P4k review just dropped.https://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/taylor-swift-the-life-of-a-showgirl/Thoughts?
my thoughts are i drink alcohol and goon to charli xcx tummy pics
>>127981317It sounds just like all her other albums and sabrina carpenter. Not sure why everyone is tripping out.
>>127981317Very staid and safe review. Says literally nothing that you wouldn't see said in a thread here, just way more politely. Typical modern day p4k.
>>127981356Because its all fucking garbage and people are sick of it
>>127981382So you think they should've been meaner? Or nicer?
>>127981317Is the song with "Ophelia" in the title on this album? I heard 1 minute of that trash on the radio driving to work. The lyrics sounded like something a 10 year old could've come up with.
>>127981356>>127981408This review is a major turning point. I don't think people understand. This marks the end of poptimism. The culture is about to change dramatically (for the better) in the next five years.
>>127981409They should try to actually understand the songs and the lyrics
>>127981409Not necessarily meaner, but if they're going to give it under a 6 anyway, they might as well say something with some bite to it instead of a wishy-washy "it's a silly album, but it should be the only pop album you need (5.9 out of 10 btw)". They're willing to say they don't like it by the rating, but they're not actually willing to *say* it.
>>127981425>I'm 35 but I'm pretending that I'm still in the 10th grade and my crush left me>I'm 35 but I'm pretending that I'm still in the 10th grade and my crush left me>I'm 35 but I'm pretending that I'm still in the 10th grade and my crush left me>I'm 35 but I'm pretending that I'm still in the 10th grade and my crush left meThat enough for you?
>>127981457See this is just an incredibly bad faith take. If you actually went into this album with an open mind and actually tried to understand the lyrics. You'd realise what a profound and complex song writer she truly is
>>127981424>The culture is about to change dramatically (for the better) in the next five years.>(for the better)
>>127981494We're about to see the return of true metal \m/
>>127981479>If you actually went into this album with an open mind and actually tried to understand the lyrics. You'd realise what a profound and complex song writer she truly is
>>127981317Too high
>5.9yeah, that's about right, maybe a tad generous
>>127981516Well you can be an incel your whole life or understand Taylor. Because theres no in-between.
>>127981543Youre a delusional swiftie
using Christgau's rating scale this should be a C minus
>>127981568delusional!? It's just a fact that Taylor Swift's music is high art packaged in an accessable way. Life of a showgirl is amazing, just objectively speaking. Like your purposely trying to not understand her but your not cool just acting insane. She's amazing and your bein trash but like on purpose.
>>127981317They have rated as the worst Taylor Swift album she has ever made
>>127981619They will f**king pay for this
>>127981317>PitchforkHasn't been relevant in 15 years and I can't fucking stand her music
>>127981543>>127981601High quality trolling
>>127981646Everyone is always saying this, but I personally still pay attention to their scores and like to read their reviews.
>>127981756Why
bump, the people must know
i have a headache from crying listening to Ruin the Friendship
>>127981619holy shit I forgot in 2019 they went back and reviewed all her albums, glazing themwhat a low point for poptimism.
>>127981317still too generous. should be a 4/10
>>127981619>red is a 9fucking slop list, they obviously care nothing for song quality or storytelling and just want pop bangersworthless opinion
fantano has to one up p4k buy giving it a 2 or a 3. then he has to hide in a bomb shelter for when the swifties come after him
P4k's way of using decimal points have always been weird. 0.1 points away from being a 6 is very generous.
>>127981512>the return of true metalmeanwhile sleep token is becoming the face of mainstream metal
>>127982060I think they have a bunch of people listen to it and then just average out the score, but I get you.
https://www.stereogum.com/2325341/taylor-swift-the-life-of-a-showgirl-sales/news/>but p4k rated her poorlyso? she's making day one multi-platinum
>>127981479Are you one of those people who listens to the song and goes: > "OMG that line was about *CURRENT BOYFRIEND*> "OMG that line was about *PREVIOUS BOYFRIEND*> "OMG that line was about *MASTERS HEIST*
>>127981543I'm married
>>127981619What a garbage list. Let me correct that for you: > Taylor Swift 7.5> Fearless 7.5> Speak Now 8.0> Red8.5> 19899.0> Reputation 7.0> Lover9.0> Folklore 9.0> Evermore8.5> Midnights6.5> The Tortured Poets Department 1.0> Life of a Showgirl1.5
>>127982565I mostly agree with you but I'd change to>reputation 8.5>lover7.5
>>127981317She’s over
>>127981422>the LAND>the SEA>the SKY>>127981619>boRED a 9tired of this retrospective glazing
>>127981424Taylor Swift has just stopped Sabrina from releasing a new album next year. I don't know what to think of that.
