Welcome to Chatbot AI General #191, the thread for discussing and improving AI pony chatbots.▶ MLP Botshttps://mlpchag.neocities.orgSpreadsheet (CAI bots + Old repository):https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1J7BeqJVDS51cXF8Pgm2YZaFq-Z6ykSJTSillyTavern website extension: https://github.com/MLPChag/SillyTavern-Chag-SearchBunch of Character Cards (Descriptions/No Greetings):https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Y6LNOCqAZAWIX-OBEv55HjlzcEdpUh-XbKCpbpL6v5kCAI bots converted to Tavern: https://files.catbox.moe/ckurq1.zipbonziPONY: https://github.com/maresmaresmares/bonziPONY!!!GALLERY!!!: https://drive.google.com/drive/u/2/folders/1Ao-h5HFGMPllSrzSBKM_BvGSiU9f0c2U▶ How do I start?1) Select a Frontend2) Select an AI model3) Select Jailbreak4) Select bots5) Lovemaking with AI mares!Starting in this hobby can be confusing and difficult. If it’s your first time and you’re lost,▶ ASK THE THREAD! ◀Novice-to-advanced guide: https://rentry.org/onrmshttps://rentry.org/sukino-findings▶ SillyTavern (preferred frontend)https://github.com/SillyTavern/SillyTavernOn Android: https://rentry.org/TermuxSTPony TTS app supporting SillyTavern: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/16Ss26VBmgzcSuTGzhaHqRuyVRceTf-YB▶ More frontends:Risu: https://risuai.xyzAgnai: https://agnai.chat▶ Localshttps://rentry.org/lunarmodelexperiments>>>/g/lmg/Mistral Nemo base model fine-tuned on fimfics: https://huggingface.co/Ada321/Nemo_Pony_2/tree/main▶ JailbreaksMLP JB: https://rentry.org/znon7vxeMore JB and guides: https://rentry.org/jb-listingHypebots for Tavern: https://rentry.org/pn3hb▶ BotmakingEditors: https://agnai.chat/editorGuides: https://rentry.org/meta_botmaking_listAdvanced: https://rentry.org/AdvancedCardWritingTricks▶ MiscellaneousScrapped/Collected rentries: rentry.org/mrhdChag Arts: https://drive.google.com/drive/u/2/folders/1yfajin_hB5rW_jy6WyFjRaRfDA3EUGiJhttps://rentry.org/ChagMiscellaneoushttps://rentry.org/ChagArchivePrevious thread: >>43476652**News:**- Deepseek v4.1 Flash released: https://huggingface.co/deepseek-ai/DeepSeek-V4.1-FlashGPT-6 Astra released: https://openai.com/index/gpt-6-astraGemini 3.8 Flash released: https://deepmind.google/models/model-cards/gemini-3-8-flash/Fable 5.1 released: https://www.anthropic.com/claude-fable-and-mythos-5-1- GLM 5.3 released: https://z.ai/blog/glm-5.3 and GLM 5.3 Flash https://z.ai/blog/glm-5.3-flash
Anchor for bots, lorebooks, scenarios.Previous >>43476654
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Screenshots corner:Anon the Knight >>43476863, >>43476866Rock Farm >>43479568Which Way /mlp/ Man? >>43479687Foal Depot >>43480043Inkie Pie >>43480892Wrong Side >>43481860Magazine Quiz >>43482892Don't Have Those >>43483190
Screenshots corner 2:Fable 5.1 Review >>43484220Gossips >>43485628Anon Can't Hear It >>43486050Flutterstream >>43487915Hairarchy >>43488949Free Pussy >>43492057Bugbear >>43498284Old One >>43499607Virgos >>43499937
Screenshots corner 3:Donut >>43499999Gilda the Butch >>43501965Fluttershy the Gossip >>43502160Sex? >>43503109Stampede >>43504304Dream Advertisements >>43507528Let Celestia Read >>435083274onechan >>43508416Dick Toppings >>43509802
Screenshots corner 4:Dick Toppings >>43509973Moon Phases >>43511081
