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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ggTRSyEbXU8&list=OLAK5uy_lSU8IZMWjjf96COJ1cyFI1n6Qv0646x8g&index=3

This thread is for the discussion of music in the Western (European) classical tradition, as well as classical instrument-playing.

>How do I get into classical?
This link has resources including audio courses, textbooks and selections of recordings to help you start to understand and appreciate classical music:
https://rentry.org/classicalgen

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Reminder Bach and after, before and not including Ives.
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>– I think it was András Schiff who said that Bach belongs to everybody – not just the harpsichordists!

>– Yes, and another thing Schiff says is that the main reason he plays the 48 on a modern piano is the F minor prelude from the second book, because it’s almost impossible to do that kind of appoggiatura on a harpsichord.

harpsichord-anons btfo'd

https://www.pianostreet.com/blog/piano-news/piano-music-to-cleanse-the-soul-pietro-de-maria-on-bach’s-48-8220

also
>– You seem to take great interest in Bach’s use of number symbolism.

>– Yes, I find it fascinating to note how Bach uses numbers to put his signature to things and tell us of his intentions. The theme of the first fugue, for example, is made of 14 notes, Bach’s own number (B=2 + A=1 + C=3 + H=8). And then this theme is played 24 times, once for each major and minor key.
>Another interesting fugue in terms of number symbolism is the C-sharp minor fugue in Book I. For me, this is a choral fugue. In the WTC, there are only two fugues with 5 voices, which is what you find in the big sacred works. This already gives you an idea of the spiritual significance of this piece. And for the first theme, he uses the four-note “cross motif”, with its obvious reference to Christ. All in all, he uses three themes in this magnificent fugue, which I think should be interpreted as a symbol of the divine Trinity.

love it
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Schubert

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-YbCgc218c0
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tN-JJ4Qd5xM
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Beethoven

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LnagDaX_vj4&list=OLAK5uy_mK6sfYCN8eXOaLeEwQjayua_IVsOOzmjA&index=3
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>>127651161
> How do I get into classical?
>This link has resources including audio courses, textbooks and selections of recordings to help you start to understand and appreciate classical music:
>https://rentry.org/classicalgen
Nobody clicks on your link, boomer
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Schubert is ridiculously overrated as a composer of sonatas, symphonies and chamber music.
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>>127651424
great performance
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>>127651564
>sonatas,
His piano sonatas are indeed that good, but I can understand disagreement.
>symphonies
Agreed.
>and chamber music.
Nah, on this one you're just wrong.
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>>127651556
That’s not the point. He is a creature of habit; he is set in his ways.
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>>127651556
I literally just did, actually
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>>127651722
You are OP, thoughbeit
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>>127651161
>>127651722
Hmmm
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>>127651754
Guess you're wrong
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Haydn

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qWhvFR2U65s&list=OLAK5uy_mgbxXwEz9a0RYjCG1KG-gLRRNYUULbJPM&index=19
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>>127651770
>Posts from phone
You are pathetic.
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>>127651796
I am a PC poster, begone dipshit
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>>127651811
If you are not OP, why are you fighting his battles? Are you two gay lovers?
You aren’t fooling anyone, goober.
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Bach
https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=xR7jELI6CHE
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>>127651826
>>127651796
>>127651754
stop being a schizo, jeez
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>>127651826
Because I understand that effortposting stops this board from being closed, so I support it.
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>>127652310
You still haven’t explained why you rushed to OP’s defense…
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>>127652317
How does posting the same link in every thread constitute effort posting, goober?
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>>127651770
We got an uber haxor on our hands. KOEK
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>>127652358
Because it's a large list of assembled materials of music theory, music recommendations and help in getting into stuff other than romanticism. I am interested in getting further into classical music. The initial post I replied to was saying that nobody uses the link, and because I came into this thread and l literally used the link seconds before reading that post, I responded to it. I don't understand why you're being such a huffy little bitch, but I don't see what the point of you posting in this thread actually is, other than to pretend to be a dipshit, or maybe you're not pretending.
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>>127652399
A unlikely story!
You aren’t fooling anyone, goober.
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>>127652317
>>127652399
holy based
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>Hello, not-OP here, let me just interject by saying that OP is 100% right and based about everything
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Long time no see you, anons
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>>127652529
The exclusively early music fan returns
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>A new personality suddenly appears
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>>127652587
Posts about classical music are always encouraged.
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>>127652569
Trying to find a good (musical) match to my pulp fiction reading list. Maybe some pagan (gasp) or secular early music would be fine.
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>>127652633
You are the petty tyrant of /classical/
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>>127652668
For background reading music, maybe the piano music of Couperin, Haydn, or Mozart. Or the string quartets of Haydn or Mozart.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pptuu4WzjoI

