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Should we expand the Big 4 of Thrash to include Avenged Sevenfold? If we consider the band with an honest, objective lens, they undeniably took the crown of greatest 2000s thrash band with City of Evil, and it's not even close. If we're being real, they honestly mog Metallica, musically, though I'll admit Metallica at their peak was pretty good.
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>>128043127
its shit bait but im replying anyway
nothing a7x ever put out was thrash
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>>128043127
if they didn't dress like emo faggots then I'd agree.
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>>128043127
bfmv is way thrashier than a7x
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Jokes aside, there's no reason for the supposed 4th, (forgot which of the many lesser thrash bands it is, again) to be put in that grouping.
It's the big 3.
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>>128043127
Trivium are more thrash than A7X
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>>128043127
City of Evil could've been an incredible sound lasting multiple albums. If this wasn't the cursed timeline.
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>>128043127
Chadrock
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>>128043405
Based. A7x is for alpha/sigma males. Chadrock should be an actual genre
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>>128043127
Yes, we should make it the big 6 and include Nickelback also
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>>128043127
Honestly A7x is criminally underrated and I'm tired of pretending they're not. There is no better dual guitars in metal, even now. The fact that they've stood the test of time is kind of hard to believe.
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>>128043161
they definitely have enough thrash elements in their music to be considered thrash
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They're unironically better than Anthrax
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You sound like the MCRspammer. Tongue my anus.
Also why did every 2000s mall rock band look like this?
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>>128044570
even though I like a7x, there's many metal bands with way better dual guitars brahbrah
check 2:23
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQ0zTK-mx7o
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I love their instrumentals
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>>128043127
Is this more zoomer revisionism? "Actually this nu-metal/buttrock/buttmetal from when I was in diapers holds up!"

>>128045588
The original drummer and lead guitarist were/are talented players. Unfortunately, they decided to waste their talents playing buttmetal because they wanted to be rock stars and fuck groupies. City of Evil is a fun album but I rarely put it on unless I am feeling nostalgic. I respect them for trying some weird things on their last album, but the vocals are truly bizarre sometimes.
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>>128045546
>Also why did every 2000s mall rock band look like this?

Because they liked Guns n Roses and other hair metal shite. Also because it helped them get their emo fangirls into bed
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>>128046012
>but the vocals are truly bizarre sometimes
Just to make it clear, I wasn't saying I don't like the vocals' timbre. I was just saying I don't like every lyric from them. So I just spoke abouy instrumentals, practically all of which I like. And in general I consider them all talented. Do you have exceptions on that?
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>>128043272
It’s Anthrax and yes you’re correct it should a big 3
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>>128046078
or a big 5 with either testament or exodus
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>>128046086
hmm, no. There’s a better argument for a big 1
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>>128046061
The bassist is probably one of the most useless band members in mainstream rock. Don't know much about the rhythym guitarist other than the early metalcore albums were mostly him and the vocalist.

I knew quite a bit about the band back in the day because I was a fanboy in my early teens. It always seemed to be the Rev and Synyster Gates doing most of the songwriting for their best material with the others just pitching in here and there. The bass was inaudible most of the time. No idea how they operate now
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>>128046078
>>128046086
The "Big 4" was just label marketing nonsense. And Anthrax was only in there because of Scott Ian Rosenfeld's industry connections
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>>128043127
Do kids still listen to them? I know there are still emo kids from a friend who was a high school teacher and I know MCR remains popular but what bands are those kids listening to now? Can any zoomers enlighten me?
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>>128043127
Remove the shit band Slayer and put in Avenged Sevenfold.
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>>128046906
Shalom
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>>128046945
Slayer made a song about how awful the (((Nazi experiments))) were (hint, they never happened).
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>>128047000
I see, and what does that have to do with the riffs exactly?
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>>128043127
A7x is not thrash... at best they are hard rock, worst metalcore
saying this as a pretty big fan.
Even Trivium is more "thrash" than a7x.
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>>128047000
and Sabaton made a song called "The Final Solution" to remember the holocaust.
most bands are groups of burn out retards trying to find any semblance of meaning in life, even the big 3 thrash bands.
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>>128043929
Nickelback wrote some of the finest thrash metal songs of the last 25 years, they're much better than slayer, for example.
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1. The Big 4 is a marketing gimmick.
>comprised of THRASH METAL BANDS
>that SOLD THE MOST RECORDS
>in the MID-EIGHTIES

