>Production Resources:https://dmpdoc.neocities.org/https://pastebin.com/pYGCLu6qhttps://pastebin.com/p2QUqMzj>/prod/ wiki - still looking for contributorshttp://mu-sic-production.wikia.comUse Vocaroo to post WIPs.https://vocaroo.com/No self-promotion allowed (eg. sharing your soundcloud/youtube links).Sister thread: >>>/g/dmpPrevious: >>127524934
>the classic /prod/ as your poster name instead of subject
https://vocaroo.com/1hBcfkzKULeyi know the drop is only 8 bars so far, i shallst extend tonight
>no subjectrip thread
Extended my Sonic SFX >>127548895 trackhttps://voca.ro/1bp17Jt1ips6I tried following some of the advice on here - added a bunch of guitars (I can play, so not having any was a waste I guess), a B section and some chords circling back to the chorus/drop. I doubled the chorus at the end but it might be too much of the same now - perhaps I can introduce some variations for the 2nd chorus before the halftime
>>127581071How do I get biceps like his?
is it normal practice to sidechain a guitar bus to the whole drum bus or just the kick?
>>127580702Analog Love (2020)https://youtu.be/tSoqwveuyg0?si=YM_gaE09IbTCnH10
>>127581685Just the kick is the common way to do itWith the whole drums your guitar is going to be muted 90% of the time. What sound would you want to achieve?
>>127581720im just doing very light sidechain to help the drums break through the mix a bit more. guitars are still very loud and i can barely notice the compression happening.
>>127581730In that case I would just lower the guitars or play with EQ. Sidechaining the whole thing might give an irregular pumping effect on your guitars which I don't think would sound very good. You might not be noticing it if the gain is low but yeah I wouldn't recommend it.
>>127581852oky doky ill keep playing around
>think i have a decent mix>mixdown>listen through regular headphones>extreme earrape in the higher frequenciesi gotta start using reference tracks more
https://youtu.be/5cbCYwgQkTEDo you guys think she regrets doing this now that so many people in the arts hate everything related to AI, and that AI voices are fully associated with low quality slop (even outside of TTS)?
>>127581071
Any tips/advice to how to get a 'Lead' sounding like this for a drop?I've been trying to figure out these types of drops.>So you have like a bass in the basement/subs>Maybe some distorted white noise of the mix in the bottom as well>And then a lead that follows a melody/is a melody.The synth lead type sound is what I am looking for. I haven't been happy with my noise selection.Probably a me issue as I feel like I have enough sounds. Just not the right ones.. I don't know how you'd build the wave form or what you'd call it.>Automated gates? I have a few guesses. too tired to test everything tonight but hoping someone knows a good play to look to.It's probably simple but I don't know where to start.What I am trying to accomplish/practice:https://vocaroo.com/18LI6s1OptqGhttps://youtu.be/JY76tO4qe8Q?si=nKMaH3GZ7b-LIqps&t=172Like those punchy keys/synth for the chords that goes along with the kick.
>>127581656For Kangaroomaxxing you need to>spam overhead cable tricep extensions, lateral raises, facepulls, and shrugs>avoid bending/closing your elbow against any type of resistance>grip the handles as lightly as you can without losing your grip>induce palumboism by abusing HGH>starve yourself and use diuretics to lose all possible fat and water>minoxidil and microneedling once a week on your entire body>spray tanCongratulations. You are now ready to terrorize Australian suburbs and fuck sheilas left and right like a sick cunt.
If im getting couple of sales on bandcamp does that mean my music is good?
>>127582334how much are they paying?
>>127582353Not much, minimum available figure
>>127581628Way too busy now. The guitar has introduced loads of clashing and nasty frequencies that weren't there before. Mix in general sounds a lot worse. Hope you saved the other version as a seperate project.
>>127581071That top loop is foul. Sounds like someone making wet mouth noises and smacking their lips over and over.
