buying things from outside of the EU. Because that would skip the companies which play the middle man between the consumer and China.As a collateral damage now it is very hard to receive packages from family outside of the EU, because that will not have an invoice which they can use to calculate the vat/tariff/duty.
>>43417468>VAT is paid based on the sum of the invoice. Including shipping, as retarded as it sounds.I think if the label states a total price of $8 then that's what they will use, just like how chinese packages usually get through when marked as $1 total.That anon did say $1 packages get asked for the actual payment invoice but hopefully an $8 package will not trigger the same thing.
>>43417468>its a punitive duty/tariff one to deter individuals from ordering from ChinaThat's one thing I have certainly noticed while trying to run this project. The "developed" countries (EU, USA) are making it increasingly difficult to get certain items in. Whether it's the tariffs or stricter enforcement of things like the CPSC. Some makes sense, we don't want radioactive fillies (again). But stuff like the tariffs are just onerous and I doubt they will have the intended effect of promoting local industry... because that local industry left 50 years ago. Go ahead, try to find me someone in the EU or US that will custom dye reams of minkie fabric for pennies per sqft. Not to get too /pol/ but our grandparents made the decision to make China the world's factory, and now our leaders are second guessing a decision that, at best will take decades to make work or at worst will never work and just harms their populace. Fun times, but we'll keep trying to produce these plushies despite the world deciding free trade shouldn't be a thing.
>>43418213I don't know, OP.Slave labor is bad. But the West is so bankrupt on motivation that the amount of money it takes for them to do anything just doesn't make sense.Maybe if the westerner's life wasn't so vapid and meaningless, they would be motivated by more than money.Though, I don't think China or the rest of SEA is too far behind with the same problems.Honestly, it just feels like the end times right now.
is the mass produced lifesize thing happening?
https://u.smutty.horse/lyvvwpevnex.mp4will we ever have these kinds of advertisements again?
>>43419233I think AI really made these live actor advertisements kind of outdated.But yeah, pony ads were neat.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJURMdGv1hYhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4FDm5nv6Lj4https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ycMdO4SGrxk
>>43419246Remember that today is the Anniversary of Marenheit 451. Donate to a horse charity in the name of Verity!
>>43419246>AIUnless you're doing something absolutely batshit with it, like having the filly save JFK from being added to a frag montage, I way prefer just giving someone lunch money to read a funny little advert script in front of a green screen
>>43419246The Fiverr/Cameo stuff is funnier specifically because it's a real person doing it
>>43419278>The Fiverr/Cameo stuff is funnier specifically because it's a real person doing itTrue.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YG7bkr_ygSQ
Some Anon had the idea of work vests for the fillies, so I made this.
>>43419436
>>43419438Here's a rough pattern I used
>>43419436I'll take 3
>>43418213It's not about promoting local industry, it's about promoting local logistics. You're supposed to walk into your local Carrefour or whatever and buy the cheap-ass child plushies from there, not order plushies online from China.They don't actually care about pony plushies obviously but more realistically what they care about is Aliexpress, and nowadays especially Temu, basically being wholly Chinese companies getting a bunch of western customers and revenue thanks to the globalisation of the internet, while western companies like Amazon lose out on this revenue. This is what the tariffs are meant to punish.Obviously in local cases it ends up retarded because yeah sure we'd buy anonfilly plushies from amazon if they gave us the option, but naturally all sweeping laws like these end up being harmful in ways that politicians and enforcers don't care about, at scales that are too small to make any political dent howsoever insignificant. Same as how when trump added tariffs to the US, tea anons on /ck/ had to pay out the ass, and not because they're chinaboos but because how the fuck would you get authentic tea without importing from china (or india). Such is politics.
>>43419436Looks really cool!>>43419446What's the scale here?
>>43419233Endearingly cringe. Also check'd.
>>43414319I'm always surprised how bronies outside of usa are such a rarity.In general how localized the english speaking sites are, does not matter which one. 4chan's visitors are 90% from the us too.
I wonder to what degree plushmancers will false flag this thread to stall the lifesize. We never got any proof that guy has a manufacturing license from hasbro. It could be a way to delay the project a couple months.
Hey I don't mean to derail or discourage a project whatsoever. I have never mass produced anything successfully but did have past experiences from my attempts that I wanted to share about what to look out for in terms of scam vendors and helpful notes on how to safeguard yourself while doing this. I tried two vendors, neither delivered and one didn't refund me. I regret not making a real contract, among other things. Will get into this later as I'm kind of wasted.
>mention plushmancers>immediate FUDIts scared
>>43420236>4chan's visitors are 90% from the us too.To be quite desu, EU anons have their own imageboards where they can discuss serious topics without the US glowniggers driving the discussion quality down. In these circumstances only small thematic boards on 4chan can be attractive to them.
