"Prog rock is inherently socialistic" editionWhat is Progressive Rock?>https://rateyourmusic.com/genre/progressive-rock/Good albums to start with?>https://www.musicgenretree.org/essential_prog.pngObscure prog gems>https://rateyourmusic.com/list/antonbildern/a-secret-society-obscure-progressive-rock-albums/Previous: >>127697237
>>127777214Except with a better singer and guitarist
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Rr7dYx5Ny4
/prog/ is back bros
The New Sound > Cavalcade > Schlagenheim > Hellfireq
>>127778266Communism is so cringe and lame. What good prog rock ever came from a communist country? Oh right, they don't allow people to make art.
reminder that frank zappa was cursed by God for taking the 80s bands on tour
Apparently one of the members of the Cardiacs is a Magma enjoyer.
>>127781185it's like ranking turds
>>127781695I bet you like Marillion
>>127781185The New Sound > Schlagenheim > Hellfire > Cavalcade
Happy 44th
>>127781744Neo-prog is much more soulful than Geordie and his cynical pastiche of avant prog that appeals to hipsters and not people who enjoy prog
>>127781772Fun fact: my dad was in college when this came out, and he and his friend rigged the school newspaper's AOTY readers poll to make Abacab #1.
>>127781788Lmao, clocked. Enjoy your butt-prog.
>>127781378what
>>127781744What does that have to do with anything?
>>127781852I thought butt prog is stuff like Tool and Dream Theater
Robert Wyatt is BASEDand he's still ALIVE
>>127781898Commies can't be based
>Stake a Lizard by the throatwhat a fucking psychopathdid PETA ever confront him about this
>>127781923That's where you are wrong, bucko.
People will shit on black midi and then praise king crimson even though a significant amount of the time they sound very similar
>>127782137Funny, because according to Greep the founder of Rough Trade told black midi that they were the closest thing in spirit to the original lineup King Crimson he had ever seen.
>>127782137Steven Wilson's Raven feels like a genuine love letter to the 70s style of prog and shows surprisingly lot of emotion even though people accuse his music of being sterile, the excellent musicianship by guests also carries the album Black Midi music is also well performed and sounds like something KC would make but it doesn't sound genuine, as it clearly comes from people who have more shallow knowledge of prog musicWhy was one album panned or ignored by Fantano type hipsters while they praised the other? It's like prog for people who don't like prog
>>127781891Marillion was the first full-on butt prog band after Rush invented the genre.>>12778226670s prog bands didn't know anything about prog as a genre either so that isn't really relevant to the music's quality.
>>127782307>hating on RushI bet you got filtered by his voice
>>127782324I like Rush though. People in these threads are so touchy, jesus christ.
>>127782307>70s prog bands didn't know anything about prog as a genre eitherTrue but they had knowledge of other genres such as classical or jazz
>>127782344It just gets tiring when people shit on your favorite artists constantly for superficial reasons, I guess I just still didn't get used to it
>>127782348So you think black midi and Greep had no knowledge of any experimental music at all? Seems unlikely given their output is so clearly influenced by jazz, post-punk and various prog subgenres.
>>127781898Meh, I don't think so. I'd appreciate him more if he just played the drums and didn't sing.
>>127782370They definitely do, I just think that they are not genuine, I might just be projecting though.>>127782375His vocals are definitely not great but they grew on me and he really shows emotion in some tracks
>>127781898he's absolutely basedbrilliant musicianhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=REDKI6SfvtQ
>>127782463eat your heart out smash mouthhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87Tbk2Ay6Zo
So what are some other modern prog bands similar to King Crimson? From what I checked most throwback bands are inspired by Yes, Genesis or Pink Floyd
>Yeshippie nonsense>Genesistheatre kid core>King Crimsonautism>Jethro Tullminstrel slop>ELPindustry plant circus music>Magmanazi autism>Gongautistic hippie nonsense>Gentle Giantautistic minstrel slop>Caravanfusion wannabes>Soft Machinebeatnik slop>Camelcigar-funded circus music>Renaissanceorchestral hippie nonsense>Focusdumb yodelling>VDGGschizoemoslop
Who gave him the pipe?
>>127781440respect
>>127782769Garfield
>>127782137>they sound very similaryeah it's called being rip-offs and hacks, even though they sound more like return to forever
>>127782137People will shit on marillion and then praise genesis even though a significant amount of the time they sound very similar
>>127782831Only Fish era albums sound like Genesis
>>127782860Do people shit on them?
