Since /mu/ doesn't have good music, Let's decide on actually making a good general where we discuss Post punk, Darkwave, Goth rock and even Gothic Metal music and even culture and traditionHere is a good songhttps://youtu.be/HqnFMVkinqQ?si=k9TQ0TpE2dqCck4k
>>127672092goth is slow, boring, and moody besides even if I wanted that I'd just talk to myself in a mirror yeah goth is lame
>>127672114i never gave you permission to talk bitch
>>127672151I don't need your permission to comment retard.
You guys into COX? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CydUEZYADtI
I could go for some Alien Sex Fiend https://youtu.be/_xl7snZaxjc?si=qqoKf4bouvDhjwb9
>>127672092Manson and Nu metal are coolAll this 80s shit sad edition is fucking slop.
For me, it's metal that actually feels kinda goth.https://youtu.be/VzyAly1X63A?si=c3LInaN3wsxVaG9Chttps://youtu.be/VvGKmot9kyM?si=zaJ7sRFNBY4AM6YEhttps://youtu.be/QUhn2D6TF9Y?si=UjteWr_vxSnx7ZaKhttps://youtu.be/Kb69dZHgqsQ?si=yQoSepa-eTcudE7R
>>127673672Malls are gone and you're old.
>>127672092I still dont know what goth music actually is. Is this it? https://youtu.be/keKczJPsuHA
>>127672092I saw Clan of Xymox live in 2023. Ask me anything
Despise these losers attitude
Can't remember the name
>>127674982Were they good? Did they goth all over the stage?
>>127675299Honestly, I think The Bellwether Syndicate who opened stole the show. Very high energy and got people moving.
>>127675362Did you enjoy the show, all things considered? Would you see them again or were they a dud?
>>127675602They were decent live and the audience was very cool, but nothing earthshattering. The band had a rough start on account of a technical error on part of the sound technician failing to connect the guitar and microphone to the loud speakers for Ronny Moorings. He was very frustrated.
Do any of you guys know of anything else that sounds like Plainsong?
If you like Cemetery, 45 Grave, Siouxsie, this is my favorite from this year. There’s some good stuff on that channel but it’s mostly metal https://youtu.be/iRkdmvMPaZ4?feature=shared
Is Neoclassical Darkwave goth adjacent?
I was just on my way to make a Post-Punk thread. What are you all been listening to?
>>127675985Huezilian post-punk
https://youtu.be/oIxcHzNtG0A?feature=shared
>>127672092Some of the Fields of the Nephilim guys from the 80s were making some music during the 2010s that was overlooked. Very Brit goth boomer:https://youtu.be/rLPST6_SsUEAs for current bands, I like Forever Grey and Double Echo.https://youtu.be/HEtlJm-tk3Yhttps://youtu.be/7NgdbmIjUr4>>127674903Malls are the abandoned Victorian mansions of 21st-century goths.
Another Double Echo, jams imohttps://youtu.be/owR64tVWqgoMore random tunes:https://youtu.be/f7VpNjlHfIA>>127675802That's a hard onehttps://youtu.be/gUOYV99_LcE
>>127672092All goth is post-punkAll post-punk isn't goth
>>127672092I want to get into goth rock, do you guys have any albums or bands recommendations for starters?
>>127676623Here is something to get you started:https://youtu.be/RdlNrYmNdQ4 https://youtu.be/yAo42BFos98 https://youtu.be/_uVuzf3q4Zshttps://youtu.be/58XbwXgIcYghttps://youtu.be/Yy9h2q_dr9k
>>127676623Have you heard Disintegration by The Cure? If you have (and you should) then their early 80s trilogy of albums (Seventeen Seconds, Faith, Pornography) are a reliable starting point. Also Joy Division's 2 albums as well. Other good starters...Juju by Siouxsie and the Banshees, Mask by Bauhaus, and First and Last and Always by The Sisters of Mercy.
