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Flawless was really cute in this framefirst for high impact mare-on-stallion sexual violence
Who inherited their mom's futa cock, Flawless or Fracture?
>>43558988Flawless beats Fractured so blue is clearly the mayo wielder
My little retards
>>43558960MY WIFE and her greasy, slimy, unwashed fart spewing PONUT
>>43558960
>>43558960https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPvOIjlD-xQ
fwaless
>>43559105Mari~
>>43559105I can't get over the fact she's supposed to be walking here but it just looks like she wants to pee really bad.
>yeah I'm not going to go back to my parents because I hate him even though he loved me and my mom and tried to protect me>Mari get your ass over here so that I may fart on your face>oh boyWhy is she like this?
>>43559163She hates herself.
>>43559163Mari's favorite thing is being recreationally madIt's why she's a mares rights extremist in a world where stallions have essentially zero relevance
tamer are you gay
There I am, Gary, there I am!
>>43559226So true and based
>>43559226
>>43559226If only the episode premiered today, as it's National Boyfriend Day
>>43559008Who are these background characters?
>>43559505blue
>>43559331Stallion timeline Pinkiedash deserved better
>>43558960Can someone make a gif of the Flawless bullet scene?
>>43559860It's already been made anon, here you go.
>>43559875thanks!
>>43559875why is it so hot
>>43558960>Flawless casts doubt on the assumption that she is omnipotent>Is seemingly omnipotent, often idly threatens to erase ponies from existencewhat did she mean by this?
>>43559505Peepee Pie, Rainbow Down and Rarishits.
>>43559890I don't think she's sure about it because nobody has been able to test it. At first she shows fear of the princesses' power. Bartleby doesn't count because he's Bartleby. I thought Trixie was more powerful than her since she ascended to godhood. Besides Trixie is one of the few characters who isn't afraid to set boundaries with her.Also running on the assumption that Flawless and Fractured are weaker when separated. As shown in the Tournament of Power then they fuse back again.
>>43559890Full power Flawless lost to Twiggypiggy's weakest transformation and the princesses repeatedly trash her for being a pale imitation of her mothers even before Trixie is any good.Implications seem to be pretty strong that the princesses are still more powerful than Twilight and pegacorn!Trixie or at least the main two are still afraid of them and even just Luna by herself even when they're doing their biggest shit and Trixie ran to her for help and stuff.Pre pegacorn/abyss Cadance was definitely more powerful than them so I feel like the ranking isGlimmerFlawlessCadance/ChrysalisTwilight/TrixieCelestia/Lunafrom least to most with the only really ambiguous one being flawless vs. cadanceit's just that the mirror ponies are walking around with their metaphysical dick out at all times whereas the main 2 and the princesses only flash their junk occasionally and are usually operating on a much lower level.Like Trixie could obviously win at basketball by remaking the universe but last time she did something like that the princesses sent her to the moon and she just took itWhereas it seems like way more effort for Flawless to do even individual reality edits but she gets away with doing them all the time.I'd really love to get more Sunset she had a good dynamic with the main cast. What I'd especially want is a proper Celestia and Sunset episode.Funnily enough Celestia taking Twilight starting a family without her so hard is really contextualized by the fact that in this universe it's probably the second time she got rejected (the first literal maybe) by her groomed student
>>43560237This but she's wearing a wedding dress instead
Lamers12345
>>43560387Being a god of life doesn't suck at all. Being a changeling drone is worse, but we don't know if she's gay, do we?
>>43560397She's straight on her father's side and an equal opportunities rapist on her mother's side. I think it's 75/25, world or not.
>>43560237Will her and Fractured have matching costumes?
Do you guys think Derpy will take Dinky's death well?
>>43560397No?Literally every straight character is in mares. Yaoi has forced jokes about how every single character is gay, and in reality they're not just gay but specifically in a show which is >70% female the majority of characters are gay men, with OCs churned out to fill the slots.Even the straight sidecharacters (e.g. Derpy) are just mares characters that were transferred over unchangedThe last two mares multi-episode subplots have been about romance that was partially or entirely straight (FMF love triangle, pure straight sibling sex) and this has always been the trend. Cadence is so straight that she manages to stay straight despite getting R63'd and even the alicorn of homosexuality herself sexually assaults and is being romantically teased with a man.Even though canonically the vast majority of mares background ponies must be gay, but they don't act on it due to Celestia's regime - which is itself a coherent world as well as a throwaway joke.
>>43560413Dinky will just be in another episode like she never blew up.
>>43560442She'll probably be the white dude with the fat black guy who finds Walter White's massive stash of cash and lay on it just to see what sleeping on millions of dollars feels like. And no I haven't watched Breaking Bad, I'm too busy going through The Sopranos currently, just starting Season 2.
>>43560447All the Antagonists, all of the side characters, all of the mane 6Death isn't very permanent
>>43560451Why was nightlight so hung up on the incest part and ignoring how much oxygen there was in the motel 6?That's simply not what he was talking about.
>>43560451Stallions are incapable of comprehending loveAlso his fragile masculinity is challenged by the concept of incest because all of his children (and all of their children) have a better shot with his wife than he does
>>43560451I feel like they should have referenced Velvet and Shining almost fucking or Velvet lusting for her son.
>>43560462Why does this look better than the Mare art nowadays?
>>43560451What are you talking about? He said it himself bitch, “a real man should[n’t] be knocking up his sister and living in a motel”. He needs to get a house for his woman.Shit was pretty funny though. Bro btfo incestfags with facts and logic. t. incestfag
>>43560472The mare arts still good though.
>>43560472You're just gay for Shiny.
>>43560487Who isn't?
My Chrysalis x Luna ship can still happen. They're doing the same therapy plans
>>43560799Chrysalis x Cadance is more likely to happen now that they can bond over getting cucked by Luna.
>>43560404Most likely. But I like to imagine Trixie and Twilight could only afford one so they fight over who gets to wear it. But it seems they now possess newfound wealth thanks to Blueblood's haul. I wonder what they'll do with all that money.
Whenever Tamers tries to get serious it reminds me of that awful Family Guy episode where Quagmire’s sister has an abusive boyfriend and the whole episode treats it seriously and barely has any jokes in it. Pretty much any Mari and Glimmer episode is like that for me.
>>43560935I can see how they're similar, but the tone and animation have much different presentations. Family's Guys art style and animation is a atrocious, so, ironically, How can I take any if it seriously?I like Tamers' work.
>>43560935Given that quagmire is the character in question, the whole point is likely that it is hypocritical of him to expect another man to treat his sister like a person, when he normally lives in a horny haze of comedic dehumanization. It is similarly hypocritical of family guy to attempt serious commentary when it normally lives in a sarcastic haze of comedic dissociation. So, you are forced to reach one of two conclusions if you willingly engage with the episode.Either>The episode is full of shit for attempting to be meaningful at this point and quagmire should shut his hipocritical mouth, in which case he's the bad guy.>Quagmire is right here, which indicates that actually everything DOES count and the apathetic comedic malice which family guy normally engages in is wrongIn other words, one way or another, that episode is commenting on the family guy formula, and is likely critical of it. t. hasn't watched the shit
>>43560958Exactly. Why should I give a shit when Mari’s Dad or Glimmer hits her when the entire cast is pulling similar horrible behavior for laughs constantly?
>>43560935>>43560995The stuff you're describing isn't meant to be taken seriouslyOr like all of it is including the stuff Twilight does. I'm not really sure how you're interpreting the show but it's definitely wrong.>Exactly.The characters in tamers MLP are villains. You're not supposed to identify with any of them. Twilight and her wife are psychotic arrogant murderers and this is played straight. If you need a reason to care about your favorite murder horse it should just be because she's cute or she's funny.Just because Mari thinks that she's a sympathetic character doesn't meant that she actually is - you're talking about somepony that is killing ponies and skinning them alive for fun. The fact that she actually tries to give explanations for her behavior is partially a joke and partially just characterization
>>43560935Most adult animated sitcoms can be all over the top and then try to be preachy afterwards because they're made for the mainstream so they have to have a point to justify all the gratuitous violence and humor. If they don't have a point then they get called out and you have a Drawn Together situation or any of those mid to awful adult animated series that those cartoon reviewers won't stop bitching about. Tamers works better as a synthesis of fanfiction tropes that are meant to be taken seriously but you can't because of the absurdity of it all. And the only reason why it works is its honesty. It's not going to have a character look at the camera and say "yeah this is stupid" after a real significant event happened. If you care for the characters and if they believe the absurdity of their reality then it becomes easier to suspend your disbelief.That's something I truly appreciate about Tamers as a writer. No matter how crude the reality of this world seems depicted. It never grows bitter or cynical. It never feels like it's looking down on the tropes he seems to be taking from. And it thrives on them as the core appeal while also recognizing their absurdity. With how many new series out there that try to stand out by ripping on the past it's just refreshing to see something that doesn't scream "this thing you liked is shit and you should like this version instead". (Which is ironic with how many times Tamers himself has said to watch his videos instead of the source of his material)>>43560995I think the main problem is that with so much violence there is it's becoming increasingly difficult for anything to be shocking, therefore the weight of those actions are diminished and less likely to change our perception of the characters enforcing them. A character can blow the brains out of someone only for them to come back to life the next episode. But I think this is the result of overexposure after years of consuming his content. It's not exactly a character problem. It's just that the gags and repetition are starting to show for some people. The abuse of Mari isn't shocking anymore because it happens on every episode she appears. The fact that every dad in the series (Except for CP's dad) has to be abusive or have violent tendencies makes it less meaningful for characters to be affected by it. Do people even shock at Care Package and Apple Split killings anymore? And this also applies to the melodrama. No matter how funny a joke is you can tell it once or twice but the third time isn't going to be as funny. Imagine laughing at the same joke for years.
>>43561039You are clearly supposed to be sympathetic to Mari and treat her abuse seriously. Why else would so many scenes featuring her be so dark and humorless? Her entire character is basically summed up by her abuse. Sure she kills people but it’s always nameless background ponies, it’s treated like a character quirk instead of a heinous act.
>>43561071>Why else would so many scenes featuring her be so dark and humorless?He's the Meg of Tamers' MLP
>>43561082*SheSorry
>>43561071>You are clearly supposed to be sympathetic to Mari and treat her abuse seriously.Oh and what's your evidence for that? That if you pretend that she's sympathetic and treat her abuse seriously then the show doesn't work? Yeah nah>Why else would so many scenes featuring her be so dark and humorless?They aren't? There's the occasional self-serious scene but that is part of the joke in those scenes. Like you aren't supposed to be sympathetic to Tirek either even though he gets abused nonstop. It's the same sort of genre as slapstick ultraviolence like Superjail or XRA.Like yeah man this scene is so clearly humorless and meant to be taken seriously I'm sure
>*slurp*
>>43560995Why should you give a shit when starlight farts a random stallion to death? You seem to. You seem to think it is very funny. Why?Well, because all those words have definitions which describe a specific thing when used in this order, and that thing is funny. In other words, you can only have humor so long as you still have enough grounding that anything happening on screen means anything to you.So, if tamers just continues to pump absurd ultra violence and feces at you for years, and yet you don't suffer from loss or smell shit ever, then your understanding of the meaning of shit and murder will change in the context of tamers. Shit would just mean "brown irrelevant detail" and death would just mean "the character will shut up for a moment." and eventually you'll feel nothing.But, that hasn't happened. yet. Flippancy isn't constructive, and does not make for good entertainment, long-term. Desensitization and the destruction of meaning is incomplete without sensitization and the construction of meaning. So, if flippant murder and apathy are just the other side of the coin of care, then care is not actually hypocritical. It is, in fact, the exact same action, that action being the evaluation of your personal values. And, you know, it's not like the tone shift is actually that heavy. We're not suddenly watching a full and skilled rendition of phantom of the opera, complete with actors and a set for an hour and a half. We are instead watching two lesbians literally breaking spines while also getting giddy over the mere implication that they might liiiiiiike~~~~ eachother~~~ <3<3<3(crunch)If there's an issue, then it's an issue of pacing being slowed to an absolute crawl and like 4 episodes giving us basically the same mari backstory in a row, and not an issue of "how dare the artist expect me to think about the art they make which I willingly consume and actually feel something for once".
