Are they the heaviest band ever still?don't be mad at a group of 90s white kid nazis btw
>>127708129Fuck you talking about zoomer pleb
>>127708129No
>>127708129"Heavy" is such a inconvenient and unreliable way to categorize musicWhat is "heavy", is it Fast? Aggressive? Slow? Dissonant? Controversial? EtcA lot of the bands that I see categorized as "heaviest ever" are Tech Death bands with loud bass and burping noises for vocals, in reality they sound lighter than Sum 41, I don't understand what's "heavy" about themFurthermore, I'm convinced that the heaviest music in the world isn't even metal
>>127708763I mostly listen to electronic music, which is largely abstract, if not for the qualities that we can associate with things in real life, almost purely by similarity.To me, in these abstract contexts, the feeling of heaviness is often associated with prominent low frequencies (at least relative to the highs) and with slow-moving large-feeling sounds. Kinda like you'd imagine a very large being/thing to be.To me a high speed gives the opposite feeling of "heavy", at least when it comes to the main elements.Even if not as "traditionally" metal, this song is the heaviest-feeling metal one I can think of:https://youtu.be/4FEfRgMHg44Or maybe this:https://youtu.be/1UR3YjktJYINow listen to this:https://youtu.be/yXjRpCRcOcgAs cheesy as it (and its transformers noises) sounds, its drop/chorus feels extremely heavy to me.Most metal doesn't even come close (even modern tech death like Archspire or Infant Annihilator or something), to the point where if I listened to electronic music that day, I won't enjoy metal until I palate-cleanse or something. It will just feel too "light". Kinda like being massaged by a strong person who's hitting all the right spots, then switching to a frail old lady who's barely touching you.But I think that's mostly a matter of frequency content (electronic music tends to have a ton of sub-bass, which is intrinsically very heavy-feeling).The Doom (2016) soundtrack, which was produced using a lot of electronic music techniques and practices, also feels much heavier than pretty much all metal.I guess "heavy" can also refer to the mood (as in "heavy heart"), but then it's just sad songs of any genre.Or maybe it's a sort of mix of sonic heaviness + dark vibe?
>>127708145all shit aside aside I'm prettyu sure Infester is heavier than whatever you had.
infester isn't that heavy. even contemporaneously, i'd give it to neurosis. now we have things like last days of humanity, mortician, devourment. I still love infester though, they are musical.
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>>127708763I'm trying to like Archspire but I just can't. 200bpm for 5 minutes doesn't work for me. The most technical dm band I like is Beneath the Massacre, they have plenty of melody and groove in comparison.
I have some slower DM for you, 2 of the 4 are instrumentals. >>127708873 Also Skin Ticket rules, one of my favorites from Slipknot, alongside Purity and Prosthetics.https://youtu.be/EsPm4BXx1NAhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2JeV-xpW57whttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cRv2XY99EvYhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PO97oI8Hw9M
>>127708763I think the heaviest is slow. Literally Cop by Swans is one of the heaviest albums ever, not metal
>>127708763>what is heavyhttps://youtu.be/n8Pee36yf4Mhttps://obscenedeathmetal.bandcamp.com/track/watch-me-when-i-killhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SIRUzqHTNh8
>>127713918>https://youtu.be/n8Pee36yf4M [Embed]i enjoy
>>127708129Not at all. Hell, Incantation was heavier.
>>127713994https://youtu.be/969wFimtpCoWe love Infester around these /mu/ parts
>>127713918What about this https://bodyvoid.bandcamp.com/album/bury-me-beneath-this-rotting-earth-3
>>127714203that's tight. i like this.
>>127714203>>127714237reminds me of iskra https://youtu.be/VPr79rhnlOI?si=LgHkiYTWOYt6mMiH
That Infester album was the darkest thing to have been released by that time, I don't know about heavy. But they pretty much set out to make the sickest music and then disappear, kind of a joke band.
>>127714292I'm pretty sure Dan Swano still chats with them.
>>127714310>>127714292>>127714273>>127714203i also consider this heavyhttps://youtu.be/w-Uz0HY0QQo?list=RDw-Uz0HY0QQo
>>127708873>The Doom (2016) soundtrack, which was produced using a lot of electronic music techniques and practices, also feels much heavier than pretty much all metal.That's literally industrial metal, there's lots of industrial metal heavier than that ost
>>127716095you're talking to a goof that basically said ''video game metal is heavier than metal''just shrug and move on
>>127708129Nah but Infester fucking rules.>>127708763Fag.
