Cardi B ends k-pop, NIN beats Fleetwood Mac
>>127844470The sales are too low
how come they all got UMG or WMG after them?
>>127844498It seems about right. An earlier report was saying she was on track to do about 120k on streams, and she did under a 100k on pure sales, which is close to her pure sales last time.
>reissue of a pre-fame 6/10 50 year old album debuts at number 6recording industry is so fucking dead
>>127844521WMG = Warner Music GroupUMG = Universal Music GroupSME = Sony Music EntertainmentThese are the 3 big record label groups that control the lion share of the market. Most record labels like Republic, RCA, Interscope, etc. are owned by one of these 3. That is what establishes a label and artist as a Major Label or Major Label recording artist. Artist that are on a label that is not owned by one of these 3 are on an independent label, such as Artic Monkeys. Artist that have no label are independent artist.
>>127844470>physical albums
>>12784456840k pure sales is pretty good for 2025. Its most likely old boomers buying.
>>127844593so it's like you only get airplay if you are part of these 3 labels? like how all the products in the supermarket are all owned by the same people?
>>127844642Yes but you need an audience for this tho.
Cardi B is such a scam artists. she does anything in her power to get her album sales up besides before the album came out she went platinum because of the one song WAP
>>127844636Twenty one pilots went number one. That's like the 3rd or 4th rock or metal act to do that
>>127844699>Twenty one pilots>rock or metal
>>127844642Yeah, the music record label business is an oligopoly. It used to be the big 4 in the 90s, but EMI got absorbed by the other 3. I am not completely aware of the whole history, but basically these 3 bought up the entire market share through acquisitions and mergers. Major labels have all of the distribution, budgets, industry connections, and promotional power, but have shady contracts and with a huge rosters of artist you can end up being ignored if the person that signed you gets let go or something.Independent artist have to do everything themselves. The digital age is the best its ever been for independent artist because it makes distribution a lot simpler. You can just upload to Spotify yourself; however, you have a lot more overhead and you have no budget for marketing. Thus, despite earning 100%, independent artist are never as successful as major label artist, because they can't compete with the major's big bucks.Independent labels are mostly necessary for non-mainstream niche genres of music like weird electronic music, or extreme black metal. Major's typically have no interest in that stuff. Indie's have smaller rosters and better contracts. However, Indie labels have much smaller budgets, and lack the International distribution power of Majors. The majors have offices in every country, where an indie label can do good in the local region, they struggle with international releases. Even the biggest indie label giants like Artic Monkeys, tend to be regional. Artic Monkeys don't do that well in Asia compared to if they were on a major. To get around this a lot of time indie labels will do joint ventures with a Major. For example, TDE is an indie label but SZA has a joint venture with UMG, so despite TDE being her primary label SZA is considered a major label artist.
>>127844816I don't really think the record label business should be an oligopoly. Especially, in the streaming age. Some industries naturally form oligopolies like Internet Service Providers, or the Semi-Conductor business because they are extremely complicated and costly. I guess it makes things easier for the tech bros in a way since they just need to work out deals with these 3 and they will gain the rights to 80% of all music, but it also makes it easy for them to get bullied. Spotify basically had to give up equity to these 3 in order to get the majors to put their artist on their. Spotify is basically owned by them so all playlisting, and front page of new music is completely controlled by the majors. That is why independent artist cannot compete with them.
>>127844699Not Metal. Not Rock.
>>127845230What is it then "alt" music?
Twenty one pilots is just modern nu metal is comes from the same category and place of bands like Korn and Linkin Park etc
>>127845573>indie rock
>>127844676There is nothing wrong with putting WAP in her album. What else is she supposed to do with it, just leave it forgotten? She actually pretty smart to do so because zoomers are obsessed with charts and only listening to things that are popular or viral. Them seeing that her album went platinum before it even came out makes them want to get on the bandwagon because they think she's "hot" right now, not because they like her music.
>>127844816>Even the biggest indie label giants like Artic Monkeys, tend to be regional. Artic Monkeys don't do that well in Asia compared to if they were on a major.wut
>>127845230their new album is rock, they've been irrelevant for a while though
>>127846773Zoomers are also very wary of industry plants.
>>127847371They are still big, but they would be much bigger if they were on a major.Keep in mind Spotify is not a very good measure outside of the West.
>>127844568the industry is doing fine and this album will probably leave the top 100 next week (it got zero streams)
>>127846376>>127845573>post punk revival
>>127847437Spotify doesn't represent global music consumption accurately because it is only popular in certain regions of the globe. A lot of countries don't have Spotify or Spotify is not popular compared to other domestic streaming services. The major labels already have all of that distribution and marketing infrastructure worked out for those countries.China is a pretty good example, as Spotify is not operational there, but all of the majors have relationships with Tencent Music which pretty much controls the domestic Chinese music market. That infrastructure for distribution and marketing is already set up. Independent artist and indie labels have to go make deals themselves through Tencent or some other local partner to get distribution in streaming and physicals in the domestic Chinese market. Many indie labels, and independents don't have the operations to do that and so, they just don't really bother with some global markets.