>Made first bar of melody over B-flat tonic>Accidentally made the worst sounding thing I've ever heardMaybe I should study melodies first
>>127581992holly herndon has always been a forward thinker, so probably not on a moral regret but a “damn this is a bad look…” regret.the take “ai has valid creative uses but only when…” isn’t a hot take when we’re talking about just the art in a vacuum. but gets a negative reaction *now* because it became immediately obvious to everybody even outside creative fields how naive it is to talk about it theoretically like that when the effects of its use have become so apparent so immediately- we can’t take the good without the “oh fuck we are not prepared as a society for this at all” stuff.
i have a soundcloud follower now it is over i am not a part of the /prod/ underground anymore. it is lonely at the top
>>127582044add some glide and make it dirty idk. play around with the resonance, cutoff, add a phaser, whatever.
>>127582971there are just some notes like b6 which are very painful because they sit around 2k-3k that is where the pain occurs. has more to do with the notes and where they sit in the spectrum and not so much with the notes you play or in what order. i feel beginners always overlook this. like you can not make it sound good but play objectively awful notes. b6 + 25 cents is around 3k. 3k is very offensive, sounds very piercing. when i want to boost something 1k is usually the best area to get more sweetness and everything above tends to become too irritating. the ear canal just amplifies certain frequencies that is why you lose hearing around those the easiest. so it is basically louder but just in your ears not on the graph.
>>127582334Yeah, I'd say it's indicative. Keep up the good work.
>>127582879Oh noAlright then I'll work on smoothing it outI wouldn't roll it back though, as I'd lose the progress I've made on the composition
i wish playing and recording physical instruments wasn't so fucking annoying to do because resampling and morphing it all into something unrecognizable is super fun =(
also guitars need presets for tunings and every vst piano should cater specifically to my needs by not making me dive into the deep dark recesses of kontakt hell and detune every sample group manually
>>127582971Haven't you heard, there is no such thing as a wrong note? Music is about the journey... where you came from and where you're going...https://vocaroo.com/19CBkTvHDlFL
reminder
>>127584695Post it to >>>/g/dmp
>>127583163All true. Tbh all things considered, I would really like it to disappear, and let the world go back to pre-AI times for many reasons, but the chances of that happening are virtually zero. It's here and we can only accept it and deal with it, so IMO it's in our best interest to at least, while we endure its negatives, take advantage of its positives.It's kinda like PEDs in cycling. It would be better if they didn't exist, but since they do and everybody else is using them, you'd essentially be sabotaging yourself not to use them too (as long as you don't get caught lol).I get the people who don't want to participate in something they see as harmful, and I guess being so vocally anti-AI is contributing to companies and people choosing to hire humans instead of AI (for good optics or fear of backlash), but that's at best a short term win.
>>127584919sure
>>127583759thanks, i have couple of dozen free downloads already of my songs/ albums but only few actual purchases. maybe i should consider setting the minimum price, although it doesnt matter now that i still dont get much playsthanks for the encouragement. i will keep producing and bettering my songwriting and production skills
>>127585791Kek he jumped on it immediately.
https://vocaroo.com/1bBlGSOubG12Trying out some kinda lofi shit. Let me know what needs fuckin with
>>127585972adjust the voices of your piano chords or just shift it down an octave so they're not clashing with the synth and vocal
>>127585890kek
https://vocaroo.com/1ifkvZ5T7QLp
>>127586025Okay thanks anon. I’ll try that
>>127581685why are you sidechaining in the first place? mix it better. unless your kick is a dance music kick you don't need to sc the audio out of the way.