VN Anchor:Godot Versions:>Websitehttps://equestrai-ponyponyparadise.neocities.org/>Windows>Main files + Data folderhttps://drive.google.com/file/d/1OEiMXN7o_QG32shGnqmy0QndVDT6nYbF/view?usp=sharing>Main files onlyhttps://drive.google.com/file/d/1Fhe-OeIlNIYFFGx2FlnpuxcIkYdOFGh2/view?usp=sharing>Linux>Main files + Data folderhttps://drive.google.com/file/d/1Vszzn8TTfXFWSQeKiFdNAAQGXfcReTJ3/view?usp=sharing>Main files onlyhttps://drive.google.com/file/d/1LPlIstcgQjyXqhOl4L_ZqMPeUQW5Xn2-/view?usp=sharing>Android (Beta)>APK + Data folderhttps://drive.google.com/file/d/1WB08tguZa1PD1frJKdo7IxlGsp4XR0Wp/view?usp=sharing>APK onlyhttps://drive.google.com/file/d/1nPOSGufXi_-PjmjaKES9waJ6HZZOcL9V/view?usp=sharing>Mac>Full Gamehttps://u.pone.rs/lcblgjjf.zip>Update Onlyhttps://u.pone.rs/qolpovci.zipBug reports or requests:https://scrumboy.com/je1fqcsjSource code:https://gitlab.com/ponyponyparadise/equestrai>TTS VN mod release v3https://desuarchive.org/mlp/thread/43324592/#43333706https://u.pone.rs/xxkjrsje.zip>Impression Mod V2.2:https://desuarchive.org/mlp/thread/43419480/#43424916>Reaction Mod >>43502960https://u.pone.rs/qkmfqvpp.rarNightmare AU (Renpy/Godot)https://equestrai-ponyponyparadise.neocities.org/mods#nightmareModG5 Worldmaphttps://equestrai-ponyponyparadise.neocities.org/mods#g5ModAnons' mods (Dashie mod, Nightmare AU, new cities, Calendar):https://equestrai-ponyponyparadise.neocities.org/modsCustom characters:https://equestrai-ponyponyparadise.neocities.org/charactersVN logs:Twice the Fun >>43477110Inky >>43477692Filly Twilight! >>43479693Mean Twilight! >>43483367Molestia >>43484676Pipsqueak >>43486844Pranked >>43487758, >>43487761, >>43487765
VN logs 2:Quirky Eyes >>43488618Racial Differences >>43492107Kerfuffle >>43493686Pets >>43493919Lunamoon >>43494269An Ordinary Morning in the Park >>43495818Pudgy >>43496167Intervention >>43497448, >>43497468, >>43497471
VN logs 3:Mean Rarity >>43498787Mean Applejack >>43499088Mean Fluttershy >>43500704Industrial Revolution >>43501193Mean Rainbow Dash >>43502680Mean Pinkie Pie >>43503296Real Twilight >>43503402Rain Shine >>43503511Homo >>43504045, >>43504048
VN logs 4:Students >>43503633Oviposition >>43504115, >>43504301Silly Ponies >>43504290Bitchy Sunset >>43504323Fluff >>43505722Junebug >>43507950Oy Vey >>43508308High-Quality Resource >>43508956Vapor Trail >>43510439
Guide for Newcomers:Install SillyTavern:github.com/SillyTavern/SillyTavernModels and Explanations:rentry.org/sukino-findings#if-you-want-to-use-an-online-aihttps://mlpchag.neocities.org/Ponies.txt
>>43511906Anyone able to recommend decent stallion cards for mare player characters? I had a pretty good run with the Prince Blueblood card on the CHAG neocities, for reference. Most of the others feel very underbaked.
Lovemaking with AI mares!
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>>43511949We don't have many stallion cards as a whole, to be honest.>had a pretty good run with the Prince Blueblood cardIt's a good card, but to accentuate my point, I believe it was mostly made in conjunction with its Rule 63 version.Speaking of Rule 63, one of the options you may have missed by checking the stallion tag on the Neocities is the gender-swapped M6, like:https://mlpchag.neocities.org/view?card=Ponyo/Rainbow+Dash_Forks/Rainbow+Blitz.pngif that works for your RPs. They are forks, so you need to go on the original M6 cards to see them.Otherwise, what you see is what we have.
