get us started i suppose

industrial / acid / dem bow riddim

https://voca.ro/1hdO97KOlbcI

>>127782658
When you make a thread, please go link it in the old one.

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For me, it’s Metasonix tube drum machines and mono synth

some more tape mess:

https://vocaroo.com/1fp3ZHeJMHx4

okie guys SOPHIE nerd inspired me i'll go back to my roots and make unlistenable IDEM today (for you)

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For the two anons who replied to my post on the last thread. I used a Vital synth and searched up a tutorial on synth stabs primarily dub techno synth stabs and then modified all the effects to sound more to my liking. I will be listening to that Rhythm & Sound album because most of the dub techno I've listened to is Monolake and Andy Stott than Basic Channel. Also for the drums I really just kinda place them in whatever I find interesting and for some reason (too much IDM listening) my drums are always really busy, I know a more simple and basic beat (especially for Dub Techno) is more applicable but I always have that naggy voice in the back of my head saying they're boring. Most of the samples I use are 909 and 808 drum samples with hi hats from a random pack I found so I don't really have anything I've designed myself to use. I started doing this about a month or so ago so all I have is a free DAW (Lmms) and free samples I've scalped across the internet. Here's another track I've made. https://vocaroo.com/1pDJubpGAb1D

>best DAW is locked to Mac
hate it

>>127786753
Cozy

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A day of celebration for REAPER chads.

>>127786148
so heckin inspiring
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ScsgDIfZzg4

>>127786829
youre talking about logic or garbageband neither is good for mixing have fun with broken pdc lmao

>>127786753

hope you don't take this the wrong way but i had a go at making your tune sound a bit more dub techno-ey. kept the drum pattern but filtered it to be more dubby, added a big delayed skank on the 2 and 4 and slowed it right down to 120. also added a dub bassline which is a pretty much a requirement for this genre.

https://vocaroo.com/1e1e6Zb2MlUD

>>127786876
God bless

>>127786829
nah you can use cubase with pc

>>127787246
Not that anon but that noise/hiss is obnoxiously loud. Otherwise dug the general vibe.

Is dub techno even a genre you can define?
I've liked ska/reggae/dub for most of my life and played in bands for each, but never found dub techno to have a cohesive sound. Every playlist or recommendations seems to mean something different to everyone. Sometimes it's more minimal/tech house sounding and sometimes more industrial. I guess in my head downtempo is a lot closer to being dub than techno since it leaves room for all the instruments. Only overarching themes are tape echos and minor chord stabs

Closest I've found was stuff like this where periodically you hear elements like rimshot with delay or guitar samples, some of it just sounds like bad "remixes" of overly filtered reggae.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPAhos-VZAo

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i've put a heavier gauge on the jazzmaster and have been experimenting with some sounds. the tone is definitely darker but im now getting a lot more resonance with the tuning im playing in.

>>127787602
You'd get even more resonance if you didn't use a jm lmao

>>12778760
i dont understand, doesn't the space behind the bridge allow the strings to resonant more? i dont have a buzz stop on there

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why'd you delete

>>127787627
I didn't. You deleted a number off the end. Take your meds

>>127787849
my mistake. meds are taken

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god i'm so annoying

https://vocaroo.com/1jDZ62yXG6Qe

>>127788587
slop truck arrived, sounds like every other song yup

>>127787246
That song I put was just a DnB track I made. This is the dub techno track https://voca.ro/1bgMMLbsPs8g

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>>127786753
It sounds like some instruments in your drums sound louder than they should be, like the two snares that you have going on or the open hat. When balancing out how loud certain instruments should be, it's good beginner advice to have your most important instrument (usually the kick in EDM music) peak at -6Db, and then space out how loud your other instruments are by increments of around 6Db. I made a quick recreation of your drums, but I made the kick peak at -6Db, had the snares peak around -9.9 to -12Db, and had the hats peak around -16Db. This isn't a hard and fast rule you should always follow, but it's an easy way to start balancing instrument volumes when you're not sure how to start.
https://vocaroo.com/1kBJql2EiW0r

it’s 3db increments

>>127789222
based bit shift gain

>>127789200
Whatever the noise/clap/stick is is loud as fuck and cuts right through my head

>>127789200
Thanks anon, I don't know how to mix my instruments at all lol. I need to watch more videos on mixing. I'll keep this in mind for the future.

too much delay?
https://voca.ro/11x4EkXXk5oj

>>127789266
>I need to watch more videos on mixing
No you dont, you just need to mix more

Is this a bop chat? I only like the drums really.

https://vocaroo.com/16FlqatSKyTk

BLERP TAKEOVER
https://vocaroo.com/1kZs07hk8VyF

>>127787627
>>127787849
>>127788024
Kek

>>127787598
Yeah, even though the genre is pretty stereotypical, it's a rather broad spectrum from which people have their favorite zones. For me it's a question of mood: cold but lively, repetitive but interesting, sparse but efficient, kind of melancholic but not sad. There are very few albums I really dig and most of them are from the Insectorama netlabel. I hate Markus Masuhr, though.

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https://vocaroo.com/1hacmClFaznn
rough mix, feels a bit messy, but quite enjoy it so far
some constructive criticism would be greatly appreciated

>>127784064
went into this expecting to hate it, dislike riddim you see, but fuck man this is great
the basses, the atmosphere, fucking all of it is mint
only problem i think is how do you progress the track further from here
>>127786753
not a fan of the drums, pad is lovely though
>>127789503
>>127789941
both the songs lacks character
>>127790562
if it's a rough mix then it needs more punch to the kick
more broadly it's missing texture for me -- nothing to grab onto, all just nebulous techno
some parts are incredibly quiet as well, drop really lacks in any interest

>>127792886

dem bow riddim is just a beat structure.. not a reference to that dubstep offshoot trash genre. should have clarified that i suppose

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>>127784898
oops wrong pic

>>127794208

post some music anon let's hear what all those tubes can do

i always see pics of peoples elaborate music set ups, like goreshits setup, or the other anon in the thread. but is it realistically doable to make music with no equipment but my laptop? i have fl studio, ofc, but i get discouraged by seeing how much money people have thrown at it when i have no money to throw.

