I find it beautiful that out of all subgenres, a thrash metal band ended up being the most famous band of metal and the genre's definitive face. not heavy metal, glam metal, nu metal, alternative metal, which in theory are more accessible than thrash.
>>127916706Yea
>>127916706>nu metal, alternative metal,not metal
>>127916706they were only thrash for like two albums at most. their most popular releases are 100% heavy metal
why do so many metallica fans like metallica and no other metal bands?
>>127916706>a thrash metal bandIs it really?
>>127917112I love loads of Thrash Metal, but only Metallica ever went Double Diamond. Yes, The Black Album is only incidentally Thrash, but no other Metal band achieved what they had.
>>127917112my most listened 10 metal bands are Iron Maiden, Metallica, Judas Priest, Queensryche, Megadeth, Faith No More, Helloween, Slayer, Black Sabbath and System of a Down
>>127917173Metallica went double diamond because they made metal that was palatable to people who otherwise would not like metal. If you are a metal fan this is not a thing to be proud of.
>>127917112A more accurate statement would be that metallica fans only enjoy surface-level metal.see>>127917195
>>127917196I'd be very proud were I Metallica. That means others have a chance to check out the rest of my discography and I have a steady stream of income from those content to just listen to The Black Album.
>>127917228If I were in Metallica I'm sure I'd be thrilled with the money too. They are great businessmen. That doesn't mean their fans aren't surface level metal fans. Its so extremely rare you meet a Metallica fan and they are into anything remotely interesting.
>>127917209yea Im not a fan of literal who black metal bands that screech incomprehensible gibberish on the microphone and say that their attempt of playing disfigured noises on the guitar is art.mainstream metal is already the best the genre can offer and I've been staying on this lane for more than 15 years already.
>>127917248Filtered lmao>mainstream metal is already the best the genre can offerLOL spoken like an absolute faggot
>>127917248You just hate arthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=veJSeDF3bsUthat is better than anything you listen to
>>127917264>>127917277you are NOT more interesting for listening to inaccessible shit. literally nobody cares about your dogshit unknown bands praised by a circlejerk of 100 'tr00s' worldwide.
>>127917112Unironically it’s the vocals. Other metal bands at the time were either high pitched (Megadeth) or growly (slayer)
>>127917112because most metallica fans nowadays are normies who just want one metal band they can wear a shirt of for the novelty
>>127917292I'm more interesting to metal fans, which is the point I have been trying to make the whole time. Once again metallica fans show their disdain towards anything remotely challenging.
>starts screeching about black metal stereotypes out of nowhereI can't tell if these posts are bait or genuine but I'm pretty sure it's one guy. I'm starting to recognize his posting style.
>>127917312keep seething about these so called 'normies' my man, I am sure you will go far in your social life this way
>>127917325The best part is these "people" clearly listen to 15 seconds of one black metal song then just write off the all extreme metal in its entirety and insist their entry level stuff is the best.
>>127917248tourist moment
Maybe all metal heads are metallica fans, not all metallica fans are metal heads
>>127917332I didn't say anything about normies, try to follow the conversation more closely.
Or all are both. I very doubt there's any metallica fan who isn't also a fan of at least one other metal band ergo all metallica fans are metal heads just sometimes more picky
>>127917195Add some Exodus, Testament, Overkill and Kreator in the mix and you have a super kino playlist.
>>127917360it was implied. it is clear that you argue like that because you think popular = bad and by association you also look down on the 'normies' who listen to popular things. there's a reason why these bands are POPULAR in the first place and why nobody else knows the bands you like. not to say that everything popular is good, but most of the time that will be the case because of simple logic.now Im not also saying for you to drop all your obscure artists, to each their own I guess, but I hope you understand you are the absolute outlier and most if not all people you meet out there will dislike the things you listen to. you will have to dig way way deep to find people in real life who share your same tastes.
Everything popular is also in some way least offensive to the widest amount of people. Beer is a good example the most popular beers are also the beers lacking in strong flavours, they're easy drinking, kinda banal in a sense
Movies are another example following the same principles. The most popular films of all time are fairly simple and easy to watch and not particularly challenging, some of them are also very good but real film critics have preferences and a different expectation
>>127917487I don't think popular = bad. I am in fact a fan of Metallica and most of the other huge metal bands, I just like far more outside of that extremely narrow selection unlike most Metallica fans. I'm just wondering what people like you have against the rest of the genre.
