Post your Beatles hot takes. I'll go first..>People only give a fuck about Across The Universe because of the hippy lyrics >Something is gay and boring >People who shit on "Pauls granny shit" are just trying to look tough>Harrison kinda sucked and they were right to cuck him>The medley isn't that good>The Long and Winding Road is contrived as fuck>People who say that Ringo sucks should be publicly stoned >Strawberry Fields and Penny Lane wouldn't have fit anywhere on Sgt Pepper and anyone who says that those songs should be on the album are retarded
>>127832499>the albums have a downgrade in music after rubber soul
>>127832537I'd agree if you said Revolver. They pretty much just became solo artists after that album.
>>127832499>>People only give a fuck about Across The Universe because of the hippy lyricsPhil Spector made that song. The naked version is ass>>Something is gay and boringwrong>>People who shit on "Pauls granny shit" are just trying to look toughcorrect, some of Paul's granny shit are some of the best tracks>>Harrison kinda sucked and they were right to cuck himWrong>>The medley isn't that goodTrue, it really isn't, perhaps if it was only single track it would've been better, but liek this i just can't see it>>The Long and Winding Road is contrived as fuckThat's some of Paul's best granny shit. AGain the Spector version only
George Harrison was the least important member of the Beatles, actually even less important than George Martin desu
>>127832499Damn. Not bad anon, I pretty much agree across the board.>>127832606Also agree, unfortunately. He was the only one who it could have been someone different. But it's almost as if his cucking was fundamental to the maclennon power structure, so I'm not so sure.
>>127832499The White Album is their only honest record.
>>127832606this, Ringo was more important as a guy who got on with John and Paul equally
>>127832499The Beatles are one of the greatest bands of all time but none of their albums are 10/10.
He came down to me, to my house. I lived sort of here. He lived about a mile or so away, and he came down and we were writing some stuff, and we got finished about midnight. And so he was now going to walk home, took off his glasses, walked home the next day. He said, "Oh..".. said, "you know those people on the corner of Booker Avenue?" Said, "Yeah." He said, "They're crazy!" Said, "what are you talking about?" He said, "well, at midnight, when I left you, they were out on the porch of their house playing cards." I said, "you're kidding me." So I had to investigate. So I went round and had a look at what it was without his glasses. It was a Nativity scene.
It's their best album, but most people don't even consider it top 5.
Most of their most popular songs are dreadful. Here Comes the Sun, Strawberry Fields Forever, Yesterday, Let it Be, All You Need is Love, Come Together, Blackbird, etc>>127832767>>127832994Both true
>>127833162>strawberry fields, yesterday and blackbird are awfulAh c'mon...what?!
>>127833224Treacly sentimental slop. In My Life is manages to pull this off, those songs don't
>>127832994It's their best/personal favorite and an important step in their evolution, but also the old meme that Rubber Soul was some hard line in the sand between boyband stuff and le serious artistry unironically fucking pisses me off.
>>127833244>strawberry fields>treacly sentimental slop
>>127832499Why do you hate them so much?
>>127832542It was already like that in Revolver.
>>127832499Here goes:>I am The Walrus is one of the worst Beatles songs>Maxwell's Silver Hammer is one of the best Beatles songs>Paul's granny music is great>Sgt. Pepper is the weakest of their post-Rubber Soul albums>Phil Spector did a great job on Let it Be; all of his decisions made the album better even if Paul didn't like themAnd I also want to echo this point >>127832606
>>127832994If it included Day Tripper and We Can Work It Out, then I might agree.
>>127834334I agree with the granny music and Let It Be and you can keep the rest
>>127832499boring granny music
>>127832499>>127832594>>127832851My hot take is /mu/ was better in 2016 when we all agreed this band was gay and shitty. I doubt any of you would've liked it here back then, but it would've been funny seeing you get bullied.
>>127832499A ton of their early non-single music is hugely overlooked and is better than a lot of their later material
>>127832499Strawberry Fields absolutely belongs on sgt pepper. Penny lane maybe not.
