Am I schizo or does anybody else think Gen Z can't enjoy music from past generations without co-opting it? I see it all the time with 90s/2000s songs blowing up on Tiktok. Something disingenuous about the way they enjoy music, both in personal experience and online. What artists are you claiming from your own gen?
There will always be dumb young people, trend-riders, posers, and the like that flock around what's suddenly popular. Your friends or even you may have been one of them once. The internet and social media sure as hell make it easier, stronger, and faster, though.Do you have examples of them co-opting stuff? I don't watch much YT shorts or any Tiktok.
>>127570491ive watched them in the past and i don't even know what they're talking about
>>127570491I think it’s more obvious with fashion. Millennials didnt rehash the previous decades fashion this hard like Gen Z has. Gen Z has their 90s kids and their 2000s kitsche glorifying kids
>>127570550Millennials did ape some 70s-80s fashions like 3/4 baseball tees or black leather jackets and skinny jeans but zoomers caught the short end of the stick because 90s fashions make you look retarded like juncos an shit
>>127570419What choice do they have? Millennials' soulless works left nothing to build on. Every generation before that could expand on what was around when they were kids and gen Z got fucking Shakira lmao.
>>127570419>Gen Z can't enjoy music from past generations without co-opting itwtf does this even mean? god you people are fucking pathetic. day in day out whining about generations younger than you because you can't handle the passage of time on your own body.
>>127572510And stomp clap hey, I forgot about that. When you create something like that you have to accept that an attempt on the bloodline of music has been made, and efforts to erase that shit and go further back should actually be celebrated.
>>127572524Meant to reply to >>127572508
>>127572508>Who else are we supposed to copy since we have no ideas?You also copy millennials by the way little zoomie
>>127570419The trouble is zoomers don’t have any good artists for themselves, every single one fucking sucks and they still have to add samples and progressions from decades ago with a monotone half rap over it.
>>127570419Yes. Normal people don't sit around worrying about what people younger than them are doing. This generational warring is some of the dumbest shit you fags talk about on here.
>>127570419It's cool to enjoy anything older. That's what everyone used to do. People always listened to a little of old and new. Then suddenly, there's all of these morons calling everyone over 30 "boomer" and only listen to popslop or hiphop that came out yesterday. I'm not sure they're even zoomers or just streetshitters who already hated everything. It never made sense to me that zoomers would hate 100% of music in the West except that in their generation. Nobody ever did that before.
>>127572590Case in point here: Zheani Naked. >>127571077That is so similar to Crystal Castles with drum and bass that the guy would be able to file suit against them if he doesn’t molest them first
>>127570419there was always a lifestyle element to music stanning, they're just forced to do it with the past because the current era is too dead
>>127570419In the case of tiktok specifically absolutely but if you talk to zoomers who haven't been psyoped by the chinks you meet ones who aren't like that.The metric is: if their favorite shit is mainstream from the late 90s or 2000s they're soulless cattle who just like whatever social media told them to but if it's anything before or after they're at least somewhat real people.
>>127572508>Millennials' soulless works left nothing to build onParamore? Chvrches?
>>127572896>The metric is: if their favorite shit is mainstream from the late 90s or 2000s they're soulless cattle whothat isn't to say you can't like individual songs or albums from late 90s-2000s but if it's your main list of stuff you could be an NPC
>>127573028you had to be there i guess. a lot of us will probably never understand why Dave Marsh eviscerated a Connie Francis best-of collection in the RSM Record Guide, because he was there and old enough to remember her being on the radio and TV constantly. familiarity breeds contempt and it's easy to hate something you were there for and had to interact with its fans on a regular basis. zoomer may as yet not get for example why we regarded emos as non-human.
>>127573102I've only regretted shitting on emos since. At least it was rock and mostly organic. Kids had their own scenes still. But not just rock. All kinds of EDM scenes too still being inventive in their respect genres.Now it's nothing but actual Disney shit trying to larp as the height of culture. The cheesiest of cheese emo is better than this.