Bump. Don't let it die
i wanna find more stuff that sounds like this and very early bauhaus. something about how minimalist and stripped down it is is perfect to me
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VbGxVRFTsH0&ab_channel=TheDanseSociety-Topichttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_DFebkDpJnM&ab_channel=NEMO1986NEMO
Rosetta Stone has a new album. They're one of the 1980s Brit goth bands.https://youtu.be/0afB4jE_Lsc
>>127672092https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I5QgDJjJ6Po
Not bad.
>>127672092I love corpus delicti. That's is all. https://youtu.be/xTuFW1tgGnY?si=lumy4oE0n1KmEtLh
>>127674903We just gotta wait for Costco, Walmart, and Ikea to get big enough to become malls 2.0
just listened to the recs, thanks a lot you guys>>127676623I enjoyed the songs and really liked Bauhaus and The Sisters of Mercy, I'm gonna get into those bands after The Cure>>127676643just listened to Disintegration and loved it, I'm gonna listen to early 80s trilogy now
>>127672092
I love her bros
>>127676623we're going strictly 90s midschool, here:>https://youtu.be/xFJfyH5o_vg>https://youtu.be/TosFu8qE8-4>https://youtu.be/un1DhQ0c6v8>https://youtu.be/1pEc8W6dfH0>https://youtu.be/xwfIc-WdZn4>https://youtu.be/LnR16oYv3w0>https://youtu.be/oPx5heFWJlc>https://youtu.be/hbNs_K3AS80
>>127682426>>https://youtu.be/xFJfyH5o_vgIdk who their sound man is but they screwed them. Not bad.
>>127682426>>https://youtu.be/un1DhQ0c6v8Would like to hear the story on that mix.
>>127682426>>https://youtu.be/xwfIc-WdZn4good till vox came on. understandable. realist message.
>>127682602>>127682630It's called "mixed independently in the 90s on analog media and was never remastered years later">>127682658?
>>127679938Fire album cover
>>127680442A really really good track anon
>>127681838Listen to Siouxsie's discography she's greatly accessible yet authentichttps://youtu.be/oUdM4w4cBHM?si=LNR4UoyZspPPPgFVhttps://youtu.be/-TAlS7J9Ofk?si=-paeTG5nUzpqyZ55
West Berlin scene was the besthttps://open.spotify.com/playlist/4r6pnYz14y8ueOzlhy2jwR
Bump this is best thread on the board
AUTO-MODhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-PhgeKVUX0
I love this bandhttps://youtu.be/YqnWCRGmL6A?si=liIm8yx40y8Xznlv
>>127675979>Is Neoclassical Darkwave goth adjacent?If anything stuff like DCD is the most goth music given it's quite literally gothic.
Blessure Grave - Unknown Blessures CS and Judged By Twelve, Carried By Six LP https://youtu.be/jK6XnKWNt8k?list=RDjK6XnKWNt8k
>>127676623Dead Can Dance (first album is particularly classic goth/PP but their later stuff is literal gothic music): https://youtu.be/dTRvluWhgt0?si=DTIkXRnNcf0QlhgnAll of Siouxsie's discography but especially Juju: https://youtu.be/cPzOU9IoXR0?si=unBgXfaVBbwJmp3FCocteau Twins's first three records (much like DCD their later stuff is different but still very much worth listening to): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVx0li_HihkNico's second record (considered to be the album that invented the goth aesthetic and many of its concepts): https://youtu.be/-n8Vqin2H34?si=ihEywiEZOG3hUd9YThe Cure (especially their second-fourth records but again their discog is amazing, god-tier run they had from the late 70s to early 90s): https://youtu.be/4KeII31qyck?si=RSf0e2nZyvqJcc6mAnything Nick Cave: https://youtu.be/9iGxoJnygW8?si=ILgqErbFrLEneJ4u
>>127687833I've loved TBM for just about half of my life at this point. Consistently enjoyable band.