>>43560692I would say im not gay for this cutey, but every time I see him I get thoughts about sleeping with him.
>>43558960Reminder tamers12345 put explicit sex scenes in his videos, flipped age restriction on and off so it would get shown to minors, then removed the sex scenes from his archive. Pedo groomer.
Tamers12345 isnt mlp related. He's a hack who stole sonic characters for his OCs, then stole MLP characters for his OCs. Not pony related. Belongs on >>>/trash/Imagine thinking people write walls of text about poo poo jokes. Most obvious anti-mlp psyop
>>43561222Proof of any of this?
>>43561230>but its okay when Hot Diggety Demon and hundreds of other artists did itRetard
Don't feed the schizos just ignore them
>>43561039>>43561112I honestly think you have no idea what tamers is going for. You are very clearly supposed to take the characters seriously at times, I don't know how you can watch the show and not understand that. The fact that there is ultraviolence and characters doing evil shit doesn't actually detract from the serious moments where you can relate to the characters and appreciate their stories, because it's basically the show switching between different "modes" of storytelling. If you don't have good enough media literacy to identify when the show is in one mode or the other, that's on you.
>>43561329You're injecting random bullshit which I didn't say and much more importantly, isn't in the show into the conversation and whining that I don't parse things through your myopic lens.Appreciating the humor doesn't detract from appreciating the storytelling. The narrative that because a scene conveys real information it can't have jokes, or that jokes can't convey real information and that comedic scenes have to be taken to mean nothing is entirely inside your head.> it's basically the show switching between different "modes" of storytellingNo.Every frame of every episode is every "mode" of storytelling. Something doesn't arbitrarily stop existing in the work just because it's in a moment which predominantly has another tone. They exist together.
Death of Twilight Sparkle was so impactful because of its serious moments, which themselves could also be taken as joke (gays are funny). Leading up to the climax of their movie, most of the Twixie moments in previous are pretty much all taken seriously. Sure, Twilight stuffing her face with bologna sandwiches while she becomes friends with Trixie is funny, and so is Trixie telling Twilight "now she's just another bitch" after she lost her alicorn status and she almost starts crying, it was still a wholesome moment that built the very foundation of tamers' magnum opus and his ongoing best show.
>>43561335>Every frame of every episode is every "mode" of storytellingThis is simply not true. Some actions in the show are clearly shown to have no consequences to the plot, while others do. Some scenes are gags, and others are real parts of the story. Sometimes these get mixed, I'll agree on that, but that doesn't mean that they're always mixed, or that every evil thing a character does should be taken seriously as a real part of their character. Your assertion that twilight and trixie are supposed to be viewed purely as villains proves to me that you don't understand the show on a basic level. Twilight is currently going through a villainous phase, because most of her bad actions during the episode are "real" and meant to inform her arc, and not simply gag violence. If she was meant to be a "psychotic arrogant murderer" from the get go, what would be the meaning of her current arc? Why would she have decided to try being more selfish/evil in the first place? And why would Trixie talk about flawless inheriting empathy from her?I don't expect to convince you, but I'm confused how you've ostensibly watched 32+ hours of Tamers content and ended up this far off-base.
>>43561335When the coyoteis flattened by the acme anvilI do not vomit from being exposed to the most disgusting death I've ever witnessed.That reaction does not exist, because of the tone and the mode of storytelling.
>>43561364>what would be the meaning of her current arc?Celestia found twilight in the wild just once, and twilight when viewed from this outside perspective was basically brutalizing people casually. She was doing this because that's what she was taught for most of her life. The difference now is not that she's more evil, it's that she's rebelling. That's also the actual reason why celestia had to try to destroy her candy operation, or at least a reason. It is natural that celestia would oppose actions which are a direct challenge to her personally.
>>43561377>twilight was basically brutalizing people casually.Did you forget the part where she literally got fired from being an Alicorn because of that? She hasn't been like that ever since, she still deals with the consequences of that to this day, such as when Celestia keeps humiliating her by making everyone an Alicorn BUT her. Twilight wasn't raised to be cruel merciful killer, she was raised to be a perfect loyal bitch to Princess Celestia.
*merciless
>>43561401It is perfectly possible, and expected, that celestia would raise twilight to be a merciless attack dog and then also reject and humiliate her for behaving like a rabid attack dog. That just sounds like what celestia would do, and also he hired twilight and crew to kill braeburn and burn his farm and called that good. So she factually made her do a merciless killing.
>>43561413>So she factually made her do a merciless killing.That's the difference. The Arson episode was Twilight acting on Celestia's orders; her murdering innocent ponies in the Unicorn Con episode wasn't. You know, I wish CP would get even a FRACTION of the long term consequences Twilight faces for being a murderer. But nah, CP is an author's pet and a terrible character.
>>43561328Mari....
>>43561364>This is simply not true.It is.>I don't expect to convince you, but I'm confused how you've ostensibly watched 32+ hours of Tamers content and ended up this far off-base.I'm not off-base, you're the retard that's trying to force it to conform to an abitrary system of classification reliant on discounting >70% of what happens on screen as not being part of the work.>Your assertion that twilight and trixie are supposed to be viewed purely as villainsI never said this lmaoI know that you mean something completely fucking different by this than what I actually said, because you believe in these retarded absolute framings so you think calling them a villain means you have to discount 90% of their character but no, what I mean by that is just that she's evil. Not that you have to pretend that anything which could have good connotations doesn't exist.>Twilight is currently going through a villainous phase, because most of her bad actions during the episode are "real" and meant to inform her arc, and not simply gag violence.Twilight's violence is and always has been real. Watch unicorn con.>If she was meant to be a "psychotic arrogant murderer" from the get go, what would be the meaning of her current arc?She literally fucking explains it in the show? And it's part of a long running arc about how she's finding a family in Trixie that covers the deepseated needs that she has either intrinsically or from Celestia's grooming and the effects of being independent from the central authority that has run her life to the point of physically holding her down in her bed to sleep while Twilight is eating out of the doggie bowl besides it.Twilight is just an ammoral murderer. She is and always has been. She's not being more evil. She's doing something for herself. It's just evil for Twilight's sake - patterned off of pre-relationship Trixie's petty criminal behavior - as opposed to the previous evil for Celestia's sake.>>43561401>Twilight wasn't raised to be cruel merciful [sic] killerDid you miss the part where she was literally killing a van of people that she loved in Career Day because Celestia told her to?>>43561049>people are talking about recent mares episodes>uses recent stallions to try to explain the mindset of the creatorWhy are you such a fuckwit? Like you can feel however you want about the two authors but they're not the same person and they're not the same work, one doesn't reflect on the other.
>>43561446Forgot picrel, the scene where Twilight literally has this conversation and explains her motivation to her wife
>>43561427You're probably going to get your wish. I wouldn't say he's a bad character, but his arc has definitely been more about learning to cede power to people he loves than about his serial killing, for the most part. But in the last several episodes they've been dropping hints that his dad is going to learn about the past and care package is going to have his relationship with his father seriously damaged by his hobby murders. They bring it up in bad influence, and now they're stuck in an alternate dimension with basically every single person who knows that care package is a murderer. They've also introduced Last Laugh who clearly has some kind of baggage with care package's dad, although we still don't know the exact nature of it. It seems like a recipe for good drama to me. The dad finding out what happened and not knowing how to handle it, care package yearning for acceptance, someone care package has never met suddenly appearing and being there for his father, fostering mistrust and jealousy. I'm really excited for the next big episode, honestly.
This autistic conversation reminds of the good ol days when FIM was still airing.
>>43561446>>43561449>Twilight's violence is and always has been real. Watch unicorn con.I agree that that scene in unicorn con is not a full gag, but I think it's more meant to show that twilight is full of herself for being an alicorn, rather than that she's evil in the way you say. Killing a random bg pony doesn't carry the same "weight" as a lot of evil acts in the show. Twilight was also a lot more mean in general pre-DoTS, but became significantly kinder as the show went on.>>43561449She may explain that she wants to do things for herself, and that is indeed a big part of her motivation, but try watching "Twilight Sparkle Gets Into A Fist Fight With A Pony In A Wheelchair After She Becomes God", the scene at the end when she's talking to Trixie.>I couldn't save sky wishes>What are you saying, of course you did>No I couldn't, not on my own. I tried talking to her at first, but nothing I said mattered to her. She tried to kill me, so I tried to kill her.>Sometimes it's fun to be bad, huh?>That's a terrible thing for a pony to say!>Maybe, but I used to be bad remember? and then you taught me how to be good. So if you ever wanted, I could teach you how to be bad.How do you watch this scene and come away thinking Tamers is framing these characters as villainous amoral psychopaths? Based on the rest of the scene after what I quoted, I could see coming to the conclusion that she's "only good because celestia wants her to be", but I don't think that really makes that much sense given that Celestia really IS an amoral psychopath and clearly wouldn't have cared whether Twilight killed Sky Wishes or not. Rather, I think twilight has certain standards that she holds herself to, trying to be a "good pony", and that involves both following Celestia's orders AND being empathetic. So she decides to go against both of those things, and become the amoral pony you're claiming that she's always been, despite this and other textual evidence that goes against that. As another example, let's look at the end of "Trixie meets Twilight's Parents and Immediately Regrets It" when Trixie is talking to flawless before their musical number.>You saved him, even after what he did, you actually saved him>Well, I couldn't exactly let him die, I mean imagine how twilight would feel, she might have never spoken to us again.>You're truly something. You know, I'm proud of you flawless>Huh, what for?>You made the right call, you did what I probably wouldn't have, saving him.>I just did what I could to end it without casualties>Yes, that's the empathy you inherited from twilight, something which I lack.Why would the show repeatedly say, in serious scenes almost completely devoid of comedic moments, that Twilight has empathy and tries to be a good pony, if we're supposed to view her the way you do? It simply doesn't make sense.
>>43561588That's kind of the point?Bitch will just do horrific things to peopleBut also is capable of empathy. She just isn't always using it.She is a bad person, literally a broken person with a brain disease which has been weaponized in favor of her dysfunction, and still she's a person and is best understood as a person. I'll say it direct, so that you can hear how silly it is. "Bad people don't have empathy."seems false
>>43561357 yes.
>>43561602Then why does Trixie directly contrast Twilight's empathy with her own lack of it? Trixie is an originally bad pony that has learned to do good things, while Twilight is a good pony that sometimes does bad things, usually for comedic effect. And Twilight clearly has moral standards which she feels the need to hold herself to. These include questionable things like obeying Princess Celestia's authority, but they also involve showing kindness and not murdering her enemies, as can be seen in the serious parts of various episodes like Shattered Harmony, Death of Trixie, and the episode I mentioned in my last post.
>>43561230Even if they are all OC's, they are still pony OC'sIt's as MLP as fallout equestria
>>43561745Ignore him, he's either schizo or trolling
Which pony is the most likely to have memorized several different sea shanties and is waiting for everypony to go on a boating trip just so they can bust them out?
>>43561894canonically pinkie pie
>>43561120She's so agile!
>>43561120I'd like to eat her boogers.
>>43561617Remind me again, what are all of trixie's sins, other than killing her father?
>>43562274That's an easy question. What about the least appealing incest pairing?
>>43562288Applebottom parents
>>43562274
>>43562274shining x velvet
>>43562274Trevor's Mom & Dad because they're burning in Hell.
>>43562423what got her so excited?did someone crack a homophobic joke?
>>43562264Honestly? Not much. She hasn't done a ton of evil stuff in the show, she just repeatedly states that she used to be bad, probably because she was a minor villain in FiM. I suppose the worst thing she did (other than murder her father) was plan to take advantage of Twilight and then run off after marrying her.She is generally portrayed as frequently selfish/arrogant though, which is part of her personality, though she also shows a lot of kindness at times, especially to her family.
>>43562556they dropped the charges
>>43562274Lunestia!