>>127581730no that is wrong. move the drums in placement. you are mixing it wrong
>>127586733nta but sidechaining in that manner is super common in pop
>>127586733If you want modern sounding drums you gotta sidechain bro, almost no matter the genre
i never sidechain i edit the volume manually
>residual guitar-player-itis making you overplay the melody in every takefrick
>>127585972 If you don't want to consider layering the kick, lower the volume a cunt hair and cut low frequencies and cut some of the highs from it for a matching low fi sound. Would give careful attention to it.A drop is anticipated but I wouldn't do a drop either. Maybe a reversed symbol before i'd screw it up and put a club shaker sample and reverbed snap or something. dont' do that. I don't agree with the another anon. Just worry about arrangement composition. I guess you are trying to have it sound good through phone speakers.
whose fucking retard idea was it to make the piano roll vertical instead of horizontal, and why did every other retard just to along with it? I never once faced my piano from the side and was like "wow man this is so much better". you sit in front of the fucker, not at a 90° angle.
>>127587812Have no idea. Sometimes it's useful, sometimes it's not.
HAKKAR! Hear mi call! Bless me wit de mojo
>>127587812Music notation is read left-to-right, not up-and-down.
I like mixing and playing with effects more than actually composing.
>>127588248fair'n'fine
i hate recording guitar it always sounds so Shit
>>127587812bro just like play the piano if it's more effort to use the piano roll
gimmicky idea: two producers on opposite stages, audience in the middle, both delivering one unified set but each handling different parts
>>127588248opposite for me i hate producing i just want to make some cute compositions and beats
>>127588400Let's be friends
https://vocaroo.com/1hWwPLnipyvni like the beat but no idea where to take it after this
>>127588412sure thing, this is something i made see if flights your fancy>>127588413
>>127587557https://voca.ro/1aYrHtGTVC2hLet me know what you think. I just saw your suggestions and I’m going to fuck w it more tonight/tomorrow
>>127588475>https://voca.ro/1aYrHtGTVC2hthat transition in the middle is cool, add some mf bass my homie track is gaggin for it
>>127588506All right like 808 shit or what are you thinking my man? I’m pretty new to prodoooooocing. It’s got a baseline should I just turn that up?? Thanks for listening
>>127588538I only really noticed it at the end. Grab a bass and start poppin it senpai
>>127588213music notation is actually legible though, unlike dogshit vertical piano rolls. maybe if the Ableton piano roll wasn't this dog shit low contrast grey on grey it would be almost usable.
https://youtu.be/ygCOLpZhWyganyone have an idea how to make this vocal effect? it's like a vocoder, except not shit sounding. i'm also wondering how you get the noise to interact with the audio signal like this. it's not just a white boise layer in the background, it actually interacts with the audio and they become a combined sound.
>>127588617bro is NEW new
>>127588635>it's not just a white noise layer in the background, it actually interacts with the audio and they become a combined sound.That's exactly what vocoders do, they modulate a sound source using another sound source, maybe you've just heard versions that sound shit to you but the effect you want can be done with a vocoder
>>127584559I read somewhere that someone's comp professor said "think horizontally, not vertically" when it comes to making music and I think your little ditty helped me get that. Thanks anonI definitely get caught up in perfection, but I've found with other things just approaching it like a sandbox helps make it fun first and then some type of "thing" next. I want to make some sort of theme for an imaginary game but beyond that the goal shall be fun. Reminds me of college marching band, although less sweaty
>>127588593Bassed
>>127588635>>127588790it’s a parallel bitcrusher you doofuses. then distort or otherwise upwardly compress
https://vocaroo.com/1aqSHH9eosDA
https://vocaroo.com/16pbOgUoTWXm
>>127589296chimpy
>>127580702>can't sing worth shit>be me>have pretty good ideas>can play guitar relatively well>just jammin in ableton having a good time>already wrote entire song in key i cant singfug lads. what do? I like my little island-esque jig I got going>https://voca.ro/174rLNNuAwtT
>>127590066Get a fuckin singer or maybe just kill yourself I guess
>>127588593Did I overdo it with the bass now kek. Shits hard
>>127590126that's not very kind
>>127590250Sorry anon I'm just pissed off at antis attacking me for my writing so I'm trying to do music instead
>>127590303That's alright, anon. No worries. I feel you there. Haters gonna hate.