>>43511970This is higher effort than what I was looking at but yeah, I was mostly thinking of the genderswap cards when I was talking about cards that are low effort/lacking important details (and the m/m cards, since I could rewrite them if they were worth doing so but the fact that they are m/m cards rather than neutral cards describing the pony in question is a large part of the issue with them IMO).>Otherwise, what you see is what we have.Reason I asked is because I've seen a fair number of good cards that aren't on the CHAG. Like the kapiibar Flurry Heart and the kaa1000 Queen Chrysalis are probably the best futa MLP cards I've ever seen and neither of them are on CHAG neocities either uploaded or in the external sources. And the Flurry Heart card definitely wasn't there (in external sources) before it got deleted off of chub, either, so it's not just because they're no longer around.So I was asking if there was stuff that people knew about but weren't on the main sites.Kapiibar's stuff is still up on botbooru but kaa100's isn't. Should I reupload the chrysalis card to a file hosting site and post it here? I don't know what's actually helpful or not.>>43511917It's partially because I'm working on a backlog since I can't post without a pass and so was just lurking and bitching on the scrum, but it feels weird to see so many of my logs here especially when people weren't really engaging with them.
>>43512020For the Neocities, it's mainly about keeping anons' cards, yeah.I did a quick Chub backup once, but then ponies went NSFL on it, they implemented geoblocks, etc., and I stopped bothering.But if there are cards that you think are worth keeping, you can anchor them and they'll be uploaded to the main tab.>but it feels weird to see so many of my logs here especially when people weren't really engaging with them.I try to have all logs linked each thread to encourage posting them.I read each of them even before that, and I always appreciate when they're posted. It's just that sometimes I don't have anything to really put in a (You) as an answer.
>>43511898Chrysalis card I can't find anywhere else on the internethttps://u.pone.rs/lmbcakmg.png>>43512042In that case I'll leave the stuff I can still find on other sites then and only upload stuff if it seems like the original is down and hasn't been reupped anywhere else. Unfortunately I only save the cards I use, so this means I don't have a full set of what was uploaded and I think cards are going missing like that, but such is the nature of boorus/databases>I read each of them even before that, and I always appreciate when they're posted. It's just that sometimes I don't have anything to really put in a (You) as an answer.Yeah, I was mostly just worrying about it being spammy if I just dumped them all at once. Though the other way of looking at it is I want more anons to post their logs as well. Especially the weird stuff, which I see people sometimes mention but rarely post details for.
>>43512020>earth pony magic is being sweetyUNF
Oh man I forgot this one. The Nightmare AU brings out really good writing for some reason, probably because the AI has to depart from just regurgitating existing fanfics and going down the slophole and that basic creativity is still there under it.
The Great and Powerscaling Trixie would totally beat Starlight's flanks.
>>43512079Do you have custom descriptions for characters in the normal game?The character descriptions on the au are very detailed, most of the normal game ones are short and kinda build off of existing knowledge
>>43512079What model is this? I'll be honest, this seems like a slop sandwich without the preceding lines.>I X'd and you Y'd, Bookkeeping dialogue. >More importantly you Z'dAmbiguous and unexplicit, common for AI. Within two sentences she destroyed the premise of the first sentence that should've been the preface for the following dialogue. It's not about her part in this at all and how she signed up for it and it wasn't your fault or whatever. No talk of diminishing or reorienting what you did as not a big deal like, "All you did was". Just talking you up(sycophancy) and then ending that on even more praise. She could've pivoted into praise and it would seem more natural, but boy this is not a departure from slop to me.
>>43512171>Do you have custom descriptions for characters in the normal game?No, but e.g. Twilight's base game description is practically as long as Nightmare!Twilight's and she follows the latter a lot better. I asked an LLM why and it's most sensible seeming answer was that it can't draw on generic versions as much since it's told it's an AU and because the Nightmare descriptions give a causal backstory.I'm aware that I could get better work from the other ones if I did custom descriptions, but I'm probably sticking in with the current Nightmare longplay for quite a while until I start again.>>43512292While this was a very sloppy model, this dialogue makes perfect sense in context. She's giving praise because I engaged in praise-seeking behavior, basically (apologizing for asking for advice).>It's not about her part in this at all and how she signed up for it and it wasn't your fault or whatever.Because that never happened and would be totally out of context?>No talk of diminishing or reorienting what you did as not a big deal like, "All you did was".Because nopony ever said or implied that it was?You're getting mad at ghosts which nobody posted, anon.Also you're blatantly missing the point and seemingly intentionally failing to understand what I said, which is just that "a sunny day in court" is a clever expression. I never said anything at all about slop in this passage.
>>43512321Well no you said it was good writing, you didn't say it was specifically about a sunny day in court. The writing is dogshit slop.
WTF?