>>127917487>there's a reason why these bands are POPULAR in the first place and why nobody else knows the bands you likeIt has more to do with marketing and being in the right place at the right time than pure talent
>>127917112Honestly, Kill 'em All just sounded perfect, great composition, great energy, doesn't sound stock *smacks lips*, but after that it was a slow downfall, even though I like Metallica and I respect them I consider most of their albums to be commercial trash. I think metal as a genre is overdone in general, many artists sound the exact same, don't bring anything to the table or just outright sound like shit, very few metal artists actually get a pass while the rest is just generic bargain bin stuff.
>>127916706>not heavy metalBut their by far most popular things are heavy metal songs and hard rock ballads from a heavy metal album (Black album).
>>127916706They played the game of the music industry, worship baphomet, have jewish managers who insisted a mainstream shift in 1990, and currently harvest blood from their fans on tour for nefarious purposes. Each successive release gets worse but they use it as tax write offs for their studio, record label and vinyl company.They are no different than anyone else in the big leagues. Thrash was the starting point, not the destination.
>>127917195>System of a DownNot metal.
>>127916706Metallica were one of the biggest metal bands of all time and still are. They are to thrash what sabbath are to heavy metal.
If you're a metalhead and don't like 'tallica, you simply haven't listened to their debut loud enough or to "...aJfA" on headphones.
>>127917801>>127917830
>>127916706their most popular album is black album which is accessible pop-rockstop being dumbmetal will never be popular and it shouldnt be
>>127917248filtered tourist
>>127917830>"...aJfA" on headphones.why? is that the only way you'll possibly hear the bass guitar?
>>127916706Their best and most famous songs feature acoustic guitars and clear melodic e-guitar plays with barely any distortion.
>>127917567honestly, it has more to do with the fanbase. when I first tried these more extreme bands I right away concluded that it just wasn't for me, I thought it was alright since this also happens to be the case for most people. as time passed by I managed to revaluate some of them, but no matter how much I tried my opinion remained more or less the same. 'how people actually can enjoy them' I kept asking myself, but it was mostly that.but then the moment I mention such experience to circlejerk places like /mu/, I open the gates for hordes of pretentious tr00s saying that I don't actually like metal, the bands I listen to aren't metal, that I'm a plebian and yadda yadda yadda. so I feel that I have to reminder these uppity piece of shits that 99% of the people also don't like their obscure bands and they are no better for listening to things nobody else listens.
Metallica were barely thrash after the first album. What made them huge was their anthemic heavy metal with some progressive leanings like One and MoP.
>>127918003cope, Black Album IS metal no matter how much you seethe about it. the only exception are Nothing Else Matters and The Unforgiven. Holier Than Thou, The Struggle Within and Through the Never can even be considered thrash.
>>127918144>Holier Than Thou, The Struggle Within and Through the Never can even be considered thrash.Yeah, nah. It's heavy metal. It's not even the right tempo to be considered thrash.
I will just say to you faggots that I recently talked to a dude who had no clue what 'Judas Priest' was
>>127918078Most people who just dive headfirst into extreme metal aren't going to like it right away. For the vast majority of people who are into it, we got into it incrementally. You first hear Metallica and it blows you away. They you listen to Slayer, and all of a sudden Metallica just doesn't hit as hard. Continue down that path for a few years and all of a sudden you enjoy extreme metal. When I first got into death metal I hated OSDM stuff and could only enjoy catchy, melodic bands like The Black Dahlia Murder, but nearly 20 years later I love the nasty, raw sounding stuff and melodic stuff doesn't interest me as much. It can be a slow process but if you are truly interested int he genre you naturally go in this direction.
>>127918305well that certainly wasn't my case, my very first metal bands that I became fan were Iron Maiden and Metallica and they still are the bands I listen the most after all these yearsthe most extreme bands I can think of that I somewhat enjoy to at least a degree would be Death, Bathory, Obituary, Opeth, Behemoth... but I'm still far from being a fan. my lane of metal is more heavy, thrash, power, prog, alt.
>>127917309People wear Black Flag, Misfits and Nirvanna shirts to this day because they think it's cool even though they don't like those bands and have likely never listened to them. No one really wears Met shirts, though. Why not?
>>127918048They tuned out the bass after the first album.
>>127918262Great, also let him know Rob Halford drugged & raped Jani Lane in the 80s.
>>127918550Who's that?
>>127916706Nothing Else Matters is my favorite thrash metal song
>>127918566Halford is the singer of Priest. Lane is the singer from Warrant. Lane developed alcoholism due to the trauma and passed away.Check out Uncle Tom's Cabin by Warrant.Lars is in the Cherry Pie album thank you list.