Just found out Pink Floyd's Breathe was inspired by Miles Davis and used a chord from Kind of Blue, pretty neat
>>127782932Dave couldn't help but rip off other musicians while Roger's lyrics are deeply originalRoger wins once again
Borrowing ideas or even whole songs from other musicians is not ripping them off. That's just how art works.
>>127783022nice try but rap still isn't music
>>127781200Lots of Slav prog nuggets, for those who care to listen>>127782192Holy cringe >>127782367Geddy Lee’s banshee shrieks are anything but superficialRush with an actual singer would have gone mainstream, not just remain a nerdy cult >>127782497Anglagard >>127782831Misunderstood/underrated humorous bait
>>127783022But where did the first artist get his stuff from
More prog punk
>>127783048The wind, the birds, heartbeats, and etc
>>127782932Richard Wright used to play a lot of jazz instruments like sax and trumpet so he has that background, and Roger Waters is also a big Miles fan so it was a natural source of influence for the band
love Roger AND Gilmourlove Wyatthate Ratledgehate Fripphate Bankssimple as
>>127782860And only half of Genesis albums sound lile Genesis
>>127783234love them all, even if some of them act retarded
Kayleigh is one of the best love songs of all time and I'm tired of pretending it's notName a better prog love song https://youtu.be/GA4ROLQF4cs?si=e48v1j7qcRhB6v4Z
>>127781898Ratledge bros, our response?>>127782884I think people used to on the grounds that it's derivative. I don't think something being derivative is necessarily a bad thing, and I like the Fish era albums, but it is a complaint I have seen.
Steve Rothery is one of the best guitarists in prog
>>127784786https://youtube.com/watch?v=P3pzX5iKFsk
Just listened to the Super Deluxe edition of Fragile released in 2024, and it's still perfect. God, I love this album.
It's funny how they are playing songs from the era before either of them were in the band
>>127785246???Colin appeared on the first real Porcupine Tree album, and became a full-fledged member of the band on the next one. Nobody apart from Steven himself has a better claim to the Delirium years than Colin, Richard, and Chris.
Just posting my favorite songhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xggb4yAlZgk
>>127783022>t.
>>127782932Rick was very heavily influenced by Bill Evans (and Monk). You can really hear him trying to mimick Evans.
Lsd is out
>>127786260he's pointing at us
I don't think Vennart really fits the style of cardiacs
Whichever anon recommended Fates Warning, big thanks. I actually just started at the front of their discography last night because the first album had a cool cover and people in the reviews were saying they're basically an Iron Maiden tribute band at first which sounded sweet. I'm on Disconnected now and really liked everything by them so far. Perfect Symmetry has been my favorite, closely followed by Parallels.
>>127786562He's actually pointing at Waters and Banks
>>127787186You're welcome, I wish people talked about them more compared to other prog metal bandsIf you liked the albums with Arch I also recommend his solo EP Twist of Fate and the 2 albums he did with FW Guitarist Jim Matheoshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eVL36KtLbf8https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IwcL04CYewshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WD3ip2__tZcAlder also did 2 solo albums but I didn't think they were very interestinghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zA80VmzsCNk
>>127783044>>127781200Omega, Czeslaw Nieman and Indexi are all iron curtain prog gems
>>127781185
Going to go see Trettioåriga Kriget live next Thursday, along with some prog band I haven’t heard of before.They’re quite good and their influence on Änglagård is noticeable.
>>127787387>Trettioåriga Kriget live next Thursdayholyshit they're still going? nicehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i83A-iLGLKM
What Jethro Tull album should I listen to next? I've listened to Aqualung, TaaB and Songs from the Wood a lot, and really like them all
>>127787632RIP.double live albumthough wait a minute, early Tull can be good. This Was
>>127787768Stand Up is my favorite
I think I like this more than any Floyd, Gensis, Yes, or Crimson release I’ve heard so far
>>127787632I like Minstrel In The Gallery>>127789024It's a good album
>>127789024It’s good but moonmadness and the snow goose are better.That being said they’re not better than KC or Yes
Bros I think I can't into progI've heard>pawn hearts>in the wake of poiseidon>in the court of the crimson king>starless and bible black>the division bell>dark side of the moon>the wall>mekanik destruktiw>ehmentehhte-re>udu wuud>aqualung>the perfect element>journey to the centre of the earth>time and a wordOut of those, I only liked The Wall, Journey and The Perfect ElementAm I just listening to bad bands/albums or is prog not for me?