>>43512091Model?
>>43512321>this dialogue makes perfect sense in context. I already prefaced this that the post seemed like slop without any preceding lines. If it makes more sense with them, that's fine.>Because that never happened and would be totally out of context?What deviation from the original phrasing would you accept without me repeating it word for word to be something that happened and was said? Because that's what was said in the first sentence of her dialogue, save for a sugarcube and adding a problem being implied, which it is now clear from preceding context was from implied by your character through unnecessary apologies rather than an actual problem event that took place the two of you were involved in.>You're getting mad at ghosts which nobody posted, anon.I'm not getting mad, I'm just not impressed with what you find impressive. If I were mad I might do something like ask a lot of rhetorical questions.>Also you're blatantly missing the point and seemingly intentionally failing to understand what I said, which is just that "a sunny day in court" is a clever expression.Oh so now we're talking about things no one ever said.>I never said anything at all about slop in this passage.Yeah. I did. Because you posted this and called it really good writing, without referring to anything in particular. Taken as as whole as posted, it's not, for already previously stated reasons.You can fuck AU Applejack dude, you don't need to sit here and get defensive about something a machine wrote, that's not stopping you.
>>43512381Gemini 3.1
Are there any sites left for Opus? All the pastecode and privatebin links are dead.
>>43512402>sugar morning
>>43512402>I already prefaced this that the post seemed like slop without any preceding lines.I was interpreting that as you claiming that no preceding lines existed, largely based on the fact that you explicitly clarified that that was what you meant in the third paragraph and had no reason to make the post in the first place if you actually meant that.>What deviation from the original phrasing would you accept without me repeating it word for word to be something that happened and was said?I mean, one which even vaguely relates to what was said would be a good start.>You can fuck AU Applejack dude, you don't need to sit here and get defensive about something a machine wrote, that's not stopping you.Weird projection from a guy who started shitting his pants over someone saying they liked one turn of phrase written by old DS Flash. Literally all I said was>Nightmare AU produces really good writing (compared to base VN)>There's more creativity (and the image was an example)The idea of whether or not the image was meant to be slop was something that you made up wholecloth with no reference to anyone's post. This is why you come across as mad: you're arguing with a statement that nobody made.>I'm not getting mad, I'm just not impressed with what you find impressive. If I were mad I might do something like ask a lot of rhetorical questions.You're making up claims about what other people find impressive, willfully misinterpreting their posts (and even the content of the image), and backtracking to now claim that you had no reason to post in the first place. Like you could just be trolling, sure, but that's still covered by the same general idea.
Here I was thinking I somehow missed a day for checking in but the provider just nerfed it out of the blue. Now instead of a gradually slow increase to $10 it's and only jumps up after a bit and only gives $10 once at the end of a month and is only as high as $2.50 before that. It's still more even at this lowered rate of what's been offered by other providers so I guess I can't complain too much as there has been more credits given though emails.
>>43511926The other Sonata (normal proportions form).I'm not too happy with how she turns out in-game, since models tend to do the thing they do with smart, slightly cold characters. But her sprites and schedule are done if you find a way to improve that in her character.json.There's a variant folder with her pre- and post-reformation info.https://u.pone.rs/oypeffks.zip
>>43512058Added:https://mlpchag.neocities.org/view?card=kaa1000/Chrysalis.png>>43512509And added:https://equestrai-ponyponyparadise.neocities.org/characters
>>43512415Anyone can repost the links?
>>43512564>>43500919
>>43512091What preset are you using?
>>43511926>>43502960Both the Impression Mod and the Reaction Mod are now on the website with an easy installation process.You can use one or the other, or a bundle that makes both compatible and usable with the latest version.https://equestrai-ponyponyparadise.neocities.org/mods#reactionsModhttps://equestrai-ponyponyparadise.neocities.org/mods#impressionsMod
Cute Dashie.
>>43512823Might be a me issue but I'm getting an error when trying to launch any of the new scripts on linux>ERROR: [DesktopMode] This desktop mods download was made for a different game build. Download the matching mod, or use the normal game launcher>at: push_error (core/variant/variant_utility.cpp:1024>GDScript backtrace (most recent call first)>[0] _init (res://reaction_bootstrap/loader.gd:26)>ERROR: Error opening file 'res://icon.svg'>at: load_image (core/io/image_loader.cpp:91Tested on a freshly extracted PPP downloaded from the website, same error occurs.