or since you might prefer harpsichord
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-K0yYa9KsmI
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>>127652685
I believe in stemming negativity.
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>>127652698
Most narcissists do.
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>>127652689
>string quartets of Haydn
These could work, ty
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>>127652707
Well, so long as I'm on the side of the angels, creativity, and good faith posters
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>>127652712
>Defends a guy posting the same link every thread
>creativity
You are deranged.
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>>127652717
...the link that's supposed to go in the OP every thread meant to aid newcomers? Yes, I'm happy to.
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>>127652717
>>127652726
Also I didn't do that -- I did, however, praise the anon who *did* do that.
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>>127652726
>Supposed to
Let’s focus on this. “Supposed to” according to whom? Why does it have to be that link? Why do we need to read your link before appreciating classical music? I don’t think you have given this much thought.
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>>127652759
It was there when I started posting here, and who am I to try and change a tradition? Anyway, I'm done talking about this, gonna lay down and listen to some music. Have a good one!
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>>127652770
Oh, it’s like the talmud, G*d must have put it there…
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https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=Jw0zyMtpTVg
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>>127651556
The link is not for regulars. If the general has only regulars, well... what do you expect?
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>>127652910
>You must listen to my list of classical music
No.
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You are a pedantic control freak.
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>>127653019
Give me a rec, anon (classical music obv). A single one. I will listen to it without further remarks.
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>Welcome to the /classical/ sticky, here you'll find resources including audio courses, textbooks and selections of recordings to help you start to understand and appreciate classical music.

You don’t need to take a course or read textbook to enjoy listening to classical music.
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>>127653078
Warning: insufficient funds deposited
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E string on violin breaks when retuning pegs. extra E string breaks. order some off amazon, amazon loses the package. new order won't get here until wednesday.
i just want to play my violin
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Man, Ashkenazy's Beethoven piano sonatas cycle would be so much better if he had picked a better sounding piano to play for it. It's still good, but not what it could and should have been. Bummer.
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https://youtu.be/g5IPnjiJrKI?si=Y4prMvSW6_w_G5Q8&t=3851

Hollow Knight Silksong is a beauty of a game. An absolute work of art. Christopher Larkin has cited Wagner as his main influence, and it is very evident in the craft. Remember children, everything good and great which exists in this world came from Wagner.
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Did you guys know Wagner created this world?
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now playing

start of Dvorak: Piano Concerto in G Minor, Op. 33, B. 63
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPUnk1xc_Wo&list=OLAK5uy_kztIz2B0hFfDm8pWHVgii3AfIh0ae7VIM&index=2

Dvorak: The Golden Spinning Wheel, Op. 109, B. 197
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wB7UFrmueAg&list=OLAK5uy_kztIz2B0hFfDm8pWHVgii3AfIh0ae7VIM&index=4

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kztIz2B0hFfDm8pWHVgii3AfIh0ae7VIM

a commonly cited reference recording for this piano concerto
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Bach
https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=pGmFOcCjI58
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>>127653100
you also need to understand Schenkerian and Hindemithian analysis.
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>>127653248
Wagner's music is better than this world.
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>>127651556
don't click on the link! It's full of viruses! OP is a fucking faggot who should kill himself.
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now playing

Rachmaninoff: Trio Elégiaque No. 1 in G Minor
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-yKRZDgX4U&list=OLAK5uy_nTvwtapU7MzO2JuDbpWmTAgj591f6ZRYc&index=2

start of Rachmaninoff: Trio élégiaque No. 2 in D minor, Op. 9 for Piano, Violin and Cello
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DdaYUZh2Rk&list=OLAK5uy_nTvwtapU7MzO2JuDbpWmTAgj591f6ZRYc&index=3