I always like how nakedly manipulative Starlight is. Especially when she was a filly it feels like some cues were taken from golly, though that might just be convergent design because there aren't many ways to write these kinds of characters when they're young if you do the jokes that he did>>43562606She killed some random guy she was robbing and then tried to shoot rarity way back when she was cute and funny
>>43562264Being a sex worker on the streets drives a pony to do lots of sins to survive
>>43562709Ah, yesvile, terrible, evil ponieslike assassin dogs of the stateand like whores
>>43562288Pinkie Pie's parents I guess.
>>43562288Twilight x Shining Armor.So unappealing Tamers hasn't even suggested it
Bothered to watch the dandy episode. It's... good? No. Different. It's kind of different. It's good on it's own merits, and seems like it does the whole petty social conflict thing better than most dandy's world episodes. But, it isn't really the same kind of funny as most of the other good dandy episodes. It's odd. It does the one central idea about dandy's world better than any other, but that's a cover for the growing horror elements which take over fully halfway through. And then the conflict just ends.It feels like an incomplete episode somehow, which may be intended.Thematically, the point of the episode is the introduction of something like "the gay desire to be weak", which sprout and now dandy seem to have, so it's good that these relationships actually mean something now. Hard to put my reaction into words.
>>43563362Dandy fell off
>>43563478He shouldn't have been riding Astro's fat balls like a pony, then, with that fat head of his.
>>43563362Stopped watching dandy for awhile, stallion tamers just isnt good. Also I think stallion tamers is a borderline pedophile making that shit with dandys world. SU and MLP are "for kids" but they're old as hell so the fans of them are all 30+ now. Dandys world is "for kids" and currently relevant so dandys world fans are mostly kids, its weird as fuck to make borderline fetish cartoons for series actively being watched by kids who are looking up stuff about it on youtube.
>>43563487>its weird as fuck to make borderline fetish cartoons for series actively being watched by kidsThat's the exact same dumb shit people were demonizing bronies for in the 2010s, where do you think you are?
>>43560413It's okay, Derpy and Bulk will just make another one.
>>43563362Stallion tamers is a bit more.... "competent"?.... "skilled"?..... "traditional"?... when it comes to writing the scripts. Not sure what word to use.It's not necessarily better, but a stallion/DW episode will almost always have a clear begining middle and end. A mare episode will often completely forget about a B plot half way through, then loredump for 5 minutes, then have a random new character do an anime fight in the sky.I'm saying this as someone who enjoys the mare episodes much more than stallions/DW. The fact that a DW episode follows writing rules and conventions (chekovs gun for example) makes them more boring. These conventions do "work", there's a reason TV script writers have developed them over the past 100 years. It makes plots that are followable and coherent. Cause and Effect.When a skitzo mare episode actually ties everything up in the end (a rare treat) it's fucking KINOIn the past dozen or so mare episodes, I do think mare tamers has also become more "skilled" at writing, leading to more real plotlines and character arcs. But somehow he also still keeps the autist magic. He *can* write standard scripts, but he often chooses not to.This can all be seen in the art, too. DW is incredibly consistent with the drawings. Compare this to Trixie or Bulk biceps, who I'm not even sure what they "really" look like, since they shift around so often.
>>43563362I thought some of the gags were great, but I agree that the ending felt really abrupt. Overall an enjoyable episode.
>>43563738>Compare this to Trixie or Bulk biceps, who I'm not even sure what they "really" look like, since they shift around so often.>TrixieShe looks like a peanut because of how fat her ass is
>>43563819>when he sees my cock
>>43564061He's going to turn your weewee into a balloon animal.
>>43564088Not enough material unfortunately :)
>>43564092What if he rolls it up like a noodle and makes it longer but thinner?
>>43564107The I hope me makes a good balloon snake.
*Then
hello tamers threadit has been a whilethe last time I watched tamers was at my failed tamers on CRT watchparty at Neighcon...but those watchparties led to my mare fair TV cart, which turned out amarezing.anyway!my van has been sitting all summer, with the exhaust hanging wrong.my living room has been too cluttered to use the 36" tube....and I'm in too deep to sit here at my computer and "watch tamers normally".so, van is fix. the last DVD that I burnt was #20, containing the twilight werewolf episode and the celestia's feelings episode, so... I have come to steal images from this thread for my various DVD menus, post images I guess, I don't care, you don't care, nobody asked, on luna, no cap, 67, red sus
oh this is going to take forever
>>43564185Glad you're alive
cannot believe I am just now realizing I can download a bunch of these at once now if only I could crank a bunch of them through ffmpeg at once >>43564203yis
>>43559226youre going on a dvd
>>43564185I was just thinking about you, good to have you back!
>>43564229yippie! also here's one of my favorite photos from mare fair, corp stealing my tv because people were playing tamers too loudly on it.I never /planned/ to do the TV cart thing, the cart was supposed to be for plushies, but it sucked at holding plushies, and the venue was being anal about room parties, so I ended up stickin' a TV on it.Funny thing is, the tamers VHS tapes weren't even mine... I'm tamers DVD guy, so while I've been putting a lot of pony on tape I'm leaving him handle the tamers-on-tape.Also in which fucking episode does somepony shoot up a fucking walmart? If I'm remembering it right, that's why my poor tellyvision had to be confiscated.
>>43564236Tamers is also the reason I ended up nixing the boombox after day 1 and just leaving people with the tv speaker, I heard tales from some of the vendors about thunderous and unholy farts....
>>43564236>Also in which fucking episode does somepony shoot up a fucking walmart?Lasso El Paso, Episode Date 08/03/2019.
>>43564278genuinely do not remember an episode by that nameis it not one of the pony ones?also fantastic, the mp4 batch file doesn't work, I love doing it all the hard way
>>43564281
>>43564281it was the FILENAMECD burning software ran so that DVD burning software could shit itself
>decide to burn one disc while the other renders>but video #2 is the last thing to get renderedthanks ffmpeg
>>43564406The fudge?
I can feel myself aging
it is done. DVD #21, 22, and 23. but taco bell closed at 1 AM............
>>43564185>post images I guessWhat kind of images do you want? Screenshots of episodes? Gifs? Fan art?
>>43564835it is too late, the discs already existthough for future refrence, the only images the program will accept are jpegs, I can crank a png into a jpg through ifranview but idk what to do with gifsand it sucks because I'd love animated chapter menus lol
>>43564406>winx dvd author>it's actually mlp dvd
what's really funny about my van is that there's four subwoofers, two or three amps, I think some boxed 6x9s, and a bunch of other audio equipment just... sitting in it. haven't had time to hook it all up yet.I can only imagine the force of a full volume tamers fart sound effect once I have all those subs wired up...
Pocky~
>>43564934I'm really happy that Pocky is starting to pick on as a possible name.
it begins
oh it's a stallion episode no wonder i have no clue whats going on
>>43565139kekYeah, you sure said it
jej
>>43565171Parcel was so shit lol
Parcel Core to me is synonymous with The Death of the Stallion Timeline but it's not exactly his fault per se, PC was a symptom; a symptom of tamers at the time feeling this need to rip-off- ah, sorry, i meant be inspired by trash like Hazbin Hotel. Who even ever liked that crap, idk, but I digress; stallion timeline is effectively kill because tamers got creatively bankrupt and didn't have the cast of lovable characters that mare tamers had, even when he was trying to be inspired- ah, sorry, literally rip off mare tamers' work. at least we got bugcore out of it.
>>43565265i love the way this person draws poniesanyway I only watched quarantine, so I ain't even finished with disc 1 yet, tonight I'll go park somewhere weird and keep going
>>43565265hazbin hotel didn't invent tumblr sexymen. superjail started in 2008, 11 years before hazbin. hazbin is inspired by gay ass ao3 fictions that were inspired by the first wave of tumblr sexymen, and so is everything tamers makes.calling parcel core a hazbin hotel influence feels like saying mari and glimmer's comically toxic relationship is inspired by any specific piece of media that came out in the past decade. no it wasn't and you're uneducated to think so.
Usually anything with troon colors grosses me out. Sky Wishes does not do that to me and I'm greatful. It amazes me how both tamers can take a bg pony and just a run a new story through them.
>>43565265Like the other anon said I don't think it's inspired by Hazbin, but Tamers probably likes it at least a bit since it's inspired by some of the same stuff that he is. He included a reference to it in an episode after all.>>43565411How are you letting trans people live so rent free in your head that you can't even stomach a basic color combo
>>43565411>is trans coloredD:<>but is an outright pedophile who's relationship caused the textbook negative result of pedophilia:]ok buddy whatever works
>>43565425Remember who is president and how that is still better than the alternative
>>43565265>>43565411>>43565425I want to believe it's concern trolling but I forget how many kids came to this website to get groomed by /pol/ for years and then visit the other boards to let everyone else know that in the most annoying way possible. The outcome is ultimately the same I suppose.
>>43565265>>43565334>>43565411>>43565417>>43565425>>43565427>>43565428Samefag
>>43565459i was calling him an idiot for not recognizing ao3 writing tropes in tamers works until the introduction of parcel core, why are you lumping me in with him?
>>43565459I'm only one of those, but maybe the other response to that guy was samefagI'm gonna take the bait anyway though cause I'm bored>>43565425>is an outright pedophile who's relationship caused the textbook negative result of pedophiliaWhat do you mean "caused the textbook negative result of pedophilia", they dated later on as adults until star catcher died and are doing so again now. I don't really think Sky Wishes got traumatized or anything.
>>43565507Alright save me the time because that's not quite how I remember that going.What episode?
>>43565540Twilight Sparkle Becomes a Werewolf starting at about 19:30
>>43565551 Ok, rewatched it. 1. Skywishes is the purple/pink pony, not the white/pink/blue pony. 2. I've checked multiple episodes with the white/pink/blue pony and I can't find her fucking name so her name will now be [STEVE] until corrected. 3. When skywishes and trixiebelle where in the orphanage, they were stated to be "adults" despite the whole scenario being designed specifically to look like they aren't. 4. In TS becomes Werewolf, we do not get any information on how much time has passed since the orphanage, or how long skywishes and [STEVE] were together. Only, skywishes says she valued the time that she spent with [STEVE], and then bikes off and gets hit by a car. 5. In "the salt zone", the following are direct quotes from [STEVE] >You're getting quite tall, you know that? It's starting to get difficult to chase you around. >My old age stopped me from being able to do all the things that you could, and by the time you grew up, I was already dead. You had no other friends, because I stole all your youth. So, [STEVE] says directly that she was an adult and skywishes was a youth at the time when [STEVE] died, and that skywishes failed to make normal relationships with other children specifically due to their bond. Skywishes goes on to immediately die due to her reckless grief, and then spends two separate undeaths refusing to make new bonds of any kind with anyone other than [STEVE]. Believing that the small and unexplained section in TS>WW is showing [STEVE] and skywishes as full and equal adults after a reasonably long relationship requires that you basically call [STEVE] in 'SaltZone' a filthy liar. As tamers material tends to have inconsistencies in the presentation, it is common that a character or event later will retroactively declare how an earlier event is meant to be interpreted going forward, and this looks like that.
Hot take: There is no strictly bad Tamers episode. All of them are good to some degree.
>>43565632White/Pink/Blue is Starcatcher, they say it when she's introduced in Tournament of Power. There's probably others but that's the one I immediately know of.
>>43565632I was talking about the white/pink/blue pony, her name is star catcher.Yes, they started dating when sky wishes was a kid, the idea that they're actually adult miniature ponies is likely a gag. But eventually she gets caught and separated from them (you can see this part in Trixie and Trixiebelle). Then at some point sky wishes leaves to when she's old enough to age out of the orphanage (this is explained at the end of tournament of power). Then, at some unknown point in the future, they reunited, and dated until Star Catcher died of chronic subdural hematoma, after which Sky Wishes dies in a traffic accident as she's grieving.This is all pretty consistent, it's only that one line later in salt zone that contradicts it, but perhaps by "your youth" she meant the years before she was separated from her. Or maybe they found some way to date secretly even with Star Catcher assigned to a different unit, who knows. Either way, Star Catcher is an adult in the WW flashback given that it's said she was old enough to have left the orphanage and she's riding a motorcycle around and visiting her girlfriend in the hospital. It's all a bit of a mess because Tamers contradicts himself several times (he also says in tournament of power that trixiebelle and star catcher destroy most of the world during their fight for instance, which is retconned), but I think it's fairly clear that they were dating from sky wishes childhood, up until she left the orphanage, and then later when she's an adult. And she never expresses any trauma over the relationship, and in fact repeatedly says how much she truly loves star catcher, so I don't really think your statement earlier is accurate. Well, the part where you say it caused the textbook negative result of pedophilia at least, you're correct that star catcher is a pedo.