>>127590066I don't think it's bad. Your voice is fine.>what do you doPractice singing more>Find a singer/ fiverr. I don't know about ethics but you could always... if it so important. e.g.https://vocaroo.com/14NTNeBIzWVk
>>127590480Damn if only I could sing that well even if that is shitty AI. But that would be nice to get ideas and melodies down on paper. What did you do to make this?
>>127590066Bro I don't think your vocals are bad. I was expecting much worse. I think it sounds cooler than the AI singer. Reminded me of les claypool. I think you just need some practice and maybe you can hide behind some effects (like recent les claypool lmao)
>>127590603It's SUNO AIYou can upload your songs and get the isolated stems.It'll changes the instrumental but clearly you can just get the vocal stem if you sing the melody well enough.
>>127590192You had me thinking you knew what you were doing.
>>127590678Based. I will have to experiment with this lol.
>>127590693It would help if I posted the fucking song. I’m a retard anon my badhttps://voca.ro/1lK4b9u9m90s
so im regularly playing in drop c for my shoegaze/doom stuff but the bass guitars dont quite have the scale or sound i want for drop c. any bass enthusiasts able to recommend me some types of bass? im thinking a warwick or ibanez of some kind, probably active pickups.
>>127589086but there's still a vocoder right? but no matter what I do, the vocoder always has this hollow sound like it's playing from a cheap battery powered bathroom radio
>>127590804I like it, the track has some more low end now. Still quite low on the low end, but personally i love bass so im always biased>>127588413Nobody r8 my beat? Screw u guise
i think my mixing skills are coming along. ive finally made some progress. i just wanted to thank the anon in this general the other day who told me simply my drums were taking up too much headroom where the guitars could be sitting. it has been the number one factor in fixing my tracks.
>>127593030no, there’s no vocoder. there’s auto tune.
>>127589296Cool sound. Did you make this in a daw or are those actual guitars? You can’t just repeat the same shit over and over for a song kek
>>127590804>https://voca.ro/1lK4b9u9m90sThat's totally different from the initial post. You don't need any more help. You know the rest is just icing on the cake. Good job.
>listen to newest kream song>it has one of the most basic splice latin tech vocalsHow is this real
>>127594220they look like your basic edmbroI also dislike the "drone filmed landscape mix set" trend, comes off as inorganic(irony)
whats the secret to a filth reese bass that not only sounds deep and fat, but can also be felt?
>>127594154Wow dude thanks a lot. I’ve only been producing for a few weeks I really appreciate it.
Mixed my one of my mates live shows he did, just a fun wee project... Good Lord did the main vocal have bleed...
>>127594537>felteither layer a clean sub or do stupid multiband compression like the cool kids (me).also another case for bouncing to audio- you control exactly what's playing, how it's going to phase and wobble and so on.
good morning m- wait who tf is that...https://vocaroo.com/1bseRvjTJ2BN
>>127594745great tip thank you anon
I should've started beat boxing my drums and percussion and ear candy way earlier>beat box the rhythm and elements>now you just have to line up your samples with the transients, then delete or mute the beat box>profit
>>127595148use the beatbox coward
https://youtu.be/NvsvBL7b8Dg?si=V3Om-LDt2obhfDmiFuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck
>>1275952632hollis unbirthing ritual at the blaccent cafe
>>127595263not quite on the level of heaven suspended but still crazy good. i just wish those two were less gooner core. but I suppose if dudes are allowed to rape about fucking bitches and getting their dick sucked, then women are allowed to sing about squirting
>>127595263Sterile post-african repetitions>>127595288Good name for an indie band
>>127595408How about neither
>>127595415yea would be ideal
>>127594154>>127593764https://voca.ro/18Zh1WsHh0fOMade a slowed down bassier version. Sounds dreamy
>>127595263Sounds like shit desu. Did this need to be 10 minutes long…?