Rachmaninoff: Vocalise, Op. 34, No. 14 (Arr. Piano & Violin)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MVKNMSVsbRM&list=OLAK5uy_nTvwtapU7MzO2JuDbpWmTAgj591f6ZRYc&index=6

Rachmaninoff: Son, Op. 38, No. 5 (Arr. Piano & Cello)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FoXrzyrn4Y&list=OLAK5uy_nTvwtapU7MzO2JuDbpWmTAgj591f6ZRYc&index=6

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nTvwtapU7MzO2JuDbpWmTAgj591f6ZRYc
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when's the last time you listened to Tchaikovsky's 6th, anon?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZWPG_JCybc
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>>127655010
Couple months ago, by North Korean orchestra
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>>127655010
I don't listen to music composed by faggots.
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>>127655025
Damn, so you never hum your own melodies then? That's a damn shame.
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https://youtu.be/p2BxV8BdVus?si=6y8QH11SPJcNWKYT

Is Hilary Hahn really that good?
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>>127655276
kill yourself.
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>>127655276
figures :O asians would like Hahn

I almost screencapped that thumbnail myself and posted it here the other day
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>>127655310
What the hell?
>>127655316
>figures :O asians would like Hahn
What is that supposed to mean?
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>practice piano every day for years
>rarely listen to any music anymore

anyone else?
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Grosse Fuge is my favorite thing Beethoven ever wrote. Perhaps that anyone ever wrote.
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>>127655414
I stopped practicing and listening to music for 10 years, I deeply regret it. Now I'll have to learn everything all over again from scratch.
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>>127655425
have you watched The Mechanic (1972)?
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>>127655494
Nope. Why?
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>>127655510
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eevsNQI6reE&t=1257
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>>127655573
>content not available in your country
Mutt-exclusive huh
>turn on VPN
>same message
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>>127656247
sorry. I'll find a better link.
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>>127656274
https://m.ok.ru/video/2365444852376

starts at 20:57
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Thoughts on Rimsky-Korsakov and Vaughan William? Twoset put them in D tier on their composers tier list, but I think both Scheherazade and The Lark Ascending are S tier compositions, anyone agree?
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>>127656514
who the fuck is "twoset"? sounds like a pair of retarded gay gooks.
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>>127656552
close, they're actually choynese (as they say in aussieland)
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>>127656552
>is into classical music
>doesnt know twoset
uuh.. have you been living under a rock?
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>>127656630
I wish. twoset posters should be permabanned.
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>makes your boring baroque shite listenable
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>>127656437
Took you 20min? Damn, thanks. Lol.
Literally me, I'll watch that.
>>127657649
So much this. I was watching Richter: Enigma just 2 days ago but it was too late I fell asleep
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>when its time for a daily reminder
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>Today I will remind them

BAB
A
B

>DAILY REMINDER
>DAILY REMINDER

IAA
A
A

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NO MOZART
NO CHOPIN
NO MAHLER
ALL ROMANTICS SCRAM!

ALL CLASSICISTS EAT SHIT AND DIE
THIS THREAD IS FOR MARIN MARAIS!

SONATA FORM SHOULD DIE
ONLY CONCERTO GROSSO FOR I!

HAYDN IS LIKE A ROTTEN WHEAT
WHAT I NEED IS A BACH CELLO SUITE


BACH AND BEFORE, IVES AND AFTER
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>when they listen to Mozart and Haydn concertos and completely neglect the Sun Kings court
>When they listen to vocal works by Verdi, Rossini or Puccini, but not Palestrina or the Franco-Flemish School
>When they don't listen to Marin Marais more frequently than Beethoven or Brahms
>No Perotin or Medieval Music
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>>127657649
he's ok
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JYePt5TpGXU&list=OLAK5uy_nUhiQWEvj9CKf8ZXxLcjyS9jPaIzGQklY&index=6
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>Bach
>Machaut
>Ives
>Marais
>Buxtehude
>Stravinsky
>Reich
>Bartok