My hot take is their music changes too much inorganically. Im talking chord changes seem random and it pushes a listener away. Yes I think their best one is tommorrow never knows with 2 chords total
Yesterday is meh>>127832606Wrong
>>127835194>>127835204John Lennon wallpaper, have you seen?
>>127832499>People only give a fuck about Across The Universe because of the hippy lyricsDo people now know this song is about John being tired of listening to Cynthia blabber on?
>>127835537No, not every is an unemployed autist like you who researches this stuff
>>127835194Glenn Gould accused them of having bad voice leading (basically how smooth the transitions between chords are).
>>127835547I don't research this stuff.
>>127835579>classical fag complains when something is less than robotically perfectTypical
>>127832499Abbey Road’s second half is horrible
Ringo was the only one who had sense. That's no lie. Paul was HUGE. if john could have got along and kept faith.. John was the Mustaine of the group.
>>127837904Wouldn't go that far. All their albums are fascinating. You can't take that away from them. When you listen to the Beatles, you're listening to their fans, too. This is misunderstood.
Brian wilson's pet sounds and smile help destroy the beatles. The beatles had more problems than the beach boys. Look carefully. Imagine thinking your band controls the world, and then Vietnam happens... so much goes unconsidered here.
>>127835077I Call Your Name is a banger
Beatles sounded nothing like anyone, but many 45 lps, none of them sounded the same. It's a matter of recording and techonology.Paul, in good faith.. pushed for good songs... He was great... Idk the problem. Paul was good. Any body disagrees? Why? Nothing really wrong with johns messages or albums, so what.. But when they started clearly calling each other out on record after the break up... that was a problem. You already know.
>>127837904Abbey Road's second half is amazing, its first half is terrible
>>127832499I personally despise Paul McCartney and think his music sucks
Can’t Buy Me Love c/w You Can’t Do That is a criminally underrated god tier single pairing and the latter has the best Beatles guitar solo.
I really only liked their first and third albums, everything else is largely filler with a few good tracks.i dont understand why people like abbey raod so much. I really only liked golden slumbers/carry that weight. Paul McCartney forever.
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>>127838206He ruined revolver a bit with fluffier songs. Should have did more shit like Eleanor Rigby or For no one
>>127832499Their earlier stuff is the most joyous melodic beautiful material and they went up their own ass a bit after rubber soul. Still amazing material but they dropped off after magical mystery tour. White album is flawed and full of filler
>>127834334>>I am The Walrus is one of the worst Beatles songsHow is that a hot take? No one loves Walrus as a song, it's only notable for John's nonsense lyrics
>>127842059I love Walrus as a song
>>127832499Paul blew it by ditching Jane Asher, who was a total smokeshow cutie who, to this day, looks better than Linda.
>>127842021While I don’t totally agree with everything I do think Rubber Soul was the Beatles at the peak of their powers as a self-contained unit, and arguably the last time all four of them were working more of less on the same page creatively. People talk of it like the start of a new chapter but it could also be viewed as the close of a chapter, after which the band got more highly produced and artistically fragmented, for better or worse.
They should be named Paul McCartney and The Beatles. Paul is on another league, truly something else. Lennon is mid, George sucks and Ringo is... Ringo.
Sgt Pepper is truly their best. I can't even call it rock music, witch is basic and puts it in a basket of bad music in general, but it's a true masterpiece of musical recording.
>>127842766I think it mogs Revolver at least. The consensus swing away from Pepper and toward Revolver pretty much entirely hinges on it being more experimental, unprecedented, and less popular, which is worth celebrating but I don’t think that has to always be synonymous with superior quality. Pepper built on the innovations of Revolver and created a pop-art statement that was both progressive and accessible, which had more to do with it being enormously successful than any marketing hype. It should not be underestimated.
>>127834728Reddit is down the hall and to the left. Don't let the door hit you on the ass.
>>127833244SFF has fantasy and childish whimsy in it. In My Life is a greeting card with overwrought harmonies.
>>127837943Reddit was a fucking mistake
>>127842990I don’t know of any greeting cards that express the bitter, melancholic side of nostalgia, much less with the mature grace of In My Life.