>>127595046Yesterday I saw a bird flying around in my kitchen and thought “how tf did a bat get in here?” and as I approached to let it out I realized it was a GOD DAMN BAT. Fuckin nightmare.The drums sound off in this. Glad to see you in this thread tranny-kun
>>127595536you were in the same room with a bat, that means you prob have rabies now
>>127595570I’m vaccinated fucko
>>127595521The sound design elements taken individually are mostly simple enough at their core but in terms of refinement, range, mixing, and the micro-level arrangements lending themselves to an "organic" feel, this remix/Sweat/Forever/Heav3n Suspended (basically Sophie's 'late' period in the year or so leading up to her death) is some of the most meticulous and bouncing electronic production of the past 6 years, I can understand the aesthetic not being to peoples' personal tastes but I think people playing down her skill level just don't have an ear for fine detail frankly
>>127581992It was acceptable in the 80s
>>127595577not how it works
>>127595611it's funny because she abandoned the monomachine for her best work but somehow that thing is seen as her defining instrument. lots of analog rytm on heaven suspended and this one though. pretty much every single traditional drum sound of which there are much more on those projects
>>127595536th- thanks dad...
>>127595636It was acceptable at the time
>>127595659What did she use the Monomachine for?To my understanding it was mostly a workflow tool for getting ideas down, and the actual production was pretty much all in the box.The in the studio interview shows her using Serum, and the Tzef Montana article mentions her being "Obsessed with her laptop" and working 17-hour stretches (not sure how trustworthy this is).Are there sources showing what she actually did on the Monomachine?
>>127595641Explain
>>127592507Do D instead
>>127595769her early stuff like "nothing more to say" was 100% monomachine.on product, only the squelches, bubbles etc. were monomachine. basically anything that had fast alterations of different sounds because of how the monomachine's p locks and arpeggiator interacted with each other. vroom vroom ep was probably the last thing that had a lot of monomachine on it. i know because I have a monomachine and I recognise the kick and snap samples from the drum machine inside the mono (Sophie said all her stuff was synthesized but the monomachine did come with some 12 bit drum samples she used.)other than that, as you said, it was a sketching tool. oil of and everything that came after had no monomachine on them whatsoever. on those it was Ableton session view + Ableton Push set up in a way to work similar to the mono machine workflow, sequencer style. Her main synths were Serum and Errorsmith Razor
>>127595860Thank you.Where does this information come from?
>>127595917like 100 different sources I compiled over the years but especially https://artsandculture.google.com/story/2wWx4L63W07OIQ
how do i get a waveform like the bottom one. what do i need to combine with a sine wave
is there a way in Ableton to live midi overdub parameter changes and not just notes? i thought I could just enable midi overdub, press record and then move the knobs around while the midi I previously recorded played, but after i end the recording it turns out none of those parameter changes were recorded.
>>127595964sawtooth?
>>127594083Yeah I record all guitars and bass. It's an outro and a closing of an LP, at the moment it's the only part that has blastbeats, need to make adjustments elsewhere
>>127595964I think that's ring mod/amp mod. i mean bottom one looks like it'd be higher frequency than top one if that were the case, but off the top of my head that'd be my guess, sine wave RM'd/AM'd by a saw wave. many mainstream synths have ring mod, I know serum does, image-line sytrus, probably vital too.either way hard to tell based on scribble drawing vs actual waveforms or sound examples
>>127595964
Something to bump tighten up the frequency based on the number of cycles you want per the original sin wave; ex sin(A*x) -- where A=3 or 4 or so.Then multiply all that by a sawtooth wave to get that taper.A year or so ago I watched a video of some dude writing a basic sound generator in C++ and he had a really good example that seems like it would be relevant here; he even shared a website that plots your equations to make it easy to visual.Wish I could that video for you, but my bookmarks are an absolute mess.
>>127597237Holy shit... just reread my post here. The brain damage. Hopefully this isn't an early sign of dementia or something.
>>127596200almost. i had to multiply sine by saw and then subtracted the saw from that, now it's that shape
putting reverb and amp on all my subsi think i might be getting sick :((you guys have no idea this is going to be so insane as i spend the last of my energy)