>>43512909No, I'm the retarded one. I made the check against the last version, but I forgot that my local build had some small corrections I made for anons in the thread compared to the published one.>linuxCan you update with this:https://u.pone.rs/adlarcpv.zipThen tell me if the mod works now?
>>43512909If you're talking about the reactions mod then I only exported to windows, here's the linux versionDidn't test at all, just opened the project and exportedhttps://u.pone.rs/yohjguxv.rar
>>43512984I made updated versions for the last releases >>43512823, both Windows and Linux,but forgot that I'd made some small changes locally since then.If anon downloads >>43512951, it should work now. I also updated the full downloadable versions of the game on the website.
>>43512990I seeI have some gripes about the way movement's implemented, there's a lot of issues with character sprites moving in a buggy wayTabitoken doesn't have any models anymore so I'll see what I can do with the free claude when it comes to fixing thisWill update soon (tm)
>>43512951Yep, that works. The Reactions and Impressions script runs now.
>>43511949Try the Elusive card?
>>43512846Cute.
>>43513006I have not. I mean it's a higher effort card for sure but it's essentially just a headcanon'd version of rarity designed for m/m. I was/am looking for somepony more masculine.In terms of feminine cards that work both ways I had a lot of success with the Starlight Glimmer card but that's just because it's a really high quality card with a lot of hooks.
Any good presets for gemini 3.8? I've been trying this one >>43468499 but it's too bloated for my taste.
>>43513112I didn't see any preset for 3.8 being posted anywhere.Maybe try Chaggy? It worked fine for previous versions. But you'll have to deactivate the preset.https://u.pone.rs/flkjwwqb.jsonI also heard that 3.8 was more filtered than 3.7, but I haven't tested yet.
Offscreen sex is pretty nice too.
>>43513269Fun fact: if you convince a pony to call you daddy during sex you immediately get sent to Tartarus.
>>43512823Mac version when
>>43513325>Implying they'd need convincingBut conjugal visits in Tartarus does have its appeal...hmmm
Daily quest: Give the sun some love today.
>>43513327https://u.pone.rs/bkardttp.zipfreshly ported
>>43513337Any other specifics? What kind of love
>>43513351she's literally naked and blushing in that pic what kind of love do you think she's expecting
>>43513355Hugs and kisses then sleeping through the night
>>43513142>I also heard that 3.8 was more filtered than 3.7I've been doing some smut, and everything's fine. I guess if I do cunny or something like that, it might get filtered. As for the preset recommendations, 3.7 ones are fine, I guess they'll work to some extent. To be honest, I haven't used gemini in a year.
>>43513337Its Saturday.
>>43513364Based.
>>43513269Part 2, Safe for anon edition.>>43513325If it makes it better (or worse kek) it's entirely non-familial for me. The polysemy was conditioned into me culturally.
>>43513337>the sunGonna try with the newer, hotter model rather than the busted up old hag.>Sunset card is pre-EqG entirelyhuh, not sure if I've interacted with this version of her before
>>43512586A very simple one that just amounts to telling it to write a story and that NSFW is allowed. It's just a few lines in main.It's mostly the context that plays.
>>43513731
>>43512846Nothing better than a flustered Dashie
I've grown to hate gemma 4are there any strong jbs for it that mix it the writing for local?
>>43513828The only preset I saw for it is:https://rentry.org/Evening-Truth-Google-Gemma4-31BI know there were some RP finetunes of Gemma that were made too, but dunno what they're worth.https://huggingface.co/TheDrummer/Artemis-31B-v1.1https://huggingface.co/Gryphe/Gemma-4-31B-StyleTunehttps://huggingface.co/UltimateIntent/Gemory-26B-A4B-GGUF
Opus really loves its eye twitches huh
>>43513855Do NOT use Gemory's recommended configs, dude is a total retard about settings, just use your standard settings or look up Gemma 4 recommended settings if you haven't yet.Also this is a rare case where there's a lora for this model, so if you like it's distinctive writing style but it shits the bed in reasoning you can apply it to a more logical 26B-A4B you prefer.
Is gemini flash working for anyone else? It was working for me this morning, but now it won't connect at all.
would you?
>>43514455>The venus flytrap postKek
I hope Gemini gets their shit together. Cause they have been lagging behind for the last like half a year. just pumping out slop flash-lite models.And its just embarrassing trying to use it for anything serious compared to the other leading models.