No Mozart, No Brahms, No Haydn, No Mahler
No Autistic Teutonic spirit shall oppress or taint the Gallic, Latin, and Slavic soul
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>>127651245
>Reminder Bach and Before, Ives and After
Well said my friend, well said.
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>Listening to Bach
>not listening to Mozart
>Listening to Marais
>Not listening to Haydn
>Listening to Ravel
>not listening to Mahler
>listening to Stravinsky
>not listening to Schoenberg or Shostakovich

Is there a better feeling in this world?
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>Your Romanticism
>My Foot
>Your Classicism
>My Fist

I will crush the Mozart enjoyers, and liberate the Chopin listeners with Vivaldi, Josquin, and Perotin
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Mozart gives me the ick,

As does Brahms, Mahler, Handel, early-middle Beethoven, Bruckner, Chopin, Schumann, Strauss II, Hindemith, Schoenberg, Reger, Berg, Tchaikovsky, Boulez, Stockhausen, Haydn, Bruch, Salieri, Shostakovich, Clementi, and Prokofiev

That is all
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Why does German music besides Wagner, some Beethoven and Bach lack any sense of passion and sensuous feeling to it? Every time I listen to music like Brahms, Bruckner, Mahler Schumann, or Haydn I get the ick. The Surprise symphony, Schumann's simp songs or Brahms incel chamber music, they all sound like they've been written by men who never touched a woman or had them desire them. Compare this to Bach, Marais, Franck, or Faure, all of whose music has an understated sexual feeling to it, a restraint of it, or a memory of an encounter. I don't get this with the Germans at all, it seems like the lack of sexual encounters have made their music so irresolute, isolating, and will ostracize anyone who likes to have sex. The French and Italians don't have this issue for obvious reasons.

Why do G*rmans make such icky music /classical/?
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>If it ain't BAROQUE, don't fix it
>I dumped her because she BAROQUED my heart
>I had to go to the doctor because I BAROQUED my leg in a gondola accident
>I would go to the concerto with you, but I'm BAROQUE
>The Baroque BAROQUED the renaissance mold
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>average BABIAA listener

We will disarm and subdue every 18th-19th century heretic that would put on a Mozart Piano concerto or Chopin Nocturne

We are the Mockers of Mozart
We put a chokehold on classicism

We are the Cuckolders of Chopin
We are the Rapists of Romantics

We are the murderers of Mahler
We strike fear in ever pretentious and Neurotic writer of 1 hour symphonies
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now playing

start of Schumann: Symphony No. 3 in E-Flat Major, Op. 97 "Rhenish"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1GpgernJ1TE&list=OLAK5uy_km0hc6V3ZO5iwri8lb_CNhRCzdRxG6o7Y&index=2

start of Schumann: Symphony No. 4 in D Minor, Op. 120
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mRFRlHZvAeU&list=OLAK5uy_km0hc6V3ZO5iwri8lb_CNhRCzdRxG6o7Y&index=6

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_km0hc6V3ZO5iwri8lb_CNhRCzdRxG6o7Y
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reading a review for a Beethoven piano sonatas cycle by a pianist I'm unfamiliar with (HJ Kim), and I found their division and ordering of the pieces really interesting, take a look

My feelings on this kinda go back and forth -- I get why people don't want to just do chronological, they want to mix it up, add their own personal spin, and indeed, ordering and context can change and add new meanings and reveal fresh insights, all of which increase enjoyment, but sometimes I do get annoyed when trying to find the sonata I want on the playlist lol, and sometimes it backfires when I'm more in the mood for the breezy casual fun of the early and middle piano sonatas and instead one of the weightier one comes on, ruining the mood and forcing me to change it

That said, still really cool, and opening with the Hammerklavier is a bold mood. It was almost enough to get me to listen to the cycle but the tempos seem too brisk for my tastes, so I'm gonna pass, but here's a sampling in case anyone is interested

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0IP4DIltt8&list=OLAK5uy_n4A0CR8JxZd5-sdnW8p1fCLTGiGQpLq2M&index=48

I've had that playing while typing this post and sheesh, yeah, that's way too fuckin' fast for me lol, what a speed demon
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>>127655010
Going to see it live October 10th! It's gonna be awesome!
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lmao this album cover. won't see this anymore

>>127659547
Very cool, I'm jealous. Enjoy!
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>>127655276
Hilary Hahn Handie.
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>>127655401
>What is that supposed to mean?
That of course bugmen would enjoy her robotic, objective playing with focus on precision above all else. Correction: precision with nothing else. And then this objective precision gets mistaken for, because they genuinely prefer it, tasteful expression, when really it's the equivalent of detecting faint brainwave activity in a coma patient and declaring it promising if miraculous mental stimulation.