>>127796068
yes it’s completely doable stop being dumb

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>>127796106
>insulted when asking a genuine question
i see...

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>tfw ywn make anything half as good as Wicked Game Slowed + Reverb

>>127796127
sorry, but your genuine question is a dumb question.

>>127796127
Just uninstall FL since you know you're a loser crybaby

>>127796068
Make a bop and make it out of the hood
>gear =/= skill
>FL Studio
>Avicii was able to build Levels in a cave, with a box of scraps

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>>127784064
I would like some Gesaffelstein sirens, chants and a bigger chorus to go please

>>127796068

completely doable, tons of free or cheap tools out there.

Arturia Analog Lab Play
Melda Free Bundle
Kilohearts Free Bundle
Valhalla 3x Free Plugins, the rest are cheap and amazing
TAL Free Plugins
Samples From Mars Free Kits

get all that stuff and go crazy

>>127784064
you seem afraid of space and letting things breathe. there's way too much compression on most things, i would let things decay to silence instead of the tails lasting so long. grooves way less with no room between hits

>>127799191

yeah you got my number. everything is in a group with AS_Damage, Valhalla, OTT @ 39%, Limiter, and Arturia Dist Tube Culture with the comp all the way up lol

I'll try to make the song more compositionally open / create pockets of air here and there because I'm kind of committed to the timbre of the group as it is. maybe a little less OTT

I’ve only been fucking with it for like an hour so it needs some more polishing and love but it’s groovy af

https://vocaroo.com/1liAtieyOj9i

>>127800025
turn the bass up, can barely hear it. guitar too

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mCjtITqTfgc
how does this dude use such light gauges on such low tunings? is it the type of bridge he's using?

>>127800862
The camo, goldtop, chiquita, and esp tele look completely wrong.

>>127801008
not the opinion or answer im after but i appreciate it nonetheless

>>127801055
I looked at it again, I got some of the numbers messed up in my head. I also didn't realize he was doing a drone string on the top.

Reanalyzing, the chiquita and tele are in drop C. D standard with 11s is what I have a guitar tuned it and it's fine with a setup, no special hardware. The low C would be something I'd want to gauge up, idk how he's playing with a lighter one or if that's actually the case.
With the camo, the G and C strings look like the wrong gauge number, and then the gold top actually seems like just a pair of 9s and the tuning is E standard so it's actually fine.

You shouldn't need any special hardware but remember he has so many guitars and a tech changing them probably after every song or two. The only thing that looks weird is trying to play Drop C with 10s. I can't play in D with 10s for any guitar I have without the tuning going out in a minute.

>>127801055
Last bit to note, the Kiesel's being multiscale and the bridge does probably help a lot which you can notice how far back he goes. You'd probably want both to be able to play such light strings like that since the tension can be more appropriate.

So yeah, it's a bit of hardware probably

>>127801194
>>127801317
Thanks anon. Ive been trying to set up my guitar for low tunings and went with 12s thinking it would give me the necessary tension but I find the tone way too dark so im glad I can go back to a lighter gauge if it means I can make other adjustments on the guitar

>>127801600
i was that annoying kid who would bang out beats every fucking class until the class baddie asked me to please stop and i didn’t realize it was annoying so i stopped forever after that :(

>>127801643
>I find the tone way too dark
I don't think the tone should get that much darker.

You should lower the pickup height because the strings will be more powerful under more tension. It's probably way too boomy on the low strings like the 6th string, so lower the pickup height especially on the bass side of the strings to get back some of the brightness. Whenever you change strings/tunings drastically, you should adjust the pickup heights to balance out the tone and possibly adjust the bridge/neck volumes.

>so im glad I can go back to a lighter gauge if it means I can make other adjustments on the guitar
That depends on the guitar. You probably can't add a bridge that will let you adjust the intonation that far, and you can't magically make your guitar multiscale/fanned frets.

Vibrato is the thinking man's modulation

>>127802170
No, that would be harmonic tremolo or univibe. But it's all just modified chorus/delay at the end of the day

>>127802184
Vibrato adds so much character and spatial presence its not even a competition in my eyes. I can turn something into a nostalgic sad core piece immediately with vibrato

>>127802170
it’s very nice when done tastefully but i loathe synth solo moments when mfs just wanna show off and wank.

>>127802184
goodhertz has that one inspired by the fender amp obvs.
FOR ME it’s the guitar rig twin amp thingy.
i used it extensively on my extremely popular and successful dark ambient album. very nice.

>>127802243
>my extremely popular and successful dark ambient album
Can I get an autograph

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>>127802732
haha no sorry i don't do that celebrity stuff but you can have a virtual hug uwu

>frusciante: and it's like, they're not talking to you, they're talking to the image of you they have in your head
>morris: so it's like, youuu become the poster mannn
>narrator: simulacrum

i haven't decided whether to do selfies or not yet though. i don't want to but it would feel too mean not to

sry i got too sleepy now i'm kinda over it idk the moment may have passed

https://vocaroo.com/14JLlKBu7JoM

>tried to make music today
>just another day of multiple hours spent troubleshooting entirely new mystery problems
>got exhausted and quit before ever recording a single note
I'm so tired of it, guys

>>127803420
hardware user or linuxfag?

https://voca.ro/16TEpRyMBlWR

What the hell are some of you guys deleting your vocaroo links? There are multiple in here that I can't access

>>127792886
Killer Bean coded movie music. Jokes aside maybe too much compression on that violin string thing? Perhaps a tad repetitive

>>127803316
A lot of details to this sort of thing. How long did it take to produce these 51 seconds?