>>127790449If you liked Journey To The Center of The Earth you should probably check out Yes and maybe some other of the more symphonic bands like Genesis or Camel. Prog isn't going to necessarily be for everyone but like jazz it's a very broad genre, and I truly believe everyone can find something from it they like.I'm curious what you liked about The Wall, given you didn't like DSOTM, since the latter is probably the most accessible Pink Floyd album(though personally The Wall is my favorite).If you like the more narrative albums, you might also like Jeff Wayne's Musical Version of War of The Worlds.
>>127790576I did like Dark Side, just not as much as The WallI know I really enjoy concept albums, War of the Worlds is my favourite album of all time but I didn't put it because I wasn't sure if it counted as progOperation Mindcrime is another favouriteI just have a really hard time with the insane craziness of instrumental sections in KC and VDGG songs, even though I love meandering noodling like what Neil Young does
>>127790591>Operation MindcrimeListened to this while building my PC over the summer.
>>127787632Heavy Horses
>>127790449Nursery cryme, Foxtrot, Selling England, The Lamb
Currently listening to Dave Newhouse
>>127790449If you didn't enjoy the listed selections then prog is not the genre for you.
Camel - A Live Record. My favorite live album.
Drip Drip
>>127789024>song ends with a can opened and pouring soundsC-tier for that alone
Do you like Phil Collins? I've been a big Genesis fan ever since the release of their 1980 album, Duke. Before that, I really didn't understand any of their work. Too artsy, too intellectual. It was on Duke where Phil Collins' presence became more apparent. I think Invisible Touch was the group's undisputed masterpiece. It's an epic meditation on intangibility. At the same time, it deepens and enriches the meaning of the preceding three albums. Listen to the brilliant ensemble playing of Banks, Collins and Rutherford. You can practically hear every nuance of every instrument. In terms of lyrical craftsmanship, the sheer songwriting, this album hits a new peak of professionalism. Take the lyrics to Land of Confusion. In this song, Phil Collins addresses the problems of abusive political authority. In Too Deep is the most moving pop song of the 1980s, about monogamy and commitment. The song is extremely uplifting. Their lyrics are as positive and affirmative as anything I've heard in rock. Phil Collins' solo career seems to be more commercial and therefore more satisfying, in a narrower way. Especially songs like In the Air Tonight and Against All Odds. But I also think Phil Collins works best within the confines of the group, than as a solo artist, and I stress the word artist. This is Sussudio, a great, great song, a personal favorite.
Giles, Giles and (He Who Shall Not Be Named)
+What else should I listen to if I liked Crime Of The Century?
>>127791443I love Comus so much, bros.
>>127787229Smak is also great but they're more fusion most of the time. Pic related is my fav album of all time
>>127790449>division bell
>>127787632if you want more like Aqualung's rock tunes, listen to Minstrel in the Galleryif you want more like Aqualung's folksier side, listen to the Living in the Past compilationif you want more like TAAB, listen to A Passion Playif you want more like Songs from the Wood, listen to Heavy Horsesif you want something simpler and bluesier, listen to Stand Up or Benefit
>>127778266I prefer Lilys.https://youtu.be/Z-PYICGi1c4?si=PeucD7ygXrcJbwgvhttps://youtu.be/AKEIJA0iQzA?si=eMPL3KMH9uuTz1KY
>>127791388I'm more of a Mike Oldfield guy myself
>>127783234Based were the same if you add >hate Steve Wilson
>>127792674Oh, Heather, our little Phil’s a bit of a Wilson hater.
>>127792837You fuck....you fuck....
What does /mu/ think of Sleeping Pandora?Any other prog rock like them you'd recommend?Love me some chill out prog.
>>127792837>>127792935It was from his KWAB reaction that I've stop respecting him and don't listen to him anymore.
>>127792612Last album, best album
>>127791454You’re right it should have been a bong rip and a cough
>>127791443DIANA DIANA KICK YOUR FEET UP
>>127791443This is one of those albums that will leave you with an unscratchable itch. There is really nothing quite like it. The closest I've come to this vibe is a some weird Satanist/Wiccan folk music albums from the 60s and 70s I've heard.
