>so uh...i like knew kurt cobain...
He seems to be one of the only guys honest about Kurt. If anything, interviewers only give a shit about him in relation to being friends with Kurt.
>>128061878i dont think he even liked kurt that much desu, he basically lost respect to him when he couldnt get down to recording music due to being a huge junkie when he was in the studio with them
Melvins are based, regardless. OP is a latent homo
yeah because every other fucking question he gets asked is about kurt cobain and not him or his band.
Fuck Kurt, tell me more Mike Patton stories, Mr King Buzzo, sir.
Buzzo seems like a cool guy to drink a 40 with and listen to some good rock music. Kurt would've probably started crying and trauma dumping on you after a few sips.
>>128061878>>128061907King Buzzo is and always was a chud and that created a rift in him and Kurt's friendship way before the fame and success of Nirvana
>>128064614Kurt alienated EVERYONE. That's one on the reasons why Nirvana went through so many drummers. He was a notorious asshole, and he shit on other grunge bands because as far as he was concerned only he could understand and produce grunge. "In Utero" sucking is one of the things that helped kill grunge quickly. Kurt should be grateful that decades later people choose to romanticize the good and forget about the bad.
>>128064614I'm pretty sure Krist Novoselic is MAGA nowadays
>>128064909I think Kurt had contempt for grunge. He was a snob that wanted to be seen as underground and hipster and punk/noise rock and not something so mainstream. He saw other grunge bands as just lame radio ready rock that he didnt care for. He felt insecure as his band falling into that trap which lead to his downfall ultimately
>>128061843STONER WITCH > NEVERMINDBuzzo is the man. He talks mad shit about the Nirvana guys and doesn't mince words when it comes to Cobain's "stomach" issues (constipation from opiates). Stylistically, he's a better guitarist and a MUCH better vocalist. The same stream-of-consciousness lyrics are ripped from the Melvins. Plenty of classic albums, and I'd even go so far as to say that Crover > Grohl. Plus, Melvins are still relevant and do weird shit, like with Jello and The Dead Science. Buzzochads stay winning; Cobaincels can go get murdered by their CIA-appointed g/f when they wander off the reservation.
>>128065050I don't think he was murdered. I think he was so high on himself that he truly believed that he was too good for this world that's incapable of understanding how deep his feelings about stuff are. So he checked out while his loving and faithful wife was out fucking Marilyn Manson, Billy Corgan, and God knows who else in order to get ghost-writers to help her with her own album.
>>128065001also critics gargled his nuts so that must have inflated his ego even more
>>128065050>The same stream-of-consciousness lyrics are ripped from the Melvinspretty sure Neil Young did that 20+ years earlier
>>128065001He hated trends. Being "trendy and cool" is pop culture, not alternative culture. MTV turned underground music culture into a mainstream fashion statement.
>>128065001other than Soundgarden, he thought they were ok
>>128065080Nah, it just seems to make sense. The whole grunge thing seemed way too flash in the pan, and picking some Melvins/Pixies heroin-addled cover band means that they'd never complain about their sudden rise from obscurity. The first time I heard Nirvana was on the "Wayne's World" soundtrack, which is also sus (it's an upbeat comedy, not a downer). Grohl also is sus, as his origins come from D.C. (same deal with Rollins, who just happened to rehearse near the white house). As for Courtney, look into her past. She has some shady dealings and grew up in a strange hippie house, living as a runaway and sheeeit. Gives me the same vibes as MZB and Walter Breen (another rabbit hole for all the GATE/scifi/cosplay/renfaire kids out there). Definitely a handler--and the Corgan connection raises eyebrows (his dad was a criminal and most likely deeply connected). I think a lot of people knew what Cobain was saddled with, but to name it would invalidate their entire fortunes to which they had become accustomed. I mean, he was scoring dope to cope with this, and if he wasn't blasted by a hotshot (like the time he was hospitalized in a foreign country), then they had to frame his death in a plausible way. I think a lot of record company ((execs)) saw him as a liability, Courtney wanted that bag (and probably resented being saddled with a baby that he was too fucked up to deal with responsibly), and his talents were starting to wane (like "In Utero", which might be a reference to something die in the womb before it was done). Even if it was a suicide, he was certainly driven towards it. It's the same for many pop stars who are lifted out of obscurity. Comparatively, looking at someone like Katy Perry or Justin Bieber shows a pop star that hasn't been deactivated.