Banter aside, nothing wrong with liking Hahn, just keep the sound of her performances in your own home.
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>>127658761
>Schumann: Symphony No. 3 in E-Flat Major, Op. 97 "Rhenish"
My beloved. Unsurpassed. GOAT.
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I cannot stop listening to The Bible. By which I mean the Old Testament and New Testament. By which of course I mean Bach's Well-Tempered Clavier and Beethoven's Piano Sonatas. I am positively obsessed. I am obsessively in love. I am lovingly ensorcelled. I am under the spell of two of the greatest minds in all of human history. Much like Shakespeare's plays, these two piano cycles span the gamut of the human condition. The mind and body, heart and soul, heavens and earth, divine and personal, comic and tragic, ebullient and pensive.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3uHmsE2TUo&list=OLAK5uy_kKPF7Rjd-6tDB-oExD5H6VfVZckHq_95E&index=71
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All the above, except Chopin and Beethoven.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCX_LqME7tc
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>>127659852
I uh disagree. Sure, an early romantic piece? Probably not for her, but some pieces were written to be performed at 300bps. Composers, when they originally wrote them, didn't knew these kind of tempos are possible (or rather sustainable). Hilary provides an essential service and we all should thank her for it. Would I want to hear her interpretations every day? No. But sometimes I want to know how does technically perfect x1.25-x1.5 sounds like and there's a short list of people delivering on that and Hilary's name on top of it. Plus she's beating asians at their own game. Surely that counts for something?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o4wSifmQT_E
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>>127660102
Chopin does plunge and articulate the depths of man beyond that of any other composer, but I wouldn't describe any of his music as divine. Which is fine, again, he is the master of the heart, of human emotion and all of its vicissitudes and shades and tones. Anyone who comes to Chopin's music without knowing love or passion or happiness or tragedy or excitement or any other facet of the timbre of human sentiment leaves an well-molded expert. But he lacks divinity and transcendence, and for that I give the edge, even if slightly, to Liszt.
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speaking of Chopin, now playing

start of Chopin: 12 Études, Op. 10
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6nP9C7-2baw&list=OLAK5uy_mHp3eFLqaI6R7-K5ro9L0e34RoJUERTBc&index=2

start of Chopin: 12 Études, Op. 25
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XwQLLzlij1U&list=OLAK5uy_mHp3eFLqaI6R7-K5ro9L0e34RoJUERTBc&index=14

start of Chopin: 24 Preludes, Op. 28
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jsuNgi_roSs&list=OLAK5uy_mHp3eFLqaI6R7-K5ro9L0e34RoJUERTBc&index=26

start of Chopin: Polonaises
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JdhpbngcSkE&list=OLAK5uy_mHp3eFLqaI6R7-K5ro9L0e34RoJUERTBc&index=50

Chopin: Polonaise-Fantaisie in A-Flat Major, Op. 61
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crln-_F7xJs&list=OLAK5uy_mHp3eFLqaI6R7-K5ro9L0e34RoJUERTBc&index=55

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mHp3eFLqaI6R7-K5ro9L0e34RoJUERTBc
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>>127660224
Yes, but if I want something spiritual, I'll go with Bruckner first and foremost, or maybe Scriabin. 7th is the most transcendental piece of music I've experienced so far:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WqaQEsF55rg&list=OLAK5uy_l1y2Kl2kImDWiAoACBe95ubnSsj0tuiOE&index=1
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damnit, whenever I see Bruckner posted, now I have to listen to Bruckner
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>>127660277
Bollini :DDD
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Beethoven or Bach? One word answer please.
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>>127662048
Beethoven :D
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Jozdgovidj :DD