>>127793874>not a lighter flick and an exhaleCan't believe those tobacco execs pestering the band lost to Big Booze in the end
>>127793984It’s not progressive at all but the first Exuma album scratches that kind of itch
>>127794003They should put on a Joe Camel costume for their live performances I agree
>>127794008Too African for me, but that came to mind when I was thinking about this. Very pagan and forward thinking folk music
>>127794075I feel like I’m the only guy that enjoys both prog and reggae to the same degree, shame there wasn’t more crossover when both genres were at their respective peaks
>>127794135I may have worded that poorly. I love Exuma's first album and his other stuff is pretty good. I just meant the vibe is different from Comus. I like Afro-Caribbean music a lot actually like Junkanoo, Reggae, Calypso and other stuff. A lot of it is very interesting rhythmically. Also, old school dub is very progressive in a way because of the production techniques and things they were experimenting with.
>>127794294True, I think most prog lovers would probably find something to appreciate with this record
>>127794135>>127794294What struck me as fascinating with reggae is that every individual part is pretty simple (muted guitar chords, one or two chords on organ, same on clavinet with wah, etc etc)… but, put those all together, with just the right timing and feel, and it’s a monster train of groove, much more complex than it seems +FUCK YOU please wait a while twice in a row, they really want this board dead don’t they
....wut?
>>127783044>>127787229And do you think those artists supported communism, or were trapped in it?
>>127796544Same question for UK and Europe and South America and Indonesia bands
>>127790449Maybe your problem isn't Prog but more to do with 70s music in general. Definitely check out King Crimson Discipline to see if you have a reaction to that. I'd also recommend moody blues' late 60s albums for some more 70s-free prog
>>127796500What’s not to understand? It’s Tarkus
>>127796500
>>127797148Yeah, people are famously always fighting to get out of the UK and go to North Korea or Cuba.
TAKE ME TO THE APRIL SUN IN CUBAWOAH OH OH
>>127798066Never noticed the moose knuckle on this cover.
You expected a cute girl? I-it was just me, Tarkus!
>>127793380Return to Ommadawn may be the greatest achievement in all of music. If it was released back in the 70s? Okay, whatever. It's a flawless album. Plenty of those were released in the 70s by artists within the first decade of their existence. But to do it 44 years after his debut and 27 years after his last great album is insane.
>>127796544>>127798676I don't know that that's really the point. People make art underneath systems they don't like or support all the time. Responding to people saying "here are some good artists from communist countries" with "okay but did they actually support communism?" seems like a non-sequitur
>>127799492yes
>>127800048the band?
>>127800834The Band?https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Band
>>127796544ShostakovichProkofievKhachaturianRoslavetsMyaskovsky
Pinkos are the stupidest people alive. Communism is bad for music because it creates poverty and requires top-down control of all cultural output in order to maintain power. How would you even record and distribute an album in a communist economy, other than for state propaganda? It makes no sense. The extent to which any good music exists in a communist society is the extent to which they have managed to incorporate liberal (ie capitalist) ideas into their system.
>>127801224>Communism is bad for music because it creates povertyevery country that has had a communist revolution greatly increased their social indexhave you seen the situation in Haiti?Somalia?Burundi?hell, you don't even have to go to the "third world"... look at the homelessness crisis in the USA or western Europethe flourishing welfare state of the West in the previous century only ever existed to stand up to the Soviet Union and communist discoursenow that it's gone, we're experiencing the capitalist inequity and social decay that are inevitable in a capitalist societyget real, chud
>>127801224>Communism is bad for music because it creates povertyI thought we were supposed to worship poor artists and shun industry plants
>>127792001Extremely helpful, thank you very much!
>>127801224>stupidest people aliveThat'd be capcom fanboys
I don’t get Gong, maybe I’ve had merriment beaten out of me or it’s an IQ issue
I discovered this single from february 1965https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H9k5BPqg8Soit reminds me of The Nice / ELP. I was wondering if anyone here would consider it prog, in that case it can be considered one of the first prog rock pieces ever
>>127803167>I don't get GongThere's a lot TO get, to be fair.