What are some bands that aren't quite goth but almost there? Post-punky and gloomy, dark, but not full blown black everything.The sound and the chameleons get a bit dark but I don't know if real goths would consider them goth.https://youtu.be/ZXfxqM__hwk?si=TYBOZjEO5dm0Ndf_
>>127689806Same, my MSN girlfriend told me about them in like 2005. I got to see them play last year, she can't sing like that live but it was a blast
>>127676623>>127681838Echo and the Bunnymen is also worth a listen.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pu5PWfFmI4I>>127676669Juju is a good album but Tinderbox is what got me hooked for life.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aVrlwJ4f-QI
>>127676669>>127690961The Head on the Door is also an impressive album, especially this often-overlooked gem.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHEy-2Y_s6g
>>127690961Tinderbox is a perfect album. The 1-2 punch of The Sweetest Chill into This Unrest is peak.>>127691059HOTD's not a personal favorite but I'm also not much of a new wave sort. Inbetween Days and Sinking are exceptional songs though.
>>127672092erm isn't /gg/ already taken by guitar and bass general?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VbJmWCuMiEM
https://youtu.be/6KT0ZO0XhCk?si=7l2H0HFmo7lswR0M
Here's some dancey goth stuff with industrial elements, focus on the beat, very catchy, supremely underrated stuff. The Art work begs the question, but I love it.https://youtu.be/D1ICj_4zWE4?list=RDD1ICj_4zWE4
>>127694832>MMhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MwPVhUnFuAY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jIKkwuHRcLc
what's /gg/'s drink combo for the night?
i am a goth music enjoyer.however its telling that 95% of stuff people find to be worth talking about is the same exact stuff i was listening to in high school 20 yrs ago. >>127681838the cure's one of those bands where a lot of their best shit is on random b-sides/singles and shit by the way. if you explore beyond the hits and crowd favorites you will be rewarded.
>>127681838you also have to listen to one of the happy cure albums like kiss me or something to contrast the goth albums to fully understand how much that band owns.
>>127696184Rat poison>>127691801Shhhh
>>127695735They really were an exceptional bandhttps://youtu.be/X7pb9vlXH-w?si=XW_0ZBYYEUFmQX5x
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBP_iAyycDoGoth skramz
recs for anything like this plzhttps://youtu.be/X0Cftwtlho4?si=CZ8-eUjmad9-UeNu
>>127697325I knew it was Fuckmorgue before clicking on the link. They were one of many Manitoba bands that should've been bigger than they were.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Md69F-2wQ0E
>>127672092What do anonymity recommend for making Goth Metal digitally? What VSTs are essential?
>>127681838the sisters of mercy are one of the best, you have great taste anon, i highly recommend listening to all of First And Last And Always in a single sitting (possibly while walking down the street at night in all black)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6PRbxMs0BA
This is really good deathrock no link on youtube though
>>127696314>I'm a goth enjoyer >95 percent of what people talk about is stuff I listened to 20 years ago I think you'll find that most genres usually have the big dogs who dominate discussion. They're just so apart of the zeitgeist and synonymous with the genre. Like if you say thrash then most people will think the big 4. If you think prog rock then bands like pink floyd, king crimson, yes. Psychedelic rock then the doors, jimi hendrix, pink floyd, and later beatles. You'd have to really be into the genre to get to the deep cuts and the b or c tier stuff
>>127675802vibes wise, you might like thesehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1EdUjlawLJMhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NDJHfe2sklI&https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4cvO36WnyAQhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azpgFemktHg
>>127672092bump
>>127674903Most malls are still around, though obviously the 2000s alt stores are mostly gone.There's two stores zoomer mallgoths hang out that now and it's a tiny music/movie store that also sell meme t-shirts and funko pops, and then the video game store that also sells anime merch, as well as funko pops. You can still buy a Misfits chain wallet though. Misfits chain wallet is the heart and soul of mallgoth.
>>127672092Why do people listen to darkwave in SEPTEMBER? hello? I strictly save darkwave and dungeon synth for november-feburary.
Zoomer and TikTok Goths are better than 30+ fetish people with weird hobbies and shit music taste. The original Goth scene was pretty tame, mainstream and aimed at people between 15 and 25, and had nothing to do with weird kinks. Everybody knew about Cure back then.