>>43565642Except for WW3 which sucked.
>>43565642That's not a hot take, that's just an 80 IQ "doesn't matter if it's shit, I still had fun" take.
>>43565750what if it's the other end of the bellcurve and it's a 120 IQ "doesn't matter if it's shit, I still had fun" take, and you're the median iq wojak pony in the center
>>43565642That's not true, there are plenty of stinkers, with the worst being "Sonic Underground - The Year Without A Christmas...">>43565740That one was pretty bad by itself, but add years of build up and you've got a huge, stinky disappointment on your hands
>>43565768I will forever wonder why he delayed that shit for so long.
>>43565774laziness, i'd presume
>>43565752
the fuck
I ain't clicking any of that, but if they're prescribed medications to take care of an illness, then what's the problem?
Crazy fucking Sharty bitch
I checked the post on the archive and the person they are claiming OP is... doesn't even post about Tamers at all? What the fuck? Actual, literal schizo shit right here. Seeing patterns where there are none.
>>43565740World War 3 was literally my very first episode.Some tamers fan made a thread on /v/ advertising it and I decided to watch. There was nothing better at the time but that movie planted the seed of curiosity for tamers12345 that has revealed a decade's worth of artistic value and entertainment.
>>43565265While I understand how divisive people are towards mare's and stallion's timelines. I can't stop liking them both for their strengths rather than fixating on their shortcomings.Enough has been said about Mare's chaotic writing and how they decide to approach an episode and it's humor. Often divided on two sideplots that would hopefully merge or not. But what strikes me most is how free of ties it is. Everything it's an excuse for a setting and it doesn't fear from escaping writing conventions to just have fun with the idea. I do agree that more often than not this leads to confusion. Since it's an almost linear series with the approach of a sitcom. It retcons itself if needed to push things foward. Because what's most important is not to keep consistency but to tell stories with this characters that people love. As for Stallion's side. I've come to enjoy their over the top plots with life and death on stake disguised as seemingly simple romantic stories. It feels out of place sometimes coming from most of the Tamers™ experience because it comes up as truly genuine and at times especially heavy on the drama. There's a clear commentary that a lot of people seem to overlook or maybe discredit on purpose. I think this is because as it is you don't really expect from a Tamers video to be all high and moral (And be taken seriously) on certain topics given the crude way those subjects are addressed. But the attempt is noble. And I honestly never felt malice coming from it, not even at it's clumsiest moments. The most I can say is that I really wish for them to attempt something original in the future. The intent is there and it's mostly good. Great at times in fact. I just think there's a conflict of expectations. I can vouch for freedom of criticism but I also think there's a more personal appreciation for these things. Failing to recognize the good in something can also cloud your judgment. The biggest thing I can commend Stallion timeline is that it gives you actual hints for you to infer a plausible conclusion in a more organized way. And the animation truly kicks ass. But I digress. TLDR: So yeah I'll eat both cakes. But it cool it ya don't dig chocolate.
>>43566076>There's a clear commentary that a lot of people seem to overlook or maybe discredit on purpose.There's pandering garbage but stallion contains no real insight. There's the attempt at a plot, obviously, but just because someONE writes the same boilerplate Ao3 slopfic premise for the hundreth thousand time doesn't mean that what the author is trying to say is actually true or meaningfully explored.Meanwhile mare actually holds a mirror up to culture sometimes, usually because the best jokes contain a kernel of truth.
>>43566076Thank you! I've been basically saying this more or less the whole time.
>>43566112>Meanwhile mare actually holds a mirror up to culture sometimesWhen?
>>43566112I don't think you're discussing in good faith if you assume that every stallion episode has the "the same boilerplate Ao3 slopfic premise". Stallion tamers has proven himself every bit as capable of writing characters that reflect reality in interesting ways.
>>43566076=3 *phrrt*
>>43565689The line in "salt zone" doesn't seem to contradict it at all. >Yes, they started dating when sky wishes was a kid, the idea that they're actually adult miniature ponies is likely a gag. But eventually she gets caught and separated from them (you can see this part in Trixie and Trixiebelle). Then at some point sky wishes leaves to when she's old enough to age out of the orphanage We completely agree up until this point. >Then, at some unknown point in the future, they reunited, and dated until Star Catcher died of chronic subdural hematomaAnd technically, we agree on this. It's just that I think they dated for approximately no time at all, because that would be consistent both with this statment and also with what was said in salt zone.And using this framework where there are no contradictions left1. Pedo relationship at orphanage2. Skywishes ages a few years waiting3. Skywishes seeks out her groomer who she has been obsessed with this whole time4. Groomer dies and Skywishes immediately dies 5. Skywishes never moves on no matter how long passes, and becomes a lust monster followed by an emotionless robot, which is like living as sex pest and then being apathetic.And that IS the negative result of pedophilia, particularly when done by a parental figure. You become that child's everything, their startpoint and their goal and so they don't really need to go through the normal developmental steps. Trauma happens when the kid is having strange events which they don't understand forced onto their body, but a consensual pedophilic relationship still has negative results. The problem with pedophilia is more than just the likely rape.There's also the fact that a person attracted to children may not be attracted to those childeren when they grow up, and so the relationship may bes somewhat doomed long-term. Instead of that, starcatcher died, so we got that result without depicting that betrayal.
>>43566433I think that's an interesting interpretation, and thinking about it I actually agree that they probably didn't date for long as adults, but it doesn't strike me as what Tamers is going for. Sky Wishes is obsessed with Star Catcher because she truly loves her, not because she's going through grooming related trauma. It's meant to be a romantic tragedy, that when they finally reunite with skywishes as an adult and can be together, star catcher dies. It's a fairly normal romance plot for someone to stay forever attached to a dead loved one, look at future soarin in the yaoi timeline, I don't think you really need to explain it by saying she has an obsession specifically because of the grooming. Framing her being a vampire and then a robot as metaphorical to the negative results of grooming is interesting, but I don't really see that actually bearing out in the story. For one thing, she's already deadpan as a vampire, and doesn't really seem like a "lust monster" at all even if you could spin vampires that way in general. So the "becoming a sex pest" comparison doesn't really work. And I think her becoming a robot has more to do with her perception of a lack of "realness" since, as fractured says to make her kill herself, she's more like a replica of the original sky wishes, she doesn't have her soul.Meanwhile I think the less trauma-based angle to the story that I'm proposing is fairly evident based on that fact that, in the end, they do end up together; it's all mostly meant to be romantic, despite the issues with their relationship which are brought up by star catcher in salt zone. Look at their last scene where they agree to see the world together, sky wishes says "I ended up forgetting who I was, everything (star catcher) tried to teach me when I was small", framing things in a positive light as well. It's not supposed to be seen as fully bad or good, it's romantic because love shines through their problematic circumstances. Also just as a side note I don't think star catcher actually slept with sky wishes when she was a kid, I think their night together as adults was their "first time" though this isn't stated outright. Also, I realized while rewatching scenes to write this that sky wishes says "a few years later" she crashed her motorbike in the rain, so actually it probably wasn't because of grief that she crashed, it was just a standard type of traffic accident. Maybe she was living a normal life during that time?
>>43566538Vampires capture people. Vampires are money and class and disease and sex and demonic influence. Skywishes doesn't get much screentime, but in that screen time she attracts a group to her isolated mansion using her library, which was a pretty expensive structure in the past, and still technically is. She immediately infects trixie. She knows and explains how the spread of vampirism works, because she knows and spreads it occasionally. The first thing trixie does is use this power to smack skywishe's ass. In short, vampires compel, which means they are the influential tendencies of those with power, which means making a thrall is a magical version of grooming. (grooming means a lot of things) Vampires themselves are undead, and generally don't go around appreciating other people for any of the wholesome reasons.So no, we don't see skywishes leaning on and rubbing the sides of other ponies or biting her lips, but she absolutely wants a taste. And even if you don't buy any of that, she's still not doing well.>you're not like the orignal skywishesyou... you mean the child? You mean she's realized she's not like she was as a child? When she was desired by a living starcatcher?
>>43566560I don't know anon that still seems like a big reach to me. We'd need more in the story that goes along with that interpretation rather than just her being a vampire. Her feeding on Trixie was never portrayed as a super sexual thing, she was just hungry, she said she would have done it to any of them. And Trixie slapping her ass is because she's Trixie, you know she would have done that regardless of if she was a vampire or not. We also don't see Trixie becoming especially more horny than usual after being a vampire, for the record, or any of the vampires in monster school being especially sexual, which further goes against your points. We also don't see them compelling people or making thralls (Trixie is not a thrall, sky wishes has no power over her). All this vampire stuff is just things from other works that you're inserting into this one to cover up a lack of real textual evidence supporting the metaphor that you're seeing.I'm not sure what you're quoting at the end there, but star catcher definitely still cares for her at the end. Look at the scene in salt zone where she's running through the mansion to find her with romantic music playing. She knows she's an adult (and a 1000+ year old vampire robot at that) and she still clearly loves her, and desires her.
>>43566571>as fractured says to make her kill herself, she's more like a replica of the original sky wishes>fractured says she is a replica>'you're not like the original in some manner' -t fracturedThere, that
>>43566237>Stallion tamers has proven himself every bit as capable of writing characters that reflect reality in interesting ways.No he hasn't lolName 1>>43566560>vampires XNo they don't.>vampires are YNo they aren't.Monster high is not a metaphor for the evils of teenage homosexuality retard.
>>43566579Ok but that has nothing to do with her being a child or not, it's because she has no soul and is an undead monster (or, that's what fractured says at least). She was inarguably an adult when she died, given it happened several years after star catcher died, so the last point at which she was "herself" was not as a child.
>>43566589Nope, monster high is about racism.
>>43566606And racism is funny.
>no previewits so over
>>43566838giwtwm
Monster High was great. An episode with just oc's is what I wanted so I'm biased.
>>43566606I don't really remember much racism in monster high even though that's usually a low bar for those sorts of toy shows to reach for>>43566934Do you mean monster school?
>>43566948WhateverShiny is still getting raped by retards
Will we ever see them?
>>43566934Celestia attempting to kill everyone with her farts was really sexy.
>>43566948First thing that happens is celelstia is inconvenienced by a single individual werewolf ordering the last tropical something coffee at starbucks, at which point she immediately decides to gather every wearwolf, zombie, and vampire and enroll them to "teach them to be more normal, like conversion camps do with the gays." So, to be clear, she's concentrating them in a thing she calls "like a camp". It's a concentration camp. She then gasses them, to death, for the sin of one werewolf existing. That's her plan, at least. She also drops the N word for like no reason in the starbux scene.The mari backstory ends with her dad threatening to put her in a camp run by Dr phill. In scene 4:>bitch 1: girl, why are you hanging around a wereworlf>bitch 2: yeah, cross dating is weird. Werewolfs are like black people.>bitch 1: every clique hates every other clique. That's the whole monster ecosystem.So like... >girl, why are you hanging around with a black person>yeah, cross dating is weird>every skin tone based group hates every other skin toneI should think it's pretty clear, yeah?>Twilight: I am a deep purple, which makes me more targetable by racist assholes>Fractured: Then there's us: racial ambiguity babys, the ones no group wants to claimThe salt spear is created by sacrificing one of each kind of monster, and is possessed by celestia, who wants to kill every monster, and fractured, who wants to kill every monster. Meaning, having a salt spear in this episode is equivalent to having more hatred for everyone than you have love for the people you actually know of each group.Spike is bad at basket ball because he went to a majority white school. Spike says "cotton picker" and the story decides to actually take it seriously. Shining behaves as the whitest possible dad to a black child having problems being black. "I am now qualified to be the solver of racism.">Ember: Can you beleive how those ponies made themselves the most dominant species on the planet, just because they think they're better?>also ember: Those fugly bitches are going to get what's comming to them for dating outside of their own kind. The zombies are going to dump holy water on them, and I'm here to make sure it goes swimminly because I am racist, and I revil in other's undeserved misfortuneAnd the last thing I'll bother with, twilight's suggestion in her speech was that everyone should say their racist nonsense directly instead of being cowards about it or plotting. >oh but you're cherry pickingArt can have more than one topic. It has this one.