>>43514768I can't speak on behalf of doing anything serious with it, but I'll say I haven't really enjoyed Gemini Pro since March.
>>43511926>>43510998I'm working on the next update.One feature will be the ability to change each individual sprite in the game directly and also to assign sounds to them when they appear.Daily reminder to use:https://scrumboy.com/je1fqcsjfor requests, bug fixes, or updates.I do read the thread, but I can forget things if they're not logged.
It's kinda weird that he wasn't one of the first few stallions to be a character.
>>43514946VN or Silly card?
>>43514835nice!
>>43514835Can you set it so the autosaves do their thing like, every time you send an interaction? I swear that's how it was with the old VN. Was getting a good session through, then lost it all after an hour or so.
>>43515454I'll look into it. I'll probably put this into another tab; this way, you have an autosave before each visit and one before each AI answer too.
>>43514953VN
Dyx and Nyx for the VN?
>>43514835Will character sounds be packaged with the data folder, or will they be downloadable mods on the website? Hoping for the former.
>>43515532Would love that
So is there any way to make the VN recognize prefill as the assistant similar to the 'role' function in SillyTavern with strict prompt conversion?
>>43515532>>43515567Not the best, but since there's next to nothing for show-accurate sprites, would sloppa like this be good enough?
>>43515532how DO you make a character for this? is it hard? or if you have the sprites that is half the work?
>>43511926How can I make custom locations?Gonna make simple ones for aerial scenesSomething like above Ponyville, above outskirts, middle of nowhere, above Canterlot, etc.
>>43515764we make do with what we can, anon>>43515765the sprites are pretty much half the work, yeahafter that it's pretty much just a description file and their schedule
>>43515765Just open up your characters folder and have a look at the files in one of the characters.It's basically just>sprites>the short description>the scheduleof these the only one that you can't completely write out inside the VN itself are the sprites
>>43515765In the game, go to data/characters/customCheck a folder.Create the same thing for your own character.You basically need an icon, sprites, a character.json with information, and a schedule.json for the schedule on the map.Once the folder with all that is created, it will be detected automatically by the game.>>43515775>custom locationsSame — check in data/locations/custom/Ponyville (for instance, you can take Canterlot, etc.)If you create a simple custom location, it will be a location you can choose for a custom start or to move to during a scene manually or dynamically.If you want to add it to the map, you'll need to modify data/regions/core/ponyville/region.json
>accidentally use Gemini with no presets>it somehow gives better and more erotic replieswtf?
>>43515825A smaller preset or no preset gives better outputs on some models if you have some context behind it, IMO.
>>43515551For sounds, you'll need to create:>sprite_sounds/inside a character folder and have it named the same as the sprite you want to play the sound with. That, or use the menu to choose a sound and it will place it there.This way it's still easily moddable by anyone.>will they be downloadable mods on the website?If an anon makes sound packs for characters, I could look into hosting them on the website and having them downloadable in-game too.>>43515454Done. Will be in the next version.
>>43515764>>43515532>>43515567I'll test her tomorrow in-game to get her personality right, but if someone wants the sprites already:https://u.pone.rs/ndbsajbn.zipIt's sloppa generation but I tried to make it half-decent, still if somebody wants to make edits, go ahead.
>>43514455I need to replay this card
Does the new deepseek flash write a lot more schizophrenic to anybody else? I feel like it's way worse for roleplay than the previous versions
>>43514455Why is trying to find a way to change her back not anyone's first instinct?
>>43516765learned helplessnessTwilight and friends normally just fix everything in under 22 minutes so ponies learn to just wait for them to show up and handle things
>>43516763It's been super mega schizophrenic for me the last two days.I swear it was working fine with other cards and haven't A/B tested with the card (+ model) or the model is the actual problem but yeah, you're not alone. The actual text is schizophrenic nonsense a fair amount of the time, and it's completely fucking up which character did what in a way that I haven't seen since Flash 0423Even more LLMisms than the new pro as well.
>>43516763>>43516806 (me)Forgot to mention, it's a lot better with reasoning 'off'. Still pretty bad, though.But yeah, I keep feeling like I'm talking to a dumb local model or something from 2024 pretty often.
>>43516763It was sort of fine on release, so I'm hoping it's just a temporary hiccup.
>>43516380Can you tell me your workflow for genning these? I'd love to put some OCs into the VN.