Just started listening to Conventum - Le bureau central des utopies
>>127801666>every country that has had a communist revolution greatly increased their social indexIndustrialization increased those countries' social index. Communism in China and Eastern Europe led to mass starvation and some of the most socially oppressive governments that ever existed, until the cold war ended and they reintegrated into the liberal global economy. You have no clue what you're talking about. The poorest Americans (aside from mentally ill who should be incarcerated in asylums) are fat and drive big cars home to their giant TV sets. Capitalism and free global trade have done more to increase the average quality of life than the rest of human invention or government action ever will. If that's reversing course at all (it's not actually) it is because of the growth of the government regulation and spending, not reducing welfare.
>>127801905There's "I'm poor so I have to play in my garage and save up for my own guitar" and then there's "I'm poor so I'm starving and no one in my province sells instruments or recording equipment."
>>127801666Also, Haiti Somalia and Burundi are poor because if their low IQ black population and for no other reason. However, 150 years ago those people were living in grass huts and eating insects so even their lives have had a dramatic wealth increase thanks to global trade.
Robert Wyatt is a trust fund kid.
>>127801666>every country that has had a communist revolution greatly increased their social indexThis is not even fucking true. Look at what happened in Ethiopia or Cambodia. Show me a communist and I will show you a liar and a moron.
>>127805127The most unrealistic part of this image is that there's a women wearing a Rush shirt
>>127805308It should be Dark Side of the Moon and the guy should be wearing a Shub-Niggurath shirt.
>>127805308My sister wears Rush shirts.
>>127805405I don't believe you, you should post photographic evidence of proof
>>127805127>what "women" claim happen>"omg some neckbeard creep demanded i list 10 songs!">what actually happened>some guy noticed a girls shirt and said something along the lines of "hey cool shirt, i like that band too, what's your favourite song/album?"
>>127805419I swear on her life. Not going to doxx family to prove a point, retard.
>>127805435Then you leave me no choice but to tall you a liar liar pants on fire, sorry anon, thems the rules
>>127805450holy based Slayerchad
>>127805450>>127805459Same fag and low trust retard. Just kys.
>>127805468>*dandy step overheads you*Heh, should've blocked high retard
>>127805468Can't hear you over the sound of your pants being on fire
>>127805476Not funny.
>>127805498Not blocking the overhead is serious business
>>127805505Stop deflecting from the fact that you are a low trust retard. You can't joke your way out of this shit.
>>127805528I wasn't even the guy that posted Slayer...
>>127805528All of this could've been avoided if you had just posted a photo of your hot sister in a Rush shirt baka
>>127805536Then fuck off.
>>127804297This is missing more projects than it has but its a good start.
>>127805556>mad because he got beaten by slayerMax is that you
>>127805553I don't do what faggots here tell me to do.
>>127805561Oh, so your retarded and faggoty friends post here, too? Who's to say that my initial accusation of same faggery isn't just the both of you dorks colluding and posting together, which might as well be equally as bad as same faggery.
>>127805590It used to be expected that every single poster here was otaku, times sure have changedAnon posted Slayer, I continued his joke from your seething, and you STILL continue to 1) get hit by the overhead2) seethe
>>127805597Talking in unnecessary gobbledygook references doesn't strengthen your argument, retard.
>>127805610anon LITERALLY posted Slayer >>127805450
>>127805617No life references. Kys.
>>127805631>being such a normalfag you don't recognise slayerGet the FUCK out normalfag
>>127805643That's rich.
>>127805590it's good to know that you have a capable caretaker, although your sister really should restrict your internet access if simple jokes trigger your autism to this degree.
>>127805689She doesn't live with me. Do you enjoy being wrong all the time?
>>127805700She should be posting here (tits or gtfo) not you lmaoSensitive ass buckbroken faggot, is this what too much King Crimson does
>>127805707>Sensitive ass buckbroken faggotThat's you, buddy.
>>127805723You're the one seething as seen >>127805498 hereSeems like ELOchads love a bit of banta while KCfags cry
>>127805730I'm not in either camp, so you're wrong again. I like both KC and ELO.
>>127801224The OP was a joke calm your tits
I didn’t know Supertramp were considered prog, neat
>>127805421It's true, I was there
>>127805127Actually it should be easy for a normie chick to name 3 Rush songs because that's pretty much the exact number of mainstream hits they had.
>>127807589I would be surprised if most women would recognize even Tom Sawyer.
>>127807630Well, better not to check
>>127807814It's a good thing actually. Women only like music they hear on TikTok or that their boyfriends show them. A woman who doesn't know vintage rock bands has probably been ran through much less.