>>127573156respective*
>>127573156all that 2000s stuff was manufactured Disney shit too to sell 13 year olds spiked bracelets and mascara
>>127573156This is such a stupid mentality.Just because things have gotten worse doesn't suddenly mean trash from the past actually had merit. Yeah emo is better than Disneyslop. That's an expectation, not a credential.
>>127573197There was a clear difference between Backstreet Boys vs some highschool cliques of kids with emo hair and posting on myspace. And Disney wasn't funding every little underage friendly concert across the country.At worst, the big venues was shit like Vans Warped Tour..which wasn't bad at all. It's sad that's all much pretty much gone now.It was a bad move to shit on them. Besides all that, rock was always for kids anyways. But the whole "indie" rock thing pushed by critics was a 20 and 30 something thing and they kind of got everyone board to shit on kids. "These dickless trustfunders...this is real rock. Not that." Plot Twist: In the end, they themselves killed rock with that shit, and ultimately pushed poptimism telling everyone that in fact Backstreet Boys and Christina Aguilera was cool all along.
>>127573252>Vans Warped Tour..which wasn't bad at all.When it was for Gen X punk bands maybe.
>>127573252>ChatGPT post
>>127570550In the 90s the 70s were popular. Nothin new under the sun
>>127573367AI isn't smart enough to deduce the connection between Indie trustfunders and the Backstreet Boys.
I mean nobody ever doubted that Linkin Park, Pink, and Avril Lavigne were manufactured in a boardroom in Los Angeles and were never in the slightest bit part of any organic scene.
>>127573399linkin park is legit if you listen to their demos and track the storydon gilmore was the key to their early success and joe hahns artistic contributions are bery underrated
>>127573399Is that emo? Not at all what I had in mind.Maybe I don't even know what emo is. I thought Fallout Boy was probably the biggest one. Unless you count MCR. And then adjacent stuff like AFI.If anyone thinks AFI is worse than now - i.e. the fucking Music Apocalypse - then I don't know what to say. That's some dedication. I'm over hating on this shit.
>>127572747damn that is biting cc pretty hard. alice should glass her with a bottle of jack.
>>127572508You're so painfully retarded and have shit taste. Amazing millennials artists such as Joanna Newsom and Julia Holter are soulless, evidently, to you. Meanwhile, Gen Z has nothing comparable. Black Midi? Sabrina Carpenter? Lmao. Trash generation with no artistic vision and integrity. You're all soulless husks awaiting the meat grinder.
>>127574085>Amazing millennials artists such as Joanna Newsom and Julia Holter94 here, stop making us look bad you fucking tranny
>>127574100>'94You're bothering on being zoomer. No wonder you have shit taste.
>>127574139liking the gay shit you like reeks of zoomer identity desperation and critical insecurity
>>127573252It's hard for me to make declaratory statements one way or another about music back then.Looking back, I have to accept that everyone was giving it up for air plays. Everyone from the backstreet boys to puffy was working out their sphincter out for that deal.Even the models we thought were cool in the Abercrombie and Fitch catelogs. We thought they looked forlorn because they were being stoic and cool. Turns out they probably got diddled before the shoot and they were looking forward to hard drugs to forget the experience.That said, I like the kids music more than the 90s. If you like music from the 1990s, how can you know you didn't like it due to a marketing campaign? The Gen Z's built their own culture by controlling their music, business, and stage presence. And if they gave their sphincters a work out, it is far more likely it was done by choice.
>>127574241nice try but no
>>127570419zoomers are just posers. all of their "taste" is spoonfed to them on tiktok. there's not a single zoomer who likes an original band from before the 90s.
>>127573377Examples? Aside from That 70s Show and Soundgarden.
>>127570419I'm not answering this until you define co-opting and explain why it's bad.
>>127574241>Gen Z's built their own culture by controlling their music, business, and stage presenceNah music was at it's most independent when bands could grow a following organically with myspace. the zoomer era is awash in industry plants and nepobabies, and worse, the zoomers don't even care.