>>127708763"heavy" is a misunderstood term, originally it just refers to the riff of a guitar "feeling so heavy you cant lift it", feeling dense essentiallya good example is electric funeral by black sabbath: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4aJT2p2_pDkthe beginning a very slow and dense, heavy riff appears and keeps putting a lot of pressure in the environment with its thick atmosphere.heavy means slow moving and hard to breathe essentially.nowadays it just means anything thats loud and "badass" or "brutal"
>>127708763According to my conception of heavy it'd be something like Burning Witch, Khanate, or Corrupted, heavy to me is weight/tension + release. Mammoth riffs moving on a geological scale. I know it's different for other people but I came up through doom metal as a teenager so that's what it is for me. Stuff that incorporates a lot of feedback https://youtu.be/22KyTLHFizkhttps://youtu.be/mmsReye4pKkhttps://youtu.be/PhJmQ2f-DgkSomething like this is a prototypical form of that kind of Doom heaviness, the same sonic titan tectonic feel, lots of tension in the groove toohttps://youtu.be/eEE_ncKoCzoI like death metal too but to me it's more brutal than heavy, which is a different experience but still good in its own right. I think what death metal fans call heaviness is what I'd call brutality. Still the breakdown in Autopsy's in the Grip of Winter is one of the all-time great heavy moments but they're pretty doom influenced anyway. The opinion of coreshitters isn't even worth discussing
>>127716262ayo, I'm really digging the Stillborn song. Burning Witch huh? nice, this is cool
I think a lot about heaviness in music. The word heavy is still alive, it hasn't been exhausted quite yet, which means it's an aesthetic under evolution. Words are born, they live and evolve, and then they die. Like "noise"- it was first an insult, then a scientific term, then a genre, then a descriptor of other genres. Genres themselves are living things, and heaviness is defined per genre. The heaviness of sludge metal is not the heaviness of funeral doom. The heaviness of goregrind is not the heaviness of brutal death metal. The heaviness of slam is not the heaviness of deathcore. And you can't really rank them against each other meaningfully. Like if you play Khanate to someone who just finished listening to Centurian, it just won't make sense. Things get mixed differently, big lower mid tones in Khanate are filtered out to allow for the precision of the kick drum in Centurian. They are mutually exclusive.
>>127716435and these are just technical descriptors of sound. Emotional heaviness is a whole other world. Like the torment in the vocals of Bethlehem, the alienation of Paysage D'Hiver and Xasthur, The spiritual terror of Reverorum Ib Malacht. Thantifaxath is crushingly existentially heavy in the same way that Neurosis is, but the sound is almost opposite. Neurosis seems intuitively composed whereas Thantifaxath is closer to something like Hindemuth.
But in metal, you get these outlier projects, sometimes they yield imitator genres like Suffocation and Incantation, sometimes they just remain singular like Infester or Enmity. Metal is a beautiful thing.
>>127716435>>127716489nice blog, how do i unsubscribe?
>>127716516im waxing my pole, you can come back after im done
>>127716299Yeah I seriously think they're the best doom metal band after Sabbath. It's Stephen O'Malley from Sunn O))) on guitar before that band was ever formed, he has so many great projects but I think Burning Witch was the best one. Listen to all of Crippled Lucifer (10 track not 7 version) and also check out Khanate which is another O'Malley project but even more extreme in its use of space and bending of time
>>127708129Gotta go with Type O Negative for the conventional "always heavy" band.
>>127716516Shut up he's saying some interesting things
>>127716095Heavier sonically, as per the description in the earlier parts of the post?Could you give me some examples please?>>127716132It being a videogame soundtrack is irrelevant. Production-wise it's essentially electronic music, with the sonic heaviness of electronic bass music. The guy did a pretty interesting talk about the production techniques he used.Other metal songs/genres can be heavier in other ways, but to my (admittedly limited) knowledge, not in the way I discussed in my post.If you have any track that sounds heavier in that way, please post it.
>>127717313love type o but their production makes them airy light even when they're playing the sludgiest evil riffs
>>127717313>>127717757problem? https://youtu.be/stjOxJuZfx4
>>127717773nah not really i love both carnivore and type o, i just wouldn't say they're very heavy
>>127708129No, they were some b-tier Death metal band that gained internet notoriety because of their obscurity
Dumb anime poster strikes again
>>127716216Nigger
>>127708129I can tell they're not heavy cause of the guy on the left making "le so random" meme face
>>127708129so who is the band in the OP?
