Rap is a psyop to make the oligarchs rich while making average people glorify poverty street culture
I just don't like it because it sounds like shit
>>128043943>>glorify poverty street culture>If you a broke depressed ass nigga go and jump off a bridge
>>128043991emo is a different psyop targeted at middle class white people to hook them on SSRIs
>>128043943rap is a government institution indeed, but a psyop? Maybe, we can't tell for sure though, it's like trying to find aliens into area 51, they may be there but if you find it out the govs will mk ultra you.
>>128044003The emo have talent as a collective at least, and emo is music, unlike rap.
>>128044021Rap makes everyone in America okay with being poor but having nice clothes AKA hood rich
>>128044021Music is whatever the system says it is just like modern art
not music
>>128043943Take your meds, schizo
>>128043943>CHANGE MY PITCH UP>SMACK MY BITCH UPhttps://youtu.be/5UcP7qoUqJA
>>128044155i’m not taking mkultra pills sry
carti fuckin changed everything, every other underground rapper sounds like him now
>>128044003psyop this psyop that, niggas are just mad, sad, wanna party and wanna fuck. Grow up. Like you guys think every person is just a perfect godly being and then the government supplants things like desire into them fuck u
>>128044213drool cup updooting bro
>>128044248we get it you hate black people
Playboi Carti was a nobody on the mostly unknown label Awful Records out of Atlanta but in 2015 this weird fashion guy Ian Connor decided to make Playboi Carti famous by posting Cartis songs on his Twitter and dressing him in some outfits and stuff, I imagine Ian introduced Carti to Kanye, stuff like that, and it literally worked Carti became very famous that's how it happened
>>128043943It’s capitalism, they don’t care how shit and destructive something is along as it makes money
>>128044343they control the banks, they have infinite money, thinking its about money is an 80iq take. its a demonic contract, they have to cause as much suffering as possible.
>>128044213even doe rage existed way before WLR and there's barely any rappers trying to rap like carti
>>128044363No the people running record labels don’t own the banks, they don’t have infinite money, they push what sells and despise of what doesn’t, it’s as simple as that, capitalist pop culture is about appealing to the lowest common denominator, the masses and this what they like, simplistic animalistic degeneracy
>>128044468sorry i’m not from planet retard, miss me with your naive ass worldview
>>128044468>satanists acting in the image of the beast turn the masses into beasts
Academic elites worship blacks and black culture.Starting in the 1940s the CIA launched the Congress for Cultural Freedom, a think-tank designed to channel funds into the anti-Soviet left. They funded intellectuals, musicians and artists who appeared "leftist" but were actually anti-Marxist and anti-proletarian. This included propping up hideous and meaningless modern "art" as a means of alienating the working-class from the arts and ensuring art could only be appreciated by pompous cultured elites. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tD49vdreggwThere is zero doubt in my mind the CIA has been behind the rise of hip hop for this exact same reason. Hip hop is primarily an anti-working class genre of "music," made by the black lumpenproletariat AKA the criminal underclass. Marx pointed out how the lumpen are an adversary of the genuine working-class, used by the elite classes to offset class struggle. The lumpen in no way threaten the power of cultured elites, hence why they use the lumpen as a substitute revolutionary subject. The Ivory Tower loves and pushes hip hop for this exact reason.
>>128043943The rise of gangsta rap was part of a psyop but rap itself no
>>128044659CIA and mossad are the same organization
>>128044659based maupinchad
I don't get it so rap exists to encourage poor people to stay poor?
>>128043943>to make the oligarchs richLiterally how? What oligarchs have gained their wealth through rap lmao>glorify poverty street cultureBut rappers don't glorify poverty, they gloat about being rich and flaunt jewelry and that
>>128044659>actually believing thisyou are one huge faggot
Not music.
>>128044968found the glowie
>>128044968It's so funny how old boring faggots now have these drawn out elaborate schizo theories for why they don't like new things and why culture isn't as good as when they were kids now.
>>128044963you’re naive
>>128045025Ok I'm glad you think that, you can enlighten us. Go ahead
>>128045010Congratulations! Here is your prize!
>>128045033not going to spoonfeed
>>128045111This website is all bots now, or eighteen year olds. The quality of these comments is chatgpt glowie edition, zero thought. I wish the two minute wait on captcha wasn't a thing, facilitates bots > human engagement.
>>128045014america has no culture. everything is an evil bullshit psyop to destroy the country further and you’re a fucking retard for championing it. maybe people with life experience know something your dumb ass doesnt.