>>127803316
all sophie samples? lol

>>127801726
>not tapping (on) her ass for revenge

>>127803316
this you? >>127786148

>>127782658
I should be studying instead of doing this crap fucking hell just
https://vocaroo.com/1hdfQVvTRm79

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Penguin anon here with my battle theme
But I switched out the steel drums for a xylophone
and took out the brass
https://voca.ro/1bFRVKIlFkwQ

is it normal to feel like a retarded kid trying to learn how to play a song with chords in the left hand and melodies in the right. I can do them separately but together is fucking torture, does it get better

>>127807299
>does it get better
Of course.
Try these:
https://m.youtube.com/results?search_query=piano+hand+independence+exercises

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>>127794500
perhaps, I’d figure everyone is already familiar with how tubes rule

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>>127807299
>does it get better
Everyone needs to learn to crawl (why does this word look really weird to me right now?) before they can run.
Eventually you'll have things like this to look forward to.

>>127805359
In case anyone was unfortunate enough to hear that abject garbage, I cut most of the random percussion, changed the kick, simplified the bassline and cut most of the high frequencies of that as well as sculpting the sound a bit overall in a final eq pass
https://vocaroo.com/1gpoDTBCq2vF

It's still unremarkable but at least I don't want to die when I hear it. I still haven't studied because I'm a retarded loser. Thank you for reading my blog (I write that to pretend that this whole message is ironic but nobody actually buys that right)

>>127807299
>>127807369
nvm halfway through the song
it does get better lol

>>127807369
i've been doing these also, they really help, true and thank you
>>127807760
>pic
nah bro i think i'll stick to simpler stuff

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Cool tune in an odd time signature
I’m going to wipe my friends scratch vocals and out my own, but does it work?

https://voca.ro/19wPqE94Ud2x

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some placeholder instruments, minimal prod.
https://vocaroo.com/12y5EA1HAaAU

>>127808475
it works, and I like it
>>127807939
notch out the resonances at 640 Hz, 1230 Hz, 1650 Hz, and 1860 Hz with an EQ

>>127808700
Thank you, I didn't realize how excessive that was until I heard the difference. I'll remember to do that going forward.

>>127804799
idk like 3-5 hours collectively including dicking around time so far i think

>>127804853
>>127804870
who is Sophie?

>>127809624
this guy >>127786941

>>127810051
*shuns you*

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Acid
https://vocaroo.com/1fL3QaAxwy03

>>127810109
Bluelock?

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>>127808700
Thanks bro. Whenever I can make 5/4 (10/8) sound good, I do that.

>>127810109
nice start i love that little twink

two notes bass
https://vocaroo.com/1egiWih3rXEy
>>127810396
ty, but he's not, aight?
>>127810368
ye, s2 onward is shit thought(besides bestboy)

>>127810539
>ty, but he's not, aight?
everybody on that show is gay as hell wym that guy is literally OBSESSED with usagi lmao

>>127810648
All this talk reminds me of Given.
Damn man, imagine if we got an anime like that, but it wasn't Yaoi shit.

>>127810719
>an all girl show where the girls aren't cute
>a comedy that isn't funny
>a fight show where the fights look boring and the animation sucks
what is the point

>>127810762
lol

>>127794500
He doesn't make music. He's never made music. He spends a lot of money on boutique gear then just spams pics of it laid out on his carpet.

>>127810825
Many such cases!

>>127810921
Mmmhmm. I buy things but never take them out of their boxes; not even the brown boxes that they were shipped inside. I don't post pictures of them, however.

Is it just me or is paying for amateur mixing a fucking waste. Maybe I’m much better than I think with Logic Pro but I experimented with hiring 300$ or less mixers for a friends song and most were mediocre at best.
It feels like it only starts to get good at like $500 for mixing.
I mixed the song myself and it sounds better even if it’s not perfect.
Like. These mixes I paid for didn’t even have good frequency balance . At best they made the vocals sound good, but that’s about it.
I guess I should start charging for mixing.

are there advantages to using a dj style sampling (whether vinyl or those digital versions) over a midicontroller to play samples?

>>127811062
Mixing isn't mastering but also sounds like you're getting massively ripped off at those prices

>>127811293
wut

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for me, it’s diy Serge

>gus fring
massive. massive x. fm8. absynth 5. reaktor 5. kontakt 5.

https://vocaroo.com/115kKPo3dTlk

also i will use melodyne. like justice.

>>127811598
>dickwaving modular in 2025
lmao we know nothing good is coming out of that quarter-mid-life crisis gear

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>>127811875
what’s the trouble anon? was fun to build, fun to learn serge modules patch programming, and sounds incredible

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>>127811937
built all of these euro format serge modules too, except the touch keyboard which wasn’t offered as a pcb/panel. pretty rewarding to build your own instrument

>>127811766
compressed post

>>127812627
>you wouldn’t get it…

>>127796068
Gearfagging is a separate hobby to actually making music.

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Personally it’s Cascade FAT HEAD ribbon mics

>>127811419
I’m asking what the point of a dj is in music production
Is it just outdated? (Compared to other sampling techniques)

>>127813678
>>127811293
try to do a backspin with a DAW or midi controller

that and i guess extremely specific flavors of effects (native to their own software or hardware) are the only things i can think of, aside from "workflow preference."

>>127813678
To fucking party

>>127813751
>>127814181

Is it the human element?

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>>127814916
humans ARE the party

>>127813751
> try to do a backspin with a DAW or midi controller
I looked that up and it’s fairly cool. I guess that what separates them?

In any case I guess you can use both tables and midi controller. There’s hybrids out there.

>>127814916
The Fifth Element is such a good movie. Got damn.