These threads are so boring, how are they usually three of them in the catalog? I don’t see the appeal in bitching about gen z
>>127574821Honestly, I don't even see how anything can be organic. You realize that Hank Williams legacy has Hank 3 and Hank 4 on the circuit right now?How is it that we all know Taylor Swift, but most people don't know that Hank 4 performs and is good?The music scene was pushed by teens who wanted to dance as a form of courtship early in the 20th century. Records weren't as common so to go see a show was a thing.By the 1960's most record companies were probably a front for govt backed drug distribution.By the 1980's and into the 1990's it likely opened up a new market to board kids as front for pedos to prey on children.I'm not sure what happened in the 2000's because I wasn't a kid anymore and I started living my own life.
>>127574085As annoying as younger zoomers can be, millennials really are just turning into boomers after years of bitching about how boomers screwed them over. Honestly pretty pathetic and continuing to set a bad example for already-despondent zoomers. That being said I agree black midi is pretentious dogshit
>>127575284You know, even the boomers were raised by a generation dumb enough to call communist allies.Then the "greatest generation" (ho ho ho) shipped their own kids off to fight in Korea and Vietnam. They treated them like cannon fodder. It was the first time any country anywhere abided by international agreements on combat with hostile states to HAMSTRING THEIR OWN KIDS ON THE BATTLEFIELD.The boomers are f-ed up alright. Because they were raised retarded animals.
>>127574085>>127575284It's always funny to see the /mu/tard mind struggle to come up with gen Z musicians and always default to black midi of all things (that is if they can get their mind off the 3 pop sluts they know).What a mediocre if not bad band, and Greep is even worse solo. BCNR has more good songs atleast. Not saying they're amazing but I like Chaos Space Marine, Haldern, The Place Where he Inserted the Blade, etc.
>>127575773Not that anon but I'm a zoomer and I can't name any other decent fucking musicians apart from Black Midi
>>127575813yeah hes trying to say millenials lose because they cant name names but why should they know obscure shit? doesnt that prove the point?
>>127575773It's because zoomers make music that's far too experimental and external to tired rock cliches for millenials to understand
>>127575832>they dont understand things theyve never heard
>>127575284It doesn't help if we are constantly firing shots on social media. They aren't getting mad over nothing.>>127572656The people who listen to old music normally aren't pulling that shit on social media but not enough of us are forming bands. None of those bands are doing anything original. Apart from a couple of obscure screamo bands I can't really give you shit.
>>127575832HexD and that bullshit is easy to get it just uses shitty sources.
>>127575846Every time I try to educate them they reject it, or reduce the forest to the trees. >>127575880You're posturing, just because you say things doesn't make it trueIronically cuck house zoomas do this more than anyone else
>>127570419Yup. Internet is of course to blame for narrowing music down to the most popular stuff.
Meds!
>>127570419For me? It's looking up comments on a youtube video from some nu-metal song from like 1999 and getting mad at all the 27 year old zoomers that are all sucking each other's dicks about how this was their favorite song off some bullshit video game circa 2005 when they were 9 years old.
>>127576478this
>>127576478real
>>127570491I know im late but this is pretty damn right.the internets definitely made it worse since subcultures are so tied to whatever corporations want as well as the rest of the global collective, but damn their sure are a lot of ex-hippie whores who live perfectly traditional lives, or 2000's mall goths who still have their tattoos but listen to Tswizle while shopping for their three sons at Whole Foods
>>127576478That's as pure as it gets
>>127575813They aren't decent. BCNR is decent, and it's hard to hear about black midi without them being mentioned I the same breath even though they're not even remotely alike, but they both call themselves "post punk." Lol
>>127570550>>127570419>>127572476The big difference is millennials and every prior generation would call out posers. If you wore a band shirt to look cool without even liking the band you'd be considered very lame. That isn't true anymore. Gen Z embraces being a poser.
>>127572508Millennials strong core influence and legacy is internet humor/meme structure and zooms adopted and swallowed it fully.