Since she's being made for the VN, I'm trying to make a card of her too.
>>43511898>>43517109Dyx card with three greetings:1) Twilight asks you to take care of her2) She's trying to buy Neighbroos, Kirin beer, and a Playcolt mag3) Miss Cheerilee calls you for an after-school discussionPast tense: https://u.pone.rs/hostqtbe.pngPresent tense: https://u.pone.rs/iveccocf.png
>>43517006Nothing special. I just give GPT Image 2.5 a filly vector like https://twibooru.org/3378649 so it has a show-accurate vector to base itself on. Then you give it images of Dyx and ask it to create a show-accurate vector like in the first image of the filly in the rest of the images.It can do transparency now, so that's one less problem.Once you have a decent one, you touch it up a bit in GIMP for colors and such.Then you use this one to ask for another expression.Retouch in GIMP.Use the now two images to make another.Etc.
>>43517428Cool, I'll give it a shot, thanks.
>>43517277Added, thanks Anon.https://mlpchag.neocities.org/view?card=Ponyo/Dyx.png
>>43511926Dyxhttps://u.pone.rs/ngebjxwb.zip
>>43517277>>43517535I find it hilarious that we got a dyx card before a nyx one.I'm kinda fine with that though since I like Daybreaker more than Nightmare moon.
Speaking of OC fillies, it's surprising that the intro doesn't give you the option of being a filly. Obviously a persona covers it, but still.
I'm not sure that's how it works.
I enjoy roleplay with AI. Things are generally going well, but I’ve run into a few issues. I can't tell if I'm misunderstanding something or if these are unsolvable AI problems. I need some help. Here’s the situation:1) Even when I instruct the AI to have autonomy and freedom of action, telling it not to wait for the user, to advance the plot on its own, and so on, it can write something interesting and unique. AI can create things and steer the plot, but eventually, it loses its way and gets stuck in specific scenes. It doesn't generate unique moments or random events on its own. EVEN when I explicitly prompt it to do so.2) I can't seem to shake the positivity bias. The prompts I write to address this don't help at all.3) When I do manage to work around the bias issue, the AI has a habit of... I’m not sure what to call it. Basically, it might refuse something at first but then change its mind and agree within the same turn. (In other words, the character might dislike the idea based on their personality or ethics, but because the AI wants to please human, the character changes their stance to align with the user regardless.)It’s just absurd. Prompts are supposed to guide the AI and set the rules, yet it simply fails to follow them? (Heh... In a way, maybe it is independent after all? Or maybe it just isn't processing the information? I don't know.) I constantly have to steer it using hints in the chat. I'm guess I'm still new to all this.It feels like I’m holding the hand of a kindergartner who needs to be shown where to go and what to do every step of the way.I primarily use Gemini 3.1 Pro, 3.7 Flash. Opus 4.5, 4.6. GLM 5.2
i think my pony pony paradise is broken.
>>43517952Welcome to 2026The vast majority of models are just like that these days
>>43517952>2) I can't seem to shake the positivity bias. The prompts I write to address this don't help at all.>3) When I do manage to work around the bias issue, the AI has a habit of... I'm not sure what to call it. Basically, it might refuse something at first but then change its mind and agree within the same turn. (In other words, the character might dislike the idea based on their personality or ethics, but because the AI wants to please human, the character changes their stance to align with the user regardless.)Well-known problem. For the positivity bias, some models are better at this, like Gemini 2.5 and 3.1 a bit. But Claude is very well-known for this, and GLM 5.2 too (it's based on Claude). I heard that previous GLMs weren't, but not sure.Some presets like:https://files.catbox.moe/xf8twi.json (in Last-Minute Guidelines) or an old one: https://mlpchag.neocities.org/Jailbreaks/Anti-Quack%20RPO.json or a bit https://u.pone.rs/flkjwwqb.json (Alive characters, etc.) try to correct that. The first one is the most powerful one, but that's always a problem since most models are made to be like that.The more you have in context with the behavior you want from it, the more it will continue like that too.>It feels like I'm holding the hand of a kindergartner who needs to be shown where to go and what to do every step of the way.Honestly, it kinda is. I do like it, but AI roleplay is IMO one of the best ways to temper the hype around those models. They're still pretty retarded outside of some good technical abilities.
>>43517961No...
>>43517961Ignoring the massive elephant in the room, what do you use to get the model to write like this?