>>43420614You're being paranoid but I sort of understand why you would be. I'll skip the lengthy story and just leave the common sense tips to interested anons so someone else doesn't get screwed. I tried two merchants, one a six man team, one a big factory. Made the mistake of paying by bank transfer. Obviously don't use crypto or paypal friends either. Describe in extensive detail everything you want upfront, and how you want it done, with retard proof pictures. Make your merchant sign a contract that concerns locked in pricing, delivery date, size, features, construction method and pattern the whole way through. Write it so that they must provide a full refund, no questions asked, in the event that they have some issue and can't deliver that exact product for that amount. This is not a very big demand. If they won't sign it, they planned to cheap out on or scam you somehow and you can find someone else. I'm kicking myself for not thinking of making a real contract. Make them confirm a name in each communication and do not tolerate multiple people talking to you on the same account. This is how my factory made up lots of excuses. Do not pay more than a fourth up front. Do not mark the items as recieved to release funds for them, they tricked me into doing so. If they start talking about additional fees after you told them what you wanted and you got a quote already, it's a very bad sign and you should ask for refund. I got strung along hard this way. My factory told me that they'll cover the extra fees if they come up, then said they're too much to cover, and claimed the orders halfway done so they should keep my downpayment if I want to cancel. Far from the truth. They did not complete a prototype or one single piece the day I asked to cancel. This factory refused to refund, even when someone told me that their machines cannot support the size of the tails or the embroidery eyes, so the order cannot be completed at all. You should ask for the size of their embroidery machines and specify the height of every body part with a graph upfront. Run away from merchants saying that they're not sure if a piece can be done and won't clarify for a week. It either can or it can't. Don't proceed if they suggest implementing things in a half-assed way. Beware merchants that say they'll produce LS for $800 or under for a small order. In the case of the small team, they claimed that they didn't understand the requirements and asked for more money later to apply the appropriate construction. They refunded me when I said I couldn't pay their new quote. The factory were straight up extortionists. There were others who told me $500 to $700+ a pony for an order of at least 200 identical ones, but that each new one would have a large design fee. I asked for 120 cm and provided a pattern in every inquiry. This was a commonly cited range and minimum order size.Tldr; learn from my mistakes, protect yourselves, good luck, update us, make a sunbutt pls
>>43419722300dpi. The dashed lines are to cut the material a bit bigger to fold it at the edges.
>>43405600Looks nice!
slide protection bump
>>43422128Oh, we're back to this bullshit? 9
>>43419436>>43419438>>43419446i take ten
>>43405600Do we need to run 4chan ads like we did for Anonfilly 1.0?
>>43424055could be cool
where is my lifesize lunai have 300 dollars in cash sitting on my bookshelf right now
>>43425653>300>lifesizeguess again buddy boy
>>43419436That's super adorable Anon! Oneday we could do something like this as an accessory if things go well. May be a con exclusive.I am working on some funny advertising for MF4. Anyway no other news. Current preorders: 1423
>>43425893this is going to be the largest anon filly run by far, isn't it
>>43424055>>43424554Someone (not me) should make the assets
>>43425893>Also if we hit 1500 units ordered the manufacture cost drops to $7.06 and the cost of testing will be less than $1 per plushieinstead of discount how about a free accessory like this >>43419436 >>43419438
>>43426528That would need a whole new set of certifications just learn to sew that is like the easiest pattern to practice on
>>43425653I'll wait until end of month for anon talking to the manufacturer to respond. I think the guy claiming to have a Hasbro license is full of manure trying to stall. >>43421230Can you shut up? Not listening to your FUD or wall of text. Its happening because you guys are scam artists. China charges a fair price for standard work, you don't. Deal with it. The real irony is you skirt the same copyright laws they do, but you get a slice of the pie and don't want it to change.
>>43427699Hi, hasbroanon here. Please, continue with the other manufacturer. I'm only an alternative working on my own separate project.
Orders closing in a bit over two weeks, if anyone wants to bother making ad images now would be the timeIf nobody makes anything I might try making a gif or crop from the OP pic with the various angles and soijaks, but I'm really busy atm so not sure if I'll be able to get around to it
>>43426133It already is around twice as many as the previous largest run. These little shits will be everywhere. >>43426528no>>43428904This would be much appreciated. I'm admittedly very bad at advertising and art stuff. I'll have some special advertising at MF, but beyond that this has been purely word of mouth.
>>43429071>These little shits will be everywhere. good......
Quick update because the order form was wrong. At the end it mentioned that you should expect to receive an invoice in September. This is incorrect, you will be invoiced once the order of plushies have been made and they have been delivered to our distributor (likely early November). I've corrected that part of the order form, sorry I didn't catch it sooner.
>>43429686Uhh...what about the invoice I already got and paid off? Were those invoices earlier legit?
>>43428115Cool best of luck. Sorry to be overly paranoid. Please continue posting updates.
Dose anyone have a link to the video of an anon filly plushy being sent off the roof of a convention hotel in a home made balloon?
>>43429840https://pony.tube/w/8uM5qoZ8idFE8YCHa43jWp
>>43430040
>>43430040>>43430070>she came back
>>43429692NTA but OP explained that when placing a bulk order of many fillies you would get two invoices, one early one as an up-front to cover the manufacturing. I guess wait for OP to confirm but that was my understanding.