>>127577689YEAH CUZ JARED DINES AN ASSHOLE!!!
>>127570550>>127572476I'm a millennial and like it when zoomers wear JNCOs. The first time I saw that in the wild I was like holy shit we're SO back. Not sure about everything else though.>>127576478https://youtu.be/Xl5TkirC8zo
>>127577689>Gen Z embraces being a poser.the fact that gen x raised them blows my mind on a daily basis>The first time I saw that in the wild I was like holy shit we're SO back. i'll admit i kinda felt this a couple of years ago when i saw a high school kid wearing a D.A.R.E. ironically which when i was in high school was already pretty played out
>>127576747I dont get this point, boomers have plenty of ex hippie whores and there was no internet
>>127575813SOPHIE
>>127570419What I found was kids didn’t know what they were listening too because it was all playlists. I mean why would you care about who made it when you’ve got all music on your phone. They don’t respect it so the tiktokers put it on their video without a care. It’s like how the tech industry has stolen music and art - to have studio Ghibli AI art available is a crime, and I hope they pay for it
>>127570550What's even more annoying is they act like they invented it by as you said, co-opting
>>127574404This is my assessment as well. It's like they're incapable of liking anything that isn't cosigned on tiktok. Even pitchfork-worship wasn't this concentrated. ALL of their identity seems to be tied to that stupid app and frankly, it's very annoying to me who has to pay premium and see bands I've liked for years im shitty big venues because of this trend-driven bullshit. Not to mention zoomer filth are the absolute worst at shows.
Damn... Millennials sure are a whiny bunch...
>>127582033it's true and I am borderline millennial, recently I went to see a band popular with gen z, it was quite eye opening to see how mosh pits have all these weird performative dance moves now though. I suspect this is what OP is talking about. it's probably just that culture is homogenous and spreads so quickly via socials these days that's all.
>>127582376True
>>127570419Junior Senior - Move Your Feethttps://youtu.be/SPlQpGeTbIE?si=F1ntwTM3ScqG8YV5
>>127582376nice Reddit copypaste
>>127574085>You're all soulless husks awaiting the meat grinder.Are you religious? Then every human has a soul, are you not? Then no human has a soul. This statement is nonsensical babble
>>127574085Zoomer musichttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWlAgksUQyohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_cYJ5Dy_FrIhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LjoFJ0fbqZshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sEbZYE4CE_Uhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0V8NLdhGAPI>Bold, brash, made for artistic purposes by talented musicians who long to be remembered like the great composers of the past, will be remembered by time fondlyMillennial "music"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hTWKbfoikeghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGEiDMf01swhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RECuQaaGGfAhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TP9GZNcpbro>Safe, subservient to the establishment, nihilistic, poor imitation of what boomers and gen Xers did better, meaningless by it's own definition, no sense of beauty, will be forgotten once the last millennial diesMillennials are soulless husks who cannot fathom music being anything other than rockslop. Their entire mind is fixated on what is on the radio and have no ability to look beyond (i.e this post mentioning Sabrina Carpenter of all things as an example of gen Z music). They do not understand art and especially not music, if you were to ban them all from the board, it'd be a better place. The world can only hope to recover from millennials and eventually forget about them. Truly the most soulless generation to have ever lived
>>127584108Truth nuke
>>127575863>It doesn't help if we are constantly firing shots on social media. They aren't getting mad over nothing.You come in here every thread yet you can never once name an example of this happening. Regardless, no zoomer who browses 4chan uses social media so your point is braindead, retarded and you should kill yourself
Another crusty oldfag seething about us zoomerCHADS. I enjoy watching you millenial failures cry, whilst I munch on my tide pods.
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>>127584271niggas coally though
>>127584271quisit
>>127584399cobson got the gemmy tho
>>127581170damn, are you me? i won't go to shows that are all-ages now. although now some zoomers are pushing 30, so we're just fucked.
