What is considered good production for metal?
>>127776442No everyone is bitching about the production even though the song writing is still great
Mental Vortex has good production. It's well recorded and mixed, but isn't brickwalled sample-replaced ampsim assembly line garbage.
>>127776470Is it >No,or>Not???
>>127776608I read the OP wrong, I meant the first one
>>127776442There is no consensus. Some people insist on everything sounding raw and say Rust in Peace is too polished even though it is more in the middle of the road as far as polishedness.
>>127776442over-compression is annoying and is fatiguing even after a few minutes, which is why remasters normally suck compared to original masters. also, the guitar tones on old metal releases were much more memorable and had more character. all these modern bands opt for more forgettable tones in their instruments for some reason. probably all these dumbass modern producers who feel as though they've "solved" something, whereas a lot of the producers back in the early days of metal would take more chances since they were all finding their way in the dark regarding how to make metal sound good. modern metal production in a nutshell: "bigger" sound, but less bite, if at all.
it's not about production
>>127776442Is it clean? Can your hear and enjoy every instrument? Less importantly but also significant, does it serve the purpose of the album (but that's really for the prod magicians).As a sound tech you don't really have a lot of leverage over the prod, you're limited by your gear (mics, amps, consoles, etc.). The most you can do is record and mix properly, then the result is what it is.As long as the album is enjoyable it's fine, really it's up to the band to express what they want the best (their tone, their riffs, their "vibes", etc.).
>>127777257You believe it's all intentional, but modern equipment is like that. Old equipment was zesty, now yeah it's digital, it's clean cut and sanitised. Not just the production tools but the devices with which you store and listen to the music.
I excused the production thinking it was a byproduct of being a leak or MP3 encode, but if that's what I'm supposed to hear on the final product, that's bad even by the standards of modern, big label metal production. It sounds weirdly noisy.>>127776470>even though the song writing is still greatNo, not really. Riffs are mild too.
>>127776442Pic although metalfags probably don't even consider it metal.
The opposite of whatever the fuck is going on on this albumhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GcZ98eS8JR0
>>127776442if it sounds like it was recorded in a toilet after the band just stayed up til 7am on a coke binge
>>127776442The generic sound you hear now used to be good metal production until literally everyone started doing it and now it sounds hollow, uninspired, and indistinguishable from the rest. It is the production equivalent of Nirvana putting an end to Hair Metal, only to be followed up by obvious rip offs that can't even do the sound well, like Seether or Puddle of Mudd.
changes per genre, a tremendous amount. here's some of my favorites:Death Metal - Nothingness- The Hollow Gaze of Death - I love how rich and full the guitars are. This is how I wish deathcore sounded. It's a very 90s rock sound.NWOSDM - Drawn and Quartered - Hail Infernal Darkness- picks up the sounds of Morbid Angel Heretic and makes a very consistent warm dense albumFuneral Doom - Evoken - Antithesis Of Light - love the overtones in the guitars, they carry the compositionsBlack Metal - Sargeist - Let The Devil In - warm production where I can hear the guitar dyadsRaw Black Metal - Wulkanaz - Wulkanaz - very uncompressed, homemade, bedroom recording, tape. I want to curl up inside this albumBlackened Death Metal- Abyssal - Antikatastaesis- Extremely dense, sounds different on every playback deviceFrench Black Metal- Passeisme- Alternance- almost sounds like mathcore, serves the compositionsSlam - Esophagus- Inglorious Beings - the discomforting mix of very quiet ambience and the sub-moronic singing and playing is perfectionCaverncore - Malthusian - Across Deaths - the warmth and dual vocals, I really wish more bands would do this stuffBrutal Death Metal- Devourment- Obscene Majesty- huge and dense
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>>127776442if you can hear the bass
>>127776442It's fine but the songs are meh anyway
>>127781549not with all that god-awful clipping even by metal standards. drought and synarchy are even worse
>>127779917Literally the only thing metalfags are good at is knowing what is and what isn't metal so they're probably correct
>>127784721lol good one
>>127785272lol good one
>>127776442Finland have metal on lock with production and performance, really no argumentActually embarrassing to represent metal in the kek United States, there is none representation that doesn't tell on itself
>>127785396>FinlandAlmost entirely derivative slop, despite producing thousands of bands.
>>127785657You probably listen to metalcore lmao. Stfu you fitly poser
>>127785727Cope.
My production tends to converge to that boring mix these days because I feel if the tone stands out too much then people are like oh it's like that because he's shit at mixing. I have guitar tracks that are not DIs so any character I want to add to them is basically with EQ only.