>>43566986When will we see THEM again?
>>43567026He's waiting for the next Good Kid album to release.
>>43567022That's not Monster High, anonYour assertion was about ALL VAMPIRES, ALWAYS in all media.
>>43567065What in the fuck are you talking aboutI didn't mention monster high once, or vampires only once. > and vampire and enroll them>Your assertion was about ALL VAMPIRES, ALWAYS in all media.Are you... are you saying celestia enrolled every vampire across all media in her monster school?
>>43567026God I can glaze Sweebs in Love forever. That fight scene was amazing, from the greyscale all the way to Gaybreaker's dangerous fireball farts. Love the way he draws fillies. So round and squishy
>>43567134It's definitely one of the best episodes. Really funny, good action, lots of great CQC moments. I hope Sweetie Belle's crush on Scootaloo doesn't get fully sidelined from now on after the flash forward in Trixie and Trixiebelle.
>>43567193By "flash forward" I of course mean Scootaloo's gay dream.
What if a cartoon said big farts
https://x.com/TheTamers12345/status/2107874996874096943
>>43567210>mares
>>43566589>Name 1Name one that hasn't! The Soarin and Braeburn arc is all about the cycle of violence, relapsing into bad habits for comfort, and how bigotry perpetuates itself. The apple split episodes start out as a queer power fantasy and take a sharp turn into examining abusive relationships, BDSM, trust, and the relationship between the social contract and someone so marginalized that they gain no benefit from following it. Arinos and friendship touch on codependency, creating an identity, and disability, Clean Sweep's story is about victimhood and healing from a horrible past. Even if they're not personally relatable to you, the stories are full of things to say about the world we live in.
>>43567210Now we just need to convince the anni jannies to play it during the stream
>>43567216He's going to get molested by Toola Roola... When was the last time Toola Roola and Starsong appeared on a Mare timeline episode?That Applejack costume is very similar to the one that Clean Sweep used in Bad Influence. That's odd, we've seen her wearing a scarecrow costume on Rarity and Pinkie Pie bake Halloween cookies before. >>43567223Give up lad. This board doesn't like Tamers stuff for the most part.
>>43567238I think Toola Roola is yaoi exclusive. I hope he runs into the flower trio again. That shit was hot.
>>43567210BASED we're backLook at this cute Fwaless <3
>>43567210>winonaNice to see the pets again>>43567219Okay that was a pretty good shitpost8/10
>>43567238Oh waitNow i understandI wonder if yaoi tamers wanted Arinos to get molested but compromised with his bro and allowed him to use Toola Roola and Starsong.
>>43567253>I wonder if yaoi tamers wanted Arinos to get molested but compromised with his bro and allowed him to use Toola Roola and Starsong.Why would he want that?
>>43567210First shining was raped, he will be next.
>>43567258Why would anyone want that?
>>43567258Because trying to understand tamers is like trying to understand the windIts hella smelly
What TTSs are these again?
>>43567238Well they said they might include it if it airs during the stream in the anni thread (which it will). Just need enough people watching to ask I think.
>>43567279there are a bunch of different ones
>>43567301Well, I'm looking for Trixie's specifically for now.
>>43567238>>43567244>>43567253Toola Roola and Starsong are in "Pinkie Pie and Rarity Bake Halloween Cookies", and the first episode they show up in was a mare episode too.
>>43567259>dressed as a piss fairyhe'll be lucky if starlight doesn't kill him on sight.
>>43567306I'm aware. Pinkie Pie and Rarity Bake Halloween Cookies is a neutral episode tho. So that's why I was wondering the costume choice.I suppose it's also because the first scene where Applejack's costume appears seems to be drawn by Stallion's.
>>43567315He is Trixie's boy-pet (not a sexual thing, he's like an animal to her) so Trixie will protect him
>>43567325I get the feel Trixie's gonna get mad that she's getting mogged by her apprentice that's wearing the same outfit.
>>43567325remind me, what was the first thing that happened after trixie changed his name to belle?
>>43567245Is Twilight supposed to be a fed or D.B. Cooper?
>>43567210
>>43567321I guess we don't know for sure but I don't really consider the M6 episodes to be neutral, since they have yuri stuff and mare exclusive characters have shown up in them once or twice. You're right that that one in particular seems more neutral than most though.
>>43567245>>43567384>Trixie is going as Flora for Halloweenbased
>>43567332Big ass ears
>>43567522
>>43567522>>43567525Trixiebelle really is just the cope Arinos... It's too bad stallion Tamers found Dandy. I miss the proper Arinos.
>>43567544Don't worry, he'll make his return some day, Stallion Tamers' clown fetish will not be contained
>>43567544I don't think they're comparable but yeh.
>>43567259>Trixiebelle stuffed a sock in his undies to make his micropenis look biggerThat's pretty pathetic desu, he should just rock out with his small cock out.
>>43567544belle is a lot more bullyable and less independent than arinos.belle looks good in girls' clothes others put him in against his will.arinos chooses to wear all those slutty outfits.they have different dynamics.
>>43564236>BaldingHoly chud...
>>43567612>Trixiebelle is rapebait>Arinos is the one doing the raping, but in a clownish way
>>43567583traps are cutest when they're hung but still shy and meek.
Trixie hated Gears of War: E-Day because instead of escaping from Twilight bossing her around she was immediately railroaded to another raging dyke to further abuse her and steal the spotlight. Seriously this game's story is ass and I'm glad I decided to boot up the original from 2006 instead of wasting $70+.
>>43567659I'm just not turned on by big-dicked traps, personally. Also according to Monster School he is half of the national average and according to everyone's reaction in the cafeteria he's a quite small fellow down there.
>>43567681Well they're horses so they should all be hung like horses, half the size of a horse is still huge.
>>43567682I think Tamers meant the American national average.
>>43567065Alright, so the only way I can make sense of your response is to say that you expect me to use monster high to justify an earlier claim about vampires even though monster high was originally brought up as a counter-argument about the interpretation of homosexual symbols within oppressed fictional minorities, and therefore against the interpretation of basically any metaphor in fiction, and therefore against interpreting vampires as having any symbolic significance at all.And if that's what you want, first, that's a category error. If I say roses are yellow, that's correct, because at least two roses have been yellow. Red roses do not prove that roses are red instead of yellow, because roses can be red while other roses are also yellow. So, vampires are disease. If you find me a healthy vampire doctor and present it to me as a counter argument, that simply means you failed at English.Second, ok lets do it. That's basically my fetish.>monster school, volume 1 episode one, "jaundice brothers"> money class disease sex demonic influence.The very first thing we see is the main characters listening to a disease-themed boy-band which they all like. It's not a bubonic plague but you can go ahead and find and quote the part where I said that vampires all are copies of the bubonic plague, cause that didn't happen. You can say that all the monsters are also worshiping disease here, and they are. The end.First individual action of the vampire girl is to kick the werewolf slightly off screen in order to annoy her into more quickly letting the vampire record her plea to the radio station in the hopes that they win a concert by the jaundice brothers for their school. All she does is say the band rules. She's excitable, like a minor pinkie or silverstream, and seems really really dumb. Later, after the radio breaks, she asks how they are going to know if they won a free concert or not, because she's dumb and says the obvious.>diseasecovered>sexthey are all sex, underage sex, very evil>class and moneyThey go to a school where kids spend time listening to the radio between classes. They have their own video recording devices. A local radio station sent a boy band into their school. This is a good neighborhood, it seems, by monster standards. It's not aristocracy, but it ain't poor.>demonic influenceThey are literally dead bodies piloted by spirits who worship a disease band in a show that gives teenagers doll-width limbs and tits and shows them to little girls and their families. It's demonic.
>>43567712>ok but none of that applies specifically to vampiresShame that, the vampire didn't actually do basically anything, because the episode is a 4 minute short. If I say bombs are explosive, but then we see a scene with a bomb that doesn't explode, it would still be right to say that bomb was explosive, because that's the definition of bomb. So, all we can say is that this vampire is consistent with the traits of class, money, disease, sex, and demonic influence, just like a bomb that doesn't explode is still consistent with the trait of explosiveness.What she does do is compel the wolf girl and then a boy band to do her bidding, and that will have to do.
>>43567712Do you not understand that he was just correcting the anons calling "Monster School" by Tamers "Monster High" instead, which is a totally different thing? He didn't actually mean to bring up some sort of discussion about Monster High.
>>43567725If that were the case, he would not have responded to a post which talked only about monster school and told said post that it was not monster high. >person says monster high>pink flag says it's monster school>person talks about monster school>pink flag says that's not monster highWELL NOW IT'S MONSTER HIGH
>>43567712>And if that's what you want, first, that's a category error. If I say roses are yellow, that's correct, because at least two roses have been yellow. Red roses do not prove that roses are red instead of yellow, because roses can be red while other roses are also yellow.But your claim is not "roses are yellow" it's "roses are yellow, therefore this rose is yellow" i.e. "ALL roses are yellow".>that simply means you failed at English.No anon. It means you went to a bullshit school where they pat you on the back for forcing in symbolism from one work into another, completely unrelated work in order to make sweeping statements (that are otherwise unsubstantiated) about a social situation in real life. The curtains being blue means something in the book that they're in, but the curtains being blue in that book doesn't influence the interpretation of any other blue curtains.In order to claim sky wishes is a sex disease vampire in order to explain your schizophrenic pedophilia rant (that doesn't even line up with the show's chronology or refer to characterization at all) you have to assert that simply being a vampire means that she conforms to your narrow definition of vampire/carries those associations simply for being a 'vampire'. Even showing that every other vampire in fiction did (they don't btw) wouldn't actually prove this, since again, that association doesn't actually exist in the text. It's entirely in your mind.
>>43567752Words mean things, man. If the text says the water is sold because it is cold under normal pressure, then it is ice. It does not matter if ice was specifically given the descriptions and associations of cold and solid and water, because ice is those things. If a piece of ice is created under extremely high pressure at 150 degrees F, then that ice is hot, and ice is still cold. It's still right to say ice is cold. It's right to say ice is cold within the fictional universe of this story even if the only ice we see in the story is hot because of these strange and specific conditions. If almost every single vampire sucks blood, then when a new story is created where the vampire instead sucks the color red, that vampire is still given the symbolic association of predation and the assosiated fear and power and evil, and the story then has to go out of its way to remove or alter those symbolic assosiations. Women give birth, even if no woman gives birth in a work of fiction. Air is still full of oxygen which people need to breath, until a specific air is defined as not having oxygen or the people in it are defined as not breathing like we do or being like us. That vampire, until it is specifically declared that they don't drink blood, drinks blood and is scary as a result, and the audience will interpret it as such.And if you reject that basic concept, then you must logically reject all associations which have not been explicitly enforced, and so no word means anything because you have brought no outside knowledge into your interpretation of the words on the page.So either words mean things, and patterns make associations which make symbols, or they don't.
>>43567777This is a lot of dancing around the point that your claims about the episode were all factually untrue
>>43567777>you must accept anything that's true in any piece of fiction must be true in all works of fiction or else you don't believe in languagenah
>>43567794Well, if you're going to refuse to engage with the important information, then you can have the petty shit.What did twilight sparkle want to discover in the library of skywishes?
