>thing>japanese thing
>OMG LE MATH ROCK CHORDS ARE SO CLEAAANN
>>128086260Do normalvermin seriously think a Japanese chord means 7th or anything more than a triad?
>math rock
>>128086260Just say jazz chords. Maj7 chords aren’t a Japanese thing
>>128086359Math rock is gay, but mathcore is based
>>128086260dumbasses online be like>LE EPIC MATH ROCKand it's just midwest emo in 4/4 with an overplaying drummer
>>128086260Math Rock is BAYZED and I LOVE IT SO MUCHhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-YDhSU4OwI&list=PLeEMtUE622AzX1q3-LQZt-Horxsf9-U8z&index=3
Isn't the thing that makes Japanese music so distinct is their use of jazz chords? Not fucking math rock.
>>128086802>overplaying drummerI feel attacked.
>>128086918no diss bro I love an overplayer, but dummies confuse an active drummer with the band being math rock somehow
>>128086960Thanks, bro. I feel better now.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FTz9aVsBKbQ
>>128086260Do rockfags just not know how chords work? Also, these aren't even identical chord identities and aren't interchangeable in every context.
>>128087053This is purely antidotal but half the rock guitarists I’ve met don’t know anything about music theory and just play by ear .
>>128086892yes Japanese Math Rock is more jazzy
>>128086260me when i put some math rockBLAM BLAM BLaaaaaam blsfsahhafhashashha
>>128087148I just don't get how you can play music and yet be so fundamentally incurious that you don't ever learn how chords are constructed and function.
>>128087384can't remember who it was, but I saw a clip of an interview of some boomer guitarist say he never learned theory because he worried the "magic" of music-making might be lost.
>bro check out this math rock chord>it's a triad
why does math rock sound so fucking good?
>>128087444it's made by mathematicians (smart people)
>>128087448>mathematicans>smartnice try, no its not because of any of that and its not made by mathematicians thankfully. Its because its removing excess notes that repeat like for example 2 Cs , 2 Es etc it removes things that muddy your sound. Just sticks to fundamentals and good tuning as a result its easy to play but also has a fuck ton of depth and it sounds better the more guitars you add to it, 3 guitar math rock bands rock.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LMxtgSliWbY
>>128087481>Its because its removing excess notes that repeat like for example 2 Cs , 2 Es etc it removes things that muddy your soundthose mathematicians really are smart, huh
>>128087384They like twirling their hands and make twang twang sounds not sitting down writing symbols and doing math, it's perfectly understandable
>>128087490>doing mathyou make it sound so redditits just a basic sum, subtraction, multiplication, division bs you can do with a simple ass casio watch calculator or in your phone.Anyone can do it just remove the excess of repeated tunes, stick to whats simple and already sounds good on its own let the tuning do most of the hard carry and just add more guitar so you can do harmonies with.
>>128087148>>128087384Because it's the most pleb instrument. Low investment financially and technically to get it running. Learning violin or acoustic piano on the other hand, assuming family doesn't have one lying around, parents would have to spend more and would think of investing on a tutor as well.>t. pleb guitarist>>128087399This might change 20 years later on when the zoomer and alpha generation who have been raised with the internet are interviewed and look back to their youtube learning years. Lots of young technical monsters have been coming up, the real litmus test would be if they can play it live..
Its clickbait to get more views, we don't need to have a thread on it
>>128086275It's that barre patterns are always taught instead of chords that are arranged root to seven pitchwise. When I was first learning I didn't know why guitar music sounded so 'wrong' compared to chords played on keys until I learned that the intervals were stacked in odd ways or out of order to fit the hand. Anyway muh Japan is retarded but the spirit of teaching the difference is an important one if you're either retarded or have to cobble together instruction from youtube.
>>128086573>Just say jazz chordsYou're doing the same thing that guy is doing, just last centuries version.Reminder classical music did this all first
>>128087384i played guitar for a while and took lessons from a guy, but he never bothered to teach me anything about notes or theory, just technique, when i said i wanted to understand it all he thought it was weird and unnessecary, its just a metal/rock thing to play by ear. i got the impression that "music theory" is what you learn as a kid from rich parents who gets taught piano at age 5 with sheet music. you have to seek it out yourself otherwise and then it all seems redundant or convoluted, the information overload because of oversaturation and clickbait on the internet is also daunting.
>>128086275There's retards in the west that call anything more than a triad "jazz chords" so you can't criticize normies for calling them jap chords.>"b-b--but that's different..."No it's not.>>128088449I learned closed voicings when I was taught guitar. The other vocings are not wrong or worse. Learning how chords are constructed and about chord voicing teachs you all this and more.
>>128088819>it all seems redundant or convoluted>"The first chord in the C major scale is C major""Oh my god, this is so redundant, I'm not learning anything">The second chord in the C major scale is D minor"What? Why? This is so convoluted, I'm lost. This is for uber nerds, who could possibly learn this"The retards' mantra
>>128086275>>128091154>>128086892>>128086573>>128088794>>128086802That's just how associations develop. Most people hear this type of harmony when they listen to anime OPs and just associate it with Japan. Jazz music hasn't been in the zeitgeist for at least 2 generations and (sadly) most people these days don't really listen to classical music. If you want normies to unlearn this association, get off your ass and make some music yourself and hope it gets popular.
>>128086892Sometimes yes, a lot of japanese soul and pop uses rhythms and harmonies from jazz since the country used to be obsessed with big band and bebop>>128087190Only marginally, they're still playing 7ths in tonalities and rhythms divorced from jazz conventions 99% of the time like most math rock
>>128086275literally yes. boomers used to think 7th chords were inherently jazz, now zoomer weebs are just slightly changing the goalposts to fit their own taste>>128086573>just say jazz chordsonly say this if you want people to think you're an ignorant retard behind your back>>128086802actually good post kek
>>128091337>just be the next Miles Davis or Chopin and hope you make it broDon't you think you're asking a bit much?
>>128086883Your puberty hormones are showing.
>>128091675Would you settle for the next John Field or Sonny Clark?
>>128088819Playing by ear does not prevent you from understanding how chords are formed and basic voice leading.