Thrash purists are the worst. It actually sucks and that’s why Metallica, Slayer and Megadeth are all the most popular and well know and why they moved on from it.
>>127919118their most popular albums are all pure thrash besides the black album
They picked the right name. Thats it
>>127920086I also thought about this but then considered how normies might be turnt of by a band name that has 'metal' in it, yet they broke into those clearly.
>>127919118SLAYER never moved on from thrash, poser.
>>127917196Nah they have a lot to be proud of. People that say shit like this are just retarded metal snobs who think they should have just kept the same sounds over and over like Slayer.
>>127917243Lol there's all kinds of Metallica fans that like tons of different metal. Sounds like your just talking to a bunch of faggot posers.
>>127920235"normie" was not a word back when your parents were still in grade school, so stop trying to apply it to concepts in the past zoom-zoom
>>127916706Load [Elektra, 1996]One of the nice things about being old is that I'm neither wired to like metal nor tempted to fake it. Just as I figured, these here-come-the-new-heroes-same-as-the-old-heroes could no more make a "grunge" album than they could do double-entry bookkeeping. Grunge simply isn't their metier. So no matter what riff neatniks think, for outsiders this is just a metal record with less solo room, which is good because it concentrates their chops, and more singing, which isn't because they can't. C+
>>127916706Metallica is a crazy case because they were so good right off the bat, like, you listen to their first two albums and can't believe it was a bunch of drunk teenagers who made that and they kept on doing every aspect right up until the black album, which by that point they decided to go for financial stability but I respect that, because it was their right to do so and the music they did was still really good, of wolf and man and whatever I may roam are some of their finest ever.
>>127921119this guy's writing hurts to read.
>>127917755>They played the game of the music industry, worship baphometCould you go more into depth about that? What damning evidence is there?
>>127918078the worst /mu/ posters always try to hide behind faux-/pseudo-elitism and -enlightenment to justify why they listen to and recommend trash and hate actually listenable musicpeople who are smart will cease entertaining their "opinions" as good faith once they realize that they find themselves dreading opening a link on here 9 times out of 10you're not "uncultured/pleb/whatever-pejorative-they-want-to-throw-out", they just listen to cacophonous/dull noise on purpose
>>127921119>>127923143I don't read typical critics like him because they never say anything about the music, only about the context, which is just about pointless in the context of their purported role; you're sitting there reading about nothing but their psychosociocultural reasons for "liking" or not liking what they're "reviewing"
>>127921083normies always existed, doesn't matter if the word didn'tjust like incels always existed despite the word being relatively new
>Metallica weren't really thrashmaybe that's why they're so beloved because thrash isn't that great a genre.
>>127923808my personal pet theory is that it's largely rooted in trauma from high school. many people who browse here were asocial outcasts (obviously) and thus wholesale reject the lifestyles (everything from their clothing to the media they consoomed) of those that actually had friends and were more or less normal growing up. they see artists that their bullies/oneitis listened to, they immediately switch gears and start shitting on it, no matter how petty the reason. it's the only defense mechanism they have and in turn it becomes their whole personality.
>>127920611>Sounds like your just talking to a bunch of faggot posers.Yes, those are typically the people making metallica threads on /mu/
>>127917195>NOOO YOU CAN'T JUST LISTEN TO POPULAR BANDS WHO BECAME POPULAR FOR GOOD REASON>YOU NEED TO LISTEN TO MORE ONE MAN BEDROOM BLACK METAL PROJECTS LIKE ME>>127917277This sounded really cool...until the vocals came in and the beat switched. I fucking knew that was going to happen lol.
>>127926714It's this 100%. I used to post on various music forums back in the day and I would see this play out time and time again. It's not even exclusive to metal fans although they probably are the biggest offender.
>>127916706They're just the "face" because they called themselves Metallica. They're lame
>>127927259The vocals are one of the best things about that band. Very unique.
>>127926714>my personal pet theory is that it's largely rooted in trauma from high school. many people who browse here were asocial outcasts (obviously) and thus wholesale reject the lifestyles (everything from their clothing to the media they consoomed) of those that actually had friends and were more or less normal growing up. they see artists that their bullies/oneitis listened to, they immediately switch gears and start shitting on it, no matter how petty the reason. it's the only defense mechanism they have and in turn it becomes their whole personality.lol I don't know what you're talking about XD
>>127928560exactly that. fucker's entire career has been based around getting back at his high school bullies.
>>127926714I don't disbelieve this.
>>127928585who were his bullies? do-woppers? greaser kids?
>>127917167Uh yesh?