>>127981408>people are sick of itthe new Tay album is setting records for sales & streaming. album release party movie won at the box office this weekend. It is, by all objective measures a success.Subjectively it's been a very mixed bag, and it is a mediocre 3.5/5 album, but II feel badly for those of you who have to cope by cherrypicking the bad reviews. "if it's a bad review, then they're based; if it's good then it's an industry shill". >>127981424>buh buh poptimism is dead! this is the turning point where people will stop liking what I don't like!thoughts and prayers. cope and seethe.
>>127981317>>127983305also, friendly reminder that there's a whole lotta screeching about p4k when they like things /mu/ doesn't like:Fetch the Bolt Cutters by Fiona Apple = P4k 10TPAB by Kendrick = P4k 9.3Carrie & Lowell by Sufjan Stevens = P4k 10so let's be honest. your reaction to the p4k review of TLoaS says more about you than it does about the new Tay album.
>>127983305Poptimism is dead. We're witnessing the rise of true metal, metal will dominate the charts once again!
>>127982565makes me curious. as someone who isn't familiar with her albums, what about the last 2 do you hate so much?
>>127981408Taylor might be starting her downward trajectory, but she'll always be popular to some degree. There's not going to be a fall out. It's normal for things to peak in popularity and then slowly phase out.>>127981317Pitchfork hasn't been relevant in over a decade.>>127983417Better off with poptimism, although I don't think poptimism is really a thing.
>>127983746No. Metal will defeat pop music.
>>127983746>I don't think poptimism is really a thing.Yes it is. It means pop supremacy. Deranged losers faggots and femcels astro turf dumb retarded mediocrity just because its a hot woman and theyre doing 3rd rate dance pop music. If not then we would have more diversity in musical styles. Its all stereotypical now. Either country music, rap or pop. If youre a chud and white youre into country music and nothing else to these peoole.
>>127983828>Deranged losers faggots and femcels astro turf dumb retarded mediocrity just because its a hot woman and theyre doing 3rd rate dance pop music.That's just pop music.>If not then we would have more diversity in musical styles. Its all stereotypical now. Either country music, rap or pop. If youre a chud and white youre into country music and nothing else to these peoole.That's to do with the industry, not some marginal internet poptimist movement. >>127983810Metal is deeply gay and sucks.
>>127981317Poet Department Store was boring ballad after balladFans forgave her, some enjoyedHo Girl is just phoning it inMight have passed for an 8.0 if she had never released 1989But 1989 happened10 years agoTaylor had a good run but it’s time to come down, down, down, down, down, down
>>127983881Metal is not gay. 80s style heavy metal will be the dominant genre soon.
>>1279838991989 was 40 years ago, Anon
>>127981422AI came up with it. She doesn't write her own material.
>>127981424the retards who listen to taylor swift are not the same retards who think p4k is relevant >>127983810>>127983417you gotta be 18+ to post here, champ
>>127984127I'm in my 40s bro. Metal music is overdue for a comback bands like Metallica, Slayer, Megadeth and Anthrax are all overdue a comeback \m/.
>>127984147Polka music is even more overdue for a comeback. Step aside, metal wimp.
>>127983810I can live with that. But I still want to listen to some pop. Who is a /metal/ approved pop girl?
>>127981317>YOU CAN MAKE THE COBRAS DANCE BUT NOT MEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>127982041>Taylor Swift>capable of quality songs and good storytellingEvery song is the same. She's got hurt by a man or people have been mean to her. Everyone's sick of hearing a billionaire whine. Go back to the other place, faggot.
>>127983305>cherrypickingEveryone has said this is shit. Her own retarded fans are coping by saying it's satire. They'll lap up anything this old washed up hag does but this whole thing has been a disaster.
>>127984359TDS really is a thing.
>>127984170True metal is the greatest genre of all time.
>>127984376Actually true pop is the greatest genre of all time. You've probably never hear it.
>>127984181>Who is a /metal/ approved pop girl?I can't speak for /metal/, but as a metalhead, I'll speak for myself.
>>127984181Go to youtube and in the comment box of every terrible girly pop artist video you'll find a comment that says "I'm actually a metalhead, but I love (insert terrible gay pop bitch here)."
>>127984407Does it fucking matter? Like what you like. No need to be insecure, and an endorsement from a metalhead means next to nothing. I find such exercises tedious.
>>127984418>Does it fucking matter?I was responding to a post which asked a question.
>>127984433Not aimed at you, but just the sentiment in general. Who gives a shit?