>>127584450>although now some zoomers are pushing 30, so we're just fucked.if you are in your 40s whining about shit like this on 4chan, you actually need to kill yourself
>>127584467>4cuckers should kill themselves
>>127570419>Gen Z can't enjoy music from past generations without co-opting it?What does this mean exactly?
>>127574404>>127581170Jesus are you people really this mentally ill? I have never used tiktok in my life, you're seething at a stereotype you made up. Consider suicide
>>127584467i'm not, you worthless wigger zoomer
>>127584494>admits to being a transexual zoomer
>>127575773I’m almost 30 and Greep/Black midi are great imo. But I started listening to jazz rock, prog, and metal as a child and never stopped. They aren’t too experimental, they have clear influences, but they are just a solid band. They offer intriguing songwriting that holds up to repeat listening.The vocals are strange, and I understand why some people hate them. I didn’t like the vocals/lyrics much at first and genuinely didn’t like a single track off of Hellfire, thought it leaned away from their strengths and into even more theatrical territory. Only loved one track each off of black midi’s debut and also The New Sound. But I was drawn back due to them being an engaging listen, and a lot of the tracks grew on me considerably. Especially once I grew to enjoy Greep’s vocals (for the most part, sometimes he goes a bit overboard, but so did david byrne and it’s not enough to turn me off in either case).
>>127584556You'll complain about basedjaks while posting this, kek
>>127584235based
Old people should focus on having a job and raising a family. Leave the music/fashion/pop culture stuff to the young.
>>127584676I only liked Greeps solo album desu. The other stuff was too zappa-like for my taste I guess. Love BCNRs first two albums, Isaac was a generational talent. Now they're shit, unfortunately. The UK has been having some really interesting bands come out of it though which weirdly enough seem to be the acts most inspired by 90s and 00s underground music which mostly aligns with my taste. Caroline's new album is amazing imo. I was surprised to learn that it was yet another UK band.
>>127584877If you're going to bite our style, we are allowed to criticize you.Simple as, fag.
>>127585705"get a life"
>>127585779Like yours?
>>127584877>reposting from RedditShig.
>>127585705Classical era composers during the Romantic era:
>>127570419I think you're shizco and most zoomers will listen to the songs fine, if anything it's old people who are weird about their music and have to be ironic or whatever to justify liking it vs just liking it generally. If a zoomer listens to some shit like Limp Biskit it's because they like the dumb song, if a millennial does it there's some irony bullshit to it.
>>127587896That's the one thing I can give zoomers credit for, when they like something they actually like it, there's like no irony poisoning or trying to justify liking something that might be looked down on for being stupid, or corny or whatever. I mean remember zoomers created this meme as kinda a response to that stuff.
>>127587896I absolutely do both. I listen to CG5.>>127587941That meme was created in response to Zoomers' own tendencies, and it didn't magically end irony by its existence. I honestly don't know how much of a thing that is for like Millennials I just remember getting together with the boys and putting on the worst most annoying shit on the "aux"
>>127573430>fallout boy>emoNo, emo bands are bands like Mineral, Rites of Spring and Thursday
>>127570419I was born in 94 and have no idea what anyone in the thread is talking about. Ive never listend to any non metal music not made between '70-'90. Also why do I see so many millenials try to gatekeep nu/shit metal from zoomers now? Nu metal was always a poserfest and just shitty music in generalhttps://youtu.be/qTCax9s2dm8
>>127572524I don't know a single millennial that ever listened to "stop clap hey" music. It was always soulless corporate slop you would only hear in a commercial or at the local Starbucks. Where did zoomies get the idea that this genre was ever popular?
>>127589123the kind of people who go to starbucks listened to it while getting starbucks duh
>>127588226fallout boy were real emo desu. they came from diy hardcore scene.
>>127570419they dont have their own generation, their own generation is when gens died, the internet made everything an amalgamation
>>127578301>I'm a millennial and like it when zoomers wear JNCOs. The first time I saw that in the wild I was like holy shit we're SO back. Not sure about everything else though.are we actually back JNCO bros?