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>https://vocaroo.com/1lzwdNwK4Chj
if someone wanted to record the bassline with an actual bass guitar for me that'd be massively appreciated

(i know it needs a more present kick to match the snare)

What do you think of Nexus 5?

>>127814966
was going to play along but the singing made me cringe my butt off

>>127815256
yeah its a placeholder for now, just some brakence vox i isolated

heres no vox if you were being serious
https://vocaroo.com/11pwO1BYtiE6

>>127815317
damn anons don't fw brakence? what are we back on the like, 2022 hate??

ngl i'm kinda tempted but i would demand more creative input because i can hear this shit but it's not hyper enough 5 me yet.
cool tune so far tho

>>127813156
Have you ever recorded anything?

>>127812627
Tried slamming my compressor like those guys and it sounded like shit. Granted im not making dance music like them and while the hard compressor had a cool garage demo vibe, it siphoned the juice from the project

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>>127816468
the difference is they know what they're doing and had a pair of hardware 1176 compressors even for their debut album

this applies to many anons ITT
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Ot4eV6RR14

>>127817535
i skipped to 3 minutes in just to see what the hell you were blabbering about and lol

hold on need to map my white keys

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>muh bjork sat on floor with toys to make her music
see pic related

>muh deadmau5
racks of outboard gear from floor to ceiling
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/PNDxUfuEkik

>muh skrillex
hired a proper mastering engineer who used analog gear, and probably had a more sophisticated understanding of audio engineering himself (and sound design, duh) than the average anon

meanwhile anons believe that the beatles would become successful starting from scratch in their parents basement with nothing but a focusrite scarlett interface and a couple of microphones. lol if that were the case why aren't random poojeets doing that and becoming successful because songwriting can be done for free and software tools can be pirated for free

>>127817724
what the fuck happened to Nellee Hooper anyway? Dude was everywhere in the 90s and then... gone

>kill /dmp/
>migrates to another general since there's nobody left to bother back in the last shithole he ruined
cool. see you guys in a few days to see if he gets bored and leaves

>>127817756
the low IQ video was too on the nose to ignore lol. i haven't even looked in /dmp/ because i'm sick of everyone especially that boomer.

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>muh soulja boy
mixed by this guy

>>127817535
I know what im doing

>>127786876
>>127787390
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mytfrJUkX1Q
we might be using the wrong DAW bros...

>>127817535
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Ot4eV6RR14

Americans are the dumbest fucking people in the world
Get some education instead of listening to this bullshit

>>127818252
not an argument hag

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>>127816433
of course, in particular I like to use a modded 1950s Ampex 601 2 channel tubed mic preamp with the FAT HEAD ribbons. Could also use either channel as tubed DI which sounds incredible.

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>>127817535
>>127817724
>>127817809
Holy shit so you're telling me that I can make my music in the box (even with shitty stock Fruity Loops sounds like Soulja Boy) and still have it sound like the biggest worldwide hits by just hiring an engineer with a good track record and analog gear?
This gave me a lot of hope :)
Thanks friend!

>>127818462
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Ot4eV6RR14

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_qvmAXFCOg
KARRA spent $100k although a lot of it was for video/photo sessions. if you're too broke to own some decent gear you probably can't afford the top engineers with lots of revisions etc or you might not even know what revisions to ask for. you're still rolling the dice like carly rae jepsen's voice sounds wrong in this and she didn't even get 1 million views yet:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1bfxVSysSvA
KARRA has some gear herself
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-yldo0IfBvU
for 99.99% of anons it's going to be a polishing a turd situation
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AfhJzEIwFQI

>>127818553
Haha yeah I saw that. Good thing we understand that the general rule is that analog gear is good and we can book studio time to use it without owning it, as well as hire expert engneers to use it to mix and master our songs :)
Ignore the naysayers. Carry on my high-IQ friend :)

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do not engage!

https://voca.ro/1ozuzBF829rW

>>127818609
sweet

>>127818588
And presumably you can afford all the necessary gear, room treatment, etc?

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>>127818592
most anons want to do as much by themselves as feasible to save money and have quality control because it's like servicing your car or whatever, some minimum wage mechanic won't take the same care as a car enthusiast who has his own setup to wrench on his car without having to rush it. becoming a successful artist is statistically about on par with winning the lottery with what you're trying to do, most people can't even make minimum wage off of music without having to grind on live shows at local bars and such.

>>127818588
>for 99.99% of anons it's going to be a polishing a turd situation
Why?
You just said that having a good sound is the most important thing, so why would someone who hires the right people that can give them a good sound, not be able to make good music?

the lizard is samefagging
DO NOT ENGAGE!

>>127818649
you're truly an idiot, i don't have to explain this to you because you will never have a reasonable understanding of how the world works, keep going, you can keep going for the rest of your life and see how successful you become, you could be a legend like ozzy osbourne or whatever if you just wish for it. idiot!

>>127818642
Thankfully we can be the Taylor Swift of the situation and not be "most anons" thanks to our understanding of the benefits of proper gear :)
Cheers friend
We(appreciators of analog gear)'re all gonna make it!

>>127818673
keep practicing playing the piano or whatever for another 10 years, then write the goddamn ebin the beatles, taylor swift, ed sheeran tier sounds, then just pay some engineers to turn your music into gold!

>>127818677
That's the plan! :)

*songs

>>127818658
I just asked a simple question jeez

>>127818682
taylor swift has top tier production from start to finish, it's not just the mixing and mastering

>>127818691
I said Taylor Swift as an analogy to the engagement thing from your video :)
I know she has top tier production, but Soulja Boy and many others didn't, and became successful through the power of analog mixing and mastering!
Just a few decades ago this would've never been accessible to us, but now it is!
We are so blessed my friend :)

>>127818705
you're the fat bitch who thinks she can marry gigachad. your approach doesn't have any realistic chance of success. something more reasonable would be like what justice did, which they considered a modest home studio setup but is still much more usable than trying to hack together purely digital EDM slop that has been done to death since the early days of youtube.

