Why isn't shitting on pop music as popular or cool as it was a decade and a half ago?
>>128088039I think people call it poptimism. I'm sure there's a record label conspiracy behind it.
>>128088039it was never cooldon't forget:the media -- for some reason -- in the 1970's went all out attacking The Carpenterstheir crime?...being "squeaky clean". ffsWhat was "squeaky clean" code for ...?result: one of the best singers ever AND drummers ever, died via starvation.
>>128088039Everything is a pajeet problem, I'm sure of it.
>>128088116this except the schizo rambling about the carpenters
>>128088039It became associated with uncool edgy teens.
>>128088159Yeah, teens actually listen to their teachers and troon out these days.God forbid them being edgy and rebellious.
>>128088039because pop music itself isn't as popular as it was 15 years ago. In 2010, and especially in the decades prior, you couldn't avoid popular music easily. Even if you only listened to classic rock radio stations or talk radio, you would still hear top 40 music at many bars and restaurants, in contemporary TV programs, and then on pop radio stations when you were hanging out with people who had those stations on. It was everywhere. In 2010, even if you hated Justin Bieber, you still heard his music frequently and knew his top hits like "Baby". Today with streaming, satellite radio, and the internet in general, it's just much easier to avoid top 40 pop music. I haven't heard any songs from the new Taylor Swift album. I only know what Sabrina Carpenter and Chappell Roan sound like because I sought out their music to find out for myself. My friend just learned who Sabrina Carpenter was a few weeks ago. Pop music just isn't as forced as it was decades ago, and therefore people don't hate it as much
>>128088166Why the fuck are you attacking trans people out of nowhere???
>>128088039An "elitism" that rests on Death Grips and assorted Fantanocore cannot hold. What's the point of keeping a gate through which no one is seeking admission? Meanwhile, pop is certainly more tolerable today than it was 10-15 years ago, even if everything around it is massively annoying.
>>128088201Why not. It's all the same thing. Mass streetshitters, trannies, poptimism, shit vidya, capeshit movies, and many more issues everyone sees on every board. It's all part of one degraded culture.
>>128088252Ermm culture can only progress, like nowadays is pretty much the best time to be alive.
>>128088039Meanwhile, rap is the genre that can't be attacked, especially kendrick. AOTY for example, manipulates scores for rap albums, by allowing fake accounts that exist solely to rate them100 https://www.albumoftheyear.org/user/review-guy/ , and whenever the number of people giving 0-9 for tpab, approaches 200, they mysteriously start to climb down, while 100s continue to grow.
>>128088297Gotta fight racism somehow
>>128088039>disingenuous memeit would be more like grown adults trying to live their lives while having a video of annoying little boy shoved in their faces 24/7 and telling the video to fuck off
because modern society is extremely sensitive
>>128088273gr8 b8 m8
>>128088252Some of those things aren’t cultural though
after the mid 2000s pop music transitioned from stuff like dido and shakira to overproduced uninspired beats with extremely repetitive choruses and meaningless lyrics, they also started using autotune which was noticable in everything. when justin bieber came around, people had massive boyband fatigue, especially since it wasn't long since this guy was around https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lou_Pearlman a rich jew who created boybands and scammed them out of 100s of millions and was known to most likely have fucked all of them (literally) before JB people shat on these too. after justin bieber, people also shat on One Direction, and also shat on BTS (and still kpop) after that. since then, pop music is a dead genre that doesn't know what to do.
>>128088201>anon doesnt understand that public schools, i.e. the default option for education in america, has a rate of molestation and sexual abuse higher than the catholic church and a public prison put together>anon has not seen the studies linking gender dysphoria and mental illness to sexual abuse>anon outs himself as the exact kind of authority-trusting conformist the previous anon criticized>anon can be assumed to have not had and plans not to have children, because he remains in blissful ignorance of what this country does to children, instead of mentally preparing himself for what lies ahead
>>128088787The education system is fine, besides needing more resources. I think teachers do very well with while working with a tight budget.
>>128088116>critics used to hate pop for no reason>critics now suck pop's cock for no reasonsurely there's a middle ground
>>128088039Pop is still not cool top 50 billboards I literaleyy dont give a shit
>>128089493>posts pop singer
>>128089527rock
>>128088469You're implying the kid who drew this was sentient enough in 2011 to know that (which he wasn't LOL)
lots of fags pretend like they like girly pop music and are just comfortable saying it out loud its pretty crazy
>>128089541paramore is the most manufactured poppy poprock pop punk that ever popped
>>128089493stupid coomer
>>128088201he's obsessed and his brain constantly tries to make everything about trannies even when they're not relevant
>>128089712Maybe they want that tranny D, hence the obsession.