>>128043943Probably just recruitment/money laundering for gang activity I refuse to believe all the random ass rappers you see are generating money with their music. And with the Diddy stuff coming out, the mainstream guys probably did gay/pedo stuff to get boosted
>>128046220It isn't just the bots or zoomers, it's also third worlders getting internet access
>>128046230boomers saying "old good new bad" for another generation isn't new or insightful
>>128043943Correct>>128043963Also correct
>>128043943Go to bed Immortal Technique.
>>128046456they were right tho lmao
>>128046456>truth only matters when it gives me dopamine
>>128045051Is this what gave eazy e his aids?
>>128044659yep
>>128044659Explain how it is "anti-working class"
>>128046896>my shitty opinion is le TRUTH!cringe
>>128044055Am I hood rich if I’m poor but have nice furniture and clothing and rare books and records ?
>>128044055Yes, if not for rap there would already have been a Marxist revolution.
>>128043943is it true the CIA created gangster rap as a way to psyop and control black people?
>>128047928You dishonestly posted this to generate discussion pushing your agenda but probably. You can go on youtube and see interviews with the artists who were there talking about it
>>128047971>dishonestI am genuinely curious and it fits the topic of the thread? I've seen multiple people say this and I believe it knowing they put out crack in the 80s into black neighborhoods. The idea that gang rap is dumbing everyone down, I can understand that. Like Punk music it gives a false sense of counter culture that is manufactured.
>>128048075You can literally search "the truth about gangsta rap" on yourtube and see Ice Cube and Krayzie Bone, among others, talking about it
>>128048075gangster rap was primarily used to build the prison industrial complex in america
>>128047253autistic retard android>>128047928yes
>>128047231>destroys culture for those on the front line who have to deal with it
>>128044955>selling drugs and gang violence is cool and glamorous>don’t you want to be cool and glamorous?
>>128048271In the 21st century what is stopping anyone from finding better art. Or are you saying it causes crime?
>>128048284This only works on very low IQ people, who probably weren't going to achieve much to begin with
>>128048295>you exist in a vacuum and the actions of others has no impact on your life
>>128043943What isn't?
>>128048335I live in an area that is overwhelmingly white so yeah, the actions of inner city rap listeners has no impact on my life. And no, I am not particularly rich
>>128048305thanks for proving my point that the psychological operation is working as intended
>>128048359Not an argument.
>>128048368you literally just admitted that it works galaxybrain kek
>>128048370So your point is that black people are stupid? Just wanted to make sure
>>128048379they’re not stupid they just don’t realize they’re being targeted with psyops like most people don’t and like the other anon said the powers that be are clever and make their psyops appear as grassroots counterculture
why are trap rappers just bragging about kills now? that shit has gotten too insane
>>128048421>they’re not stupid but are just THAT easily manipulated into committing crime by listening to music.Just say nagger already
>>128048441Because they are teenagers
rap is just fucking dogshit. grow up.
>>128043943Rappers are such degenerates. So glad the kill each other and OD on drugs constantly. Makes our country a little less filthy one at a time
There's a difference between glorifying something and acknowledging it
>>128043943its not a psyop its just grassroots retardation from the most retarded of the American population. Why are you surprised or giving it more complexity than what it really is.Its jsut a balding ape chimping out on a microphone and he calls that "high culture".
>>128048443NTA, but you're the obsesses one here. The anon you were responding to not even mentioned blacks. Plus basically yes most people are foolish and manipulated by psy ops to behave like that that was mentioned. And you moved the goalposts in >>128048305. Like "oh yeah, I lost the discussion that rap does encourage poverty, BUT: let's now discuss the point of who falls for the psy op, where I say only some fools do and I win!". Nah. Stop pretending psy ops are fiction.
>>128049360obsessed*
>>128043943I like Onyx
>>128049360Schizophrenic post
>>128044659
>>128049784I always hated jazz but never found a musical explanation. I just hate the feeling of it.
>>128044387>barely any rappers trying to rap like cartiNot that anon but there's tons like Osamason and Che's latest album.>>128044659There's Hip Hop that does push anti-establishment shit. Immortal Technique wouldn't fit this.
>>128049360Some of it CAN be a Psyop but far from all of it is.
>>128049784>muh proletarian music must be SYMMETRICALFFS
>>128044659>Caleb Maupin>knows what he's talking about>>128044721Mossad does all the things the CIA doesn't want to do. Mossad is basically an organization made up entirely of court Jews.
>>128050260>>Caleb MaupinThat faggot got caught cheating on his old fat latina wife with an ugly tranny loland he had a spanking fetish he was a fucking wierdo
>>128050268And the trans person in question wasn't even a transwoman but a TRANS MAN, aka a born-female who was on testosterone and living as a man. Maupin got them to spank him in a sexual manner while roleplaying as his dad, I shit you not.