>>127818732
Ah I get it now. It has to be PRODUCED in a real studio, and then mixed by an expert!
So the best approach is to make everything in the box, then rent a studio that has good gear for a few hours to re-record my parts with real gear, with the aid of the in-house engineer, then send everything to mixing.
This way the whole assembly line is high quality, and there's no weak link anywhere!
Eureka! Haha :D

>>127818763
do you realize that this would cost thousands or tens of thousands to do properly while you have a meltdown about gearfags over a few hundred bucks of gear

>>127818770
It's ok, I have already rented a studio with my high school band and they had walls of racks (we didn't use anything cause we had no idea haha) and it only cost us $400 for the day, and the engineer would've been $100 extra. I can afford that.

>a few hundred bucks of gear
What? Is it that cheap to but what's necessary to sound good?
What do I need to buy other than two 1776s?

Man you're being so helpful. I'm so excited to make it with this knowledge.
Me an you my brother, everyone's gonna know our name! :D

>>127818827
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AnLrFMpkZJ4
>48k views
this is about the quality you can expect even from a good studio in LA, nashville or whatever

some youtube commenter said there are lots of guitarists with better technical skill than john mayer but they don't get any success. GEE I WONDER WHY when john mayer shows the analog console and prophet 5 prominently in his music video. he's not just some fucking retard who rents a studio and lets the engineer wipe his ass for him.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66Ne5dVDfLM

>>127818882
So you'd rather go with the modest studio approach? Interesting... Yeah that rules out the possibility of not getting my money's worth. You're right.
So what's the few hundred dollars worth of gear that I should get?
What do you have in your studio?

>>127818903
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CsrTR2zuk4s

>>127818912
Just the 1176 pair?
Man thank you so much, I didn't know it was so easy to make it :D
Ordering ASAP!!! haha

I have to leave for work now. Take care my guardian angel! I won't forget you when I reach the top thanks to you! ;,)

>>127818912
Yeah let me trust the judgment of a dude with the word vegan tattooed on his forearm. That's clearly not a mentally ill retard exclusively to be laughed at.

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https://voca.ro/1nMxrOnlwjKI (city level)
https://voca.ro/1npE1OFZvG3j (desert level)

>>127819006
listen to the audio demos and hear for yourself and the 1176 has a long track record it's still being used by the top producers and engineers

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For me, it’s Placid Audio Copperphone

https://voca.ro/12yZljYQaEog

wdyt

needs work...

how does this sound? ;(

https://voca.ro/1dWFgv5hlTZ3

>>127819520
drop/transition at 1:00 has an abrupt and sudden gain jump, maybe introduce a smooth ramp? (or adjusting the balance of the whole track).
the transition at 2:18 comes off disconnected, needs more blending?
>>127819542
I like it

https://vocaroo.com/19fLyD8q4lfP

More slowed and chopped sheeeeeeit

>>127817535
The French House sound is attributable to one of the most affordable and dogshit compressors ever
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nsc2wNlvZMw

You've been showing your ass for months, you still don't know anything and can't make music lmao

>>127819064
Kewl stuff
Is it for a game?

>>127818081
This dude looks like a guy I went to high school with. The music and workflow shown in this video definitely does not sell Ableton Live to me either.

>>127820791
daft punk is horribly overrated by french nationalists. fucking normie sheep. once again you're pointing to outliers to "prove" your "point" because you are an actual retard. the alesis 3630 is still a hardware compressor and not a plugin. and their best album was random access memories wihch had far more tryhard production with. kill yourself fucking retarded troll, you're actually retarded and are ngmi but you're delusional so you're going to keep going for years and barely make any progress like how it has been going thus far. you're probably 40+years old by now lmao.

>>127821545
you have dogshit taste, i don't even like depeche mode but there is beautiful musicality in that video, only one part has questionable dissonance but i guess she wanted an authentic live performance and didn't want to re-record it numerous times.

This thread is hilarious
>songwriting doesn't matter, it's all about the production quality, which you can't ever get, so give up
>I on the other hand, am sure to become a successful producer thanks to this chair, these two $299 compressors and my trusty EQd chinese earbuds
>if you bought the same stuff you still won't be successful because, uhh, you just won't okayyy???
Dumb piece of shit.

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>>127821818
>random access memories
You’re a reddit faggot. That album isn’t even close to their best. You should stfu

>>127821878
you're an actual retard, doesn't even matter what you think about me, YOU being a retard is a separate matter from anything that has to do with me

>>127821890
ok boomer
"around the world" got spammed on the radio during the time that your brain crystallized, your brain has stopped developing since then in the same way that some random post-menopausal lady is obsessed with ricky martin or someshit

>>127821923
Keep seething lmao I’m saving all of this. It’s Sunday nigga cheer up

>>127821933
fucking kill yourself fucking retard
>I’m saving all of this
fucking rent free and obsessed, small-minded little spastic, you have no success for yourself so you sperg out about me because deep down you know i'm running circles around you, i'm like usain bolt while you didn't even qualify for the special olympics lmao

>>127821951
Didn't know Usain Bolt became the best in the world by reading r/running without ever training or competing.
A true generational talent.

smells like pork over here

>>127821973
see >>127821899
you're beyond fucking retarded and coping hard

>>127821988
What anyone thinks is irrelevant to the fact that everything you do and think is perfectly the opposite of what's been proven time and time again to lead to success, and is perfectly in line with what's been shown, in music and everywhere else, to be the most likely path to failure.

There isn't ONE thing about you that isn't a joke.
You're a clown through and through.
I genuinely don't think I'd be able to be this pathetic of a lolcow even if I tried. It's kind of impressive.