Wait, this actually slaps. Magma's disco/funk phase has aged like wine.
>>127808017Magma's funk and disco era are one of the better "70s prog band goes 80s pop" phases.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lCAFez6Kp48
Which is better?>VdGG >Solo Hammill
>>127808977I've been too intimidated to get into his solo discography. There's just too much to listen to. I really like this song, though.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iOkMtcL1k6I
Roger won btw
Is this shit just "aw dude member the good old days"
>>127810641Every word demonstrably false
>>127810666Better than "aw dude society, man"
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ogqv6CtBfbERoger be like
MY INTERNAL MONOLOGUE HAS BEEN REPLACED WITH HAMMILL'S VOICE SEND HELP>>127783079https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OcdJL64jFDA>>127784786https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uLxxBvwtX_g>>127796500https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMc2IKzpiJo>>127794135https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KS5EWYuvXzw
Steve and Tony pretended to tolerate each other again!https://www.instagram.com/p/DO1BDI0jsEa/
>>127808977I am very familiar with 6 albums from both and pretty familiar with 3 more VDGG albums. VDGG edges out solo but not by much. If I could never listen to solo again, Gog, (In The) Black Room / The Tower, and A Louse Is Not A Home would really be the only songs I would be sad about not hearing again.
Acknowledge Kansas
>>127812132I love playing Carry On My Wayward Son in Guitar Hero 2 !
>>127808977Hammill is a top5 prog musician for mebrilliant career in VDGG and solohis music is so incredibly poignant and intimate, and also has a ton of personalitynever heard anything else quite like itRed Shift is a personal favorite
>>127813122Bro looks like Buzz Aldrin
>>127813122Maybe Rog would chill the fuck out if he ate one of those
One of the greatest prog albums of all time
>>127813715Hi Polly
>>127793874>>127794003honestly ts would've been so tuff and significantly better
Saw the new Gilmour concert film Great time
>>127815603Nice to see Romany on the big screen
i want to discuss Classical but the /classical/ general here is awful, i'll just stay here and talk about King Crimson & Magma.so King Crimson has a new album coming out or something, does this mean there is a possibility of them touring again, or is it stuff they've already recorded a while back?
>>127815880it doesn't matter, they haven't made anything actually worth listening to in over 40 years
>>12781617257 actually with the exception of Larks
>>127816177contrarian detected
>>127816212The contrarian choice is ITCOCK and picking M**nchild as your favourite song
>>127815880kc is overrated slop, can we get over them already?
Albums simillar to Elder - Omens?
Acknowledge Kultivator
>>127815880They've been saying that will come out for a while, so I'll believe it when I see it.>>127816269Get over yourself, retard.
>>127817307>Get over yourself, retard.Seriously, lol. I can't even comment on the thought of not liking Crimson.
>>127817220Acknowledged. Thanks for the suggestion.
>>127811686Tony has the most pained expression I have ever seen on someone's face.
>>127816269based>>127817307>>127817459get a grip, chuds, your silly band is just not that great
>>127817684Why don't you like KC? This "silly band" is quite admired among the prog community.
>>127818202they are just being contrarian cause its cool
>>127818202it's bait
Listening to U.K.
>>127811686Why is Tony such an asshole to Steve?
Do you guys GROON or VROOOM?
>>127817307>They've been saying that will come out for a whileNot really. They said they've been recording for a while but they aren't committing to making another album. It's a "We're just messing around to see where it goes, don't hold your breath" situation.
>>127820022We Goon.
>>127820310Brutal mogging. Guess Fripp could at least took some comfort that Greg got fat.
>>127818706Blueblood old money Anglos could tell something was amiss in this guy they found in a newspaper ad
>>127818706>Why is Tony such an assholeHe knows he's the least talented of the band
>>127823206Also, a pic of Richard Wright for no reason
>>127778266Rush would disagree
>>127823206Tony is an objective virtuoso regardless of his attitude
>>127823206>least talented of the band >>>/Mike Rutherford/
>>127823913He wrote better songs than Tony Banks
>>127823913>Mike Rutherford>writes half of the songs and the lyrics, has to play bass and rhythm guitar parts live simultaneously behind Phil's crazy drum partsThe real answer is Peter, let's be honest
>>127823913he played a huge part making Collins' Genesis which is far better than the crap Gabriel pulled
Cunts
what do we think about cardiacs' new album, it's just not the same without Tim singing it.