Dame Dash confirms hip hop was a CIA operation:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0TbmoIGcVF0
>>128050132https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v9guw6Mcwbk
>>128043943Probably not but internet conservatism is pretty clearly exposed as a psyop to make the oligarchs rich while making average people poorer by now. This is pretty clearly evidenced by Elon's pivot into hard right internet politics along with his entire corporatist cohort, coinciding with his massive expansion of wealth and the whole stagflation and rise in wealth inequality ever since Trump's first election. With every passing day it grows more and more clear that /pol/ was never organic, and the internet right wing stuff was never organic, it was always bankrolled, it was always a scam and psyop, none of it was ever legitimate
>>128050376>With every passing day it grows more and more clear that /pol/ was never organic,What do you mean?
>>128050376Then are all the oldhead rappers, who were there, publicly saying it was pushed by the same groups who own private prisons just being paid to lie?
>>128050390It's clear now that /pol/ was never organic, it was always a psyop, probably even since back in the /new/ days. It was never organic, it was always bankrolled by moneyed interests
>>128050403I don't think it was from the start, a lot of the far-right stuff on 4chan began as just trolling, then the retards latched onto it. Those oligarch interest groups you mentioned probably just noticed and subverted it for their own gain.
>>128050392That conspiracy theory is most likely false. The original "exposé" that was being passed around the internet 12 years ago is so full of holes it's very hard to believe.
>>128050403How do you know all this? What gives it away?Also, I'm old enough to remember when half the threads on /pol/ were debates about which southern and eastern European ethnic groups count as "white".
>>128050439How is it a conspiracy theory when people who were there, and not just literally whos with sour grapes, said they were in conversations with executives who pushed to keep their lyrical themes about street crime? Amazing you think blacks are immune to this, and could never be manipulated but only white internet nerds are the problem. Seems odd.
>>128050422I used to think that but now I think moreso that it was always inorganic from the beginning.
>>128050466I think it's a matter of low intelligence and bad education, if you have any of those you know entertainment is one of the most important areas of power reproductionevery empire has a colosseum and every empire past 1789 knows they have to keep tight control over culture
>>128050515What makes you think it was inorganic exactly?
>>128050515it wasn't inorganic at that time, they were just stormfront migrants
>>128050403/pol/ exists because stormfront basically got shut down and all the actual nazis became refugees on 4chan and being actual nazis they’re annoying af so moot in his wisdom made them a containment board to keep them off /news/ and theoretically off every other board so the site itself doesn’t become nazichan
>>128050422Yeah there’s a parallel history with the punk movement pretending to be racist arseholes to filter out and upset the Mormons (nazis) and accidentally attracting the real nazis who are obviously too retarded to comprehend irony
>>128050672I don't really buy that narrative anymore though, I think it was always inorganic, top-down subversion from the start
>>128050686>Yeah there’s a parallel history with the punk movement pretending to be racist arseholes to filter out and upset the Mormons (nazis)taht's not why punks were using nazi symbols, they used them to trigger their parents who fought nazis
>>128050698Again, what makes you think it was inorganic? What details gave it away in your view?
>>128050699I’m posting from my iPhone and the autocorrect is awful. I think we agree and it’s the same idea on this image board that a certain level of ironic edgy keeps the mormons away
>>128043943Playboi Carti's music is not rap. That's what we call cringe. His beats are cool but that's it.
>>128043943too much distortion, too many knock off cartis screaming yuhh aye over some cringey tread beat
>>128043943It's crazy how many millions of kids have become accustomed to liking sad, depressed, drug addicted artists wailing, crying and screaming their lyrics over some overly distorted yet overly simple trap beat. I resonate more with poetry, lyrics, rhymes. Not sobbing and screaming over a beat via autotune.
>>128043943*does the robot* hey I'm still young and fresh and definitely not indian!
>>128050884Stuff going on right now along with suspicions that I've always kind of had but never really fully realized until now
>>128044243morning pajeet bro curry for breakfast again? mummyji says you're a real nigga street soldier!
>>128044155Which ones sweatie, HRT or SSRIs?
>>128044659shut up chud
>>128048421>they’re not stupidlol
>>128050376Even though internet leftism was funded by usaid
>>128051119conspiracy schizo bigot fuck u
>>128050988It’s feasible that neo nazis were either created as or co-opted to be a kind of controlled opposition but there’s almost zero chance that 4chan was created or envisioned to be some kind of stormnigger homepage, it would require too many unnecessary actions and too much complexity
>>128050988What kind of stuff?
>>128044659>black>"criminal underclass"
>>128051321nta buthttps://youtu.be/TPHafKOd9A4
>>128043943Black people are so fragile and pathetic
>>128049784sounds like another ignorant retard rockist who thinks all jazz sounds like bebop or something