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the secret point of rock and roll was to siphon up the white male angst and dilute it into art and music. when they killed off rock music you saw the rise of the alt right. Rock was an important part of society. Now musics been whittled down to pop and pop rap, only white women, gays, and black men are allowed to be musicians who are "important"My theory is the rise of poptmism led to the alienation of white male youth which led them to find a new home in politics which led to trump winningin the end liberals have no one to blame but themselvesalso ian curtis was right wing and voted thatcher, not sure what summers politics are but he went along with the nazi chic aesththic of joy division and even named his new band "new order" kek another obscure right wing refrence
>>127989545him and ian just liked fascist aesthetics and liked to be edgy. ian voted tory in protest of labour. realistically they’re both socdemstldr they are just like me
>>127989476imagine being working class
>>127989476>guy whose bandname is of nazi origin is a chudgo figure
>>127989476Racist neo-nazi cracKKKer ban all his music from Spotify
>>127989596nope ian was a tory, he even made his gf vote toryA staunch supporter of the Conservative Party.He voted Tory repeatedly as "he always would do". Curtis insisted that his wife should do the same in order not to "cancel his vote". In 1978, he ended a friendship with a childhood pal called Tony Nuttall over politics. Tony Nuttall was on the left while Ian Curtis was a political right-winger.Via Touching From a Distance: "Apart from this, Tony and Ian had grown a long way apart, particularly in their politics. They were left and right wing respectively. Tony wasn't a passionate campaigner, but found that shared politics gave him an almost unconscious way of warming to people. His friendship with Ian had disappeared and he wondered if Ian also felt the gulf. For this reason, the conversation that day remained shallow as they sought some common ground. When Ian showed Tony Nuttall the "An Ideal for Living" sleeve, he was dismayed by the imagery and, listening to the music, found it wasn't really to his taste either. Their friendship never re-established itself."In 1979, Curtis tricked the local Liberal candidate into driving him to the polling station so he could for vote for the Conservatives.Ian's closest confidante, his wife Deborah, recounts the bizarre episode:“Ian told the Liberal candidate in a local council election that we would both be voting for him. On the day of election the poor man appeared at the door with his car to take us to the polling station. Ian accepted the lift and voted Conservative as he always would do. He argued that as his wife I had to vote the same way, otherwise I would cancel his vote!”According to NME, “Curtis was a man of deep, deep contradictions; a sensitive artist with a taste for bohemian writers like Burghs and Ballard, he was also a loyal Tory voter, who vehemently opposed immigration and flirted with fascistic imagery.”
>>127989618SARR YOU DO NOT UNDERSTAND I AM OF CALLING YOU THE CHUD
>>127989545now that DEIslop is dead, long live rock and roll
>>127989641if only he knew that tories were lying about being anti-immigration
>>127989476This kind of victim politics for white people is pathetic. No, I don't want white people to be just another identity group clamoring for some gibs. We need to reclaim what is ours.
>>127989681And how can you do that without confronting the reality of the despondent white working class
>>127989476>/mu/>workingNope
>>127989722Just tell people what you're going to do. If they're despondent they'll be attracted to it.
>>127989641HEIL CURTISHEIL DONALDSON
>>127989641>miserable young man is a chudmany such cases
>>127991313One thing I know about leftists is they are DEFINITELY all not on SSRIs
>>127989476based as fuck
>>127989545good post
>>127991313Ian was a faggot and so are you
>>127989476rock is above any race/skin color. music, and rock in particular, is able to reach different social backgrounds
Its not just white dudes that don't have musical representation. Music in general is stagnant and just repeating what has already been done before
>>127989476>designs the cover of An Ideal For Living based upon a trace from a Hitler Youth propganda poster>calls himself Bernard Albrect to sound more German>"YOU ALL FORGOT RUDOLF HESS!"and people say Ian was the chud one
Im fairly left wing but fascist aesthetics are just cool. Same with Soviet aesthetics
>>127989641Ian was from Cheshire and went to private school, Bernard and Hooky were little oiks from Salford. They had different backgrounds.
>>127992707Faggot
>>127992723Thanks for the tip, /r/music.
>>127995169He went to private school on scholarship. He was firmly middle class
>>127989476The white working class don’t give a shit about rock music anymore, in the UK they want to be rappers or DJs
>>127989641>dismayed by the imagerylol, left wing pansy.
>>127995323In the US they’re either turbo wiggers or rednecks. Apart from me of course
>>127989545This theory just makes angsty young white males sound like irredeemable assholes.
>>127995346That’s why Morgan Wallen is so popular in the US, he’s both a wigger and a redneck
>>127995378just a redneck tbf. there’s some overlap
>>127995385No he’s a wigger, he’s admitted he doesn’t even listen to country musichttps://youtu.be/UR3lYl9xcLk
>>127995397Well this is the biggest piece of shit ive ever heard
>>127989476lefties will take this as nazi talk