>>128065116So did Bob Dylan, Louis Carroll, and all the post-modern writers. It's just that this lack of meaning and heaviness are the hallmarks of Melvins tracks. "Negative Creep" may as well be off of Hooch.
>>128065150>Grohl also is sus, as his origins come from D.C. (same deal with Rollins, who just happened to rehearse near the white house).There were was a huge hardcore scene there at the time of Rollins. Grohl was just a kid sneaking into shows.
>>128065150The only shit I'll throw at Grohl is he wanted Nirvana to be bigger while Kurt wanted it to be smaller. Grohl wanted the big arena tours while Kurt with happy with the clubs. And I have no doubt that he put a lot of pressure on Kurt to try to get him to "sell out" and accept being popular to cash in on it with big-venue tours.
>>128065170>RollinsAs far as he's concerned, he's the world's one and only true punk, and everyone who's not Henry Rollins is a fake poser. The music business has massive egos everywhere, but few are as massive as his is.
>>128061843In the biblical sense
>>128065170There's just a lot of chance encounters and recruitment between DC hardcore and the grunge scene. While I won't argue that pop music is the domain of middle class kids pretending to be poor, the placement and later elevation of key actors (Rollins on early MTV, for example) raises my antennae. Jay Dyer had a breakdown of this that's pretty good, going from The Fugs to present day. When you see it, you see it. I met a lady when I was hitchhiking in Indio, CA that said she was a hairdresser, but we smoked a joint and she told me that she hooked up "prostitutes" ("bitches" was her word) with rap figures in Palm Springs rehab facilities. She even put on a porno on her phone, which was a lady dom forcing a woman to have sex with some black dude. I think she was selected to provide this convenience, and keeping these people addled on coke, in the case of her rapper "client" Jeremih.>>128065222I will say that Rollins did get back to me for an interview request when he played NYC's Town Hall. I just think that when these people have an assignment (often unwittingly), this serves as money-laundering for interests and contractual obligations. Hence why he was on Rogan and his cadre of podcasts (Joey Diaz). He just seems autistic, damaged by Ritalin, and probably bisexual--which is what's probably used as leverage when he was on the roids/tren (which he never mentions instead of black coffee). I'd even go so far as to say that his friend was killed as a message. Tim Heidecker had a similar message and sought refuge in a gay bar when he got chased. These strange occurrences are always prompted by career lulls or a diversion from their more outspoken behavior. Cobain was no different. Same deal with the others who were talking about child sex rings and shit, like Chris Cornell. I'd imagine the Staley was just a typical junkie with talent, and the same for the rest of those "stars".
>>128061843He is literally one of the few honest people when it comes to Kurt.Also Melvins is more important to Rock music than Nirvana.
>>128064909In Utero is a lot better than Nevermind
>>128061843This guy is the absolute king of JUST and saltiness. No wonder he's still extremely sour having watched all the good looking kids around him ride his coattails and become world famous and super rich and he was left in the dust, listened to only by pasty music geeks.
>>128066019>flavored shit is a lot better than shit
>>128066019There’s a good EP inside In Utero and the Albini mix (especially the drums) is mostly superior.
>>128065326>Jay DyerAaaaand opinion dismissed
>>128066520Believe what you want to believe https://youtu.be/xyB4M5u6Zko?si=Fl7T5fbl2kMquP0O
>>128064909>because as far as he was concerned only he could understand and produce grunge.He literally hated the term "grunge" and referred to Nirvana as a punk band until the very end.
>>128065137so he disliked the best and most creative grunge band?
ITT: namefag writing fan fiction
What brings you back to /mu/, buzzsperg? It's been years since I've seen you. Did you get your life together for a bit and then go through a traumatic failure, which has brought you back here to make your unfunny ritual thread again?
HE KNEW KURT
>>128064614>applying current political meme jargon to apolitical musician's actions over 30 years ago He's stated musicians aren't qualified or credible to speak on politics. That's an argument your ilk loves to use. Their song lyrics are rarely even make sense. You're projecting personal victimhood onto plateaued musicians that saw several orders of magnitude less success than their own groupies and genres they inspired.
if I can only listen to one melvins song, which one is it?
>>128070287even flow
>>128065001He basically was one of those antifa mugshot freaks who just happened to be attractive and talented. As far as PNW druggie loser culture goes, putting a gun in your mouth at age 27 when you have literally everything going for you, leaving behind a child without a father is probably the only thing remotely approaching a happy ending for one of these people.