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personally it’s machinedrum innit

>>127822037
see:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Ot4eV6RR14

you're so insanely wrong and you're too stupid to even understand it despite having been spoonfed for years. every top-tier music artist has had top-tier production for their time. you're pointing to outliers like soulja boy like you're going to replicate his success from using stock FL studio sounds. you're the real lolcow here. fucking retard i swear.

>>127822092
As always, that video, and everything you say, applies exactly to you and not to the person you're trying to insult.
It's like you have some kind of opposite day mental illness where everything you say has to be the exact opposite of the truth.

>>127822131
if you're so smart, go ahead and write your ebin songs, and produce them with any method of your choosing, i'm sure you'll get the last laugh when your songs become massively successful. but no, you're going to obsess about me and lash out at various anons who dare to discuss and try to learn about music production in a serious manner. you're never going to make music of any cultural significance comparable to the beatles or whatever, you're never going to become a millionaire, you're just too stupid for that.

>>127796068
It's much nicer to have real gear to doodle around on. Noodling and doodling is so much more fun and easy and musically profitable when you have nice synthesizers and such with knobs and buttons and a display, and your keyboard.

You CAN make music with nothing but a laptop but it's a lot more like data entry and you lose the tactile fun factor and natural ease you get when using real hardware synths.

Poorfags who don't have any money to spend on their hobby, or dabblers who don't want to take away from their GAYMEN PC budget, will complain but really it's not expensive to get started with hardware. A used MPC for a couple hundred bucks, by itself, will get you started. And then you can just get cheap poorfag used synths and add them on as you go. Just skipping the yearly phone upgrade will fund enough gear to make a good racket with.

These threads are also infested by DAW- and plugin-sellers, you can easily distinguish their posts. They hate the idea of you getting some old gear and just being happy with it. You need to SUBSCRIBE to the latest music software and plugin instruments and effects.

>>127803431
Ableton on Windows 10.

>be Windows 95 Man
>make bedroom trance tune in one hour
>become national finalist for Eurovision

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tf1NS1vEhSg

>>127822161
different anon but my music is in 5 released games so far lol wheres yours

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>>127821951
Weird because you’ve never made ONE good song or had any success

>>127782658
Vaguely Plok-inspired

https://voca.ro/1haKp8FRLhnu

>>127822061
drum machime pill me on this one, i already have a roland r8, a korg drumlogue, 606

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>>127824454
the whole elektron workflow and particularity p-lock…being able to easily change the different parameters on a per step basis…make their stuff perfect for performing/improvising. you should check out the videos cenk did introducing it, he also did their other instrument videos for awhile too, good stuff
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jAkuJoGY1-8
and
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=inZrYjKFsyc

ableton live 12 standard or fl studio all plugins

>>127825682
just flip a coin

>>127825682
not a big fan of paying for all the fl plugins
theres a few that are worthwhile but I think overall most of it is pretty replaceable
signature or producer edition is sufficient (for me)

>>127825682
audacity

>>127825682
Live Lite 13

>>127825682
fl for songwriting focused workflow
live for production oriented workflow

>>127826179
>fl for songwriting focused workflow
How does this work? Isn't that what Live's session view excels at?

isnt abletons strength the one-window view of things?

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https://vocaroo.com/16kW0MBJ16pw

stonk :|

>>127826244
Certified banger with tinnitus topping.

>>127825682
FL all plugins is good for life, buy Live 12 when it includes 13 as a pre-release purchase. I think Live gets less and less attractive each year as they fail to implement new features and require $200 every few years

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https://vocaroo.com/17NrsHQ23Ye8

Wondering where I should take this thang. I’m really liking it but I’ve got to go to bed and the possibilities feel endless

>>127825728
I think Luxeverb, Harmor, and Transistor are worth it. Transient Shaper and Pitch Shifter in the box sweeten it up a little, also Kepler Exo and whatever else they'll add. All the third party TB303 plugins cover a good chunk of the delta between Signature and All plugins on sale and the sequencer is pretty decent on it, I have another third party Juno I like but Exo is pretty good.

I would recommend Signature for the first year and then upgrade to all plugins the next year if they're interested in a few of those plugins.

>>127826430
I replaced the transient shaper and pitch shifter with the free kilohearts equivalents - definitely recommend for any poor anons
Luxeverb is definitely good though

wish imageline would make the standalone plugins cheaper

>>127826593
i like the seeing the recurring statement of “i feel the same at 100… 1000 as i did at 10,000, then a 1,000,000…”
really makes you think. :|

yeah you definitely should we need teh scramz

>>127826669
Mmhmm. Our baseline is generally always our baseline.
I usually take a week off of work right before new years, so that would be the perfect time for me to get setup -- I will need to buy some cymbals since my current ones are complete trash, and not in a good way. Also mics... I only have one SM57.

>>127826711
orrr you could set it up little by little and write a sketch or 2 and take that week to go crazy on it :)

trash cymbal stack

>>127826724
This is true and the best approach. I have boxes I need to clean out from when I first moved into this house; one a week; I'll do that.
Trash cymbal stack is kind of a meme sound. We'll see.

>>127826374
Corkcore. Not sure if the bass is supposed to be more prominent, but it's barely there listening in my car.

do I copp sublab xl for 18 bucks bros?

>>127827788
bfr you don't need it bro

at what point (as a beginner) should i invest in a midi? i see like arturia minilab3 on amazon relatively cheap (i pirate everything else so costs of DAWs and plugins dont matter at all). that doesnt seem like a huge cost in case i get bored or it breaks or whatever the fuck?

>>127828246
don't bother with anything less than a 49key
you can get a very basic 49key for $100 USD
i'd get one straight away, and then not buy any other gear for 5 years - midi keyboards are the only thing you really need early on

>>127828265
hmm, almost twice as expensive. also im mostly interested in digi/hyperpop, at least at first. is the small one not enough? i can see the benefits of the 49 keys one but thats a lot of deskspace

>>127828293
If you don't know how to play piano, a MIDI keyboard will be no more useful than mapping your current keyboard to MIDI, which most DAWs support.