>>43567777Just because associations exist doesn't mean they should be automatically be assumed to be utilized by the work. Vampires have a ton of different ways they can be used, and a ton of potential associations, which depends entirely on the actual work they're in. Sometimes they're a symbol of pure evil, sometimes they're a symbol of nobility, sometimes they're a symbol of drug addiction, or sex, or the cost of immortality. And sometimes they're just an aesthetic choice, included because they are beautiful, or cool, or to give characters a dark atmosphere. Obviously a text COULD have a character be a vampire to express these commonly understood themes, but just because a character is a vampire, doesn't mean they express all of them. To see what associations with vampires the work is using, you have to actually examine the text and try to see HOW it's using those themes, otherwise you're just pontificating more or less randomly, you might as well start talking about what the colors of the characters' clothes symbolize.
>>43567804>you might as well start talking about what the colors of the characters' clothes symbolizeshining is whiteCadence is pinkchrysalis is blackall of these are meaningful>sometimes it's drug addictionWhere does this one come from? I don't recall literally any vampires involving drug addiction.Is it blade? I never watched blade.
Is there a new episode this Friday?
>>43567826No, what makes you think so?
>>43567826No, Tamers just announced on twitter that he is retiring. We're just kinda coping right now by pretending there is a new episode.
>>43567847Yeah but before they retire they promised to make a last episode featuring all the characters. Summer Camp style.
>>43567826https://x.com/TheTamers12345/status/2107874996874096943
>>43567668Being an Xbox fan is suffering.
>>43568008Being an anything that has technology fan is suffering. PC, Playstation, Xbox, Nintendo, Android, iPhone, Cars, Handhelds, etc.Only people having a good time are the braindead AIjeets.
>>43567814Those are meaningful because they are also demonstrated in the show. For example, Cadence being pink symbolizes love, which is borne out in the text through her literally being the alicorn of love, as well as all her other actions.What you're doing is more like saying that because applejack is orange, she must secretly love oranges more than apples.And vampirism is pretty easily comparable to drug addiction, why don't you try thinking about it yourself for a bit? I don't see why you need to have seen a work treating it that way to understand the parallels.
>>43568030>What you're doing is more like saying that because applejack is orange, she must secretly love oranges more than apples.Reminds me of>small like an apple
it's time to finish dvd 21and maybe get into 22 or even 23 idk
luna have MERCY
LUUUNNAA HAAAVE MEEERRCCYYYY
by the wayone of the mice I've been trying to get rid of is in the ceiling above meright above the screensanyone ever subject a rodent to tamers before?
>>43568502You have nice in your truck?
>>43568516yes they ate my playstation controller I am quite unhappy about itthe neighbor keeps feeding stray cats and the cats are chasing mice into people's houses/cars it's very annoyingI have poison all over this thing too
episode was fun, but I'm eepy and the battery is getting concerningly low so time to make it hometomorrow, stallion episode, oh boy...
ah shit i killed the batterynow I'm stuck here
>>43568609dunkin donuts to the rescue
>>43568657my fucking image
>>43568679Clamp them to your nipples to charge your energy meter to run home just in case you run out of gas.
>>43568679it fucking workedhalf an hour on dunkin donuts power was the trick
>>43568030Applejack is an apple who lies. Her family is yellow/red, red, and green, because those are apples. The association between orange and oranges is being used. However, there's also the Crimson Crisp, which even has little white freckles. And, again, this is the same category error. Crows are black. Black is not the same as crows. Black is associated with crows. If I tell you that black is dark and crows and spiders and death and rain, that's correct, because I'm telling you about the concept of black and not about all specific objects which are black. In a story, if I describe a thing as being black, like a black cloak or black figure, a lot of the audience will instantly get a negative association. That is mildly dumb, but that is how it works. >think about itthink about it only gets you to "the symbol can be used that way" not to "the symbol contains this meaning by way of repeated use and cultural awareness creating a strong association and therefore information which is communicated to the audience when this symbol is invoked"
>>43568747I can't help but think you're know you're wrong and are just arguing for sport at this point.Symbolism does not require repeated use and cultural awareness in order to be symbolism, in fact it very often doesn't have that, if the symbolism is demonstrated by the text. Obviously many things have cultural associations, no one is arguing against that, but determining which of those associations the work is using requires you to actually look at the work, and there's nothing supporting your idea that vampirism is a stand-in for grooming-related trauma.You're also contradicting yourself, because your insane reach on Applejack's "reason" for being orange does not rely on "repeated use and cultural awareness" whatsoever. It's a perfect example of what I'm talking about, you're just making up your own symbolism in your head and finding some way to force it onto the work. Perhaps the designers had SOME reason to make Applejack orange past just it being aesthetically fitting for a farming pony and distinct from the rest of the mane six, but she was literally designed to be the Element of Honesty, and so your idea that her being orange is meant to display that she's an "apple who lies" is absurd. And yes I know she lies once to Pinkie in "Party of One" but I hardly think that that supports your point, none of the other ponies even bring it up for being out of character, it's just an example of inconsistent writing. You are relying on symbolism through common cultural associations one moment and then symbolism through your own personal very specific headcanon the other.The idea that Sky Wishes being a vampire means she must be a traumatized sex pest is similarly ridiculous. There are a number of associations with vampires you could arbitrarily choose, and you're acting like this one very specific one makes more sense than the others, despite there being little to no supporting evidence for it in the text as I've pointed out previously, just because you want to bend the story to fit with your headcanon.
>>43569019The repeated use, is that people call oranges oranges, because they are the orange fruit. This is the immediate assumption when looking upon the horse who is orange and fruit related, and thinking of an orange fruit. There are deeper symbolic meanings to the color orange and even to oranges, but that's the simple one, and that's the one which is specifically related to fruits, and specifically to apples.The coloration of the other apples, specifically chosen, reveals an authorial intent. For BM, and for AB, and for GS, all of them were given specific coloration related to a well known fruit. Attention was given to the coats of these ponies. So, when AJ is orange, that fact stands out as specifically not fitting the trend of the rest of her family, and that makes it look like a choice, and intentionally looking like a choice is authorial permission to read deeper into something.In actuality, I kind of think that the cereal containing green and orange loops "applejacks" is being referenced, but, if so, there's not much meaningful which I can extract from that, other than the fact that AJ is an apple who is false, and that's the same conclusion with the orange. If taken seriously, that would imply she's wholly fabricated, not an apple at all, and maybe there's something about her backstory which explains that in an earlier draft. Maybe she was originally from the orange family, and that got changed. The orange family itself is associated with wealth, which oranges are classically. Maybe the clash between the mass production of applejacks and the old cultural value of oranges is reflected in the fact that AJ, though orange, doesn't belong there.>she must be a traumatized sex pest is similarly ridiculous.Good thing it's not a thing which was said.Don't think I said the word trauma once, or stated that she attempted to fuck anyone at all. No, I've stated that she is a vampire, and that said transformation is symbolic of some of the expected negative results of grooming. And I've also stated, that even if you don't buy that, she's still not doing well.Like, being a robot, right? Because she's clinically depressed and being clinically depressed is a lot like being a robot? Like her being a robot is symbolic of her lack of emotionality. That seems simple, easy, like there is no way you would disagree. Well, she visits rage upon enemies and followers alike and her last act is to reject friendship in favor of that rage and against both reason and sentiment. But, she's still a robot, and that still was caused directly by apathetic depression deep enough to cause a suicide attempt.Like in this case, after the story makes her a robot, her behavior is extremely emotionally driven, but the concept of being a robot still is being unemotional and logical even specifically in her case those associations apply, intentionally, and paint our interpretation of her in a way that requires extreme contradiction to start to overwrite them.
>>43568555Damn man that really sucks
Does buying 4chan gold let you go past the character limit now? I'm not even against long posts having serious discussions but like holy shit people concision please
>>43569123I don't think I need to respond to the first part because there's no way anyone reading it is going to take it seriously, it practically reads like a parody of the type of barely-tethered pseudo-intellectual "media analysis" that people like to make fun of.As for Sky Wishes "not doing well", uh yeah, she's a vampire who lost the love of her life and everyone she ever knew due to resurrecting centuries after her death, and then later kills herself and then rebuilt as a robot. Obviously she's not doing well. The issue is that there are way more appropriate themes to tie this successive transformation to which are actually supported by things that happen in the videos, rather than solely by associations that you arbitrarily are reading into it because they happen to fit the thing you already decided is true.
>>43569144No, his post is just below the 3k word limit at 2995 words. Yes I counted.
It's 2026 people, you gotta make your point with a 200 character limit in mind or you're just rambling. no one wants to read a 2000 word essay about the lore implications of Flawless farting.
>>43569525unf imagine her stinky hairy muff
>>43569525Imagine how bad not only her ponut stinks, but how bad the fur around her ponut stinks, and how bad her dock stinks, and how bad her tail stinks. Since she is constantly farting.
>>43569525Considering all the bloat she's got in that gut I'll be studying those lore implications with my nose pretty soon.
>>43569525flawless belly~
>>43569548Unf, based.
>>43569525Go back to twitter if that's what you want
>>43569583I'm just stating the reality of online communication in the modern era.>>43569555nice trips
>>43567869Hey thanks. >MareSweet. I have the usual snacks prepared but i should get extra on case. Also what flavor of Poweraid should i drink this time? Should it be yellow for Trixiebelle? And i hope this doesn't overlap with Knights of Guinevere episode 2.
>>43569525>no one wants to read a 2000 word essayI do it/read them because it's fun. Even the people that disagree with stuff have something some interesting insight to share. Otherwise we'd be mindlessly consuming and at that point yeah let's all go to Xitter man.If you don't wish to engage with it the most discomfort will be having to scroll down a bit further and that's it. Not a big deal. As long as it's on topic of course. >I'm just stating the reality of online communication in the modern era.That it sucks ass? True.
>>43559110looks like she's gyrating her hips to me
>>43569646That's what i do sometimes when i have to go pee.
>>43569646>looks like she's gyrating her hips to methe moves she's making on me after i fix her
>>43569525This is one of the best threads on the board because people actually have real discussions instead of just cynically moping, schizo ranting about /pol/shit, and talking about how much they hate literally everything other than G4 Seasons 1 and 2. That or just posting images and necrobumping with one sentence replies.
>>43559110I thought she was doing a cute dance, that's supposed to be a walk cycle?
>>43569688The boogy is kind of like a rorschach test
The Maud writing in flawless farts open a portal was unironically pretty good. I wonder if he could do something with sunburst that isn't just the obvious jokes. Maybe something with his mother.>>43569661Mari is byond unfixableYou'd legitimately be better off trying to reform Starlight>>43569670That's just because it's a thread where people are actually watching a/the show.
I want to put my face in Flawless big round belly
>>43569698>The Maud writing in flawless farts open a portal was unironically pretty good. I wonder if he could do something with sunburst that isn't just the obvious jokes. Maybe something with his mother.Boulder and his girlfriend WILL return
>>43569525I'm not against 2000 word essays, I'm against 2000 word essays that could have been 200 character posts. Sometimes this website compels people to think their point is more legitimate the more long words they use to outline it and it not only wastes the reader's time but also makes me have to roll the scroll wheel several more times than I should have to in order to reach the next cute pony image.
>>43569525pregnant?
>>43569901She's got a bun cooking in that oven
Luv this fwalessSimple as
How do I get rid of this "Thread new posts" shit?
>>43569934press alt+f4
>>43569964okay thank y
parcel core sucks blood and show stopper sucks the fun out of any social gathering. what does flawless suck?
>>43570021Arinos' big fat balloon
>>43570021Human dick
>>43570036who in their right mind would risk this?
>>43570036Arinos could probably grew another balloon but what are you going to do if Flawless bites your dick off?
>>43570042I'd just ask Trixie for a quick healing spell? She does it all the time in episodes.
>>43570040Gotta take some risks to make it to the big leagues
>>43570143>"If you don't put your foot on the gas you'll never get some ass"- A gay car
>>43570178I just know Tamers and his bro were giggling like school boys who just pooped in their desk after they wrote that line.
>>43570179Some episodes make me wonder what they really think of Mindy.
>>43570021The jelly out of donuts because she's a chubster.
>>43570040I've always wondered which fetish Tamers will appeal to next after this scene.
>>43568609first retard to get stranded by tamers.just incredible.
>>43570251All of them except mine.
>>43570532yeah, threatens me with a good time.
>>43570675An Atomic Rainbomb is probably stronger than Glimmy's ass.