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87mQGWv-ybk
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>>127651245
>>127658378
>>127658448
>>127658463
The same lines everyday…
You are boring.
You only find this behavior amusing because you are taking drugs.
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>>127662463
no, it's because they're autistic
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>>127662481
Autistic people don’t have a sense of humor; it’s drugs.
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>>127662481
You are him, right? Who else has a vested interest in denying drugs are involved?
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ah yes, basso ostinato, or as I like to call it: bratty bottom
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Bach

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZqawV4sB9Qk&list=OLAK5uy_lKkYV7N46E6s9w9HryzCx6BKErnF9XTGY&index=27
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Oh the last summer' nights, the fall is approaching, and the music is nice.
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>>127661771
:p
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>>127664307
>the last summer nights, the fall is approaching
Only in the northern hemisphere, flattard
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>>127665152
shut up, ausnigger. nobody cares about your stupid fucking country. If Australia disappeared tomorrow no one would even notice.
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>>127665165
I am a citizen of the world. You know nothing about it, flattard.
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Chopin

Prélude No. 24
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1lsM3gnZ3s8
Prélude No. 25
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k2P5TtUzdGc
Nocturne No. 7
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NsVeFCEUJHk
Nocturne No. 13
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vceIxaxue70
Nocturne No. 16
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kz-bmcsebCo
Nocturne No. 19
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w7C6Iqrcc-g
Waltz No. 3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pv-QQ0ZHHK0
Étude No. 1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s8R-FZhLzJk
Étude No. 12
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RdZBofmR3zw
Étude No. 23
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANauN752Jvc
Étude No. 24
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LSwZyTkmtwA
Nouvelle étude No. 1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pkz5xeyFj2U
Romanza from Piano Concerto No. 1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qvjyMzdVjfo
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>>127665382
Chopin saved humanity.
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>>127665165
t.Ellis Islander met grootheidswaanzin
KOEK!
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BABIAA spammende idioot
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yknow, I was wrong, Beethoven's Piano Sonata No. 16 is fantastic. maybe he really does have 32 piano sonata masterpieces

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=01_b5Iduo38
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Schumann Seinfeld reference aside, is it Shoo-mon or Shoo-min?
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I've been obsessed with this heavenly polyrhythmic passage from the 4th ballade for some time, return of the 2nd theme:
https://youtu.be/QCX_LqME7tc?feature=shared&t=563

I had the same obsession before, but Moravec has really unique way of articulating that passage (bar 175, starts a few seconds after the timestampt in link, 09:37) triplets on duplets, and it's driving me crazy. Now I also remember this video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=woP71V7TMJg

So I need to ask, is there anything else that sounds like it? Late Scriabin definitely has complex rhythms but it's not tonal, and doesn't have the same emotional effect, even though I love late Scriabin. Rachmaninoff's Etudes can also have similar polyrhythms:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WaFiU77kr7s

But I need more. I want that passage played over and over, like a polyrhythmic etude or something, or just even a short passage. Or is Chopin simply unsurpassed?
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>>127667577
the final four or five beethoven piano sonatas?
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>>127667577
>triplets on duplets,
Oh and that's not all, the melody itself has a distinct rhythm, it's nested into triplets but plays on every 4th note in the right hand.
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>>127667588
I know them well, which passage are you referring to? I forgot to mention this >>127667607
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>>127667577
Brahms and Reger have used that technique.
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>>127667577
https://youtu.be/0jZj6Ra2yEk&t=265
kinda
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>>127667577
Define tonality in a way that the man on the street can understand.
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>>127667640
My timestamp is at the beginning of the phrase and there is no polyrhythm there or in the Liszt piece. It's at 09:38. But thanks anyway, gotta listen to more Liszt.
>>127667691
>in a way that the man on the street can understand.
Harmonious.
>b-b-b-but-
That's how a man on the street will understand, trust me. Scriabin is just noise to them.
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>>127667701
I will let you think about it a bit longer.
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>>127667691
it can't be done.
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>>127667712
I don't think I'll bother. Tonality is a spectrum, as is just about everything, especially in music. Simple as.
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>>127667691
my ally is tonality, and a powerful ally it is. interval roots and vectors create it, makes it grow. Its energy surrounds us and binds us. Luminous beings are we, not this crude matter.
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>>127667691
It's one of those you know it when you see it. Like 'lyrical'.
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>>127667837
Correct.
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I'm excited to see my first ever concert. They're playing Strauss and Prokofiev. Anything I should know ahead of time? Some unwritten rules, etiquette? I already know you sit quietly and I have no problem with that. And I'll only clap when others start clapping.
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>>127668211
Cough repeatedly during the climax to annoy as much people as possible. Preferably to get kicked out of the hall. And boo at every occassion
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>>127668211
What are you wearing?
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>>127668250
Skirt
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>>127668211
don't pay a cent for it. I've worked with musicians and I fucking hate them.
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>>127668282
kek wtf
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Your honest opinion on the 18th century lied?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vxYBlixs6Ic
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has anyone tried this set?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pvlb5KayIdQ&list=OLAK5uy_nRYXy00Icyj2cZFEHrtJvIirZMY3lTvEk&index=1