2 octaves is overly restrictive, if you need more space you could get something like a Korg Microkey that's small enough to just play on your lap. Alternatively you could look into something like a launchpad.

>>127827753
It doesn’t even have bass yet. Just an 808 kick. It’s just a lot of drum machines and percussion

https://voca.ro/1dNID8MOa2r2
We are working on a track right now, never really recorded guitar before and i hardly play but thoughts on this? This is leading into a chorus section and i only have that melontron as pre chorus as of yet.

Any tipps for groovey basslines in Tech-House?

>>127831362
make your own sequences/lines using a sequencer

>>127830773
Fucking hell, this is a mess. I can hear something nice in the ideas there, but the execution is awful. Your timings are all fucked, so fixing that would be a good start. Maybe try playing to a metronome next time. I like the jangly reverb guitar part, the sound fits nicely. The muted guitar could use some work, though (both timing and playing need tightening along with a different tone possibly). All that said, I still think it's decent and can appreciate the effort at least.

>>127831362
>>127831437
Also, I can hook you with some decent midi sequences/lines from a pack i overuse if you want.

>>127818882
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AnLrFMpkZJ4
I'm 99% sure I've seen this lady in a stepmom video somewhere on the internet

>>127831480
Thanks man aiming for a choppy feel but it went awry gotta fix it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZQrM5WFEGQ what's the text to speech/ speech synthesis used in the beginning of the video, id like to use it in a song

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time for major upgrade boys

>>127832103
it's shit tbqhwy

>>127832090
Vocoder?

>>127830773
I think it's fine in general.

>>127832203 yea, I heard that before. Reason is useless for professional usage, plus the main sequencer still feels ergonomically stucked in 2000s, but I have tons of fun just noodling inside rack view.
Stock plugins sound great raw without effects. I don't need to do much tweaking to get authentic raw 80s and 90s electronic dance vibes (something I wasn't satisfied with while using FL Studio).

>>127832090 idk, but you can try VST Speek, based on Atari SAM.

>>127832693
i dont think it is one because theres no underlying human quality and its very monotone and robotic, i heard it here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UcUF0k8Fsgs

>>127832838
If you don't have Reason at all, it might be worth it to play around with the rack plugin. Its synths are generally decent; I like thor, maelstrom, and europa. Reason 13 itself is a bad release, and Reason overall has been stagnating since 2010. It you want it for the sounds, it might be worth it. I'd say to just pirate, but I don't think you can pirate any version past like Reason 8?

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>>127786753
More stuff I'm working on, haven't mixed this yet just raw from the daw
https://voca.ro/1oPFhbP5KsYi

>>127833483 actually, I've been using Reason 11 Intro for past 6 years. I mainly want to get rid of 16 lane limit in sequencer and to get access to plugins that weren't availaible in my version. 173 euro seems like fair deal, I don't remember the daw going on sale lower than 349. If v13 will turn out to be shit I always have option to downgrade to v12.

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For me, it’s Elektron Analog.Rytm and Analog Four

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crstl cstl nt fr tho
(stop texting me bitch fk)

https://vocaroo.com/1jhGD3Qr06Tp

>>127835143
I'm happy with my RS7000 for these types of duties, driving other gear too. It's a wild machine.

>>127836104
i listened to this 10 times

can you anons please include the genre or at least your inspiration when you post vocaroos?

>>127836581
no i'm too unique sorry

>>127827753
https://vocaroo.com/1nZ2CCJPFxfz

There’s some bass lad

https://vocaroo.com/1bL8w9N5DTzc

is the bass loud enough?

>>127836617
well i'm more than happy to provide feedback, but only on genres I like and listen to and know about... but I never know if anyone is posting that kind stuff if they never say. There was one anon who posted a track and said what genre it was, and it was one I liked, and I gave feedback, and I never heard from them again, but oh well

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it's okay to not finish songs, right anons?

>>127837398
while i agree that internalized capitalism is generally harmful i'm gonna take a wild guess that that the pictured article is ridiculous slop using capitalism as a buzzword and only intends to tell its audience that it's okay to be a hack actually.

>not finishing songs because they're bad ideas
okay
>not finishing because you're lazy and never finish anything
not okay
>finishing something shit because you're still learning how to finish anything at all
very okay
>finishing for fun
okay
>not finishing because you're not having fun
maybe okay. maybe time for you to re-examine your mindset.

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https://voca.ro/1d4sZlsjmWZw

>first attempt at triphop

i need ott but with a crossover that isn't shallow as fuck literally what is this bitch shit deadass i have to nudge shit like fucking 300 hz to actually get it to pick up sometimes wtf

>>127836581
>implying i have a genre in mind when i make music
Unless "weird and shitty" is a genre.

holy fuck i’m so fucking talented this song is such a banger what incredible sounds wow i’m gonna fucking make it so hard

>>127836932
Ruined the song.

>>127829253
Bass is always the hardest for me to grasp. I'm still new to it though. I think you got a good thing going here but I would say the drums are a bit too busy. I love busy and minimal but you have to find the nice middle ground to truly let the sound come out. Plus if you wanna make other tracks with similar sounds you might wanna save those drum techniques for later. Me personally I love doing snare rolls.

>>127837398
I have never heard of anyone having a problem finishing too many tracks lmao

>>127837398
>It's not that I can't finish tracks it's just that
>They are bad so I just move on to the next attempt

>>127833388
It's probably the Apple tts thing that's built in. It's used on a bunch of songs
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PlainTalk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z4hqUxb9MmY

>>127838361
It's actually Microsoft Sam

>>127838128
My biggest problem is an inability to do more than 1 or 2 tracks in a genre before completely switching to something else.