>>43570675This was the exact moment the mare and stallions timelines split. Glimmy survived in the mare timeline while Doctor Whooves regenerated in the stallion timeline.
>>43570703
>>43570703I'd love to see some more Doctor Whooves, I'll even send Tamers my Doctor Who Series 1-4 DVD set for him to borrow so he can get ideas from the proper source material. I'd love to see Sombra and The Master fight over The Doctor like a piece of meat between two hyenas.
>>43570713It's kinda funny to see the favoritism from each timeline. In Mare's timeline Derpy mentions to Bulk that her husband hits her and that's why she doesn't talk about him often. But on Stallion's timeline Derpy is racist, homophobic and a bad wife (At least that's what Dr Hooves says about her).However, it's not entirely contradictory since most of the characters are unreliable narrators anyway. They can just be saying shit.
>>43570708I think the one where they go to the hometown buffet is mare tamers timeline because it has Scootabelle stuff, which doesn't show up at all in stallion tamers, otherwise good chart.>>43570724I mean, Derpy is pretty terrible in mares too sometimes, like in Coco Pommel Has Her Heart Stolen and Trixie Gets Fired.
>>43570713https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3tJ7LGGpoZU&t=2s
New Tamers episode plot revealed
>>43571035No spoilers?
>>43570708Wouldn't Hotpot Party be where it splits?
>>43571058Hotpot party is the first significant contradiction. It's when Twilight rejects Trixie.It's stallion timeline exclusive
>>43570817>I think the one where they go to the hometown buffet is mare tamers timeline because it has Scootabelle stuffThematically a maybe. Stylewise it definitely has Stallion's hand on it given to how Twilight and Rainbow Dash look. Added the "Damn I hate to see her come but I sure do love to see her go" gag taken from RD must perform a Sonic Rainboom (Stallion episode). The filly goo scene was drawn by Mare's 100% tho. I consider it neutral regardless of this because it doesn't contradict any timeline in a significant way. The Twilight Sparkle and friends get a hotel room episode is in a weird spot if we only take character involvement as the definitive indicator of which timeline an episode belongs. Pinkie Pie's sisters appear outside of the farm for the first time with the rest of the gang and not in a flashback like in Pinkie Pie's Lemonade stand. Contradicting Abyss when they're supposed to be held captive in the rockfarm. All without mentioning the Flawless farts movie with Maud and Soarin and Braeburn's wedding when they all appear for some reason. It contradicts Mare's timeline yet it's considered more mare focused. But because nothing significant happens on it we can just label it as neutral. Im sure as hell this was just a retcon but when it comes to categorize stuff I just take all the hints I can get. Since the Dandy's series started neutral episodes don't really happen anymore but because Mare's also makes SOL episodes that don't focus on the current arcs just for fun it's easier to label them as part of the mare's timeline by style alone and the random cameos from characters exclusive to it.The Scootabelle stuff seems to be consistent in both timelines (Or at least it doesn't contradict anything shown in Stallion's yet) but Mare's has had most of the focus on it. Because for some reason the eyeswap remains consistent on both timelines. That's why Pinkie Pie's Sleepover is hard to put on a definitive side. Both the eyeswap and Pinkiedash are recurring things on both timelines. >>43571058Image is meant to represent the two timelines theory.
>>43571156I feel like the Pie family stuff in Abyss is just a retcon/gag for the sake of the episode, so I'd personally also consider the hotel episode to be closer to mares. I'd label both that and the buffet ones as mares rather than both as neutral personally, but I can see where you're coming from.I think the scootabelle stuff in hometown buffet is relatively important for mares though because they have a decent amount of focus on them in later episodes like sweetie belle in love and trixie and trixiebelle. Do the CMC actually do anything in stallion timeline episodes? I don't even remember them showing up at all past DoTL but I could have just forgotten because I don't really rewatch the stallion episodes much.
>>43571174>I'd label both that and the buffet ones as mares rather than both as neutral personally, but I can see where you're coming from.The retcon is just a hint but I consider a bunch of other things too. The style of the drawings and if there's some repeated gags from previous episodes. I'd agree that some neutral episodes have something that carries on, even if little. Toola Roola and Starsong come to Ponyville is a mostly neutral episode with the sole exception of having a very easy to miss Flawless cameo right after DoTS. Yet Starsong and Toola Roola have appeared more on Stallion's timeline. But it seems that today we're getting them on a Mare's timeline episode. The main criteria I have about it at the moment is that for an episode to be labeled as one or the other it has to involve something substantial from a current arc that's exclusive to a timeline. Contradictions aside because inconsistencies are plenty. The G5 episode is on this spot too, where you can tell both worked on it but since it has that Twixie recap scene with Sunny and Twilight it leans more into the Mare's side because it follows their continuity more closely. In terms of categorization there's a gradient that keeps flip flopping that can adjust depending what characters get more focus on each timeline. That's inevitable. But what's truly essential to each side is their core story arcs. So that's what I've been mostly looking for. Not the only thing but it's the most important telltale sign.>I think the scootabelle stuff in hometown buffet is relatively important for maresI'd say Scoot's relationship with her parents and RD from Hometown Buffet is more relevant to Mare's timeline I agree. But Scootabelle is there as a nod. Not compared to how important it was on Sweetie Belle in love or the Trixiebelle movie at least. Her dynamic with her aunts and RB carried on during S&B wedding. As it is there's not much focus on the mane 6 on Stallion's timeline since Alicorn of Death (Even less the CMC). But Hometown Buffet doesn't really contradict anything from Stallions timeline either. It can all be happening in the background as far as we know. Something that you can't say about Trixie's shenanigans on Stallions timeline or anything Soarin to even be acknowledged on Mare's timeline. On a sidenote. If anyone wonders why I pay close attention to these. I've been mostly trying to identify the involvement from both sides on each episode. It bugs me that people would demerit any side without considering "hey maybe they both worked together on something I enjoy" so we can just end this tribalistic war about which timeline is better. Literally two sides of the same buttcheeks. Doesn't matter which side ya wanna slap first.
>>43571155That's not a contradiction. Someone can reject somebody but accept them later. >>43571156>Image is meant to represent the two timelines theory.I know.
>no premiereits fucking over....................
Can everypony knock it off with the doom posting over no premiere?It's annoying.
>>43571730It's ahhhh jokes anon, we got jokes here, you ever hear a joke?
Tamers got that new super diarrhea, his brother got the samers. It's a shame they live in a one bathroom house or this could have been prevented.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KpkmQHjrDhY
>>43572044>slutty costume FracturedU N F
>>43571791That's quite the theory, Mr. Kirk.
>>43571653You spoke too soon
>>43571156>taken from RD must perform a Sonic Rainboom (Stallion episode)Sonic Rainboom was from when they were both working on every episode, but it's primarily mares
>>43572044>a Flewless about her first time experiencing a holidayaww~ <3BTW Friendly reminder Flawless' Birthday is Oct. 11 aka two days from now
>>43572058Why's she wearing a crotch bra?
>>43572880>doesn't know about crotch titsBut I think it's actually a garter belt
>>43571760Lemme tell you a joke that'll be a real showstopper.
>>43571760He better stop giving me that mean look or that sign is going right up his butt.
>>43573209
>>43572044>Flawless and Fractured order matching costumes for Halloween>The costumes arrive but one of them is missing half it's body>Flawless and Fractured wrestle to see which one gets the good one>Fractured loses as always>She gets the bad one but steals Twilight's lingerie so she can mog Flawless with sex appeal insteadBonus points if Fractured gets all cocky about being able to rock that shit better because Flawless is fat.
>>43573225Alright that's it boy, get that pooper ready!
I'm doing a little halloween project with flawless. Do you guys think a quiz with roulette wheel/rewards about the show would be better or something akin to a small rhythm heaven or warioware type game? I got about 14 days to do it so it wont be anything too big.
GET HYPE :DDDDDDDDD
I don't get it, where's the episode?
Nevermind.
RATE THE EPISODE!!
>>43574930This is a 10/10 episode btw Tamers fucking did it. This is Bowling Episode tier
>"Sexy baby">Dandy pony in the background>other assorted roblox referencesDid our dads reconcile?
>Twilight was just Bartleby>Trixie was Sonic, even doing the "My Lover" bit>Whole episdoe was your typical "Bartleby can't fit in the real world bacuase he is rich"We get it, Tamers, you want to go back to SU, we understand
>halloween shit all over again
>>43574930It was pretty gud, funny and lots of sexy moments.
>>43574930flawless/10
>>43574968They reconcile for the TrixieBelle timeline
>>43574930Alright episode. Nothing special but it didn't have to be. Surprisingly short and oddly enough the characters talked as if they were in Sonic Underground with Twilight and Trixie feeling very Bartleby and Sonic respectively. Trixiebelle was the best part of the episode (Glad i got that yellow Gatorade for him.) and Changeling Drone #13420's cameo was highly appreciated. I can't think of anything wrong with the episode or anything great but it still have me some good laughs and comfy moments so i give it a 7/10, thoughts may be different in the future. >>43574968Well Tularoula and Starsong appeared and they are usually stallion characters so the dimensional merge may be happening soon. >>43574984Yeah, while watching the episode i wondered why he didn't make it a Sonic Underground episode. >>43575048Trixiebelle living with Starcatcher is honestly cute.
Havent tuned in since the dragonball crossover, what happened in the latest one?
>>43575030Adorable!
>>43575082Simple halloween shenanigans. Although if you watched it after skipping everything after the crossover then you'd be completely lost.
>>43574930He packed so many characters into this episode that I’m surprised Coco wasn't featured - unless she was hidden in the background somewhere. Yes, the episode was very much SU-coded, even down to Bartleby's damn limo. It felt a bit disjointed in parts, as if too much happened for no reason in too short a time, but overall, it was a nice SoL episode. 4/5. Also, why did Trixie drop her dog costume? She looked cute, and it was a nice juxtaposition for Rarity's cat costume.
>Flawless can remember the lives of her mom's as it was a memory of her ownVery interesting.
>>43575098>Also, why did Trixie drop her dog costume?I assume you're talking about her Gir hoodie?. Well i guess there's two reasons. 1. It would be redundant with Flawless also in a dog costume. 2. It creates that one joke with her and Trixiebelle having the same costume. Also what is Fractured even supposed to be.
>>43575115>Gir hoodieNah, I meant this. I was under the impression at the time that they both would wear matching costumes - both dressed as dogs - but she appeared like this for one brief scene only.
I thought starcatcher was deadDo I need to rewatch salt zone or something
>>43575148Oh man i missed that because i was too focused on how cute Flawless is in that costume.
>>43575227Her and Sky Wishes have a whole scene talking to each other after waking up in the hospital (trixiebelle is there too). So yeah probably you need to rewatch the episode.
>>43575227She was in the hospital at the end of that episode.
>>43574930It reminded me of a couple SU episodes mixed together. The classic Halloween Special with some bits from the Easter episode for the flasbacks. Not exactly the same but there's so many references. What Rainbow said at the end reminded me of the Battle For The Playstation 5 episode. RD: "Not like I think Trixie and Twilight are a cute couple or anything" Robotnik:"Not like I think Sonic and Bartleby are a cute couple". >ShiningArmorxTrixibelleThat's why Tamers is the king of crackships. Goddang.
>>43575327At first i thought she was supposed to be Coraline.
>>43575346You know what? I can see it.
>>43574930Firing on all cylinders. Very little if any fat. Easy 9.5/10, might go up on a rewatch. Character writing has become super consistent as well.
>>43575327Cutie!
>>43575327
>>43575361What is the lore on Celestia and Sunset Shimmer?I hopped off the horse train after season 4 and I never watched Equestria Girls. What is the official connection and why does Celestia favor Sunset Shimmer?
>>43575443Sunset was Celestia's prized student and pupil before Twilight but then Sunset turned evil so Celestia banished her to the human world where she can cause no harm.
>only two pieces of fanart on twitter after a Halloween special with cute costumesDamn, people really didn't like this one
>>435749307.5/10I just ain't seeing how it's a 10/10 but maybe it'll hit me on a rewatch. Still a classic Tamers episode though, no complaints, glad people are enjoying it. Reminds me of the SoL episodes before TDoTS but moreso the weaker ones than the strong ones.
