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Who are some artists people have to pretend to like because they’re black?
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Kendrick Lamar
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Lauryn Hill
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>>127725023
pic unrelated
i actually like her because i find her sexy for some reason
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I genuinely am a big Billie Holiday, although I prefer Helen Merrill. Vocal jazz is an incredible genre.
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Stevie Wonder, Al Green, Bill Withers all sound the same desu
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>>127725023
I don't know. Post some examples of people pretending to like artists because they're black first so we know what it looks like.
>>127725138
>desu
hello newfren
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>>127725023
B.B. King
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>>127725138
>people pretend to like these amazing songwriters
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All the Jazz genre?
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>>127725363
only /mu/ jazz.
the rest actually has value.
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>>127725133
>although I prefer Helen Merrill
95 and still alive.
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Jimi Hendrix
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>>127725288
unfair and also zoomer spotted
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every black 'rockstar'
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anyone that whites can project their magical negro fantasies onto. john coltrane's been getting this a lot lately.
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>>127725023
i never figure out how Christgau worships BH but he got completely filtered by Nina Simone who did similar "sadgirl black jazz singer" schtick. at least he was right that "Strange Fruit" is an obnoxious, preachy song that should be forgotten.
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>>127725855
it's cause he's a bad critic
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>>127725288
>>127725838
grand wizard KKK members loved bb king and coltrane so i'm not sure about these two. those crackalackas were the final bosses of racism and even they couldn't resist the masters of jazz and blues
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>>127725855
Simone was more showtune than jazz, but also she was really fucking ugly while the young version of Billie was cute.
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>>127725855
they have completely different timbre and technique retard
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>>127725855
Please stick to whatever not music you consider music
>>127725884
She combined showtunes along with blues and gospel a lot more often, some of her stuff is barely jazz unless she's doing piano improv at the same time too
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>>127725855
Strange Fruit is the same deal as Old Man River, it is a Jewish songwriter decrying pogroms in Russia and thinly disguising it as a song about black oppression.
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>>127725855
you're gonna have to post some examples
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>>127725855
was that before or after Simone sent him a death threat for giving Baltimore a B minus?
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>>127725917
>Simone sent him a death threat
based
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>>127725412
>>127725877
i just feel like his success is more about being old wise fat black man than an exceptional blues guy
he's earned it of course, it's part of the artistry, but if it were entirely about the music, he wouldn't be as far ahead of the very good singers and guitarists out there as he is in fame
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Baltimore [CTI, 1978]
Carried along on David Matthews's uncharacteristically infectious arrangement, Simone's version of one of Randy Newman's more perfunctory American-names songs is a glorious fluke on the order of Baez's "Night They Drove Old Dixie Down." I'm glad, though, that it's available as a single, because unlike owner-annotator Creed Taylor I don't find that Simone's "magnificent intensity . . . turns everything--even the most simple, mundane phrase or lyric--into a radiant, poetic message." On the contrary, her penchant for the mundane renders her intensity as bogus as her mannered melismas and pronunciation (move over, Inspector Clouseau) and the rote flatting of her vocal improvisations. There are several good cuts here; the song selection is often inspired (Hurley-Witkins's "The Family," perfect). But a woman who not only avoids coming out with the "bitch" in "Rich Girl" but hobbles the rhythm as well has real problems. B-
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>>127725023
Just go look at the top rated albums of the last 10 years on RYM
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>>127725940
although nobody doubts that King was more marketable and accessible than Muddy or Wolf, he really never made a bad record in his prime and Live at The Regal and Live at Cook County Jail are rightly regarded as landmark albums of the format
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>>127725932
the Stranglers also threatened him
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>>127725957
Honestly I got filtered by Wolf more than anything because his voice is an acquired taste and even admirers will admit to that.
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>>127725855
he said he always distrusted Simone for having been a failed classical singer who went pop to make a living
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>>127726016
so feefees over hard evidence, sounds like cuckgau
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>>127725983
>I got filtered by Wolf
What even do you like, anon?
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>>127726045
It's music criticism, not science. It's all feelings. Bitch. I don't even like Christgau.
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Simone did the most famous by far version of "The Laziest Gal In Town." It's not as good as the version a youthful Georgia Gibbs did with the Freddie Trumbauer Orchestra all the way back in 1940 (hers was literally the first recording of the song too).
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>>127726073
not true but okay
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>>127726070
that's someone else. i agree with you btw.
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>>127725983
was that like the review of The Backdoor Wolf where Cuckgau had to get in an obligatory shot at Stephen Stills?
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>>127726087
I actually think Wolf's voice can be quite pleasing to listen to sometimes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=60ONI8-ee-M
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>>127726107
it's not as if Stills didn't suck cock. well ok he could play guitar pretty well but that was all he had in skills.
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>>127726109
i like it, i don't find it weird at all, he makes it work.
as far as singers go i like this guy
https://youtu.be/PSmqA_ISX9E
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>>127726160
>T-Bone Walker
I'm aware of him because he's such a famous film music guy now, but I have never listened to his old stuff. I definitely will someday.
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>>127726131
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>>127726257
cocaine is a hell of a drug
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This is now a blues thread
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2yPOl__CeXE
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>>127725049
this seems to be the case a lot.
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>>127725838
Coltrane is a good sax player but come on
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>>127725023
jimi hendrix



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