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https://voca.ro/1aNSE2rDLnh0
Been working on this for a good bit. I've been fighting trying to find a good melody for the guitar for a good few days. Would love any suggestions on the melody or if it's good as is. Any other suggestions would be appreciated as well.

>>127784064
Really good. Would love to see that "HEY" a few more times.
>>127792886
A little bit repetitive, but I love the usage of layers and how you add and remove throughout the song.
>>127803316
Kino. Keep going, it's amazing. Would love to see a chorus.
>>127835581
Amazing. Love the slow fade-in of that sound around 0:55. Need to see some drums and bass come in soon though.
>>127837737
You sound like a pro.

>>127837398
For every song you don't finish the % of your chance of finding any success decreases by 1. How's your chances looking, anons?

>>127822390
are you american? eurovision isn't taken seriously at all. the biggest thing that this shitty song has going for it is the homoeroticism to make literal faggots feel validated.

>>127822390
>>127839046
Better than the 2018 winner

>>127838724
dope intro, i could imagine a melodic plucky guitar that accompanies the rhythm of the noise loop

>>127838966
Prolly in the range of negative hundreds, if thats the case!

>>127831645
Sure!

how do i get one template for mastering?

some songs i release are loud in a good way, others are just mixed weird despite using the same master

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https://vocaroo.com/11RIEsT1ODaE
>>127841514
https://gofile.io/d/t1VJnm

>>127841673
>>127841673
Cheers

had an idea and threw something together on the digital clipboard:

https://voca.ro/1cQIGerIUyXR

i thiiiiink the bass needs to be layered more or something to make it more interesting

I kinda dont have the will to make music for the last week and a half or so. I made a bunch of music in the past year, more than i ever made. So do i need a mini break right now or do i have to push through it and grind? I wanna make it, i dont know how realistic that is but i want to be a musician

>>127821890
(he meant best selling)

>>127821890
>>127842885
(meaning he actually believes better selling = better music)

>>127845624
>better selling = better music
explain how it doesn't =)

new virtual riot just dropped

>>127846520
pisses me off.................. t... b... h...

where is my r2r release FUCK

>>127846588
2.0.20(V.R) works fine

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ok this song is going to sound high pitched and a bit goofy, but trust. I'm going for a certain type of aesthetic. Picture this.

>be mosquito
>in city freshly hatched by gutter puddle
>see female mosquito with big proboscis across street
>get brave, get adventurous, fly to her
>dodge car left
>dodge bus right
>dodge car left again, I'm near
>female mosquito with biggest proboscis is right there, bigger than one could imagine
>hatchlings spoke tales of this
>swoop in but feel head smash against glass
>be captured
>men in white coats leer with big eyes
>big probby mosquito lady fades away as I'm carried off
>wake in lab
>electronics buzzing, alarms chirping
>see piles of dead mosquitos in corner
>need escape
>frantically search for exit, but I'm in a glass box
>men arrive back, i play dead
>they top lid off but I'm ready
>make break for it
>fly past barrage of men's slaps and chops
>fly past their shielded face
>fly past their buzzing instruments
>see window open and i feel the fresh air
>escape
>freedom
>search for big probby lady continues with no haste

>>127847129
cool idea and i can hear exactly what you're going for but you really need to work on the gate-ing for that staccato feel and to get that groove going

>>127847231
completely valid point, i forgot to sidechain outside of using soothe2 to cut out the lows... and didn't realize until you said something

>>127842099
I fuck with with it. I do think the lead needs some tlc with the lows to make its less muddy. Maybe throw an OTT on that and the vocals to help brighten them up

>>127841673
it transitions to being incredibly muddy at like 0:24s. Try throwing low passes on anything you dont need low. It makes a world of difference. the grungy slow vibe though is fun. Feels like I'm driving through muddy hellscape

>>127838724
@1:34 throw a low shelf with on that crackly sound and crank it up to give it a real low texture. It would hit the ears sooo well. Over all a fun, unsettling song. It kind of feels like a decent into madness, but you're just staring at static. At least that's what i picture

fl studio or ableton?

>>127849235
Bitwig.

OK so yeah I know it's weird and stops suddenly it's only half finished but:
https://voca.ro/131WZ7OdZkVZ
1. Is the throat singing TOO weird?
2. I can't decide on whether I like the snare, it sounds a little out of place to me but I'm not sure why, I thought about ditching using a snare entirely but the drum kit is the only normal thing about the whole track so I dunno I wanted a second opinion.
3. I really like the sound of the intro instrument before the pads but should I cut it and just start with the pads? Its just fun to play.
Frankly the whole thing is kind of a shitpost but I'm enjoying it. Might as well try to finish it.

>>127836581
Its post-metal inspired ambient cavemancore. I expect an opinion now.
>hey grug what music you like?
>me like metal
>metal? What that?
Heh.

>>127849235
I am also trying to make that choice.
I've been using reaper for guitars/4 piece kinda stuff but wanted to get more into beats/electronic which reaper can do but wanted to see what grass on the other side is like.

>You can download trials for both which is what I am doing.
FL trial is all plugins, you can save your projects but you cannot reopen them until you buy it

Abletons trial is free for one month, all access

I've been enjoying messing around with FL.

>All plugins FL is $450, free updates for life
>Ableton is $440 for standard but $750 for Live if you wanted all that

>Seems like most "pros" overall are on Ableton but there are a few that use FL depending on genre

>>127849815
Literally just pirate them, dude.

>>127849815
i got both (m0nkrus.ru also full of plugins :D) and im using both and trying them out and deciding what i want to stick with long term

i like that ableton has a sick live music arrangement and endless amount of effects on a track while fls only got 10 and no live view (performance mode is shit) but the piano roll is much better, ui feels more smooth and reponsive, and theres way more tutorials