>>128061843>invent sludge metal>people only care about your old friendship with a crossdressing suicidal junkieFuck this gay earth
>>128070419Sludge metal is one of the most boring genres of all time and Melvins aren't even a top 10 band in their own genre.
>>128069841How does a teenage runaway get starring movie roles, date the largest bands for “songwriting”, and have so much leverage without much talent?It helps to have connections - he’ll, her mom is a famous daughter of novelists and her dad’s a “roadie” for the Dead… so much so that Phil Lesh is her godfather…Hmmmmm…
>>128070287Roadbull https://youtu.be/Pdmq9pSmArU
>>128064101>tell me more Mike Patton storiesOh yeah that story about how he drunk his own piss from a shoe and how he always used crack open his head. Hold spork!
>>128071398very good. i'll listen to the album
>>128068508Poser punk
>>128070287Sweet willy rollbar
>>128071946Stoner Witch is a perfect album. Hooch is less so, but still good. Their other stuff is hit or miss, but I loved the Fantomas Melvin’s Big Band stuff. They’ve got a shit ton of decent tunes in their newer eras.https://youtu.be/MMS9lpFzIZUhttps://youtu.be/7hx9In2XWWYhttps://youtu.be/mgisimtF3O0
>>128070287Night Goat
>>128064909>so they don't know
>>128065050Pinched nerve, dear anon.Or do we need to start talking about how much Buzzo whines.
Kurt liked to put on fishnets and let Buzzo take his sweet little boypussy this is an open secret
>>128072560Definitely not true.Still a faggot?
>>128068508Punk/blues hybrid
I left the industry because these faggots were everywhere.
>>128065080That is the most retarded take I've ever heard.
>your legacy will always be tied to a guy you bullied as a kid that surpassed you immensely in influence and successlmao his obituary will mention kurt’s name
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=caPiPCzVHoE>I knew Dave Grohl BC, before credit and before Cobain
>>128068508They were a pop rock band. Certainly not "punk", especially after Bleach.
>>128061907would've been a great album if he got his shit together.
>>128070396Assisted suicide with a long gun by your spun out soon to be bank rolled ex and her paid meth heads. Seattle PD would never let anything slip through their grasp.
>>128072616Who OP? Definitely.
>>128072616Same. Couldn’t stand the druggies and weirdos.
>>128070287a history of bad menhttps://youtu.be/7hx9In2XWWY?si=oGogmoHxn-jmi_48
>>128061843i grew up in monty/addy and he did lol my dad knew the melvin from ralphs in monty the guy us named after. basically the melvins band guys are just og 4chan bullies trying to have some fun. pretty cool.
>>128072193>>128073715Beat you to it. Solid tune
>>128073058it's customary for buzzo to spend at least 15 minutes in every concert ranting about kurt /grohl /grunge/ the old days
>>128061843he seems like a nice guy but he's clearly a moron. not untalented or malicious, just dumb, and thats ok.
>>128069740alice in chains?
>>128061843HAHAHAHA stop claiming a career that was never yoursStop projecting your lack of success in relation to Nirvana and Kurt's hard workWhy else would interviewers give a fuck about him? Houdini is overrated hipster poop sludge slopMetal for hipsters who still have a hard time pretending to like Metallica
>>128061907That's fine if they parted ways cause Buzzo is a real cunt to talk to
>>128073735Never meet your heroes
>>128070287Bleach is a much more superior version of what The Melvins thought they could doAt that point Nirvana was waaaaaaaaay ahead of the curb and they talked like actual humans
>>128065206Throw shit all you want but those arena shows paid for Kurt's gastritis medicine
>>128065050All I know is Kurt said something about Laxatives and I have really bad posture on In UteroSo the constipation thing makes sense
>>128075909Penny Royal tea must make the bowels move fast
>>128075913>penny royal tea an abortive>"get something off the chest" or let go of it>abortion as a metaphor>durr maybe it's the laxativeIf that's how you want to think about it, sure.But that makes you a moron in my eyes.Super glad the Melvins didn't get big.Can you imagine?
>>128065326>Cobain was no different. Same deal with the others who were talking about child sex rings and shitElaborate please?>ll. I just think that when these people have an assignment (often unwittingly), this serves as money-laundering for interests and contractual obligationsElaborate please?
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