>>128088039Loser ass grown men always do this shit with the young, it’s not exclusive to any generation or Bieber. There’s a contingent of mean ass grumpy old faggots who feel the need to kick young people on the up and up, from telling zoomers and millennial men the state of the country is their fault, that they created bad times, to just making fun of Bieber.
>>128089751We're not grumpy its that these new gen kids fucking suck
>>128088039The biggest reason why pop songs got so much hate is because they were overplayed on the radio. This wasn't limited to pop either, it was even worse with rock garbage like Nickelback.Radio is now a totally irrelevant platform outside of sports/talk stations, so there's nothing left to fuel the annoyance and hate that used to exist.
>>128089788This just isn't the case when you have to work at TJmaxx
>>128089806I thought of that, but I'm pretty sure most of the retail and restaurant chains have switched to their own playlists. In which case, your beef would be with the corporate higher-ups for having shit taste rather than the labels and artists forcing their excessive airplay with payola like what happened on the radio.
>>128089856I still have to hear this popslop all day. I fucking hate Sabrina Carpenter now, like seethingly so.
>>128089556yeah the brand new threads have got to stop
>>128089557>manufacturedManufactured by who.Josh Farro wrote the song structure and Hayley wrote the Lyrics and they started touring at 15 with her dad driving. What is manufactured about it lmao. What some teens cannot get popular by becoming known in a grass roots way?www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4BYQgPM4Ns&ab_channel=Emerson
>>128088116Based critics, Carpenters were unlistenable dogshit and Karen was completely busted. You had to go and pick the ugliest waifu of all time
>>128088039BECAUSE ZOOMERS ARE PLEBS
>>128088735Beyonce was one of the factors that pushed poop music into this direction of overproduced saccarine shit'Crazy in love' was a turning point
The only place I have been lately with Pop on is CVS where I heard Sabrina Carpenter and some K-Slop. Every other place has generic 80's music or contemporary christian. I laughed at hearing Holy Diver in the supermarket over the summer. The bar I go to played goth and punk music. It's one of many reasons why I don't go to restaurants and normie bars.
>>128089771>We are not grumpy [says the grumpiest possible thing that he could have possibly said in response]
>>128090255this faggot got psyoped. the label wanted her solo because they wanted another avril. SHE got signed when she was 16 because of her looks. nothing grassroot about being signed at 16 before doing anything of substance.
Because women love pop music and we respect women <3
>Because women love pop music and we respect women <3
>>128088039Pop music used to be very explicitly obnoxious. One Time is an obnoxious song. Every Black Eyed Peas single is obnoxious. Lady Gaga and Katy Perry were pure torture.Sabrina Carpenter & Co are just extremely fucking boring. Their music is so by the numbers and bland that it doesn't annoy. It's just there. And yeah, in a lot of ways that's worse but it also doesn't command the same reactive anger. Even with Taylor Swift this shift is present. Her country slop was teeth grinding but 1989-onward is just mind numbing muzak.Even KPop, while awful is just stale and aesthetically absent. The stars look annoying as shit but then their music starts and it's just "meh..."
>>128088116the carpenters fucking sucked.
>>128088039Teenagers stopped being rebellious and fell into globohomo's mass hypnosisNotice how easier they fall for marketing schemes now such as digicams, labubus, vinyl records, etc.It'd also be rebellious and punk to be anti-trans as trannies are being pushed everywhere in america by big corpos, but that's not a /mu/ topic.
>>128091918>Notice how easier they fall for marketing schemes now such as digicams, labubus, vinyl records, etc.We are reaching levels of "nigga please" never thought possible.
>>128091918teenagers have fallen for marketing schemes ever since the concept of the teenager was invented>It'd also be rebellious and punk to be anti-transno it wouldn't, trannies are hated by nearly everyone. if anything they are the rebellious punks
What's with the Justin Bieber apologism? Baby was a fucking horrible song.
>>128088196>>128088469This is the overall point I was trying to make. Pop music in 2011 (whether Bieber or Katy Perry) was much more unavoidable than it is today. >>128089544>You're implying the kid who drew this was sentient enough in 2011 to know that (which he wasn't LOL)how do you know that?
>>128092024from normalfags it's because of diddy.from women it's because of "sexism"from /pol/tards it was because he's white.
>>128092053>how do you know that?He's lichrally (not figuratively) like 19, max
>>128092024biber is a horrible muciaisn but there is like this meta undercurrent of pol tards who are irony poisoned trying to be contrarian
>>128091959>trannies are hated by nearly everyoneYou cannot speak badly about trannies in public or else your life will be ruined, you will lose all prospects of any employment ever outside of nameless janitor in a rotting mcdonalds, and you will be shunned by all facets of the internet outside of small corners.Punk is somehow being labeled as agreeing with everything companies tell you to agree with, and everyone's going with it.
>>128091586Okay okay, I sound grumpy but I notice you aren't saying I'm wrong.