>I am giving Pletnev's efforts five stars because the only alternative is to throw up my hands. There are times when the whole enterprise seems like an elaborate prank--witness the three different tempos that Pletnev applies to the first four bars of the Pastorale before deciding to race off at lightning speed, only to slam on the brakes thrity bars later.

sounds fun
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Ekaterina Derzhavina's Bach
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qf7EHrDWROY&list=OLAK5uy_lKQpWUX4GGc-L4sVBN25FrQo22gXB-KS0&index=28
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>>127668211
1. cough like you have stage 4 lung cancer at every opportunity
2. clap between movements
3. don't put your phone on silent and leave your ringtone on for everyone to hear
4. bring your baby with you to the concert instead of finding a baby sitter so your baby could cry during the concert instead
ive had all four happen in the same concert I attended last week and I deeply appreciate sharing a concert hall with apes. it's not like I would like to enjoy an evening of classical music with the leading orchestra of the country I live in
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>>127668237
> Cough repeatedly during the climax

No, cough during quiet parts.

Also, as a side note I really love Mahler, Stravinsky, and Shostakovitch because most of their stuff is loud enough so fellow concertgoers cannot disturb me even if they tried.
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>>127665382
Here's Chopin Nocturne in c sharp minor for violin and piano. Have never heard this arranged for violin and piano but I like it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T7k2pmKUXxI
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>>127669629
Jesus Christ that's an indulgently spacious tempo, wtf
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>>127662463
>>127662481
>>127662515
>>127662571
>not embracing BABIAA supremacy
NGMI
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Yuja wang
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>>127668437
he makes Mengelberg sound like Toscanini, it's a pretty nutty set
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>>127671238
Yeah, that 6th blew my mind already.
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>>127671253
there's something to be said for the freedom of approach and the ballsiness of the endeavor but i also feel like the approach to tempo rubato is simply too extreme

when Mengelberg and Furtwangler messed around with tempo it was usually done in a way that i would describe as overall cogent, but Pletnev's comes across as attention grabbing, sometimes in a way that's exciting and unique and other ways that just feels like the only goal is to make you go "huh???"
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now playing

start of JS Bach: Keyboard Partita No. 2 in C Minor, BWV 826
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mU2AgJ9GxKg&list=OLAK5uy_npmB6XK4Mu6tnnRp4C2PHTcEmFWUaoqDM&index=2

JS Bach: Toccata in C Minor, BWV 911
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P2TTqdX0B-w&list=OLAK5uy_npmB6XK4Mu6tnnRp4C2PHTcEmFWUaoqDM&index=8

start of JS Bach: Keyboard Partita No. 6 in E Minor, BWV 830
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wIZCRAqCpWg&list=OLAK5uy_npmB6XK4Mu6tnnRp4C2PHTcEmFWUaoqDM&index=8

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_npmB6XK4Mu6tnnRp4C2PHTcEmFWUaoqDM

warning: unabashedly pianistic, romantic Bach
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>>127671363
Also, this pic is making me wanna grow my hair out like that again, damn. yeah yeah, not sure what this has to do, >>>/fa/
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Brahms

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ylrZJ_2Ifqk&list=OLAK5uy_mAy8VkpryHVWzTYEtJ2YyKIHMv7hyZpYE&index=15



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