>>127984418On this shithole board it needs to matter now more than ever, so much dogshit on the catalogue and actually good music is spammed with “trust fund shill” it’s infuriating the state of the board and the shitty mods and jannies.
>>127984418>>127984443Dude cmon beo. Everyone remembers their first Metallica song or the first time they stepped into the Iron Maiden. In 5 years nobody will remember Taylor Swaft.
>>127984558think Mariah Carey who was massive for a lot of years but left no legacy outside one shitty Christmas song
>>127981317Why do normies love this slop?
>>127984572Exactly or all those shitty teen-metal bands from the 00s like Bimp Bizkit and Papa roach. No one cares bro
>>127984577It's not slop, she's a very talented young woman who really connects with her audience. You should try listening to this record with an open mind, for me it's album of the decade.
>>127984605*woman
>>127984605Ywnbaw and this shit is trash
>>127984612>>127984635Wtf is wrong with you please explain to me. Why do you see a very talented young lady and you just filled with rage? Is there any explanation besides ince bullshit
>>127984650*Incel bullshit
>>127984650You're seething between dilations, aren't you?
>>127981317this is still too highpitchfork can't stop being poptimist, it's like a drug for them
>>127981317i sat through 3 complete listens.i concluded there were 4 good songs i think.eldest daughterruin the friendshipcancelledand fourth one i think is maybe honey (i forget).
>>127984681It doesn't matter that I'm trans you dumbass. My point still stands, there is no motivation besides stupid incel bullshit, like you can even explain yourself your just full of chudhate.
>>127984516>>127984558>>127984572>>127984589You know what the problem is? We're men. We do not relate to music the same way women do.
>>127984706Well my friend we need to make sure that more women hear heavy metal music.
>>127984715>more women hear heavy metal music.The only sort of women you'll attract are tourists, those who seek to signal and the occasionally introverted/antisocial girl who's probably a mess. You might find one well-adjusted girl into Metal, but they're rarer than unicorns.
>>127984722Just gotta play it louder \m/
This album and its rollout is a total right wing cultural victory, of course pitchfork hates it lol
>>127983719NTA but theyre just not very good. her first three were more country albums, then from red-lover she was on a hot streak of crowdpleasing pop bangers. nothing that id hold up as high art, but they knew what they were trying to do and did it well. folklore and evermore came out during covid and were music that was about mostly made up storytelling rather than "a boy dumped me and im sad". people really liked these and they got a lot of praise for their lyricism.then she did midnights, which was i think an attempt to go back to the pop eras, but fell a little flat but we can kind of skip overtortured poets department seems to have been her attempt to lean into this idea of her being an amazing storyteller/lyricist. shes always been known for (supposedly) writing her own music, but after the covid albums people kept hyping up how poetic she was. problem is, those albums were co-written by bon iver, aaron dessner, and joe alwyn, and in hindsight, they did the heavy lifting. tortured poets is THIRTY songs, which all sound the exact same. its her doing the same bad lana del rey impression over and over with lyrics like "touch me while your bros play grand theft auto" and "take my ring off of my index finger and put it on the finger people put wedding rings on". shes also absolutely seething that people reacted badly to her dating matty healy because he went on cumtown and that gets more songs than her now-fiance kekthe new album returns (imo) to solid pop production (because she finally ditched antonoff and brought back max martin), but theres nothing 1989-tier instrumental-wise (she said in a documentary she gives producers less control now), but it doesnt matter because the lyrics are still retarded>he dickmatised me and his redwood opened my thighsshe went from making simple, effective pop music to falling for her own hype and believing herself to be a far better writer than she actually is. sorry for long post but i think the context is relevant
>>127981408White women will never be sick of Taylor. It's her core fanbase.
>>127984722insane cope from someone who has never met a metalhead chickwhen you go see metal live are you covering your eyes and ears so you dont see pale bitches with piercingsor you think theyre all being dragged there?i agree that women relate to music differently but yr just wrong
>it doesn't sound enough like reputation>also we gave reputation a 6.5
>>127984698>It doesn't matter that I'm transI'd say it matters quite a bit. Not only did you lose your penis but also your ability to hear.