>>43575465Is that unironically the lore??
>>43575529Yeah, that's the canon lore. The main conflict in the first Equestria girls movie is that Sunset Shimmer figures out how to escape back into the pony world and steals Twilight's element of harmony and brings it into the human world, polluting it with magic which she intends to be the sole wielder of. Twilight has to go undercover as a human and get the crown before Sunset is able to extract its power and permanently close the portal to Equestria, leaving her as the most powerful magical force in the human world so she can rule it as a tyrant demon queen.
>>43575443Sunset is Celestia's previous student. She was more explictly being groomed for the throne and was ambitious. What her most exact lore is is up in the air because much of it was in comics and other alt media and many parts don't have a hard-canon statement on them, but the actual statement from the horses mouth is>Princess Celestia: Sunset Shimmer. A former student of mine. She began her studies with me not long before Twilight. But when she did not get what she wanted as quickly as she liked, she turned cruel and dishonest. I tried to help her, but she eventually decided to abandon her studies and pursue her own path. One that has sadly led to her stealing your crownHer actual personality (pre-reformation) is unironically basically the same as Tamers Celestia. I guess she has a bit more of a sense of fairness and competition than this Celestia but that's mostly out of the (accurate) assessment that she would win. Whereas Twilight gets anxious or scared when something goes wrong and retreats into herself as a neurotic wreck, Sunset just gets angry.>>43575529No.In the comics Celestia fires her and bars her from the castle and then she goes through the portal of her own volition after studying magic behind Celestia's back that Celestia was refusing to teach her.In the actual show Celestia just says that she decided to abandon her studies and pursue her own path. In every continuity, Sunset went through the portal of her own volition (possibly against Celestia's wishes, explictly so in the comics) and in the actual show it is explictly stated that the reason Celestia keeps the portal there is to be ready to let Sunset back in i.e. she's waiting for her to come back and be reconciled. She's not banished.
>>43575676inb4 >comics, canon
>>43575575>Twilight has to go undercover as a human and get the crown before Sunset is able to extract its power and permanently close the portal to Equestria, leaving her as the most powerful magical force in the human world so she can rule it as a tyrant demon queen.???This is explicitly not what happens. There's a brief moment where she fronts like that's her plan in order to get the crown but her plan was to invade Equestria.
>>43575680Comics are not canon, correct.
Everything is canon
>>43575724Canon this dick in your ass
>>43575687Damn, I guess I botched it lol. I was remembering the part at the end where she threatened to smash the portal to get twilight to hand the crown over.
>>43575788How does it feel to be outwitted by a woman that is a horse and a nohooves and middle aged and a teenager?
>>43575809Sounds like she deserved to win
Good episode
Good Kid
>>43575327I thought she was that Luce girl the catholic church made to get their elbow in the loli market.
>>43575327Wife.
>>43574930Using fart-wind to wave a cat's hair in the breeze may be the only time in this whole series where an actual joke was made using a far, other than just farts existing and being bad. Why the fuck is starcatcher alive? Is her backstory supposed to be the same? Is she still the orphanage mare? Is she his mom instead? Is he not mad anymore because she retroactively never took his bitch? Is she just here so that we can have someone to blame for the cross-dressing mixup? Seems like it would be just as funny if Trixiebell did that to himself by being dumb, but sure. This revival seems much worse than bringing back trixie's near-irrelevant mom specifically to make fun of who she is. It's still pleasant in practice, and short. Idk 8/10
>>43575410nice pooper
>>43576390It would've been so sexy if Tamers had Rarity's fart end up smelling so bad it killed her cat haha
>>43576811I don't like fantasizing about domestic pets dying.
>>43576811Are the pets both female or?
>>43576236Me too, but the Morton's costume was admittedly very clever.
>>43575809Fuck her (mare) and turn her into a housewife and mother.
Surprise Sunset cameo
>>43577262Sunset Shimmer and Flawless Sparklemoon would fart together BIG STYLE!
>>43576390>Why the fuck is starcatcher alive?Do the people itt watch tamers at 2x speed on their second monitor or something, why is everyone forgetting the extended scene where star catcher and sky wishes talk in the hospital near the end of salt zone?
>>43578074I'm convinced there are people here who are comatose when a fart sound isn't coming out of the speakers
https://desuarchive.org/mlp/thread/42321912/#q42324528Flashback to when i wonned bigly
Honestly ,Tamers should just cancel the Stallion series at this point.It's taking too long to release new episodes, and it is only wasting resources that could be used in the other shows
>>43578797>bitches about stallion episodes>we're getting a stallion episode every 3 months>still finds reasons to bitch about it
Taco Belle being assaulted was the highlight of the episode. #13420 calling Flawless her cousin was also cute. >>43576247
In 2026, The MLP series with the best rate of episodes is tamers maresIn 2026, The MLP series with the second highest rate of episodes is tamers stallions
>>43578074I legitimately thought you might be making it up for fun and had to go back and check. Sounded ridiculous. Sure enough, they both lived, for some reason. Now the can... snuggle? Do whatever people in normal relationships with a negligible age difference do.
>>43578959Sucks that Tamers is the only one keeping MLP content alive. I miss when the content community was flourishing
>>43579113And yet, /mlp/ would rather have their fuffy pony abuse and diaper pony threads before acknowledging tamers12345 as legit MLP fan content. This place really does hate literally everything that isn't g4 seasons 1 and 2
>>43578797Stallions are up next aren't they? Its not too late for tamers to save their show with some much needed kino. Both Dandy and Stallion are kind of duds now but at least stallions are still ponies
>>43577508Sunset has zero onscreen farts AFAIK.There's one panel where she has a poopy butthole in the background but that's about it. Interestingly she doesn't have an altform when Twilight does when they're fracturing FlawlessMares is set after EqG so it's reformed Sunset anyway
>>43579183That should change. He should animate her farting in tight skinny jeans lol.
>>43579183Maybe she's just fart-shy.
>>43579147At least this is the only board left on 4chan, and maybe the internet as a whole, where it feels like the good old days. I mean, what board even uses green anon anymore let alone make fanfictions, anthologies, have dedicated pony thread, or their own special banner on sadpanda. Till this day, I'm glad MLP:FiM and /mlp/ still exist
Yaoi tamers is for people 25 and underYuri is for the 30+ age group
>>43574930
>>43578959>>43579113>>43579147>>43579239Aw man i can't help but agree with all of you here. For example both the latest Tamers episode and the new Knights of Guinevere episode premiered at the exact same time and day, yet despite KoG being more popular and talked about much more than Tamers i have gotten far more actual discussion from the Tamers thread while the KoG threads only want to goon post and now they're trying to insert rape into the talk, and that's the thing, all of these big fanbase's don't want to discuss anything anymore, all they want to do is talk without thinking.The fart fetish stuff no longer bothers me because compared to everywhere else you guys are a bunch of sweethearts. This is why i still stay with Tamers and these threads, because it feels like what fanbases felt like years ago, for feeling like a true community and friends. I thank you guys for that.
>>43576136https://youtu.be/UV738U9rZVQ?si=Xi8dd5xNtFZimyic
>>43579547I'm not familiar with Good Kid but the fact they let people use their songs free of copyright bullshit is based as fuck. And the songs are a banger as well.
>>43579239Any good recs?
>>43579547They're the reason why Sweebs in Love is so good. He synced up the scenes with the music >>43579569They're pretty good. Their music reminds me of being a dumbass in high school.
>no one will draw TrixieBelle in a Master Chief costume
Haya, Cousin
>>43579897Her future is unironically secured because Trixie and Flawless are super autistic about family
>>43579569>>43579661Thanks to Tamers Dance Class by Good Kid is in my top three most favorite songs ever. Alongside What've I Gotta Do by MOOD MOOD: https://youtu.be/Uoq7PCOSJQw?si=DsQceHd9ohWGmxgwAnd Let's Leave In The Morning by Sexy Pigeon: https://youtu.be/Sw-mKpstaAc?si=0N2tjtpKbhqkDR1S
>>43579897>>43579933I wonder if Tamers will ever introduce Flurry Heart.
>>43575327she is perfect
>>43579897Imagine sniffing her ass while she's out cold at the family sleepover.
>>43579183I can’t recall Sunset telling a single joke. She’s the worst character in the series.
>>43580060She's the straight mareIt's a more traditional comedy dynamic
>>43578959Hasbro should just give up and let Tamers have the IP for an Adult Swim show or something.
>>43580060Her existence is joke
>>43580060At least in Shattered Harmony, tamers characterizes her as just being a cold bitch, not very likable. She does tell one joke tho, that Twilight needs to get a dick in her pronto or she'll be a loser forever
>>43580060What you mean? What about the Glock joke?
>>43580066>Ponies can feel lust
Shiny's genes are so strong that #13420 doesn'y have that onion smell
This scene was so cute. Trixie really earned a big W here, she's just casually being a #1 mom.
>>43579875
I wish i was cute so i could be molested by mare onee-san>>43581134Amazing
>>4358113410/10.You keep doing good. Can i make a request please?
>>43581134First Trixiebelle art you've done? Good shit.
>>43581674Not the first. I think somebody commisioned me to draw him a while ago. It should be on the archive. Here some unposted doodles. I'm not particularly interested on his design sadly.>>43581464I have a couple requests piled up. So that's no for now.
>>43581134holy shit, golden. you never cease to impress.
>>43581786Well he is the cope Arinos after all, you might as well just draw Arinos if you're gonna draw Trixiebelle.
>>43581794There's more to it than just the design. I just don't get behind the 1000 year old jailbait thrope. But to each their own. He's funny at least.
>>43581845Ah, I see. As far as the trio goes, he's the funniest one and the only one I like.
>>43581134He's swimming in that shit like Adam Cole.
>>43581859I can agree with that. Starcatcher can be likeable too. Having characters that aren't complete assholes makes for great chances for some good contrast comedy gags. I dunno if anyone cares about Skywishes tho.
>>43581905If Skywishes is the one that became an android for some reason then yeah I don't give a single fuck.
>>43581921The ending of Salt Zone made me think she's going to keep butting heads with Twilight. What if she is the one who brings down her candy empire?That'll be crazy...
>>43581945What if we're made to think it's her but it's actually a false trail and the real mastermind behind the collapse of Twilight's Candy Empire is none other than Twist.
>>43582026I believe everything is possible at this point. Except for the timeline merge.
>>43581859>>43581905Trixiebelle is goodStar Catcher is alright in small dosesSky Wishes sucks, she's always been the weak point of the triangle
>Upgrade from THE mogged to background character>Everything she does Flawless could have done the sameWhat happened?
>>43583190Fractured is always pushing Flawless to misbehave. That's a bad habit.
suggest editions
>>43583223Wrong costume and size edition
>>43583223Being a good friend edition
>>43583223Too old for trick-or-treating? edition
>>43583230missing the bulge
>>43583223Hasan Piker'd edition
>>43583264Ok can you stop making fun of me and my penis? Ok. Thanks "idiot". Yeah, I don't care why you thank me said jn the way you did about my bulge. Bulge I'm what you don't like saying about when you talked on my penis. "Dumass" if I told you one time I told you one more that my penis is perfectly adequate as it is.Ok? GROW. UP.
>>43583223Amber Alert edition
>>43583223Waiting for M&Ms edition
>>43583223Not waiting for M&Ms edition
>>43583223Did you eat your brother or What number were you? Edition
>>43583223Do the pose edition >>43575327
>>43581134>>43581879lmao
>>43581845I feel like the light subversion on that trope with Trixiebelle being male is juuuust barely enough of a twist on the concept to keep it from being too much of an issue.
>>43583301i'm kinda hoping tamers drew that because belle will be wearing that ridiculous costume in the christmas episode.
>>43583230I use my edition vote to oppose this suggestion
>>43559875Just checking and yep, this is still sexy
>>43584892>>43584892>>43584892new bread>>43584892>>43584892>>43584892
>>43583230I would have used this one but the jannies are def gonna nuke it for anthro.