The Beatles broke up because Paul was an asshole. Lovely guy, but his poor mental state in 1970 caused him to act like a dick. Just read the wikipedia page for "The Long And Winding Road." or Let It Be Naked. >approved Spector's Let It Be, did not respond to the multiple chances he was given to provide input on production>changes mind and freaks out on people>changes phone number without telling anyone>sends letter to Alan Klein demanding to remove Spector's additions to the album>causes confusion>literally refuses to elaborate>breaks up Beatles, releases secret solo album the same day
>>127834334>>Sgt. Pepper is the weakest of their post-Rubber Soul albumsHard Agree. It was their shitty attempt at psychedelic. MMT was their refined attempt at it.
>>127832499my favorites>hey bulldog>bungalow bill>your mother should know>I am the walrus>two of us>I me mine>fixing a hole>good morning good morning>a day in the life>think for yourself>you’ve got to hide your love away>I’ve just seen a face>all together now>it’s all too much>revolution 9what does this make me?
>>127843399I thought the first to anaunce the leave was John
>>127843399Paul is an aspie
1962-64 is SSS+ gold deluxe elder god tier, and the Beatles would still be the greatest band of all time even if history changed and they broke up in 1965 or something.
>>127832665TWA, to me, is a 10/10 album buried in fluff.
>>127844053trvth nvke
>>127832499Paul's creative contributions very heavily rely on John's irony-poisoned sarcasm to be palatable. John was what made them "cool"; his little interjections of 'CAN'T GET NO WORSE' make "Getting Better" hip. It's was John's temperament that made the beatles cool, that made them transgressive, and what so usefully countered Paul's earnestness. The accusations of "granny music" are entirely justified, even if I think all of those songs are well-composed.Also Paul should have obviously given Oh, Darling! to John to sing. Paul is great but he completely lost his humility, even if John seemed more vociferously arrogant.
>>127832499>"Imagine all the people" by the Beatles is a shit song.
>>127844067I agree but also on some level I like the fluff. It's the only album that really explored the dark corners of their minds, truly it is their darkest record they ever recorded. It's as Paul and John indulged all of their intrusive thoughts to get it out of their system before closing the shop down.
>>127844199>Also Paul should have obviously given Oh, Darling! to John to sing. Paul is great but he completely lost his humility, even if John seemed more vociferously arrogant.This is definitely partly true, on the other hand I find a lot of John's solo songs musically very underdeveloped and often uninteresting, without the input of Paul (and the other Beatles and Martin),It was very, very uncommon that the writer of a song also didn't sing lead, so I was always curious why John Lennon was so insistant with this song. John also didn't have the voice for this song, at least in that key.
>>127844199Paul's songs on Rubber Soul prove that he could be just as biting as John, and John had plenty of maudlin moments that many of his hagiographers would probably want to forget. The stereotypical roles that boomers have rigidly slotted them into for 60 years are just reductive and boring.
>>127844199>>127844297Paul also sang Day Tripper despite it being a John song. He could affect a powerful, charismatic rocker voice and John always appreciated that.
>>127844318>exception exists>this disproves the generalisation I hear you but come on.
>>127842990gay
>>127844332He could but god does it get old. He did it far too often, he really wanted to sound american. Something I appreciate about John is how he never quite lost his scouser affectation while singing. Even on "yer blues" it comes across.
>>127844318>Paul's songs on Rubber Soul prove that he could be just as biting as John,Well, yes, but Rubber Soul was before the Granny Shit era, wasn't it.
>>127845801Michelle was his first granny song
>>127832499i literally couldve been ringo and the beatles would have been virtually the same
>>127832499John's best songs were all released in 1965
>>127832499My hot take is that I love this band. My other hot take is that John Lennon deserves to be raped by me specifically
>>127832994Literally everybody has Rubber Soul in their top 5 if not top 3. What are you smoking?
>>127832499The originals on Beatles for sale are really underrated
>>127846239TRVTH NVKE
>>127844332They shared lead vocal on DT. That's why it sounds so good.
>>127847784Based take, imagine not thinking I'm A Loser is one of their best tracks.
Magical mystery tour is better than sgt peppers
>>127832499>/mu/sers shit on the beatles because they are jealous no artists from their era are as good at pop music.Hot take.