>>127983719In layman's terms they're just very phoned in. It's kind of like comparing Empire Strikes Back to Rise of Skywalker (as much as I'd hate comparing TS to Star Wars.) The other albums had very catchy, yet complex seeming arrangements marched with lyrics that seemed poetic or a cut above the rest. I remember the first time I heard Teardrops On My Guitar I was on a very boring road trip and allcthe songs were blending together until that came on and I was just captivated for the entire song, then afterwards literally was like: "What the heck was that." She had a lot more serious and emotional songs like (Tim McGraw, Begin Again, Cowboy Like Me, Peace), songs that almost seemed to border on hard rock and could seem to be described as operatic (Haunted, Sparks Fly, Long Live), power pop (Starlight, Cruel Summer, All You Had to Do Was Stay), even her more simple dancey songs seemed a cut above the rest and really socked you in the mouth (I Forgot That You Existed, 22, I Knew You Were Trouble When You Walked In, Delicate, Style, Blank Space, Shake It Off, Wildest Dreams, Mean, Speak Now, Better Than Revenge), and then of course there's the songs that really sold her which were the ones that felt like a woman in love just belting her heart out, either through pure infatuation or heartbreak that no other artist could touch (Red, White Horse, Enchanted, Out of the Woods, The Way I Loved You, Death By a Thousand Cuts, Mine, Back To December, Dress, You Belong With Me), and then she also had these songs which I can only describe as a "quiet anthem" that while having this subtle and subdued vibe also felt like they were arena rock anthems (Begin Again, Clean, Ours, Treacherous, Everything Has Changed, Hey Stephen)And mixed in with all that was always some really great lyricism (Sparks Fly, Cowboy Like Me) and amazing arrangements (False God) the latest albums are just:> OMG trolls are mean, how about I suck your dick?
>>127985874Actually I'm ftm and my cock is bigger than yours faggot.
>>127983899The first album that was honestly a misstep on a first listen and "needed to marinate" was Evermore. When she came out with the whole "sister album" thing it grew on me and now I do really like it, but if I'm being honest that was the first album I heard the first time and was like "...What?" Midnights was the same, but grew on me less, though there are some songs I like. Poets was when I couldn't give her the benefit of the doubt anymore, and Showgirl just sealed it. All in all I'd say the T.S. run was Debut - Folklore. 8 great albums in a row from 17 to 31 years old. That's not bad at all. Maybe if she stops all this Era's touring and associated nonsense and just really settled down, takes a uear off to decompress, then comes back and does something great for 13 she can meet and possibly even surpass her previous heights, but she's stretched too thin and phoning it in at the moment. She's thinking too much like an executive of a company and not a singer/songwriter girl with a guitar.
>>127983900I wish. That's all I've ever wanted
>>127987056It will happen bro. If I was mathematician I would be able to prove it using numbers
>>127982565TTPTSD better than The Life and Death of a Shadowbanned Girl.
Let’s admit it They succeeded at killing Taylor Swift’s career
>>1279871683/4 of them will get dropped by their label for being a flop
>>127981323Same.
>>127987305MedsTroye Sivan will be probably representing Australia at Eurovision 2026
>>127987015Stitching on a penis doesn't change anything.
>>127981317>>127981457>>127981422>>127984125>>127981408>>127983746She's going to turn into a lolcow after this isn't she?
>>127987040>takes a uear off to decompress,she should honestly take 3-5 years. give people a chance to miss her before having a solid comeback. not even a fan i just think this is what she should do.
>>127987163No, I listened to it once while getting my dick sucked and it was so bad I couldn't even cum. All 30 songs sounded exactly the same and just blended together into one bad song.
>>127987015You have nothing for this >>127987831
>>127987168>gay art hoes vs blonde Stacy It’s 2025, Stacy wins
>>127981317>5.9Pretty much equivalent to a 0, that's fucking brutal.
>>127987168They should all make a band together and name it the Discount Farrah Abrahams
actually romantic is so fucking boring> basic guitar strum pattern> boring lyrics> no progression in the track or evolution of ideas ever.This is so fucking boring. Where are the autism easyfun / ag cook tracks with 800 things going on. How do people not get bored listening to this shit holy shit. This is the music version of refusing to put seasoning on anything.>>1279820393/10>>127982192white women will buy anything taylor puts out.
>>127989421Did you know Farrah Abraham had a brief music career.https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pNkQlCYblTQ
>>127981424p4k is giving more indie rock BNM lately so I believe this. Feels like 2011 all over again
>>127981317>linking to pitchforkFuck off and kill yourself
>>127981317She got off really easy, but they make it look harsh. 5.9 might as well be 0 for modern P4K. 0-6 is bad, 6-7 is mid. 7-BNM is good. BNM-10 is worth listening to.
>>127984181Poppy
>>127981317They lick her pussy more than Travis and gave her a 5.9?
>>127987168Charli is the only good one hereLorde was making the pop equivalent of spiritual miracle lyrical rap when she first came out
>>127990594Troye is prettier than both of them, he wins