>>127702588Were The Cure really that big of a deal pre-Japanese Whispers? I feel like it's the Head/Kiss Me/Disintegration era that shot them into stardom.
>>127703091maybe in the US. In Europe Boys Don't Cry became really popular, and Goth fashion and music was a popular trend for teenagers already in the early 80s
>>127703128Fair enough. I have to remember that the band existed before Seventeen Seconds sometimes.
>>127672092Thoughts on Cemetery Skyline? A really enjoyable supergroup with members of Dark Tranquility, Insomnium, Amorphis, Dimmu Borgir and Sentencedhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QSC-fWZ0Hn8https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMmusIBVfYQDT also did a few goth rock songs with no harsh vocalshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4IIaVFuZ7Qhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EjiTXPkcemQhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2LgfKl0Gwkohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fz4V51qFB5E
Rate my stuff niggashttps://soundcloud.com/godsfinestscalpel/charlie-kirk-dead-at-31-2
>>127703423hold on let him cook
You guys must listen to Rowland S Howard
I feel like My Dying Bride deserves more goth, or at least "gothic" cred. Sure, they're a death/doom metal band through and through, but their sensibilities are so overwhelmingly "gothic" in nature. I mean, listen to this shit:https://youtu.be/phfpBeW4Smo?si=mm21XyzSaOIEeBtPhttps://youtu.be/TR9BNdZKdHA?si=aceFOqgGquEsW1zzhttps://youtu.be/EVBj1G7ywCE?si=8TqouDThMY4EfeUZI can understand not calling them "goth" but there's an undeniable appreciation of the "gothic" in their music.
>>127707370I thought they are considered the quintessential goth metal band like Paradise Lost
>>127707370I mean Blutengel is goth taken to its most ludicrous cliches and it's electronic pop music. Gothic is really more of an aesthetic sensibility that comes out of Romanticism.
>>127708237That's probably Type O Negative on a surface level. They probably had the most potent mix of visibility/acknowledgement and actual cred. My Dying Bride never really had the same career launch as Paradise Lost or Anathema, they have the cred but not the visibility.
>>127709643Anathema were never really goth besides their second and 3rd album and they quickly moved to alternative/prog rock
>>127709958Serenades has Sleepless on it though.
I like Drab Majesty.
>>127709958No they're gothic, Gothic essence
>>127703234They were super popular in the UK before getting more popular in Europe and the U.S/Asia
https://youtu.be/5EEUh5vaT8E?si=8Mu9hrtAO8ewbrbbRowland Howard is better than Nick Cave
>>127699544>deathrock>goth without the goth and all the gay and lame American /hor/ shitpass
>>127672169I was listening to this earlier in the day. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RmuqzvL6s6M&list=RDRmuqzvL6s6M&start_radio=1
>>127708374>Gothic is really more of an aesthetic sensibility that comes out of Romanticism.>>127676313>Malls are the abandoned Victorian mansions of 21st-century goths.Samefagging but I think you really have to go to the excess with gothic music. It's part of a whole theatrical and aesthetic package. A big thing with Romanticism was emphasizing emotion, passion and the irrational in contrast to Enlightenment rationalism. Gothic will tend to resist attempts to categorize itself mechanically, it's more about mood. Sonically this is an electronic pop group but no one would dispute that it's goth:https://youtu.be/sfN6kRAd2bQThis a sticker, more organic, more longstanding artistic tradition in Western societies. You could turn the "mall goth" cliche around today and have it in abandoned shopping malls. There was a whole fascination in 19th-century gothic literature with haunted castles and cathedrals. There's something about these big buildings from the past and fallen into disrepair that is fascinating to people and makes a great setting for gothic art, it creates some sense of an uncanny otherworld:https://youtu.be/tfp0Ip0FcZo
>>127710325I like that song "39 By Design" about the Heaven's Gate cult.Here's a band from Iceland:https://youtu.be/9UtKIPS9sP4