2. No, Kreator can’t be in the Big 4 because they’re German and write songs about gay pride.

3. Most thrash metal bands have not written albums as great as Among the Living.

4. Based on record numbers at the time, if there was an extra band thrown in to make a Big 5, the honors would go to Overkill strangely enough; not Testament or muh Exodus.

5. Slayer sucks and have the most embarrassing late-90’s / early 00’s material of any of the other bands.
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i don’t get why there’s a big 4 when anthrax is fucking nothing, metallica obviously included, slayer, megadeth, but why is anthrax considered on their level
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>>128047099
What fucking riffs? Kerry King noodling as fast as he can all over the fucking guitar while Hanneman plays the most standard and forgettable downtuned riff?
>>128049378
The post above yours tells you why you dumb fuck
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>>128049883
You seem upset.
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>>128043929
Based

>>128049134
Based beyond belief.
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>>128043127

A7x no way. Municipal Waste yes.
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>>128046114

Oy stop noticing the industry connections goy
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>>128043127
I'm just glad M Shadows can fucking SING, he doesn't go to either extreme. His voice is extremely gritty but doesn't fall into that boring compressed 80s thrash voice that makes everyone sound the same, it's gritty and clean and still sounds like him, sounds iconic. And he doesn't abuse screaming, they actually know how to write good fucking melodies and lyrics that are not just depressing negative or edgy shit
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>>128049883
you probably arent in a place to be calling other people dumb fucks
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>all the Big 4 bands have 4 band members
Woah.
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>>128051989
Anthrax always had 5 ya dingus
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>>128045420
>>128046078
>>128046114
>>128049378
>>128052020
Scott Ian's manager is the most talented member of Anthrax.
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>>128043241
This.
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>>128052075
Scott Ian doesn’t even write the band’s music but everyone still thinks it’s "his" band
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>>128052075
>>128052755
Based. I like how a bait thread about A7X just turns into bashing lame Anthrax and Scott Ian.
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Metallica kinda sucks
Anthrax hysterically sucks
Megadeth are legit fucking terrible
Slayer might be the best metal band in the history of music

What did thrash metal mean by this?
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>>128053339
based
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>>128043127
Not Ready to Die is pretty much a Megadeth song. They even play it live with an AI zombie filter on their stage cam, pretty sick. What does Dave Mustaine do on stage, he talks about how he pissed on the bathroom floor in the white house.
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>>128053267
Literally have never encountered an Anthrax fan irl, and only a handful online
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>>128057590
I knew one kid at school back in the 90s who had an Anthrax album on cassette. Based on that I consider them the same level as 2 Live Crew
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Did some genetic switch out happen to white people before the 80s-90s that lead to producing dork looking motherfuckers in these rock bands now to be full of dudes who looked like dorks like this?

They look like fucking frat boys larping,

70s and 80s rockstars looked the part, these dudes look like they run away from fights and post cute memes despite their image type shit. I believed Ozzy, I don't believe these homos wearing your little sister's haircut.
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>>128057803
80s metal guys were just forming bands to have fun and get girls. They didn't give a fuck how marketers sold their nonsense so long as it kept them on the road and they found out the underageb& dollar was a very effective one to market to.
By the 2000s, pandering to kids deliberately was the well established formula and bands formed with doing that in mind. It's why 2000s rock sucks. It's got 12-15 year olds in mind from the start



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