>>128091604She was mid when she was 16 she didn't get hot until they did that gay Twilight song.
>>128092088Dude it's not 2023 anymore. Wokeism is pretty much dying, get with the times unc.
>>128088116>>128091895Karen was a talented drummer and had a nice voice, but I've tried listening to The Carpeners and they are so sappy and boring. Superstar is cool tho.
>>128092057>>128092068Are the pol tards in the room with you right now?
>>128088201>>128089712where do you think we are? this is 4chan, just be glad you didn't get ACK.png
>>128092182Still should be a safe space for trans ppl
>>128092231Lmao dilate
>>128092247Actually I'm an ftm and my cock is probably bigger than yours so...
>>128092270doubt it but i cannot post it(its bigger than a monster can btw)also do you want to marry me? I dont mind women with big clits.
>>128092295Wtf no I'm not gay. I'm into women you fuckin faggot.
>>128092317me too which is why im down to date a body builder woman on testosterone i dont mind it some are hot and i like tomboysI will love you and kiss you everyday and we can go to the gym together I can tell you how to have proper form and time under tension and all that and we can raise a family together <3 (つ ͡ꈍ ͜ʖ̫ ͡ꈍ )
>>128092350You're posting cringe.
(you might think im memeing, but im dead serious about this btw)
>>128088039Millennials make everything cringe
>>128092367You dont want to be held and hugged and loved?the T raises your libido you know. (ꈍ ͜ʖ̫ ͡ꈍ )I'm legit good looking you would like me
>>128092391Bruh
>>128092135Nothing ideological ever dies
>>128092135
>>128088039Pop music makes people stupid whether they're against it or like it. The people who hated Justin Bieber fifteen years ago are as retarded as the people who liked brat. I like pop music but I'm a normal fucking human being who can enjoy things without being retarded about it, and then pop music I like is actually good anyway.
I blame the 2010s facebook and 9gag
>>128088039Early 2010's was that last shared music culture. Internet/streaming has separated everyone to the point that most people have no idea what music is popular outside their niche.
>>128096028It is funny how you have to make an effort to keep up with "mainstream" culture now.
>>128088787stop schizo posting you faggot. if you hate shit being woke, then call it woke without calling everything tranny, you fucking tranny
a terrible disease called poptimism scourged through the empty heads of an entire generation
>>128093716Good thing wokeness was never coherent enough to be an ideology, it was always just culture war discourse with political branding like the alt-right
It would be very funny if Justin Breaver died tho liek for the lulzLike he is driving under the influence one day and bang he becomes plastered shit on a wall. Kek.
>>128088039gen z herei actually did the born in le wrong gen thing when i was a teen for a biti was so exposed to angry millennial internet men in the early 2010s and still a bit throughout the decade that i've realized that's a horrible way to livei hate hearing people whine and complain about things 90% of the timei like antiwoke slop sometimes because its easy to listen to
>>128100986Oh god, have we reached the point gen z thinks they're oldfags now
As a poor non white american I have literally never had to deal with any of these popstar guys. I cannot relate to your suffering. You'll probably joke about blacks being "too low iq" to comprehend your "suffering" but this hypothetical low brow humor is easily defeated by you being miserable despite your abundance of wealth. Like bro just wear ear plugs or something I dunno fucking don't turn on the radio or date swifties and instead date normal people literally that easy. Fucking white people man.
>>128100986>i was so exposed to angry millennial internet men in the early 2010sWhere was this even happening? Everything was already overtaken by poptimism by that point
>>128101163>Everything was already overtaken by poptimism by that pointMaybe on /mu/. Poptimism only really took hold in the mainstream in mid-to late 2010s
>>128101175Not true on /mu/. Everything was retarded zoomer fantano-core then, the board became unusable very quickly between 2010-2012
>>128101188Zoomers weren't on this board in 2012
>>128088039politically incorrect times
>>128101193This board was one of the most underage populated boards outside of /b/. Zoomerdom started in 94-96
>>128101163youtube. where else?
>>128101136you dont get it, its more like:>music sounds gay>lets bully all his fans to suicide>lolthats it, it was so funny
>>128088039>Why isn't shitting on pop music as popular or cool as it was a decade and a half ago?Because the monoculture ended in 2020 and "pop music" as we knew it for decades pretty much went with it. You have alfies/zoomettes into Sabrina Carpenter and/or K-pop and millennial hags obsessing over Taylor Swift, but neither of these things have anywhere near the power or cultural capital pop music had even 7-8 years ago because of the death of monoculture.
>>128088469this
>>128101729good
>>128102235>goodAgreed. I get some of the soft nostalgia for the "before times" but I'm happy that guys my age are listening to Zappa and Floyd instead of Lil Uzi Vert or Drake.
